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Tom McCarthy on Doug Pederson's impact | Countdown to Kickoff · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: With the call of the game on CBS Sports. It's
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  Speaker 1: our good friend Tom McCarthy and it's crossover season, Tom,
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  Speaker 1: your favorite. I'm doing great, Jap. I mean it's uh,
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  Speaker 1: it's I like this time of year. It keeps my
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  Speaker 1: mind kind of rolling a little bit. Uh. This is
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  Speaker 1: a little heavier though. I got two football games this weekend,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the Jags obviously in the Colts, and then Monday,
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  Speaker 1: I've got the Bills and the Titans on radio. So uh,
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  Speaker 1: combining that with baseball, it's a it's a cool, hectic nous,
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  Speaker 1: no doubt. Philly's in a wildcard position. That's good news. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: pretty good spot. You know, we're playing really well. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's amazing. What what a you know, it's such a
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  Speaker 1: long year. I mean, I'm telling you people left the
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  Speaker 1: Phillies for dead back in June, and then they made
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  Speaker 1: a managerial change, which I didn't think was the reason
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  Speaker 1: they needed. I didn't think they needed to do it,
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  Speaker 1: but it is definitely paid off. I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: Rob Thompson has done, but man he is. He's got
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  Speaker 1: some magic potion he's been sprinkling all over. Tom McCarthy
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  Speaker 1: with us from CBS Sports it is it again a
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  Speaker 1: new world around the Jacksonville Jaguars. Doug Peterson has been
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  Speaker 1: at this for a long time though in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: He's got the experience of a player, of the assistant
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  Speaker 1: coach of a head coach who has won a Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: So we're starting to just see glimpses of that in
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  Speaker 1: the regular season, how he operates day to day, how
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  Speaker 1: he works with the locker room, how he deals with
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  Speaker 1: his coaching staff. Um. And it seems like a total
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  Speaker 1: one eighty obviously from last year. What do we expect
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  Speaker 1: as the season digs deeper from a Doug Peterson led organization. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think you just described it perfectly, JP. I think
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  Speaker 1: you know we were we were in Houston last week
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  Speaker 1: for the Colts in the Texans, and we were talking
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  Speaker 1: about Lovey Smith taking home for the for the Texans.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know if this is the right term
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  Speaker 1: that I I should use, but I've used it before
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  Speaker 1: with baseball. There's an adult kind of in the room
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  Speaker 1: now and the stability that that brings, just the ease
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  Speaker 1: that that brings is so important, and I think you're
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  Speaker 1: probably seeing a little of that right now. I know
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  Speaker 1: it was disappointing not getting the first weekend win, but
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  Speaker 1: I think that the results will follow the foundation that
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  Speaker 1: he's building. And I know Jacksonville fans have heard that before.
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  Speaker 1: Um they heard it so long with Gus Bradley and
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  Speaker 1: it was almost there, Like it was almost there. And
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  Speaker 1: I just think that you're gonna find a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more of a smooth function with Doug. And I think,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, the relationship part of this is really
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  Speaker 1: important in sports, and I think he's got that down
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  Speaker 1: on the the offensive side of things, sees the play caller.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously on the sideline press Taylor is up in the booth.
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  Speaker 1: But the way they attacked the game, think about it statistically,
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  Speaker 1: In some instances it's a gut decision for Doug, but
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  Speaker 1: he'll go for it a lot. And he said earlier
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  Speaker 1: this week his his philosophy mainly is throw to score
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  Speaker 1: and run to win. And you know, there was some
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  Speaker 1: questions around in the twenty yard line at the at
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  Speaker 1: the red zone. They got away from the run a
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  Speaker 1: litt a bit last week, but there were some plays open.
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  Speaker 1: It might feel a little different offensively around here, just
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  Speaker 1: the way they approached the game. Yeah, And I think
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  Speaker 1: that the past that that that Trevor missed with E.
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  Speaker 1: T N. I mean, I think that's an indication of
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  Speaker 1: what's there if you pass and you know he terms
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  Speaker 1: just gotta hit, He's just gotta hit that pass. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he's got a gifted athlete who he knows very well.
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  Speaker 1: But I do think that you're going to see I
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  Speaker 1: think you can just see a comfort level too with
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  Speaker 1: with with Lawrence that that he'll that he didn't have
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  Speaker 1: last year quite frankly, because you do have a former
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  Speaker 1: quarterback as your head coach who knows how to handle quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's going to really help. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I got the sense last week watching the game back
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  Speaker 1: that that E. T N is he's gonna be. He's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be involved big time in this offense. And I
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  Speaker 1: think they'd like to involve him even more. So that's
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  Speaker 1: pretty cool if he could, if he could evolve into
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  Speaker 1: the back that they thought he was when they picked
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  Speaker 1: them good different style backs. He's the guy who can
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  Speaker 1: go outside and then play. And then he got James Robinson.
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  Speaker 1: If you need four yards and he's probably gonna get
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  Speaker 1: four yards. That's this is what he does. And then
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  Speaker 1: veteran receivers. That helps a young quarterback to all these
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  Speaker 1: guys at least the starters are on their second at
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  Speaker 1: least their second contract in the NFL. Not that that
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  Speaker 1: really matters, but experience is a big thing for a
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  Speaker 1: young quarterback. Those guys will be where they need to be.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta tell you that when when they signed Christian Kirk,
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  Speaker 1: I thought this was that was a huge pickup for them, um,
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  Speaker 1: and I think you saw that in Game one. I
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  Speaker 1: think that he can really develop into you know, not
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  Speaker 1: that Marvin's not, but Marvin's little older, so Kirk can
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  Speaker 1: be able to mold himself into that go to wide receiver. Then.
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  Speaker 1: I think he really wanted to be consistently in Arizona,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, they just there was not always enough
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  Speaker 1: room in the in the wide receiver room. So I
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  Speaker 1: like him a lot. I think you're gonna see his
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  Speaker 1: focal point be even you know, spotlighted more. Tom McCarthy
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  Speaker 1: with us from CBS has the call of the Colts
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  Speaker 1: and the Jaguars in Week two. The defense is new
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  Speaker 1: all over a place. Well, they're taking the ball away
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  Speaker 1: to three of them. Last week against Washington, a season
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  Speaker 1: after they had only nine all that's good for business.
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  Speaker 1: You take the ball away, that's, um, that's gonna give
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  Speaker 1: your team a lot of opportunities to win, and it
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  Speaker 1: did actually give them an opportunity to win last week.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's a theory that I I think that
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  Speaker 1: Doug Peterson had when he was with the Eagles that
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  Speaker 1: you have to have good linebackers, um, like, really good linebackers,
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  Speaker 1: really athletic linebackers. And I think I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: it's if. If it's if, it's why you have what
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  Speaker 1: you have right now. I mean, obviously had Josh Allen before,
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  Speaker 1: so but that then you add you know, Walker with
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  Speaker 1: the first pick overall. Um, you know that's only part
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  Speaker 1: of it. So I think that that that's fun man,
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  Speaker 1: when I mean you had Miles Jack for all these years,
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  Speaker 1: but these guys are a little different, like there's a
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  Speaker 1: little more season to the middle. Um. And I think
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  Speaker 1: that the youthfulness of Walker, I mean he I thought
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  Speaker 1: he shined pretty good on film watching it just the
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  Speaker 1: other day. I think he's gonna be pretty good, and
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  Speaker 1: he think he's gonna be pretty good. The take away
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  Speaker 1: as it's it's so important and particularly in the other
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  Speaker 1: team's end, Um, and that's really what hurt the Colts
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  Speaker 1: Last week with the Texans, they had a couple all
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  Speaker 1: takeaways or giveaways that really hurt. There were twenty one
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  Speaker 1: points in that game off turnovers for both teams combined.
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  Speaker 1: So well, the Colts have that salty veteran quarterback now
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  Speaker 1: they've been they've been kind of playing that game the
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  Speaker 1: last few years. Obviously, Philip papers Carson wins wasn't the answer.
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  Speaker 1: And is Matt Ryan the answer for them? They've got
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  Speaker 1: a lot of other pieces on that team. They feel
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  Speaker 1: like they're kind of knocking on the door. Is this
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  Speaker 1: the one that gets them over the top. Well, it's funny, um.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they should have scored forty points the other
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  Speaker 1: day against the Texas. They really should have. I mean
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  Speaker 1: they had a drop in the end zone. You know,
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  Speaker 1: they had a fourth down inside the five. They decided
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  Speaker 1: to go for it and it was snuffed out. He
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  Speaker 1: looked he looked really good. He it looked like he
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  Speaker 1: was thirty seven years old. It's funny JP when he
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  Speaker 1: walks into a room. I hadn't seen him about ten
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  Speaker 1: years in person, and he's a Philly guy, so I
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  Speaker 1: saw him often back when he was younger. He looks
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  Speaker 1: like a movie star like he is. He he looks
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  Speaker 1: like Brady like. He's tall and he's trim, and he's
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  Speaker 1: in great shape. I thought he looked really good. He
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  Speaker 1: through through through fifty two yards. You know, the the
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  Speaker 1: rub is they don't want to run Jonathan tail Or
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  Speaker 1: thirty one times, but they needed to run Jonathan tail
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  Speaker 1: Or thirty one times. You guys are gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: stop the run. I mean, that's the biggest thing that
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars are gonna have to stop the run and make
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  Speaker 1: them a one dimensional team. And that's really hard to
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  Speaker 1: do against the cults. But you have Hey, listen, they
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  Speaker 1: have one in Jacksonville in six seven years, right in
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  Speaker 1: six and a row. It's weird. It's weird how those
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  Speaker 1: things roll. And they've got a horseshoe in their helmet
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  Speaker 1: and everything exactly, and it's up and it's the right
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  Speaker 1: way too, it's not the other way, right, uh, Tom.
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  Speaker 1: You know it's a strange schedule for Indy two. Five
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  Speaker 1: of the first seven are in the division, so you know,
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  Speaker 1: they tied the first one. If they come out and
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  Speaker 1: lose a couple of these early ones, then Mr Urstay
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  Speaker 1: is getting upset and that's not good for business for
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  Speaker 1: those guys, no, no doubt. And plus they have the
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  Speaker 1: Chiefs in that mix as well. I mean, it's not
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  Speaker 1: an easy run two games against the type. Um, it's
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  Speaker 1: not an easy run for them. I still think though,
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  Speaker 1: that they're really good team. Um. I think that the
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  Speaker 1: part of it is, you know, can they do enough defensively?
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  Speaker 1: And I think they can to give their offense enough
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  Speaker 1: and they've got to sustained drives and I know they
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  Speaker 1: don't want to run Tower thirty times a game. But man,
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  Speaker 1: he is he's a special dude. He is a special dude. You.
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  Speaker 1: He grew up in Jersey, this town called Salem, New Jersey,
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  Speaker 1: and it's a little town and it's a little high school.
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  Speaker 1: And he looked like he was playing that he was
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  Speaker 1: a oversized twelve year old playing and Pop Warner against
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  Speaker 1: like five but seven or eight year old when he
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  Speaker 1: played high school football. It's kind of like Derrick Henry Yuley, right,
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  Speaker 1: kind of like that's exactly I think. I was just
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  Speaker 1: thinking it's exactly like that. It's exactly. And they're both
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  Speaker 1: in the division. Right. Yeah, Yeah, good for you guys, Hey, Tom,
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  Speaker 1: it's great to visit with you. Thanks for taking the time.
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  Speaker 1: I know you have a busy schedule. We'll have a
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  Speaker 1: great game on Sunday. Yeah, we'll see on Sunday.