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Purple People Eaters: O-Line Issues & Run Defense In Steelers Loss WTF! Preview Vikings vs Browns · The Rope A Dope Radio Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings fans, Welcome back to the Purple People Leaders Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: He's Aaron, I'm Chris, and we're here to discuss a
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  Speaker 1: couple things. One was a loss on our European residency.
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  Speaker 1: Not a good one. They jumped out early. We tried
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  Speaker 1: to make a comeback and more injuries happened. Tell me
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  Speaker 1: if you've heard this one before, now you know the
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  Speaker 1: back to back euro stuff. It was. It's weird, of course,
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  Speaker 1: but the biggest thing was the buye right, and that's
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  Speaker 1: on paper, that's before the season starts. And if I
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  Speaker 1: didn't if we didn't think that way, that means we'd
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of injuries. So we don't want to
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  Speaker 1: think that there's just automatically going to be a lot
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  Speaker 1: of injuries. However, Okay, we have new data. The data
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  Speaker 1: says that we have a lot of injuries. So there,
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  Speaker 1: this guy's gonna come in handy. It's gonna come in handy.
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  Speaker 1: We might need to make a trade. We got semi
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  Speaker 1: good news on Brian O'Neill. He's not done for the season,
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  Speaker 1: but he's gonna be out. We'll talk all about it.
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  Speaker 1: The offensive line's having issues. Quarterback won't get rid of
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  Speaker 1: the ball. Things are happening, and not in a positive way.
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  Speaker 1: We're two and two. We're gonna break it down. Then,
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  Speaker 1: of course preview the second euro game against Cleveland, and
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  Speaker 1: we were just talking about a certain defensive end that
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  Speaker 1: has to be just loving it. He can go to
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  Speaker 1: the pubs this week. I mean, he could just hang out.
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  Speaker 1: He knows what he's gonna face anyway. So we're gonna preview, win,
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  Speaker 1: predict that game against Cleveland. Really at this point, considering
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  Speaker 1: what we have after the buy, definitely must win. And
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  Speaker 1: then per usual, we always end with talking Gopher football.
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  Speaker 1: They got themselves a big win and we got ourselves quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: let's get into this.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 1: Aaron got down early and never could quite climb back.
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  Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, that was a tough one to watch,
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  Speaker 2: just because it didn't start off well and you're, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you're in Europe, Aaron Rodgers and all that good stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But man, you know, the more things change sometimes the
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  Speaker 2: more they stay the same week. You know, Harp on
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  Speaker 2: the offensive line for about seven years now, and right
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  Speaker 2: when you think you got it going, they start dropping
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  Speaker 2: like flies. You know, we miss Darris offt for teks
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  Speaker 2: to start off the season, and then the rookie gets hurt,
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  Speaker 2: and then Brian Kelly, which we thought was really great signing,
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  Speaker 2: is in on this third or second concussion of the year.
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  Speaker 2: It hasn't really seen a lot of the field. It
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  Speaker 2: talked a little bit about it last week. It's just like, man,
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  Speaker 2: you know, God, we signed him for two years, so
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  Speaker 2: it's not the end of the world. But get used
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  Speaker 2: to Michael Jurgens because you're gonna see a lot of him,
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  Speaker 2: I think throughout the course of this season. Justin's school man.
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  Speaker 2: This guy's an adventure to say the least, and he's
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  Speaker 2: been kind of ear marked for most of his career
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  Speaker 2: as kind of a turnstile. So that was an interesting
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  Speaker 2: signing when we look back. Okay, but we thought that
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  Speaker 2: would just be depth because O'Neill has always been fairly healthy.
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  Speaker 2: He's had you know, he gets nicked up during a season,
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  Speaker 2: miss a game or two. But yeah, we got some
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  Speaker 2: decent news. I guess it's a spraying and not a
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  Speaker 2: a tear, so he'll be back six to eight, four
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  Speaker 2: to six. We don't really know when he's coming back.
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  Speaker 2: So right now the offensive line is in shambles and
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  Speaker 2: they haven't played together all season, and you know, if
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  Speaker 2: it's not the coaching, which I ran it about a
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  Speaker 2: week before last, then it's something else. And right now
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  Speaker 2: it's just depleted and makes you kind of long for
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  Speaker 2: the days of Bradbury and Ingram. And you never thought
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  Speaker 2: you would. You never thought you would. I mean I
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  Speaker 2: was fine seeing Bradbury walk out the door.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I kept him in the ass when
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  Speaker 1: he went out the door.
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  Speaker 2: Ah, and you know, and then he's starting for whoever
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  Speaker 2: he's playing for now. But yeah, so it's been a
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  Speaker 2: war of attrition. And then you think about it, Chris,
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  Speaker 2: you go back, man, the last really decent iteration of
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  Speaker 2: our offensive line and it wasn't great, but it was
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  Speaker 2: better was with Spirano and then Sperano died. So true,
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  Speaker 2: you know what's going on here? Who knows, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: Carson got beeed up a little bit. There's a lot
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  Speaker 2: to talk about when it comes offensive line and offense,
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  Speaker 2: but it's not looking good. The only real bright spot
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  Speaker 2: is Jordan Mason.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he looked good at times in the game.
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  Speaker 1: It's just seems like he's always going forward. He can
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  Speaker 1: break tackles, he can juke you. I'm really excited about
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  Speaker 1: this kid. Man. He's in his prime. He's like twenty five.
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  Speaker 1: Hell of a player. I really like him. You're right,
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  Speaker 1: it's very very positive on that note. And it's kind
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  Speaker 1: of cool that he it's not great that Jones is injured,
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  Speaker 1: but it does give him more touches. So and we'll
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  Speaker 1: need that over the next couple a couple of years,
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  Speaker 1: you know, under contract and whatnot. You know, it's just, uh,
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  Speaker 1: Rogers didn't put up some kind of crazy stats, but
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  Speaker 1: he just got the ball where it needed to be,
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  Speaker 1: got rid of the ball. They ran the ball really well.
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  Speaker 1: Again on us, it's kind of like every other week,
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  Speaker 1: h it seems like right now. But a lot of
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  Speaker 1: it comes back to the offense too at some point,
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  Speaker 1: you know, where you're just like, dude, we got we
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  Speaker 1: gotta take advantage and stuff. They did have a nice
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  Speaker 1: drive eleven play drive to start out, and uh got
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  Speaker 1: you know, settled for a field goal. It was third
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  Speaker 1: and nine and Whence didn't see jj open. Uh he's
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  Speaker 1: on the team, good old Jefferson Jetta. I suppose, well
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  Speaker 1: McCarthy's not on the in the starting lineup right now,
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  Speaker 1: so I think we can go back to calling him JJ.
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  Speaker 1: But it was like, okay, they had a nice drive though,
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  Speaker 1: they definitely had a nice drive, and then then you
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  Speaker 1: know they returned the favor and it's seven to three,
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  Speaker 1: and you know that's where it kind of was starting
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  Speaker 1: to fall apart. Five place punt. You know, we had
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  Speaker 1: a decent ten play drive, going interception, ended up blocking
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  Speaker 1: a field goal after they had a twelve play freaking drive.
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  Speaker 1: Did manage to, you know, kick a field goal another
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  Speaker 1: guy open, I think it was Jefferson again, wide open
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  Speaker 1: on a. I think it was like on A. I
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  Speaker 1: can't even remember who. It doesn't really matter, it doesn't,
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  Speaker 1: but that one play eighty yards the metcalf gets them
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  Speaker 1: up fourteen to three. It's fourteen to six a half.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it seemed like either Rogers or Pace screwed up.
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  Speaker 1: Rogers made contact with him, but he kind of pushed
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  Speaker 1: them along into what he perceived as a zone as
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  Speaker 1: he went and covered his little area, and whether it
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  Speaker 1: was a tight end or halfback came out and Rogers
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  Speaker 1: had him, he would have had him just fine, but
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  Speaker 1: Pace jumped on that half you know, whatever, it was.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was a tight end, but h back,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but either way, both of them went
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  Speaker 1: to that guy and it was like, well, that's definitely
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  Speaker 1: not designed to do that. And you know before we
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  Speaker 1: hit record, you did mention you know how they moved
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  Speaker 1: Wilson there too, But when you have two guys in
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  Speaker 1: that area, pace could have still put a hand on
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  Speaker 1: him within five yards. You just can't let that happen.
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  Speaker 1: And so that was some form of miscommunication. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to act like I know exactly whose fault it was.
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  Speaker 1: I really don't know. But either way, what I do
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  Speaker 1: know is it was eighty yards. It started out, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're up fourteen to six, a couple of punts and
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  Speaker 1: then we got a good drive man and it was
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  Speaker 1: eleven play and in an interception they added a touchdown.
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  Speaker 1: It's twenty one to six, and you're just thinking, and
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  Speaker 1: like I said, multiple times, he's missing Addison or he's
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  Speaker 1: pumped faking to TJ and he's going to try to
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  Speaker 1: juke somebody. You can't have Jefferson two or three times
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  Speaker 1: open for Maybe it's only a short game, but it's
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  Speaker 1: a game we'll talk about, you know, how much pressure
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  Speaker 1: was coming. Of course, a lot of pressure was coming.
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  Speaker 1: But when you at the end of the day, Aaron,
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  Speaker 1: when you look at the statistics of stats, you know,
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  Speaker 1: for sacks and all that, some of those sacks and
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  Speaker 1: hits were on him. He's holding the ball too much.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he you know, when he does have time,
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  Speaker 1: he wants to really make it count. But there's just
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  Speaker 1: too many times were I mean, that pump fake to
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  Speaker 1: TJ and he acted like he was going to do
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  Speaker 1: something and juked some guy out. And I'm not even
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  Speaker 1: saying that would have been a big pickup or something.
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  Speaker 1: But you gotta know when you have this much pressure,
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  Speaker 1: and like you said, we've been seeing pressure since twenty eighteen.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's a lot of pressure. But sometimes it's on
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  Speaker 1: the quarterback. Sometimes it's on the offensive line. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of time it has been on the interior off the line,
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  Speaker 1: you know, throughout the years. But you gotta get rid
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  Speaker 1: of it. Put it in the dirt or something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I also think you know now that
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  Speaker 2: you mention it, the last maybe three quarterbacks, even when
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  Speaker 2: Cousins was injured, they all annoyed us by holding the
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  Speaker 2: ball too long. Yes, and so maybe there's something about
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  Speaker 2: the offense or or KOC or something that's it's doing that.
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  Speaker 2: And also our other annoyance is getting the damn play,
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  Speaker 2: get the play call in and getting the playoff.
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  Speaker 1: That was an issue too.
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  Speaker 2: You're right that seems to be raising it's ugly head again.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, as far as Wentz, he's looking for the
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  Speaker 2: perfect play. And we talked a fair about this too.
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  Speaker 2: It is like this guy's thirty some years old, been
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  Speaker 2: in the league at least eight years. It should be
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  Speaker 2: seasoned and whether know how to avoid a sack or
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  Speaker 2: how to throw the ball away or throw it in
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  Speaker 2: the dirt or do what you have to do to
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  Speaker 2: avoid sacks. Now, like you mentioned, there was an awful
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  Speaker 2: lot of pressure. It was coming from a lot of
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  Speaker 2: different places. You know, some of that's offensive line, and
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  Speaker 2: I'd say with all the injuries, probably a lot of
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  Speaker 2: that's offensive line. But yeah, that's gonna more and more.
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  Speaker 2: There were six sacks totals, so let's give the offensive
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  Speaker 2: line four. There's two that Wentz could have avoided at
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  Speaker 2: least with a smart player or not thinking that he
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  Speaker 2: can run like he's twenty two. Again, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: thought overall, his performance for the day wasn't great. His
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  Speaker 2: stats are pretty good some of the two picks, but
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  Speaker 2: he was missing guys, like you said, And you know,
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  Speaker 2: I think just trying to play hero ball a little
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  Speaker 2: too much and not just taking a check down or
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  Speaker 2: or throwing it away or doing something like that. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, I thought the running game was decent. When
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  Speaker 2: you gave Mason and Scott a chance. Scott's really turned
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  Speaker 2: into play. Yeah, I mean, he's can catch it. He's
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: kind of like a young Aaron Jones knock on Wood
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  Speaker 2: as far as like what his role can be. A
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  Speaker 2: few carries a lot of stuff out of the backfield
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  Speaker 2: and things like that. Kept our boy off the field,
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: the guy that keeps coming back every year, Cam Akers, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there are issues with with the offensive line, Chris. That
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  Speaker 2: just at this point, you know, even if you do
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  Speaker 2: think Wentz is not great, you almost want to see
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  Speaker 2: him play because you don't want to expose McCarthy to
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  Speaker 2: this until you have at least four of the five
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  Speaker 2: guys back or or two tackles, and then you know,
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  Speaker 2: some mixed match in the middle. I would hate to
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  Speaker 2: see McCarthy playing in this next game with Miles Garrett
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  Speaker 2: on the other side, or what's gonna happen in Philadelphia?
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  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I mean, you've got to get this
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  Speaker 2: line figured out. Whether that's crazy making a deal for
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: a tackle, it'd be tough to do. But we don't
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  Speaker 2: know O'Neill's situation. But you started the third quarter in
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  Speaker 2: the first news you got was Kelly's out, O'Neill's out.
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  Speaker 2: You get a sack, you're three and out, and you punt,
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  Speaker 2: and that's just happening way too much. You know, this season,
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  Speaker 2: we've got to be close to the record in three
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  Speaker 2: and outs under koc because I just don't remember that
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  Speaker 2: many three and outs with c with Donald, with Dobbs,
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  Speaker 2: with with all these guys. That seems to be something
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  Speaker 2: that's happening a lot this year, and it's usually from
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  Speaker 2: pressure and sacks. So that's a big that's a big deal.
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  Speaker 2: You get Addison back, he makes some plays, you know,
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  Speaker 2: did what Addison does. And really seem like they opened
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  Speaker 2: the game by getting Jefferson the ball quite a bit
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  Speaker 2: and that seemed to help a bit, Wentz to get
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  Speaker 2: rid of the ball, but then that bog down too
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  Speaker 2: and I guess at this point I would just say
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  Speaker 2: run the ball with Mason because he seems to be
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  Speaker 2: the brightest spot you got and maybe do a little
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  Speaker 2: work with Scott with some screens and some you know,
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  Speaker 2: checkdowns in the flat and we'll work it that way.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, or remove the pocket for wins. There's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of options. But if you notice in Koc
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  Speaker 2: and his history, he's not to move the pocket guy.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: He he'll do it occasionally, Yeah, but you know, if
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  Speaker 2: you look at all his quarterbacks, there's not a lot
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  Speaker 2: of move in the pocket for guys. So he's pretty
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  Speaker 2: staunched to assist him. Kind of like Den you know,
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  Speaker 2: believed in his system and.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: He wants you know, he wants to coach Nan, let
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  Speaker 1: him coach the team. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think KOs might be one of them system guys
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  Speaker 2: as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, like the old line is in
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  Speaker 1: shatters and a lot of it is now injury, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Brandle and you know, I think he'll be okay replacing
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  Speaker 1: the rookie, like you said, you know, the backup center.
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  Speaker 1: I think he'll be okay, but there is going to
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  Speaker 1: be an issue on the right tackle. We've seen the
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  Speaker 1: guy play. He's not good. Jurgens should be okay, though
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  Speaker 1: those should be okay and maybe we will be able
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: to run with those guys, but the right tackle so
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: that's going to be an issue. But yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 1: there's tons of blitzes and and you know, sometimes you
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: gotta play called in in there's not really a dump
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  Speaker 1: off right or whatever short plays and it needs time
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  Speaker 1: and they just have a perfect blitz and that happens.
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  Speaker 1: You know. Now there has been complaints on where are
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  Speaker 1: more short routes, and I think some of that is warranted.
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  Speaker 1: I think we do have to kind of blend into
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  Speaker 1: the West Coast short passes. You made a good point
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  Speaker 1: at how we got Jefferson involved early. Wasn't all twenty
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  Speaker 1: and thirty yard passes or nothing, So I think it's
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  Speaker 1: it's somewhere in between when it comes to that. I
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  Speaker 1: do think there could be more short passing. But will
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  Speaker 1: he take him for sure? You know, we don't know,
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  Speaker 1: because I think people forget that. Like I mentioned, like
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  Speaker 1: there were multiple times, like there was a play where
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  Speaker 1: Ramsey had his hamstring hurt because memory faked it at
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: the start and celebrated, which that's ongoing, but then he
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  Speaker 1: did an Addison had him beat for a touchdown. Didn't
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  Speaker 1: see him. He threw a jump ball what probably should
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: have been a jump ball, but you gotta if you're
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: gonna throw a jump ball, you gotta throw it correctly.
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  Speaker 1: He overthrew it. There was a couple of deep balls
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  Speaker 1: he overthrew. Uh. There was a play by TJ. Now
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  Speaker 1: Jefferson probably would have scored when he slipped. Addison had
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: some footing problem too. He got caught on that eighty
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  Speaker 1: one yard catch. But TJ could have got out, got
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: out of got out of bounce and if you just
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: lead him and not throw it behind him. So he
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  Speaker 1: was inaccurate. And I get, like I said, some of
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: this is on the old line, no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 1: In another thing, the pre snap penalties they need to
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: be cleaned up really really bad. There. We're pretty bad
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  Speaker 1: on third down right now. But that doesn't help either, right,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: and that's not all on you know whence either. So
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  Speaker 1: I want to say, like there's a lot of pressure.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe there could be more West Coast vibe where you
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  Speaker 1: get a little five yard dump offfs, but there were
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  Speaker 1: also plays to be had. And I keep bringing it up,
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  Speaker 1: but that pump fake the TJ is like, dude, what
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  Speaker 1: this isn't North Dakota just stop. So he when you
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: look at his numbers, he could have had four hundred
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: yards yesterday. And so you know, I think Maggie put
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: on a stat that right now we're like one of
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: the worst all time for sack percentage. Right now, we're
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: four games in, So let's see how that holds up.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: The next couple of games are gonna be bad. We
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: know that, but let's not act like if you're gonna
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: blame because they blame Cousins for checking down one, throwing
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: the ball away too and not being mobile enough. But
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: the thing about Cousins, he knew what he was though,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: and so he wasn't gonna try to do some shit
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: he can't do. And and and that's where it's like, dude, you
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: have like some of those sacks are definitely on him,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: and it's it's it's just blatantly obvious. So it is
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: a combination. It's not all just the line because like
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I said, we we've had a bad line in Tier
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: for so long. So but the priest snat penalties, that's discipline,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: that's on the players, that's on the coach and rightfully
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: so at the end of the year, like you said,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: we probably should go a different direction with the offensive
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: line coach. There's just no way around it, you know.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I just I don't know, but yeah, maybe run the
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: ball more. Like you said, the clock issues down the stretch,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: I don't care if you had to bend your neck
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: to see it. There's no excuse for that. When he
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: you know, he got a penalty because he held the
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: ball too long. Could had time to throw it away.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: And like, I can't play quarterback. No one can really
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: play quarterback beyond the people that are in the league. Okay,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: so we're not trying to be like over the top,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: but there's just things that are real basic and like
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: you said, with the age, it's like you've got to
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: know this, dude. But yeah, the clock issues at the
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: end was just like are you serious? But the priest
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: thatt pedalties. Man, they're piling up considering we've only played.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Four games, right, and some of that's like just new
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: offensive line members and so on. You can kind of
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: couch that, but we're like, again, we're in week four,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: here are going into week five. That's got to get
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: cleaned up. I liked your point about, you know, Wentz
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: just being inaccurate. I think that's that's a valid point.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: The Hockinson catch or throw where he flailed out of bounds,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: it sticks out to me. And then missing guys too,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: and that was a darnal thing too, where you miss guys. Uh,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: I remember that in the Detroit game or and stuff.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: There's just like it's a lot of recurring things here,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: and you know he's training up McCarthy. I get that,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: so maybe you know it takes a little bit of time.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: You know, he had cousins for what two seasons, three
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: seasons something like.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: That seasons, Yeah, because he got her developed.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Developed into that and into like maybe not missing as
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: many or knowing what to look for and what to see.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: And you know, I'm not sure and.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: We're not asking McCarthy to do that. You know, like
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: a what a three four year starter, So he was
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: he was a vet, you know. Yeah.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: And Wentz he's been sitting up behind a lot of
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: guys for a few years. I supposed to learn. But
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: you know, I didn't expect Wentz to be besides the
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: sarcasm and you know, saying that he's gonna come and
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: lead at NFC Championship game. You know, I didn't expect
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: him to be uh pro bowler. I just expected him
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: to be serviceable. I think he has been to the
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: most for the most part, and he's been getting a
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: lot of pressure and so on. I'm not trying to
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: make excuses for the guy I don't want to.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: See wasn't even there at the beginning of the camp.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: You know, I'd much rather see McCarthy in there taking
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: his lumps than what Carson Wentz is doing. And I
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: think all the listeners are aware of that, but you know,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: it is what it is. I thought that, you know,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: a buy couldn't come any sooner, really, I mean, we've
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: got to get the rookie back at the guard position.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: We got to figure out what's going on with Kelly,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: whether it's even worth to play him at this point
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: with his concussion issues. Got to figure out what's going
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: on left tackle. We looked and we couldn't see if
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Rause was hurt or not to maybe play that right
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: tackle because we know School's not gonna do it. And
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: and for whatever he is, seems to be holding up
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: fairly well. And I think you just got to get
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: used to Jurggens in the middle and if these guys
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: whatever iteration of this line it is going to be
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: going forward needs to become that line and stay healthy,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: and then I think you could actually make some offensive progress.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: But until then in your patchwork and you know, you're
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: not really building any continuity with these guys. It's gonna
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: be a tough sledding offensively. And if at least if
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: you have darrisaw on the rookie you can run behind them.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: They prove they can run pretty well behind them, and that's,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: you know, something good leaner to hang your hat on.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: But yeah, offensively, it's gonna be kind of a slugfest.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: This is where KOs needs to be creative and be
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: flexible in his offense to cater it to the quarterback
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: he has ieed offensive line he has and I'm not
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: saying quick game the whole game. You can't do that,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: but you can do no huddle for a series or two.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: You can do some things to kind of throw a
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: defense off balance that you might have to get into
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: with Wentz or McCarthy. At this point, you know, McCarthy's
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: definitely out for the Browns game. And then we hit
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: the buye and then we're into a real tough stretch
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: of the season, and these things like pre snap penalties,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: clock issues, offensive line incontinuity, quarterback questions. You'd like to
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: have all of that figured out coming out of the
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: bye Chris, And I'm sure during our bye show we'll
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: have a list of things that need to happen. But
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: you know, offensively, you're gonna have problems without this offensive line. Now,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: let's talk about run defense, Chris, because we're giving out
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: more yards here than we ever have under our voy
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Brian Flores. And you can say all you want that
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: it's Cashman's out and make an excuse, but we thought
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Wilson's been filling in decently well. But we're kind of
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: going back to that defense we had without Cashman last
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: year where you could run the ball and they're a
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: little suspect in the middle where the linebackers are for passes,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: and that's really what Rogers did. It was these short
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: passes in those sections and that's enough to win a game,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: as we saw on Sunday. Defensive line, it's better, I
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: think for pass rush, but I don't see a big
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: improvement against the run to date anyway, and the secondary
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: is not getting really tested because they're able to run
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: the ball, so they're not gonna throw it if they
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: can run it. So yeah, I mean there are some
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: for the first time, I think since Flores has been
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: here without any excuses, there's some some serious defensive questions
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: at the moment.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, and it's been every other week, you
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: know the I mean, obviously Atlanta ran it all over us.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean you had twenty nine carries buck
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: thirty one at a four point five clip, and to
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: your point further, eleven runs for a first down, so
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: we had more first downs than them. A lot of
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: that stuff was late fifteen passing, only six rushing, whereas
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: they only had six passing. Sure, but eleven first down
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: runs is not gonna get it done. And you're right,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: like Redmans, Yeah, I love the way he sacks the
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: quarterback and kind of ragsed all the guy. And but yeah,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I mean it's two out of the four weeks where
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: you can say, well, they kept us in the game.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Sure they did, but besides that, something happened on that
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Medcalf play. They did, but they also were able to run,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: and you can't can't give up eleven first downs. That's
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: just too many to the ball because, like you said,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: you're not going to test the secondary too much and
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: right now, because two out of those four games were
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: giving up a buck thirty on the ground, So that
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: isn't good and it does need to be addressed, no
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: doubt about it. It has to be. And you know,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: when you're playing with a healthy lead, you're going to
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: lead into that, but also like you know they're going
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: to lean into it, so you got to stop it.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: So sometimes it's poor tackling. Sometimes it's not just the
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: defensive line. And yeah, sure for those chunk of weeks,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: you're right, it does kind of feel like last year,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: you know, without the guy who makes those shirt tackles.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: But you know, we did beef up the inside. So
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I think he made a good point about the you know,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: and not that he's some great run stopper. But I
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: wasn't thinking Van Ginkel was gonna be out. That was
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: kind of like, wait, his next still messed up? Did
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: the flight mess you know how when you get on
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: a plane and stuff gets swollen up or whatever. He
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: may not play again. He might play, he may not
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, wait, Ben giggles not, I think
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: he only played what nine? I thought he only played
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: like nine snaps because we were kicking their ass last week.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: But but I guess not so that those are two
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: guys that are very aggressive and could make those kind
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: of almost like blitz runs, like we're blitzing, but I'm
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: gonna clear up the run. But it has to get better,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that, because if you give up
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: the run like that, that's gonna be tough. That's gonna
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: be very tough. So that's a good point. It needs
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: to tighten up.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: And we got the big nasties, Chris. So it's like
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: you want to see something or see some return in
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: your vestment, on your investment in short yardage. And yes,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: I have seen a huge improvement on stopping in short
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: yardage situations, especially on Sunday. Like you said, eleven first
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: downs running a lot, Man, they didn't.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Have that many, you know, like that's way too many back.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Breakers, man, simple like quarterback sneaks and things like that
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: that you think, oh, you can at least get under them,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: or at least you know, show some kind of leverage
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: against them, you know, against it. It just doesn't seem
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: that way. And maybe with rotation you're getting stuck with
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: some different guys, but you know, Jonathan Allen's brought here
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: to be a bit of a run stuff for as
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: far as size goes. So that's maybe a work in progress,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: and we'll cut a little slack. Like I said, we're
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: a quarter of the way through the season, but that's
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: got improved too, because you can't just be giving up
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: runs like that. Defense on the defensive side of the ball,
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: and you know, a lot of it is a lot
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: of these things, Chris are like, you know, we've seen
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: little inklings of these problems throughout the years, and they
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: all kind of just kind of coalesced in this one
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: season where you've got massive injury concerns. We were relatively
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: healthy the last two years, especially last year. Man. Yeah,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: defense problems that you know, kind of on Zimmer's decline,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: we saw sort of similar stuff. But I guess I
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: put that more to just the depletion of the roster
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: at that point with Zim. And then you know, offensive
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: issues offensive line. You know, you think you get it
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: fixed and then everybody breaks something or you know, gets hurt.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: So it's one of those you know, I guess he
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: paid the piper for all the good luck you've had.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: So yeah, like I said, the buy couldn't come quick enough.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: But there's a lot of a lot of decisions to
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: make during that now, and you know, we mocked it
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: going into this here about how early it was, but man,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: it just seems yeah, glad that one right could come
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: fast enough At this point, you know, the real task
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: is going to be after that buy when you don't
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: have the buy coming, and how can you stay healthy?
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: How's this team playing? Can you run the ball? What's
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: how's wentz JJ? Whoever's playing quarterback at that point in time.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, then we get into like serious, there's no
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: there's no help coming, you know, and you're gonna have
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: to to figure it out. But yeah, it's it's been
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: a roller coaster so far these first four weeks, offensively
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: more than the defense, but now the defense is starting
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: to show some wrinkles here. That and getting ran the
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: ball long Chris is not good because that's just snowballs.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Other teams will see it and they're just gonna run
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: the ball on you too until you can stop. You're
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: gonna see it, Yep, there's.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: No doubt about that. As we lead into this next game,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: the Browns are one in three. We're sitting of course
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: at two and two. Speaking a run game, talks about
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: how we're giving up a buck thirty a game, and
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: you know, early stats they can even out they can
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: you know, it's only four games, sure, but the Browns
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: are holding people to seventy yards a game. So clearly,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: now some of that is who they're playing or whatever.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: But like now, they don't run We run it for
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: about a buckle nine, they run it for about eighty five.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: We're pretty close as far as like throwing, you know,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: passing yards. But this one's weird because they're only averaging
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: fourteen points a game where we're averaging twenty five and
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: a half. But as we know, two of those touchdowns
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: you know, we're rogers, you know. And I'm not talking
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: about Aaron, I'm talking about our guy. So it's like
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I said, early stats, four games, well, in one game
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: we had two defensive you know, touchdowns, So that twenty
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: five is not we don't have that good of an offense.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: We're not average. We're not going to average twenty five
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: games the rest of the year the way it's going
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: at all, So that's got to be something. It seems
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: like the fourth quarter in two out of the four games,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: the first and the last, we did get something going.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: There's this stat here on Fox Sports that said the
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: vikings fifty seven yards after the catch when trailing inside
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: four minutes are the most in the NFL. So so
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: you know, the yards have to catch a lot of
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: that is get rid of the ball quickly. So therefore
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: the talent can do what it needs to do. We
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: gotta get off to a good start. That's obvious, right,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: you want to do that anyway. But the Browns, according
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: to fox Fax Fox Sports Facts, the Browns have zero
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: passing touchdowns in the first half, which are the fewest
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. And you know, QB raiding passer rating,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: it is what it is. They haven't been doing all
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: that good. Joe Flacco's in the house. They got Judkins,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: they got Judy who's actually had some good games against us.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: But you know, Flacco doesn't scare me. But you know,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: if going back to it, if they can run the ball,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: he is a guy that can be very serviceable. And
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't even want to I'll let you
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: talk about Marles Garrett. H Yeah, they got beat up
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: last week. They randomly did beat as a seven and
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: a half point underdog. They beat Green Bay. As we
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: saw how that played out, they lost a one as
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: a four and a half point underdog, they lost a
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: one point game to Cincy, so basically detrouit. When they
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: played high level teams Baltimore Detroit, they just got pounded.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: But the other two teams have been really close. And
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: as we know that Bengals Week one, they did have
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: you know, their guy, so it was a different team
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: than we played. And then you know, as we know
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: how that went, it was just a weird game anyway.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: So it's basically kind of a pick and Gabe, I
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: did notice because Pittsburgh has a good fan base, just
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: like us, and that was a lot more even than
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: it has been because you know, usually the Vikingspan kind
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: of rule Europe. That was not the case. Now, will
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Cleveland fans travel, we'll see. We are three and a
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: half point favorites. The over under looks like an Iowa
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Minnesota game from a couple of years ago here in
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: thirty six and a half, And I may go under
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: on that. I don't know because it's like, well, I
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: mean maybe, so you know, this is a this is,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: like I said, I mean, a must win. And just
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: because they're only giving up seventy yards rushing or whatever
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean that we won't. You know, we have to
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: still try to run the game and open it up.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: And I do expect shorter passing, you know, heading into
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: this game, I do expect having some little little dump
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: offs or something more to to get confidence. I'll say
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: it again. I liked what you said about Jefferson, how
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: they were just getting the ball early to him. He
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: had a good game, but yeah, we got to kind
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: of go West Coast on him, and maybe if they
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: are stopping the run, maybe we do go not full
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: West Coast, but you know that was the whole idea
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: of the West Coast. You can get five yards kind
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: of like a five yard run and it spreads them
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: out a little bit.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. And now will Couick KOs do it?
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Is the question really his glorious system to to deal
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: with Miles Garrett, who's terrifying at this point. If we
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: had O'Neill and Garris on, you know, our our offensive
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: line in a decent shape, I wouldn't be as worried
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: about it. But like you mentioned before, we hit record,
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: it's like, what do you move garrisa wherever? Garrett goes.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: You know, it's gonna you put him against cool all day.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: It's got a Hall of fame in one game. You know,
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: not that he isn't already headed there, but yeah, that's
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: gonna not be good at all. Uh So, yeah, I
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: like the under just because of that. I think Chris
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: is I just don't think you're gonna put up much
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: points against them, because you will have a pretty staunch
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: pass rush and that's where we make our hay under.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: O'Connell is throwing the ball, So whether he's gonna dedicate
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: himself to running the football or not, and then what
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: do you do? Do you run at Garrett or do
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: you run away from them? You know the age old question.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Do there?
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: But Derrisa is the only player on that line I
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: think that can handle them. So hopefully they'll well not hopefully,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: but definitely they're gonna probably keep him away from Darrison
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: and choose four other options for him to rush the
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: passer under barring any real I don't know, miracle. I
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: guess that being Koc adapting the system or these offensive linemen,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: you know, coalescing and playing above their heads. I just
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: don't see a big offensive day for us, So now
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: goes down to the defense. Can you stop Flacco, Judkins, Judy,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: whatever else they throw at you? I think he can
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: if you can, you know, generate a pass rush on Flacco,
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: do a better job of stopping the run or at least,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: you know, not allowing it to get you to move
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: the chains. I think you could probably handle Flacco, Judy
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: and the rest of them and keep their score down
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: as well. So you know, it might be a field
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: goal fest Chris, hopefully something like that. I just don't
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: see either team being able to to score a great deal.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: We played Flacco last year, I believe when he was
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: in Indianapolis and he was was he with the Browns
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: last year or with Indianapolis last time I remember seeing him,
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: he was with indian Yeah, I.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Think I think you're right.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we handled him pretty well, though. I think he
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: did have a chance to come back and beat us
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: and in that game. So you know, I'm also gonna
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go against the Vikings on this one. I
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: don't want to, but I just the Miles Garrett factor
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: causing you know, darrisag injuries, knock on wood just to
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: knock on wood on him causing any injuries you have enough.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: We don't need anymore. I just don't think offensively we'll
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: be able to get much together, and defensively, I think
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: that their offense surprisingly will probably score more points than
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: our offense. So I'll go something like, I don't know,
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: seventeen fourteen, something like that, and that's the high end.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: It could be ten thirteen. It could be thirteen to six,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: it could be ten to three. It could be in
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: any of those ranges, but I'll go so I'll maybe
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: split it in the middle, call it like fourteen ten
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: would be my final call. Fourteen ten Browns of Vikings
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: lose going into the by and we'll get to sit
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: and contemplate our show in the bye week about what
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: can we do to fix the lines the offensive line,
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: and maybe Crasy's already on it, who knows, But we
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: got a tackle problem here, and if going to be
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: gone for four or more weeks, especially the four coming
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: up after the buye, we've got to do something about
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: that right tackle position. So I say Browns win a
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: low scoring game.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: Even if it's twenty to sixteen, that's still under the
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: two scores I had usually write down two scores. Funny enough,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: it was close to your first score. Seventeen to thirteen
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: or twenty to sixteen, that's where we're at. But I
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: kind of like the funky like maybe it will be
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: a weird score, but I'm gonna go with the Vikes.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: I think that they're going to find a way to
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: just do enough because their defense is not good and
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: they're giving up a lot of points. I'm just I
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: think it's gonna be ugly and maybe it's seventeen sixteen whatever,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go Vikes, but definitely not confident, and
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: I do want to kind of I'm eyeballing that plus
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: number and I may juice it up and buy by
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: get it to four and a half or something like that.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: If it goes up a little bit, I'll definitely juice
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: it up like a point and a half and and
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: live with it and take the take the win if
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: they can get it. But I'm gonna go Vikings. But man,
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: I am not confident because you know, why would you
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: be right? Especially that right tackle we're gonna see him.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: You know he usually is on the left though right
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: or I guess the right on defense, but why why
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: would you know? I'm sure he can do I'm sure
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: he'll just switch it up like that. They're obviously gonna
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: do it, and you know we're gonna have to put
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: in you know, and then you know a guy that
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: could help protect his CJ Ham. He's been hurt, you know.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: So I don't know, I'm not confident about it, but
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say they're gonna somehow grind it out and
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: get the wind. But yeah, not not all that confident.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Now let's go to more positive things. The budding rivalry
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: with the Ruggers Scarlet Knights in the Minnesota Gophers. You know,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: they they started out playing off coverage, not getting enough
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: pressure beyond maybe two kind of shaky passes eighth and
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: started out hot. The wide receivers will make it. You know.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: He threw a shark, really sharp pass in the end zone.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Wide receivers they got, well, they got three of them
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: really that are pretty good, but two of them are
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: really good and they I think they came in the
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: game averaging forty two points or something like that. So
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: they can move when they're on schedule. It's a tough
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: offense to deal with. Their problem is defense. But it
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: was fourteen a zip. It's funny. I have I had
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: the plus six and a half with Ruggers right, I'm like, okay,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think we should be a I think it
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: got down to like four and a half, but it
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: was like five and a half, and I just I
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: was like, nah, I'm going six and a half. But
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: then when they got the fourteen of zip, I had
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: watched the Iowa game and I had watched another game.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: I can't remember who they played now, but I knew
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: they didn't have a good defense. So I was like, wait, dude,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: it flipped. A live game flipped till we were we
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: were all of a sudden like a like an eight
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: and a half underdog or something like that. Like I
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: don it was. It just flipped. And so I already
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: had the plus six and then all of a sudden
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: it flipped. It was a oh, it was a plus
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: nine and a half. So when it was fourteen to zero,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: and you know, betting wise, historically, that was the first
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: time in thirty years we came down from a fourteen
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: point deficit. And we kept having to come back too,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: so we kept being down. But I grabbed the plus
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: nine and a half the other way, going nah, we'll
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: be in the game. I didn't think we'd win when
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: we were down fourteen sip. I gotta admit, I was like, this,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: can me tough because they're gonna keep scoring that that's
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: what they do. But we did make adjustments. We had
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: that deep ball that really sparked it off. Carry Brown
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: had a nice pick Athan, Like I said, he looked
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: good right away. I think he was like nine and nine,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: and then he wasn't so sharp. Carry Brown came off
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: as guy. I think they were in a zone, returned
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: it a little bit and beautiful pass, you know, and
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: catch by Brockington. So so all of a sudden, fourteen
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: and fourteen and in that nine and nine start went
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: from one and seven. So and cooy in Calle is
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: they don't they know you're wearing a helmet, so sometimes
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: you're gonna contact heads, you know, it could have been called.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: It would have been called in the pros. But he
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: had a really nasty sacked there. But my point is
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: when we were down, I didn't think we were gonna
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: win at that point, but I wasn't like selling, you know,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: all the way, and for you to come in that
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: came at like more than a field goal favorite and
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: then it flips the nine and a half underdog. I
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: understood why they did that, but something just told me,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: you know what, I already won this bet. I think
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna win this bet. I ended up winning both bets.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: It's that long story short. We weren't too good on
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: third down. Then we finally got going and it was
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: just they had a really nice drive. There was almost
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: a pick twice on their drive. They got back up
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: twenty one to fourteen. Cooy had a great kickoff return.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: But you know, as Drake Lindsay continues here, we put
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: the trust in him, no doubt. But when he had
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: a like a a real like a fifty five yard return,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: he joked that first tackler and he was he got
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: a long kickoff, and there was eight seconds left, and
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: I would have liked them to target the sidelines and
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: and just pick up five eight yards or whatever, because
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be off a little bit, and you know,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: the field goals fifty yard. We missed it. But to me,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: I think that at some point they're just gonna be
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: able to do that. They're gonna they're gonna be like,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: all right, Drake, They're not gonna be tight on you.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: We're just something you get something and I get it,
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: like it's only eight seconds left. But I would have
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: liked to seen us get it a little closer. But
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: you know, it is what it is. It is what
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: it is. It's no big deal. But the second half,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: you know, you could in the first half too, but
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: you could just see Aaron, I'm a little long winded here,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: but but you know me for years, I'm long winded.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: But you could just see them taking away our run.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: So many people in the box and before these last
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: two years, now, last year and this year, we would
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: have tried to take the square and and jam it
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: into the circle, you know, and just nope, it's not working. Okay,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: we shave a little off, and we would have kept
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: trying to run, trying to run. You know. The red
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: shirt freshmen did get a couple of nice runs when
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: we needed it, but overall, in the second half, they
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: said go get them, and we threw the ball forty.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: One time, yeah, and managed to win the game. I
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: thought it was a really fun game to watch. I
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: thought at fourteen zero hour was I was like, yeah,
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: oh my god, really this is this is not what
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: it's shaping up to be. And then they made some
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: sort of adjustments and fought their way back in the
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: game and then just had to keep you know, grinding
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: it out. But I thought it was fun to watch,
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: particularly the second half where you know, it was just
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: back and forth, and I thought both quarterbacks were playing
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: pretty well. Lindsey continues to surprise me. Uh, just the
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: grit and being able to actually be a quarterbacks. He's
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: not like Morgan. You know, there's still you know, bigger
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: route for him. Frost, yeah, get being able to get
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: him get his receivers the ball. I thought that Tracy
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: kid was was really an eye opener for me because
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: I had known about Jalen Smith a little bit just
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: watching the first few games of the season, and then
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: Tracy kind of comes on and he made plays in
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: those first few games too, but I thought he really
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: made the big play here with the stretch against the
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: end zone. Rockington's been around for a while battle injuries.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: I thought he played really well. You're right they took
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: away the run, which if I was playing the Gophers,
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: I do the same thing exactly, but this time, you're right.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: They they said, all right, fine, we're gonna make you
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: pay for it, and finally they could you know, I think,
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: you know, with Brozemerg kind of leading into to Lindsey. Now, Uh,
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: maybe Fleck is you know, moving away from you know,
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: three yards in a cloud of dust that he was
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: kind of stuck in just because you I mean, we
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: got number one on the schedule, We're gonna see them
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: next week, we got number two on the schedule, we'll
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: see them in two three weeks. And they're teams that
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: throw the ball and run, you know, stretch the field
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: and whatnot, and have athletes everywhere, and you have to
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: compete at least with them, and so you have to.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: You know, Washington's another team like that that's pretty well ranked.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: Michigan your face, and the nation's best outside of the SEC.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: And at this point it's a toss up between which
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: conference is better, the SEC or the Big Ten. You
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: could do a whole show on that. But you know,
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: it was a fun game to watch. I'm glad we won.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: I think it'd be a whole little different twist if
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: you barely lost that game. I thought defensivelys were really
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: stuck out for me, just the athletes, the defense that
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: we're able to play. Now we've watched this program kind
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: of progress, uh, and we always thought, well, you know,
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: you've got to have the defensive lineman, you've got to
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: have athletes on defense. And we've been kind of monitoring it,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: and I've been kind of down on the defensive line.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: I think they've actually got their best defensive line under
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: Fleck right now. You could probably say twenty nineteen. But
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: I really like these athletes a little bit better. Smith
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: and some of the other guys. They've got actually getting
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: you know, big league pressure on guys. It'll be a
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: true test next week in Ohio State maybe to see
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: where you're at. I don't think you're at their level,
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: but you know, can you compete? Are they gonna put
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: a fifty on you? Are you gonna get? You know,
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: how's that gonna go? Of course you'd like them to
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: win the game, the Gophers, but you know, stranger things
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: have happened. But yeah, I mean we always say this
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: going into Ohio State, Chris, I think every time we
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: go into the.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: Show, I know exactly what you're gonna say.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: Like, man, you know, it'd be great to win this one,
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: but I just I don't see it's not in the cards.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna semi pro team over there.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: Uh, just make it respectable. Respectable.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: You know. I thought, you know what, we always come
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: out and look like, hey, we got a shot in
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: these games, you know, first quarter, first first half, and
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: then something happens and then the floodgates opened for the Buckeyes.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I just I like where we're at, and
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: I like, you know, there was some news I saw.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: I think I read an article today on the twenty
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: twenty four recruiting class and what a what a jewel
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: that's turned out to be. Yeah, and it really has it,
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: and you'd think that under all the changes and whatnot.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: But once they figured out that nil Chris, it just
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: kind of kicked up a notch and that was a
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: lot I think for Minnesotans to kind of grasp.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: But you know, I think, yeah, exactly, and it's not
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: I wasn't donating the first year, you.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, but I was like, do you want to
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: watch blueouts or do you want to what do you
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: want to do here? Folks? It's up to you. You know.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: I don't like five and seven myself.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: And we are like eight years into flag now. Man,
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: he's not going anywhere, so you gotta embrace it. And
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: I think that you know he gets criticism, fine, I
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: mean all coaches are going to get criticism, sure, but
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: I think for for where we're at right now, uh,
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: I think it's about the best. I mean, we could
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: get up in that higher echelon, and it'll take a
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: few things for that to happen, like some really great recruiting,
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: some good you know, some good deals and being able
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: to pay some kids and get really high. Yeah, but
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: I mean these teams have been I mean, Oregon, I
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: guess Rose in the last ten years, so it's possible.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: But the Ohio State's been there since the seventies, man
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: and always been a top team in the country. So yeah,
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, you've got the next few games, the next
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: month or so is really gonna be a lightning one.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I thought a great win on Saturday. You
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: needed to beat Rutgers kind of even it up. It's
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: kind of our new rivalry now just because of familiarity
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: with all the coaching staff and so on. So it's
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: good to beat them, and you know, we go into
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: the horseshoe. Chris, I'm not going to make any predictions
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: as far as a win, but I'll say, you know,
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: we'll keep it respectable don't get blown out, and you know,
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: play to win. You never know what can happen, get
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: some turnovers. You know, it'll be tough though, because we
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: could have beat Michigan last year in that same thing situation,
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: and you know, just the referees didn't want it to happen.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: So, you know, but they were down last year though.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, let's get to a different team. Let's
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: take it to him in the horseshoots. Just see what happens.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And you know another thing about Lindsay that
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: liked like his pocket presence needs to improve and when
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: to run and when not to take it. He had
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: a couple of times where he's like, hey, that's seven yards.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: He'll he'll learn that. But the tempo, like, I mean
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: just saying that, doesn't that sound stranger? We we temp
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: You got a guy flashing signals and it's tent. We're
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: playing tempo on offense. And I was like, who okay
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: this dude, Okay, he's he's under control. And you know,
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: we talked about when we're in that range of a
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: season where we need to get those six wins, talk
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: about those those you know whatever twelve to fifteen bull
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: practices well, last year they usually give the vets that
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: first week they kind of get some rust off from
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: the little break after the season, and usually the young
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: players really get it going. And last year they gave
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: Drake Lindsay, they said, this week you're the starting quarterback.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: And so they was just like a test trial and
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: probably a test trial be like, okay, so what kind
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: of vet do we got to bring in here? You know,
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: And they liked what they saw. And you know, he's
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: already had two springs, so he's had reps. But the tempo, man,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, we're running tempo? Is
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: this really happening? So but yeah, as far as Ohiose state,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting. You know, they have speaking of
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: a young quarterback too, Julian's saying they got a dude
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: named Bo Jackson running the ball. Not not not Bo
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: Jackson's son though. Okay, so don't worry about that. But
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: they got Jeremiah Smith. He's a stud. You know. Their
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: safety it's just crazy. They like you said, they got
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: talent everywhere. Caleb Downs that safety. When Saban left, they
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: lost a couple guys and that's one of them. That
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: dude's going pro this year. But one thing I noticed,
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: they are letting the youngster because they got Jeremiah Smith
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: and Tate at wide receivers. They always have wide receivers,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: as we know. They also have a h an offensive
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: line of ours. That's the one guy we lost last year.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: But you know, I digress. But one thing I've known
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: or seen. You know, Texas has a nasty defense, but
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: their offense isn't work in progress. It's really nowhere near
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: what they thought with Arch and all that. Maybe he'll
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: get better this year, we'll see, but that so that's
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: one game, right and you thought, God that that'll have
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: state defense is nasty. Look what they did and then
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: you see our chat problems against mediocre teams. They finally
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: had a big scoring game. But he just we'll see,
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: you know, we'll see where he's at this year. But
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: I noticed that Ohio hung with them a little bit
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: and then they blew the doors off them thirty seven
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: and nine. Now, last year they were in what is
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: it Spokane, Washington, I think where the stadium is right
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: there on the bay. And you know, it was three
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: zero for a while Washington, and it was seven to three,
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: I believe at half and slowly but surely, like I said,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: they're giving this young guy time to grow and in
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: the meanwhile they'll just beat you up. And that's what
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: they did, and pretty sure, pretty soon they only got
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: another field goals twenty four to six. So they're speaking of,
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: like you said, if we come to play early. They
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: have been slow starting. And if you look at in
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: the last well under Day, their coach who just won
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: the Chip last year, they tend to start slow and
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: maybe they're saving stuff for the big games that of
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: course that's true, but they start slow and they get
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: better as the season goes, and we saw that last year.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: We are twenty four point underdogs. The over under is
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: forty four and a half. Though it's you know whatever
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: that means, but yeah, it's I just think that it's
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: gonna be a great, great experience for this youngster to
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: go to Eugene at Oregon in November, to play at Iowa,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: and of course to play this weekend. So you know,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: hopefully we can scheme some stuff up. We gotta be
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: able to run the ball. I will say that we
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: do these last two years. It's great to pass and
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: pass to run and all that, but you know, without tailor,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: you know, the Femi, the red shirt freshman, he looks
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: like he's going to be good to go for the future.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: And now he was really starting to do something against
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: in that game too. We probably should have turned to
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: him earlier and get the play action going. But like
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: you said, Ohio State's gonna win the game. But Penn
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: State was pretty good last year. I mentioned Michigan not
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: being the same team. They're a little bit more back.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: This year. They got a true freshman that they're trying
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: to break in. But it does look like they're running
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: games back and but but we did hang right there
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: with Ohio State. Now we lost a lot of guys too,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: as we know, it is what five guys made a
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: roster something like that. So you know, if we can
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: just stay around, like you know, like Washington, who by
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: the way, was putting up a ton of yards and
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: then they just got shut down. So I don't know,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: you know, hopefully we keep it respectable. Maybe we won't.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know, But I think this type of stuff
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: is huge for them in general and for the youngster.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: I think you know, when you when you play these
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: type of this schedule's crazy this year, so and next
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: year it'll be different. So you know, we'll have Purdue,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: we'll have Nebraska, Michigan stayed at home at Northwestern that's
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: at Wrigley Field, which is pretty dope, and then Wisconsin's
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: at home. I think the Nebraska game in the Michigan
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: State game. Those are like kind of like ruggers, like
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: fifty to fifty games, you know, and we happen to
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: have both of them at home. So that's why I
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: was so key to get up to, you know, up
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: to three wins, you know, and we could say could
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: have would have shot all day against Cal but we
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: did we couldn't, right, So hopefully they make a respect
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: thoughle but man, if they can, if they can just
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: just play this tough or whatever, and even if not,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: maybe we'll get our blood you know, second half at
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: or ask kick whatever it is, what it is. But Purdue,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: Nebraska at Iowa, Michigan State. That happens before Oregon. And
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: the key thing is we do get a buye to
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: close the year. So before Oregon. I'm not saying we're
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: gonna beat them at all, especially at Oregon, but just
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: in general, they're a different team than us, of course,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: like you said, levels but it's nice to get that
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: buy to close it out at Northwestern and in Wisconsin
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: at home, so you know, we'll see hopefully, you know,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: there's a drive late in the second quarter that makes
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: it a game that we put together, or you know,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: just certain hopefully Lindsey in the offense. Now that it
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: does seem like the wide receivers are catching the ball
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: those first two games, but well, first, especially that first game,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: you know at Buffalo, there were some really bad drops.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: So it was nice to see Jay. I think Jalen
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: Smith already has does he already have two hundred yard games?
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: I can't remember, but Brockington's playing really well Ellen, and
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: so you know, hopefully, hopefully I'm not expecting much. Maybe
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: we can cover the spread, not get beat by more
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: than twenty four points.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be nice, though, you know, to win.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard to think about because like, yeah,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: the probability of that happened is very low, but it
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: would be a really really nice win.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Speaking of men, to have like a chance in the
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: fourth quarter would be pretty crazy. You know.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the stadium that's in Seattle, the Washington Stadium, that's
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: one of my top three.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know why if Thatt Spokane. But that is
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: right now. That is a great stadium.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: And you know, top three for me is that stadium Boulder,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: and then you know good old Golden Golfers just because
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: it's it's home. So two Ohio teams this week, one
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: in London, one in Columbus. We'll talk about it next week.