Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / Katie spoke with Mark Cunnington from the NTES about some reminders for driving in Wet Season
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Now, over the last few weeks, you will have noticed
- 0:02Speaker 1: that we've caught up a few times with my next guest.
- 0:04Speaker 1: His name is Mark Cunnington and he is the Northern
- 0:06Speaker 1: Territory Emergency Services Regional Manager of the Northern Division. Good
- 0:11Speaker 1: morning to you.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Mark, morning Katie. Good to be back.
- 0:13Speaker 1: Yeah, good to see you. And obviously we've been catching
- 0:16Speaker 1: up really to make sure that territorians and those visiting
- 0:19Speaker 1: the territory as well or who've maybe just moved here
- 0:22Speaker 1: are quite prepared come wet season and cyclone season. And
- 0:27Speaker 1: one of the things that you know that we've got
- 0:29Speaker 1: to make sure that we are prepared for is that
- 0:30Speaker 1: flash flooding, the slippery roads and some of those quite
- 0:35Speaker 1: wild things that happened I suppose, or happen on the
- 0:37Speaker 1: roads as a result of the wet weather.
- 0:39Speaker 2: Absolutely, and look, we've had a couple of really good
- 0:41Speaker 2: storms in the last week or so, last Friday and
- 0:44Speaker 2: last night even around the Darwen area yep. And yeah,
- 0:48Speaker 2: something I really noticed on Friday in particular was just
- 0:51Speaker 2: how soapy the roads were around, so very slippery.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Yeah, what course is that? Is it because of just.
- 0:57Speaker 2: Oil and stuff coming off cars? Yeah, just a gunknet
- 1:02Speaker 2: that gathers up over the dry season and it takes
- 1:06Speaker 2: a couple of heavy showers to wash it away and
- 1:08Speaker 2: so on, but it makes the roads very slippery. So
- 1:11Speaker 2: checking your vehicle is ready for the wet season, making
- 1:14Speaker 2: sure your tires are good, that they're at the right
- 1:17Speaker 2: inflation level. New wipers on your windscreen. I religiously replaced
- 1:21Speaker 2: mine every year, regardless of how good they might see.
- 1:25Speaker 2: But you know, giving yourself at least a chance to
- 1:28Speaker 2: make your way safely through some of their heavy rain
- 1:30Speaker 2: we have up here is a good start to the season.
- 1:33Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's always a good reminder to make sure
- 1:35Speaker 1: that people do know to do all of those things.
- 1:38Speaker 1: Have there been instances like I know that yesterday, for example,
- 1:41Speaker 1: I was dropping the kids out to Marra to sport
- 1:44Speaker 1: and then got caught up in that heavy downpour. And
- 1:47Speaker 1: you do notice that on the road sometimes you end
- 1:50Speaker 1: up with those quite large patches of water that they
- 1:53Speaker 1: do go away pretty quickly, but it certainly changes the
- 1:55Speaker 1: way that you drive.
- 1:57Speaker 2: They can do that, and look, you've really got to
- 1:58Speaker 2: keep an eye out for that sort of stuff, for
- 2:01Speaker 2: water gathering on the sides of roads, in particularly near
- 2:03Speaker 2: drains that may have a bit of rubbish in them
- 2:07Speaker 2: they haven't been cleared out as yet, and sticking away
- 2:11Speaker 2: from the edge of the roads, reducing your speed so
- 2:15Speaker 2: that if you do happen to hit these spots, you're
- 2:18Speaker 2: less likely to be dragged off and into traffic or
- 2:21Speaker 2: into the side of the road or something like that.
- 2:23Speaker 2: We're just slowing down, taking it easy, putting your lights
- 2:26Speaker 2: on so people see you. It's phenomenal the amount of
- 2:29Speaker 2: people that just don't put their lights on in heavy rains.
- 2:31Speaker 1: I was going to say, it sounds like real common
- 2:33Speaker 1: sense stuff, and it's something I've spoken to the police about. Yeah,
- 2:36Speaker 1: that's right. It doesn't happen as often as you think,
- 2:38Speaker 1: and it is something that we just need to be
- 2:40Speaker 1: mindful of to make sure that the vehicles around you
- 2:42Speaker 1: can actually see you. Now, with some of that flash
- 2:45Speaker 1: flooding you know, obviously was talking about on the roads there,
- 2:48Speaker 1: but then you go a little bit further into the
- 2:51Speaker 1: rest of the territory environment and look at some of
- 2:54Speaker 1: those flooded waterways. It's something that we do see quite
- 2:57Speaker 1: a bit over the wet season. Throughout the tear have
- 3:00Speaker 1: there been situations where emergency services and indeed even our
- 3:05Speaker 1: fieries and police, I would guess, have had to go
- 3:08Speaker 1: out and rescue people from those floods.
- 3:10Speaker 2: Invariably every season we will in the territory conduct you
- 3:15Speaker 2: probably two or three rescues because people have made a
- 3:19Speaker 2: poor choice, and that poor choice is driving into a
- 3:22Speaker 2: flooded road. You've risked so much by doing that. Fifteen
- 3:28Speaker 2: centimeters of a light moving water will lift a car up.
- 3:32Speaker 2: A fall will drive not just a little Hoyundi type range,
- 3:36Speaker 2: but a fall drive can be lifted and moved by
- 3:38Speaker 2: fifteen centimeters in depth of water. So you're taking your life,
- 3:43Speaker 2: the lives of your friends, family, or otherwise into your
- 3:46Speaker 2: own hands. If you think you're going to get across
- 3:49Speaker 2: a creek crossing or something of floodway safely, just don't
- 3:53Speaker 2: risk it. Most of the water we have up here
- 3:55Speaker 2: drains away very quickly once the rain's go on, So
- 3:58Speaker 2: wait half an hour or so, have your hazard lights
- 4:01Speaker 2: on while you're waiting, and just wait before proceeding past
- 4:05Speaker 2: the point like that.
- 4:05Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say, what is the advice
- 4:07Speaker 1: like if you are at a at a creek crossing
- 4:10Speaker 1: and you think, oh, I'm not one hundred percent sure
- 4:12Speaker 1: just how high that water is. You know, what is
- 4:15Speaker 1: the advice? Is it better to just be safe than
- 4:17Speaker 1: sorry and not cross?
- 4:18Speaker 2: Absolutely? Look, really, just take a breath, take a moment.
- 4:23Speaker 2: If you have to turn around and find an alternate route.
- 4:26Speaker 2: You may find that that crek crossing might be going
- 4:29Speaker 2: out for a little while yet, but in particular around
- 4:32Speaker 2: the day oen air, the water drains off very quickly,
- 4:34Speaker 2: so you're not going to be there for very long,
- 4:36Speaker 2: if at all, so be a little patient. Wait, I mean,
- 4:38Speaker 2: you could affect everything from car insurance to losing your life.
- 4:42Speaker 2: It's just not worth it.
- 4:43Speaker 1: And there has been not so long ago actually in
- 4:46Speaker 1: Alice Springs there, what's that situation where our police, I believe,
- 4:49Speaker 1: our fires and our emergency crews we all had to
- 4:52Speaker 1: hit out there. Yeah, all the volleys had to go
- 4:54Speaker 1: out and rescue that man in Alice Springs who was in.
- 4:56Speaker 2: The flooded hYP So that was a nine hour rescue
- 5:00Speaker 2: just because somebody made a poor choice to drive into
- 5:04Speaker 2: a crossing that was obviously flooded blatantly. So and I
- 5:09Speaker 2: understand possibly even when around people who are putting up
- 5:12Speaker 2: signs blocking the road off. So it puts our people
- 5:16Speaker 2: at risk. It's not an easy job to do. It
- 5:19Speaker 2: takes a lot of planning, experience, training and equipment to
- 5:24Speaker 2: safely rescue somebody from one of these situations. And just
- 5:29Speaker 2: don't put yourself there in the first place, and take
- 5:32Speaker 2: a breath, wait five or ten, whatever it takes, and
- 5:36Speaker 2: you just don't go into flooded.
- 5:37Speaker 1: Roadways, drive to your capabilities, and don't drive across across
- 5:42Speaker 1: those areas that do have plenty of water.
- 5:44Speaker 2: Absolutely, so cars don't go particularly well underwater, and water
- 5:50Speaker 2: moves so fast, so powerful. This it's phenomenal the amount
- 5:53Speaker 2: of force you have there. And it's just so easy
- 5:55Speaker 2: to get yourself in trouble.
- 5:56Speaker 1: Well. And look, I know that a lot of people
- 5:58Speaker 1: listening this morning who've maybe lived in the Northern Territory
- 6:01Speaker 1: for a long time. It's common sense in a lot
- 6:04Speaker 1: of ways. But then to a lot of other people,
- 6:06Speaker 1: whether you're talking about younger people who maybe haven't had
- 6:08Speaker 1: their license for a long time, or those who have
- 6:11Speaker 1: moved here from interstate, all those that maybe don't sort
- 6:14Speaker 1: of get out of the urban centers very much, it
- 6:17Speaker 1: is actually info that.
- 6:18Speaker 2: You've got to know absolutely, and you know, just look
- 6:21Speaker 2: around the country. Now we have situations in both Queensland
- 6:24Speaker 2: and New South Wales where there's heavy weather, there's flooding.
- 6:27Speaker 2: You know, they've had somewhere in the region of one
- 6:29Speaker 2: hundred and fifty rescues and it's of people who have
- 6:33Speaker 2: decided to drive into flooded conditions. We've had fifty odd
- 6:38Speaker 2: deaths here in the territory, almost all of which have
- 6:43Speaker 2: been because people have decided to drive into flood water.
- 6:47Speaker 2: It's what more can you say? That may seem like
- 6:50Speaker 2: it's a common sense type thing, and you know, there
- 6:53Speaker 2: are all sorts of studies around the country on this
- 6:55Speaker 2: sort of stuff as to why people do things, but
- 6:58Speaker 2: just take a breath, set back for a moment. Don't
- 7:01Speaker 2: drive into floodwaters. Yeah, I can't say it enough. Don't
- 7:04Speaker 2: drive into floodwaters, turn around, don't drown. Yeah.
- 7:07Speaker 1: Good advice, Very good and sound advice. Mark Cunnington, I
- 7:11Speaker 1: really appreciate your time and your time over the last
- 7:13Speaker 1: few weeks. Love to say that we might not see
- 7:16Speaker 1: each other for a while, but no doubt as the
- 7:19Speaker 1: we may well, but also as the I'm no doubt
- 7:22Speaker 1: that as the wet season really cranks up as well,
- 7:25Speaker 1: and as things get busier as well for emergency services,
- 7:28Speaker 1: we're probably going to hear from you more often than
- 7:31Speaker 1: we have for the last few months.
- 7:33Speaker 2: Absolutely, and look, I'm certainly glad to help and giving
- 7:37Speaker 2: me a good advice that we can to keep people safe.
- 7:40Speaker 1: Absolutely well, Mark, always good to catch up with you.
- 7:43Speaker 1: We will catch up with you again once more before Christmas.
- 7:45Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time today.
- 7:46Speaker 2: Thanks Cattie,