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Elvis Was a Natural Born Mystic and Magician | Miguel Conner - Off The Record Ep. 002 · Sky Signal

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of the
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Off the Record podcast. I'm joined today by Miguel
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Connor, famed of Aon Byte, Gnostic radio, prolific author,
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voice actor, wrote the new book The Occult Elvis, which I highly
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recommend you pick up. I will put links to the books,
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to all of his books and all of his links in the video
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description. Miguel, thank you so much for
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coming on the show today. How are you doing?
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Doing good, thanks for having me on man.
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Awesome. Well, it's a real pleasure to
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have you. I've been a fan of Aon Byte for
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quite some time. My channel has been dedicated
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specifically for the last couple years to just kind of exploring
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the Anunnaki stuff. But in my research for doing
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this, I came across Gnosticism and your podcast was one of the
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first things I ever came across. I think I found you on Spotify
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back around 2020 and I really enjoyed what you were doing and
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I've been a fan ever since. So tell us a little bit about
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yourself, your journey, how you came to Gnosis and and how that
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all came about for you. Oh, man, that's a long story.
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A long story that still has no end.
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I mean, I guess you could say I'm a seeker.
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I was always a seeker. I was always, even as a kid,
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asking questions about life and God and all that.
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I think first moments of gnosis, I remember being five year, five
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years old and walking with my mom, I think it was Mexico City,
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and seeing a dead bird and asking my mom, what's up with
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this? You know, nature's supposed to
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be, you know, you're 5. And my mom explaining life and
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me saying, well, is that it? That doesn't seem right.
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And I've continued my journey, always an outsider, always a
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misfit, always trying different things throughout my life.
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I was raised Roman Catholic, but my mom, again, was very
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ecumenical. So I was always allowed to
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explore other mythologies and religions.
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And I wore many mythologies and religions throughout my life and
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my search. But to me, Gnosticism just seems
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like the fit as a as an aesthetic, as an ethics, as a
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theology. And I've been promoting this
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heresy for many, many moons. And again, I'm still a seeker.
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I don't know more than you do or any other person.
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I'm trying to take the inner journey, I'm trying to find sure
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footing in this universe, this cold universe, and I'm trying to
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spread a little light and hopefully wake other people up
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to their own potential and their own designated path.
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I love that that term seeker because that's a word that I've
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used to describe myself many, many times.
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I even I have the, the tears for my Patreon and my channel
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memberships. We one of the main one is seeker
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everybody, we're all seekers. We're all seeking something.
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We're seeking that that ultimate truth.
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Much like you, I wasn't raised Catholic.
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I was raised evangelical Christian.
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Now my dad was Catholic growing up, but he left the Catholic
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Church. I think he was like old school
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East Coast Catholic, but he left Catholicism probably when he was
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much younger and went the Protestant route.
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But we went to church a lot growing up.
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I mean, every Sunday, every Wednesday.
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But one of the things I do give my parents credit for is when I
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turned 18, they never, they never forced me to keep going to
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church. You know, they told me like, if
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you want to keep going, you can. If you don't think this is for
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you, you don't have to. And you know, after a while, I
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just, I decided I wasn't finding the answers to the questions
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that I had there. And that's when I kind of split
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from that. But I didn't come across the I,
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I had no idea. But the ideas, the ideas in
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Gnosticism until 2019-2020, I didn't know that any of this
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stuff existed. All these books that were not
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put into the Bible, all these ideas that didn't make it into
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the, you know, modern Christianity.
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So when did you first come across these ideas?
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I think first time when I was in college, I went to a Roman
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Catholic school, St. Thomas in Houston, and I
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remember the priests, the professor sort of mentioning
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Gnosticism, all these strange Christians who believed in
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reincarnation, stay away from them.
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It was like he was reading from a script, like he, I don't think
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he believed it. He was he had a PhD.
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But it's something that they had to say.
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This part of the marching orders.
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I never gave it much thought, but it was only probably around
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the Da Vinci Code era when Cathars and Knights Templars
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started being really big. You also had the release of the
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Gospel of Judah. So there was something in the
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air and I was curious and started learning about that.
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But also alternative Christianity and occultism and
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so forth. But I think pretty much what
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sent me through, and that even this is even after reading the
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Nag Hammadi library, was probably Philip K Dick.
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When I read his his novel Valles, it just made sense.
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I was like, OK, now I get Gnosticism.
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Now I see why it's relevant and it's part of our world, why it's
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useful and so forth. So yeah, I would say Philip K
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Dick really sent me on it. But again, I'm still learning.
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Gnosticism is like jazz it it takes a long time to understand.
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Or what Jimi Hendrix said about the Blues.
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Blues are easy to play but hard to feel.
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You can study all you want, but you need to feel it and you need
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those experiences. And I did have a few Gnostic or
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Gnostic adjacent experiences during ayahuasca trips,
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meditation sessions and other work to sort of support that.
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Yes, we are living in a simulation, the inner journey is
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what matters and we are all fragments of a divine mind.
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And at the end of the day, we're all frauds and we are, we are
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slaves to higher power. Just like, well, if we were
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under the Anunnaki. What's it?
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Nothing has really changed, has it?
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I've always been a fan of science fiction and, you know,
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stuff like all the stuff that Philip K did did that was ported
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over into our modern media, modern movies.
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Minority Report Scanner Darkly was another really good one.
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I love the way they did that one with the rotoscoping.
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There seems to be a real like pervasive, this gnostic idea
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that makes its way into modern media.
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And I know you've made videos before about, you know, breaking
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down all the movies where we see it.
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And then everybody knows the Matrix.
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That's the that's kind of the big one, But there's so much
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more. It gets so much deeper than
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that. We see it kind of kind of
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everywhere, but most people don't.
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They don't really understand what they're seeing, but it it
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seems to resonate with people on a really deep level.
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Yeah, for sure. I mean, without a doubt, Gnostic
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minded people like Philip K Dick and William Burroughs and Carl
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Jung really have influenced our modern culture.
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They were hugely influenced in the spiritual and artistic vibe
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of so many Gen. X and Baby Boomers and even
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millennials. I mean, everybody has been
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influenced by Blade Runner, Total Recall, Minority Report,
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that those ideas are as relevant today.
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And Philip K Dick and his technosticism are behind it.
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And these film makers and artists and writers continue to
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pour these very Gnostic ideas, whether it's a Black Mirror or
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the show Silo or Severance. I mean, it's all there.
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And of course the climax, you might say the pivotal point
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might be the late 90s with movies like The Matrix, The
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Truman Show, 13th Floor, Dark City.
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Again, these Philip K diagnostic movies just culminated and
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really became our most powerful modern modern mythologies
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without a doubt. I mean, you can't deny that Star
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Wars and all that has gotten comic books are going by the
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wait side, but films like The Matrix and so forth still are so
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damn impactful and they are indeed very gnostic.
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It's almost like it's no no accident that they came out in
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the late 90's, the turn of the Millennium, the millennial fever
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where humanity is looking for its next 1000 years and so
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forth. So without a doubt, and there is
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a truth about it. Mythologies aren't just nice
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stories, they're the language of the spirit.
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They are the stories that give us meaning.
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They are the history behind history.
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They may not have happened, but they are true.
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And in these movies you do see how relevant Gnosticism is.
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You just look at the precepts of Gnosticism.
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We live in a simulation. We are controlled by some higher
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stellar beings, but also these beings have installed false
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selves or viruses in our head, which the Gnostics call the
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counterfeit spirit, call it Witiko and so forth.
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We are realizing that we are all of us trapped by some force and
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that no one is coming to save us unless we take an inner journey
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to find our inner Jesus. If you would.
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The Gnostics always said don't wait for the resurrection.
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You must resurrect before you die.
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You see Christ, you must become the Christ.
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The idea of the Archons is closer to how algorithms or AI
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work today, especially when you start reading the Gnostic texts.
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We're seeing reality is not just a block Newtonian thing, it is a
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layered fluid thing which the Gnostics warned about as well as
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a simulation 2000 years ago. And they got, you know,
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persecuted because of this. So we are seeing that we need a
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divine feminine in Christianity and the Abrahamic faiths with
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the Gnostics promoted over and over again with the Gnostics
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were advocating morrising are true, but more seeing how
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relevant it is today. And again, figures like Philip K
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Dick, William Burroughs, Grant Morris, and Carl Jung saw that
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and sort of repackaged Gnosticism in a modern way that,
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again, I think is extremely relevant, especially as our very
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reality and civilization collapses in real time around
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us. Yeah, man, one of my favorites
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actually was Westworld, which. I was a fan of.
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The show before I even knew anything about Gnosticism.
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And then when I started to read about, you know, the
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noncommoding text and, and get into it and learn all these
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ideas, then I it all kind of clicked me.
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I was like, that's basically what they're talking about in
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here. You know, you got these hosts
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that they keep coming back and all their memories get wiped and
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they got to start over again. But they've got all this like
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trauma from every time they've been, you know, messed with
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every iteration they do in the park.
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And it's man, it's just crazy. But I'm, I'm a millennial.
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I'm what they call an elder millennial.
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I was born in 1983. So I was 16 years old when The
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Matrix came out. I saw it in theaters and it just
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blew my mind. Absolutely blew my mind.
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I was, I was the perfect age for that movie.
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I think that was the the target audience was my generation right
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there. It is, it is.
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And there's no doubt Wachowskis tapped or knew about Philip K
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Dick and Grant Morrison and others.
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And even then, it doesn't matter.
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It's like, again, once these figures and ideas influence you,
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it just effects again a whole generation of film makers and
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artists and writers. And again, Gnosticism is a very
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important part of it, I would say.
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Did you see that most recent Matrix sequel they made Lana
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Wachowski make? They basically told her like,
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oh, you're going to make this movie or we're going to make it
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with somebody else. It was a disaster.
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I mean, I didn't like the first movie is fine.
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It should have just ended there. I I could it would have been
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fine. The other two are fine.
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They're entertaining. I love the philosophies, but
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it's pretty much unnecessary. It's like the sequel to Blade
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Runner. God, it's a good film, but it's
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not necessary. I never watched 2049.
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I've been really hesitant. People tell me like, don't watch
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it, it's not worth it. I've probably seen maybe six of
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the different versions of the original 1 because I know
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there's all different kind of versions with different titled
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fonts for the for the opening credits and all that.
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And one with a Unicorn scene that wasn't supposed to be in
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there. I it was like reused footage
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from legend or. Something Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a good, it's a good film,
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but again, unnecessary. But it is a wonderful film.
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I would. I would watch.
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So I want to talk about your book for a second here, The
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Occult Elvis. Now, I'm a slow reader, so I'm
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only about halfway through it. I haven't finished it yet.
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What inspired you to write this book?
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I mean, I'm guessing you're a fan of Elvis.
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No, no, I had no choice. I had no choice.
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Like the it's been cut out, but the original release of Pulp
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Fiction has a very famous scene where there you have Vincent
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Vega, John Travolta, and you got the Mia Therma character and
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she's filming him in their house before they go on their date.
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Mia Wallace is her name and she goes, there are only two type of
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people in this world, Elvis people and Beatles people, and
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they can like each other, but you have to make a choice and it
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will say what kind of life you are.
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Later it gets referenced so people watch it today or like,
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why is she bringing this Elvis person again?
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But I've always been a Beatles person.
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I oh, sorry, I was a Beatles person all my life.
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But as John Lennon said, Speaking of The Beatles, life
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happens when you're busy making other plans.
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And that's what happened. It was 2023 again.
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I started having a series of a voice came in my head and it got
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amplified after I'd done some ayahuasca ceremonies in Portugal
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with the Santo Diamond Church. Suddenly there were all these
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Elvis synchronicities and this voice in my head, head just kept
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hounding me. And it was Elvis.
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And so I finally gave in because as I've learned from Plato's
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divine madness, when a God possesses you, you have two
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choices. Do what they say and it's gonna
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be painful. Don't do what they say and it's
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gonna be extremely painful. So I chose the less pain.
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So I sat down one February, I think it was 2024, and I within
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three months, I'd written the whole book.
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It just, it was, I don't say channelled.
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I'd like to say quantum entangled with Elvis.
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And I immediately send it to the first publisher and they took it
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so and here we are. So it was.
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I was chosen for this task and now I'm an Elvis person 'cause
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it was. I didn't know much about Elvis.
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I knew about his esoteric slants and I'd studied it, talked to
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people about it, but I didn't know how deep the rabbit hole
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went. It was incredible.
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He truly is our modern space age Messiah, the egregore of the
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American dream, America's shaman, America's magician,
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probably the most powerful modern magician we've had, much
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more than Crowley or John Dee or any of those cats.
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And so that was my mission. And I, I thought it was over,
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but then another voice came to me and said I had to write about
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Elvis 2 point O. And I was like, who the hell is
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Elvis 2 point O? It was David Bowie.
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So now I've finished writing the David Bowie book, kind of the
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sequel to this, and that book will be out probably at the end
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of the year. Wow, that's crazy that, that
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you, you started out as not even a fan of Elvis and you just, and
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you just got that, that voice in your head that basically, like
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you said, the quantum channeling to write the book 'cause that's,
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it's serendipitous because that's what you're talking
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about. The type of person that Elvis
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was that he was just kind of like he had to be this person.
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He had to be this this prolific person just due to whatever
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higher forces out there that kind of sets us all in motion.
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Yeah, as I often say when people ask what's enlightenment, it's
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just learning to listen. That's it.
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Part of our journeys to quiet our monkey brain, the monkey
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voices, our ego and realize that the universe is always talking
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to us. Our soul is talking to us.
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The gods are to whatever you want to call it.
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Your mileage may vary. And it has a specific mission.
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And that mission is what we're supposed to do.
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All of us have a sacred duty or what you what you want to call
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it. And, and if we quiet, if we shut
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up for once, which most of us, including myself, don't do
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often, all will be revealed or the path will be shown to us.
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And we must take this path because it is part of the, the
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healing of the universe. And again, what our what our
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quest, what our mission is on this world.
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I always like what you know, in the limits, always do what I
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will. And the philosopher
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Schoppenhauer famously say man can do what he will, but he
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cannot will what he will. Something is driving and moving
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us. And if we quieten and I, I, you
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know, I never expected it would be Elvis.
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I never expected it would be David Bowie.
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But I did it, and there's always a prize to play.
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But I am honored and grateful to be serving the spirits.
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There's no guarantees of happiness or money or anything
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else. But again, you are part of, as I
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call it, Sophia's rescue operation to release the sparks
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of light from the world. But we all have it.
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I am no more important than you, Jason, or any listener.
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We all have an important role because that's how it is.
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Man, I couldn't agree more because that's yeah, I know you
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and I are just now meeting. You don't really know anything
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about me, but that's, that's kind of how I've lived my life.
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I've never really had a set thing.
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I never had like some specific thing that I want to do.
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I'm a musician. I always kind of wanted to be a
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musician since I was a kid. And I've spent time, I've been
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in bands and toured across the country, East Coast to West
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Coast. And it was all just like taking
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those opportunities as they came up and just kind of going with
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the flow. And I was in the Army for 10
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years. I just, you know, I've done all
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kinds of different jobs and now I'm doing this, this show on
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YouTube and this podcast. And it's just kind of I've, I've
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always felt like I'm just going to be doing what, what I'm
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supposed to be doing, you know, and if something else pops up
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and, and presents a path, I just, I do that.
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It's How I Met my wife. We, we met on the Internet and
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she was in Canada and now she's here in Texas with me.
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We've been married since 2021. I, I never thought I would get
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married in a million years. I was, you know, 36 years old,
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37 years old. And I was like, I'm not that
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ship has sailed. No, guess it hadn't.
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You know, she's a musician too. We did some music together.
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We still make music together. It's, it's interesting that you
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wrote this book the way you did because in reading it, I didn't
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know any of this stuff about it. I didn't know that he had any
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connection to the occult whatsoever.
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And apparently he was into the, you know, Helena Blavatsky and
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all that stuff. How did you come to find out
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about this and and, you know, synthesize all that information?
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I already knew about it. I mean, there was a time in my
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life when I was, again, as I was learning about Gnosticism, I was
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learning about occultism and I was realizing, oh, look at all
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these rock stars are into the shit.
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You know, David Bowie was into Thelema and occult Nazism, The
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Beatles were into Hinduism, Led Zeppelin was also into Crowley
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and so forth. And I came across Elvis and
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yeah, he was into Theosophy and. So forth.
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But I sort of shelved it like these eccentric rock stars got
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to do what they got to do. That's what that's part of their
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magic, right? Going into the dark side and the
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edges of theology. And I didn't think again, I
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didn't think much about it. But when the voice came to, I
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was like, my God, he was really into this stuff.
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I mean, this Taoism, he knew about Gnosticism.
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He read the Gospel of Thomas and the Nag Hammadi Library.
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He was really into Manly P Hall, numerology, astrology, I mean
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you name it and Elvis was studying.
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He was actually a he almost had like a scholarly mind.
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He could consume books and really understand ideas and hold
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them up together when he was, you know, touring places like
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Vegas. So we see shows in Vegas and all
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that. He always had a group of workers
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carrying like 100 books into the occult so he could read them and
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he was into meditation and all that.
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But beyond that, he was a natural born Mystic.
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He could astral travel. He could heal with his hands.
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He could go into trances, He could manipulate the weather.
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I mean, he was just all over the place and just an incredible
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Mystic that defies all logic and kind of makes sense.
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I mean, nobody. You always look at Elvis, you go
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at some point luck and talent can't be enough.
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We're talking the number one solo artist, somebody who's
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still as famous probably today as he always there's there's
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some kind of magic as as as the band, Hart sang.
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He's the magic man and he really is.
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And you wonder, well, what happened?
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How did nobody know? It's because, well, I mean, his,
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his normal life was so sensationalistic, it kind of got
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hidden. His fans who are mostly, again,
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conservative Christian, don't want to hear about it, but it's
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all there. I mean, I didn't go to YouTube
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conspiracy videos or tabloids or anything for the information.
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All the information on Elvis from his, again, being able to
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move clouds from me, be able to make objects move and shake from
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being able to see into the astral world that's hidden in
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plain sight. And all the big biographies,
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whether it's Priscilla, Memphis Mafia family members, they all
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witness it in different places. And often these things happen
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when there was a big group of people like, you know, he could,
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I don't know, make it snow on Christmas to impress Lisa Marie
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or something. There were Elvis was never
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alone. Let's put it, he always had a
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group of people. So it's incredible what a
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magical, mystical and surreal world he lived beyond his fame
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and all the things we know him from shooting television and the
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crowds and all that good stuff. Man, I wonder if a guy like
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Michael Jackson or Prince was something similar to that.
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Prince was pretty red pilled. I mean I've seen interviews with
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he's stalking conspiracies. He'd be, he'd be very happy
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today if you would, Michael Jackson.
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I haven't gone down that rabbit hole, but yeah, Prince I, I
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wouldn't be surprised. I know he had a he had a twin
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brother that that didn't survive that he lost his twin brother.
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Probably the most important event of his life.
23:39
It's what do you call it, a twinless survivor syndrome.
23:44
When a twin loses a twin at birth or right after that, it's
23:49
a huge psychological trauma on the person.
23:54
We think, well, they don't remember, but they do.
23:57
I mean, twins play in the womb. They're definitely soul
24:00
connected and it makes a big difference.
24:03
And when Elvis was born, he obviously was born during the
24:07
Great Depression and Tupelo, Ms. had to have the birth that house
24:12
in the little shack. I talk about their many events
24:15
in Elvis's life. He's so connected to UFOs, just
24:18
like David Bowie. But a blue light appeared over
24:21
his house while his dad Vernon was outside having a cigarette.
24:25
And you know, the, the, the air froze, the coyotes stopped
24:31
howling everything and it just appeared right over the house.
24:34
Vernon freaked out and sort of got memory wipe because
24:38
unfortunately it was a yeah, there was, it was a twin birth.
24:42
His brother Jesse came out first, but he came out
24:45
stillborn. And then Elvis was born.
24:48
And that's the beginning of the story because that was the main,
24:51
beyond the psychological trauma, that was the main driver of
24:55
Elvis's life. He that's what made him a
24:57
seeker. He was a huge seeker.
24:59
That's why he did everything he did.
25:01
He wanted to know, why did I survive and my brother died?
25:05
Why did I grow up so poor when now I'm a, you know, a
25:08
billionaire. I could have had the best
25:10
hospital. Why do other people go through
25:13
this? What's going?
25:14
And it really drove him. And he wanted to know the big
25:17
questions of life and what happened to Jesse.
25:19
And Jesse became sort of his daemon, or conscious, it would
25:23
appear to him in dreams and visions and guide them and so
25:27
forth. And it really moved him and I,
25:30
in the book, I, I you probably haven't gotten into yet, but I
25:33
compare Philip K Dick to Elvis. They had very parallel lives.
25:37
I mean, just very, very parallels.
25:39
It's eerie. You know, you wouldn't you
25:42
wouldn't think about it. But Philip K Dick is also a
25:45
twinless survivor. When he was born, soon after his
25:48
twin sister Jane died. And Philip K Dick said,
25:51
everything I write about is to try to understand Jane.
25:55
Every novel, every short story, it was, it drove em, just like
26:00
it did with Elvis, you know, and you do see that in a lot of
26:03
mythology, Jason, you've got, whether it's Remus or Romulus
26:08
and others in mythology, you see a a living twin on earth and a
26:13
dead twin in the underworld. And this mythology goes and it's
26:17
very important to for many civilizations, some say it's
26:21
because we probably, our son probably has a twin like 90% of
26:26
solar systems in the Galaxy and we won't see this twin and it
26:30
affects us as humans. But that's neither here nor
26:33
there. But both were twinless survivors
26:37
and they've done the studies and twinless survivors, Philip K
26:42
Dick, Elvis, Liberace, Peter Whitmer, the drummer of the the
26:47
Turtles. Others, there are certain
26:49
characteristics. They're very sensitive.
26:51
They're very mystical, very artistic.
26:54
However, they tend to be very self-destructive.
26:58
They have issues making relationships with the opposite
27:01
sex. They're very extreme, very, you
27:06
know, bipolar and so forth. So you already know, with people
27:10
like self-destructive people like Elvis and Philip K Dick,
27:13
it's like talking about fate. You wonder, you know, is fate
27:17
set? And both struggled with this.
27:20
No, I I've struggled with substance abuse my entire adult
27:23
life. I'm, I'm sober now.
27:25
I've been sober since 2021, but I had a real.
27:28
Problem. Developing.
27:29
Thank you. It developed when I was in the
27:31
Army because I don't, I don't know if you know much about the
27:33
US military, but it is a drinking culture.
27:36
I mean, it is a culture built around it.
27:38
And for Elvis, it was amphetamines.
27:41
That's how you got into amphetamines.
27:44
I've been down that road too. Trust me, once I once I got out
27:46
and I had access to other stuff, I was I was into other stuff
27:49
too. And it it it took me to a really
27:51
dark place and it took damn near ruining my life for me to, you
27:56
know, get it together and and finally quit.
27:58
I love that you bring up David Bowie, because that's another
28:00
one. I really feel like that guy.
28:02
I think he he must, he must have known his entire life plan ahead
28:07
of him, because I remember when, when around the time he died, he
28:12
had just put out that Black Star album and it was almost like he
28:15
was like saying goodbye, Like he was like, this is the end of the
28:17
road. And that the music video for the
28:19
Black Star song was, was just incredible.
28:22
I remember it was the the first time I ever like really tripped
28:25
on psychedelic mushrooms with a friend of mine.
28:28
We watched that that music video and it was, it was an intense
28:31
experience, but it, it felt, man, I just feel like he must
28:35
have known. Well, yeah, David Bowie knew he
28:39
had cancer for years. So this was a sort of a death
28:43
ritual or ceremony, as I argue in my upcoming David Bowie book.
28:48
He knew it's it's a Gnostic ritual.
28:50
It's tied in. I'm not the first to notice it.
28:53
Other scholars have noticed it. It's tied to the Nag Hammadi
28:56
Library, to Sophia. Same with his his other video.
29:02
David Bowie was certainly driven by visions by he was more
29:05
conscious in his Gnosticism. He'd read the Gnostic gospels
29:09
and it linked pagles and he was an acolyte of William Burroughs.
29:14
So I do show him his parallels to Elvis and Philip K Dick are
29:18
just they're eerie, eerie. They're almost the same person.
29:22
Elvis and David Bowie, these space age messiahs, these
29:26
representations of a post war modernist world who are coming
29:32
to warn us about our plight and silver.
29:34
But I get I get into the book and yet Black Star very
29:37
connected to Saturn. And I was just watching that
29:43
show Peaky Blinders, and they have this nod to David Bowie.
29:48
Whenever Thomas Shelby is gonna has somebody killed, he just
29:52
gives them an envelope with a person's name in a Black Star.
29:56
It's like, Oh yeah, yeah, that's your that's your homage to David
29:59
Bowie. So it's pretty cool.
30:01
You think Elvis like fully understood what he was, what he
30:04
was here to do and what he was becoming?
30:06
Or is it just a just a kind of go with with the with what the
30:10
universe sends you? Well.
30:12
That's a good question. He was a seeker like us.
30:15
So I mean, he was born very poor.
30:19
He, he struggled, he was abused. I mean, it wasn't an easy life,
30:24
but he was always connected to God and his family.
30:28
And then when he became famous, like many people, he thought,
30:32
well, fame, money, girls, that'll solve all my problems.
30:35
No, it didn't. Of course, the material world
30:37
won't do it. So he went into the army, came
30:41
back as a movie Elvis, and he started having a huge crisis,
30:45
spiritual crisis, existentialist crisis.
30:47
Like, OK, I am the apex predator of the entertainment world and I
30:52
hate myself. I don't know what I'm supposed
30:55
to do. And he met this spiritual
30:58
teacher. He began getting into mysticism
31:00
and he started having revelations.
31:03
He started not having to hide his mystical experiences.
31:06
And he went on a quest and he kept going.
31:09
His idea was what we talked about enlightenment.
31:12
He at one point he said, you know, I could be a religious
31:15
leader. Hundreds of millions of people
31:17
follow me. I'm going to switch to a guru
31:20
and start a religion. But he always kept saying, God,
31:24
what do you want from me? I am here.
31:26
He was he. He would humble himself and say,
31:30
you know, you tell me what to do and I will do it.
31:33
You want me to use my fame to talk about spirituality?
31:37
If you want me to give even more millions to the poor and other
31:41
charities, you tell me. So he was always seeking up
31:44
until the time he died. But again, as a, you know, a
31:48
twinless survivor, somebody who was severely abused as a child,
31:52
taking advantage. He had his demons.
31:55
He had his demons that he was always struggling with.
31:58
So it was just this dichotomy of him seeking and him trying to
32:02
struggle with the the material world, the fallen material
32:06
world. Yeah, 'cause the opposite of
32:09
that is you get the to start the religion, then you go the L Ron
32:13
Hubbard route and you end up with Scientology, which is a
32:15
very damaging, damaging thing for a lot of people.
32:19
Yeah, Elvis hated Scientology. He loved all religions because
32:23
he thought it was always man's search for the divine.
32:26
But his exception was Scientology.
32:29
He stayed away. He stayed away from it.
32:32
He, he hated, he called it the godless religion, but you know,
32:36
the Archons always kind of win in this world because after he
32:39
left, Priscilla and Lisa Marie went straight into Scientology.
32:44
He had a lot of of, you know, UFO encounters and stuff like
32:47
that. Have you ever had any encounters
32:49
with UFOs, UAP, any type of these phenomenon?
32:53
Yeah, I think Elvis I detail 3 or 4.
32:56
And again, he wasn't alone in any of them.
32:58
These are found in books of people around him.
33:01
He was very much into ufology. He'd be straight at home, right
33:05
at home today and all this chaos.
33:07
He he speculated on the ancient aliens.
33:11
He speculated on the Ezekiel's wielding A spaceship.
33:14
But he was very open minded and sophisticated.
33:17
Again, he never was like, well, it's this or that.
33:20
He's like, OK, this data text me here, maybe I should consider
33:23
this and the so forth. Yeah, I've had two, if you want
33:29
one, Mexico is a kid seeing this object fly over us in a bus on a
33:34
camping trip. And again, another one was in
33:37
Portugal, where my cousins and my son, we were, it was a
33:41
beautiful summer day. So we were walking up a mountain
33:44
and we saw, you know, sort of the the lights doing this
33:47
formation above the mountain. There were, you know, going
33:51
square and moving so fast, like stars at at an incredible speed.
33:55
And we were like, this cannot be unless it's some sort of test
33:59
craft that the government doesn't want to know.
34:01
There's nothing in this in this world moves like that and so
34:05
bright. So it could have been but I I
34:09
will have to file it under a UFO experience.
34:13
I used to be totally sold on the, the, you know,
34:17
extraterrestrial, they're from outer space, whatever.
34:19
But in in researching and studying all this, and just as
34:22
time has progressed and, and more of these phenomenon have
34:25
happened and, and come out, I'm still trying to figure all that
34:28
out. What, what do you, what do you
34:29
think about, about this? Like what in your mind?
34:31
What is this phenomenon? What are we actually dealing
34:33
with here? Because it seems to me that it's
34:35
like it's, it's very related to just human consciousness in
34:38
itself or maybe like something interdimensional.
34:41
Maybe there's AI, don't know. I don't know man.
34:45
Yeah, well, Socrates says he was, he was called the wisest
34:49
man in the world because he didn't know.
34:51
Yeah. We don't have enough data yet,
34:52
and our little monkey brains aren't ready for it or can't
34:56
explain it. I mean, let's be real.
34:58
It's always interesting how UFOs kind of mirror our society,
35:03
galactic federations. And they want to eat us and not
35:06
just like the gods, just like Zeus kind of was like, I don't
35:09
know, you know, he looked like some, you know, a mafia Lord or
35:14
something. So that's always interesting.
35:17
But at the end of the day, I, you know, when we're dealing
35:20
with these higher forces or alien forces, they are
35:23
interactive. Our cultural programming is
35:28
going to see them as we want to see them.
35:30
Like ancient people saw these this, this other, these other
35:35
forms of consciousness and they saw them as angels or gods.
35:38
We're going to see them as UFOs or flying saucers.
35:42
There is definitely an other other forms of vibration or
35:48
consciousness. Call it what you want.
35:50
Our language and our science is still limited.
35:53
We're not there yet, but there is another out there.
35:57
It does interact with us. And because of our, again,
36:01
monkey brains, we will see it as we want to see it.
36:04
But it's, as I say on my show, it's a busy universe out there.
36:07
It's a jungle. There is a lot of other forms of
36:10
intelligence and it's completely alien and beyond what we can
36:15
translate, even though we try to create flying saucers and
36:19
civilizations that look like Star Trek on other planets.
36:23
But the best thing is interact with them.
36:25
Interact with these visitors and and be careful because, you
36:30
know, we go back to the Anunnaki and the Archons.
36:33
If we can say there's one certainty in this universe,
36:38
probably more than death and taxes, is hunger feeding.
36:42
This universe runs on energy and everything needs the energy of
36:47
something else to be able to do its thing and survive.
36:51
So some of these intelligence, whether it's you call them the
36:55
Archons or the Anunnaki, we're the main course.
36:58
We're on the menu. They'll feed off our louche or,
37:01
or like the Matrix, our our electricity in our brains and
37:06
they will take from us. They will take for them.
37:08
And also the other certainty in the universe tricksters this,
37:12
whether it's machine elves or archons or anything, we're
37:16
dealing with beings that have no use for our human morality.
37:21
They have an agenda. We don't know what the agenda
37:24
is, and often it's there that again, we are their cattle and
37:29
we must sort of breakthrough whatever illusion there is.
37:32
But there's always help on the way.
37:33
There is always energy and forces, including our inner
37:37
self, that are there to help us breakthrough the Matrix or the
37:41
simulation. Well, that's the best I can.
37:44
I mean, I always say it begins and ends with the inner journey.
37:48
What did Peter, Peter Gabriel say in the carpet crawlers?
37:51
You got to get in to get out. We have Infinity within us.
37:56
If we go into our inner journey, if we learn about enlightenment,
37:59
which is listening to our soul, our voice, we'll find a way out
38:04
and we'll find a way to negotiate with these other
38:08
intelligence, consciousness, existence is out there.
38:11
But yeah, it's a busy universe out there, Jason.
38:14
When I stopped going to church, I spent, you know, quite a few
38:17
years as like the what they call the village atheist.
38:19
And that never worked for me. I couldn't, I couldn't do that
38:22
materialist reductionist framework because the way I see
38:26
it, there is some I get really annoyed with, like really smug
38:30
anthropologist that just said, oh, we're just an animal.
38:32
There's no, there is no difference between human beings
38:35
and every other animal on this planet.
38:36
I'm like, are you insane? Like what is I don't, I can't
38:40
wrap my head around this because there is something clearly
38:44
different between humanity and other animal life on this.
38:48
And I'm not saying that animals don't have, you know, souls or
38:51
parts of the divine spirit within them.
38:53
I look into the eyes of my cats and I can see it.
38:55
You know, I've had dogs, I can see it.
38:57
But there's something fundamentally different, I think
39:00
about us. I don't know if you would agree
39:02
with that or not or how you what you think about that.
39:06
Yeah, for sure. I mean, we have the ability for
39:09
metacognition, abstract thought, which as far as we know, other
39:14
animals don't know. Maybe we'll discover it's not
39:16
true. But at this point in history and
39:18
science, we have that metacognition abstract thoughts.
39:22
So that puts us in a very different place, probably, maybe
39:25
a different place than all other forms of consciousness in the
39:28
universe. And that's fine.
39:30
That's why I liked what the Gnostics and the Hermeticists
39:33
say is that we are in between heaven and earth.
39:38
What did Platinus say? We are caught between the gods
39:42
and the beasts. Or as Terry Pratchett said, we
39:45
are where the fallen Angel meets the rising ape.
39:48
We have a certain useful place in this cosmos, and we must do
39:53
our job because that's how we help the cosmos.
39:55
As Gary Lachman calls it. We're the caretakers of the
39:57
cosmos. We're not more important, these
40:00
beings up there and these animals down there from the
40:03
insect. To the mighty God, we all have a
40:07
role and our role in a way is to get the universe right.
40:12
So we do have our own place in it.
40:15
We just don't have to be arrogant.
40:17
I always like what there's a gnostic called Mani who always
40:20
said mankind is the most irredeemable animal in the
40:25
world. I would agree with we have a
40:27
shadow side. We do when we screw up, we
40:29
destroy a lot and we consume and we can put the very planet and
40:34
just pure destruction. So we have a lot of opportunity,
40:38
but we also have a big shadow side like everything else has.
40:44
Yeah, that's the part that that gets me is when people tell me
40:47
like, oh, we're just another animal.
40:48
I'm like, look at what we do to the planet.
40:51
Find me, I defy you. Find me another life form on
40:55
this planet that does what we do to the environment, for better
40:59
or worse. I mean, you can think what you
41:01
want. I don't, I don't care if you're
41:02
a climate change denier or if you're a Greenpeace, you know,
41:06
all the way like save the planet.
41:09
It can't be denied. Look at what we do to this, what
41:11
we've done to this place. It's, it is irreparably changed
41:15
since for how it was, you know, before human beings came to
41:20
civilization or how it would be if we weren't here.
41:23
I mean that's, that's undeniable.
41:26
For sure, for sure we have a dark side and a light side, but
41:30
I think everything else does too.
41:32
What do you think about you've been keeping up with the news,
41:35
all these scientists and and researchers that have been
41:37
showing up missing or, or, or dead, Have you been following
41:40
this? I have, I have and we're still
41:43
early in the investigation, but sometimes I wonder if there's a
41:48
a realignment something. Yes, obviously I believe
41:52
everything's possible. I like to throw everything like
41:56
spaghetti on the wall. Conspiracy, the alien attack,
41:59
you know, and I just stare at it and see what the best argument
42:03
is. And some arguments get stronger
42:05
as time, some get weaker. And I go by there.
42:08
But it is very curious what's happening.
42:11
But it's possible it's some sort of cosmic alignment too.
42:16
Or maybe the Archons, the rulers of this universe, are realigning
42:20
thing. They don't even have to hire
42:21
hitmen. They just make reality do what
42:24
they want, kind of like the Nordics or something.
42:27
But in 2016, it almost seems there was a realignment.
42:31
You had people again, David Bowie, Prince, so many artists
42:36
and actors were passing away. It was almost like there was a
42:39
changing of the era, which led us to obviously the era of Trump
42:44
in 2016, the era of the Trickster and so forth.
42:47
So this could be something where things are getting realigned
42:50
because, again, we're obviously in the changing of an era, so
42:55
maybe old guard, old thoughts are getting wiped out.
42:58
I mean, I just heard Pete Carroll pass, you know, one of
43:01
the founders of Chaos Magic. What a loss.
43:04
You know, we've had David Wilcock and everything.
43:06
So maybe something's changing. And again, it's a realignment of
43:11
old souls being put away and new ones coming out for some sort of
43:17
new dispensation. Maybe it's some sort of our
43:19
conic power wiping out people that are too dangerous.
43:23
Maybe it's a government conspiracy.
43:26
Maybe it's all of the above. Who knows?
43:29
Reality tends to be pretty interactive and brittle.
43:31
But again, I just go down the rabbit holes and gather data.
43:36
Don't you know if any? As I always say on my show,
43:39
we're running with those searching for the truth and
43:41
avoiding those who have found it, those who already have it
43:44
all figured out. They're like your evangelical
43:47
pastor or my Catholic priest. I don't want to deal with you.
43:51
Yeah, you got all. You got it all figured out.
43:53
You do you. I'm on my journey.
43:56
Seeking still. I've been to the Oracle at
43:58
Delphi and she told me that I am the wisest of all greens because
44:01
I alone know that I know nothing.
44:03
For some, I heard that I was like, dude, that is that's where
44:06
it's at because I can't abide the, the arrogance of people
44:09
that claim to know everything because I certainly don't.
44:11
I could be wrong about everything.
44:14
And a lot of people don't like this about me because they they,
44:16
they find me. It's hard for me to, you know,
44:17
plant my feet on something. They're like, won't you take a
44:20
stance, pick a side. I'm like, I because why?
44:23
I don't, I don't like team sports.
44:25
I never have. I don't.
44:26
The last election I voted in was 2004 and I voted for Ralph
44:30
Nader, if you can believe that. Why?
44:33
Not. It's all a waste anyway.
44:35
Yeah. I don't vote either.
44:37
I'm not giving consent to this Arconic machinery that just
44:41
farms our louche. I can't.
44:43
It's broken. Everything's broken.
44:45
That's what Philip K Diggs said. Our political systems are
44:49
broken. Our our art is broken.
44:51
The gods are broken. Reality's broken.
44:55
When we realize, we can start finding new solutions and
44:59
building new systems that will hopefully work for the common
45:03
man and the dispossessed and the powerless and everybody.
45:09
I do think you're right. I think everything is cyclical
45:11
and everything moves in cycles. And we we see this from time
45:14
immemorial and every tradition shows us this.
45:17
As you know, in Hinduism, everything is these, you know,
45:20
from very small cycles to these massive cosmic cycles that last
45:25
millions and billions of years. And it's, it's I think we're,
45:28
we're in another changing right now.
45:30
You know, 2016, like you said, was definitely, definitely a
45:33
big. Yeah, you'd have to have to be
45:35
crazy not to see it. Yeah, Yeah.
45:38
I mean, it's obviously the American empire's collapsing.
45:42
It's obviously reality shifting and there's all the signs, all
45:45
the data. So.
45:46
But it's us. It doesn't mean we have to sit
45:48
there like in some sort of apocalypse, dystopian movie.
45:52
We can change our reality. We can transition to, I don't
45:56
know about a better world, but a more suitable world.
46:00
But I always say this is the age of the trickster.
46:02
This is the age of Hermes. We have to embrace that vibe
46:06
like Elvis and David Bowie did. I mean, it's all there.
46:10
Nobody can figure out anything. Have you noticed?
46:12
I mean, Trump came out of nowhere and confused people and
46:16
it still does. The virus came and confused
46:20
people, crypto, AI, you know, nobody thought that Russia was
46:24
going to invade Ukraine. Nobody.
46:26
We, we don't even know what kind of war is going with Iran.
46:29
We've got like Schrodinger straight.
46:31
It's both open and closed at the same time.
46:34
They're just shooting at the sky.
46:36
You know, nobody has figured it out and nobody knows which way
46:40
to go. Even the evil people and the
46:42
establishment seem to be lost and confused and they're trying
46:47
the old false flags and solutions to bribe us and it's
46:51
not working. So this is the age of the
46:53
trickster. But Hermes leads the way.
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The doorways are for Hermes and Krishna and Hecate and on Loki.
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Hermes leads the way and but he might lead you astray.
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He's the door. He's the God of doorways.
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And as a civilization and individuals, we are going
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through a doorway. So embrace that trickster thing.
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UFOs, of course, tied to tricksters and they appear
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during the changing of the age after World War 2 and the rise
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of the Cold War and the American Empire, tons of UFOs were
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appearing. So this is all.
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The signals are there, the omens are there, but we can make a
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difference and we can make it better.
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That's one of the big realizations that you have to
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have it when when you become an adult, you're like, oh, crap,
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You mean nobody knows what's going on, OK.
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Everybody's winking it. That's when the floor kind of
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falls out from underneath you, when you have finally realize
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that, oh, shoot, nobody knows what's going on.
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OK, so we got to figure this out ourselves.
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Nobody's coming to save you. No government, persons,
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religious institution, we, we're here to lean on each other and
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help each other. We are lights on a journey and
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we can share and offer assistance, but nobody's coming
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to save us. We have to go within and we have
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to find the answers and find what each of our roles is in
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this transition or in any age. What's one thought you'd want to
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leave everybody with? Well, most people don't want to
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wake up. Why would they?
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It's the ignorance is bliss. The comfortable lie keeps us
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going. You know, people want safety
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over freedom. Unfortunately, the more freedom
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we have, the less safety we have.
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The more safety we have, the less freedom we have.
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That's one of the paradoxes of life.
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And we humans, we are pack animals.
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We huddle together. If we work together, we're nice
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little sheep, but we tend to survive.
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Not everybody is like that. In every tribe there's a shame
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in in every tribe there's a witch.
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In every civilization, there's one per There are people who
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want to join the mystery schools and so forth.
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There are those who want to take the inner journey or go out of
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their bodies, deep into the stars and make contact with
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higher forms of consciousness. And that's fine.
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People like us, seekers, Mystics, we have a role and we
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have to be careful because in societies those are the people
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who are hated. The machine, the Archons don't
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want these figures to be around, but in a way they are also part
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of a healthy society. So keep doing what you're doing
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if that's your role, if you're not ready to wake up, that's
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your choice too. You say you were into drugs.
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You know the old saying. How do you know you've hit rock
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bottom when you stop digging? And some point I stopped digging
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and I had to sober up and live the life of recovery, the life
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of God. And it's a journey without end.
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There is no end. What did the Hindu say?
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Life is a game that must be played but cannot be won.
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But as Ursula Le Guin said, how you play is what you win.
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So fight the good fight, finish the race, keep the faith.
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It's not going to be easy, and it's going to be it's hard, but
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it really is worth it. It really is worth it.
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Miguel, thank you so much for having this conversation with me
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today, man. I really appreciate it.
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Go pick up your copy of The Occult Elvis.
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I will put links in the description.
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Tell people where else they can find your work, where to go,
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what to do. Thank you.
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Thank you very much. I guess we had to do an Elvis
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impression. It's just the way it is.
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Yeah. I mean, God, I don't even know.
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Does the Internet even work anymore?
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I do have a website. It's called The God Above God.
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I would say type in my name that you see there.
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Miguel Connor, author or Gnostic.
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And then you'll see a list. You'll see my website or YouTube
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or social media or Amazon or Barnes and Noble.
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You, if you go to my website, you'll find links to get the
51:08
book, my podcasts, or if you want to go take a course or
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articles or social, whatever you want to do and how you want to
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approach me. Yeah, just do.
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Miguel Connor, author. Miguel Connor Nost.
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I will put everything in the video description.
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Miguel, thank you so much for coming by.
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Pleasure talking to you. I want you to have a great day,
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OK? You too.
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Thanks for having me on.