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DIDDY VERDICT WATCH: It's All Down to 12 Jurors · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. We are in a verdict.
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  Speaker 2: Watch here at Crime Stories as we wait for the
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  Speaker 2: Shaw Andcrims jury to hand down a verdict.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go straight to the courthouse.
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  Speaker 2: Standing by Lauren Conlin, investigative reporter, our host of Pop
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  Speaker 2: Crime TV. Lauren, thank you for being with us. What
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  Speaker 2: exactly happened?
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  Speaker 3: Mark Agnifolo's closing argument had a much different style than
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  Speaker 3: the government's. He spoke to the jury kind of like
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  Speaker 3: he was talking to a friend. He really thanked them
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  Speaker 3: for their time. And his first really big statement here
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  Speaker 3: was this case or this trial is the tale of
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  Speaker 3: two trials, told by the mouths of the witnesses, text messages,
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  Speaker 3: videos and evidence.
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  Speaker 4: That's one trial. The second trial is different.
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  Speaker 3: The second trial is told by the mouths of the prosecutors.
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  Speaker 3: And he also went on to say that this case
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  Speaker 3: is so very badly exaggerated. What do you see from evidence?
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  Speaker 3: You see personal use of drugs, You see personal nights
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  Speaker 3: with girlfriends, nothing else. And the prosecutors have charged this
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  Speaker 3: man with the most complicated charge on the.
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  Speaker 4: Books here Rico.
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  Speaker 3: So he again he goes into a lot of different
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  Speaker 3: detail and he goes out of order a bit with
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  Speaker 3: the charges. He went over the kidnapping predicate and then
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  Speaker 3: skipped over to the arson predicate before he finished the
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  Speaker 3: kidnapping predicate. So I think for some of us it
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  Speaker 3: was a little tough to follow. But and really the
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  Speaker 3: points he was trying to make on a lot of
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  Speaker 3: these for the kidnapping, for example, he really tried to
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  Speaker 3: disprove Capricorn Clark saying that Sean Colmes had a gun,
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  Speaker 3: and he said, look, I'll give you five reasons why
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  Speaker 3: he didn't have a gun, and the biggest, the biggest
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  Speaker 3: re here is why would he have a gun? You know,
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  Speaker 3: Capricorn Clark didn't need a gun to go with Shawn Colmes.
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  Speaker 3: She said she had a crush on him. And he
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  Speaker 3: also said the biggest reason was actually because kid Cutty
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  Speaker 3: on the stand testified that when Capricorn called him, she
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  Speaker 3: never said that there was a gun, and that would
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  Speaker 3: be really important.
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  Speaker 4: He also brought up the fact that she told.
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  Speaker 3: Lauren London on the phone she wanted to escape the car,
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  Speaker 3: but she was scared of mountain lions.
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  Speaker 4: Not the gun, but mountain lions.
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  Speaker 3: He also went pretty pretty hard on Cassie. He admitted
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  Speaker 3: the domestic violence he said, yes, that is awful and
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  Speaker 3: this was a regrettable action. I'm paraphrasing, but he also said,
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  Speaker 3: you know, if you're looking at this case, who's the
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  Speaker 3: winner here? Cassie's sitting on thirty million dollars and Sean
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  Speaker 3: Colmes is in jail. He also said that Cassie really
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  Speaker 3: was Sean Colmes's match and that she knew what she
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  Speaker 3: was doing at certain times when she was dating kid Cutty.
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  Speaker 3: At the same time, he said, you know, Cassie, kid
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  Speaker 3: Cutty said that Cassie played us both and that's that now.
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  Speaker 3: He also he also talked about the serteam search and
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  Speaker 3: he was extremely sarcastic in this and he said, ooh,
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  Speaker 3: look at all the baby oil they seized. The world
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  Speaker 3: is a better place, the streets are safer because of
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  Speaker 3: all of this astroblide, and the jury seemed to be
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  Speaker 3: laughing a bit and smiling here. What else, Oh, he
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  Speaker 3: talked about how the domestic violence that Cassie experienced at
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  Speaker 3: the Intercontinental Hotel. He actually said that you know this,
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  Speaker 3: this is a misdemeanor here and the government actually had
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  Speaker 3: an objection to this during the break and said, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they misstated the law and ag Nicholo said, look, all
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying to.
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  Speaker 4: Say here is that this is a state charge. Is
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  Speaker 4: this is not federal.
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  Speaker 3: Additionally, during the break, Maureen Comi did also raise two
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  Speaker 3: other issues she had besides misstating the law. She she
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  Speaker 3: cited that there was a time during the kidnapping discussion
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  Speaker 3: that Mark Agniffolo looked at the jury and said, why
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  Speaker 3: would the government, why would they why would they charge
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  Speaker 3: him with this? Why would they do this? Well, Comey said,
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  Speaker 3: he's not charged with kidnapping. This is a predicate act,
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  Speaker 3: onder Rico, and he misstated that. And also she kind
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  Speaker 3: of said, you know, it's it's not the jury's job
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  Speaker 3: to surmise over what he was charged with. It's their
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  Speaker 3: job to decide whether or not that he's guilty. Mark
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  Speaker 3: Agniffolo said, you know, I think it's fair to that
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  Speaker 3: I am sarcastic, you know, I will tie everything together.
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  Speaker 3: But initially the judge decided that he would give these
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  Speaker 3: instructions right when the jury returned, although Alexander Shapiros argued
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  Speaker 3: that these instructions for the jury to disregard Mark Agnifolo
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  Speaker 3: asking them why the prosecutors charged Sean Colmes with kidnapping.
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  Speaker 3: They asked that these instructions should be given after he's finished.
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  Speaker 3: How the judge disagreed, worrying Comby disagreed, and he gave
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  Speaker 3: them immediately when the jury returned. He said, I will
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  Speaker 3: give the charging instructions later. You follow what I say.
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  Speaker 3: You know this is clearly you shouldn't be profit or basically,
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  Speaker 3: the defense doesn't have the right to ask you why
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  Speaker 3: you think someone was charged. Again, he didn't say that,
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  Speaker 3: I am paraphrasing, but it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was a moment.
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  Speaker 4: It did feel like he was getting scolded.
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  Speaker 2: The trial that has taken weeks culminates with closing arguments.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just revisit what happened.
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  Speaker 2: The raids by the Feds by HSI Homeland Security investigators.
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  Speaker 2: Much of the PC probable cause was gleaned from multiple
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  Speaker 2: lawsuits filed against Combs.
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  Speaker 1: Now that's not just from what we're learning.
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  Speaker 2: Combs's own lawyer spoke out in a very unfortunate statement
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  Speaker 2: for Combs, you never reveal your thinking prior to a trial,
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  Speaker 2: but the lawyer did. What are they saying that all
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  Speaker 2: these victims are lying? I mean, think about it. No
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  Speaker 2: one wants to see the demise of a superstar, but
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  Speaker 2: our superstars to be held above the law, because I
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  Speaker 2: say no, this is what we know happened.
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  Speaker 1: Listen to Sidney Summer crime Online.
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  Speaker 5: Large teams of law enforcement, led by Homeland Security investigators
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  Speaker 5: rated three homes belonging to Sean Diddy Combs in Los
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  Speaker 5: Angeles and Miami as part of a sex trafficking investigation
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  Speaker 5: stemming from accusations leveled against Combs in five separate lawsuits
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  Speaker 5: brought against him. The latest suit, filed in February by
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  Speaker 5: music producer Rodney Lilrod Jones, details frequent drug use, of shooting,
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  Speaker 5: and several accounts of sex assault while working with Combs
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  Speaker 5: on the Love album.
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  Speaker 1: But there's more, and I can tell you this much.
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  Speaker 2: When the fans roll up and armored vehicles wearing kevlar,
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  Speaker 2: that's not good for you.
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  Speaker 1: That's not good at all. We're hearing a lot of
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  Speaker 1: whining this morning by.
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  Speaker 2: The defense about, oh, they messed up the inside of
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  Speaker 2: his house.
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  Speaker 1: Boohoo. Listen to Dave Matt Crime Online.
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  Speaker 6: In the seventy three page document, Jones claims that Combs
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  Speaker 6: forced him to solicit sex workers and perform sex acts
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  Speaker 6: with them as Combs looked on. Jones also alleges the
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  Speaker 6: rapper through parties he called freak offs, during which underage
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  Speaker 6: girls and sex workers were given lace drinks and assaulted.
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  Speaker 6: Comb's son Justin. Producer Stevie Jay, and associate Brendan Paul
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  Speaker 6: allegedly supplied the women in drugs for the parties. The
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  Speaker 6: suit goes on to say that Comb's access to major celebrities, athletes,
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  Speaker 6: and even British royals such as Prince Harry gave him
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  Speaker 6: and his followers legitimacy.
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  Speaker 2: With me an all star panel to make sense of
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  Speaker 2: what we know right now, but for a straight out.
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  Speaker 2: To Kila Brantley, joining US investigative reporter dailymail dot com,
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  Speaker 2: cal thank you for being with us. Tell me what
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  Speaker 2: happened because we saw simultaneous raids. A lot has been
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  Speaker 2: made of that. Hold on, just a second kill one.
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  Speaker 2: Let me go to Nima Romani joining US high profile
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  Speaker 2: lawyer and more importantly, former federal prosecutor, a president of
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  Speaker 2: the West Coast Trial Lawyers Association and author of Harvard
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  Speaker 2: to hashtag Nima, thank you for being with us. A
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  Speaker 2: lot has been made and a lot of whining and
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  Speaker 2: crying because there were multiple raids that went.
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  Speaker 1: Down simultaneously, Boo who.
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  Speaker 2: The reason that happens is so when you get raised
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  Speaker 2: in LA, you can't call your peeps in Miami. Go quick, quick, quick,
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  Speaker 2: hide one, two, three and four, destroy five, six, seven,
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  Speaker 2: and eight, and ps run for the hills as if
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  Speaker 2: you had seen a monster. That's why it's got to
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  Speaker 2: be very carefully orchestrated and timed, very organized to go
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  Speaker 2: down at the same time for that very reason.
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  Speaker 7: Ni, Nancy, that's exactly right.
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  Speaker 8: And the raid in Los Angeles took place about a
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  Speaker 8: mile from where I'm sitting right now. I live close
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  Speaker 8: to Ditty's home. And you know, I also know Aaron Dyer.
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  Speaker 8: I used to work with him. I respect him, but
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  Speaker 8: I think he's making that argument for the court of
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  Speaker 8: public opinion more than the courtroom.
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  Speaker 7: And you're right, there's three reasons why federal agents go
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  Speaker 7: in and they go aggressively. One, there's always a threat
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  Speaker 7: of violence.
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  Speaker 1: And did he.
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  Speaker 7: Reportedly has a lot of weapons.
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  Speaker 8: Agents need to make sure that no one flees the jurisdiction,
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  Speaker 8: evidence isn't destroyed. That's why the raids are executed simultaneously.
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  Speaker 8: When they are individuals are removed from the home, they're cough,
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  Speaker 8: they're detained. No one was arrested, but Diddy was treated
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  Speaker 8: just like any other criminal defendant or target of an
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  Speaker 8: investigation when these search warrants are executed.
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  Speaker 2: Guys, what do you expect the HSI Homeland Security investigators
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  Speaker 2: to be the minute made and clean up after a search.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not happening, guys.
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  Speaker 2: It's amazing what people will do to hide contraband or evidence.
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  Speaker 1: What evidence am I talking about.
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking about videos, potential videos of underage girls and
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  Speaker 2: boys in the middlesex acts now number one. An underaged
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  Speaker 2: child some jurisdictions under eighteen, some under sixteen, some under fifteen,
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  Speaker 2: cannot consent to sex activity. So even if they appear
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  Speaker 2: to be willing in a video, does anybody remember r Kelly,
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  Speaker 2: for Pete's sake, where he urinated on a teen girl.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not consensual. I don't care what she said
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  Speaker 1: at the time.
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  Speaker 2: Videos that could easily be hidden even if they are
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  Speaker 2: in physical form.
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  Speaker 1: For all I know, they're just on a computer.
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  Speaker 2: That's why every computer, every laptop, every phone, every iPad,
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  Speaker 2: everything has to be seized. Seawancom's listed by the FEDS.
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  Speaker 2: In a luxe hotel in the dark of night now
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  Speaker 2: in federal custody. I mean to see Grace. This is
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  Speaker 2: Prime Stories. Thank you for being with us today.
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  Speaker 9: I'm announcing the unsealing of a three count indictment charging
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  Speaker 9: Shawn Combs with racketeering, conspiracy, sex trafficking, interstate transportation for prostitution.
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  Speaker 9: The indictment alleges that between at least two thousand and
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  Speaker 9: eight and the present Comb's abuse threatened and coerce victims
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  Speaker 9: to fulfill his sexual desires, protect his reputation, and conceal
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  Speaker 9: his conduct. As a legend of the indictment, to carry
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  Speaker 9: out this conduct, Shawn Combs led and participated in a
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  Speaker 9: racketeering conspiracy that used the business empire he controlled to
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  Speaker 9: carry out criminal activity including sex trafficking, force labor, kidnapping, arson, bribery,
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  Speaker 9: and the obstruction of justice.
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  Speaker 2: And we have just gotten our hands on the federal indictment.
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  Speaker 2: But first let's talk about what went down in the
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  Speaker 2: dark of night. Sean Puffy Comb's seen out on the
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  Speaker 2: street in New York just thirty minutes before Fed's break
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  Speaker 2: into his luxury suite at the Park Hyatt Hotel on
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  Speaker 2: fifty seventh Street and arrest Combs. And proceed to shred
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  Speaker 2: that hotel room looking for evidence. Joining me right now
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  Speaker 2: at the hotel just outside the Park Hyatt is crimeonline
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  Speaker 2: dot Com investigative reporter Angelica Martinez. Angelica, thank you for
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  Speaker 2: being with us. Tell me what happened right there?
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  Speaker 10: Yes, Nancy, we are currently outside the high end hotel
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  Speaker 10: in the Park Hyatt Hotel where Sean Puffy Combs was arrested.
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  Speaker 10: He was arrested following a indictment that was returned by
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  Speaker 10: a grand jury.
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  Speaker 2: Guys joining us in Jelica Martinez at the Park Hyatt.
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  Speaker 2: We understand that Fed's pursue it to warrant went into Combs'
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  Speaker 2: room right behind you, up on one of the penthouse
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  Speaker 2: levels and arrested Comes last night. He had no idea
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  Speaker 2: it was about to happen. We've also heard reports the
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  Speaker 2: arrest was to go down at least forty eight seventy
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  Speaker 2: two hours later, but something triggered the FEDS to make
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  Speaker 2: the arrest. Comes actually spotted out on the street and
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  Speaker 2: videoed bsing with fans and friends just before, literally minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Before the FEDS arrested him.
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  Speaker 2: I know they were poised outside the Park Hyatt Hotel
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  Speaker 2: where you're standing right now, Angelica, waiting for him to
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  Speaker 2: come back in with eyes on Sean Puffy comes the
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  Speaker 2: entire evening, Angelica.
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  Speaker 10: Yes, So, Apparently negotiations for Shaw combs surrender had been
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  Speaker 10: in the talk for a while, and like you said, Nancy,
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  Speaker 10: something triggered this arrest. Something happened that caused them to
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  Speaker 10: move it from allegedly later in this week. He was
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  Speaker 10: allegedly arrested right in the lobby, and he was not
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  Speaker 10: expecting according to some.
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  Speaker 2: Sources, Angelica, I think I know what may have prompted
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  Speaker 2: the early arrest.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you're about.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty thirty minutes from Teterborough private airstrip.
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  Speaker 1: Combs has money. You can get on a private.
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  Speaker 2: Plane without a passport, now where you can land without
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  Speaker 2: one as a whole another can of worms. But if
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  Speaker 2: they got win that he was leaving with all of
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  Speaker 2: his money and access to private planes, that's the time
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  Speaker 2: you make the arrest ahead of time. Joining me there
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  Speaker 2: at the Park Hyatt Hotel in the heart of Manhattan, Angelica, Martinez,
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  Speaker 2: let's open it up to the panel. And the last
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  Speaker 2: few moments we caught the lawyer, the defense attorney, Agna Fellow,
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  Speaker 2: and he states his client is going to be released.
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  Speaker 2: Do you really believe that Sean Puffy Combs is going
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  Speaker 2: to get out on bond? Straight out to high profile
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  Speaker 2: lawyer Nima Romani, former federal prosecutor, President West Coast Trial
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  Speaker 2: Lawyers and author of Harvard to Hashtag. He is an
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  Speaker 2: expert in federal law. Nima, thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 2: Quick question regarding bond. Now we know that Combs was
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  Speaker 2: held overnight and he is with the Feds right now.
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  Speaker 1: You know his lawyer is.
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  Speaker 2: Going to make a big play for him to get
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  Speaker 2: out on bond and make a big show, probably walking
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  Speaker 2: along Park Avenue maybe Fifth Avenue, wearing his fur coat
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  Speaker 2: as if he has a worry in the world. Why
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  Speaker 2: do I say that, because when you don't know a horse, Nima,
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  Speaker 2: look at his track record that has been his INMO
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  Speaker 2: since the get go. Hey you're raiding my house, No problem.
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  Speaker 2: I'm out surfing watersports with my family, living it up
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  Speaker 2: with some champagne.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's him.
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  Speaker 2: That's his momo to act like nothing is wrong and
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  Speaker 2: give the illusion of complete innocence and care free crime stories.
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  Speaker 2: With Nancy Grace, we are in a verdict. Watch for
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  Speaker 2: the show andcomers jury to hand down a verdict. Let's
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  Speaker 2: just revisit what happened, pe Daddy.
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  Speaker 11: We saw the video of you brutally beating and kicking
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  Speaker 11: and dragging Cassie, and now you apologize.
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  Speaker 1: Now, apology not accepted. I'll see you in court.
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  Speaker 12: It's so difficult to reflect on the darkest times in
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  Speaker 12: your life. Sometimes you gotta do that. I was, I mean,
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  Speaker 12: I had rock bottom, but I made no excuses. My
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  Speaker 12: behavior on that video is inexcusable. I take full responsibility
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  Speaker 12: for my ashes in that video.
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  Speaker 7: I'm so sorry, but.
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  Speaker 12: I'm committed to be a better managent every day. I'm
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  Speaker 12: not asking for forgiveness.
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  Speaker 7: I'm truly sorry.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but he looks like he's
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  Speaker 2: reading to me all that I'm sorry, technical legal term
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  Speaker 2: b S.
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  Speaker 1: He's not sorry he did it. He's sorry he got caught.
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  Speaker 1: Have you seen the video? Now?
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  Speaker 2: How is it at that time no charges were filed
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  Speaker 2: and you know hotel security saw the whole thing. Do
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  Speaker 2: you believe his apology? Is it not a day late
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  Speaker 2: and a dollar short? Well, apparently other people agree with me.
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  Speaker 1: Listen.
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  Speaker 5: According to Ernest Owens, Sean Ditty Combs is only apologizing
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  Speaker 5: because he got caught. Owens calls Comb's apology another pathetic move,
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  Speaker 5: pointing out that Combs does not acknowledge Cassie Ventura by
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  Speaker 5: name or directly apologize to her. Combs has previously denied
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  Speaker 5: Ventura's allegations repeatedly, but this latest cought in the act
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  Speaker 5: video has changed his tune. Owen says it is hard
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  Speaker 5: to take anything Diddy says seriously following several prior written
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  Speaker 5: attacks on his accusers.
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  Speaker 1: Now what written attacks are we talking about? I got
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  Speaker 1: to tell you something.
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  Speaker 2: There are a lot of criminal defense attorneys out there.
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  Speaker 2: This one will win your case, Ben Broffman. That's where
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  Speaker 2: you go when there's nowhere to go, Ben Broffman. He's
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  Speaker 2: representing Sean Comb's aka Ditty.
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  Speaker 1: Listen.
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  Speaker 5: Cassie Ventura's lawsuit against Ditty includes a very specific event
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  Speaker 5: from March of twenty sixteen, where Ventura alleges that Ditty
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  Speaker 5: became extremely intoxicated and punch Ventura in the face, giving
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  Speaker 5: her a black eye. Did He's lawyer, Ben Braffman tells
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  Speaker 5: people in a statement that comes vehemently denies these offensive
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  Speaker 5: and outrageous allegations and alleges that Ventura is filing the
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  Speaker 5: lawsuit after first demanding thirty million dollars where she would
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  Speaker 5: write a book about their relationship. Brafman says Ventura is
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  Speaker 5: seeking a payday.
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  Speaker 2: Now, remember the lawyer is the mouthpiece for the defendant.
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  Speaker 2: The lawyer doesn't say anything that the defendant doesn't want said.
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  Speaker 2: So when you hear Brafman saying, oh, Cassie Ventira, is
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  Speaker 2: she just wants money? Nothing happened to her? This is bs.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No, We've seen the video and all of his denying
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  Speaker 2: and claiming, and remember this is important.
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  Speaker 1: That's what he says about all the women that are
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  Speaker 1: claiming he abused them. They all want a payday.
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  Speaker 2: I don't believe that anymore. With me an all star
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  Speaker 2: panel to makes sense of what we know right now.
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  Speaker 2: But for straight out to Keela Brantley, investigative reporter dailymail
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  Speaker 2: dot com on the case from the beginning. You know,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: I think this is just the beginning, Kila, But bring
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: me up to date as of right now.
• 20:15
  Speaker 13: Absolutely, Nancy, And as you said, Ditty's only apologizing right
• 20:19
  Speaker 13: now because he got caught. Everyone sees right through that apology,
• 20:23
  Speaker 13: including Cassie Ventura, who released a statement via her lawyer
• 20:27
  Speaker 13: who called Ditty's apology pathetic. Essentially, he's saying that he's
• 20:32
  Speaker 13: only our Cassie is saying that he's only compelled to
• 20:34
  Speaker 13: speak out now because of this damning evidence. And as
• 20:38
  Speaker 13: you very well may know that abusers, it's not just
• 20:41
  Speaker 13: an isolated incident. We can assume that this has happened before.
• 20:46
  Speaker 13: Cassie did speak about this exact incident back in her
• 20:50
  Speaker 13: lawsuit from last fall. She said that there was an
• 20:53
  Speaker 13: incident at a hotel where he came into the hallway
• 20:56
  Speaker 13: abused her, and that Diddy allegedly paid fifty thousan dollars
• 21:00
  Speaker 13: to the hotel to get the video and for it
• 21:03
  Speaker 13: to never be released. Obviously, now we know CNN has
• 21:06
  Speaker 13: now had that video released it to the world, which
• 21:08
  Speaker 13: now compelled Diddy to apologize.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Keala Brantley, I think you're exactly correct.
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: Listen, Cassie Ventura escaped Shawn Combs by getting on the
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: elevator at the Intercontinental Hotel, leaving the hotel and going
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: to her own apartment. At her residence, she fears Combs
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: will be even angrier at her for running away, so
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: Ventura returns to the hotel intent on apologizing to Combs.
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: As she returns, hotel security staff urged her to get
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: back in the cab and go home. They've seen the
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: security footage of Comb's beating Ventura and throwing glass vases
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: at her in the hotel hallway. In her lawsuit against Combs,
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: she claims he pays the hotel fifty thousand dollars for
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: footage of the hallway assault, again.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Joining me an all star panel.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: In addition to Kialab Brantley from dailymail dot com straight
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: out to Sam d'ordulian, sex assault lawyer and former LA
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: County six crimes felony prosecutor, founder of the Dordullion Law Group, Sam,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: thank you for being with us. You know, before the
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: video was pervasive. No matter where you go, there's a
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: camera on you. Very Typically the defense would say you
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: can't prove that. Now we have a video. So the
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: fallback is, let's say the video was doctored, the video
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: was tampered with, or I'm sorry, I'm a different man now.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: I'm praying for forgiveness. I'm praying to be a better man.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: I got counseling.
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  Speaker 14: Really, you know what's disgusting, Nancy, is that's what you
• 22:34
  Speaker 14: hear all the time is that I'm sorry. But why
• 22:37
  Speaker 14: did he have to go and attack the victim in
• 22:40
  Speaker 14: this particular case. If he truly took responsibility for what
• 22:43
  Speaker 14: he did, if he truly was disgusted as he claimed
• 22:46
  Speaker 14: in his video his supposed apology, then why did he
• 22:51
  Speaker 14: call her a liar to in the public. Why did
• 22:54
  Speaker 14: he say she's just looking for a payday? And only
• 22:57
  Speaker 14: when he got caught now all of a sudden, he's sorry.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Joining me out of Florida.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: A high profile private investigator, former Federal Task Force, US
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Department of Justice, also with the DEA, joining me. Robert
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Crispin from Crispin Special Investigations. Robert, I'm sure you having
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: dealt with this same scenario many many times as a
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: PI and with the FEDS.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: People pay off hotel staff all the time.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: And right now the word we're getting from inside the
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Diddy camp is that they are fast and furious trying
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: to make sure other video surveillance will not emerge.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: What about it, Crispin? How easy is that to do?
• 23:43
  Speaker 15: Well?
• 23:43
  Speaker 16: You know, listen, money talks, and this is probably not
• 23:46
  Speaker 16: the first time it's happened in his camp. And if
• 23:48
  Speaker 16: you go back to yours. The allegations of they paid
• 23:50
  Speaker 16: fifty thousand dollars for the hotel security to get that
• 23:53
  Speaker 16: video out there in La So, I wouldn't doubt that
• 23:56
  Speaker 16: their fast and fury is going after every single one
• 23:58
  Speaker 16: of these allegations. We're seeing one of these victims that
• 24:01
  Speaker 16: they know of their back covering their tracks. It's an
• 24:05
  Speaker 16: old trick. It's money talks, and people like money. So
• 24:09
  Speaker 16: there's a lot of people that will do some bad
• 24:11
  Speaker 16: things to cover some bad things.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Sadly enough, so you think it's relatively easy to pay
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: off hotel security or really any security get rid of surveillance.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: It gets quote taped over, it gets lost, nobody can
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: find it. It happens over and over and over again.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: But the kicker is they are not at a hotel
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: security office. They are not under the same duty as
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: officers of the court.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: It's their private video.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: They want to tape over it, they can unless somehow they.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Realize they're hiding evidence.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: And why would they tape over it if they didn't
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: know they were doing it for a nefarious reason?
• 24:59
  Speaker 16: Crispin, it's tampering with evidence. Cart Launch, it's tampering with evidence.
• 25:03
  Speaker 16: And anybody who gets involved in this case moving forward,
• 25:06
  Speaker 16: who already has knowledge? I mean, how do you not
• 25:09
  Speaker 16: have knowledge of this case? And you find a prosecutor
• 25:12
  Speaker 16: or law enforcement or an agent who can prove through
• 25:15
  Speaker 16: text messages or undercover surveillances or anything, that you paid
• 25:19
  Speaker 16: somebody off to get a video, you're catching an obstruction
• 25:22
  Speaker 16: charge and you're doing a and you're also catching a
• 25:25
  Speaker 16: tampering with evidence charge. Now, back in twenty sixteen when
• 25:28
  Speaker 16: they got that video, none of this probably got reported
• 25:31
  Speaker 16: yet that's why they work very fast. And they threw
• 25:35
  Speaker 16: fifty thousand dollars at these people to get that video,
• 25:37
  Speaker 16: thinking it's not out there, thinking that nobody count their
• 25:40
  Speaker 16: own copy and everybody keeps a copy of their own videos.
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: Trust me to you KILB.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Brantley joining US investigative reporter dailymail dot com. Fifty grand
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: that's like ten dollars to me. It's like nothing to Combs.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, what is his net worth?
• 25:55
  Speaker 13: Well, as Cassie said in the lawsuit, that the example
• 25:59
  Speaker 13: of fifty thousand dollars was absolutely nothing to him, and
• 26:03
  Speaker 13: it just shows his power and his influence. Now reportedly
• 26:06
  Speaker 13: did he's a billionaire and he has so many different
• 26:10
  Speaker 13: lines he has Sean John, he has Revolt, and not
• 26:13
  Speaker 13: only is he a music mogul, he's a fashion mogul
• 26:16
  Speaker 13: and has been a legend in this industry. So his
• 26:19
  Speaker 13: net worth is estimated around a billion dollars. Now, with
• 26:22
  Speaker 13: all these legal blows, who knows how much it's going
• 26:24
  Speaker 13: to go down to.
• 26:25
  Speaker 9: Holmes allegedly planned and controlled the sex performances, which he
• 26:29
  Speaker 9: called freak off.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Sean Puffy comes spending the night behind bars and whining
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: incessantly through his lawyers. We are analyzing evidence that has
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: come out in court. You know what, after the judge
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: heard this, he had a snowballs chance and h double
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: l of getting bond.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: I mean you gotta know this.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: All the judges they all have lunch together in a
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: big room sometimes the law library. There are court clerks
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: are in there. They see each other day in day out.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: How is this judge gonna look at the other judges
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: in the eye and go, yeah, I gave Diddy a bond.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: That was me in there because I don't have a spine. Now,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: listen to this, This is what I learned in court. Now,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: we've all seen the Cassie Ventira video of her running
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: away from Sean Combs in public in the hotel corridor.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: He comes out practically button naked, wearing nothing but a towel.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: He doesn't care. That doesn't bother him, So.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Entitled chases her down and beats the h el out
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: of her, kicking her, kicking her, kicking or dragging her.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Listen to this we have gotten a hold of through
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: prosecutors texts that he immediately sends her Listen to this
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: to Cassie, call me here. I got six kids, yo,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: please call I'm surrounded. You're gonna abandon me all alone.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: You're gonna abandon me all alone. This as we are
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: learning that Cassie Ventura was running from a freak off. Yeah,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: there was a sex worker in the room with Diddy,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: and I guarantee you he was trying to film it,
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: the sex worker forcing Cassie to have sex. The defendant,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: according to prosecutor Emily Johnson, knew he had done something
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: that could elicit police response.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Well, that's a nice way of saying he getting busted. Okay.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: So she texts back, saying she still had horrible bruising
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: from the assault. Says, I'm not a rag doll. Now
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: I want to point out that they are. Now. The
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: defense attorney desperate is now saying Cassie Ventura was running away.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Because she was jealous.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: She was jealous because she looked at Combs's phone and
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: saw he texted another woman. Right, She's so jealous she
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: runs out barefoot, trying to get away from him and
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: the sex worker that was still in the room.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Let's just start with that.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, what judge, and he's right his or her right
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: mind can go sit down to his tune of his
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: sandwich and eat lunch with the other judges looking at
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: him going, yeah, we know what you did.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: You let this a hole at all bond listen to this.
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: Sean Combs is back inside the walls of Metropolitan Detention
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: Center after US District Judge Andrew Carter Junior denied Comb's
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: appeal of his Raman may Judge Robin F. Tronowski initially
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: denied the rapper's bail Tuesday, saying that Combs was a
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: danger quote, I don't know that you can trust yourself
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: not to harm people. The defense proposed that Combs live
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: at home home alone in Florida, monitored by a twenty
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: four to seven security team. Combs offered to give up
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: any access to his cell phone or Internet. In the end,
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: Judge Carter Junior agreed with Judge Tarnowsky that quote, there
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: is no condition or combination of conditions to ensure he
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: will not obstruct justice or tamper with witnesses.
• 30:18
  Speaker 17: Music mogul and rap star Sean Diddy Combs hit with
• 30:22
  Speaker 17: lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit, but attorneys claim no matter
• 30:28
  Speaker 17: how many suits are filed, Combs is innocent, innocent.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, He's getting paid plenty of money to say that,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: but the defense attorney is completely deluded. He is even
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: claiming that Combs, Shawn Combs Diddy has had to go
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: into therapy because of the allegations made against him. Shawn
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Comes is now the victim.
• 31:00
  Speaker 18: For bail appeal hearing Agnifilo submits an amended bail package,
• 31:04
  Speaker 18: Combs agrees to have no communication with women outside of
• 31:07
  Speaker 18: family members and the mothers of his children. To have
• 31:09
  Speaker 18: no contact with known grand jury witnesses referring to victim
• 31:13
  Speaker 18: Ie Cassandra Ventura, to use a private intelligence agency to
• 31:18
  Speaker 18: monitor him twenty four to seven Stage intelligence will ensure
• 31:21
  Speaker 18: he has no cell phone or internet access, administer weekly
• 31:25
  Speaker 18: drug tests and turn over a daily Visitor's log.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Are they crazy with me? Is IRV Brandt say? Former
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Senior Inspector US Marshall Service.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Those are the guys that go all around the.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: World to bring back felons for trial or that have absconded.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Author of a whole.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Series of books about Solo, Last One, Forever Solo, Not
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: of the Dragon. Hey, IRV, really, they're going to have
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: the same security guards protect Diddy that would take these
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: women to high out so they could wait till their
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: bruises healed before they went into public.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: The same ones that got.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Sex workers from all over the world the country to
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: come in and rate women that had been drugged on video.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: That those guys, and they're also going to perform weekly
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: urine tests.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: You want to tell me they can't go take a
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: leak in a cup and put the name Sean Combs
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: on it.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Really, are they insane? Have you ever heard anything like
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: this bond package?
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: I have not, Nancy.
• 32:27
  Speaker 19: And it's not surprising that the defense was doing everything
• 32:31
  Speaker 19: they could to convince the judge because the burden shifted
• 32:36
  Speaker 19: from the prosecution to the defense because of the nature
• 32:40
  Speaker 19: of the charges and how much time that he was facing.
• 32:43
  Speaker 19: So It's obvious that the defense was just coming up
• 32:48
  Speaker 19: with anything that they could think of, any sorts of
• 32:52
  Speaker 19: conditions that might convince the judge to release them on bond,
• 32:57
  Speaker 19: and it just didn't work.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace verdict watch, let's just revisit
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: the trial. What happened Diddy's ten million dollars defense starts
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: this as we learn the jury is in fear of
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: sitting on the Diddy trial.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: being with us.
• 33:30
  Speaker 18: Cassie Ventura is set to take the stand, with prosecutors
• 33:33
  Speaker 18: expected to highlight a twenty sixteen hotel assault caught on video.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: This trial of Sean Comes started early in a Manhattan courtroom.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: A joining man all star panel to make sense of
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: what we know right now. Straight out to Lauren Conlin,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: joining US co host Pop Crime TV. Lauren, thank you
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: for being with us. Tell me about what happened first?
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: Today, pord began with Didty asking the judge for more
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: water or the judge said something like do you have
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: enough water?
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: And he said, could I have some Warrior on her?
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: Diddy appeared to be wearing a light cream colored sweater,
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: which I thought was a great choice for a defendant.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: He had his glasses on.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: He was looking through some paperwork at the beginning of
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: the morning, and he would turn around to smile at
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: his mom and wave to his family who were in
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: the front row. He gave a thumbs up at one point.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: I actually saw Janis Colmbs, his mother, in the lobby.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: She was wearing an all black suit a black purse,
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: and she looked like she was going to a funeral.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: To be honest, I also want to point out that
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: when the jury walked in, Diddy did not take his
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: eyes off of them.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: He watched their every move.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: This, as we are learning, the jury is actually in fear.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: In fact, the judge was afraid to impanel a jury
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: on Friday, thinking they would back out with cold fate
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: over the weekend.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Listen.
• 34:58
  Speaker 20: The original plan was for selection to be completed on Friday,
• 35:02
  Speaker 20: but Diddy's lawyers asked for a delay, raising concerns more
• 35:06
  Speaker 20: jurors would get cold feet. Between Friday and Monday, the
• 35:10
  Speaker 20: court received an email from one potential juror asking to
• 35:13
  Speaker 20: be left off the panel for issues of personal well being.
• 35:16
  Speaker 20: According to the Combs team, prosecutors strongly opposed the delay.
• 35:21
  Speaker 20: Judge on runs Subramanian agreed with the defense.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Okay to Eric fattis veteran trial lawyer joining me out
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: of the Denver, Colorado jurisdiction partner Varner Fattus elite legal
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: former prosecutor. That's not good when the jury is afraid
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: to be in the box, the jury box.
• 35:40
  Speaker 21: Yeah, yikes. I mean, this is a high profile case.
• 35:42
  Speaker 21: There is a ton at stake, and Nancy, I'm Cyril
• 35:45
  Speaker 21: would call a judge actually declined to give Diddy bond
• 35:48
  Speaker 21: because there were concerns that he was engaged in witness
• 35:51
  Speaker 21: tampering or witness intimidation. Those same concerns could translate to
• 35:56
  Speaker 21: this jury and it could cause them to get old
• 35:59
  Speaker 21: feed or would otherwise be considering that when they're deciding
• 36:02
  Speaker 21: the case which savesen Broke.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: It wouldn't be the first time that a jury had
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: been harassed, put in fear, or tampered with.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Listen.
• 36:11
  Speaker 20: John Gotti earned the nickname Teflon Dawn after he was
• 36:14
  Speaker 20: acquitted in multiple trials, likely due to jury tampering and
• 36:18
  Speaker 20: witness intimidation. This seems to be confirmed when a juror
• 36:22
  Speaker 20: who helped to quit Gody in a racketeering case, was
• 36:25
  Speaker 20: convicted of taking a bribe. Jimmy Hoffel was also charged
• 36:29
  Speaker 20: with unlawfully, wilfully and knowingly conspiring with six co conspirators
• 36:34
  Speaker 20: to influence members of a jury. He was accused of
• 36:37
  Speaker 20: offering ten thousand dollars to the families of two jurors
• 36:41
  Speaker 20: for an acquittal vote, and offering to get the police
• 36:44
  Speaker 20: husband of another juror a promotion. Clarence Darrow was in
• 36:47
  Speaker 20: the company of his chief investigator when the two men
• 36:50
  Speaker 20: were arrested for bribery. Darrow was defending brothers on bombing charges.
• 36:54
  Speaker 20: Police say Darrow's investigator passed four thousand dollars to a
• 36:58
  Speaker 20: prospective jury member for a not guilty vote.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: You would have to be living under a.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Rock in a cave on the other side of the
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: world not to know that. There are allegations that Sean
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Combs ordered a hit our murder on Tupac Shaker Listen
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Dwayne Keethy.
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: D Davis claims credit for Tupac's murder on beet and
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: in his memoir, he says Puffy Combs wanted Knight and
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: Tupac's heads after their disc track hit them up. When
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: Davis offers to carry out the hits. Combs agrees to
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: pay him one million dollars. Davis Anderson, Terrence Brown, and
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: DeAndre Smith stake out the club where Shakur is performing,
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: but Tupac's a no show. Driving down the strip, they
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: spot Night and Tupac stopped in traffic. Brown flips a
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: U turn in their white Cadillac. Davis passes Anderson the gun,
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: and Anderson leans over Smith to shoot Tupac.
• 37:50
  Speaker 7: We wiped you, oh quick?
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 37:54
  Speaker 7: Who brought up the amount of one million dollars?
• 37:59
  Speaker 21: Ed Puffy Biggie or involved in any of these conversations?
• 38:03
  Speaker 15: You know?
• 38:04
  Speaker 7: As always, just.
• 38:07
  Speaker 21: This is all you do.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: It straight out to Robert Crispin, joining US private investigator,
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: former Federal Task Force officer US d o J also
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: with Deea now at Crispin Special Investigations. Crispin, thank you
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: for being with us your state. Out in front of
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Ditty's home there in Florida where it all started with
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: the bust. I want to hear how the neighbors are
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: taking today. But more important, you think if this jury
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: has seen the Cassie video and they all have an
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: opinion on it, you think they don't know about the
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: hit on Tupac's you caur.
• 38:45
  Speaker 16: Yeah, that's going to kind of tie it in, isn't
• 38:47
  Speaker 16: it And they're going to wonder, like, boy, that's kind
• 38:50
  Speaker 16: of interesting. But you know, Nancy, I'm coming to you
• 38:53
  Speaker 16: live out in front of Diddy's house here in Star
• 38:57
  Speaker 16: Island in Miami Beach, and if today is any indication
• 39:01
  Speaker 16: of what's going on in Diddy's world as his trial starts,
• 39:05
  Speaker 16: it's a dark, rainy day. The neighbors are really happy
• 39:11
  Speaker 16: that there's no more attention, there's no more late parties,
• 39:15
  Speaker 16: three four day benders. The drugs in that white gay
• 39:20
  Speaker 16: behind me. That's where the Feds went in with their
• 39:22
  Speaker 16: shirt shard. That's where the drugs came out. That's where
• 39:25
  Speaker 16: the electronic evidence came out. That's where everything started to
• 39:28
  Speaker 16: unfold for Diddy before he got indicted.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: I just find it very difficult to believe that the
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: jury has seen the Cassie video already, which they're going
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: to see a trial anyway, that they don't know about
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: the hit on Tupac Shakur, Which gets to my point,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Crispin that GURRRS one jurrar backed out and said he
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: was afraid for his own and his family's safety, got
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: cold feet and wanted it off the panel.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: And that's the one that would speak out.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Have you ever had a case where jurors or witnesses
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: were actually afraid?
• 40:03
  Speaker 16: Oh? Absolutely, And that's a very real fear because if
• 40:08
  Speaker 16: he's fould guilty, revenge is best served on a cold plate,
• 40:12
  Speaker 16: and these people are going to be looking over their
• 40:14
  Speaker 16: shoulder all the time. In drug cases in Miami, same thing.
• 40:18
  Speaker 16: You want to sit there and look a drug lord
• 40:21
  Speaker 16: in the eye and convict him when you have a wife, kids.
• 40:26
  Speaker 16: These are everyday people that get jury subpoenas and end
• 40:29
  Speaker 16: up sitting on these high profile cases, and there's a
• 40:32
  Speaker 16: lot at stake when you hit either that guilty or
• 40:36
  Speaker 16: that not guilty box on that jury form. That's an issue,
• 40:41
  Speaker 16: and I would be afraid.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: To Doctor Bethany Marshall joining us a high profile PSYCHOANALYSTID
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: of the LA jurisdiction, author of deal Breaker. You can
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: sing her currently on peacock and find her at doctor
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Bethany Marshall dot com. Doctor Bethany, I think that the
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: jury wants to do the right thing. I think in
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: their heart of hearts they want to serve on the jury.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Yes, they want to.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Be impartial, but the reality is, when you have a
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: family at home, children, right, it's not just about you
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: any more. I've had jurrrs on gang relatedy cases, gang
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: cases say right up front, I've heard about the case.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: I can't sit on this jury.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: I've got children, they're very they were in inner city Atlanta,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Fulton County. I don't know if they're being upfront in
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: the ditty trial, but I do know that one juror
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: set I want off the panel because I'm afraid.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think they want to do the right thing.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: But when push comes to shove and it's going home
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: to their children and their family, I don't know.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: What do you think? This is real?
• 41:44
  Speaker 21: Sure?
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Very often, Bethany, you hear me say that's bs. That's
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: just in the movies, that's in a book. You know,
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: that's on a TV series, that doesn't happen in real life.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: This actually happens. I know for a fact, Nancy, this
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: is no fairy tale, This is no novel. This is
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: a real life story. And yeah, U drawers want to
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: do their civic duty. I think we all do.
• 42:03
  Speaker 22: But as I tell my patients of my practice, Your
• 42:06
  Speaker 22: duty is always to your family first, above all your
• 42:11
  Speaker 22: spouse and your children. Your job is to keep your
• 42:14
  Speaker 22: family safe. If you abdicate that role, who is going
• 42:17
  Speaker 22: to be there for them? And you know, not only
• 42:20
  Speaker 22: are the jurors at risk, the judge as at risk.
• 42:24
  Speaker 22: You and I have covered many cases where judges and
• 42:27
  Speaker 22: their families have been targeted. And then what about when
• 42:30
  Speaker 22: the case is over, These jurors forever will be known
• 42:35
  Speaker 22: as the people who either vindicated or convicted p. Ditty
• 42:39
  Speaker 22: And there are people on both sides that will love
• 42:42
  Speaker 22: and more importantly hate them. And finally, Nancy, what about
• 42:47
  Speaker 22: all those celebrities joining us?
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: In additional Lauren Colin at the courthouse, Sidney Sunmer joining us.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Crime stories, investigative report are also on the case. Sidney,
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: I understand that first thing this morning comes in demands
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: a whole nother picture of water. I wonder why he's
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: got dry mouth. But that said, his mother, his mother,
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Jani's Combs also came into the courtroom. In the past,
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: she's been very flamboyant in her dress, but she's taking
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: a page out of Shawn Combs's playbook, and it dressed
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: like she's going to a funeral, Sydney.
• 43:22
  Speaker 15: That's right, Nancy dressed all in black, and Colme's mom
• 43:26
  Speaker 15: isn't the only family member in attendance today. Six of
• 43:30
  Speaker 15: his children are also in the courtroom and they're dressed
• 43:32
  Speaker 15: very similarly. All of them walked in in sunglasses and
• 43:36
  Speaker 15: all of their clothing is black and white.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: They all had on sunglasses in the courtroom.
• 43:42
  Speaker 15: At least since they were walking in.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: I want to go back to the fact that Shawn Combs,
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: that we know of, is laying at ten million dollars
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: for his defense. But your ours in fear back to
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Sidney Summer joining US Crime Stories investigative report.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: This is a big deal, Sydney Sumner.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: We know that one gerar, as I said earlier, asked
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: the judge begged the judge to be taken off the
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: jury panel because he's got a family.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: And got quote cold feet.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: But I know the defense struck a gerr that said
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: they had seen the Cassie video and that comes looked
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: angry and hostile.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: They struck that gurrr.
• 44:22
  Speaker 15: Yes, that juror is gone. They commented on that video
• 44:26
  Speaker 15: said Combs looks angry and hostile. But the government has
• 44:30
  Speaker 15: struck a candidate who said he heard about the Comb's
• 44:33
  Speaker 15: case on Joe Rogan's podcast. So we've already had a
• 44:37
  Speaker 15: tit for tat.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: As if the jury didn't know about the Tupac Shakur hit,
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: the alleged hit where multiple witnesses say Comes ordered a
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: million dollar hit for Tupac Shakur's.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Head and he got it.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: What about the fact that these jars have seen They've
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: already seen the Cassie Ventura beat down video.
• 44:59
  Speaker 23: Listen, the potential jurors are questioned about their ability to
• 45:02
  Speaker 23: maintain impartiality, an obstacle quickly rears its head the video
• 45:07
  Speaker 23: of Combs attacking Cassie. Numerous potential jurors have seen the
• 45:11
  Speaker 23: video and formed opinions on it. Of those who have
• 45:14
  Speaker 23: watched it, only a few were able to say they
• 45:16
  Speaker 23: did not think it would affect their impartiality.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: The Cassie beat down a video from our friends at CNN.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: We expect that particular version not to be introduced at trial.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Why because the defense said it had been sped up
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: and it wasn't in its original pristine form. Well be
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: careful what you ask, my dear, for you will surely
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: get it now. The jury will probably see the entire
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: version in its entirety and in regular motion, right at
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: regular speed. They'll probably wish they had kept the sped
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: up CNN version.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: You know, Robert Crispin joining.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Us there at Shawn Combs's mansion in Florida. So they
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: know about the Tupac Shakur hit, a million dollar hit.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: They know about the Cassie beat down video. They've seen it.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: We've got one juror begging off the panel because he
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: got cold feet.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: The jury is afraid.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: They don't care that Shawn comes is spending ten million
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: dollars on a defense, a slick defense.
• 46:19
  Speaker 16: Yeah. Well, I think what the jury's starting to think
• 46:21
  Speaker 16: as Wow, these are some violent people. What have I
• 46:24
  Speaker 16: gotten myself into? Like I said before, that video was
• 46:27
  Speaker 16: a gift to the prosecution. But what that video does
• 46:32
  Speaker 16: do it gives a look inside Viddi's real world when
• 46:36
  Speaker 16: he thinks nobody's watching, nobody's around and it's just him
• 46:40
  Speaker 16: and his victim, or him and an ex girlfriend, or
• 46:43
  Speaker 16: him who doesn't agree with him.
• 46:47
  Speaker 18: Explosive surveillance footage allegedly showing Combe's assaulting Ventura has been
• 46:52
  Speaker 18: admitted into evidence.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: The jury was finalized in the Shawanhomb's federal indictment trial
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: at nine forty five a m. Straight out to Lauren
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: Colin standing by at the courthouse, Lauren, what happened?
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: The opening statements for the prosecution said that we are
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: going to hear from Cassie this week along with another
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: witness named Jane. They said, we're going to hear or
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: we're going to see videos of these freak offs, and
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: it's going to be very uncomfortable for a lot of people.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: The prosecution also said things that I had never heard before.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: They said things like Cassie was forced to allow an
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: escort to urinate in her mouth at one point, and
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: this was per the instructions of Sean Colmes. The other witness, Jane,
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: is going to testify that she and Diddy got into
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: an altercation where he allegedly stomped on her face and
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: that she would run into every single room, lock the door.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: He would chase after her and kick the door down,
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: and it was It was very.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Straight out to Lynn Shaw, founder director Lenz Warriors, committed
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: to ending sexual exploitation of girls and women. What it
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: sounds like he's going to college, He's wearing reading glasses,
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: have you ever seen Sean Comes wearing reading glasses? Oh okay,
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: that's fake. And the sweater, the white shirt, the khaki pants.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: What is he a freshman at Harvard Lynshaw. Well, he's
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: pretending to be one dirty diddy. Listen, none of us
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: are fooled anymore, none of us. We can all see
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: through this. He's wearing reading glasses. I'm sure it's plastic
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: in the frames or clear glass. Nobody, we're New Yorkers.
• 48:45
  Speaker 24: This is a New York jury. We do not get fooled,
• 48:48
  Speaker 24: especially about this case. He has been for decades now,
• 48:52
  Speaker 24: since the early nineties on the lips. I'm telling you
• 48:55
  Speaker 24: of New Yorkers. So many people here know about him
• 48:59
  Speaker 24: or ready. I don't know what he thinks he's doing.
• 49:02
  Speaker 24: None of this is going to help him. Let us
• 49:04
  Speaker 24: keep the focus on victim survivors, and not only the
• 49:07
  Speaker 24: alleged ones of this case, but of all victims and
• 49:10
  Speaker 24: survivors of all of this exploitation, because Nancy, they are
• 49:14
  Speaker 24: seeking some kind of justice from this case. They want
• 49:17
  Speaker 24: some answers. They want somebody powerful money who has been
• 49:20
  Speaker 24: flaunting this in everybody's face, this exploitation. They want somebody
• 49:25
  Speaker 24: held accountable and I say, dirty Diddy going down This
• 49:28
  Speaker 24: is the case.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: To Eric Fattus, veteran trial lawyer, former prosecutor joining us
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: out of Colorado, Eric, I mean, what's next a wheelchair
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: and a neck grace.
• 49:38
  Speaker 21: You can't go in there wearing a bejeweled cape or something, right,
• 49:40
  Speaker 21: this is court And another take on.
• 49:43
  Speaker 7: It is that.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: The fattest.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we would never want him to reveal his true self.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, have you seen the Met Gallip pictures. That's
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: the real Seawn comes right there with the cave going
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: down the steps there you get. Yeah, so you just
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: said fast us he can't go in wearing a cape,
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Well why not, because that's what he normally wears. So
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: you're going along with the eye chicking the mind with
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: him dressed up like a Harvard freshman.
• 50:14
  Speaker 21: You know, I'm not sure that's what's going on here. Look,
• 50:16
  Speaker 21: he doesn't have the Stylus hun retainer anymore, that's obvious.
• 50:19
  Speaker 21: But on top of that, maybe this is Diddy's true self. Currently,
• 50:23
  Speaker 21: you know, he is no longer this high profile, powerful
• 50:26
  Speaker 21: logul with all these resources. He is incarcerated. He is
• 50:29
  Speaker 21: facing a serious federal trial and so his life has changed,
• 50:33
  Speaker 21: you know, he has gray in his hair. My understanding
• 50:35
  Speaker 21: this his appearance has been drastically transformed, and that could
• 50:40
  Speaker 21: just be a reflection of what's going on around him,
• 50:43
  Speaker 21: of the current state of his life. This is who
• 50:45
  Speaker 21: he is today, That's who those jurors are seeing.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: To doctor Bethany Marshall joining us, high profile psychoanalyst, Doctor Bethany,
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: it seems trite, very trite that visual tricks are being
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: used on the jury. Khaki pants. You know you heard
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: fact I say he doesn't have a stylist. I bet you,
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: I bet anything he does have a stylist. Those outfits
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: were carefully chosen, very carefully chosen. Have you ever ever
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: time immemorial, ever seen Sean Combs in a pullover sweater
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: and khaki pants. Think back, use that time machine, I
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: mean all the way back, whether he's on stage and
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: the mcgwa walking around LA or where Christmin is joining
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: us down his Miami mansion.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: Never once. These are serious charges, Bethany.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: I have seen women rape victims much less with it
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: video and in front of a whole crowd of people
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: while they're drugged. According to the prosecution, that basically stay
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: indoors the rest of their life.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: There is a profound.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: Impact on rape victims, and there is seawan comms and
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: a fake pair of reading glasses.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: What's he doing reading proofst war in peace? I don't know.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: It's it's a trick and there's serious charges here, Bethany.
• 52:18
  Speaker 22: We know not only is it a trick, but it's manipulative,
• 52:22
  Speaker 22: and we know that if the allegations are true, Huff
• 52:25
  Speaker 22: Diddy is a manipulative person and may have hired manipulative
• 52:29
  Speaker 22: defense attorneys. And Drawers are not stupid, Nancy.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: They do see through this.
• 52:36
  Speaker 22: Drawers can feel bored, offended, devalued, treated like they don't
• 52:42
  Speaker 22: have minds, and they can't think. They are not going
• 52:45
  Speaker 22: to like that. And you know what they also wouldn't
• 52:47
  Speaker 22: like in The defense knows this. To see a man
• 52:50
  Speaker 22: with carrots and carrots of diamonds around his neck in
• 52:55
  Speaker 22: the form of a cross who then uses his power
• 53:00
  Speaker 22: to exploit other people, that is a very unsympathetic character, Nancy,
• 53:06
  Speaker 22: And of course the defense wants to hide that. The
• 53:08
  Speaker 22: other thing is that I think ordinary people tend to
• 53:12
  Speaker 22: look at very wealthy people with the suspicion that maybe
• 53:17
  Speaker 22: you know the saying under beneda behind every great fortune
• 53:21
  Speaker 22: lies a great crime. The drawers can see that too,
• 53:26
  Speaker 22: that how did p did he get to the top,
• 53:28
  Speaker 22: How did he approve all this wealth? Why is he
• 53:30
  Speaker 22: hanging around with people who are some of the most
• 53:34
  Speaker 22: vulnerable people you.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Know in society?
• 53:38
  Speaker 22: So hey, this these defense attorneys have a lot camouflage,
• 53:43
  Speaker 22: and these.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Jurers are going to see through it. I guarantee that.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: Joining us at the courthouse, Lauren Colin, Lauren tell me
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: about the challenge Sean Comes's defense team made to these garrrs.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: He the defense team the latest Harney argues that.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: African Americans were systematically excluded from the jury for racial reasons.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: What happened?
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: They started with the jury strikes, and the defense points
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: it out that the FEDS or the government struck seven
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: black jurors out of nine. So the prosecution gave their
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: reasoning behind these strikes, and it was very valid.
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, some of these.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: Jurors they had said something like they were going to
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: lose thirty percent of their income by being on this trial,
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: but that wasn't a concern for them, which actually led
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: the prosecution to say, well, I have questions about their
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: intent here in the fact that they might want to
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: be here for our ulterior reasons, or they might have
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: an ulterior motive.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: Eric fattis, this argument is as old as dirt, and
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: it has been addressed by the US Supreme Court in
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: Batsen versus Kentucky B Brother atsn VA Kentech. In that case,
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: the prosecutor was accused of striking from the jury, the
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: big the grand jury panel you know, of eighty to
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: one hundred people in order to get twelve for the
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: petit petite jury of twelve, striking for racial reasons, which
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: is unconstitutional. Therefore, whenever you strike anyone, anybody, whether they're white,
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: they're black, they're Asian, doesn't matter. You better have a
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: good reason for striking. When I struck juries, typically my
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: defendant was black. My victims usually there were more than
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: one were black. There was no real racial undercurrent going
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: on in the courtroom, so I didn't have a lot
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: of bats and arguments against me. But what the state
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: has to do, and I'm sure that they did, you
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: have to write I would keep the jury list, and
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: what that is is a huge print out. I don't
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: know if they do them the same way in your jurisdiction.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: I'm sure they do fattest. Where you have the juror's name,
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: whether they're married, maybe where they were, whether they live
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: to ensure they live in that county or that jurisdiction,
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: or else they're not qualified.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: For the jury.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit more identifying information. But that said,
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: I would put notes, my notes beside each name.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: So if there was a challenge, I could.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: Say, well, I struck him because he doesn't have a job,
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: and if he can't show up to a job every day,
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: then why do I think he's going to show up
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: to court and pay attention? Or jerr fell asleep in
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: Voodie or jury selection, or let's see, here's a good one.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: Juror's husband convicted of rape. If I'm trying a rape.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: Case, yeah, I don't want her on.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: So I would always keep notes, brief notes beside each juror,
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: whether I wanted them or didn't want them, of my
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: impressions of that juror as we were striking the jury,
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: as I was questioning them on voy Dyer So bats
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: In v. Kentucky, easy solution to have your reasons why
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: you strugg as you are when the challenge arises. Way
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: in on bats And v. Kentucky faddest. I'm sure you
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: face it in court.
• 57:24
  Speaker 21: Yeah, no, great mind Stickle liked ancy. That's exactly how
• 57:27
  Speaker 21: I did it when I was a prosecutor. Because here's
• 57:29
  Speaker 21: the thing that's preason. A BATSM challenge is kind of
• 57:31
  Speaker 21: a big deal because it's really insinuating that the other
• 57:35
  Speaker 21: side is kicking somebody off based on their race. That
• 57:38
  Speaker 21: that's you know, inflaboratory and problematic, and so you need
• 57:42
  Speaker 21: to have a race neutral reason for excluding those folks.
• 57:46
  Speaker 21: You know, this wouldn't be the first time that the
• 57:48
  Speaker 21: defense has brought up race, and you know, historically for
• 57:52
  Speaker 21: race has played a role in the justice. So let's
• 57:54
  Speaker 21: be honest. And so, you know, is the Diddy team
• 57:57
  Speaker 21: sort of using that as one intentional argument to this
• 58:01
  Speaker 21: jury in terms of why some rich black men is
• 58:04
  Speaker 21: facing these federal offenses. I think they're going to take
• 58:06
  Speaker 21: that route in some former fashion.
• 58:11
  Speaker 18: The trial is just getting started, expected to last eight
• 58:14
  Speaker 18: weeks with a shocking testimony from accusers and insiders on deck.
• 58:19
  Speaker 20: Witness Irei is still missing. The court was informed last
• 58:22
  Speaker 20: week that prosecutors have lost communication and cannot locate her.
• 58:27
  Speaker 20: In fact, prosecutors cannot reach her attorney either, meaning they
• 58:31
  Speaker 20: are not sure Victim three will show up in court.
• 58:34
  Speaker 20: The woman does not live in New York. TMZ reports
• 58:37
  Speaker 20: the woman never wanted to appear in court at all,
• 58:40
  Speaker 20: refusing to cooperate and never agreed to testify against Diddy.
• 58:44
  Speaker 20: Prosecutors said Victim three would disclose very personal and exclusive
• 58:49
  Speaker 20: details concerning abuse she suffered under calms plenty of.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: Respect on Harvard eleven over at TMZ, but they had
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: to speak to her at some point and in order
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: to put her on the witness list.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Right now, the state is.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: Down, a victim, victim gone, even though we know at
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: some point she had to speak to the Feds.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: Even the lawyer is not responding to calls.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: Joining me there at Diddy's mansion in Florida, where the
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: neighbors are happy.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: This thing may finally be put to rest.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: Robert Crispin joining US Christmins Special Investigations, former Federal Task
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: Course Officer, Department, US Department of Justice. Robert, A witness,
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: not just a witness, but a victim is in the wind.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: I've had it happen to me on a child sex
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: trafficking case. The victim disappeared and was in no show
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: the first day and a half of trial. Let me
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: just say I was out all night literally with my investigator,
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: going to every flop house in intercity Atlanta, trying to
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: find the girl. We found her and went forward, and
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: I would try the case all day long. We found her.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: Not so easy in the ditty case. This victim could
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: be anywhere in the US and the lawyer's not picking
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: up the phone.
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  Speaker 16: Yeah, we call that being scared to death. That's exactly
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 16: what that is. This person doesn't want to testify. She's
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 16: already related to the government that she doesn't want to
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 16: testify because if she testifies and he's found guilty, she's damned.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 16: If they find him not guilty, she's damned because they
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 16: led an alleged sexual predator back on the street. It's
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 16: a lose lose situation for a victim, and it's very intimidating,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 16: very intimidating. Even though you're a victim with all the
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 16: victim's rights and the victim advocates, when it comes down
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 16: to you getting up and sitting in that chair and
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 16: raising your right hand and actually telling your story, it's
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 16: very intimidating. Not only is it intimidating, it brings up
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 16: bad pass in your mind and in your heart. It's
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 16: really something that a lot of people, they don't want
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 16: to be great anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Christian, let's go intimidating.
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  Speaker 2: They all know what happened to Cassie Ventira, okay, and
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: that was at a public hotel. They know what happened
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: to her, No wonder she's disappeared, and the lawyer's not
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: picking the phone up. And we know that even from
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: behind bars. Prosecutors have produced evidence Combs is tampering with witnesses.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: Listen.
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  Speaker 20: Prosecutors say, even behind bars, Shawn Combs has an uncanny
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 20: ability to get others to do his bidding. Diddy has
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 20: been accused of obstructing his sex trafficking case by paying
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 20: off witnesses and even enlisting his own children in a
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 20: public relationous campaign.
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  Speaker 2: You want to tell me he hasn't tried to get
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: to the victims.
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  Speaker 1: Listen.
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  Speaker 20: Prosecutors say evidence from Shawn COM's cells shows the accused
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 20: wrapper made relentless efforts from jail to contact potential witnesses,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 20: including victims. These methods reportedly involved three way calls, using
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 20: other inmates' phone excess codes, a third party communications service,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 20: and directing family members to contact potential witnesses, the aim
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 20: to blackmail victims and witnesses into either silence or to
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 20: provide testimony helpful to Colmbs.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: Speaking of getting to the victims straight out to Sydney's
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: summer joining US Crime Stories investigative reporter Sidney, isn't it true?
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: Prosecutors are planning.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: To introduce evidence that Sean Combs forced one of his
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: victims to undergo an unwanted medical procedure. I mean, was
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: it an abortion? I don't know, But what can you
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: tell me about that? If he could force a victim
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: to undergo an operation, a medical procedure, what makes the
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: state think he's not trying to scare or intimidate the
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: victims in this case?
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 15: Sidney, No, that's right, Nancy. Prosecutors intend to introduce this
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 15: evidence and we don't know yet what that unwanted medical
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 15: procedure was. You're completely right. It definitely could have been
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 15: an abortion. Going along with the fact that did he
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 15: coerces all of these women into unwanted sexual encounters and
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 15: then doesn't want to keep relationships with them. So prosecutors
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 15: are introducing this to show that pattern of behavior, to
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 15: show the level of control that Shawncolmbs exerted over his victims,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 15: so that could be really powerful in front of the jury.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: It was exactly ten twenty a m.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: This morning that the jury came into the courtroom with
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: Shawncombe standing at attention to impanel and swear in the jury.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: This is a day that's been long and coming. The
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: state claims that decades of abuse of women and so
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: called free coughs have occurred. Finally, will there be justice
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: this as one of the victims disappears, can't find her
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: or her lawyer straight out to Sidney Sumner joining US
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: Crime Stories investigative reporter, I understand in light victim number
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: three a no show, the state has added Victim five
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: to the roster.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 15: Now, Victim five, who is not mentioned in charging documents,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 15: will not be able to just replace Victim three. Judge
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 15: Subermanian has ruled that they will not be able to
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 15: include all of the intended testimony, only part of it
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 15: because this victim is a similar transaction. This victim will
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 15: also not be granted anonymmity.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: We know that one of the victims is not asking
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: to testify under a pseudonym.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: It's Cassie Ventura.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: Cassie Ventura is heavily pregnant at this juncture, and her
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: cross examination by the.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: Defense is going to be very tricky. Listen, when you have.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: A pregnant lady, a mom up on the stand, I mean,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: you know, how cruel can you be? You can't really,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: you know, shreader on the stand that my friends to
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: be And of course Mark Gira go is going to
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: be a very vague answer on that. But Eric Fattus,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: if the defense team comes across as bullying Cassie Ventura,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: that's going to totally play against comms.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 16: That's going to rub the journey the wrong way absolutely.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 21: I mean, you know, not only do you have this
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 21: superstar already sympathetic victim, but there's a video of her
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 21: being brutalized, and the person being brutalized is going to
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 21: be on the stand, pregnant, telling you how she was
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 21: verbally and sexually brutalized. And so it's going to be
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 21: a delicate dance here. The defense has to kind of
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 21: approach this in a sensitive fashion but also be firm
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 21: enough to get their points across. And so the balance
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 21: to be struck here cannot be understated. Well, I got
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 21: to say this to doctor Bethany Marshall.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: Cassie Ventura is going to be able to handle whatever
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: they throw at her. She is the one that broke
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: the whole thing wide open when she filed that civil lawsuit.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: And basically the Feds had.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: A red flag waved in front of them like a
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: bull because it was out there and they were left
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: looking emasculated they had done nothing. And here's this video.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: Let's take a look at the video, everybody, this is
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: coming into court in a different iteration. There you see
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: Cassie Ventura. Oh and here he comes. Thank goodness that
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: towel didn't slip. She's trying to get away reportedly from
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: a free cough. Now Garags tells me it wasn't a
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: free cough at all, that she was the aggressor. She
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: Cassie Ventura is the aggressor in this video. She, according
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: to Giragos, was angry when she saw Combs had gotten
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: texts from another woman. Okay, she looks like she weighs
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: about one hundred pounds soaking wet in that video. But
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: yet Garago said, with a straight face, this is from
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: my friends at seeing n by the way, a straight face,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: that she was the aggressor now, okay, I'm doctor Bethany
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: Gara Ghos and his daughter is all the defense team.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: Tenny Geyghos is saying that that you're not seeing what
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: you think you're seeing. She's actually the aggressor in that video. Really,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: are they actually gonna say that to a jury? One
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: hundred pound Cassie is giving Diddy the beat down I.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: Saw like a broken record.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 22: But Nancy Dures are not stupid, and st Drews can
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 22: feel like they're being kind of manipulated or mistreated, and
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 22: I think the defense should be very careful with this
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 22: line of reasoning. You know, the truth is, you see
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 22: this young Cassie Venturua running for her life with bare feet.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 22: The allegations that he was on the phone doing business
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 22: deals while he coursed her into having sex with somebody
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 22: else while he was watching could come out. He kicks
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 22: her in the back, she has to pretend to play dead.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 22: He drags her back down the hallway, and then the
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 22: jurors see this beautiful, resilient woman who has re established
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 22: her life, probably has a new relationship, is going to
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 22: create a family. This is a woman to be admired.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 22: She rose above the trauma she did the work, whatever
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 22: she did to reconstitute herself. She is a very adwarry witness.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 22: So they are going to hang on every single word Nancy,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 22: because most victims do not establish.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: Themselves like this bombshell in the courtroom.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: The defense is actually going to argue that Cassie Ventura
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: was the aggressor, that she was the one giving Sean
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: Comes the beatdown. What juror is going to believe that,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: especially in light of this.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 12: It's so difficult to reflect on the darkest times in
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 12: your life.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 16: Sometimes you gotta do that.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 7: I was fucked up.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 12: I mean, I hit rock bottom, but I made no excuses.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 16: My behavior on that video is inexcusable.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 12: I take full responsibility for my ashes in that video.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 7: Disgusted.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 12: I was disgusted then when I did it. I'm disgusting
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 12: now and when and I sought out professional help and
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 12: to go into therapy. We're going to rehab.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 16: Had asked God for his mercy and grace.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: Second verse same as the first. So if he didn't
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: do it, why is he apologizing for it? And that
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: song comes as official Instagram. I wonder if they're going
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: to play that. We know the Cassie material tape is
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: in straight back out to Lauren Collins standing by.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: I understand the courtroom wholes about one hundred people, and I.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: Guess it was packed, right, Okay, we'll get the answer
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: to that. You know I'm hearing Lynn Shaw comes in
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: that video stating he wants to be a better person.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: He's discussed with himself, he's going to rehab.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: But yet that side of one side of.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: His mouth, out of the other side of his mouth,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: he's actually going to argue to the jury that Cassie
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: was the violent one.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 24: Please stop, Nancy, because I'm getting sick. I'm getting sick
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 24: watching that video over and over again. We have to
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 24: remember people are visual. Once they see that video, this
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 24: will stick in their minds Now, Listen, we work with
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 24: a lot of survivors and victims at the Warriors. What
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 24: do they tell me repeatedly when they are being attacked,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 24: They played dead. They do not move. They don't want
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 24: to further and rage that person. They don't want more beatings,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 24: so they remain very still. Where is her video of
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 24: her beating him? That's what I want to know. Why
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 24: is this playbook the same thing we're in court? A
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 24: lot flipped on putting it on the victim. Oh, it's
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 24: their fault. They caused me to do it. That's consensual.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: You know what.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 24: The jury again, like doctor Bethany said, like I'm saying
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 24: as a New Yorker. New Yorkers are smart, They're not
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 24: going to buy this. And you know what, Dirty Diddy
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 24: going down.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: We are in a verdict.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: Watch as we wait for the song Times jury too
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: hand down a verdict.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: Nancy Gray signing off, goodbye friend,