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Why Entrepreneur Health Is a Business Decision with Edward Jones · The SmallBizChat with Melinda Emerson

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  Three, 2, 1, 0.
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  Ignition.
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  Lift off.
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  Ending small business failure.
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  Welcome to the Small Biz Chat podcast with the number one small business expert, Melinda
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  Emerson.
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  Melinda's goal is to end small business failure, and she'll give you the information
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  you need to succeed and live the life you dream of.
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  Now here's your host, the small biz chat lady herself, Melinda Emerson.
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  Hi, everybody.
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  Welcome to another edition of the Small Biz Chat podcast, the go to destination for
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  entrepreneurs who want to build profitable businesses that create freedom, wealth, and
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  lasting impact.
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  I'm your host, Melinda Emerson, Small Biz Lady, America's number one small business expert.
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  And our mission here is simple, to end small business failure by giving you strategies,
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  systems, and confidence to succeed as your own boss.
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  Every week, you'll hear inspiring conversations with today's top business experts, successful
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  entrepreneurs and industry leaders who share practical real world advice you can put into
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  action immediately.
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  If you're ready to grow smarter, lead stronger, and build the business you've always
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  envisioned, you are in the right place.
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  Today, we're discussing something every entrepreneur needs, but often neglects, our
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  health.
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  Thank you very much.
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  Now joining me today is Mr.
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  Edward Jones.
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  He is a longevity expert and natural health practitioner as the founder of Nutrition World.
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  He's been running his wellness company for four decades, people.
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  Edward has helped people improve their health through nutrition, movement, supplements, and
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  mindfulness.
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  At 68 years young, Edward does not just teach healthy aging, he's living it.
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  He is a competitive bodybuilder and has built a following of more than 95,000 people on TikTok
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  sharing his strength, energy, and resilience advice for people at every state.
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  Today, we're gonna be talking about why investing in your health may be one of the
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  smartest business decisions you'll ever make.
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  Edward, welcome to the Small Bitch Chat podcast.
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  I'm so excited, Melinda.
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  Thank you for asking me.
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  Listen.
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  When your team sent me over the information about you to be on my show, I was like, yes and
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  yes.
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  You're you're kind of a nontraditional interview but what you're talking about, first
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  of all, you've run a successful business but second of all, what you teach people and what
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  you talk about, I thought was so critically important that I really had to have you on.
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  So thank you so much for being here.
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  Now, talk to me about this.
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  You are 68 years young, still competing in bodybuilding competitions.
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  I mean, most people probably would be shocked to hear that given your health journey.
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  And I was wondering if you could share with us, you know, how you went from, you know, near
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  death experience to now being a model citizen for us all.
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  Wonderful.
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  You mentioned earlier about being successful in business requires a system.
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  Well, also requires a system in place and a plan of action in order to maintain health.
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  We're in an age of what we have normalized as aches and pains and sickness and fatigue and
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  anxiety and lack of sleep.
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  That's pretty normal.
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  So people think it's okay to be that way.
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  Yeah, I'm gonna try to do the right thing.
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  I'm gonna run to the doctor and I'm gonna maybe get a prescription.
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  Those aren't fixing the real issue.
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  The real issue has to be addressed on a deeper level.
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  And that's something I've spent forty seven years doing in my business.
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  And I have done personally of extreme deep dive into my own personal journey of longevity.
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  How at 20 years old, I started thinking how can I set up a plan of action to age gracefully,
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  stay strong, but also what we call peak span?
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  And peak span is a term that I love because it talks about being able to do the things I want
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  at 50, 60, 70, probably 80, don't know, but at least till close to that.
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  That means carry the grandkids, do the...
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  Go get groceries and walk them into the in the house.
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  Maybe go up a flight of steps.
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  I mean, I fly airplanes still.
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  I play violins.
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  I work out six days a week.
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  I do anything I want to do.
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  And that was not possible.
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  I could see the end of the darkness at about late 50s.
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  I could see I'm just aging like everybody else despite my massive effort.
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  I finally fine tuned with some deep dive and realized some of the things I need to change.
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  And of course, the knife and fork is the most powerful weapon that we have Nutritional
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  supplementation is number two, exercise is number three.
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  So those are the three things that I really did deep dive on.
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  All right, now I heard somebody say that we're all out here digging our grave with a knife and
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  fork.
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  Let me come back on that.
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  So peak span.
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  Let's talk a little bit deeper about peak span.
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  So tell me, you coined that phrase, but tell...
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  Get into what that is because you said that's different than lifespan.
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  Right?
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  I don't care about lifespan any longer.
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  I would rather live 70 really good quality years than ninety lesser quality years.
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  And it is not gonna happen with hope alone.
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  It's not gonna happen with Joyce going to get a physical at your doctor.
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  I love the good care that our physicians give us, but that system's broken for preventative
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  measures and anti aging measures.
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  They actually don't believe aging is a disease.
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  They think age is absolutely just gonna, It does happen, but it doesn't have to happen at
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  the early ages that we're doing.
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  And peak span requires again a system and a plan of action.
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  I have written six ebooks on a site called The Holistic Navigator.
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  Those are easy reads with sleep, what supplements to take, what diets to be on.
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  And I think that the majority of people are making grave mistakes with the food choices
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  they make.
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  Wow.
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  Wow.
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  Okay.
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  So let's get into it.
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  You talk about a lot of us are running around constantly exhausted, poor sleep habits,
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  chronic stress.
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  How should people recognize when their lifestyle is aging them faster than necessary?
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  Well, I
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  think the
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  symptoms
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  is
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  a pretty darn good guide.
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  What are those symptoms?
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  What did I start seeing in my 50s that was, I thought was kind of like just part of the part
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  and parcel of getting older, but it was anxiousness at times that I didn't used to have
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  less sense of well-being not as optimistic as I was when I was younger.
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  Certainly aches and pains and then I had less stamina.
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  It would have to work hard to work hard and I didn't use to do that, especially if you're
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  working in a business like we if we love your business or your job, you know very well
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  Melinda.
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  If you know there's a passion that comes with running and being an entrepreneur, most
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  entrepreneurs have a passion or they're probably not going to succeed.
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  And if you do, you should have a lot of Vim and vigor and I lost.
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  I was losing all of that.
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  Really looking in the mirror, listening to myself and knowing it's not normal to feel this
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  way.
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  We are built to be super healthy up to a certain point and our bodies are self healing.
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  I don't care if you break your leg, the doc does great by putting a cast on it, but it's
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  the body that heals it.
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  So connect this to the sleep because a lot of people feel like fixing sleep...
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  You you think that a lot of people fix their sleep in the wrong way.
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  And so what is the difference between fixing your sleep and fixing your sleep patterns?
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  Well, patching doesn't work
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  in pharmaceutical medicine other than making you temporarily feel better.
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  Most drugs patch.
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  That means they make numbers look better or they make you sleep better.
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  Well, guess what?
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  When you sleep with pharmaceuticals, you are unconscious, but you're not getting rim and
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  deep sleep.
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  And the rim and deep is how the brain regenerates itself and the body.
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  And we need to dig deeper than that.
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  Now there's times and places for pharmaceuticals during urgent crisis.
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  I've used them.
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  I'm so glad to have them, but that's not how we fix things.
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  We do it by going into more of why did that happen?
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  Why did my sleep start lessening?
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  Well, maybe it was too many carbohydrates.
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  Maybe it was too much blue light from all your TVs and your screens four hours before going to
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  bed.
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  I mouth tape every night.
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  To me, the number one most effective method to get more rim and deep is to tape your mouth at
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  night with special mouth tape.
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  Now that's sold at nutritionw.com and other places.
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  But I can tell you, I've been doing that twenty five years before they even sold mouth tape
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  called mouth tape because the studies were early on them, but it showed we get better
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  quality sleep, better brain activity.
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  And because when you mouth breathe, guess what happens?
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  You raise the the you alter the carbon dioxide levels and that causes anxiousness.
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  Guess what?
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  When you're anxious, you don't sleep as well and you wake up at two in the morning and you
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  can't go back to sleep.
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  Tape mouthing is miraculous.
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  You ever heard of it?
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  I mean, I've heard of it, but it sounds scary.
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  I gotta be honest because I am a mouth breather and I'm a back sleeper, so you got me afraid
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  that I'll suffocate myself doing that, but okay.
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  But let's talk about sleep though, in terms of what is the optimal amount of sleep that we
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  really need?
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  Because I know I'm one of these three, four hour night people and I wanna understand, am I
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  killing myself by not getting enough sleep?
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  Like help me understand what kind of sleep do I need as an optimal entrepreneur?
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  I can tell you right now how to find that out.
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  Get in your car this weekend and go to Best Buys and buy this Oura Ring.
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  The Oura Ring is 92% as accurate as a sleep study.
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  When you see that you're getting an hour of REM and an hour of deep, don't worry about your
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  sleep.
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  I don't think you're going to see that probably.
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  There are a few people genetically built to only sleep four hours a night.
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  Most need seven and most who are getting seven are getting too little REM and deep.
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  Without REM and deep is useless, it's unconsciousness.
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  So spend the money, go to Best Buys or go to auraring.com, oura, O ura, and spend the money.
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  That's the way you will figure it out.
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  By the time you will let your body fall apart, you've wasted a decade or two.
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  And we have technology today that's the greatest gift to help us maintain our health
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  and AurraRing was one of my gifts.
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  Wow, okay, all right.
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  So I'm interested in that.
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  Now, I know one of the other things you believe is that foods like spinach and nuts may
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  actually be contributing to chronic pain in some people?
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  Oh, is.
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  There's no doubt.
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  I know you probably can't see it on here, I've written all these ebooks, one's on oxalates.
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  It's called oxalates.
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  Oxalates are glass like compounds that are found in spinach, beets, nuts, almonds,
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  raspberries, many other foods.
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  And the thing is they're found more in healthy foods than unhealthy foods.
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  Many times these crystalline compounds called oxalates could deposit themselves in joints and
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  in skin.
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  So you have a lot of chronic issues with joints and skin.
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  I woke up about seven years ago because I work out all the time.
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  I'm used to waking up with pains and thinking of, you know, maybe strain this or did
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  something just made it sore.
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  No, I woke up and that pain didn't go away and for months and then it got worse.
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  Finally finally, and I did everything humanly possible to help the body regenerate.
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  You talking at collagen from peptides to PRPs to injections to you name it, Ed Jones did it.
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  Never did I get anything but worse is because I had oxalates that were contributing to the
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  joint destruction.
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  Finally, had double hip replacement Because by that time I was on a walker for the last six
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  months, I was on a cane the previous year.
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  And the book Toxic Superfoods by Sally Norton, or you can read my free ebook at
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  theholisticnavigator.com describe why these foods are doing it.
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  And it is beyond belief how good I feel now.
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  I never have any pain unless I do something foolish in the gym.
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  So talk to me about, there's all these Americans you know, over 50 already
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  experiencing joint pain, inflammation, loss of mobility, and you're saying that it's what
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  we're eating.
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  50, I, my guesstimation, fifty percent of our aches and pains is linked to probable oxalates
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  from the spinach and the beets and the nuts.
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  And, you know, here's the fix for it.
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  It costs you no money at all.
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  You just quit eating the foods.
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  That's all you do.
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  Nobody's gonna sell you any formulas.
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  Nutritionw.com sells lots of things.
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  There's nothing in there for oxalates.
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  Quit eating the foods in my ebook that I wrote at the holisticnavigator.com and you will know
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  because here's what's gonna happen.
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  You're gonna get really bad for about a month.
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  That bad means those oxalates are moving out of the joints into out of your body.
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  Then you're gonna get far better with a little bit more time.
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  So you have to be willing to go through the suffering.
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  But that's nothing but the oxalate dumping is what we call it.
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  Wow, okay.
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  So now you teach people how to use AI as a free health coach.
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  How can the average person use AI tools to improve their consistency with food, exercise,
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  sleep, their wellness goals?
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  Again, repeat, we live in a magical age and also a very challenging age.
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  There's no doubt everything comes on both sides of that polarity.
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  But AI in the past six months should revolutionize putting together a plan of
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  action.
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  Again, the system you originally talked about, and I did it on a personal level.
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  So I've been in four body, the past four years I've been competing in this particular
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  bodybuilding contest.
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  And I've done pretty well over three years.
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  This year, I've lost eight additional pounds and lost 4% body fat because I used AI instead
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  of my own thinking, of coaching and it's free.
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  I mean, the most you'll pay is $20 a month if you had to do the subscription.
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  So what did I do?
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  First off, after I did it, I wrote an ebook on how anyone can do this.
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  People need accountability and they need to...
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  I need to quit having this questioning mind.
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  Am I doing it right?
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  No, I think I am.
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  No, I think I'm not.
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  Blah blah blah.
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  It makes us go in the ditch.
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  So AI, I take a photo of every food, breakfast, lunch, and supper.
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  I send it to AI.
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  Before that, I would send my goal.
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  I want to be at this body weight by this date.
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  And this is how I eat right now.
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  And this is how I exercise.
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  So every gym visit, I write what I did.
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  Every meal, I take a photo from a 45 degree angle.
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  I talk about it in my in my ebook.
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  And then every morning, I get the new game plan.
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  Okay, Ed.
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  I want you to do this and this and you ate too many carbs this morning.
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  So at lunch, I want you to eat less carbs by eating this and this.
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  And in the gym, you didn't do enough cardio.
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  But it's really nice.
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  They always...
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  AI uses really kind words.
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  And it motivated me to a level I've never been motivated.
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  AI is beautiful to help us put a plan together and help us stick with it.
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  You know, this is really interesting.
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  You're you're really, like, dropping real nuggets here.
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  A lot of this wellness stuff is really, really expensive.
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  I don't know if you've seen the scale you can get that measures your visceral body fat and
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  all this business, and it's like $500 and then you gotta subscription to get the actual
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  information.
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  Is that what we need to be doing?
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  Do I need to get on a scale every day to tell me I'm 43% body fat?
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  I kinda can look at my stomach and know that.
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  I mean, tell me about what are the practical things that we need to invest in?
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  I know you talked about this Oura Ring thing, but are there any other apps or biohacking?
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  Like what are the things that we can do?
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  You just talked about how you can leverage AI.
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  You talked about the toxic food book we can read.
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  Okay, but what else can we do?
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  Because I take a whole handful of supplements every single day, I do.
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  But I feel like I don't know which way to turn, there's every guru in the world on TikTok and
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  Instagram, there's all these AI health tools coming out.
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  I mean, I almost bought that scale to give you the body fat scale, but tell me about what else
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  can we do that's not so expensive to have a bunch of trainers, a bunch of supplements, a
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  bunch of apps, and then I got menopause on it too.
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  So there's lots of stuff going on.
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  Talk to me about what I can do that's reasonable for me that I'm not spending a
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  thousand dollars a month on all this stuff.
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  I don't think you need to spend much money at all other than I do believe that for sleep
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  reasons as we age, the Oura Ring is magical.
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  If you can budget the Oura Ring, all the rest will be spent on food and a minimal amount on
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  supplements.
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  I do feel it's very important to do a basic supplement.
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  I call it the core four, actually wrote an ebook on it again on the same site.
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  And it tells the four most important, if you do nothing else but those core four, you will see
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  differences that are amazing as far as blood work, energy, stamina.
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  It doesn't fix everything, but it's the platform of how the body truly functions.
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  Now empowering yourself with knowledge is truly the number one thing.
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  My ebooks are free.
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  You can do that.
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  But you can also YouTube is amazing on if you find the people you trust and learn from them.
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  But I'm not being critical, but the biohackers, most people have something to sell.
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  And I don't.
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  I have gotten to a point of forty seven years in business.
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  My passion is to educate other people on how to stay healthy, be healthy.
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  And so just using what I call the macro golden rule to eat.
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  What is the macros?
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  That means when we look at protein, fats and carbs, you need to balance those.
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  What does that mean?
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  Almost everybody including you, Melinda probably doesn't eat enough protein.
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  Because when you don't eat enough protein, you lose muscle.
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  Guess what?
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  Muscle is the organ of longevity and it's the organ of stamina.
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  And women are far worse than men about that.
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  But we have to raise our protein.
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  I do it with protein powders.
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  I do it with a brand called Ancient Nutrition.
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  And then I eat healthy fat, avocados, olive oil, no seed oils.
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  Seed oils are fried foods that is destroying the cardiovascular system and cognitive ability
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  of his country.
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  And until seed oils are reduced, which are fried oils, all oils that use for frying is
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  seed oils.
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  You need to use other healthier oils like tallow, coconut oil.
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  You wanna have fried okra?
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  Fine, use tallow and cook it.
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  You just don't use canola and vegetable oils.
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  And then lastly, the carbohydrates have to be minimized about five days a week to about under
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  100 carbs.
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  That's magical.
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  Cost you no money.
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  In fact, you'll probably save money just by raising protein, lowering the carbs, and eating
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  healthy fat instead of unhealthy fat.
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  Right there.
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  Edward, you've just taken all the joy out of eating.
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  I mean, come on.
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  Like, I I...
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  You know, I like dessert.
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  Is dessert evil?
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  You know what I mean?
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  Like, I I eat broccoli.
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  I air fry my chicken.
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  I might make some rice of some sort.
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  But, man, I can't put a...
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  You know, is the rice is evil?
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  Okay.
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  That's a carb.
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  Alright.
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  But, you know, how much brown rice and chicken am I supposed to eat?
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  Ed, come on.
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  You're supposed to eat less rice and more chicken or steak.
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  I believe red meat's healthier than chicken.
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  Fish is also very healthy and protein powders, the right brand are very healthy.
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  Believe it or not, and it's hard to believe this Belinda, but if you ate like I did right
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  now for six months, you would enjoy your meals at least as much as you do now or more because
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  instead of your blood sugar doing this and your mood goes up, your mood goes down, my energy
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  went up, my energy went down.
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  Oops, I don't feel as good as I want to.
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  No, you get stable.
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  So everything feels rock solid like you did when you were younger.
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  And that starts convincing you that this other stuff's not worth doing all this.
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  Now, I said 100 carbs five to six days a week.
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  You get everybody should have one day where they can eat what they want.
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  I think the rest of my life and I do that on Sundays.
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  I will have whatever I want.
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  Now I want less of the bad things, but if I want it, I'm gonna have it.
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  We can't do this seven days a week because life is part of it's the variety and enjoyment of
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  things.
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  But the issue is Melinda, you're addicted to the foods.
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  It's not taste per se, it's an addiction that we all have.
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  And we have to learn to get over the addiction and to age gracefully because we are falling
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  apart as a nation.
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  Gosh, I feel like you're the Scared Straight program.
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  Okay, so talk to me about, for someone who right now, an entrepreneur that's listening to
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  this, they're overworking, they're tired, they're inflamed, they're stressed, they're
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  overweight, they're discouraged about their age.
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  What do you say is the first step they need to take to extend what you call their peak span?
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  What is it?
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  Well, are, we push ourselves a tremendous amount.
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  There's no doubt.
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  You know that you've been doing this for years.
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  You talk to everybody.
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  You're yourself an entrepreneur.
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  We're almost like an Olympic athlete who's training all the time to be in a competition.
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  And we have to get this body fueled up in more than average people for sure.
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  Now we have to address sleep, Quit looking at screens without at least blue blocker glasses
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  on four hours before bedtime.
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  Those cost you $15 on Amazon.
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  And then you have to read my book.
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  Are you sick and tired of being sick and tired at thetheholisticnavigator.com is free.
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  It'll outline every single component of what we just talked about plus plus plus in about 24
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  pages.
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  And Are You Sick and Tired of Being Sick and Tired is the perfect title because we are sick
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  and tired of that.
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  And we look for the wrong answers at the wrong places.
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  So we have to get to the core part of this.
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  And but the one thing you can do tonight with dinner is eat more protein,
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  less
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  carbohydrates and more healthy fat.
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  If you don't have healthy fat, you don't eat fat.
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  I carry olive oil with me into restaurants because restaurants have terrible quality olive
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  oil.
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  It's it's it's contaminated with canola and seed oils.
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  So I have a little bottle and I'll carry it every single day at lunch and every single day
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  at supper.
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  And I just pour it on something.
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  And so I get my healthy fat and I get my protein.
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  I eat the beef, chicken or anything that has protein, good dairy products.
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  And then I'll eat less carbs Monday through Friday and on weekends I'll loosen up.
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  That will change everything without hardly spending any money.
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  Now Edward, my grandmother used to take, hot sauce in restaurants with her because they
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  didn't always have the brand that she had.
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  So you're interested in taking your own olive oil into a restaurant.
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  Alright.
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  Last question.
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  Tell me what is the best business advice you've ever been given?
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  If you're gonna be in business, one is you have to be super hungry because it is going to be a
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  rock slide some days and a beautiful blue sky then maybe a week later.
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  It is forty seven years has toughened me up.
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  There's no doubt, you know that we'll do that or break you down.
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  And secondly, we have to support the physical body because the physical body supports the
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  emotional and mental body.
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  And to do that with skipping meals, worst thing on earth, and all the bad choices will cause a
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  demise in your future success.
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  So taking care of this engine with the best possible and it does take a little more
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  thinking because you have to plan out your foods that morning.
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  Where will I eat or what will I eat or it probably won't happen.
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  But you get so good at it, it takes you two minutes.
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  That's all it does after you get used to it.
• 25:57
  Alright, folks.
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  You heard it here first, mister Edward Jones.
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  He is living proof of what he's talking about because if you're looking at him, you see how
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  Thanks again for listening, and we'll see you next week.