Latest / Large Nerdron Collider / Going to the Tonys with The Boys
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- 0:10Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large Nerdron Collider podcast, the
- 0:13Speaker 1: podcast that's all about kiheeky things happening in the world
- 0:16Speaker 1: around us and how very excited we are about them.
- 0:19Speaker 1: I'm Ariel Castin, and with me, as always is the
- 0:22Speaker 1: ageless and timeless every young Jonathan Strickland.
- 0:27Speaker 2: I do it by having an Okarina of time nice.
- 0:33Speaker 1: I just have the regular world boring okarinas Karna.
- 0:37Speaker 2: Okarina Karina Akarina, I think is actually more accurate. But
- 0:42Speaker 2: I use that because we have a story today about
- 0:46Speaker 2: Legend of Zelda, So that's for my fellow Legend of
- 0:50Speaker 2: Zelda fans. But We've got a lot more to get
- 0:52Speaker 2: through before we get to that story. And part of
- 0:56Speaker 2: it is that we chat about stuff, what we have
- 1:01Speaker 2: seen or done that's in the geek realm since the
- 1:04Speaker 2: last time we recorded.
- 1:06Speaker 1: Yeah, and I have no idea how I watched as
- 1:10Speaker 1: much as I've watched between last week and this week.
- 1:13Speaker 1: I really don't because I'm forever busy. But apparently I
- 1:20Speaker 1: finished The Brother's Son, which was delightful. I feel like
- 1:25Speaker 1: the series got better as it went on, and I'm
- 1:27Speaker 1: really sad that it didn't get picked up for a
- 1:28Speaker 1: second season. I know a whole bunch of people who
- 1:31Speaker 1: are watching it now, so I hope it might get
- 1:33Speaker 1: a resurgence sometime in the future. It's about one one
- 1:40Speaker 1: brother who's in the mafia and one who wants to
- 1:43Speaker 1: do improv in America, and Michelle Yo is their mom
- 1:49Speaker 1: and she's also in the mafia. And it's fun.
- 1:54Speaker 2: And a lot of a lot of yes, and I'm guessing.
- 1:57Speaker 1: Yeah, And it was delightful. It was funny, it was heartwarming.
- 2:05Speaker 1: There was a lot of really cool fight choreography, some
- 2:09Speaker 1: kind of violence, but overall very good. I also watched
- 2:13Speaker 1: American Fiction, which is a movie with Jeffrey Wright, Yes,
- 2:19Speaker 1: who is an author who writes these really good novels
- 2:26Speaker 1: but they aren't selling, maybe because they're too cerebral, and
- 2:29Speaker 1: so he gets convinced to write a novel from the
- 2:36Speaker 1: black perspective. But it's not his black perspective. It's kind
- 2:39Speaker 1: of like the a Bonyx Street Gang kind of perspective.
- 2:44Speaker 2: It's Yeah. When I saw the previews, it made me
- 2:49Speaker 2: think that they were kind of sending up the sort
- 2:53Speaker 2: of entertainment that frequently gets associated with Tyler Perry.
- 2:58Speaker 1: Yes, but it was a very good movie. It was
- 3:02Speaker 1: most of the movie was actually about his relationship with
- 3:05Speaker 1: his family. It was almost like the story the story
- 3:08Speaker 1: was a like a second a plot. It was more
- 3:11Speaker 1: important than a B plot. But it maybe wasn't the
- 3:13Speaker 1: thing that we spent the most time on. But I
- 3:17Speaker 1: really enjoyed it. It It was more drama than comedy,
- 3:21Speaker 1: but the comedic moments were beautiful. Yeah, it was a
- 3:25Speaker 1: really good movie.
- 3:26Speaker 2: Nice.
- 3:27Speaker 1: Yeah, and I had heard that, but it was it
- 3:33Speaker 1: was like I'd almost put it into like the like
- 3:38Speaker 1: cider House Rules kind of feel of a movie, like
- 3:45Speaker 1: like almost that more like its slice of life is
- 3:48Speaker 1: wrong because who lives with these Not the average Joe
- 3:51Speaker 1: lives with these circumstances. But that kind of more drama,
- 3:54Speaker 1: low paced sort of a movie, which is great because
- 3:59Speaker 1: I remember and Matt Damon was on Hot Ones. He said,
- 4:02Speaker 1: you can't really make those movies and be successful anymore,
- 4:04Speaker 1: and this one was so great. I also have started
- 4:08Speaker 1: the final season of Star Trek Discovery and the second
- 4:10Speaker 1: episode really brought me in and I'm super into it
- 4:14Speaker 1: and I'm all on board. I finished the second half
- 4:20Speaker 1: of Bridgerton, which was okay.
- 4:24Speaker 2: I knew the enthusiasm had to wear out at some point.
- 4:27Speaker 1: Yeah, it just I think Queen Charlotte and I'm not
- 4:31Speaker 1: going to spend long on this because I know I've
- 4:32Speaker 1: already talked about it on the show. Queen Charlotte did
- 4:34Speaker 1: such a good job of building relationship and compassion and
- 4:39Speaker 1: still having some steamy stuff in there that I feel
- 4:42Speaker 1: like this latest season and it's like everybody's not Everybody's
- 4:46Speaker 1: many people's favorite story is the Penelope Featherington Colin Bridgerton romance,
- 4:52Speaker 1: and they changed some things, and I just it didn't
- 4:55Speaker 1: play as well as I wanted it to. So, and
- 4:59Speaker 1: then I watched Tony's not as they aired but later.
- 5:05Speaker 2: Okay, and they were they were interesting. Any favorite moments
- 5:09Speaker 2: in the Tonies that stood out?
- 5:11Speaker 1: Yeah, the opening number didn't hit me as much as
- 5:15Speaker 1: I wanted it to. Although I loved the diversity in
- 5:18Speaker 1: dancing dancers that they used. It was lovely, and the
- 5:22Speaker 1: dance numbers were great, that it just wasn't like that
- 5:26Speaker 1: comedic kind of Tony's intro that I usually love. I
- 5:31Speaker 1: really liked the Outsider's performance, which surprised me. I've never
- 5:35Speaker 1: seen the movie, but I'm familiar. I just feel like
- 5:39Speaker 1: the montage of songs they did had some really cool
- 5:42Speaker 1: technical moments that were seamless, and I'm like, oh crap,
- 5:45Speaker 1: when did they have time to do that? Because they
- 5:49Speaker 1: transitioned from like a greaser song to the brawl infamous brawl,
- 5:56Speaker 1: I guess, and these actors getting pulled back and like
- 6:01Speaker 1: it was tussle and there was a lot of movement
- 6:03Speaker 1: and it wasn't like a wall of actors hiding an actor,
- 6:06Speaker 1: but as soon as the person popped out of the
- 6:08Speaker 1: fray of fight, they were covered in blood in strategic places.
- 6:11Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know how they found time to
- 6:14Speaker 1: do that and so accurately, and then it rained on
- 6:18Speaker 1: stage and so part of it was like a rain,
- 6:21Speaker 1: like a splashy water dance wow fight fight. So that
- 6:28Speaker 1: was cool. Suffs, which is a musical about the women's
- 6:33Speaker 1: suffragette movement. This is that's kind of still a thing,
- 6:39Speaker 1: but it's about women's suffragettes. The song actually really moved me,
- 6:44Speaker 1: and I again didn't expect to be like, oh, this
- 6:49Speaker 1: is the musical I want to see Tommy's the who.
- 6:55Speaker 1: I think it suffered from being on the Tony stage
- 6:58Speaker 1: as opposed to its normal stage with its normal sound
- 7:01Speaker 1: people because the sound mixing was bad. There was a
- 7:05Speaker 1: moment from Gutenberg that was kind of funny, even though
- 7:13Speaker 1: it's not a musical and.
- 7:15Speaker 2: Gutsburg is a musical, is it, Yeah, it's Gutenberg the
- 7:20Speaker 2: music the musical.
- 7:22Speaker 1: Okay, well they didn't sing, they just kind of presented,
- 7:25Speaker 1: but it was funny. I've not seen Gutenberg either when
- 7:29Speaker 1: it was in Atlanta or in Broadway. Broadway it's crazy expensive.
- 7:32Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, I wanted to go, but having had
- 7:37Speaker 2: seen it in Atlanta, I could not justify spending the
- 7:41Speaker 2: amount of money for the Broadway tickets to see a show,
- 7:46Speaker 2: like I already knew what the show was. I've already
- 7:48Speaker 2: seen the show. It was not with Broadway actors as
- 7:52Speaker 2: local Atlanta actors, but and I very much enjoyed it,
- 7:57Speaker 2: but I knew, Like I'm like, there's no spectacle to
- 8:00Speaker 2: this show. The spectacle is all dependent upon the performance
- 8:04Speaker 2: of the two leads. Like that is ninety nine percent
- 8:08Speaker 2: of the show falls on those two leads and then
- 8:10Speaker 2: the rest of it falls on the technical and music staff.
- 8:14Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, I can't justify spending three hundred
- 8:18Speaker 2: bucks a seat for a show. There's no like crazy
- 8:23Speaker 2: sets or costumes or anything. I mean, I love the show,
- 8:27Speaker 2: but I just couldn't do it. But yeah, it's a
- 8:30Speaker 2: I wish you could have seen it when it was
- 8:32Speaker 2: in Atlanta because you would have been laughing your butt
- 8:35Speaker 2: off the entire time. I bet.
- 8:39Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sad I didn't get to see it either place,
- 8:42Speaker 1: but I'm sure it'll make a resurgence somewhere. I watched.
- 8:47Speaker 1: Cabaret was the other I guess there were more. There
- 8:49Speaker 1: was like Hell's Kitchen and things like that, which was okay.
- 8:53Speaker 1: It was like an Ilisha Key's Jukebox Musical, which I
- 8:58Speaker 1: like her, and she made a guess parents, so that
- 9:00Speaker 1: was cool. Eddie Redmains performance is the MC. When I
- 9:07Speaker 1: first watched it, I'm like, what in the world is
- 9:09Speaker 1: he doing. He's got all these like weird ticks and
- 9:12Speaker 1: affectations to the way he's speaking. And then i watched
- 9:15Speaker 1: this whole TikTok movement on the MC and Cabaret and
- 9:18Speaker 1: kind of that character's journey, and I'm like, Okay, I'm
- 9:21Speaker 1: fine with him being in humans. So the more I
- 9:23Speaker 1: watch it, the more I'm like, Okay, this is a
- 9:26Speaker 1: little less weird, and it flows a little bit better,
- 9:28Speaker 1: but it's still very weird.
- 9:29Speaker 2: And Joel Gray, Joel Gray and Alan Cumming have very
- 9:33Speaker 2: different like their their individual takes on the MC are
- 9:37Speaker 2: very very different from each other, and I love both
- 9:39Speaker 2: of those. But I've never seen any of Eddie remnaines
- 9:42Speaker 2: it is.
- 9:43Speaker 1: You can catch his performance on YouTube. I would really
- 9:47Speaker 1: enjoy hearing your perspective on it. To me, it comes
- 9:50Speaker 1: across as like possessed Marionette.
- 9:55Speaker 2: Well, and I mean like when you look at the
- 9:59Speaker 2: al Andcomming one, the way his suspenders work is a
- 10:04Speaker 2: little unconventional. Let's say it made me think a little
- 10:09Speaker 2: bit of clockwork orange and anyway, it's like I get it,
- 10:16Speaker 2: like it's supposed to be. Well, especially once Alan Cummings
- 10:19Speaker 2: version came up ended up being far more sexualized and
- 10:26Speaker 2: sort of this CD and creepy kind of vibe going on,
- 10:31Speaker 2: whereas the original one. I mean, it's CD and creepy,
- 10:34Speaker 2: but it's not as overtly sexual. It's more I think
- 10:38Speaker 2: in every single version the MC is a little odd,
- 10:45Speaker 2: like at least odd, if not a little inhuman.
- 10:48Speaker 1: And if you listen to Joel Gray's interview about developing
- 10:53Speaker 1: that character, he like he talks about the realization that
- 10:59Speaker 1: as the pl goes on, the MC is becoming a
- 11:02Speaker 1: Nazi basically.
- 11:05Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Alan Cumming version has a very poignant
- 11:11Speaker 2: part about that, because of course the Nazis they didn't
- 11:17Speaker 2: just round up Jewish people, they also round up homosexuals
- 11:20Speaker 2: and and others, and so that ends up playing a
- 11:24Speaker 2: big part in the end of No spoilers, I guess,
- 11:28Speaker 2: but I.
- 11:29Speaker 1: Guess that's that's the that's the that's the musical, right.
- 11:32Speaker 2: Well, And here's the thing is that you know, here
- 11:34Speaker 2: in Atlanta there's just about to be a new mounting
- 11:38Speaker 2: of Cabaret at Actors Express, which I plan. I plan
- 11:43Speaker 2: to go see. It mounts in late July and runs
- 11:45Speaker 2: through early September.
- 11:47Speaker 1: Let me know when you do, because.
- 11:50Speaker 2: You want to go to the kit Cat Club with me.
- 11:51Speaker 1: I would like to go to the kit Cat Club.
- 11:53Speaker 1: I've never seen a live performance of it.
- 11:56Speaker 2: It is. It is a very I mean, it's a
- 11:59Speaker 2: rough show. It's a good show. I love Cabaret, but
- 12:03Speaker 2: it is it is an emotionally draining show. It's also
- 12:08Speaker 2: an odd one because you know, Sally Bowles, one of
- 12:12Speaker 2: the characters, one of the primary characters of the show, Like,
- 12:17Speaker 2: she's not supposed to be phenomenal, Like she's supposed to
- 12:21Speaker 2: be a good cabaret performer. But the whole idea is
- 12:23Speaker 2: she's not supposed to be like some sort of amazing star, right,
- 12:28Speaker 2: so playing her like actors are supposed to be well, Ideally,
- 12:33Speaker 2: in my mind, actors are supposed to play her as
- 12:37Speaker 2: good but not great, which is a tricky line to
- 12:41Speaker 2: walk as an actor. But luckily, like I've seen it
- 12:46Speaker 2: with actresses who were in that realm, and I think
- 12:50Speaker 2: partly one of the reasons was I saw I can't
- 12:53Speaker 2: remember which actress it was. She was. She was on
- 12:56Speaker 2: Broadway during Alan Cummings more recent as the MC, and
- 13:01Speaker 2: she was like the replacement. She was the person who
- 13:05Speaker 2: was coming in after the original actor had left. But
- 13:09Speaker 2: she was really nervous the night I saw her, and
- 13:14Speaker 2: it came and it came through in her performance. But
- 13:16Speaker 2: I was like, but that works for this character.
- 13:23Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And like Cabre is one of those shows that,
- 13:26Speaker 1: like the very front facing story of it is not
- 13:30Speaker 1: something that always appeals to me. Yeah, but knowing that
- 13:34Speaker 1: there is a deeper, more emotional story that does appeal
- 13:38Speaker 1: to me.
- 13:39Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, there's multiple things going on. You have like
- 13:41Speaker 2: this doomed romance that's playing out in front of you,
- 13:45Speaker 2: but you also have the encroaching threat of Nazi Germany
- 13:51Speaker 2: being like an overall thing that is having a greater
- 13:55Speaker 2: effect as the show goes on.
- 13:57Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I have nothing more to say
- 14:03Speaker 1: on Cabaret, but I do have one more thing to
- 14:05Speaker 1: say on the Tonys Sure, which is uh. I heard
- 14:10Speaker 1: there's a play called Stereophonic that's been on Broadway about
- 14:14Speaker 1: like the making of a band or the lives of
- 14:17Speaker 1: being in a band or something like that. I think
- 14:19Speaker 1: it is a play, but there is music in it.
- 14:22Speaker 1: The actors sing and play instruments. It wasn't supposed to
- 14:25Speaker 1: perform at the Broadways, and I this is what I've heard,
- 14:30Speaker 1: but so many people kind of raised heck about it,
- 14:34Speaker 1: saying they wanted Stereophonic to be one of the performers
- 14:36Speaker 1: at the broad at the Broadway at the Tony Awards
- 14:39Speaker 1: that they put them in.
- 14:41Speaker 2: Oh that's kind of interesting. Thereby by audience demand, popular demand, Yeah, yeah,
- 14:49Speaker 2: well that's cool. I mean that's a that's a good
- 14:52Speaker 2: selection of things what you have seen. I actually watched
- 14:56Speaker 2: stuff this week. It's unusual, like for some reason, I've
- 15:01Speaker 2: gotten into watching things again. So I watched the horror
- 15:04Speaker 2: movie Stop Motion, which we we talked about the trailer
- 15:07Speaker 2: for Stop Motion on this show Once upon a Time.
- 15:12Speaker 2: The premise of the of the film is that there's
- 15:17Speaker 2: this young woman who is essentially acting as the hands
- 15:21Speaker 2: for her mother, who is a stop motion artist, like
- 15:25Speaker 2: you know, stop motion photography to create stop motion animated films,
- 15:30Speaker 2: and her mother is working on this story that's very
- 15:34Speaker 2: important to her. But her mother has developed severe arthritis
- 15:39Speaker 2: in her hands and can't manipulate the puppets anymore. So
- 15:42Speaker 2: her daughter is doing it. Her adult daughter is doing
- 15:45Speaker 2: it for her, and the mother's very demanding. The mother
- 15:51Speaker 2: has a medical an incident, we'll say, and the young
- 15:59Speaker 2: woman and encounters a girl and is telling the girl
- 16:04Speaker 2: about the story that they're doing, and the girl's like,
- 16:06Speaker 2: that's boring. You should do a story about a girl
- 16:08Speaker 2: who's lost in the woods. And it becomes clear that
- 16:13Speaker 2: the young girl is a negative influence, we'll say, And
- 16:20Speaker 2: it gets increasingly surreal and dark as it goes on.
- 16:25Speaker 2: Now I felt that the movie was trying to be
- 16:29Speaker 2: something like hereditary. There goes Tible disagrees with me, but
- 16:33Speaker 2: I thought it was like Hereditary and that ultimately I
- 16:38Speaker 2: was I was not super entertained or interested by the
- 16:44Speaker 2: end of the movie. Like it was fine. It was
- 16:46Speaker 2: well done and well shot and well acted, but it
- 16:49Speaker 2: just didn't work for me as far as like a
- 16:52Speaker 2: horror movie that sticks with you, right, So that one
- 16:56Speaker 2: was a little bit of a disappointment for me, and
- 16:58Speaker 2: not saying it's a bad movie, it just didn't work
- 16:59Speaker 2: for me. Then I saw on Monday, I finally went
- 17:03Speaker 2: and saw Furiosa in the theater.
- 17:06Speaker 1: And.
- 17:08Speaker 2: I enjoyed the movie. It is a very different movie
- 17:12Speaker 2: from Fury Road. It's it's a movie that's divided into chapters,
- 17:16Speaker 2: and the chapters actually have title cards that come up
- 17:20Speaker 2: and sack Snyder. Yeah, not something you would expect from
- 17:24Speaker 2: George Miller, but yeah it You know, you get to
- 17:27Speaker 2: see a lot more world building, like they did a
- 17:31Speaker 2: lot of world building in Fury Road, and you see
- 17:34Speaker 2: more of that in this right, Like you get more
- 17:37Speaker 2: background on things like gas Town and Bullet Town. There
- 17:42Speaker 2: are a lot of characters who show up in Fury
- 17:45Speaker 2: Road who appear in Furiosa, many of whom are played
- 17:48Speaker 2: by different actors because some of those actors aren't with
- 17:51Speaker 2: us anymore. Between the ten years of when the movie.
- 17:54Speaker 1: Came out, it's been ten years.
- 17:56Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, cheesy, Yeah, it was ten years decade
- 18:02Speaker 2: decade between Fury Road and Furiosa.
- 18:04Speaker 1: Shut your face full, sorry because that would make for
- 18:08Speaker 1: bad podcasting.
- 18:09Speaker 2: But yeah, uh I thought I thought it was good.
- 18:16Speaker 2: I was entertained. I thought Anya Taylor Joy was was
- 18:20Speaker 2: good in it. I thought the young girl who played
- 18:23Speaker 2: young Furiosa was really good as well.
- 18:26Speaker 3: Uh.
- 18:27Speaker 2: I liked Chris Himsworth enough in it. But Becca, she
- 18:33Speaker 2: said that his performance took her out of the movie
- 18:36Speaker 2: because he wasn't well, because he was so he was
- 18:40Speaker 2: like a little too cartoony in her mind, like obviously,
- 18:45Speaker 2: characters in the Mad Max universe are outlandish, that's just
- 18:48Speaker 2: that's a that's a staple. But she felt that he
- 18:51Speaker 2: was sort of cartoon villainy and that it didn't come
- 18:56Speaker 2: across as the same sort of extreme villain that you
- 18:59Speaker 2: see in other or Mad Max movies. So so she
- 19:04Speaker 2: was not as as entertained as I was. But we
- 19:10Speaker 2: both we both liked the movie. I don't think either
- 19:12Speaker 2: of us loved it I think I think Fear he
- 19:15Speaker 2: wrote is a more entertaining film for me, But I
- 19:19Speaker 2: did still think it was a pretty interesting movie.
- 19:23Speaker 1: Did it Did it feel really really long? Because that's
- 19:27Speaker 1: some of the criticism I've heard about it.
- 19:29Speaker 2: I didn't think it felt really long. Uh, I mean,
- 19:35Speaker 2: like the beginning. The beginning maybe felt a little long
- 19:37Speaker 2: for me, but that was largely because I was like,
- 19:39Speaker 2: when is she going to end up with a Morton
- 19:42Speaker 2: Joe and becomes a driver? Like, how is that gonna happen?
- 19:47Speaker 2: Because there's certain things that happened in the movie where
- 19:49Speaker 2: you're like, well, wait a minute, if this happened, how
- 19:53Speaker 2: does she ever get to the point where she can
- 19:56Speaker 2: become a driver? Because it seems like this thing that's
- 20:00Speaker 2: happening right now would prevent that from ever being a possibility,
- 20:04Speaker 2: And the movie sort of answers that. I'm not fully
- 20:09Speaker 2: satisfied with the answers, but I thought that it was fine.
- 20:15Speaker 2: I didn't feel like it was too long.
- 20:18Speaker 1: Gotcha. I have another question about it. Yeah, I know
- 20:22Speaker 1: that they did some weird face merging with the child
- 20:26Speaker 1: actor and Anya Taylor Joy. Did that come across Uncanny Valley?
- 20:31Speaker 2: No, it didn't. It didn't come across Uncanny Valley in
- 20:34Speaker 2: the slightest like. Actually, Becca told me later, she's like, wow,
- 20:40Speaker 2: I just can't believe they got a child actor who
- 20:42Speaker 2: looks so much like Anya Taylor Joy. I'm like, well, interesting,
- 20:44Speaker 2: you should say that. And I told her and she's like, wow,
- 20:48Speaker 2: I had no idea, And yeah, it's it's pretty like
- 20:51Speaker 2: it's not like you're in a character creator in a
- 20:54Speaker 2: video game and you're suddenly moving the slider left and
- 20:57Speaker 2: right super hard, right, Like, it's not that sudden. They did.
- 21:01Speaker 2: They did a good job of making the changes be
- 21:03Speaker 2: gradual and subtle. Uh so, yeah, it uh it worked.
- 21:09Speaker 2: I never I didn't really knowing that it had happened.
- 21:12Speaker 2: It it wasn't It didn't stand out to me awesome.
- 21:15Speaker 2: And then finally I have watched, uh the as of
- 21:19Speaker 2: now four episodes of season four of The Boys. I
- 21:23Speaker 2: actually watched all four this week.
- 21:25Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I you know, we we actually talked last
- 21:32Speaker 3: night because Jonathan was helping me with an audition and
- 21:35Speaker 3: he gave me just a tiny sneak peek.
- 21:38Speaker 1: Of the four episodes. I was like, that's a lot
- 21:41Speaker 1: for an entire season.
- 21:45Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's we're not we're not We're not through
- 21:47Speaker 2: a season yet. Yeah, there's a lot going on. I mean,
- 21:52Speaker 2: part of it is a little frustrating because you know,
- 21:56Speaker 2: they've already announced that season five is going to be
- 21:58Speaker 2: the final season of The Boys, which I think is
- 22:01Speaker 2: I think that's fine. I think knowing when to end
- 22:03Speaker 2: is really important. Like, you don't want to just, you know,
- 22:08Speaker 2: spin the wheels just because it's something that people like,
- 22:12Speaker 2: and then gradually people like it less and less until
- 22:14Speaker 2: finally it's just it just sputters out. You don't want that.
- 22:17Speaker 2: You want to be able to tell a story. I'm
- 22:20Speaker 2: concerned because I feel like they could have concluded the
- 22:23Speaker 2: story this season. Honestly, I feel like I feel like
- 22:26Speaker 2: they probably could have done it in three seasons, but
- 22:28Speaker 2: like I feel like, definitely they could conclude it this season.
- 22:32Speaker 2: I already feel like this season has got some water
- 22:37Speaker 2: treading stuff going on, where it's like it's not that
- 22:40Speaker 2: the things that are happening aren't interesting, but a lot
- 22:45Speaker 2: of it feels like it's the same stuff happening over
- 22:49Speaker 2: and over, and I don't it's it's edging way too
- 22:55Speaker 2: close to misery porn for me. Like the reason why
- 22:58Speaker 2: I had to get out of watching Game of Thrones,
- 23:00Speaker 2: the reason why I never really got into Walking Dead.
- 23:03Speaker 2: There are a lot of the same things playing out
- 23:05Speaker 2: with the Boys. Ironically, there's a scene where Hughey talks
- 23:09Speaker 2: about how Starlight or how Annie, because she no longer
- 23:13Speaker 2: goes by Starlight, how she needs to go back to
- 23:16Speaker 2: being Starlight so that she can be a beacon of
- 23:18Speaker 2: hope because people really need hope. And I'm like, take
- 23:22Speaker 2: some notes the Boys, because you don't have any of
- 23:26Speaker 2: this in your show.
- 23:29Speaker 1: It's interesting because I was about to say that it's
- 23:35Speaker 1: getting to if it's getting towards Game of Throne and
- 23:38Speaker 1: Walking Dead territory. Yeah, yeah, I feel like I got
- 23:43Speaker 1: further along and Walking Dead or Game of Thrones, but
- 23:46Speaker 1: that's not actually true. I do think I quit after
- 23:48Speaker 1: two or three seasons of Walking Dead and Game of Thrones.
- 23:56Speaker 1: I watched the first couple of seasons and then I
- 23:58Speaker 1: watched like the last couple of seas since so I
- 24:01Speaker 1: took a big multi season break. But yeah, season three
- 24:06Speaker 1: of the Boys, I had to nope out. I like
- 24:09Speaker 1: the characters, and I like the story and the satire
- 24:12Speaker 1: and the commentary, but yeah, it's the misery porn shock
- 24:17Speaker 1: value stuff that they do detracts.
- 24:19Speaker 2: From it with Yeah, there's some definite shock value moments
- 24:24Speaker 2: where you're like, the only reason this is in the
- 24:28Speaker 2: show is because it's so shocking and it's going to
- 24:31Speaker 2: get people like talking about it or whatever. But it
- 24:35Speaker 2: doesn't add anything to the story, the narrative or the characters. Right, Like,
- 24:41Speaker 2: there's one scene in particular, I'll never ever be able
- 24:44Speaker 2: to unsee that again, has nothing to do with anything
- 24:50Speaker 2: of importance. It's just there and it lingers way too
- 24:54Speaker 2: long on it and I'm not going to say anything
- 24:56Speaker 2: because it's a family friendly podcast, but it was it's like, really,
- 25:01Speaker 2: do we I mean, you're not shocking me, You're just
- 25:04Speaker 2: disappointing me, is really what I came down to, because
- 25:07Speaker 2: I felt like it was a serious crutch.
- 25:10Speaker 1: Yeah, I I think it's really sad, I because I
- 25:17Speaker 1: like the actors too well.
- 25:19Speaker 2: The other thing that's kind of rough and I was
- 25:21Speaker 2: just for anyone who's thinking about watching it is one
- 25:25Speaker 2: of the things that's kind of being on Rinse and
- 25:27Speaker 2: Repeat this season is we're finding out about the past
- 25:35Speaker 2: of some of the heroes, like some of the actual
- 25:38Speaker 2: like the boys, some of the members of the Boys,
- 25:40Speaker 2: you're finding about some of their pasts that is showing
- 25:45Speaker 2: them to have been, at least at some point, really
- 25:48Speaker 2: not good people. And I'm like, I mean, I get
- 25:54Speaker 2: that they're trying to ground this and say, oh, well,
- 25:57Speaker 2: no one's going to be like a pal right, no
- 26:01Speaker 2: one's gonna be perfect and a shining beacon of goodness.
- 26:05Speaker 2: But do we really need to have scenes where the
- 26:10Speaker 2: message appears to be that the heroes of the Boys
- 26:13Speaker 2: are only maybe a half step away from how horrible
- 26:17Speaker 2: the Seven are? Because if so, this is Game of
- 26:20Speaker 2: Thrones where it's just let's put a bunch of really
- 26:23Speaker 2: terrible people in a jar, close the lid, and then
- 26:26Speaker 2: shake the jar so we can make them fight. Right, Like,
- 26:29Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't need that. That's not I need.
- 26:32Speaker 2: I need hope bring starlight in.
- 26:37Speaker 1: Well, it is interesting because it's it's definitely a storytelling problem,
- 26:42Speaker 1: not necessarily a subject matter problem.
- 26:45Speaker 2: Yeah, because like.
- 26:47Speaker 1: If you look at if you I think you could
- 26:50Speaker 1: get the same points across and like you said, give
- 26:53Speaker 1: someone hope. If you look at the difference between Walking
- 26:55Speaker 1: Dead the later seasons especially, and Left for Dead not left.
- 27:01Speaker 2: For Dead fear the walking Dead, No, is it.
- 27:05Speaker 1: Left for Dead? The one with the zombie mushroom people.
- 27:09Speaker 2: Oh, that's Last of Us?
- 27:11Speaker 1: Last of Us? Similar type shows, similar type story, and
- 27:17Speaker 1: Last of Us is also a very depressing, sad story.
- 27:21Speaker 1: But it leaves me. I don't feel gross leaving an episode. Yeah,
- 27:27Speaker 1: every once in a while I feel incredibly sad. There
- 27:30Speaker 1: was one episode that like I noped out of the
- 27:32Speaker 1: most of for Last of Us.
- 27:35Speaker 2: Was the one where if I use the phrase what's
- 27:38Speaker 2: eating you that applies.
- 27:39Speaker 1: To the Yes, yeah, because it just had subject matter
- 27:44Speaker 1: that I knew would make me feel gross. But the
- 27:45Speaker 1: beginning and the end of it, we're still quite good. Yeah,
- 27:48Speaker 1: because I just watched the beginning and the end. But yeah,
- 27:50Speaker 1: it's that's a horribly depressing story. I know it's only
- 27:53Speaker 1: going to get worse, and yet I feel okay coming
- 27:57Speaker 1: out of it. Same with Fallout, which has the all
- 28:00Speaker 1: these people are saying they're doing things for good, but
- 28:02Speaker 1: they're really just all the same people doing the same
- 28:05Speaker 1: problems that they're saying are wrong with the world. But
- 28:08Speaker 1: I walk out of it feeling like there's some hope,
- 28:12Speaker 1: feeling like.
- 28:13Speaker 2: Yeah, I think change could happen if I were to
- 28:16Speaker 2: compare The Boys to anything and say, I tend to
- 28:20Speaker 2: prefer the other version more. It would be Invincible, right
- 28:25Speaker 2: I Invincible still like crazy over the top violence to
- 28:30Speaker 2: the point where they really are indulging in shock value,
- 28:33Speaker 2: especially the end of the episode one of Invincible, Like
- 28:37Speaker 2: that is some of the most grotesque violence I've ever seen,
- 28:42Speaker 2: and that's definitely a part of it. But I feel
- 28:48Speaker 2: that the character, Like, there are enough characters who are
- 28:50Speaker 2: genuinely trying to do the right thing, and maybe sometimes
- 28:54Speaker 2: they do the wrong thing, but it's because they weren't
- 28:57Speaker 2: aware at the time that it was the wrong thing, right,
- 29:00Speaker 2: they were trying to do something good, Whereas in The Boys,
- 29:04Speaker 2: you almost feel like if anyone does the right thing,
- 29:06Speaker 2: it was purely by accident. It didn't matter.
- 29:08Speaker 1: Like, yeah, yeah, I agree with that. It is interesting because, yeah,
- 29:13Speaker 1: Invincible has some really rough moments, but I still find
- 29:19Speaker 1: it enjoyable.
- 29:20Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean, like, I think the season of
- 29:23Speaker 2: the Boys is going pretty well. I'm not saying it's perfect.
- 29:27Speaker 2: There's some characters, new characters that I think are really
- 29:30Speaker 2: intriguing and I'm curious to see where they go from here.
- 29:34Speaker 2: There's some characters I wish they would just kill off already,
- 29:36Speaker 2: but I know they won't because for whatever reason, they
- 29:40Speaker 2: resonate with the rest of the audience. But I'm just like,
- 29:42Speaker 2: for goodness sakes, just kill the Deep. Just kill the
- 29:46Speaker 2: Deep already, Please kill the Deep.
- 29:49Speaker 1: Yes.
- 29:50Speaker 2: Uh.
- 29:50Speaker 1: He upsets me on so many I felt bad for
- 29:52Speaker 1: him once twice in season one, maybe once in season two,
- 29:57Speaker 1: and the rest of the time I just despised him.
- 30:00Speaker 2: Yeah, I grossed me out. I know that he ends
- 30:04Speaker 2: up being like the comedy relief for a lot of episodes,
- 30:07Speaker 2: like the idea of being kind of this just total idiot.
- 30:10Speaker 2: I get it, but it does not mean that I
- 30:15Speaker 2: find him at all entertaining. I will say, however, if
- 30:18Speaker 2: the Deep had been killed before season four, we would
- 30:21Speaker 2: have missed out on Untilda Swinton's amazing performance in season four.
- 30:26Speaker 2: She's the octopus. No, yeah, no, yeah, I don't want to.
- 30:30Speaker 1: I don't want to. She's the octopus Deep, the octopus.
- 30:33Speaker 2: She talks, I don't. She's got a lot to say.
- 30:37Speaker 2: She has complaints about their lack of intimacy.
- 30:40Speaker 1: I need to not know about this.
- 30:43Speaker 2: It happens in multiple episodes. I can't wait for you
- 30:45Speaker 2: to see it.
- 30:46Speaker 1: I'm not going to. I get like, I've given my
- 30:51Speaker 1: husband permission to watch season in three and four without me,
- 30:54Speaker 1: and he watched part of season three and hasn't gone
- 30:56Speaker 1: back to it as far as I know. He's playing
- 30:58Speaker 1: Slave Atpire on Xbox right now. That's taking most of
- 31:00Speaker 1: his free time. But talking about the deep did remind
- 31:05Speaker 1: me of something else that I'm watching right now, Nautilus Live.
- 31:10Speaker 1: This is like my version of Jonathan's Stardew Valley.
- 31:14Speaker 2: Yeah, you sent me the link to this, Yeah.
- 31:18Speaker 1: So it's There are a few organizations that do this,
- 31:21Speaker 1: but Nautilus Live is an organization of marine biologists basically
- 31:24Speaker 1: that do deep sea exploration and science stuff and mapping
- 31:29Speaker 1: and uh. They do like basically spring to late fall
- 31:37Speaker 1: dives sometimes a little later, you know, depends on what
- 31:40Speaker 1: they're doing and I guess the weather of wherever they're
- 31:42Speaker 1: going and then they live stream it. So like today
- 31:47Speaker 1: because I put it on in the background because the
- 31:50Speaker 1: marine biologists talk. You can go on their website nautilists
- 31:53Speaker 1: Live dot com dot org, tryump see which one works,
- 31:58Speaker 1: and actually ask the marine by it'll tell you if
- 32:01Speaker 1: the marine biologists are active, and you can type out
- 32:04Speaker 1: questions to them and they'll answer them on the live feed,
- 32:07Speaker 1: which is really cool, so you can ask them about
- 32:09Speaker 1: what they're seeing or what they're doing. Today. They were
- 32:13Speaker 1: doing like the Mathra deep sea event.
- 32:20Speaker 2: Chimney thing wow, named after the Godzilla character they were.
- 32:25Speaker 1: I think they were at the Godzilla event yesterday or
- 32:27Speaker 1: the day before. It was another like Kaiju character, and
- 32:33Speaker 1: then doing like some maintenance on some under underwater stuff,
- 32:38Speaker 1: but like watching it. Sometimes they run across really cool species.
- 32:42Speaker 1: They ran across a whale that was playing for the
- 32:44Speaker 1: camera one time, just circling and like exploring and being
- 32:50Speaker 1: very curious about the the r o V that they
- 32:52Speaker 1: were dropping into the water. They came across a whale
- 32:55Speaker 1: graveyard that was covered in octopuses once and after watching
- 33:00Speaker 1: last night's Smarty Pants on dropout. I know that some
- 33:02Speaker 1: people don't like this kind of entertainment, but for me,
- 33:05Speaker 1: I find it incredibly relaxing. The sea mapping is less,
- 33:10Speaker 1: so then you're just kind of seeing a diagram of
- 33:12Speaker 1: what they're of them mapping out the seafloor. Yeah, and
- 33:16Speaker 1: it's usually too deep for people to dive.
- 33:18Speaker 2: They talked about yesterday.
- 33:19Speaker 1: There are a couple of sites where people can like
- 33:21Speaker 1: they are shallow enough that divers can go and work
- 33:24Speaker 1: maintenance this stuff, but it's usually these vehicles. But it's
- 33:29Speaker 1: just especially when they're exploring, it's just so wonderful. It's
- 33:33Speaker 1: so relaxing, it's so cool. It makes me feel like
- 33:36Speaker 1: a mermaid.
- 33:37Speaker 2: Well, the only other thing that's geeky that I do
- 33:40Speaker 2: I do want to mention is I was playing Wizardry,
- 33:45Speaker 2: which is so way back in the early eighties, there
- 33:49Speaker 2: was this dungeon crawler CRPG game called Wizardry that came
- 33:56Speaker 2: out for the Apple too, primarily, but it was available
- 33:59Speaker 2: on other platforms. And it's very simple, like you make
- 34:04Speaker 2: a team of up to six characters. The three in
- 34:07Speaker 2: the front are your typically your warriors, and your and
- 34:11Speaker 2: your damage sponges, and then you can have like a
- 34:14Speaker 2: thief and some magic users and stuff like clerics and
- 34:17Speaker 2: magic users that kind of thing. And it's just it's
- 34:21Speaker 2: a progenitor of a lot of other computer RPGs that
- 34:24Speaker 2: would follow it. Is they did a remake of Wizardry
- 34:29Speaker 2: not too long ago, Like it's a faithful recreation of
- 34:33Speaker 2: the original Wizardry. They did not there's a few little
- 34:37Speaker 2: tiny quality of life improvements that they've thrown in, but
- 34:40Speaker 2: for the most part, it's just an accurate the recreation
- 34:44Speaker 2: of the Apple two game. So I've been playing it
- 34:47Speaker 2: and cursing a lot because it is unforgiving. Your characters
- 34:53Speaker 2: will die multiple times, Like sometimes you'll be able to
- 34:56Speaker 2: get out with at least some of your party a lot,
- 35:00Speaker 2: and if you are, then you can potentially pay to
- 35:03Speaker 2: have characters resurrected if you happen to have enough gold,
- 35:07Speaker 2: or you have to recruit new characters. And then sometimes
- 35:11Speaker 2: it's a total party kill and you lose everybody and
- 35:14Speaker 2: you have to start with new characters.
- 35:17Speaker 1: I feel like you play the two extremes of video games.
- 35:20Speaker 1: You play these horribly like stressful games, and then you
- 35:23Speaker 1: play Stardew Valley.
- 35:24Speaker 2: Yeah, I need to get back into Starduw Valley like
- 35:27Speaker 2: I had reached. I had reached a point in my
- 35:29Speaker 2: last playthrough where I was kind of in the long
- 35:33Speaker 2: tail of the end game where I had done all
- 35:36Speaker 2: the major things that you need to do, Like I
- 35:38Speaker 2: had achieved all the major achievements throughout the game and
- 35:44Speaker 2: now you're just playing, but I had not done all
- 35:49Speaker 2: the things you need to do to hit one hundred
- 35:50Speaker 2: percent completion. I have never hit one hundred percent completion
- 35:54Speaker 2: in Stardoo ever, because it requires a ton of work,
- 35:58Speaker 2: and if you have like a list next to you
- 36:00Speaker 2: or whatever, you could presumably get it done in decent order,
- 36:05Speaker 2: it would still take you a few years of game
- 36:07Speaker 2: time to be able to do it. I think I'm
- 36:09Speaker 2: like five or six years into my game time and
- 36:12Speaker 2: I'm maybe halfway. And so like when you're at that point,
- 36:17Speaker 2: playing through a day of Stardo, feels like you accomplish
- 36:21Speaker 2: nothing because you got you gotten marginally closer to this
- 36:26Speaker 2: goal of one completion, and that can get frustrating to
- 36:30Speaker 2: the point where I'll put it down and won't go
- 36:32Speaker 2: back to it for ages.
- 36:34Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's why you have more time to watch things.
- 36:37Speaker 2: That's true. Actually, you're probably right. Like I haven't seen
- 36:42Speaker 2: any other games that have caught my attention where I
- 36:45Speaker 2: thought I need to dedicate time to this. And not
- 36:51Speaker 2: to say that there haven't been great games, because I mean,
- 36:53Speaker 2: like I played Hades too when it came out, and
- 36:55Speaker 2: that's still an early access, but like I'm not playing
- 36:59Speaker 2: anything that is pulling me hard to play it, like
- 37:04Speaker 2: when I was in Yakuza, like a dragon. Oh my gosh.
- 37:07Speaker 2: I was like, well, here's where my life has gone.
- 37:11Speaker 2: But I haven't done that for the last couple of weeks.
- 37:15Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I played Beat Saber. We finally got our
- 37:20Speaker 1: Xbox One working again. I think the kitten had just
- 37:24Speaker 1: gone back there and messed some stuff up or just
- 37:28Speaker 1: like everything else in my house, sometimes it works and
- 37:30Speaker 1: sometimes it doesn't, and you never know why it fixes itself,
- 37:32Speaker 1: but it does, so that's cool. Yeah, But so I
- 37:37Speaker 1: want to finish my run through of Andromeda, you know,
- 37:41Speaker 1: before Mass Effect five comes out in twenty years. But
- 37:47Speaker 1: I've only really been playing Beat Saber as far as
- 37:50Speaker 1: video game and like phone games. One of our mutual
- 37:54Speaker 1: friends just pulled me back into like a Telestra Telestrations
- 37:59Speaker 1: gate phone. Yeah, that's fun. So it takes a very little.
- 38:04Speaker 2: Time because that one of those ones where it's like
- 38:08Speaker 2: someone gets a prompt they have to draw something. The
- 38:11Speaker 2: next person has to guess what that what the drawing is,
- 38:14Speaker 2: Then the next person has to draw based on that.
- 38:16Speaker 2: Got it? Yep? I love it. I love those. I
- 38:19Speaker 2: love those, and I haven't played one in years, but man,
- 38:23Speaker 2: those can be a lot of fun as long as
- 38:25Speaker 2: you don't have someone who's purposefully trying to mess things up. Yeah.
- 38:30Speaker 1: So it is a little hard because it's on your phone,
- 38:31Speaker 1: and unless you buy other color packs or pen sizes,
- 38:34Speaker 1: you know, you're limited to.
- 38:36Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you if you've got fat fingers, you
- 38:39Speaker 2: might end up having a less than a stellar image.
- 38:43Speaker 1: Yeah. But for somethings like Jack Box, it's funnier when
- 38:46Speaker 1: you do it that way.
- 38:46Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's true. Well, we've got lots of stories
- 38:50Speaker 2: to actually get through. When we really chatted a lot
- 38:53Speaker 2: at the front of the end of the show, it's
- 38:55Speaker 2: forty minutes almost. Let's get let's get to some thirty
- 38:59Speaker 2: seconds or less, shall we? Sure?
- 39:02Speaker 1: Sure?
- 39:02Speaker 2: Okay, well then I think I get started. And so,
- 39:07Speaker 2: according to Hollywood reporter Mike Flanagan's the Exorcist film is
- 39:11Speaker 2: not part of a trilogy of films that Blumhouse and
- 39:13Speaker 2: Morgan Creek had counted on. That trilogy started with The
- 39:16Speaker 2: Exorcist Believer. But to say folks were not spinning their
- 39:20Speaker 2: heads in glee about that movie is putting it lightly.
- 39:23Speaker 2: It was a total bomb. So Flannagan's Exorcist picture is
- 39:27Speaker 2: independent of that entry and quote unquote charts a new
- 39:30Speaker 2: course for the series. It's due out on March thirteenth,
- 39:33Speaker 2: twenty twenty six.
- 39:36Speaker 1: Something else that's coming out but much sooner, is the
- 39:40Speaker 1: first trailer for Nosparatu, which we talked about a little
- 39:44Speaker 1: earlier in the show this year. How at Sinemacon they
- 39:48Speaker 1: showed the trailer and we haven't seen it yet. However,
- 39:50Speaker 1: now you can if you want to go see Bike Riders,
- 39:53Speaker 1: which is an Austin Butler movie about motorcycle gangs, that
- 39:57Speaker 1: will be where you can see this first trailer for now.
- 40:00Speaker 1: I hope it drops too. I'm really glad it's not
- 40:02Speaker 1: before Inside Out too, because it's not that kind of movie.
- 40:05Speaker 1: But hopefully it'll drop to TV and YouTube soon.
- 40:09Speaker 2: Okay, Well, we love mashups here on LLENC. So what
- 40:13Speaker 2: would happen if you mashed up the erotic thriller Fatal
- 40:16Speaker 2: Attraction with the Terminator, Well you might end up with Soulmate,
- 40:21Speaker 2: a movie that is set in the same universe as Megan.
- 40:24Speaker 2: In Soulmate, a man grieving the loss of his wife
- 40:27Speaker 2: turns to the cold embrace of a love bought imbued
- 40:30Speaker 2: with artificial intelligence, and then terrifying Hyjenks and Sue. Here's
- 40:34Speaker 2: hoping we at least get a viral TikTok dance out
- 40:37Speaker 2: of it.
- 40:40Speaker 1: That might make you feel happy or mad or sad.
- 40:43Speaker 1: But don't worry if you can't suss through those emotions
- 40:47Speaker 1: watching Inside Out or Inside Out too, you be able
- 40:52Speaker 1: to on the series that is coming to Disney Plus
- 40:56Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five. Apparently there's an Inside Out television
- 41:00Speaker 1: show that's going to start with Riley's weird dreams.
- 41:04Speaker 2: I'm now wondering if Ariel will be able to work
- 41:07Speaker 2: inside Out into all of her thirty seconds or less
- 41:10Speaker 2: stories this week. I don't know. Well. Warner Brothers Animation
- 41:13Speaker 2: is reportedly developing an animated series about the DC hero
- 41:17Speaker 2: Blue Beetle. That's the character who was featured in the
- 41:19Speaker 2: film Blue Beetle, you know, the one that nobody went
- 41:22Speaker 2: to see. So I guess Warner Brothers is striking while
- 41:25Speaker 2: the Iron is lukewarm and developing an animated series now.
- 41:29Speaker 2: To be fair, I think the character might do better
- 41:31Speaker 2: in an animated show than by anchoring his own live
- 41:34Speaker 2: action film. But I always thought he was more of
- 41:37Speaker 2: an ensemble superhero.
- 41:41Speaker 1: Yeah, very very sharp dressed. So those inside Out kids
- 41:49Speaker 1: sometimes say gets sick, which is not an emotion. I
- 41:52Speaker 1: have been told feeling sick or hungry or tired, according
- 41:56Speaker 1: to my acting coaches, is not an emotion. However, recently,
- 42:01Speaker 1: a bunch of players of Hell Divers Too were given
- 42:04Speaker 1: the option of either saving a bunch of sick kids
- 42:07Speaker 1: from a hospital in the game from a killer robots,
- 42:10Speaker 1: or earning a cool anti tank mine that they have
- 42:13Speaker 1: been asking for repeatedly and en mass. The players all
- 42:19Speaker 1: chose to well, I can't say all. The majority of
- 42:22Speaker 1: players chose to save the sick kids. And because of that,
- 42:27Speaker 1: the chief creative officer of the company that makes Hell
- 42:30Speaker 1: Divers has made a donation to save the children to
- 42:35Speaker 1: commemorate the in game generosity of the players, which is
- 42:38Speaker 1: really awesome.
- 42:39Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes you wonder if they had chosen the minds,
- 42:42Speaker 2: would that same developer had gone out and put minds
- 42:45Speaker 2: all over the place, because that's just evil.
- 42:49Speaker 1: I don't I hope not.
- 42:51Speaker 2: Well, here's my last one. Adult Swim has optioned the
- 42:54Speaker 2: late Anthony Bourdain's graphic novel series called Get Jiro Bordained,
- 42:59Speaker 2: best known as a chef as well as a travel
- 43:01Speaker 2: and food TV personality, created the graphic novels with Joel
- 43:05Speaker 2: Rose and artists Langdon Boss and Ale Garza. The series
- 43:09Speaker 2: features a combat ready sushi chef who lives in a
- 43:12Speaker 2: world where people will absolutely kill to get a table
- 43:15Speaker 2: at that new chic restaurant that just opened up. I'm intrigued.
- 43:20Speaker 1: Yeah, that seems up my alley too.
- 43:23Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like, uh like John Wick meets
- 43:26Speaker 2: the Menu.
- 43:28Speaker 1: Yeah, I you know, Delicious in Dungeon is one of
- 43:31Speaker 1: those shows that I need to watch soon.
- 43:33Speaker 2: I yeah, I keep hearing about that and I never
- 43:36Speaker 2: did check it out, so I should do that too.
- 43:38Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to creep me out
- 43:40Speaker 1: too much. I play D and D and a lot
- 43:41Speaker 1: of them. We all play monstrous races in my game almost.
- 43:44Speaker 2: So oh weird.
- 43:46Speaker 1: So it's well, well, not accepted. So we have a
- 43:50Speaker 1: warfwged to Changeling. Uh Dragonborn. Uh well, Dragonborn's accepted a tiefling.
- 43:57Speaker 1: They are more nowadays, but you're kind of like but
- 44:00Speaker 1: they're they're more like the.
- 44:02Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, I thought you meant like every single
- 44:06Speaker 2: person was playing uh Cobald or right, Yeah, like a
- 44:10Speaker 2: monster that that typically you know, like it's only in
- 44:13Speaker 2: homebrew games where you would typically see this as a
- 44:15Speaker 2: player character.
- 44:16Speaker 1: I mean, our game is very homebrew. The most normal
- 44:19Speaker 1: player we have is is a Callishtar.
- 44:23Speaker 2: I saw a YouTube video of a group doing like
- 44:28Speaker 2: a one shot for a live audience. It was a
- 44:31Speaker 2: you know, it's a group that actually mostly they do
- 44:34Speaker 2: Xbox games, but they also do D and D and
- 44:38Speaker 2: they did a performance in front of an audience that
- 44:41Speaker 2: was one shot where it was called oops, all cobolds
- 44:44Speaker 2: and so yeah, they were each person was playing a
- 44:46Speaker 2: cobold character. And I was like, oh, that's that's cute,
- 44:49Speaker 2: that's clever, but but famous, famous Jonathan Choice. I started
- 44:56Speaker 2: the video, watched a little bit, and turned it off
- 44:58Speaker 2: before any actual play had begun.
- 45:02Speaker 1: You need to skip past that part and directly to
- 45:05Speaker 1: the game.
- 45:06Speaker 2: Yeah, or I need to just wait until someone has
- 45:08Speaker 2: made like a best of clips kind of thing and
- 45:11Speaker 2: then I can just watch that. Well, speaking of best
- 45:15Speaker 2: of clips, so we had, you know, obviously, we had
- 45:19Speaker 2: like the Summer Games Fest, we had the PC Games Fest,
- 45:22Speaker 2: We had Ubisoft showing off stuff. Recently, now Nintendo has
- 45:26Speaker 2: had their Nintendo Direct like that was that happened this
- 45:29Speaker 2: past week, and there was a lot of stuff shown
- 45:33Speaker 2: off and one thing we knew was not going to happen,
- 45:38Speaker 2: and sure enough it did not happen. But it's okay
- 45:40Speaker 2: because we knew it wasn't going to happen. They did
- 45:42Speaker 2: not announce the next console, so they've said that is
- 45:46Speaker 2: in development, but they had already said they would not
- 45:49Speaker 2: be announcing it at this particular event. They stay true
- 45:52Speaker 2: to their word. But we did get to see some
- 45:54Speaker 2: stuff like Metroid Prime for Beyond. From what I understand,
- 46:01Speaker 2: a lot of fans just felt like that was just
- 46:03Speaker 2: it was more Metroid Prime, which they're happy about, but
- 46:06Speaker 2: it wasn't like transformative and give.
- 46:10Speaker 1: Me slight like Mass Effect vibes slight.
- 46:15Speaker 2: We also got a Mario and Luigi Brothership game that
- 46:19Speaker 2: was shown off that looks very cute. There was, you know,
- 46:25Speaker 2: several games like a Donkey Kong Country Returns was was
- 46:29Speaker 2: shown off. But I think the thing that most people
- 46:31Speaker 2: were actually excited about was the Legend of Zelda game. See.
- 46:37Speaker 1: I was wondering if you'd be most excited about that
- 46:39Speaker 1: or most excited about the Cozy Hobbit game.
- 46:44Speaker 2: I mean, the Cozy Hobbit game does probably have like
- 46:47Speaker 2: some Starduo Valley energy running through it too, right, like or.
- 46:51Speaker 1: The cozy Hello Kitty game.
- 46:53Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not going to turn my nose up
- 46:55Speaker 2: at Hello Kitty. But but no, I think, well, if
- 47:00Speaker 2: I'm being brutally honest, none of these really caught me.
- 47:03Speaker 2: But I'm I haven't been like a Nintendo console fan
- 47:08Speaker 2: for a few generations now, right like the last generation.
- 47:13Speaker 2: I personally, well, no, I do have a switch, but
- 47:15Speaker 2: I've never played it. I've opened it, but I've literally
- 47:19Speaker 2: never played my switch. I do have one, but the
- 47:23Speaker 2: last console Nintendo console I actually played was an old
- 47:26Speaker 2: game cube, and before that would be the N sixty four,
- 47:29Speaker 2: and those were like my Nintendo consoles, those two because
- 47:34Speaker 2: I was never an NES or S and S owner.
- 47:37Speaker 2: So the N sixty four in the in the game
- 47:39Speaker 2: cube where the two I played the most, and honestly,
- 47:42Speaker 2: the one I played the most was in sixty four.
- 47:46Speaker 2: So none of these really grabbed me. But that's that's
- 47:49Speaker 2: not because the games don't look good. It's because I
- 47:52Speaker 2: just they just Nintendo games don't really appeal to me
- 47:55Speaker 2: very much.
- 47:57Speaker 1: Yeah, I there are games that I have wanted to
- 48:01Speaker 1: play on the switch, like I guess I've played Cuphead
- 48:06Speaker 1: and Paper Mario, but I think either on somebody else's
- 48:10Speaker 1: console or on a different platform if they were available.
- 48:14Speaker 1: But like the Zelda games I wish I could have played,
- 48:18Speaker 1: and maybe, like Smash or Mario.
- 48:23Speaker 2: Kart, Mario Party can be fun. Although if you're like me,
- 48:29Speaker 2: Mario Party was designed to drive you to the brink
- 48:32Speaker 2: of homicide because it's one of those games where you
- 48:35Speaker 2: can be like on top of your game and playing
- 48:38Speaker 2: the best you've ever played, and then the random generation
- 48:42Speaker 2: stuff at the end will totally screw you over.
- 48:45Speaker 1: I mean that's like half of the board games that
- 48:47Speaker 1: I played too, So.
- 48:49Speaker 2: Yeah, that's if you were if you're hardwired to believe
- 48:53Speaker 2: in meritocracy, and then and then random events screw you
- 48:57Speaker 2: over and it drives you insane that Mario Party is
- 49:00Speaker 2: not the game for you. But yeah, the legend of
- 49:03Speaker 2: Zelda Echoes of Wisdom is interesting because it does something
- 49:07Speaker 2: that people have at least some Zelda fans have been
- 49:10Speaker 2: asking for for a long time. You do not play
- 49:12Speaker 2: as Link, No, you play as Zelda. Yeah, you have
- 49:17Speaker 2: to rescue Link, which you.
- 49:20Speaker 1: Know, if you're not a video game person, you might
- 49:22Speaker 1: go many years of your life thinking Zelda is the main.
- 49:25Speaker 2: Character of Legend of Zelda, because they're all called Legend
- 49:27Speaker 2: of Zelda.
- 49:29Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but Zelda is the Princess Peach but more badass.
- 49:34Speaker 2: Yeah. Often she is a figure that you're supposed to rescue.
- 49:39Speaker 2: Not always. Sometimes she's like the benevolent ruler who is
- 49:44Speaker 2: on your side. But often she's the mcguffin. She's the
- 49:51Speaker 2: thing you're after to rescue from the villain. But this
- 49:54Speaker 2: case she's the hero, which I think is kind of cool.
- 49:56Speaker 2: The art style is extremely cutesy.
- 50:02Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I I feel like everything in Nintendo's cutesy
- 50:12Speaker 1: right now, except for metroids. So I don't I don't.
- 50:17Speaker 2: Know there's it looks like I can't remember what I
- 50:22Speaker 2: don't remember what they're for. You might remember Ariel because
- 50:24Speaker 2: you worked in like young child education and childcare areas.
- 50:29Speaker 2: Do you remember those toys? It's like pre Lego, but
- 50:33Speaker 2: they're the little like the Fisher Price characters, the really
- 50:36Speaker 2: simple well is it duple? I'm just thinking about the
- 50:38Speaker 2: actual little figures that they look like. You know, they
- 50:42Speaker 2: don't have any arms or legs or anything. They're just
- 50:44Speaker 2: kind of sort of cylindrical in shape, but they're like
- 50:49Speaker 2: little Fisher Price characters. That's what the art styles making
- 50:52Speaker 2: me think of. Are those little wooden Fisher Price toys?
- 51:00Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Now I'm trying to figure out what they're called.
- 51:02Speaker 2: Fisher Price little people, little people, Yeah, Fisher Price little people.
- 51:07Speaker 2: If you do a Google search for that, it'll pull
- 51:10Speaker 2: them right up and you'll see what I mean, and
- 51:12Speaker 2: it'll be kind of insulting. But that's sort of how
- 51:14Speaker 2: I feel the legend of Zelda Echoes of Wisdom looks
- 51:17Speaker 2: like to me.
- 51:18Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's also interesting because you in past games
- 51:21Speaker 1: you can have played as Zelda, but as her alter
- 51:25Speaker 1: ego hic correct.
- 51:26Speaker 2: Yes, where she's like the I don't know if you
- 51:30Speaker 2: could play as maybe in one of the like Smash
- 51:33Speaker 2: Brothers games or whatever, but yeah, there might be a
- 51:36Speaker 2: game where you act as that character. But yeah, it's
- 51:38Speaker 2: kind of like her cloaked mysterious figure, kind of like
- 51:42Speaker 2: how Aragorn is Strider at the beginning of Lord of
- 51:45Speaker 2: the Rings.
- 51:46Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, but they do have some cool mechanics.
- 51:50Speaker 1: Like you, it's Echoes of Wisdom, so you pick up
- 51:53Speaker 1: echoes of different things and you can use them later
- 51:57Speaker 1: without having to carry the things. So it says every
- 52:00Speaker 1: encumbrance system.
- 52:02Speaker 2: Of Yeah, apparently the deal is that if you encounter
- 52:05Speaker 2: an object in the world, then you can have the
- 52:08Speaker 2: ability to duplicate or replicate rather that object later on.
- 52:13Speaker 2: And so I've heard some discussion about how is this
- 52:17Speaker 2: game even going to have any game to it? Or
- 52:19Speaker 2: are you going to be able to break everything just
- 52:20Speaker 2: by replicating beds so that you can like cross a
- 52:24Speaker 2: river of lava or whatever.
- 52:27Speaker 1: I wonder if it really is everything in the game,
- 52:30Speaker 1: because I can't imagine that selection menu.
- 52:33Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, how do you navigate that? That would be ridiculous.
- 52:36Speaker 1: Uh.
- 52:37Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm curious to hear more about it. I probably,
- 52:41Speaker 2: like I said, I haven't I mean, I haven't turned
- 52:43Speaker 2: my switch on yet, so I don't know this is
- 52:45Speaker 2: going to be the one that changes it. But yeah,
- 52:49Speaker 2: so I think Nintendo fans were largely I think pleased,
- 52:56Speaker 2: but not delighted. But then again, I don't think it
- 52:59Speaker 2: was a surprise either, because everyone is aware that the
- 53:03Speaker 2: switch is at the toward the end of its lifespan.
- 53:06Speaker 2: Like Nintendo always sell supports its platforms beyond when they
- 53:13Speaker 2: introduce new ones, so usually there's overlap, but you don't
- 53:17Speaker 2: expect to see a bunch of really groundbreaking games coming
- 53:21Speaker 2: out because you figured Nintendo's kind of holding those back
- 53:24Speaker 2: for the next system.
- 53:26Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like again we buy systems because it's
- 53:30Speaker 1: it's like you said, what games do you have that
- 53:32Speaker 1: I have to play? And that's been a very long
- 53:35Speaker 1: time since Nintendo has had it.
- 53:36Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, moving on to our news in the film
- 53:42Speaker 2: world and beyond. One thing that Ariel saw that was
- 53:45Speaker 2: interesting is the news about a sequel to a beloved
- 53:52Speaker 2: mel Brooks comedy.
- 53:55Speaker 1: Yeah, comedy that I have never seen. What I've foreseen
- 54:00Speaker 1: it Holy.
- 54:03Speaker 2: That blows my mind that you've never seen Spaceballs.
- 54:06Speaker 1: I've seen like five minutes of it and I was like,
- 54:09Speaker 1: this is annoying, and I turned it off. But I
- 54:11Speaker 1: was younger.
- 54:12Speaker 2: I think I think you would find a lot of
- 54:14Speaker 2: stuff pretty funny. I mean, it's definitely aimed more at
- 54:18Speaker 2: people who are like Star Wars fans, because that's the
- 54:22Speaker 2: that's the specific property they're making fun of the most.
- 54:28Speaker 2: There's a little bit of Star Trek in there too,
- 54:29Speaker 2: and there's other stuff as well, but Star Wars is
- 54:32Speaker 2: primarily the property that they're they're spoofing, and I think Spaceballs,
- 54:40Speaker 2: if you take two films that were made relatively close
- 54:43Speaker 2: to one another in the mel Brooks canon Spaceballs and
- 54:47Speaker 2: Robin hood Men and Tights. I argue that Spaceballs is
- 54:51Speaker 2: hands down the superior film and that it's after robinhood
- 54:56Speaker 2: Men and Tights where I started to lose interest in
- 54:59Speaker 2: mel Brooks movies because I didn't find them as entertaining.
- 55:03Speaker 1: Yeah, except I really liked the musical The Producers with
- 55:07Speaker 1: Uma Thurman and Matthew Broderck. I think that was post.
- 55:11Speaker 2: That was post. But I have such deep love for
- 55:14Speaker 2: the original Producers film with Gene Wilder and Zero Mustelle
- 55:19Speaker 2: that the musical I thought is fine, but it doesn't
- 55:25Speaker 2: touch the original for me. But I think part of
- 55:27Speaker 2: that is dependent upon which one you see first.
- 55:31Speaker 1: That probably is true. So I think the problem for
- 55:34Speaker 1: me was Spaceballs. And it's kind of unfair because it's
- 55:38Speaker 1: not solely something that is in Spaceball's but through all
- 55:43Speaker 1: of mel Brooks's comedy is the like the infant, the
- 55:49Speaker 1: juvenile humor, I mean blue humor, the movie.
- 55:55Speaker 2: It is the heart of all mel Brooks movie.
- 55:58Speaker 1: Yes, but the name of this movie is called space Balls,
- 56:02Speaker 1: and I think probably the five minutes that I turned
- 56:05Speaker 1: on were some juvenile blue joke. And I guess that's
- 56:10Speaker 1: why it didn't hit me, because at least with like
- 56:12Speaker 1: Young Frankenstein, it lured me in with like class.
- 56:19Speaker 2: I mean, there's definitely there's definitely a lot of like
- 56:23Speaker 2: what knockers. What Knockers is one of the earliest jokes
- 56:27Speaker 2: in Young Frankenstein. But yeah, I get what you're saying.
- 56:29Speaker 2: I also think like those jokes, like it depends on
- 56:34Speaker 2: like I think he was being a little more winky
- 56:38Speaker 2: naughty kind of with his humor.
- 56:41Speaker 1: In naughty or naughty.
- 56:43Speaker 2: Naughty, like as in be like like like little Wicked
- 56:48Speaker 2: being a little wicked with his humor. When you look
- 56:51Speaker 2: at things like Blazing Saddles and Young Frankenstein and the Producers, Like,
- 56:57Speaker 2: there's definitely elements of that in those those films. Then
- 57:02Speaker 2: when you get to things a little bit later like
- 57:05Speaker 2: Spaceballs and Robin Hoodmin in Tights, he doesn't bother with
- 57:10Speaker 2: the winky naughty kind of approach. It's a little more
- 57:14Speaker 2: like right out there overt and I think it does
- 57:18Speaker 2: lose a little something of the the entertainment touch for me,
- 57:24Speaker 2: Like I prefer that kind of I prefer it where
- 57:28Speaker 2: it feels like you're in on the joke, but it's
- 57:31Speaker 2: not like a joke that's just overt and right out
- 57:35Speaker 2: there in the spotlight. So it's one of the reasons
- 57:38Speaker 2: why I do not like the Young Frankenstein Stage musical,
- 57:43Speaker 2: because I feel like all the things that worked in
- 57:45Speaker 2: the movie have been cranked up and turned into overt
- 57:49Speaker 2: dirty jokes in the play, and it just didn't sit
- 57:54Speaker 2: right with me. It's not that I don't appreciate a
- 57:56Speaker 2: good dirty joke. I love dirty jokes, but I was like,
- 58:00Speaker 2: it was so much more artful in the film.
- 58:04Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I haven't watched or heard. I've heard one
- 58:09Speaker 1: song from Young Frankenstein.
- 58:11Speaker 2: He vas my boyfriend.
- 58:14Speaker 1: I don't think that was the one. I was doing
- 58:16Speaker 1: it in some dance.
- 58:17Speaker 2: Class Transylvania Mania. Maybe maybe.
- 58:22Speaker 1: But Tony told me that I have to watch the
- 58:25Speaker 1: first Baseballs because Josh gadd is working with mel Brooks
- 58:28Speaker 1: on the second one, and of course I want to
- 58:30Speaker 1: watch that. And I told Tony I already have. I've
- 58:33Speaker 1: watched Avenue five.
- 58:36Speaker 2: I mean Spaceball's. I think it's worth watching. There are
- 58:38Speaker 2: some great jokes in that, there's some there's some great
- 58:43Speaker 2: growner lines in it. There's some very weird, absurd humor.
- 58:50Speaker 2: Like it's one of those movies. It's kind of like
- 58:52Speaker 2: I would argue, like Monty Python, The Holy Grail. It's
- 58:55Speaker 2: one of those movies that becomes incredibly quotable. So it's
- 58:59Speaker 2: also one of those movies you want your first experience
- 59:01Speaker 2: watching it to not be in a big group of
- 59:05Speaker 2: fans who have seen it a billion times, because they
- 59:07Speaker 2: will ruin the experience for you.
- 59:10Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha? Well maybe I will watch it, I do.
- 59:14Speaker 1: I have heard that. Originally, Melbrook said that he wasn't
- 59:17Speaker 1: going to do a sequel unless Rick Mick Romantics came
- 59:24Speaker 1: out of retirement, which is very unlikely.
- 59:29Speaker 2: Yeah, he played Darth Helmet in the original.
- 59:33Speaker 1: Amazing actor who chose to do more important things with
- 59:36Speaker 1: his life and his family. So you know, if he
- 59:41Speaker 1: came out, that would be amazing. I'm not like betting
- 59:45Speaker 1: my hat on it.
- 59:46Speaker 2: Is that?
- 59:46Speaker 1: How that phrase?
- 59:47Speaker 2: God? Why not? Probably?
- 59:49Speaker 1: Not sure, but you know, maybe maybe I'll watch it.
- 59:54Speaker 1: It is one of those blind spots in geek culture
- 59:56Speaker 1: that I have. Yeah, I think it's I did like
- 59:58Speaker 1: the barfie at Dragon Con Lash.
- 1:00:01Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's worth watching, Like you've
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: seen Robin hood min and Tights though, right.
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: Yes, And I loved it mainly because I loved Princess
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: Bride growing up, and I watched it again recently and
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: I'm like, this is not this is cringey.
- 1:00:16Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said, Spaceball's to me was the last. Like,
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: I don't even think of Spaceballs as a really good
- 1:00:23Speaker 2: mel Brooks movie because it's late period Meil Brooks. To me,
- 1:00:26Speaker 2: the really good ones are really the producers, Young Frankenstein
- 1:00:31Speaker 2: and Blazing Saddles are like the three best. High Anxiety
- 1:00:36Speaker 2: is also way up there. Silent movie is very silly.
- 1:00:43Speaker 2: It is also very juvenile, but it's fun. And then
- 1:00:48Speaker 2: when you get to things like Spaceballs, I'm like, Okay,
- 1:00:51Speaker 2: I still enjoy this. I'm enjoying the spoof, but it
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: is I feel like some of the magic is going away.
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: And then it just went downhill from there, although nothing
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: was quite as a big kick in the teeth as
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: life stinks. I don't think I'll ever watch that movie again.
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: But I didn't.
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: I didn't watch that one, but I did watch the
- 1:01:12Speaker 1: recent History of the World series.
- 1:01:14Speaker 2: Yeah, I still haven't seen that. I have. I forgot
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: about the History of the World Part one that is
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: also a pretty I mean, it's funny it is. That
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: one's probably the most juvenile of the early Milbrooks movies.
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of those ones that I don't think
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: I've ever watched all the way through, but I have
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: watched all of it.
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: I mean, like that makes sense. It was. It was
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: one of the things that inspired my original Renaissance Festival character,
- 1:01:39Speaker 2: because when we created characters for the George Renaissance Festival,
- 1:01:44Speaker 2: one of the things we were supposed to do is
- 1:01:46Speaker 2: create a motto that kind of encapsulated our character's motivation
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: and sort of sort of like their central reason for being, like,
- 1:01:57Speaker 2: every day and every way I will show people blah
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: blah blah. And since I was the mayor of the village,
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: I was like, why it's good to be the mayor
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: because it was a play on it's good to be
- 1:02:08Speaker 2: the king.
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: Yeah. I In History of the World Part two, there
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: were some skits that were very funny, and then there
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: was a lot that I was like, what did I
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: just watch that?
- 1:02:19Speaker 2: You know?
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: I also like, I have this friend who I used
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: to lark with who's done a bunch of improv. He's
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: actually back into it now. He's very clever, and he
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: once said, you can have a joke about a urinal,
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: but it's only going to be funny if you can
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: make it clever.
- 1:02:37Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's why like a lot of the improv
- 1:02:41Speaker 2: groups I have worked with kind of had either a
- 1:02:44Speaker 2: spoken or unspoken rule of avoid the blue humor because
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: it's it's an easy, cheap laugh, but it's the kind
- 1:02:52Speaker 2: of laugh that no one's ever going to remember. Whereas
- 1:02:54Speaker 2: if you come up with a very clever character or
- 1:02:58Speaker 2: a really really fun any joke in the middle of
- 1:03:01Speaker 2: a scene, that's the kind of thing people will talk
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: about when the show's over. But if it's you being blue,
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: then yeah, people might laugh, you might get a response,
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: but it's no one thinks about it a moment afterwards.
- 1:03:15Speaker 1: So yeah, which is hard because you also, an improv
- 1:03:18Speaker 1: have to play off of what your audience is responding to,
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: and if they're responding off of juvenile blue jokes, then
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: you're kind of in a rock and.
- 1:03:25Speaker 2: A hard tame. Yeah, but I have walked out of
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: shows like that, So yes, it's true.
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, so maybe I'll watch Spaceballs, but I won't
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: watch it on Netflix. That's not where I can watch it,
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: which means I also won't be able to do a
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: Spaceball's experience at one of Netflix's new two new major
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: entertainment complexes that they're creating.
- 1:03:47Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're building, well, not building, they're converting old
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: department stores into these experience centers. One in Dallas, Texas.
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: Someone in King of Prussia, Pennsylvania. I've actually been King
- 1:04:00Speaker 2: of Prussia.
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: I didn't know that was a place.
- 1:04:03Speaker 2: Yeah, King of Prussia. Yes, I have been there. I've
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: been to the King of Prussia Mall, which is ginormous.
- 1:04:09Speaker 2: It is a huge mall. And they've taken these spaces.
- 1:04:13Speaker 2: They're converting them over into these experiences that are inspired
- 1:04:17Speaker 2: by Netflix originals, whether that's movies or series. And they'll
- 1:04:22Speaker 2: also have like thematically relevant food and drink at these places.
- 1:04:27Speaker 2: That's about all we know as far as what's going in, Like,
- 1:04:32Speaker 2: we don't know what specific titles are going to be used,
- 1:04:34Speaker 2: Like I would be shocked if there's not a Stranger
- 1:04:36Speaker 2: Things themed experience, but we don't know that for sure.
- 1:04:41Speaker 2: We know that it's supposed to open in twenty twenty five,
- 1:04:45Speaker 2: and that's about it. I don't know whether to get
- 1:04:49Speaker 2: excited about this or not, because part of me wonders like,
- 1:04:52Speaker 2: is this going to be more like a meal Wolf
- 1:04:56Speaker 2: installation or is it going to be more like one
- 1:04:58Speaker 2: of those pop up in to Graham experience places.
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: I think it's going to be kind of in between,
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: because you know, Netflix has done a lot of pop
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: up experiences. Yeah, they want this one to be more
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: long standing. But they talk about in the article on
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: Variety about how like you can dance to a Taylor
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: Swift song i'la Bridgerton in a ballroom and then walk
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: into the next area of this mall and basically be
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: on the glass bridge from Squid Games, and then you
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: can go to the food court and eat some food
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: inspired by the TV shows on Netflix. So my guess
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: is that those things will and then also have like
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: retail therapy there, so partial mall, partial uh changing experiences
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: based on I guess whatever is popular. Yeah, but it's
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: hard because there are things on Netflix like that'll be
- 1:05:47Speaker 1: popular for a season or two and then not be
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: And how much money do you put into each thing
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: that you put into a mall?
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: I mean, if you're using it as partly a marketing
- 1:05:56Speaker 2: tool in order to promote a sh show or film.
- 1:06:02Speaker 2: I could see that because I've also been to a
- 1:06:04Speaker 2: few Netflix installations that were part of South By Southwest,
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: for example, and those were those were only existing for
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: like half a week before being taken down. But it
- 1:06:18Speaker 2: was all in an effort to promote some new thing,
- 1:06:21Speaker 2: which in turn helps drive subscribers to join the service,
- 1:06:25Speaker 2: And like, I can see how this fits into their
- 1:06:28Speaker 2: overall marketing strategy. It is interesting that they're choosing to
- 1:06:33Speaker 2: go with permanent locations. I'm wondering how long this will last, Like,
- 1:06:37Speaker 2: is this going to be something that Netflix will be
- 1:06:40Speaker 2: operating for a while, or is this going to be
- 1:06:43Speaker 2: something where after a quarter or two they just quietly
- 1:06:46Speaker 2: shut it down because of the expense of running marketing
- 1:06:51Speaker 2: this way.
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. And it's so
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: one of those things that for me, it's got to
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: be more than just an Instagram dive. Yeah, for me
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: to be engaged or ever want to go back again.
- 1:07:06Speaker 2: Totally. Yeah, I feel the same way, and that's why
- 1:07:09Speaker 2: I'm like, I hope it's more mele Wolf and less
- 1:07:12Speaker 2: Balloon Museum. Although I did like the balloon Museum. It
- 1:07:15Speaker 2: was fun to walk through, but I guess balloon museum
- 1:07:18Speaker 2: is slightly higher on the list than say whatever that
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: candy or ice cream one, Like there was an ice.
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: Candy, there's an ice cream museum, there's candy tope.
- 1:07:28Speaker 2: Yeah there which those I felt like they didn't have
- 1:07:30Speaker 2: any real the slime Museum, I just felt like some
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: of those didn't have any real value outside of this
- 1:07:38Speaker 2: is a place for you to take a selfie, right,
- 1:07:40Speaker 2: like you're not going to get anything else out of it,
- 1:07:44Speaker 2: and hopefully this will be at a slightly higher standard.
- 1:07:49Speaker 2: Here's hoping.
- 1:07:49Speaker 1: Yeah, the biggest Instagram things that I see as value
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: is like there's a place near me that's like come
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: here and you can do your content creation if you
- 1:07:59Speaker 1: don't have a space in your home. We have like
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: lights and backdrops and things like that. So m but
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: that's not quite it's called like an Instagram experience, but it's.
- 1:08:09Speaker 2: More of like a tool, Like it's almost like almost
- 1:08:12Speaker 2: like a content creator house or something.
- 1:08:16Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, on to completely random other news.
- 1:08:23Speaker 2: Yeah, I was surprised that you put this in. Well,
- 1:08:27Speaker 2: we can not talk about that, we can.
- 1:08:29Speaker 1: I was just I was amused that John Hamm is
- 1:08:32Speaker 1: aspiring to be Jeff Goldbloom in his career, Like, that's
- 1:08:36Speaker 1: the career trajectory he wants to take.
- 1:08:38Speaker 2: By that, he means that Jeff Goldbloom can end up
- 1:08:41Speaker 2: getting a role in something like thor Ragnarok, steal every
- 1:08:47Speaker 2: scene he's in, and then wander off and just be
- 1:08:50Speaker 2: weird and and enjoy his life. And that's kind of
- 1:08:54Speaker 2: what John Hamm wants his career to He wants his
- 1:08:57Speaker 2: career arc to mirror that.
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: Well, he's they've both done their leading man phase and
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: albeit I think John Hamm could still be a leading man, Like.
- 1:09:07Speaker 2: Yeah, the dude is the dude is like critically handsome,
- 1:09:11Speaker 2: I mean.
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. But also part of that is he has
- 1:09:16Speaker 1: made bids. Bids is the wrong word. He has pitched
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: himself to be a steam ceiling character in Marvel. He
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: is a superhero comic book fan apparently, and has ideas
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: of characters he'd like to play, but has also turned
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: down characters like Green Lantern.
- 1:09:33Speaker 2: Yeah, he apparently has a specific character in Marvel in
- 1:09:37Speaker 2: mind that he wants to play. He's talked to people
- 1:09:40Speaker 2: at Marvel who have confirmed that there are plans of
- 1:09:44Speaker 2: bringing this character to life at some point, and so
- 1:09:48Speaker 2: he's he remains hopeful that he will be able to
- 1:09:50Speaker 2: play this character. We do not know who this character is.
- 1:09:53Speaker 2: None of the articles suggested.
- 1:09:55Speaker 1: That, I I'm gonna guess. Man A, Okay, it's the
- 1:10:03Speaker 1: only funny one I can think of that hasn't been done.
- 1:10:06Speaker 2: I mean, the history of Marvel, there's no shortage of
- 1:10:11Speaker 2: weird characters, some of which only existed for like an
- 1:10:16Speaker 2: issue of a comic. But but yeah, I have no
- 1:10:20Speaker 2: way of knowing, and I don't know. I mean, I
- 1:10:23Speaker 2: hope he gets what he wants. I also hope that
- 1:10:26Speaker 2: Marvel figures their crap out like we've In our last episode,
- 1:10:30Speaker 2: we talked about how you know the production for Blade
- 1:10:33Speaker 2: is thrown into disarray yet again because they lost to
- 1:10:37Speaker 2: another director and they've been through like two directors and
- 1:10:40Speaker 2: five writers or something, and that you know, it's becoming
- 1:10:44Speaker 2: something of a joke. In fact, it has been a meme.
- 1:10:46Speaker 2: Like I've seen Ali, the actor who's supposed to play Blade.
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: I've seen memes of him being a photoshopped as an
- 1:10:55Speaker 2: old man saying he's at the premiere for Blade.
- 1:11:00Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, not as poor as the creator who filmed
- 1:11:09Speaker 1: the last Screenwriter movie.
- 1:11:12Speaker 2: I guess you're saying that because they were denied the
- 1:11:17Speaker 2: experience to do a public screening of the last screenwriter
- 1:11:21Speaker 2: in London.
- 1:11:22Speaker 1: Yeah, they were planning to and got enough complaints that
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: it got canceled. They're still doing a screener for the
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: cast and crew. The reason that they got so many
- 1:11:32Speaker 1: complaints is because the script was completely written by I
- 1:11:37Speaker 1: guess chat GPT.
- 1:11:38Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they said. That's that's who they credit
- 1:11:42Speaker 2: or what they credit with the screenwriter credit in the
- 1:11:47Speaker 2: film is chat GPT. Whether that's true or that chat
- 1:11:51Speaker 2: GPT just played a part in it, or that someone
- 1:11:54Speaker 2: just wrote it and decided to seed all credit to
- 1:11:57Speaker 2: chat GPT, I don't know. The film itself deals with
- 1:12:02Speaker 2: the idea of a human screenwriter who has been displaced
- 1:12:07Speaker 2: by AI generative AI. But yeah, I could see why
- 1:12:13Speaker 2: people why this would be controversial, Like if in fact
- 1:12:17Speaker 2: the screenplay was written by chat GBT, then but the.
- 1:12:22Speaker 1: Creator, Yeah, but the director does say that, like, if
- 1:12:25Speaker 1: you watch this movie, you might understand more.
- 1:12:31Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you do that, then what you're doing
- 1:12:33Speaker 2: is rewarding the people who are doing the very thing
- 1:12:35Speaker 2: that all those writers were protesting in the first place.
- 1:12:38Speaker 2: And like whether or not it makes the writer's point
- 1:12:40Speaker 2: that's kind of beside the point, Like this is like
- 1:12:44Speaker 2: someone arguing they should be able to have their cake
- 1:12:46Speaker 2: and eat it too, right, Like I'm making a stake.
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: I hate but I don't like that term because when
- 1:12:53Speaker 1: I buy a cake, I don't just let it sit
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: on the counter. I do eat it.
- 1:12:57Speaker 2: But well, yeah, you can have your cake, or you
- 1:13:01Speaker 2: can eat your cake, but you can't have your cake
- 1:13:04Speaker 2: and eat your cake.
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: You know, today I learned something that I should have
- 1:13:09Speaker 1: learned in second grade.
- 1:13:12Speaker 2: Because that's the thing that when you eat it, you
- 1:13:14Speaker 2: no longer have your cake. You can have your cakeless,
- 1:13:18Speaker 2: not the way I do it. You put a cake
- 1:13:22Speaker 2: in front of me. There's soon going to be an
- 1:13:24Speaker 2: absence of cake.
- 1:13:27Speaker 1: Fair enough, Well, soon there's going to be an absence
- 1:13:30Speaker 1: of time for us.
- 1:13:31Speaker 2: So we should get through all the trailers.
- 1:13:33Speaker 1: Get through all the trails.
- 1:13:34Speaker 2: Okay, we've got trailers to talk about.
- 1:13:36Speaker 1: It makes me feel like I'm in Halloween times.
- 1:13:40Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't listen. I did not intend for that.
- 1:13:43Speaker 2: That was not my goal. But it just turned out
- 1:13:45Speaker 2: that a lot of the trailers that came out this week.
- 1:13:47Speaker 2: I guess it's because studios are starting to promote well,
- 1:13:52Speaker 2: you know, actually only I think only one of these
- 1:13:54Speaker 2: is coming out in Halloween season, But studios are starting
- 1:13:57Speaker 2: to promote stuff that is more for the spool seasons.
- 1:14:00Speaker 2: But yeah, we got a bunch of movies that are
- 1:14:02Speaker 2: in the horror or thriller genres. And first up is
- 1:14:06Speaker 2: a trailer for a film called The Beast Within that's
- 1:14:10Speaker 2: scheduled to come out on July twenty sixth. This one's starring,
- 1:14:14Speaker 2: isn't it Kit Harrington? Who's in this one?
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kid Herring.
- 1:14:18Speaker 2: It's a were wolf movie, it.
- 1:14:20Speaker 1: Is, And it's about a were wolf who has a
- 1:14:23Speaker 1: family and his wife is trying to keep the family
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: safe and him safe through all of his changes. And
- 1:14:29Speaker 1: it's really rough, and people worry for his daughter's.
- 1:14:32Speaker 2: Safety, including his daughter Traylor looks.
- 1:14:35Speaker 1: Including his daughter, but also it looks like from the
- 1:14:37Speaker 1: trailer that eventually that might not be a problem.
- 1:14:40Speaker 2: What was interesting to me is that from the trailer
- 1:14:42Speaker 2: I was getting the feeling that maybe this was going
- 1:14:45Speaker 2: to be something like, is this going to be one
- 1:14:47Speaker 2: of those horror movies where a person believes themselves to
- 1:14:51Speaker 2: be a monster? And as the movie goes on you
- 1:14:55Speaker 2: find out whether or not they actually are a monster
- 1:14:57Speaker 2: or if this is just like some sort of delusion
- 1:15:00Speaker 2: they have. Except the trailer gives it away that no,
- 1:15:02Speaker 2: there's a monster, like there's transformation scenes, and I'm thinking,
- 1:15:07Speaker 2: was that the antenta of the filmmaker. I mean, it's
- 1:15:10Speaker 2: entirely possible. It was like, not all werewolf movies are
- 1:15:13Speaker 2: meant to be a mystery about it, Like American Werewolf
- 1:15:17Speaker 2: in London was absolutely about a were wolf and there
- 1:15:19Speaker 2: was no doubt about it when you went to it.
- 1:15:22Speaker 2: But this one I couldn't tell, like because the way
- 1:15:25Speaker 2: it was structured. It made me think like, oh, this
- 1:15:28Speaker 2: is a movie about a man who has he struggles
- 1:15:35Speaker 2: with controlling his own emotions, and perhaps people are thinking
- 1:15:41Speaker 2: of him in the sense of someone who's afflicted with licanthropy.
- 1:15:46Speaker 2: But as the film goes on, or as the trailer
- 1:15:48Speaker 2: goes I'm like, no, this is a were wolf movie.
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it is interesting because you know that is
- 1:15:56Speaker 1: the parallel to real life for were wolves. Yeah. I
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: did a student film once that was kind of about that.
- 1:16:05Speaker 1: It was about a woman whose husband was a were
- 1:16:07Speaker 1: wolf and they'd taken another person who's a were wolf
- 1:16:10Speaker 1: but they had learned how to live with it in
- 1:16:12Speaker 1: a way that kept everybody safe, and it was just
- 1:16:15Speaker 1: kind of like a crappy time each month when because
- 1:16:19Speaker 1: you know, it was a painful experience to go through
- 1:16:22Speaker 1: and not RESTful for the people who change, but it
- 1:16:27Speaker 1: was slice of life and uplifting. So I kind of
- 1:16:32Speaker 1: was super into the trailer at first because of that,
- 1:16:34Speaker 1: because I absolutely loved that little short film and the
- 1:16:37Speaker 1: story behind it. But yeah, this feels a little bit
- 1:16:39Speaker 1: less hopeful than that.
- 1:16:41Speaker 2: Well, if you want to have a lot of hope,
- 1:16:43Speaker 2: how about we lock you in a room that has
- 1:16:46Speaker 2: no visible windows or doors in it and see how
- 1:16:50Speaker 2: you do from there, because that's kind of the premise
- 1:16:54Speaker 2: for the next film trailer we saw, which for a
- 1:16:58Speaker 2: movie called The Abandoned.
- 1:17:01Speaker 1: I So I was fine with it other than the
- 1:17:04Speaker 1: fact that like, this dude's gonna have to use the
- 1:17:06Speaker 1: restroom and this this room flips around and you don't see, thankfully,
- 1:17:13Speaker 1: at least in the trailer, any of that stuff also
- 1:17:17Speaker 1: flipping around on the floor.
- 1:17:21Speaker 2: Now it's all over the place.
- 1:17:23Speaker 1: But you find out in the trailer that this guy
- 1:17:25Speaker 1: who gets subducted by this bright light and put in
- 1:17:28Speaker 1: this room eventually gets to talk to somebody else who's supposedly.
- 1:17:32Speaker 2: In another room an adjacent cub.
- 1:17:35Speaker 1: Yeah, and then like things are getting worse and there's
- 1:17:39Speaker 1: clues being dropped and you don't know why. And but
- 1:17:43Speaker 1: I from the trailer, I had no idea what to
- 1:17:45Speaker 1: make of the other person because sometimes it seems like
- 1:17:49Speaker 1: they were also trapped in a cube, and sometimes it
- 1:17:51Speaker 1: seemed like they didn't trust the guy, but the like
- 1:17:53Speaker 1: the the log line for the movie says that they
- 1:17:56Speaker 1: should need to work together to survive.
- 1:17:57Speaker 2: It's weird. Yeah, it made me think of the movie Cube,
- 1:18:01Speaker 2: the science fiction horror film. But yeah, it's it's it.
- 1:18:06Speaker 2: It's in that weird subgenre of sci fi horror of
- 1:18:10Speaker 2: person finds himself in an isolated area that's extremely confined
- 1:18:18Speaker 2: and then has to try and figure out a way
- 1:18:20Speaker 2: to get out. Yeah. When I looked into this, it
- 1:18:26Speaker 2: sounded to me like this movie has been done for
- 1:18:29Speaker 2: a couple of years, but it's just been sitting on
- 1:18:31Speaker 2: the shelf, So that doesn't frequently raise confidence that it's
- 1:18:36Speaker 2: gonna be a banger of a film. But who knows,
- 1:18:39Speaker 2: this could be one of those low budget sci fi
- 1:18:42Speaker 2: horror movies that ultimately ends up becoming a cult classic.
- 1:18:47Speaker 2: The trailer did not really work for me, That doesn't
- 1:18:49Speaker 2: necessarily mean the movie itself wouldn't.
- 1:18:53Speaker 1: Yeah, this next movie, I don't under I didn't understand
- 1:18:57Speaker 1: the trailer, but I do understand why it's geeky, but
- 1:19:00Speaker 1: because it has Doctor Who and an elf in it,
- 1:19:03Speaker 1: which is the trailer for Starve Acre.
- 1:19:05Speaker 2: Yeah, this is like a folk horror movie. So this
- 1:19:09Speaker 2: this definitely feels more like something like The Witch, right,
- 1:19:12Speaker 2: like it has that kind of there's this creepy I.
- 1:19:15Speaker 1: Say, I've not watched it, so I mean, you need.
- 1:19:18Speaker 2: To see The Witch. It's so good, but it's so
- 1:19:21Speaker 2: so good. It is scary, but it's so good. It's
- 1:19:26Speaker 2: the movie that introduced me to Anya Taylor Joy, and
- 1:19:29Speaker 2: I was like, who is this child actor? She's amazing.
- 1:19:33Speaker 2: And then the more I learned about the more I
- 1:19:34Speaker 2: was like, it's not fair that she's this good. She
- 1:19:38Speaker 2: didn't even friaking go to school for it anyway. Starve Acre, Yeah,
- 1:19:44Speaker 2: it looks like there's folk tale horror elements, including things
- 1:19:50Speaker 2: like what is the husband actually working on? He seems
- 1:19:54Speaker 2: to be so secretive and jealously guards the things he
- 1:19:58Speaker 2: works on, and could it be that this is for
- 1:20:01Speaker 2: dark purposes and who knows? Or is that a red herring?
- 1:20:05Speaker 2: And so I watched the trailer and I thought, this
- 1:20:09Speaker 2: feels like it's missing maybe two ingredients and I can't
- 1:20:12Speaker 2: necessarily name them, but like two little things that would
- 1:20:15Speaker 2: make me go, I need to see this so far
- 1:20:18Speaker 2: hook Yeah it doesn't hook me, but it but it
- 1:20:22Speaker 2: looks like it's incredibly well made.
- 1:20:26Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I agree. Something else that looks well made,
- 1:20:31Speaker 1: but it doesn't hook it that in part.
- 1:20:33Speaker 2: That no type, That's fine?
- 1:20:36Speaker 1: Do you want to spend more time on startmaker? I
- 1:20:38Speaker 1: really did not understand that we can.
- 1:20:40Speaker 2: Just move on. I just I love that that was
- 1:20:43Speaker 2: your that was your input into it, because I can't
- 1:20:46Speaker 2: blame you, because there isn't enough from that trailer to
- 1:20:49Speaker 2: really have like an informed opinion.
- 1:20:53Speaker 1: It looked like sad, creepy all of a sudden, his
- 1:20:57Speaker 1: name is escaping me. Holy moly, Matt Smith. I have
- 1:21:03Speaker 1: a friend named Matt Smith. Why did I forget that?
- 1:21:07Speaker 1: But yeah, a creepy Matt Smith and glad real from
- 1:21:12Speaker 1: the Rings of Power. That's what it looks like to me.
- 1:21:16Speaker 2: Well, what did the Penguin trailer look.
- 1:21:17Speaker 1: Like to you, it looked like they took a geeky
- 1:21:20Speaker 1: property and took everything geeky out of it and gave
- 1:21:25Speaker 1: me a cookie cutter Mafia stuite.
- 1:21:27Speaker 2: Yeah. We chatted about this offline earlier this week, and
- 1:21:31Speaker 2: I had complained that it looked like every Mafia series
- 1:21:36Speaker 2: or film that I've seen in ages, which is typically
- 1:21:39Speaker 2: about criminals doing crime to other criminals. Right, Like it's
- 1:21:44Speaker 2: it's all about the crime world and it's very insular.
- 1:21:49Speaker 2: Like it made me think of the Sopranos. Really, it
- 1:21:53Speaker 2: was Sopranos Gotham City.
- 1:21:57Speaker 1: And not just because Kristin Miliotti is playing the daughter
- 1:22:00Speaker 1: of Falcone in it. Yeah, I'm guessing the daughter of Falcone.
- 1:22:05Speaker 1: She's not old enough to be his wife.
- 1:22:07Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that. I thought everyone did a good job.
- 1:22:11Speaker 2: But again, like I liked elements of The Batman. Ultimately,
- 1:22:16Speaker 2: I don't think I liked the movie, but I liked
- 1:22:18Speaker 2: elements of The Batman, and I liked kind of the
- 1:22:21Speaker 2: gritty noir sort of look to things. I felt that
- 1:22:27Speaker 2: Batman himself came across as an idiot as opposed to
- 1:22:30Speaker 2: a detective. The World's Greatest detective, like like when your
- 1:22:34Speaker 2: butler is solving the riddles before you do. That's not
- 1:22:37Speaker 2: the world's greatest detective. But I kind of liked the aesthetic.
- 1:22:43Speaker 2: This All it has is that aesthetic like that seems
- 1:22:46Speaker 2: to be the only thing that's held over it.
- 1:22:50Speaker 1: It does have a freaking phenomenal cast. Other than Kristin Miliatti,
- 1:22:54Speaker 1: It's got Clancy Brown, Mark Strong, Michael Kelly, Theo Rossi
- 1:22:59Speaker 1: Shoa a good douche Dosh Lou.
- 1:23:02Speaker 2: I don't I don't know how to pronounce her name.
- 1:23:05Speaker 2: Colin Dear, Dr Colin Ferrell, obviously Colin.
- 1:23:09Speaker 1: Farrell, Scott Cohen, who I love from The Tenth Kingdom.
- 1:23:11Speaker 1: He was also on Gilmore Girls, and a bunch of
- 1:23:13Speaker 1: other stuff. Francis Francoischau. Like just a huge cast of
- 1:23:18Speaker 1: all these actors that I love. And I wish I
- 1:23:20Speaker 1: loved the Trailer more. I wish I loved The Batman more.
- 1:23:23Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I remember you had issues with The
- 1:23:26Speaker 2: Batman too. Well, for one thing, you didn't like the
- 1:23:28Speaker 2: version of the Reddler. The Riddler was the one thing
- 1:23:30Speaker 2: in The Batman I really liked, But.
- 1:23:34Speaker 1: I liked Falcone.
- 1:23:35Speaker 2: Falcone was good too, but yeah, uh, yeah, I I
- 1:23:40Speaker 2: I hope that the Penguin does well. I hope that
- 1:23:43Speaker 2: it's a success, but yeah, it just there's nothing in
- 1:23:47Speaker 2: it that doesn't feel like, you know, stereotypical generic mafia series.
- 1:23:54Speaker 1: Like yeah, I guess. I also liked Jeffrey Wright in
- 1:23:59Speaker 1: The Batman. He made a good.
- 1:24:02Speaker 2: Well. We also have a trailer for the sequel to
- 1:24:05Speaker 2: the horror movie Smile. This one's called Smile Too. Very
- 1:24:09Speaker 2: creative trailer. I like the fact that they use the number.
- 1:24:14Speaker 2: I'm so tired of these movies that aren't using numbers.
- 1:24:16Speaker 2: And I don't know which movie is the first one,
- 1:24:19Speaker 2: Like Planet of the Apes. I'm looking at you because
- 1:24:22Speaker 2: if you call one Dawn of the Planet of the Apes,
- 1:24:25Speaker 2: so the other one rises the Planet of the Apes.
- 1:24:27Speaker 2: Let me tell you which one should be the first one.
- 1:24:29Speaker 2: But anyway, yes, Dawn should be the first one. It's
- 1:24:34Speaker 2: not and that's confusing. So first, Smile Too, you're doing
- 1:24:38Speaker 2: that correct? But yeah, I wrote in our show notes
- 1:24:42Speaker 2: like what if Smile but with Lady Gaga because this
- 1:24:47Speaker 2: story follows a young woman who is a pop star
- 1:24:52Speaker 2: and she encounters the Smile demon. Uh, And I don't know,
- 1:24:58Speaker 2: I watched this trailer, and I didn't feel that any
- 1:25:02Speaker 2: of the moments of people looking into her face and
- 1:25:06Speaker 2: then doing the creepy smile were nearly as effective as
- 1:25:10Speaker 2: what happened in the first film. Like, I felt that
- 1:25:12Speaker 2: the smiles in the first film all looked more extreme
- 1:25:16Speaker 2: and scary.
- 1:25:18Speaker 1: Do you want to know something? Do you want a
- 1:25:21Speaker 1: secret that's going to blow your mind? I'm not seeing
- 1:25:24Speaker 1: the first smile. I could barely google it because every
- 1:25:27Speaker 1: time I googled smile movie came up with smile too.
- 1:25:30Speaker 2: Yeah, the first the first movies like it's it's creepy.
- 1:25:33Speaker 2: It's a creepy like It's essentially a creepy demon slash
- 1:25:37Speaker 2: ghost movie is what it comes down to. And the
- 1:25:41Speaker 2: entity that is stalking the main character does so by
- 1:25:47Speaker 2: inhabiting the bodies of people around her and making them
- 1:25:50Speaker 2: do this like over exaggerated creepy smile like smiles to
- 1:25:55Speaker 2: the point where you're like, that doesn't even look human.
- 1:25:58Speaker 2: That smile is so big and and at least a
- 1:26:03Speaker 2: couple of scenes, it's really really, really effective. This one.
- 1:26:06Speaker 2: It just I don't know, maybe they got people who
- 1:26:09Speaker 2: weren't quite as expressive, or maybe they didn't use any
- 1:26:12Speaker 2: like CGI to jusge things up, but it didn't hit
- 1:26:15Speaker 2: me the same way.
- 1:26:17Speaker 1: The only thing I know is that the first guy
- 1:26:19Speaker 1: they show smiling is the guy who played the King
- 1:26:22Speaker 1: of Cats.
- 1:26:23Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, no, I saw that, and I was like, Oh,
- 1:26:25Speaker 2: is he about to take his shirt off and get
- 1:26:27Speaker 2: all hot and heavy on the nearest guy? Like, is
- 1:26:29Speaker 2: that what's going to happen?
- 1:26:31Speaker 1: He's about to turn into cat? Yeah? That I I
- 1:26:40Speaker 1: look forward to hearing your review of Smiling.
- 1:26:42Speaker 2: Yeah, this is clearly like that's the problem with all
- 1:26:45Speaker 2: the horror movie trailers, right, none of these are aerials
- 1:26:47Speaker 2: cup of tea.
- 1:26:49Speaker 1: Well, and sometimes I have things to say about them,
- 1:26:51Speaker 1: but this time they just didn't.
- 1:26:53Speaker 2: I think it's fair. I like, like I almost debated on
- 1:26:56Speaker 2: not putting them in here, because like, it's only there
- 1:27:00Speaker 2: are certain types of horror movies that I feel like, Oh,
- 1:27:03Speaker 2: this definitely needs to go into the conversation because this
- 1:27:05Speaker 2: is going to resonate with the geek population. There are
- 1:27:08Speaker 2: other ones where you're like, oh, Blumhouse had a quota
- 1:27:14Speaker 2: to meet and so they churned out eight movies and
- 1:27:17Speaker 2: these are none of them really matter to anybody.
- 1:27:21Speaker 1: Yeah, well we have one last movie that might be good,
- 1:27:26Speaker 1: it might be horror, but Jonathan put it in here
- 1:27:28Speaker 1: as a gritty western called Place.
- 1:27:30Speaker 2: Of Bones, Yeah yeah.
- 1:27:33Speaker 1: Which is about it's first of all, I thought I
- 1:27:36Speaker 1: had Gary Oldman in it, but it doesn't. But it
- 1:27:39Speaker 1: does have a person in it whose name is Cowboy,
- 1:27:42Speaker 1: which is awesome.
- 1:27:43Speaker 2: Also has Heather Graham in it.
- 1:27:45Speaker 1: It has Heather Graham is one of the main characters.
- 1:27:47Speaker 1: And from what I can get from the trailer, it's
- 1:27:49Speaker 1: about a woman who is so protective of her family
- 1:27:52Speaker 1: in the Frontier that she's just straight up willing to
- 1:27:55Speaker 1: kill people. Yeah, like that get on her.
- 1:27:57Speaker 2: Nerves or who are perceived throughout right, Like if she
- 1:28:02Speaker 2: perceives a threat to her family, she does not hesitate
- 1:28:06Speaker 2: to act, which, you know, I actually kind of dig
- 1:28:09Speaker 2: that because there's so many westerns, in particular, like dark,
- 1:28:13Speaker 2: gritty westerns where the you know, you have like a
- 1:28:19Speaker 2: female protagonist type character who learns the hard way that
- 1:28:24Speaker 2: she shouldn't have trusted that low down, no good so
- 1:28:27Speaker 2: and so. But it's only after she's suffered like untold
- 1:28:34Speaker 2: torture at the hands of this person. And this is
- 1:28:37Speaker 2: like a character who's like screw that I shoot first
- 1:28:40Speaker 2: and then if they're alive, maybe I ask questions later.
- 1:28:44Speaker 1: Yeah, so it might be over correcting a little too far,
- 1:28:48Speaker 1: but it is a nice change of things. Of all
- 1:28:52Speaker 1: of the movies, of all this scaryish movies, I think
- 1:28:56Speaker 1: this one appeals to me the second most after Beast
- 1:28:59Speaker 1: with It.
- 1:28:59Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, this one, I thought like it to me,
- 1:29:02Speaker 2: it fit kind of in that same realm as movies
- 1:29:06Speaker 2: like Unforgiven, where it's in that kind of of gritty,
- 1:29:11Speaker 2: realistic western where they strip away the any sort of
- 1:29:17Speaker 2: romance from you know, perceptions of that era, and I
- 1:29:24Speaker 2: was like, I'm into that, Like I think, I think
- 1:29:27Speaker 2: this looks like it's going to be effective. It's coming
- 1:29:29Speaker 2: out August twenty third and limited release. I don't know,
- 1:29:32Speaker 2: don't know if it's going to get a wide release
- 1:29:34Speaker 2: after that, so I don't know if they'll I mean,
- 1:29:36Speaker 2: the Plaza will probably show it here in Atlanta, because
- 1:29:39Speaker 2: the Plaza gets stuff like that all the time.
- 1:29:42Speaker 1: I might watch it. It's definitely one of those ones
- 1:29:44Speaker 1: that certainly hasn't gotten a lot of advertising.
- 1:29:46Speaker 2: Yes, this was the first I had heard of it
- 1:29:48Speaker 2: when I saw this trailer, and I was impressed. With
- 1:29:51Speaker 2: what I saw, I mean it looks like I mean,
- 1:29:53Speaker 2: it does look like there's going to be some body
- 1:29:54Speaker 2: horror stuff in there, not necessarily played up for body horror,
- 1:29:58Speaker 2: but someone does get a limb amputated so that the beast.
- 1:30:03Speaker 1: Within both have some horror. What was a body humor
- 1:30:07Speaker 1: body horror that I don't appreciate?
- 1:30:08Speaker 2: Well, yeah, Werewolf movies, I mean, especially anything after American
- 1:30:11Speaker 2: Werewolf in London like that. I think that set the
- 1:30:14Speaker 2: bar for body horror in were wolf movies.
- 1:30:17Speaker 1: I don't mind. Like the transformation cracky bone thing, it's
- 1:30:22Speaker 1: like watching fingernails get pulled off.
- 1:30:24Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah that was That was a moment in
- 1:30:26Speaker 2: that Beast Within trailer that gave me like it squiaked
- 1:30:29Speaker 2: me out. The fingernail Yeah, that definitely squaked me out.
- 1:30:33Speaker 1: Yeah, so stuff like that really bothers me, but not
- 1:30:37Speaker 1: as much as cannibalism.
- 1:30:39Speaker 2: Yeah, we all know what he eats areal So yeah, that's
- 1:30:44Speaker 2: all of our news stories. Like once again, we were
- 1:30:48Speaker 2: certain this was going to be a short episode, but
- 1:30:50Speaker 2: for one thing, we spent like forty minutes just talking
- 1:30:52Speaker 2: about the stuff we had done the previous week. So yes,
- 1:30:57Speaker 2: what you get you get hour and a half long episodes. Now,
- 1:30:59Speaker 2: I guess I hope you're I hope you're having.
- 1:31:02Speaker 1: Till we stop watching, until we stop watching.
- 1:31:04Speaker 2: Stuff, yeah, or until until we get like a week
- 1:31:06Speaker 2: where absolutely nothing happens. We do not, by the way,
- 1:31:08Speaker 2: I should say, I do not know yet if we
- 1:31:11Speaker 2: will have an episode next week, because I'll be celebrating
- 1:31:15Speaker 2: my birthday and I'll be heading out of town, and
- 1:31:19Speaker 2: so I don't know if I'll have the chance to
- 1:31:23Speaker 2: record and edit a show before that happens.
- 1:31:27Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess Noah, probably, so plan you know, because
- 1:31:31Speaker 1: I know you plan your lives around us releasing these episodes.
- 1:31:34Speaker 1: Plan for no. But then it'll be a happy.
- 1:31:38Speaker 2: Surprise if it is. If it does go out, it
- 1:31:40Speaker 2: will need to be a shorter one, like I get,
- 1:31:43Speaker 2: because editing these things takes time. So uh, that will
- 1:31:46Speaker 2: not it will not be another hour and a half
- 1:31:49Speaker 2: long gab fest.
- 1:31:52Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, that will give people plenty of time to
- 1:31:54Speaker 1: think about things that what they want to ask us, Jonathan.
- 1:31:57Speaker 1: And if they have things what they want to ask us,
- 1:32:00Speaker 1: how would they want to ask us?
- 1:32:02Speaker 2: Well, you're gonna have to journey out into the western
- 1:32:05Speaker 2: frontier and establish yourself a homestead. You're gonna build yourself
- 1:32:10Speaker 2: a home with your own two hands, building that thing
- 1:32:13Speaker 2: from the ground up. You're gonna end up creating a
- 1:32:17Speaker 2: modest little plot of land that you can farm on.
- 1:32:19Speaker 2: Maybe get yourself a couple animals to help provide things
- 1:32:22Speaker 2: like milk or eggs, and probably not the same animals
- 1:32:26Speaker 2: doing that, because that'd be a weird hybrid. If you
- 1:32:29Speaker 2: do figure that out, I want to hear about it.
- 1:32:31Speaker 2: But we haven't gotten that part yet. You're gonna nourish
- 1:32:35Speaker 2: this homestead. You're gonna raise yourself family. You're gonna be
- 1:32:39Speaker 2: mighty proud of them, and you're gonna instill in them
- 1:32:43Speaker 2: the desire for survival and the things in life that
- 1:32:48Speaker 2: you find most deer. And then as soon as anyone
- 1:32:52Speaker 2: even looks at you, you're gonna put forty seven bullets
- 1:32:56Speaker 2: into them with your magic revolver that never any to
- 1:33:00Speaker 2: be reloaded. And when you're done with that, I'm going
- 1:33:04Speaker 2: to step up behind you and say, they were just
- 1:33:06Speaker 2: delivering your mail. What was your question? And you can
- 1:33:09Speaker 2: ask me. It's probably not going to go well for you,
- 1:33:12Speaker 2: but you can ask me.
- 1:33:13Speaker 1: Then yeah, And if that's just seems like so much
- 1:33:18Speaker 1: work in the hot summer sun. You can reach out
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- 1:34:09Speaker 1: got to stop drinking water during these longer episodes cast
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