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THE QUARANTINED: Overriding The Algorithms Of Life And Music · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: Shown from the Quarantine and you've just released your lightest single, Nemesis.
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  Speaker 2: My friend.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry, tell me a bit about a friend of mine.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, this friend of mine? My bad, I am, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So tell me about that. How was how did that
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  Speaker 1: come about? And how has that been tracking? And what
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  Speaker 1: are your vision spoke where you want to bring for yourself.
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  Speaker 4: So Nemesis, the lyrics came to me in like a
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  Speaker 4: you know, like a lightning bolt in the middle of
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  Speaker 4: the night, and it was, you know, they just sort
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  Speaker 4: of spawned out of me, and you know, about an
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  Speaker 4: hour forty you know, forty five minutes or an hour,
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  Speaker 4: and the music came much much later. I thought that
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  Speaker 4: it was, you know, just going to be a cool
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  Speaker 4: poem that that I'll have, you know sometime, and I
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  Speaker 4: didn't think that I would, you know, I didn't write
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  Speaker 4: it thinking this is going to be a song.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It became a challenge to me to turn it into
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  Speaker 4: a song because for me, it was a long form poem.
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  Speaker 1: Right the pretty bump uh when I say full on like,
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  Speaker 1: they they're deep, you know, and it carries with it,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, an emotional energy that you want to admit
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  Speaker 1: to your audience and listenership. So to turn that into
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  Speaker 1: a songha to take away from what you may put
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  Speaker 1: into it would be a challenge, I imagine.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's uh yeah, I mean it's yeah. The music
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  Speaker 4: was I put it in there with well, I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 4: I'm terrible.
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking right now.
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  Speaker 1: It's later where you are I can't be here again, celeb.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all right, okay, so promises the music I
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  Speaker 4: d I. I wanted to put Aliyah's tell Me about Somebody,
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  Speaker 4: that rhythm that dent dent and then yeah, you know
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  Speaker 4: with all those breaks and everything, and put that into
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  Speaker 4: a rock context.
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  Speaker 2: To put that into like a real you know.
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  Speaker 4: Rock context that instead of just the pop context like it.
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  Speaker 2: Had been with you know, Timbaland's song. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And so that was the that was the inspiration for
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  Speaker 4: for me writing the riff. And you know, I took
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  Speaker 4: that bit of just that bit and gave that to
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  Speaker 4: the musicians in recording so that they knew, you know,
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  Speaker 4: where I was getting the reference from, and then for
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  Speaker 4: them to expand upon it and do everything that they
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  Speaker 4: wanted to do with yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it has a nice school and my stript
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  Speaker 3: that truck it's of course yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's you know that, it's it those those the
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  Speaker 4: at least the you know, it's right around the corner.
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  Speaker 4: It's right around the bend, the future with no love,
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  Speaker 4: terror with no end.
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  Speaker 2: It's that. That is the first line that hit me.
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  Speaker 4: And when because I wrote out that first line it's
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  Speaker 4: right around the corner. Yeah, and to me, that symbolizes,
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  Speaker 4: you know, a whole lot of paranoia, which is a
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  Speaker 4: good part of anxiety.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's a good depression, it's a good part
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  Speaker 2: of all of the negative feelings that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but at the same time, you know, that's also
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  Speaker 4: a c CR line. Yeah, gives you a different feeling there.
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  Speaker 3: The corner, you know, a positive it's like use harb.
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  Speaker 4: You know, that's if I remember correctly, it's you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's you know kind of at least I always feel
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  Speaker 4: like it's you know, like a happy drive.
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  Speaker 2: You know, That's how are feels like it.
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  Speaker 4: But in this I wanted to use it to relay
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  Speaker 4: this overall sense of of dread and fear that you
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  Speaker 4: have when in confrontation.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there's a whole.
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  Speaker 4: Lot of the I mean, the song and the concept
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  Speaker 4: of it is is you know, epitomizing the character.
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  Speaker 2: Of a bully, of a narcist, of a of a
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  Speaker 2: person who.
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  Speaker 4: Acts like they're for you, but it's really really not,
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  Speaker 4: you know yea, and in a way, yeah, like and
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  Speaker 4: in some circumstances, you know, we would all like to
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  Speaker 4: think most of the time it's they don't know that
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  Speaker 4: they're actually against you. They're they're just doing what comes
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  Speaker 4: naturally to them. But this is about ulterior motives and
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  Speaker 4: some of the times, you know, I people just something
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  Speaker 4: turns on, you know, they see something about you, they
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  Speaker 4: and to them, they feel like they've got to attack it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And this song is about that confrontation.
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  Speaker 4: It's about overcoming and understanding the personality profile of a
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  Speaker 4: narcissist and.
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  Speaker 2: What they'll do if you let them. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It's also about taking that It's really not you know,
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  Speaker 4: about the narcissists, it's about the writers, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Response, what am I going to do about it?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: And for the entire song, I feel like it keeps
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  Speaker 4: you in the driver's seat of you, you know, in
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  Speaker 4: a way, it's kind of like, you know, there's R. L.
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  Speaker 4: Segin novels where you choose your own ending.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're own ending.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, But once you know I come to understand the
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  Speaker 1: narcissist and how they work. They really become manipulate.
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  Speaker 2: Eight.
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  Speaker 1: It's so easily manipulated. You can predict their response. There's
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  Speaker 1: almost verbatim. It's sounds quite amusing.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, once you've been across that rob, Yeah, once you
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  Speaker 4: understand the profile and you actually believe that that is
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  Speaker 4: the thing and accept them for what they are they.
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  Speaker 1: Are exactly instead of as though they were a normal person,
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  Speaker 1: because that's what it's just so shocking and like, oh
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  Speaker 1: my gosh, what it's this person doing.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's that exception of no, they are.
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  Speaker 1: This horrible person. And then it's just like, is it
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  Speaker 1: really that simple? Did I miss something?
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  Speaker 3: So?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, And a lot of times I found where
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  Speaker 4: it truly it comes down to just you choosing to
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  Speaker 4: not react, to not react, to not give it. That's
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  Speaker 4: why the song is I'll never go back in the
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  Speaker 4: in the bridge part, this song is saying I'll never
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  Speaker 4: rewind to that place in time that nemesis friend of mine. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you know, but it's it's really if you think about it,
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  Speaker 4: and narcisst will put you through the entire five stages
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  Speaker 4: of grief. It's about and once you get to acceptances,
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  Speaker 4: when you finally are able to overcome it.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, interesting, I take it actually, Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so the song is really the fact you you know,
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  Speaker 4: if you're writing it, as you know, if you're like
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  Speaker 4: you're writing a ride and you're the writer, you'll see
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  Speaker 4: another character go through the five stages of grief.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 1: That's so, that's that's very very interesting. It's very it's like,
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  Speaker 1: we'll take on that because it's true. It's when we
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  Speaker 1: gets there and how do I survive and without computing
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  Speaker 1: homicide or be without going insane yourself trying to think
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  Speaker 1: inside the mind of somebody like that. It's yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: certainly it changes you and hopefully most people for the best,
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  Speaker 1: not you know, not to become like that. But it's
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  Speaker 1: certainly a journey when you've if you've unfortunately about to
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  Speaker 1: be on that, which yeah, onwards and opwards. And the
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  Speaker 1: best part about it is if you can use those
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  Speaker 1: kind of experiences and make music out of it and
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  Speaker 1: turn it into a positive, then you've won.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's an extra tick on to your side.
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  Speaker 1: It's yeah, rather than it's being like another issue that
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  Speaker 1: I've going to deal with it. It's like you use
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  Speaker 1: it for your advantage, and certainly.
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  Speaker 3: It's handy. It's nice. It's a nice if you right
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  Speaker 3: back at them too as well. I think when you.
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  Speaker 2: Can do that.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, and I hope that the song is really,
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  Speaker 4: you know, in the end a win for everybody who
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  Speaker 4: you know and listens to it in that way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's a great track.
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  Speaker 1: And I have just said you said, like the chorus
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  Speaker 1: like it's it's really it's you hear it. It's funny
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  Speaker 1: because I had been listening to it and then I
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  Speaker 1: was I downloaded a couple of the tracks and then
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  Speaker 1: I was have my EarPods in and I was doing
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  Speaker 1: something and was just on a random play and it
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  Speaker 1: come on. I'm like, oh, I looked to this song
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  Speaker 1: and it was yours and I didn't realize and when
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  Speaker 1: the chorus coming and I went, oh, that's it, and
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  Speaker 1: it is. It's that chorus that really it hits. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's it's kind of like it grows on you. It
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  Speaker 1: definitely does, you know. And it's you know, the you
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  Speaker 1: stay like the reference between like rock metal and rap,
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  Speaker 1: and it's yeah, you can definitely see those two in
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  Speaker 1: there and almost even I tentatively say a little into the.
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  Speaker 3: Nashville influence as well. It's it's could have been sounds good.
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  Speaker 2: I like it.
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  Speaker 3: It's a hybrid over all the good things. So yeah, thank.
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  Speaker 2: You, I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's you know, there's the the stadium musicians themselves
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  Speaker 4: were saying, I'm going to play the California rock thing
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  Speaker 4: in there. Oh yes, because that's where I'm from from California,
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  Speaker 4: and the big began in Los Angeles, but we're all
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  Speaker 4: recording it in Nashville.
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  Speaker 2: We're recording at Blackbird Studios.
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  Speaker 4: And Ville and so you know, there's all of it
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  Speaker 4: was put together in a range before I even delivered
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  Speaker 4: it to the Nashville studio. So to me, the the
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  Speaker 4: to me, the Nashville influence is really the sonic quality
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  Speaker 4: of everything, the warmth of everything.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: These API boards that you know have been there since
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  Speaker 4: you know, the nineteen seventies or you know, that's something
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  Speaker 4: when the big one in Studio B is you know,
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  Speaker 4: that's that's the one that Miley Cyrus and Taylor Swift
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  Speaker 4: and like all of.
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  Speaker 2: The pop is used to record all.
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  Speaker 4: Of their you know, all of the multi instrument you
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  Speaker 4: know tracks that they had and the big chestral stuff
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  Speaker 4: where they have strings and horns and piano and organ
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  Speaker 4: and drums and guitar.
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  Speaker 2: And then electric guitar and then the solo electric guitar.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 4: They there's like nine satellite rooms around this thing. Studio
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  Speaker 4: bat is massive. It's a massive room. And we were
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  Speaker 4: in there just jamming it just these drugs and they
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  Speaker 4: were listening to the tracks and just laying it out
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  Speaker 4: in that.
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  Speaker 2: It was great to use that room in.
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  Speaker 4: This way because even the even the studio managers like
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  Speaker 4: he's like, we don't get a lot of times where it's.
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  Speaker 2: Just people to a few people to lock into it.
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  Speaker 2: And he's, oh, that's right, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So it sounds like obviously you're in big in
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  Speaker 1: the studio and bringing it together once it's you're taking
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  Speaker 1: it from that concept or something you've you know, put
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  Speaker 1: together yourself and bringing other musicians to it.
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  Speaker 3: Tell me about that. How did did that man like
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  Speaker 3: was a.
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  Speaker 1: Chase buyer freely or did you were you open to
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  Speaker 1: you know, add import or how did that end up
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  Speaker 1: to be what it is?
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  Speaker 2: It?
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  Speaker 3: The full finished product?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I actually recorded it myself and with a
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  Speaker 4: couple of other studio musicians who and you know, essentially
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  Speaker 4: I gave them the the song forum, the with the
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  Speaker 4: lyrics and the vocals and the rhythm guitars, all the
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  Speaker 4: all the rhythm guitars in the bass done. And I
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  Speaker 4: gave them the idea and the concept of the song,
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  Speaker 4: the influences, you know what I was trying to get,
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  Speaker 4: you know, get it to sound similar to and then
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  Speaker 4: I let them have creative control over it, to create
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  Speaker 4: their parts within the framework.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Then once that once I had gone through that process.
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  Speaker 4: So I had gone through that process, and then I
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  Speaker 4: was trying to mix it myself for a solid you know,
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  Speaker 4: a couple of years, and I couldn't get it to
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  Speaker 4: be the you know, sound the right way. There were
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  Speaker 4: parts that I liked, and then there are parts where
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't even remember exactly what I did,
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  Speaker 4: and I feel.
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  Speaker 3: Like I recreated again. I couldn't tell you I've done
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  Speaker 3: how I do it again?
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  Speaker 2: I don't even Yeah, I don't even know. And so.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and eventually, what what I realized was that I
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  Speaker 4: wasn't I was looking at it from the creator's perspective,
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  Speaker 4: and once I look at it from the unknowing unassuming,
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  Speaker 4: regular person and took away.
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  Speaker 2: All of my.
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  Speaker 4: Pre cognitive knowledge that I have of everything, And essentially
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  Speaker 4: I would close my eyes and you know, put it
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  Speaker 4: in between listening to a whole bunch of stuff that's
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  Speaker 4: nothing like it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, then bring the track.
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  Speaker 4: So it's like, you know, you're cleansing your ears, You're
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  Speaker 4: cleansing your mind of all of the things that you
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  Speaker 4: think and feel about the song of what, because you
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  Speaker 4: hear it in your head a lot of times better
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  Speaker 4: than what it actually is on on the stereotape.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes when you're doing it yourself.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it gives me hard to introduce your music like that.
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  Speaker 2: Something hard, Yeah, right, right, it's hard to separate those mentalities.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I found that when I so, I had the all
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  Speaker 4: these finished versions, and I knew that they weren't good enough,
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  Speaker 4: but I knew that that the ideas and the concepts
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  Speaker 4: of what I was going for, and to give myself
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  Speaker 4: another chance at nailing all of the production and all
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  Speaker 4: of my parts again would actually be a favor to myself.
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  Speaker 4: Because I've been listening to them for three years now,
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  Speaker 4: I'm memorized every single second everything. So it's like when
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  Speaker 4: I showed up to do all the records, to do
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  Speaker 4: all of my guitar parts and everything. I knew exactly
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  Speaker 4: what to do. You know, a lot of they would
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  Speaker 4: be like, well, that take was just fine, and I'm like, no,
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  Speaker 4: at least give me three every time and then we'll
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  Speaker 4: pick from the best three, but three minimum. And so
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  Speaker 4: I gave myself that space to really use all of
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  Speaker 4: the because for me, I'm improving all the time.
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  Speaker 3: I'm always yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know, to get better.
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  Speaker 4: And so three years of that and listening back to
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  Speaker 4: where I was three years ago is actually a really
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  Speaker 4: big jump, like a small.
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  Speaker 3: Bench town and it's like stars going off for who
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  Speaker 3: are we normally don't get this place? What's going on?
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  Speaker 3: It's hard.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So you know, once you give yourself that, that
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  Speaker 4: that good second chance in a in this uh, in
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  Speaker 4: this situation at a world class studio.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's precio. That's a lot of pressure, it's like yeah, but.
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  Speaker 2: For me, I felt perfectly calm because I knew all
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  Speaker 2: my parts. So for me, it wasn't sure. It was
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  Speaker 2: finally just oh God, I could be done with it.
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  Speaker 4: Thank God, I finally get the version that I'm looking for.
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  Speaker 4: Like that's that's that was the relief that it was
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  Speaker 4: so mansions.
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  Speaker 3: Of get tracked, like it's like which ones which, and yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's but.
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  Speaker 2: I knew exactly what I wanted to do.
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  Speaker 4: And so when you take away that and just for me,
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  Speaker 4: it was I spent the entire you know, once I
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  Speaker 4: booked the session, which was about a month or so,
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  Speaker 4: month and a half or so out, I spent the
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  Speaker 4: two weeks just you know, clearing my mind of everything
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  Speaker 4: that I needed to do and focusing on just the
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  Speaker 4: if I was going to practice anything, it was just
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  Speaker 4: going to be the techniques of the particular parts, not
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  Speaker 4: even the full parts themselves, just the technique that it
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  Speaker 4: needs to be done. So that way I could leave
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  Speaker 4: myself the chance to do something creative in those other
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  Speaker 4: parts and not be.
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  Speaker 2: Held back by what I had before.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and that whole process within just within me was
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  Speaker 4: very critical part of accomplishing the text that I had,
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  Speaker 4: which was make something better than what I had before,
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  Speaker 4: infinitely better, not just a little bit, infinitely better than
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  Speaker 4: what I had before. Yeah, I had myself that launching pad,
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  Speaker 4: and if you don't give yourself you launching bad, your
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  Speaker 4: rocketing is going to go off.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 1: And Also it's also a big part of like when
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  Speaker 1: you're in a studio and having someone else produce your work.
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  Speaker 1: It's handing over that that control to someone else and
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  Speaker 1: trusting that they're going to develop you.
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  Speaker 3: And we call them turd polishes. They make this sound.
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  Speaker 1: Fabulous, it's like, but yeah, it is. It's relinquishing that
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  Speaker 1: or allowing you know, which the way you want to
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  Speaker 1: see it, someone else to come in and enhance that.
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  Speaker 1: And you know it's yeah, I mean it depends on
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  Speaker 1: you know, coming to it when you've developed what you
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  Speaker 1: have or you know for yourself and it's.
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  Speaker 3: Something that you're proud of and you know is good and.
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  Speaker 1: You want it to work, or you know, instance like itself,
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  Speaker 1: IE's like, I've got no idea what I'm doing, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna trust someone else. And and so yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's coming to it like that, to have to hand
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  Speaker 1: hand over and step back.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's hard to do, but it's when you can't.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's probably what causes those books that you're
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  Speaker 1: not getting better.
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  Speaker 3: It's not you know, enhancing for sure.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, so your other music so previously is it
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  Speaker 1: something different that you've done before?
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: You know, the Quarantine. You'll be around for a little
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: while as an artist.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we we the band's been around since twenty eleven. Yeah,
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: and we had a record, well two records previous to this,
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: Antiquate Hate and our self titled EP, and both well,
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: the Antiquate Hate one was produced by George G.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Want Archie, who was on He's a multi Grammy.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: Winning multi or the Grammy winning producer and engineer and
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: he he was the original engineer on.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Death Row Records.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: It's incredible, So it's it's like he's amazing stories, but.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: It's his knowledge of how to.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: Put record together and to deliver a larger than life
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: sound in rock and rap is unparalleled. And that record
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: still that, that record still is. You know, there's still
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: some legs in it, believe it or not. And I've
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: got some plans to, you know, do some fun things
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: with it after a version of normalcy, so.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Like a re release or you maybe a different editional.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I'm looking at at a few different options
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: and there's some really fun options on the team. I
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: can't really say what they are right now, but yes,
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: I can say that I.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Guess collaboration maybe down the line that.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: Would be there yeah, there's some fun things. There's a
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: lot of fun things. Yeah, so you know, but that's that's,
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Off in the future a little bit.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: But for this, for you know, are we've been doing punk,
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: metal and grunge for a good long time now, solid twelve,
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: well fourteen years now. Yeah, we've had a relatively similar
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: you know kind of message, and that message is be.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Free in your mind.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not it's very easy.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: To get locked into the propaganda of the time, the
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: the pressuring forces, invisible pressuring forces, peer pressure type forces
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: that gets you to believe really really ridiculous things. And
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: in America it's I don't know exactly I like to
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: think this and you can probably can otherwise of this,
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: but I like to think that Australia is smarter than
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: the United States.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: In what sense, like.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: Well, let me say that you guys don't have as
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: much like obvious propaganda that we do.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well I'm very laid back, and I guess
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: it's that, you know, kind of that lack of patriotism
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: to a sense is also kind of it relieves us
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: from you know, that full propaganda and you know, political
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: social stuff that just really consumes the every day US citizen, which.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Should be a challenge.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: That sounds like a bally beach and a fucking my
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: tie in my hand right now when you to lift
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: yourself of all the hatred of the partisan oh my,
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: oh my god.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: I couldn't imagine. Honestly, it's time, you know, really.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean like before it was you know, every day,
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: but it was something stupid and innocuous. Now it's like
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: the very founding of everything, the very founding of every
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: concept you ever had of America, is now just being eroded.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: And it's it's like concerning doesn't even do it just
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: it was concerning six years ago. Now it's like off
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: the fucking rails. And I don't really know how to
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: deal with that, you know, in what to say in public,
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: and I know every artist is struggling with it. But
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: the thing that my music has been doing since has
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: been saying, watch the fuck out for fascism there, you're
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: right there, you need to stop and look at what
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: is going on with you like that's and that's been
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: the whole point and purpose of we saw that.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I screaming this, but yeah, I am. It's terrifying, Like
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: what happens in the sights at the moment, like your society.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Is just it's.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: It's almost likely you speechless just to think the most
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: outrageous things happening. And then the level of accountability people
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: want to put on other individuals. It's such a critical
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: without looking within pefore that looking without and pointing fingers
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: and it's just.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: On your own ship people like, you know, it is
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: what it is.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's there's there's so many different little you know, yeah,
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: little issue. But that is very much a very appropriate
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: and good generalization on the feeling of you know, looking
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: at all of this go on, and no matter how much.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: You you agree with it or disagree with.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: It, you have to admit that the process that we
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: have in Americas not working to communicate people about issues
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: that mean a lot to us.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and even though they mean a.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: Lot to us, you still have to be speaking with
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: at least a little bit of eloquence and a little
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: bit of grace to the person who you're talking to.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that seems to have been lost in translation with
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: you guys. Well, it's it's like so far gone, like
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: you know, we're still here, like you know, being mindful
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: of everyone's you know, position, and like you know, don't
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: say anything out you know, don't speak out about it's
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: just that mindfulness. And I guess it's from an outsider
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: looking in where the states are at the moment, it's
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: they it's like they can only be one you know,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: one answer or one truth or one right without acknowledging
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: that there's many, many parties and positions people have. It's
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: okay to have more than one truth or perception or
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: position and to not you know, attack and destroy some
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: just because they don't agree with your point of view.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: It's terrifying, like to think.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: That that's you know, they're they're demonizing themselves and this
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: citizen warfare of like you know mindset, it's it's crazy,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: it's so it really it really makes you wonder where
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: it's setting it and why can't they just stick be
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: accepting of multiple ideas and that are you know, publicly
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: acceptable and socially okay, you know, the hatred of one
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: because you don't believe in this and that. I just
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: it's a foreign concept, you know for me, how you
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: know people can exist like that, And it's just exhausting,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Like it's a lot of energy to like, you know,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: people put in hate and shade on someone that's really
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: you know, how is that affecting or sounds like a
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: new problem? None of them problem, it's yeah, And I
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: guess as an artist through that would be it would
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: be tough, like you know, especially if you're you know,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: the controversial or the deliberately provoking type of artists they
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: get out there and you know, we just come with
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: the back and did a live review of the Dead
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Kennedy for example, you know, the political you know that
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: it's you know, how would that sit, you know in
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: today's society.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: If that were you know, artist soul.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Were coming out and doing that, they just they wouldn't
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: get a shot, like they would't even get that just
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: be literally shut down and taking off canceled straight away.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I I do. There's a part of
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: me that really wants to test that theory. Part of
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: me wants to be like, you know what, I'm gonna
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: do naz off the first time that I get up
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: national talent.
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: There's a there's a there's a part of me that
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: goes yeah.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: So especially nowadays.
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, And I have always, you know, as my
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: artist voice has always been in the punk, metal and
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: grunge side of things that trying to to you know,
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: it's in the the it's in the way of everything
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: that you're talking about.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: It's in the way of when people only want to
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: think one particular way about one group of about all
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: groups of.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: And that's how grungs that sort of come about because
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: it wasn't like the mainstream the.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Rest of it.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: It was you know, that underground stuff that then became
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: popular culture. And it's yeah, and I guess essentially as well,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: it's that giving that voice to the to the minority.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: It's absolutely and that that is one of the fun
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: things that I think in talking with rap fans is
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: that I consider rap and punk to be as as
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: far as the message.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I agree.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: So like a real rap like yeah, like if you
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: listen to most staff like most staff and rock him
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: uh Eric b like they are, there's so's there's so
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: many trucky like it's not just Zach Deal Relka, not
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: just the politically driven you know rappers, but they're all
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: speaking in a in a way that's it's supposed to
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: be controversial, it's supposed to be standing up to something,
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: it's supposed to be fighting a battle somewhere.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: Really fringes from the edges.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like I'm I'm dealing with something and if it's
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: a thing in society, then man, fuck that thing. And
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to deal with this thing that Yeah, yeah,
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: that is the same fucking concept as punk. That's the
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: exact same time. I've found that that putting them all together.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: I hope that you know, music genre nerds don't get
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: all you know, twisted out about it, like they all.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: They all believe something to think about.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah sure, And.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: And I hoped if if this project hurts the brain
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: in that way, then I'm very.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Happy because I'm awful.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Drunge and people wrap as like and to enjoy the
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: two together like because I just I think I'm waved
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: with the like them just so far entered the spectrum,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: but they're not really. And we've had like a couple
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: of Aussie like hip hop artists who've just recreated ed
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: covers of you know, some about best grunge like artists
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: and turn them into like this, the hybrid like punk
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: rock down hip hop was listen, that's I actually did
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: that he grin splitting and then they did the Rubens
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: and they slapp They're great songs and it's and it's
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: a it's appreciation of like each other's style, and.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: It's it's good.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: And you know, the.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Altoman like the Chili Peppers they sort of like brought
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: that about, didn't they with their punk funk and you
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: know they're almost that rap style. And then that you
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: came into artists like twenty eight Days and whatnot where
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: it become more of a thing, and it's yeah to
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: see that coming back. Hopefully we'll see more of it
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: coming back. It's definitely just got a place and it's
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: got you know, listenership that that more more more of
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: that stuff.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I absolutely know. It's been a.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: Great journey to go and find as many of those
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: people as possible. And I'm hoping that I can you know,
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: work my way into a bit, you know, to try
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: and and bridge bridge those guests, because I think even
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: music nowadays has become you know, kind of contrarian, Like
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: I think I think I know that, you know, like well,
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: the Lady Gaga and Metallica mix at the Grammys, see
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: it's brilliant.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was fantastic.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: I thought it was great, Like it didn't even matter
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: that the that the microphone went out, and I know
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: Ted Field is super pissed about it, but he really
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: shouldn't reason because that that do the mixing of them
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: and their vocals, that her higher pop vocals and his
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: lower rumble but perfect, it's perfect.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: So just that alone to demonstrate that was well worth it.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, and I'm all for that.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Like the two of the most you know, extreme ends
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: of like music joining together that are you know, absolutely
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: amazing in their own rights. I love that shit, I
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: absolutely love it, and I think there needs to be
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: more of that, And if that's the new the new trend, then.
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: I'm I'm off for I'm there, I'm front, and yeah,
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: I want to show us that our passions are way
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: more similar than they are.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're more the same than what we're different. Absolutely,
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: that's different ways of us expressing it.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in the diversity.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: Absolutely showing that in art nowadays can hopefully start to,
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: you know, at least give people an example of the
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: process that it takes to not be hating of everything
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: you don't know.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like, just have an open mind and an open
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: ears and just embrace it all. I really struggle that
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: people they lock themselves into particular genre. Yeah, you might
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: have like that's my jam and that's my thing. But
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: opening yourself up to new stuff, I mean that that's
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: where you get there as an artist. You know myself
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: as well. That's where you learn and and you get
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: you get all the good stuff, you get to experience
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: it all.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: I'm cutting myself off and nothing.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you know, it's easy to forget how you
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: get there once you've been there and enjoy And.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: I felt that And yeah, the thing about the about
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: my music is that it lays out that pathway at
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: least at least for me.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: It gives me signposts.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: On my Yeah, and a lot of the biggest artists,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: especially like you know you full on your rock and
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: you know, heavy metal. I mean a lot of them
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: come from a classically trained background, which is you know essential.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: It's is that core foundation that we all start somewhere
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: like guitar lessons and when we were kids or whatever
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: it may be. And and it's your music is the
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: universal language. It's the universal everything. Every note has been
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: played before. It's just that, you know, but how we
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: how we put it together and how we then present
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: that it's we're all speaking the same language. And I
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: think that does that does get lost in translation. I
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: think sometimes people forget for sure. Yeah, well it's been
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: great to chat to you again. So your albums out now,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: plans for a tour, what's the what's what's the future
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: look twenty twenty six and the end of twenty five
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: look like for the Quarantined.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Well, so the album, the album, the whole album is.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Not oh sorry you're.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yeah.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: We have a Trendsetter, which is maybe my favorite on
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: the record maybe honestly, it's it's close close time between
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: the next one. That's myself and I don't even know
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: how it did.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: It must be something up beat that I'm on them
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: that loves pretty Yeah.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: The other one Instagram Hell and that's that's the other
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: single that and that is very much in that punk
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: mindset straight up, like what the hell are you even doing?
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: I didn't get Instagram for a long time.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: And it's exactly what it sounds like. So that one's
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: going to be super fun. And that's and then after that,
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: we have an entire section of music videos that we're
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: going to release for all of a Version to Normalcy.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: We're gonna have a series of music videos that will
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: play like it's a short film, so.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: They're all meant to go yeah, yeah, I get that.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Hell story, you know, all the way through.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: So we're working on that right now, and that's we
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: have a plan to release that into twenty twenty six.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Along with a radio campaign and.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: You know, then a music video for Instagram how and
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: all of that into twenty twenty six. So there's a
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: whole lot going of content that we've got to release
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: and and and release and promote until we are going
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: to start talking about tours for twenty Yeah.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, because you've got like eighty one thousand bullow
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: it's on a Spotify, don't you know.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: It's you know, you've got the numbers.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: It's yeah, yeah, it's gone up.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: I mean honestly, we started in June of this year
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: with three That's wild.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: That's It's wild.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: I never expected that it would have this kind of
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: a bigger response and bigger results. And I can't I
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: can't wait to put this music in front of you know,
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: the fans and the Bible and really show our you know,
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: be able to give give them a true gift of
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: sharing it back and sharing those feelings back and forth.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: I can't wait to do that. Tour on live.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: It's going to be fantastic, but there is so many
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: hoops that we have to jump over just to that
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: spot and we've we've got people working on it, but
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: I'm hoping that we can get it to her, especially
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: I want to come to Australia, like, yeah, absolutely, the
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: culture and everything a lot like.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: You You're definitely been in. You'll be like, I'm so
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: not doing that. You're like just like just I'm too
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: tired and all blah, I'm not doing that. Man.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: We're very relaxed, you know. Yeah, And I sid I.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Live in a beautiful part of Australia as well, in
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: the East Coast and no far from Barron Bay, and
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: it's I have everything in my fingertips.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: And in the best part of the world. I know this,
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: Like I'm cool, I'm I'm happy in my fator. It's
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: I feel very blessed.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: But yeah, no, down Under, we we yeah, well we
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: let anyone in.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: Nod that's a controversial right here at the moment. It
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: gives got into the politics.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: But yeah, no, we love our our US visitors down
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: here and bring their music into it for sure.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: And we've got to graub We're still live music. It's
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: it's it's still a lot going on.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: It's it's far from being open and done with, and
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: it's kind of nice to see the new stuff come about.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and and you know being.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: The thing I love too is like all the awesome
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: bands when I was a bit younger, they're all re
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: touring again now. So I'm just like my rust is
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: ball and it's just like every weekend I was like,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: it's dry, I'm reliving myne we spent youths again.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: It's been great.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I mean, especially the Creed you know, there's.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Coming back out. So I was seeing those when I
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: was like eighteen, and they're really good. I don't know
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: what to be doing and now and then, but.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: I'm like keen to see them again to sort of
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: trip back down memory lane.
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, it was. It was fun to see
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: them performing. I mean, I really love Mark Tremonti. His
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: guitar work is is just so iconic in a way.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: There's nobody else who really sounds like yeah, so great
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: to see him going and doing you know, at least,
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: you know, more stuff because I love hearing him play.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they they're good and they've got some of
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: that stuff is like the old news. Old stuff is
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: sound nothing like the new stuff.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: And I like that.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: It's it just doesn't sound like the same minus and
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: that that growth and that ability to expand you sound
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: is it's always good post He's he's one of that's
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: really good at doing that. Like, no two posting songs
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: sounds like the other and didn't listening to the same artists.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's good and that's sound absolutely good way
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: to when you listenership for sure. But yeah, so it
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: sounds like.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: You're gonna be busy, so I think after that you
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: might have a have to have a bit of a
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: nap before you come down under.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: It's a bit of a playing sleep on the way over.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: That's what I say when I'm dead.