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Football at Four: Going Inside Eagles' Sirianni's Comments and Answers During his Press Conference · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Obviously a contentious day for Sirianni and this aj Brown
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: stuff as usual, not to mention Chayr Alexander, he did
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: announce that he is going to step away from the team.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get all that insight and more right now for
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  Speaker 1: today's football at four, as Jeff Boucher from the Inside
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  Speaker 1: the Birds podcast joins us now on the Sports Bash
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  Speaker 1: for today's football at four in Mosh. We appreciate it, man,
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  Speaker 1: And obviously an interesting day down at the Novacare Complex today.
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  Speaker 1: You know, a team seven and two, number one seed
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  Speaker 1: wins over Kansas City, Tampa Bay, Green Bay, the Rams.
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  Speaker 1: You would think everything's peachy keen. Sounded like Nick was
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  Speaker 1: getting a little snippy today. Did you get that feeling
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  Speaker 1: from Nick Sirianni?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I mean you would have to be
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  Speaker 3: you know, Yeah, of course. I texted Adam Kaplan today
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  Speaker 3: and I said, this was about as testy of a
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  Speaker 3: press conference as I can remember in a long time,
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  Speaker 3: maybe if ever.
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  Speaker 2: For Nick Sirianni.
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  Speaker 3: Because Nick generally handles the tough questions pretty well, and
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  Speaker 3: you know, and he started off doing that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and he anticipates the tough questions. He's going to get
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  Speaker 3: so he tries to answer him the best we can,
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  Speaker 3: and then he'll always couch that at the end, right
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  Speaker 3: with you know, when there's clear disagreement, he'll say, but
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  Speaker 3: obviously I'm the head coach and all I understand that
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  Speaker 3: all these decisions will reflect on me, and I accept that.
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  Speaker 3: But today he certainly got a little testy with the
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  Speaker 3: line of questioning. I was waiting for somebody yell objection
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  Speaker 3: your honor at some point, because it started to feel
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  Speaker 3: like it was getting that way.
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  Speaker 4: Well, he did ask at one point, is this a debate? Like?
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  Speaker 4: Are we supposed to debate? What's going on here?
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  Speaker 1: You know, it was a lot of it about that
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  Speaker 1: fourth and sixth call with I.
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  Speaker 4: Think it was Tim McManus asked a question.
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  Speaker 1: He said, well, a couple of players seem to indicate
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  Speaker 1: that Jalen and aj kind of went off on their own.
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  Speaker 4: And we've seen this happen before. In that Seattle game
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  Speaker 4: a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Nick fouled up with I knew exactly what the play was,
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  Speaker 1: and he said it twice with almost the same verbage.
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  Speaker 1: What almost makes you feel like that's me covering for
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  Speaker 1: my players?
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  Speaker 4: You take this? How you won.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean there's two ways to look at it.
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  Speaker 3: There's there's the covering for the player, and then there's
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  Speaker 3: also sort.
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  Speaker 2: Of the plausible.
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  Speaker 3: Answer that's a non answer meaning and I hope fans
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  Speaker 3: understand this.
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  Speaker 2: Like a player, a team, an offense does not.
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  Speaker 3: Go out to the field with just one play call ever, right,
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  Speaker 3: there's multiple play calls based on what you're seeing, whether
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  Speaker 3: it's man or zone, being down and distance, and then
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  Speaker 3: defense has changed right pre snap, So if you see
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  Speaker 3: a defense change, you can change.
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  Speaker 2: A play call to what you already have planned, or
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  Speaker 2: you can audible.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: So I believe Nick Sirianni when he says he knew
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  Speaker 3: what play was being run once they audibled into it, right.
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  Speaker 3: That doesn't mean he agreed with it though. No, the
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  Speaker 3: question is not did you know it? But did you
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  Speaker 3: agree with it? Did you want that play run when
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  Speaker 3: they checked into it? And that we will never know,
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  Speaker 3: And I doubt he would have answered it truthfully anyway.
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  Speaker 3: But Mike, to be fair, this happened. I mean, there's
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  Speaker 3: in every game quarterbacks check into different play calls.
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  Speaker 2: Some have more autonomy or autonomy.
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  Speaker 3: Than others, and Nick Sirianni does have a history, and
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  Speaker 3: so does Jalen Hurts on the offense of going for
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  Speaker 3: the juggular on third and long and fourth and long
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  Speaker 3: in those situations. And I know I heard Nick already
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  Speaker 3: reference it in a different interview when they went for
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  Speaker 3: it on fourth down on the opening I think it
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  Speaker 3: was the opening drive against Washington last year in the
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  Speaker 3: no maybe it was the second drive in the NFC
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  Speaker 3: Championship game. And then they hit aj Brown down the
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  Speaker 3: left side for a long touchdown. So I don't think
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  Speaker 3: it's as big of a conspiracy or a rogue operation
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  Speaker 3: as it might come off because of the timing and
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  Speaker 3: the way it went down. But I will say I'm
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  Speaker 3: sure that there's not always one hundred percent agreement whenever
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  Speaker 3: quarterbacks to checking in different plays with the quarterback and
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  Speaker 3: the head coach in that regard.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there was a lot here too, because I don't
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  Speaker 1: know this. Sirianni got baited into this one. You know, well,
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  Speaker 1: was it your decision? And he's cut off the question
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  Speaker 1: to go for it on fourth down? Yeah it was,
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  Speaker 1: And then McLean said no to throw the pass, so
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  Speaker 1: he almost answered something that he you know, almost didn't
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  Speaker 1: have to, but he then said yes, it's my decision
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  Speaker 1: to go for it, which we all figure anyway, but
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  Speaker 1: he's also suggesting it's my decision to throw the pass.
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  Speaker 1: The other part of it is, hey, you were on
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  Speaker 1: the sideline saying why, why why, And that's where he's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: if I have to answer every time I say something
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  Speaker 1: on the sideline, well, yeah, it's not like someone took
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  Speaker 1: an edited video and threw it into the live shot there.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: He clearly did not want to have to answer why
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  Speaker 3: his reaction to the play call didn't match their reaction
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  Speaker 3: to or their want to exercise that play call. But Mike,
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  Speaker 3: my favorite Internet or social media expression is when someone says,
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  Speaker 3: don't let this or that distract you from this or that. Right,
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  Speaker 3: that's a big, big Twitter or Facebook thing, And I
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  Speaker 3: will say, don't let this agreement slash disagreement on the
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  Speaker 3: play call distract you from the fact that Nick Sirianni
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  Speaker 3: had the opportunity to kick a field goal or punt there,
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  Speaker 3: and he is the one that put the offense on
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  Speaker 3: the field.
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  Speaker 4: Well, he did.
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  Speaker 1: He admitted that. He did say it was my decision
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  Speaker 1: to go for it. Now that'd being said the right place.
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  Speaker 1: Kicking the field goal I do agree with not kicking
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  Speaker 1: the field goal there, because if you missed the field goal,
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  Speaker 1: you're giving them more yardage as opposed to punting and
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  Speaker 1: taking away more yards from them.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, sure, I mean I think that there's a there's
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  Speaker 3: an argument for why you should go for it on
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  Speaker 3: fourth down there also, But and then I feel like
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  Speaker 3: they tried to marry well, Nick tried to marry the
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  Speaker 3: concept then of the questions about being going situation when
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  Speaker 3: he didn't get the boss since the first quarter, which
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  Speaker 3: is a to me, that's just a different question altogether.
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  Speaker 3: The question is why are you not getting Aj Brown
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  Speaker 3: more involved?
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  Speaker 1: Well, that was a question from Jeff McLean. I guess
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  Speaker 1: the greater issue is why in the first fifty nine
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  Speaker 1: minutes of the game is JJ Brown never targeted? Sirianni says,
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  Speaker 1: are we in a debate? McClain says, I think that's
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  Speaker 1: a fair question. That is a fair question, why are
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  Speaker 1: you not targeting AJ Brown?
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  Speaker 4: But three times I.
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  Speaker 3: Don't think that there was a single question asked to
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  Speaker 3: mix Sirianni today that was unfair.
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  Speaker 2: I really don't I know, there's always gonna be that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know how large the faction
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  Speaker 2: of the fan base is that, oh, these media guys
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  Speaker 2: are looking for drama.
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  Speaker 3: There were winning I mean, these are questions that we're
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  Speaker 3: getting from fans all the time to us. Okay, so
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  Speaker 3: when the reporters ask it, you can't all of a
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  Speaker 3: sudden act like mister tough guy on the keyboard and
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  Speaker 3: say the media and sports writers sports writers in this
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  Speaker 3: town are just agenda driven and all that.
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  Speaker 2: That I see.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, these are absolutely fair questions. Do you know how
• 7:04
  Speaker 3: much money is invested in this offense? Okay, Like, let's
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  Speaker 3: not wait for the Eagles to lose three games to
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  Speaker 3: then in retrospect say, oh, now the questions are fair. No,
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of money invested in this offense to
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  Speaker 3: at least function at a better level, right than you've
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  Speaker 3: seen both in the running game and in the passing
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  Speaker 3: game consistently throughout the year.
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  Speaker 2: I know that the Eagles have won.
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  Speaker 3: Ugly for over a year, now, Okay, I know that,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm not saying this. The offense needs to score
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  Speaker 3: thirty five points a game or it has to look
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  Speaker 3: a thousand times better. But there is clearly a difference
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  Speaker 3: in how this offense looks this year from a run
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  Speaker 3: game and a pass game perspective than it has when
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  Speaker 3: it's at its best.
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  Speaker 1: What is your take on then, like they are they're
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  Speaker 1: obviously very risk adverse and yes, we had an interesting
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  Speaker 1: conversation about this earlier. Is okay, do we overvalue the
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  Speaker 1: talent on this team?
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  Speaker 2: Do we overvalue the talent?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm so that's a good question, no question. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's a fair question. What is this debate?
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  Speaker 2: Mike?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I do what real quick? So he gets asked
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  Speaker 1: the question. He says, what is this a debate? And
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  Speaker 1: then McClain says, I think it's a fair question, and
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  Speaker 1: then misteriality says, Okay, what's the question.
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  Speaker 2: It's almost like, I don't think he actually listens to
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  Speaker 2: Jeff's question.
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  Speaker 3: I think I think he thought Jeff was following up
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  Speaker 3: with another fourth down play call question when Jeff was
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  Speaker 3: actually moving on to well, then why doesn't Aj Brown
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  Speaker 3: get the ball?
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  Speaker 2: Earlier question? And then he heard the question, it was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: well anyway, uh.
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  Speaker 3: But moving on, like, I don't think we over I
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  Speaker 3: mean it was it would have been impossible to pretict
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  Speaker 3: going into the year that the offensive line was not
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  Speaker 3: going to be at the level it was last year.
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  Speaker 3: There is some advanced analytics that show. We did a show, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, we do inside the Data on Inside the Birds
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  Speaker 2: with Sam fink Coole. He's really good with.
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  Speaker 3: Analytics, and we had done a chart after week four
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  Speaker 3: showing aj Brown's separation yards per target and each year
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  Speaker 3: since twenty twenty two they have gone down. Now, he's
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  Speaker 3: never been a huge separator to begin with, He's not
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  Speaker 3: a guy based on speed. I mean, he's contested catch, physical,
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  Speaker 3: strong receiver. But he had dropped from about two point
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  Speaker 3: seven to one point seven through the first four weeks,
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  Speaker 3: which probably hasn't gotten any better since then, which is
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  Speaker 3: a full yard of separation per target drop, which is
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  Speaker 3: pretty significant.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 2: I always say these kind of this data needs context.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, when you're you're the routes you're running can
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  Speaker 3: influence whether you're.
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  Speaker 2: Getting separation or not as well.
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  Speaker 3: But even with contact, I think when you're a full
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  Speaker 3: yard of separation down from your best days that there's
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  Speaker 3: probably something to that. And I think it's fair to
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  Speaker 3: question is he still an elite receiver? I mean, right now,
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  Speaker 3: Devonte Smith is the guy who gets the ball in
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  Speaker 3: high leverage situations. So you know, you factoring the off
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  Speaker 3: of the line actor in the AJ Brown and you
• 10:03
  Speaker 3: know again is Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts is a specific
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  Speaker 3: kind of quarterback who flourishes in several areas of the game,
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  Speaker 3: but also doesn't in other areas of the game, using
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  Speaker 3: the entire field, every blade of grass.
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  Speaker 2: So you put it all together.
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  Speaker 1: Well, And that's why I asked the question of like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, do we overvalue the talent because the coaches
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  Speaker 1: are obviously saying we don't have the talent to be
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: this high flying offense.
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  Speaker 2: But they've never been a high flying offense since.
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  Speaker 1: Because there's a constant player on the team. They have
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  Speaker 1: five six different offensive quarters. You think all of them
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: have a lousy passing game.
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  Speaker 3: That's my point when everybody wants to back the bus
• 10:45
  Speaker 3: over Kevin Petullo, I didn't interview today with someone who clearly,
• 10:50
  Speaker 3: you know, feels like Petullo doing a terrible job. And
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: I say, what do you think the difference between Kellen
• 10:56
  Speaker 3: Moore's offense and Brian.
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  Speaker 2: Johnson's offense was what do you think is the biggest difference?
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  Speaker 2: You answer that the biggest Yeah, what is.
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  Speaker 4: The difference between they ran the ball with high level
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  Speaker 4: of success.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, Brian Johnson does.
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  Speaker 1: The Shane Stikeen offense was a little better in the
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  Speaker 1: passing game, but wasn't the great it was.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was better, you're right, yeah, but then they
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  Speaker 3: were also they were that was in an era of RPOs,
• 11:23
  Speaker 3: and they cracked down on the illegal man downfield. And
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: now you're seeing a lot more different coverages on the
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: back end of disguise what you're doing. I mean not
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  Speaker 3: even Shane Stikeen himself isn't running that kind of offense
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  Speaker 3: as much as he did in twenty.
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  Speaker 1: Two, right, And and the big thing, like even back
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  Speaker 1: then though, like the passing game, wasn't this like wow,
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: look at this thing. I mean they ran the ball
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  Speaker 1: with that team. They had Miles Sanders, you know, it
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  Speaker 1: was like a twelve hundred yard back and was it
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  Speaker 1: was fantastic that year. That RPO was as good as
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: it's ever you know, as you said, they kind of
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  Speaker 1: went away after that. They never quite ran it near that.
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  Speaker 1: But any passing attack, Pope at any point, they just
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: haven't had a good passing attack in the AJ Brown
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  Speaker 1: Devonte Smith era. They've never had a passing attack where
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: it's like, look, at this man, Justin Jefferson and Jordan
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: Addison and Jamar Chase and like those teams are throwing
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  Speaker 1: it all over the yard. The Eagles have never had
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  Speaker 1: that level of passing game.
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  Speaker 2: No, and that's never been that way. And they listen,
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  Speaker 2: they've won game.
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  Speaker 3: So the money that they're paying for all these guys,
• 12:24
  Speaker 3: including AJ Brown and now Sakuon Barkley right to not
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  Speaker 3: perform to their normal statistics has been okay because they've
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: been able to cover it up and they're still doing it.
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: But I do feel like even at seven and two,
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: you're looking for like last year, they were sporadic at times,
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: but it did seem like the pass offense got a
• 12:45
  Speaker 3: little better as there was more comfort as the season
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: went on. The Steelers game really good and then into
• 12:50
  Speaker 3: the playoffs that got obviously hot against the Commanders and
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: against the Chiefs and the Super Bowl, but they also
• 12:56
  Speaker 3: had the number one defense that helped out. I think
• 12:59
  Speaker 3: it's fair to under can they continue to win this way?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the offense is regressing. After this great running
• 13:06
  Speaker 3: game against the Giants, it was not good against a
• 13:08
  Speaker 3: very good Packers defense, and so they got to find
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  Speaker 3: some answers. Yeah, but I say this tongue in cheek, right,
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  Speaker 3: in twenty years, Honestly, I say this tongue in cheek.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to make people mad.
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  Speaker 3: But in twenty years I'm gonna write the look back
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  Speaker 3: book on how the Eagles took the league by storm
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  Speaker 3: and won a Super Bowl, went to do maybe more
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  Speaker 3: because they were cheating and didn't even realize it. Because
• 13:29
  Speaker 3: when they were running RPOs in twenty twenty two, they
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: had a legal men downfield all the time, and then
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: the NFL cracked down on it. And then of course,
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: you know, the ditch bush is gonna get banned, and
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: we're gonna look back on all the false starts and
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: all the neutral zone in front and all the times
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  Speaker 3: that they had a guy moving when they shouldn't have been,
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  Speaker 3: and I'll.
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  Speaker 2: Write this great book.
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: This is like twenty years from now, when the egos
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: are bad and fans wouldn't be mad at me.
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  Speaker 2: And and I'll make this point. You know, the only
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: reason they ever wont is because they cheated knowingly.
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: By the way, yeah, Jeff Boucher, A couple wore real
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: quick before we rock at it here, jyr Alexander abruptly
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: leaves the team seemingly is retiring, stepping away from football.
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: I guess just kind of what happens with the trade.
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  Speaker 1: They just lose the pick. That that not void, it.
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  Speaker 2: I imagine.
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  Speaker 3: So, I mean, I don't know how he is could
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  Speaker 3: at what he does, So it wouldn't it wouldn't surprise
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: me if maybe he had to call up the Ravens
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: and be like, yo, I told the whole public you
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: were honest with me. We had great, honest conversations about
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: Jaire Alexander and then the guy retires after a week.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, the Ravens don't have to do anything
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  Speaker 2: about it. But you know what did they give up?
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: They gave up like a sixth round pick and got
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: back a seventh round pick. It's not even yeah, it's
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: a pixel. We're talking about slots, right, not even a
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  Speaker 3: full I gave up something up. They literally just traded
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  Speaker 3: spots in the last rounds of the draft.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's not a big deal.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: Jacoreyan Bennett activated he did mention him by name today
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  Speaker 1: and that Bennett was a guy that they liked. It'll
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: be interested to see, you know, he did say that,
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: you know, I thought that you know he mentioned Ringo
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: played well the one game a door he played last game.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: That's gonna be kind of fluid here, I guess moving forward.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: But I will say this, this game to me feels
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: very much like the San Francisco game from a couple
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  Speaker 1: of years ago. Right, You've beaten everybody, and everybody's like
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: you're beating everybody, but you're just somehow finding ways to win.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: And that San Francisco team they felt they were better
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: than you, and they came in here and they rose
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: shambaued you and the season fell apart. The Lions feel
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: very similar that they could have beat you last year
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: and they have a chance on national TV to show everybody.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: Everyone keeps talking about them and you should be talking
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: about us.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I I you know, that's a good, good comparison,
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: And especially from the year before the way the Eagles
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: handled the forty nine ers, and the forty nine ers,
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: you know, lost.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: Their quarterback in the game on the first play.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: You know, the Lions probably feel like they never had
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: the chance because of all those injuries to go toe
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: to toe with the Eagles and losing to the command
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: and in the divisional round, and you're right, they probably
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: feel like they have something to prove against that team.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: Dan Campbell took over play calling.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: You saw a little bit of a difference in how
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: they were able to get Jamis and Williams more involved
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: yards after catch, and how they were geting Jamiir Gibbs
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: in the passing game involved. Now it came against the
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: Commanders defense. You can't put too much into it, but
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: they're a very good team. They judge injuries on defense,
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: but right now it's like the Eagles have a tough
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: time hitting a team where it hurts in the secondary
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: because they're not throwing the ball particularly well.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: And I would say this, people are like, well, twenty
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: twenty three, that team's defense stunk. And I do agree
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: that this defense is better. But my point is, you
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: can't assume your defense is gonna hold Detroit, Dallas, Chicago
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: all to seven points. You're gonna have to score. You know,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have to be able to get this offense going,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: and ten points isn't good enough. I get at Green
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Bay's got a pre solid defense, but you gotta score
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: more than ten points.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: I think I've I kind of felt like they were
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: gonna split these games. So they beat Green Bay and
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: now the pressure you know they got. You know, it's
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: a big game because Seattle and LA are.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Going at it.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: You know, it's one of those teams is gonna have
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: eight wins and be up there too, And they're both
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: hot and like every it just feels like those teams,
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: and I get it. I'm We're gonna keep coming back
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: to The Eagles never look like the hot team until
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: they have to be. But right now, the Rams, the
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: Seahawks are are on fire right and.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: They look good and doing it. But hey, guess what,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: maybe maybe they're hitting their stride. Now you haven't hit
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: your stride yet.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: You better hope that's what you have to hope.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: That's what you gotta A J Brown quote, drop me
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: if you have me on fantasy.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Did he just say that? Really?
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: Oh you didn't hear him on the twitch stream?
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: No? I heard everything else. I just didn't know that
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: was part of.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: It at the end. If you got me on fantasy,
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: drop me.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Well, he's not wrong. I was working enough to draft
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: DeVante Smith this year, So.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: There you go, all right. Jeff Bosher Football at four.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Check out the inside of the podcast. Read him over
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: at Philly Voice dot com and Football at four Always
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: here on the Sports Bast Live on ninety seven three ESPN.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: Thanks Jeff, you got it.