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Speaker 1: It's the good report.
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Speaker 2: Tonight bribes, bribes, bribes, The election turns into a massive
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Speaker 2: spendethon as Labor buys a lead in the latest news poll.
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Speaker 2: Plus the ABC spears Pauling Hanson another outrageous breach of
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Speaker 2: its charter. But also tonight another split in the Trump
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Speaker 2: team as Donald Trump defends Russia's Palm Sunday massacre of
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Speaker 2: thirty four Ukrainian civilians, calling it just the mistake, and
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Speaker 2: a British man is worn by police a saying speak
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Speaker 2: English is a hate crime, and the Teals caught out
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Speaker 2: as hypocrites over dodgy ads. I thank you.
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Speaker 3: I'd have to give to some thought.
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Speaker 2: But first before we I've got to get to the
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Speaker 2: rest of the campaign. Something extraordinary. How naive are we?
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you something amazing. We actually let non citizens
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Speaker 2: vote in elections here to choose our run who runs
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Speaker 2: out some of our capital cities at Melbourne and Hobart
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Speaker 2: and Adelaide. Even students from communist China can come and
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Speaker 2: vote in those elections, and in some other council elections.
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Speaker 2: Even more extraordinaries. The courters now said it was more
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Speaker 2: likely than not the Chinese students had actually managed to
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Speaker 2: elect another former Chinese student to the Adelaide Council, this
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Speaker 2: guy Lingji. Can you imagine China ever letting an Australian
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Speaker 2: stand in an election for one of its cities and
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Speaker 2: for other Australians to vote them in. We have we
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Speaker 2: left ourselves wide open to interference, foreign interference. Now the
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Speaker 2: Shingle is labor length. He would in fact still be
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Speaker 2: an Adelaide councilor if a court had now ruled that in.
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Speaker 2: This team actually used dishonest ways to get some of
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Speaker 2: those Chinese student votes. Two of his team were secretly
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Speaker 2: photographed in the twenty twenty two council election collecting voting
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Speaker 2: papers from buildings with lots of Chinese students, either to
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Speaker 2: check that they had voted for Lee or to get
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Speaker 2: their voting papers filled in. And the judge ruled that
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Speaker 2: this was illegal, canceled the results of the election for
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Speaker 2: that ward, and toss Lely off the council three years late.
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Speaker 2: Mind you, there were even claims by one witness himself
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Speaker 2: of Chinese background that Lee asked the Chinese consulate in
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Speaker 2: Adelaide for help in getting him elected. Now this surging me,
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Speaker 2: he sure gets about of it. He is vice president
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Speaker 2: of the South Australian Chapter of the Australian China Business Council.
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Speaker 2: He was director of the South Australian Government's China Engagement Strategy,
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Speaker 2: has worked for the Federal government's OS Trade and he
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Speaker 2: got a prime seat at a dinner thrown by the
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Speaker 2: Chinese Consulate. He's the guy in the red tie. Now,
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Speaker 2: the election fraud is obviously one thing, but the other
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Speaker 2: is that South Australia actually does let foreigners, even the
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Speaker 2: international students, vote in council elections if they've lived at
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Speaker 2: their address for just a month. Now, after all, this
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Speaker 2: Liberal MP Frank Pangalos trying to get State Parliament to
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Speaker 2: change that. But Adelaide is not even alone in this.
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Speaker 2: In Victoria, you can vote for the Melbourne City Council
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Speaker 2: if you're not an Australian citizen, provided you rent or
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Speaker 2: own property in the area. Now, this sure would not
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Speaker 2: have hurt John So became a popular Lord Mayor. I
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Speaker 2: should stress no one is suggesting that John So did
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Speaker 2: anything wrong As Mayor. John So did try to stop
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Speaker 2: fellow councilors meeting the Dalai Lama, the Tibetan leader that
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Speaker 2: China consists an enemy and also try to ban the
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Speaker 2: fellow Gong also fierce critics to communists, China banned them
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Speaker 2: from the Moonber Parade for being too political, and this
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Speaker 2: Tasmania once again foreigners can vote in council elections, and
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Speaker 2: not just in the Hobart Council elections. This, of course
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Speaker 2: has raised the arms. In the twenty fourteen Hobart election,
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Speaker 2: more than three hundred names who added to the role
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Speaker 2: of foreign voters are just three days. Most were international
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Speaker 2: students from around Sandy Bay, and a Green's Lord mayor
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Speaker 2: of candidate said he was pretty sure some candidates were
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Speaker 2: using foreign students to stack that vote. Four years later,
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Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, the then Tasmanian Greens leader claimed the Chinese
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Speaker 2: Communist Party was trying to influence that council race, with
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Speaker 2: one Chinese Australian candidate holding a leadership position with the
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Speaker 2: Australian Council for the Promotion of Peaceful Reunification of China,
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Speaker 2: which I've explained before is widely regarded as an arm
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Speaker 2: of Chinese Communist Party to get foreign influence. Now that
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Speaker 2: candidate denied having any tasks of the Commist Party being
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Speaker 2: influenced in any way with the Greens leader who called
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Speaker 2: out this obvious danger of potential election interference by foreign players,
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Speaker 2: maybe with other candidates. Who knows she was called a
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Speaker 2: racist and by other Greens, and that cheap SMEA is
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Speaker 2: exactly by so few politicians there to say that, and
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Speaker 2: the power now of the Chinese stream vote. Well, at
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Speaker 2: least Tasmani State Liberal government has just circulated a discussion
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Speaker 2: paper asking if non citizens should really be allowed to
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Speaker 2: vote for who runs our cities and towns either, it's
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Speaker 2: pretty obvious, but they're not pushing that argument very hard. Again,
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Speaker 2: they can't afford to offend the Chinese vote. It just
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Speaker 2: asks should non citizens enjoy a continuing entitlement to vote
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Speaker 2: at local government elections? Although if this entitlement were to continue,
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Speaker 2: it is proposed a person's ordinary place of residence must
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Speaker 2: have been in Tasmani for the twelve months prior, whether
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Speaker 2: mose must own property in Tasmania. So they don't want
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Speaker 2: just to be blowns have been here for just a month.
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Speaker 2: But surely Australians must be the only people to decide
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Speaker 2: how Australian cities are run, and that shall be even
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Speaker 2: more so when we take so many foreign students, particularly
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Speaker 2: from China, which is an aggressive communist dictatorship hostile to Australia,
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Speaker 2: and it's a dictatorship known to threaten Chinese here, including
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Speaker 2: Chinese students, to do what it says or their relatives
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Speaker 2: back in China will suffer. I think it's time Australians
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Speaker 2: stopped being so naive now to this election. Are the
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Speaker 2: money being spent plus the creeping socialism Both parties yesterday
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Speaker 2: and their campaign launchers made ten billion dollar promises extra promises,
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Speaker 2: mostly for housing. The Liberals also promised the twelve hundred
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Speaker 2: dollar tax rebate for one year. I'll go through those
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Speaker 2: housing promises later. Then today the Prime Minister went to
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Speaker 2: Tasmania to say that he was going to save a
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Speaker 2: paper mill, although it turns out he was just saving
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Speaker 2: it from his own global warming madness.
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Speaker 4: My government today is announcing up to twenty four million
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Speaker 4: dollars to help buyer prepare for a lower missions future
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Speaker 4: and to secure the future of the mill. Nine million
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Speaker 4: dollars of that over the next two years will be
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Speaker 4: to ensure its financial viability as this transition occurs.
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Speaker 2: So it's that our future now luck with the way
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Speaker 2: Alla Steel Works hand out a few weeks ago, the
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Speaker 2: government going from struggling business the struggling business, although only
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Speaker 2: ones with lots of union members at that particular press
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Speaker 2: who he had a union representative speak and it's saying
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Speaker 2: to these very few lucky labor connected companies here, have
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Speaker 2: a taxpayer handout to help you go green. Now, of
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Speaker 2: course handouts this big, I mean, twenty two million dollars
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Speaker 2: shows how much it does cost businesses to go green,
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Speaker 2: except only a lucky f you get their mates in
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Speaker 2: a labor government to bail them out. And this really
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Speaker 2: is crony capitalism or green socialism. But what a change,
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Speaker 2: I guess, so welcome change in a way from past
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Speaker 2: labor governments actually destroying Australia's paper mills by slopping them
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Speaker 2: from using our forests. And I've got to admit that
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Speaker 2: handouts like this to a handout happy electorate sure helping
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Speaker 2: this government win this election. The latest News poll shows
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Speaker 2: Labor with a handy lead after preferences fifty two percent
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Speaker 2: of the college is forty eight. Now one of the
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Speaker 2: Prime ministers, looking so confident, like a winner with your
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Speaker 2: money joining me is the panel Michael Kroger, former Victorian
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Speaker 2: Liberal President, Steve Conroy, former Labor Senate and Cabinet and
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Speaker 2: it's the Michael Kroger. It is extraordinary, isn't it. The
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Speaker 2: government handing money to a paper mill, and then earlier
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Speaker 2: to a solar panel maker, and to a Wyala steel mill,
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Speaker 2: and half a billion dollars to a quantum computing startup,
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Speaker 2: most of them risky bets like the green hydrogen schemes.
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Speaker 2: What is going on here?
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Speaker 5: Had a billion dollars for solar panels against the Chinese
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Speaker 5: andrew But this just follows on that great gift that
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Speaker 5: Bob Hawk gave in the late eighties. Remember I gave
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Speaker 5: sixty million to try and save the Kodak camera business
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Speaker 5: in Melbourne. The truth of the matter is this, if
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Speaker 5: you're in the right place, in the right electorate at
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Speaker 5: the right time, there's no amount of money that can't
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Speaker 5: be stuffed down your shirt for electoral advantage. So this
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Speaker 5: is just this is this is just random. It's not
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Speaker 5: based on any philosophy. It's government picking winners at election
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Speaker 5: time in marginal seats. It has no it had. You know,
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Speaker 5: if you're in the right place, you get the money.
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Speaker 5: If you don't get the Prime Minister's there. You don't.
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Speaker 5: It's politics and it's absolute worse.
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Speaker 2: Andrew, Well, you've forgot one bit. They also have to
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Speaker 2: have lots of union members. Steven, how can you be
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Speaker 2: in capitalism? Well, I think I didn't realize.
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Speaker 6: Michael virgin count he's just discovered how politics works. I
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Speaker 6: remember a very funny story of John Howard saying to
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Speaker 6: Pedixtellar in nineteen ninety six, you know, I need you
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Speaker 6: to provide me some options going into this election budget
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Speaker 6: and Costello who provided four billion and he puts four
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Speaker 6: billion dollars worth of you know, different things on the
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Speaker 6: table and says, you know, okay, and how it took
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Speaker 6: the whole four billion, whereas Costello thought he's only going
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Speaker 6: to take four hundred million, and then he presented his
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Speaker 6: stuff the four billion dollars down people shirts in their pants.
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Speaker 6: So I don't think anyone can credible say that politics
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Speaker 6: has ever operated during election campaign any other way.
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Speaker 2: Entirely. So your defense is if I got your defense,
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Speaker 2: let me see. If I got your defense, then.
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Speaker 6: I just pointing out the hypocrisy.
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Speaker 2: You can't defend this. All you can say is that
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Speaker 2: the liberals have done the same thing, and to that
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Speaker 2: I would say, you're right, except at least with one
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Speaker 2: different one virtue. The Liberals didn't do it with borrowed
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Speaker 2: money because this government's got ten years of deficits ahead.
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Speaker 2: But look, no one can defend it. This is an
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Speaker 2: absolute rought where you get struggling companies, not even healthy ones,
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Speaker 2: and they get slung some dollars a union members and
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Speaker 2: be they're promoting a green cause. I think it's just
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Speaker 2: it stinks, and it's surprising that almost nobody that I've
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Speaker 2: seen yet has called this out. Michael. I'm looking at too,
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Speaker 2: at the news poll, and in fact there's another pole too.
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Speaker 2: I think the non newspapers can't remember Labor ahead ahead
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Speaker 2: on preference even though a third of voters, only a
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Speaker 2: third of voters like enough to give you their primary votes.
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Speaker 2: Two thirds of voters are against both both sides. Why
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Speaker 2: is Labor ahead?
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Speaker 5: So I think it's fair to say the last month
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Speaker 5: the Liberal vote has slid and Labour's votes remained fairly solid.
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Speaker 2: Well, they're a.
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Speaker 5: First term government. And whilst most people have already said
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Speaker 5: during the pin pole polling over the last eighty months
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Speaker 5: that Alba is not very good. The government's pretty poor.
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Speaker 5: The basic view is give him another go. That's what
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Speaker 5: Australians have done, you know, for almost one hundred years.
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Speaker 5: They think it's fair to give someone a second go.
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Speaker 5: But there's a couple of bright spots here. The electorate
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Speaker 5: has turned to the right. So a couple of votes
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Speaker 5: on the couple of percent on the left have gone
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Speaker 5: to Labor, but a couple of theirs have gone to
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Speaker 5: the Liberals, but a couple of hours have gone to
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Speaker 5: the right. And so it might well be that Labour's
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Speaker 5: vot is strengthening in its safe labor seats. And the
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Speaker 5: second thing I'd say is this that you know, the
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Speaker 5: great advantage they have is if you've got twelve percent
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Speaker 5: of the Greens, Labor get ten of that, We get two,
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Speaker 5: So the Laby get a net eight percent out of that.
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Speaker 5: But on the right, which is now also about twelve percent,
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Speaker 5: the same as the Greens. If you had one nation
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Speaker 5: trumpet of the Patriots and Libertarian they're also about twelve
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Speaker 5: but we only get seven of that, So our net
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Speaker 5: out of that is two if you're follow my mass,
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Speaker 5: so Labor get a six percent bump out of preferences
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Speaker 5: from those side parties. Now, what does all that mean.
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Speaker 5: It basically means that if there's a much tighter preference
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Speaker 5: distribution on the right, if these three parties hand out
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Speaker 5: out of eight cards and tell levoders to put Peter
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Speaker 5: Dutton second, it'll certainly increase his chances of winning, because
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Speaker 5: at the minute their preferences spray and we only get
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Speaker 5: sixty percent of them, Laby get eighty percent of the Greens.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got the maths, but I'm not sure I've
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Speaker 2: got the explanation why it's gone bad. I'm going to
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Speaker 2: try one on you, Stephen. One is that Donald Trump,
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Speaker 2: for instance, has shown that the world is suddenly chaotic threatening.
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Speaker 2: It's not just China threatening. There's also the trade and
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Speaker 2: all this, and Alban easy for all that I don't
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Speaker 2: like his economic policies. Is not a threatening man. He's
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Speaker 2: easy to get along with. Guy, I've had private data
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Speaker 2: dealings with him. Is easy to get along with and
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Speaker 2: is a reassuring presence. And I don't think people want
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Speaker 2: to take a risk anymore with everything up in the air,
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Speaker 2: and so this thing with him.
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Speaker 6: Look, look, there's no question Trump has gate crashed Australian
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Speaker 6: election in a way that no one could have foreseen
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Speaker 6: even two months ago. And if you look at when
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Speaker 6: the Liberals vote started to slowly decrease, it was just
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Speaker 6: as the Trump agenda started to come to the forefront
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Speaker 6: and then it's just gate crashed. So I think absolutely
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Speaker 6: that the Trump effects has meant people going who's going
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Speaker 6: to manage this the best? And I think you're dead right.
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Speaker 6: Albo has been a reassuring presence that the people feel
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Speaker 6: more comfortable with than they feel with Dutton, who they
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Speaker 6: probably think deep down really sort of likes the Trump agenda.
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Speaker 6: I mean you'll say he doesn't, but he said a
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Speaker 6: lot of nice things about Trump over the lastelve months.
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Speaker 6: So I think people have made their mind up that
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Speaker 6: Dutton is just not as going to be reliable as
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Speaker 6: Albow when it comes to standing up for Australia's national
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Speaker 6: interest against Trump. Not being critical Peter on national security.
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Speaker 6: I think they said has got a long track record in.
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Speaker 2: It well or right, all right, if you had to
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Speaker 2: say that. I don't believe that Trump line at all,
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Speaker 2: But I do believe that Labor's pinned on him, as
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Speaker 2: you've just done again tonight the Teal MP's Michael They
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Speaker 2: campaign on being more transparent. There's one of their big
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Speaker 2: calling cards. But Legros Spender, the teal imp didn't discover
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Speaker 2: in this ad that she'd actually paid a company to
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Speaker 2: get this influence, so to say how great she was
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Speaker 2: when the influencer shadowed Spender for a day. Listens to
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Speaker 2: this Sugar.
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Speaker 1: Meets a Legras Spender. Not a career politician. She's a
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Speaker 1: wicked smart economist, mother, a daily five k queen, and
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Speaker 1: works in line with the values of her constituents, who
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Speaker 1: are real working people. She ran as an Indian twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty two. Not for her. She had a perfectly lovely life.
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Speaker 1: People just kept begging her to do.
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Speaker 2: It yet another deal. MP Monique Ryan couldn't even admit
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Speaker 2: yesterday that politicians should disclose cash for comment. Here she is.
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Speaker 3: I don't want to have an opinion on it, really,
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Speaker 3: I think, well.
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Speaker 2: You don't think I are.
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Speaker 7: You don't think voters deserve to know that if someone
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Speaker 7: they're watching is saying great things about a politician, whether
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Speaker 7: they're being paid by that politician, I'll go I have.
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Speaker 1: To go to some thought.
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Speaker 2: It's not something I've given great thought to myself on.
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Speaker 2: You'd have to give that some thought.
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Speaker 3: Well, uh, yeah, I would think that it would be clear.
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Speaker 5: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I think I'd have to give it some thought. Michael,
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Speaker 2: what the hell? Plus, of course, what the hell about
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Speaker 2: this Hammy performance?
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Speaker 5: I think that's one of the worst interviews I've ever
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Speaker 5: seen in my life. I mean, that was appalling and
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Speaker 5: what it says to people. You know, if people in
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Speaker 5: Kuyong look at that, they think that's the kind of
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Speaker 5: wooly headed, you know, pie in the style headed.
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Speaker 2: It was that no, no, no was dishonest in my.
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Speaker 5: View, Okay, we'll say it's dishonest that that was an
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Speaker 5: appalling performance. There's nothing to think about a legal spender.
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Speaker 5: That's just I'm sorry, that's just dishonest. If you're paying
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Speaker 5: people to present, you know, independent validations of you, but
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Speaker 5: you're paying them that's not disclosed. That's groteche that's politically grotesque.
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Speaker 5: And what you've got is Monic Ryan saying I don't
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Speaker 5: know about that. I mean, this is just appalling. They've
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Speaker 5: been Monic Ryan's been running a dirty campaign against Emilia Hamer.
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Speaker 5: We know what her husband did. We're still waiting from
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Speaker 5: his Affidavid by the way, Andrew his Affidavid, which which
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Speaker 5: we've asked him to just confirm that he took down
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Speaker 5: one sign, and then she gets on television. That wasn't
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Speaker 5: that wasn't the worst part. The worst part was she
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Speaker 5: said she was talking about housing policy and David Spears
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Speaker 5: said to what policies do we need? And she said,
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Speaker 5: we need visionary policies on housing and he said, what
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Speaker 5: kind of visionary policies and she said, policies with vision. David,
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Speaker 5: she didn't have it nodding acquaintness what she was talking about.
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Speaker 5: She said, we just need vision, you know, like George
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Speaker 5: was the vision thing. And I'm thinking that on some
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Speaker 5: young people are voting for for goodness sake.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely a lot of Ericans in that. And I
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Speaker 2: hated the way she pretended to think when she clearly
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Speaker 2: didn't want to give him the time. Michael krog CONROI
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Speaker 2: thank you very much to you both. Before all we
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Speaker 2: move on, I've got to call out the ABC. You know,
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Speaker 2: it's been under its own charter to be impartial because
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Speaker 2: it's the taxpayer funded, but look how it introduced One
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Speaker 2: Nation leader Pauling Hanson when it interviewed her last week.
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Speaker 8: Pauline Hanson has been one of the most divisive but
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Speaker 8: also one of the most resilient politicians of recent decades.
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Speaker 2: She has shocked and appalled. Hanson shocked and appalled. Who
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Speaker 2: exactly didn't shock and appall me? Does Ferguson mean that
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Speaker 2: Hanson shocked an ABC audience That wouldn't be hard to
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Speaker 2: do given the general politics there. The News saw is
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Speaker 2: just as bad, calling Hanson controversial infamous, saying she was
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Speaker 2: sewing division. Does the ABC ever describe Green's leader and
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Speaker 2: a band like that, because he at least deserves it.
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Speaker 2: He shocks and appalls me. Back to the master spending
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Speaker 2: this campaign by both sides, it seems no one cares
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Speaker 2: about debt anymore. Yesterday, in their dueling campaign launchers, both
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Speaker 2: sides promised ten billion dollars to get young strands into
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Speaker 2: their first home. Young straands like pe Son Harry, a
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Speaker 2: carpenter who was on the campaign trail with his dad.
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Speaker 9: Today, I am saving up for a house, and so
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Speaker 9: is my sister back and a lot of my mates.
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Speaker 9: But as you've probably heard, it's almost impossible to get
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Speaker 9: in in the current states. So I mean, we're saving luck, Mard,
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Speaker 9: but it doesn't look like we'll get there in the
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Speaker 9: near future, but we'd love that to change.
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Speaker 2: Joining me is Leith and Nonslan, co founder of macro Business,
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Speaker 2: a fantastic blog that they run, and a former Federal
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Speaker 2: Treasury official. Leith, first of all, can you tell us
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Speaker 2: why we do have a housing crisis in the first place? Oh?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, pretty simple, Andrews. Train's got a housing crissis because
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Speaker 7: it's home prices are among the most expensive in the
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Speaker 7: world relative to income. We have some of the most
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Speaker 7: indebted households in the world, intendants of spending a record
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Speaker 7: share of their incomes on rents. And one of the
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Speaker 7: reasons why why a housing market has become so unaffordable
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Speaker 7: rents are so expensive is that we've grown a population
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Speaker 7: excessively via immigration over the last twenty years and demands.
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Speaker 2: Far exceeded supply.
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Speaker 7: So Australia as population has grown by about eight point
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Speaker 7: five million people this century, most of whom are gone
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Speaker 7: to the major cities. This is the fastest percentage increase
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Speaker 7: in the advanced world. And basically what it means is
21:15
Speaker 7: we've housing demands grown so much faster than supply and unfortunately, sadly,
21:20
Speaker 7: both the policies put forward by both major parties of
21:23
Speaker 7: the weekend are going to make the situation much worse.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's look at them. By the way, that
21:29
Speaker 2: immigration is not just a demand for more houses than
21:31
Speaker 2: we build because they're all crowded into the main cities.
21:33
Speaker 2: The land price is the scarcity of land makes the
21:36
Speaker 2: land itself also more expensive to double whereming First, the
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Speaker 2: Labour's plan. He's the Prime Minister today.
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Speaker 4: I announced it. Under a Labor government, you'll be able to.
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Speaker 8: Buy your first time with just a five percent deposit.
21:54
Speaker 8: Our five percent deposit plan will be open to every
21:57
Speaker 8: Australian looking to buy their first home. It will be
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Speaker 8: available for homes valued all the way up to the
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Speaker 8: average price in every city and region. And you won't
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Speaker 8: have to pay a.
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Speaker 4: Single dollar in mortgage insurance.
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Speaker 2: Billion dollars to build one hundred thousand houses just for
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Speaker 2: first home buyers. I worked out link. That's only one
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Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars per house. Good luck with that. Can
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Speaker 2: the government build that many for that little that fast?
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Speaker 2: And should it even try? Yeah?
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Speaker 7: No, it's not well, I mean, let's take one of
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Speaker 7: them at time. The five percent deposit thing is a
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Speaker 7: state sponsored subprime mortgage scheme. Let's be honest, and all
22:34
Speaker 7: it's going to do is it's going to pull more
22:37
Speaker 7: buyers into the market, which is going to boost demand
22:39
Speaker 7: and drive our home prices. It's going to make housing
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Speaker 7: structurally less affordable because we're going to have more people
22:45
Speaker 7: chasing a given number of homes and that's just going
22:46
Speaker 7: to lead to higher Australians carrying higher mortgages and higher prices,
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Speaker 7: which is actually self defeating from an afordability perspective. But
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Speaker 7: on the ten billion dollars for one hundred thousand homes,
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Speaker 7: Labor's policy is incredibly light on details. So it's supposedly
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Speaker 7: going to spend ten billion dollars to partner with developers
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Speaker 7: and the industry to build one hundred thousand homes. Now,
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Speaker 7: I think that's going to end up being a direct
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Speaker 7: subsidy to developers and that's just going to end up.
23:11
Speaker 7: You know, this is why developers love this policy. They're
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Speaker 7: definitely going to increase their prices and fatten their profits.
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Speaker 7: But let's be honest to here, Andrew, A hundred thousand
23:19
Speaker 7: is not going to buy much. The average cost of
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Speaker 7: building a house in Australia, let alone the land, is
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Speaker 7: five hundred and thirty seven thousand dollars. Then you've got
23:26
Speaker 7: to add hundreds of thousands of dollars for the land.
23:28
Speaker 7: On top of that, apartments cost even more to build
23:31
Speaker 7: than houses. They're a little bit cheaper on land. But
23:33
Speaker 7: either way, one hundred thousand is not going to cover
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Speaker 7: much here.
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Speaker 2: Andrew Yes and the rest of us have got to
23:40
Speaker 2: pay for it. And then those that are at first
23:42
Speaker 2: home buyers don't want to buy those particular houses. They
23:45
Speaker 2: have to face higher prices for everything else because of
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Speaker 2: the market is being build up. It's just extraordinary next
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Speaker 2: to the Liberals plan. It's still let first home buyers
23:53
Speaker 2: claim their mortgage interest repayments against their tax if they
23:57
Speaker 2: are building a new build home. To me, seems a
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Speaker 2: little unfair on everyone else. But what do you make
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Speaker 2: of that one?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, so the Coalition's housing policy is equally stupid, but
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Speaker 7: in a different way. So the Coalition's policy i'd use
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Speaker 7: better than labor Labour's in one respect, it's only going
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Speaker 7: to apply to new home so it should be it
24:14
Speaker 7: should at least boost supply a little bit, whereas Labour's
24:17
Speaker 7: five to five percent to positive scheme is mostly going
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Speaker 7: to flow to established homes. And just push up House process.
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Speaker 7: But the Coalition's policy is also worse from a budgetary perspective. So,
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Speaker 7: as you said earlier, the federal budget is projected to
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Speaker 7: being deficit for the next decade, and by making mortgage
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Speaker 7: payments tax deductible, the Coalition's policy is going to effectually
24:35
Speaker 7: strip tax revenue out of the budget, which means that
24:38
Speaker 7: Australia is facing a bigger budget deficit.
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Speaker 2: It's also regressive.
24:41
Speaker 7: And inequable because the more you earn, the biggerer tax break,
24:45
Speaker 7: so it's going to hand bigger tax breaks out to
24:47
Speaker 7: higher income earners. And the Coalition actually estimated that if
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Speaker 7: you're a buyer earning one hundred and twenty thousand dollars
24:53
Speaker 7: a year with the six hundred and fifty thousand dollars mortgage,
24:55
Speaker 7: you're going to save around twelve thousand dollars a year.
24:57
Speaker 7: Now that's twelve thousand dollars the budget is not going
24:59
Speaker 7: to get So yeah, look, it's going to blow a
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Speaker 7: hole in the boat.
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Speaker 2: You home process and effective everyone else has to subsidize that.
25:08
Speaker 2: Leff for Nonsolin, Thank you so much for Clark casting
25:12
Speaker 2: light on something very gloomy. Oh dearie, me, what an
25:16
Speaker 2: election after the break? Amazing scenes from Woke Australia. A
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Speaker 2: transgender soccer player goes to the court to punish an
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Speaker 2: activist saying that mentioned and played women's sports, and outside
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Speaker 2: court her bodyguard muscled up in our port Caroline Marcus,
25:35
Speaker 2: big surprise, another man identifying as a woman has won
25:39
Speaker 2: yet another sports event. No Lyn van Leeuven has just
25:43
Speaker 2: claimed two women's titles in the Professional Darts Corporation after
25:46
Speaker 2: bidding women both times. Meanwhile, in Sydney, women's rights activist
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Speaker 2: Cure Lee Smith now has no fewer than nine legal
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Speaker 2: actions against her from people angry that she supposed it's
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Speaker 2: wrong for men transgender women to play competitive sport against women.
26:04
Speaker 2: One is from One action is from a transgender activist
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Speaker 2: Riley Dennis plays in a soccer team which Lassie went
26:11
Speaker 2: undefeated with five biological males playing in it in a
26:15
Speaker 2: women's competition. I spoke to SCOE News reporter and host
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Speaker 2: Caroline Marcus earlier today she's been covering the story. Carol Marcus,
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Speaker 2: great to see you again. What happened in court today?
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Speaker 3: Look, there was dramatic scenes both inside and outside the
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Speaker 3: court today. Inside court it was the first time that
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Speaker 3: the trans football player Riley Dennis came face to face
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Speaker 3: with the political advocate Carly Smith, who she has taken
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Speaker 3: to court for vilifying her based on her gender identity. Now,
26:52
Speaker 3: this entire case centers around a couple of tweets that
26:56
Speaker 3: Carly Smith posted back in twenty twenty three. She mentioned
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Speaker 3: that some women she'd heard some women had been injured
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Speaker 3: by a trans player over a weekend of games. She'd
27:12
Speaker 3: also posted about the top goal scorer in the football
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Speaker 3: New South Wales Women's league, who she didn't identify by name,
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Speaker 3: but Miss Smith linked to a leaderboard which had Riley
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Speaker 3: Dennis's name on it. Back then, she played for another team.
27:31
Speaker 3: At the moment, she's playing for the controversial Flying Bats,
27:35
Speaker 3: which is a Sydney team that has five trans players
27:40
Speaker 3: and won its women's competition last year undefeated. Now, Riley
27:46
Speaker 3: Dennis said in evidence that was before the court that
27:50
Speaker 3: she was left feeling anxious and very upset by these
27:54
Speaker 3: tweets and left with concerns for her own and her
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Speaker 3: family safety. Miss Smith, when she took to the stand,
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Speaker 3: said that she doesn't believe that men of biological males
28:08
Speaker 3: can ever be women and her lawyer also argued Ms
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Speaker 3: Miss Voyer that is argued that Riley Dennis was an
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Speaker 3: activist herself. She had been had many videos on YouTube,
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Speaker 3: She had hundreds of thousands of followers in which she
28:28
Speaker 3: would post videos about why Santa Claus should be gender
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Speaker 3: neutral and why she is a queer supports Muslims, and
28:37
Speaker 3: he was arguing this was really about an activist against
28:41
Speaker 3: an activist, and that his client, Kerly Smith should be
28:45
Speaker 3: allowed to criticize some of that transgender ideology.
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Speaker 2: And what is Riley Dennis actually wanting from this court
28:53
Speaker 2: case just a stifling of opinion? Money? What is it?
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Speaker 2: Is it? What's actually at stake here?
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Speaker 3: Well, tangibly, Riley Dennis is asking for one hundred thousand
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Speaker 3: dollars in damages and an apology from Kiraly Smith for
29:12
Speaker 3: being vilified. Now, obviously it goes further than that. I
29:16
Speaker 3: think it would be fair to say that this bringing
29:20
Speaker 3: this case to the cause and so public means that
29:23
Speaker 3: this has become a sort of debate that if she
29:26
Speaker 3: gets a finding in her favor, Riley Dennis can then
29:30
Speaker 3: point to that and say that a court has found
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Speaker 3: that it is difficult, at least or illegal to criticize
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Speaker 3: transgender players on women's sporting teams, and that is at
29:42
Speaker 3: least how this is being framed by Kiraly Smith and
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Speaker 3: her supporters, and she had a few supporters in court
29:49
Speaker 3: as well. Some well known women's rights activists like Catharine
29:53
Speaker 3: Deeve's the former liberal candidate like Sal Grover, who is
29:57
Speaker 3: appealing her own landmark case, say that this is lawfare
30:01
Speaker 3: and that this is really a test for women's rights
30:04
Speaker 3: in this country and whether biological males should be able
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Speaker 3: to play women's sports, and whether that policy can be criticized.
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Speaker 2: It seems studded to me that having a debate about
30:16
Speaker 2: that is so fraught. I should just say, as far
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Speaker 2: as I understand it, you mentioned that, you know, initially
30:23
Speaker 2: there had been a woman injured by a transgender player,
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Speaker 2: as I understand that that was a different player, not
30:29
Speaker 2: Riley Dennis, just in case there's going to be some
30:31
Speaker 2: confusion there, But talking about people feeling at risk and
30:37
Speaker 2: all that and intimidated. What were the scenes outside the court?
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Speaker 3: Well, Riley Dennis arrived at court and left later surrounded
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Speaker 3: by more than twenty supporters. These included members of the
30:54
Speaker 3: Dykes on Bikes group that takes part in the Mardy
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Speaker 3: Graverory year ing their motorcycle vests. Look, it gave me
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Speaker 3: the impression that they were trying to perhaps intimidate us.
31:08
Speaker 3: They formed a shield around the court exit before she
31:11
Speaker 3: left the court. Later, and as we tried to ask
31:16
Speaker 3: Riley Dennis questions about today's hearing, they tried to block
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Speaker 3: our cameras. They pushed me and the cameraman I'm with,
31:26
Speaker 3: and then they accused us of intimidation and harassment. Take
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Speaker 3: a look. Do you still feel in fear for your
31:33
Speaker 3: safety and your family's safety, Riley?
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Speaker 10: This is intimidation and harassment. Get out of our way.
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Speaker 2: This is intimidation, harassment.
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Speaker 6: Get out of our way.
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Speaker 3: We're doing our jobs, We're reporting a story.
31:46
Speaker 10: Harassment. Get out of our way. This is intimidation and harassment.
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Speaker 3: Get out. Do you think you pushing us? Do you
31:52
Speaker 3: think pushing us is not intimidation?
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Speaker 2: Well, since a little bit of a dose of double
32:02
Speaker 2: standards there to me. But how did you feel? Oh?
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Speaker 3: Well, I certainly didn't feel that I was intimidating or
32:10
Speaker 3: harassing anyone. I was asking gentle questions about how she
32:16
Speaker 3: thought that today's proceedings went. It has been a pretty
32:20
Speaker 3: dramatic day.
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Speaker 2: In an in.
32:22
Speaker 3: And out of court, and the judge the magistrate will
32:25
Speaker 3: hand down her findings in this case as well as
32:28
Speaker 3: another case abilification case that was brought against Caraly Smith
32:34
Speaker 3: by a different transgender soccer player who we cannot name
32:39
Speaker 3: for legal reasons, who was also hurt by the same magistrates.
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Speaker 3: So both those cases will be handed down in July.
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Speaker 2: Andrew Well a lot to huge implications for a freedom
32:54
Speaker 2: of speech, of course, and I find it amazing that
32:57
Speaker 2: speeches seem to be so intimidated and needing of law fare.
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Speaker 2: It's just ridiculous to me. But that's the Australia we're in. Krola. Marcus,
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Speaker 2: well done, Thank you so much for your time.
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Speaker 3: Thank you.
33:13
Speaker 2: After the break, Donald Trump buys a Russia's excuse for
33:17
Speaker 2: murdering thirty four Ukrainian civilians. How much longer before Trump
33:21
Speaker 2: realizes Vladimir Putin is a war criminal who is making
33:24
Speaker 2: him seem stupid. I'm just hoping that Donald Trump realizes
33:32
Speaker 2: very soon that his friend Vladimir Putin's in fact the
33:35
Speaker 2: murderer's war criminal, playing him for a fool. Trump said
33:38
Speaker 2: he could end the war in Ukraine as little as
33:40
Speaker 2: a day, But Putin, the Russian president, is in fact
33:42
Speaker 2: refusing to say yes to even trump cease fire ideal,
33:45
Speaker 2: no matter how much the US crawls to him. Last Friday,
33:49
Speaker 2: Trump sent his special envoy, real estate mogul Steve Whitcoff
33:52
Speaker 2: to Putin for talks. Now, Whitcoff is such a Putin
33:55
Speaker 2: fan that he even put his hand on his heart
33:58
Speaker 2: when he saw Putin again. Yet just two days later,
34:03
Speaker 2: his heart throb had his army choose Palm Sunday, a
34:06
Speaker 2: religious day, to bomb Sumi, an Ukrainian city that just yesterday,
34:11
Speaker 2: when lots of church goes are in the street, thirty
34:13
Speaker 2: four people killed. Many world leaders condemned this obviously deliberate massacre,
34:18
Speaker 2: but Donald Trump just made an excuse. I think it
34:22
Speaker 2: was terrible, and I was told they made a mistake
34:25
Speaker 2: a mistake. But at least this massacre has prompted another
34:29
Speaker 2: split in the White House team. General Keith Kellogg, the
34:33
Speaker 2: man Trump originally appointed to be his envoy in Ukraine
34:36
Speaker 2: until the Russians wouldn't deal with him, called it out
34:39
Speaker 2: as a deliberate attack on civilians. He said, Palm Sunday,
34:41
Speaker 2: the palms Unday attack by Russian forces on civilian tags
34:45
Speaker 2: Atsumi crosses any line of decency. As a former military leader,
34:49
Speaker 2: I understand targeting and this is wrong. Kellogg also pushed
34:53
Speaker 2: back at a meeting and earlier meeting with Donald Trump
34:55
Speaker 2: when this idiot Whitcoff reportedly told Trump the quickest way
34:58
Speaker 2: to get a cease far was to simply hand Russia
35:01
Speaker 2: Crimea in the south of four provinces in the east,
35:04
Speaker 2: including two where the Ukraine is still almost hold almost half.
35:09
Speaker 2: Widkov wants to give Russia even more of Ukraine than
35:12
Speaker 2: Russia's been able to conquer in three years of war,
35:16
Speaker 2: joining US the country, so Foreign affairs writer Greg Sheridan
35:19
Speaker 2: of The Australian. Now, Greg, you know, I just can't
35:23
Speaker 2: believe what Donald Trump has done here and accepting the
35:27
Speaker 2: Russian excuse that it was just a mistake.
35:33
Speaker 11: Yeah, this has been a shocking month for Trump. Andrew
35:35
Speaker 11: Trump started off pretty well, and he's a mixed grill.
35:38
Speaker 11: A lot of his instincts are quite good. The reasons
35:41
Speaker 11: he was elected were quite good. But from the moment
35:46
Speaker 11: in the White House he berated Zelenski, the Ukrainian leader,
35:52
Speaker 11: then voted with Russia at the United nations. It's just
35:56
Speaker 11: been a terrible month for Trump. Now, Trump is not
35:59
Speaker 11: an idiot. You don't get to be president if you're
36:01
Speaker 11: an idiot. But he is astonishingly susceptible to flattery, and
36:07
Speaker 11: Putin engages in the most gross flattery, you know, having
36:11
Speaker 11: portraits painted of him and so forth. But how can
36:14
Speaker 11: any adult, you know be swayed by that? He then
36:20
Speaker 11: he's in love with strong men, dictators, So he's given
36:23
Speaker 11: Putin everything he wants, even allowing Putin to choose Trump's negotiator.
36:29
Speaker 11: This witkof looks like he does, look like a complete idiot,
36:32
Speaker 11: but you have to take him seriously. Of course, Trump
36:34
Speaker 11: invests authority in him, so Putin doesn't want to deal
36:37
Speaker 11: with Kellogg. And then Putin tells Trump all kinds of lies,
36:41
Speaker 11: goes on his murderous rampage, and even on that clip
36:46
Speaker 11: you played on Air Force One, Trump goes on to
36:48
Speaker 11: say he believes not only was he told it was
36:51
Speaker 11: a mistake, he believes it is a mistake. And then
36:53
Speaker 11: he says, oh, no, this is Biden's war, not my war,
36:56
Speaker 11: as though he has no responsibility for American policy. Now
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Speaker 11: it's hard to see where Trump gets a ceasefire out
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Speaker 11: of this, because he's already given Putin everything he wants,
37:08
Speaker 11: and Putin is just laughing at him. Both Putin and
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Speaker 11: China's she Jinping are playing this great power politics better
37:16
Speaker 11: than Donald Trump. And Trump is letting us down in
37:19
Speaker 11: the area where we thought he would be strong as
37:21
Speaker 11: a hard headed, ruthless negotiator.
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Speaker 2: Well, let's not forget too that Witkoff is only their
37:28
Speaker 2: spare parts of Putin crawler, way down on the total list.
37:32
Speaker 2: Putin wouldn't deal with Secret Saint Marco Rubio is supposedly
37:35
Speaker 2: in charge of foreign policy because Rubio knows that Putin's
37:38
Speaker 2: a war criminal, can't be trusted, wouldn't deal with General Kellogg,
37:42
Speaker 2: and so Witkoff gets sent as an absolute Putin arslicker.
37:47
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sorry to speak so crudely, but some
37:50
Speaker 2: things have to be called by their name. Greg. On
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Speaker 2: top of this, you got both Labor and the Coalition saying,
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Speaker 2: quite rightly, the world hasn't been this dangerous for decades.
38:02
Speaker 2: It's not just Russia. Of course, both worn about China
38:05
Speaker 2: in particular. Now, if that is the case, please tell
38:08
Speaker 2: me why halfway through this campaign neither side has said
38:13
Speaker 2: anything about what they would do to keep us safe.
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Speaker 11: Well, Andrew, you know that is a sixty four million
38:21
Speaker 11: dollar question. I don't want to be depressing to our
38:24
Speaker 11: beloved viewers and the readers of The Australian, but had
38:27
Speaker 11: to tell you. I got a piece in tomorrow's paper
38:30
Speaker 11: pronouncing this the worst election campaign I've ever seen. So
38:35
Speaker 11: there is this relentless militarization of China, Russia on the rampage,
38:39
Speaker 11: the world trade system collapsing, Trump casting doubt on the
38:43
Speaker 11: US alliance which has defined Australia since nineteen forty two.
38:47
Speaker 11: And our election debate features whether you can work from
38:51
Speaker 11: home for three and a half or four days, and
38:54
Speaker 11: whether we should punish supermarkets for making a profit, and
38:57
Speaker 11: every electoral bribe you can make. I think the Albanesi
39:01
Speaker 11: government absolutely deserves to be turned out, that Dutton opposition
39:05
Speaker 11: does not deserve to be elected. And I don't know
39:09
Speaker 11: why Dutton has Andrew Hasty in hiding. You know, Hasty
39:14
Speaker 11: is one of the very few people on the opposition
39:16
Speaker 11: front bench who is a substantial person outside of politics,
39:20
Speaker 11: but they've made no national use of him at all.
39:23
Speaker 11: They put all the sort of non entities and dead
39:27
Speaker 11: enders up for interview all the time, and they still
39:31
Speaker 11: the Liberals still have not released their defense policy. So
39:35
Speaker 11: they tell us this is a desperately dangerous time. They
39:39
Speaker 11: tell us the government is desperately failing to live up
39:42
Speaker 11: to its national duty.
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Speaker 2: And here we.
39:44
Speaker 11: Are less than a week away from the beginning of
39:47
Speaker 11: voting and they haven't even put out their defense policy,
39:50
Speaker 11: or their defense budget commitments or anything else. They're not
39:53
Speaker 11: asking for the government to be held account. Their wretched
39:57
Speaker 11: little focus groups are telling them that all they should
40:00
Speaker 11: do is offer money to voters. How About they thought
40:03
Speaker 11: voters had an iq above room temperature once and for
40:06
Speaker 11: once and actually said two things to them. I'm going
40:10
Speaker 11: to bribe you electorally, and also I'm going to defend you.
40:13
Speaker 2: How About they tried that. I said, I think you agreed,
40:18
Speaker 2: or you've said it yourself. I said weeks ago that
40:21
Speaker 2: this election should be keeping the Australians safe at home
40:24
Speaker 2: and safe in the world, and I thought the Liberals
40:27
Speaker 2: were acting that way. But they haven't mentioned the second
40:30
Speaker 2: half yet. And I've got a depressing thought for you
40:34
Speaker 2: about why Andrew Hasey is being kept in mothballs identity politics.
40:39
Speaker 2: He said, he didn't want women in combat roles, and
40:42
Speaker 2: he knows as a soldier, sas and he would by
40:46
Speaker 2: raising all this to defend the Chinese Australian vote, which
40:50
Speaker 2: was twice as high against the Coalition last election. And
40:53
Speaker 2: they don't want to offend that. And I think that's
40:55
Speaker 2: all that really comes down.
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Speaker 11: And I just can I so sad, Andrew. Can I
41:01
Speaker 11: add one thing there? He said he didn't want women
41:05
Speaker 11: in close infantry combat roles. It's okay for them to
41:08
Speaker 11: fight fly fighter airplanes and all that. And the other
41:11
Speaker 11: point I'd make is he was in mothballs long before
41:14
Speaker 11: that came out publicly.
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Speaker 2: There you go, Well, I don't get it either. Unbelievable.
41:20
Speaker 2: Greg Sheridan, thank you so much for your time. After
41:24
Speaker 2: the break. Britain's cream prime minister, a green prime minister
41:29
Speaker 2: does an elbow with a steel factory. Plus a policeman
41:33
Speaker 2: says saying, speak English, it's a hate crime. Britain under
41:42
Speaker 2: labor there is running the same disaster circus we see
41:45
Speaker 2: here in Australia. Under labor, you first jack up power
41:49
Speaker 2: prices with insane green policies and then virtually take over
41:53
Speaker 2: the steel mill that you've made uncompetitive. Now, how it easy?
41:57
Speaker 2: Did it? With the way Alice Steel Works giving a
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Speaker 2: two point four billion dollar package which state help to
42:04
Speaker 2: pay its bills and help it to turn it green.
42:07
Speaker 2: And in Britain that labor government last weekend effectively took
42:10
Speaker 2: over British Steel, paying its bills and effectively running it
42:15
Speaker 2: before it's sold because its Chinese owner said you would
42:18
Speaker 2: have to close join me from London? Is right? Broadcast
42:21
Speaker 2: in column says to the cracker esther, this is nuts.
42:24
Speaker 2: What is the real story here? Is it the power
42:26
Speaker 2: prices among other things that a rising costs, or is
42:29
Speaker 2: it the Chinese owners closing the company as alleged to
42:33
Speaker 2: make Britain more dependent on Chinese steel.
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Speaker 10: Well, the Chinese company Jingia alleged that the company was
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Speaker 10: losing about seven hundred thousand pounds a day, so it
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Speaker 10: was just completely unsustainable.
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Speaker 1: In their view.
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Speaker 10: Now, the story of British Steel is one sorry saga
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Speaker 10: of hot potato, where you know they had the Wilson
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Speaker 10: government first privatizing it in the nineteen sixties, and then
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Speaker 10: my Rethatche's government sold it off and then it was
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Speaker 10: renationalized again in twenty twenty. Before that, it was bought
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Speaker 10: again and privatized by this now Chinese owners. So for
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Speaker 10: the British government to pretend like it hasn't systemically undermined
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Speaker 10: steel production in the UK is absolutely ludicrous. And that
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Speaker 10: combined with the fact that we've basically made our energy
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Speaker 10: prices the most expensive in the industrial developed world because
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Speaker 10: of ridiculous things like net zero, or the fact that
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Speaker 10: we're not taking advantage of our own natural gas resources,
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Speaker 10: and the fact that we're basically dependent on the French
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Speaker 10: and Norwegians for their excess energy which they then sell
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Speaker 10: to us at a markup, or the fact that you know,
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Speaker 10: there's been no long term thinking with our own energy.
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Speaker 10: It's hard for the government to pretend us if they're
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Speaker 10: saving anything when really they're just doing a patch a
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Speaker 10: patchwork and putting it like gum and plaster on a
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Speaker 10: problem that successive governments have created. It's actually pathetic. You know,
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Speaker 10: they're spending upwards of a billion pounds trying to save
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Speaker 10: this company and the twenty seven hundred jobs associated directly
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Speaker 10: with it. But what happens next? Are they actually going
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Speaker 10: to invest in steel production so we can actually produce
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Speaker 10: our own steel and not be flooded in twenty twenty
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Speaker 10: six by Chinese steel. When the restrictions are lifted, are
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Speaker 10: they going to reduce energy prices by investing in energy
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Speaker 10: that we have. They're shutting oil and gas production in
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Speaker 10: the North Sea. I mean, it's completely ridiculous. You can't
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Speaker 10: have one without the other. And so this government is
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Speaker 10: clearly only doing this because it's scared of reform and
44:20
Speaker 10: the kind of momentum is getting with these types of voters.
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Speaker 10: They didn't have the same reaction when a core power
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Speaker 10: plant Talbot in Wales closed last September, but somehow they
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Speaker 10: brought in emergency powers and made MPs go into Parliament
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Speaker 10: on a Saturday to show how serious they are about this,
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Speaker 10: when really they could have done something a.
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Speaker 2: Lot sooner well, like cat pairer prices for all Britain.
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Speaker 2: What's a bit that the fact, you know, union heavy
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Speaker 2: steel industry, the union part might have been the effector
44:50
Speaker 2: as well esther. Honestly, I don't know what it is
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Speaker 2: with Britain, but your free speech tradition just looks sick
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Speaker 2: about the day. Latest example policeman telling some old gentlemen
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Speaker 2: that's saying speak English to someone is a hate crime.
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Speaker 2: I've listened, you've alleged to say, speak English. Potentially someone
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Speaker 2: could perceive that as a hate crime. What does that
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Speaker 2: little confrontation tell.
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Speaker 10: You, Esther, It tells us what we've already known, that
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Speaker 10: we've lost our minds. If you watch the entirety of
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Speaker 10: the clip, one of the people said, actually they said
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Speaker 10: speak clearly because one of them had a hearing impairment,
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Speaker 10: which makes which if I was a police officer, I
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Speaker 10: would just say, okay, never mind. But what has happened
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Speaker 10: to Britain is our police officers are not choosing to
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Speaker 10: solve burglaries or murders or more serious crimes, or detain
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Speaker 10: people that walk around our streets with machetes. What they're
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Speaker 10: doing is they're taking the easy way out because the
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Speaker 10: government has given them excuse by going after hate crimes.
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Speaker 10: I actually don't think the police should be involved in
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Speaker 10: any sorts of hate crime. I think it should be
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Speaker 10: a separate body that has separate funding, and that is
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Speaker 10: not taken us seriously because we have bigger things to
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Speaker 10: deal with, like burglaries, like serious crimes, like you know,
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Speaker 10: people actually walking our streets with knives and with dangerous
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Speaker 10: objects and being radicalized and trying to harm members of
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Speaker 10: the public. But the police are not going to do
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Speaker 10: that because this is an easy way. I mean, these people,
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Speaker 10: the police have got to the point where they're going
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Speaker 10: to journalist houses and questioning them over a comment that
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Speaker 10: was left on their Twitter two years ago because apparently
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Speaker 10: it was a hate crime. I mean, how much easier
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Speaker 10: is it to sit behind your computer and sift through
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Speaker 10: the internet for hate crimes instead of breaking up fights
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Speaker 10: outside of pubs and bars in London?
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Speaker 2: You tell me, oh absolutely, I mean, big fairest, who
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Speaker 2: would you rather arrest some street hoood with a machete
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Speaker 2: running around or an elderly gentleman having a cup of
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Speaker 2: coffee who's hearing impaired. I mean, the stands the reason,
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Speaker 2: doesn't it. Meanwhile, more illegal immigrants are pouring into Britain.
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Speaker 2: On Saturday, more than six hundred more boat people arrived
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Speaker 2: that You've got new records being set all this year.
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Speaker 2: Why is that?
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Speaker 10: Because the Summer government have lost complete control. And it's
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Speaker 10: not because they don't know what to do. It's because
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Speaker 10: they do know what to do, they just don't want
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Speaker 10: to do it. And I suspect alongside rising energy prices
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Speaker 10: and ridiculous house costs. This influx of legal immigrants, coupled
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Speaker 10: with the really high unsustainable levels of legal immigration, are
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Speaker 10: what's going to radicalize this country come the next general election.
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Speaker 10: They have completely lost control. They keep talking about arresting,
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Speaker 10: you know, the people smugglers and breaking up their network,
47:21
Speaker 10: but it's like a game of whack a mole. I mean,
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Speaker 10: some of these gangs are making upwards of a million
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Speaker 10: pounds a month just from transporting people from unsavory parts
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Speaker 10: of the world to the West, including France and the UK.
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Speaker 10: So there's no other way to stop this than to
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Speaker 10: make the UK an undesirable destination. If you come here
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Speaker 10: illegally via a small boat, you will either be imprisoned
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Speaker 10: on the Ascension Islands, for example.
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Speaker 2: Or you will be sent back.
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Speaker 10: These are very basic, obvious things that the government should do.
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Speaker 10: But because Kirstama is a human rights lawyer and has
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Speaker 10: this tradition of actually not basically acting in the interest
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Speaker 10: of the British public, and instead of his human rights
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Speaker 10: friends lawyer's friends, he's not going to do it. The
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Speaker 10: answer couldn't be more obvious. A child could do this.
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Speaker 2: Well. I know this for one, I think the way
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Speaker 2: things are going is that you should rename your Border Force.
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Speaker 2: Having another look at the overlay iran of the Border
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Speaker 2: Force with these six hundred both people, what border force
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Speaker 2: is actually helping people to arrive in Britain rather than
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Speaker 2: I don't know what you do to the boat, send
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Speaker 2: them back like we do and tow them back, or
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Speaker 2: I don't get it. S the crack you, thank you,
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Speaker 2: I know that's it. We'll call it border Taxi. That's
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Speaker 2: it from me, folks, coming up now, Sharry Markson, good Night,