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FULL SHOW: 25th anniversary of 9-11. Osama bin Laden's life. · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: Mark Simone on 710WOR.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I hate this day every year. Looking back, reliving
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  Speaker 2: that horrible, awful nightmare that day. But it's the 25th
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  Speaker 2: anniversary of the ceremony taking place at the World Trade
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  Speaker 2: Center right now. It'll take place also at the Pentagon, Shanksville, Pennsylvania.
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  Speaker 2: It's the 25th anniversary. Pearl Harbor, they still do it
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  Speaker 2: every year. It's 85 years later. On December 7th this year,
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  Speaker 2: they'll have a full ceremony. It's a big thing in Hawaii,
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  Speaker 2: all over television. Officials even from Japan come to be
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  Speaker 2: at it with apologies. But it's 85 years later at
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  Speaker 2: Pearl Harbor. They still do it every year. This will
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  Speaker 2: be the first year, by the way, that there's not
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  Speaker 2: a single survivor left. Well, the World Trade Center... 25
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  Speaker 2: years later, we look back on it throughout the morning.
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  Speaker 2: We'll have a lot of people that covered it that
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  Speaker 2: were there. I'll never forget that day, that morning. A
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  Speaker 2: lot of people on the radio, you know, television, of course,
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  Speaker 2: covering it, but a lot of people on the radio
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  Speaker 2: that stayed on for hours and hours and hours covering it.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk to some of them. I was at the
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  Speaker 2: other place at the time. Curtis was over there doing
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  Speaker 2: the morning show. We had a great newsman, George Weber.
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  Speaker 2: And as soon as it happened, George Weber, great newsman,
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  Speaker 2: grabbed his recorder. We didn't have iPhones then. It was
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  Speaker 2: 25 years ago. It was kind of a big, he
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  Speaker 2: had cell phones, just basic cell phones. But he grabbed
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  Speaker 2: a recorder and a microphone and he went down there
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  Speaker 2: to cover it. And then we never heard from him again.
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  Speaker 2: He never called in. So it turned out the cell
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  Speaker 2: towers were all down. And he couldn't get a signal,
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  Speaker 2: but we didn't know what happened to him. It was
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  Speaker 2: hours and hours before we found out he was okay.
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  Speaker 2: You know, that was another thing that happened with the
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  Speaker 2: trade center going down. Everything got knocked out underground there.
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  Speaker 2: All the cell service, all the cable service, everything. That
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  Speaker 2: all had to be repaired overnight. It was an amazing
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  Speaker 2: 24 hours. Just the gloomiest time in New York. Everybody frightened.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't know what was coming next. The first tower
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  Speaker 2: was hit everybody assumed it was an airplane accident a
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  Speaker 2: pilot went out of control the second plane hit we
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  Speaker 2: knew it wasn't an accident that it was deliberate there
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  Speaker 2: was a moment where the first tower fell and it
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  Speaker 2: was gone and then I remember I remember I was
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  Speaker 2: watching NBC at the time I forget who the anchor
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  Speaker 2: was maybe it was Brian Williams and they showed it
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  Speaker 2: and they said from now on there will only be
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  Speaker 2: one tower not knowing that a half hour later, the
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  Speaker 2: other tower would fall. Warner Wolf, we'll talk to him
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  Speaker 2: later in the show. He was covering it live. He
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  Speaker 2: was on with Imus. Warner lived right now, right near
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  Speaker 2: the World Trade Center. He could watch it from his window.
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  Speaker 2: He was the one talking about the tower going down. Warner?
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  Speaker 3: It's gone.
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  Speaker 4: What?
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  Speaker 3: It's gone.
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  Speaker 2: What's gone?
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  Speaker 5: The tower. It's gone.
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  Speaker 3: It's gone.
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  Speaker 6: It collapsed.
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  Speaker 5: It's gone.
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  Speaker 3: It's not there.
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  Speaker 2: The whole tower.
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  Speaker 3: The whole tower. It's gone.
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  Speaker 5: There's only one tower.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, God. This is horrible. It's gone.
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  Speaker 5: It's not there. It's like it disappeared.
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  Speaker 7: It just collapsed.
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  Speaker 2: Now, there was an architect that in 1965, that's when
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  Speaker 2: it started, the project. In 1965, he designed the World
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  Speaker 2: Trade Center towers. And he made them strong enough to
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  Speaker 2: withstand a plane crash. And the reason he did that
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  Speaker 2: is a plane had once hit the Empire State Building
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  Speaker 2: in the 40s. So he made sure these towers could
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  Speaker 2: withstand a plane crash. But it was 1965. There were
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  Speaker 2: no 747s then. The biggest plane was a 727. So
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  Speaker 2: he calculated how much fuel was on that plane and
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  Speaker 2: how much it could burn or explode, and he based
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  Speaker 2: it on that. He didn't know that in the next
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  Speaker 2: couple of decades there would be much bigger planes with
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  Speaker 2: much more fuel And it was enough to burn and
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  Speaker 2: melt down the whole tower. Now, the good thing is
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  Speaker 2: when he designed the World Trade Center towers, there's different
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  Speaker 2: ways of architecture. You could build it so the building
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  Speaker 2: would topple over, or you could build it in a
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  Speaker 2: certain way that would make it, instead of toppling, what
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  Speaker 2: they call pancake. It would come straight down. And luckily,
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  Speaker 2: he chose that method of architecture because had it toppled,
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  Speaker 2: It would have gone for many, many, many blocks and
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  Speaker 2: taken out lots of other buildings. But instead, it pancaked down.
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  Speaker 2: And I had a friend who was a demolition expert.
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  Speaker 2: They brought him in right afterwards to figure out the cleanup.
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  Speaker 2: And he said when he got there, walking through, they
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  Speaker 2: call it rubble. It was basically just dirt and dust.
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  Speaker 2: And he said, where's the glass? Where's the pieces of metal?
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  Speaker 2: He said, I've never seen one of these where there isn't.
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  Speaker 2: pieces of metal, pieces of glass. He said it was
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  Speaker 2: 100 stories of offices. There should be typewriters here. There
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  Speaker 2: should be metal all over the place. And there wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: That's how strong that fire was. It just melted everything down.
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  Speaker 2: Back then, there were big, huge, heavy metal typewriters. Everything
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  Speaker 2: was just melted into dust, into powder. That's why identifying
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  Speaker 2: bodies and all of that was impossible. It had to
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  Speaker 2: be done through, you'd have to find a speck of
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  Speaker 2: dust that had some DNA in it. There were almost
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  Speaker 2: 3,000 people killed. They've identified, I think, about 1,900 of them.
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  Speaker 2: But they got like another 900 to go that haven't
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  Speaker 2: been identified yet. There's a part of the city medical lab.
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  Speaker 2: That's all they do in there, this handful of guys.
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  Speaker 2: They go through every particle, every piece of dust, looking
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  Speaker 2: for DNA, trying to identify who perished there. And they
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  Speaker 2: still got about 800, 900 to go. And they swear
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  Speaker 2: they'll never give up. Every so often, they find a
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  Speaker 2: piece of DNA and they're able to identify one more person.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be a slow process. It's going to
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  Speaker 2: take a lot of years to get this done. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the time after that, after 9-11, I was doing shows
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  Speaker 2: every day on 9-11, interviewing people. And I remember interviewing
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  Speaker 2: everybody involved. There was Vice President Cheney. I remember interviewing him.
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  Speaker 2: He was in the White House. President Bush, you'll remember,
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  Speaker 2: was in Florida doing a little speech to some kids
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  Speaker 2: in a classroom. Cheney was in the White House. The
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  Speaker 2: plane hit. They came in and they told him he
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  Speaker 2: should be moved to a bunker, a secure bunker. He said, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to stay up here. He didn't want to
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  Speaker 2: go underground yet. And every time something happened, the Secret
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  Speaker 2: Service would come back in and say, I think we
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  Speaker 2: should move you to the bunker. And he said, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to stay here. I'm going to stay here.
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  Speaker 2: And this happened a bunch of times. Then he told
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  Speaker 2: me One time, about 15 of them came in and
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  Speaker 2: just grabbed him. They didn't say a word. They just
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  Speaker 2: grabbed him and took him. And he said his feet
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  Speaker 2: were dangling. They weren't even touching the ground. They rushed
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  Speaker 2: him to the bunker. That's when the second plane hit.
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  Speaker 2: I asked him what the scariest thing was that day. Now,
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  Speaker 2: you might not remember this, but there were a lot
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  Speaker 2: of planes up in the air. Two planes hit the
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  Speaker 2: World Trade Center. A plane hit the Pentagon. There was
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  Speaker 2: another plane that was brought down in Shanksville, Pennsylvania. So
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  Speaker 2: that's four planes. They didn't know How many other planes
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  Speaker 2: were going to be like that? How many other planes
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  Speaker 2: were targeting buildings? So they ordered every plane out of
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  Speaker 2: the sky. They ordered every pilot to land immediately, every
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  Speaker 2: pilot to land at the closest airport. And that started
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  Speaker 2: happening over about a half hour. And they were worried
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  Speaker 2: there was another plane up there that was going to attack.
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  Speaker 2: So Cheney said the scariest moment, he got on the
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  Speaker 2: phone with the FAA director. His name was Peñas. And
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  Speaker 2: he said, are they all out of the sky? He goes,
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  Speaker 2: we got some that are pilots aren't responding. We got
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  Speaker 2: a few that aren't responding. And Cheney said the scariest
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  Speaker 2: moment was he said, well, how many, how many are
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  Speaker 2: not responding? And Pena said, 1200, 1200 up there that
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  Speaker 2: they couldn't get to land. Eventually I got them all down.
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  Speaker 2: And that was the final attack. I remember also interviewing,
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  Speaker 2: here's the other problem, my problem we had, we have, uh,
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  Speaker 2: all kinds of, uh, air force and, uh, fighter pilots
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  Speaker 2: and fighter jets and they're patrolling all over the world.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't have any patrolling in the homeland. We didn't
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  Speaker 2: have any patrolling here. We never figured on an attack here.
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  Speaker 2: So they had to quickly scramble some pilots and some jets.
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  Speaker 2: They got a couple up in the air, fighter jets
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  Speaker 2: with pilots equipped with bombs and all of that. But
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  Speaker 2: the one they got up in Washington, wasn't armed. It
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  Speaker 2: didn't have any missiles. It didn't have anything on it.
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  Speaker 2: It was just pilots up in the air. So that
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  Speaker 2: Shanksville plane was coming. They could see the path. They
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  Speaker 2: looked like it was coming for the White House. So
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  Speaker 2: the pilot was told to stop the plane that was coming.
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  Speaker 2: And he said, if you have to, you got to
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  Speaker 2: have to just hit it with your plane and just
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  Speaker 2: take it out that way. This pilot would have killed
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  Speaker 2: himself in the process. Eventually, they got another plane up
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  Speaker 2: there that could fire on that plane. It was an
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  Speaker 2: American Airlines plane that looked like it was headed to
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  Speaker 2: the White House, and they ordered that pilot to shoot
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  Speaker 2: it down when it got to a certain point. It
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  Speaker 2: was an American Airlines plane. Turned out this National Guard
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  Speaker 2: pilot up there was also in real life an American
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  Speaker 2: Airlines pilot. He would have to shoot down one of
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  Speaker 2: his co-workers. And he asked them, he said, could I
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  Speaker 2: just hit the wing? Could I disable it? And he said, no,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to have to shoot it down. It was
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  Speaker 2: a frightening thought. Now, luckily, the plane was brought down
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  Speaker 2: before it got anywhere near the White House, so they
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  Speaker 2: never had to shoot it out of the sky. But
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  Speaker 2: it was an incredible day. It just went on this
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  Speaker 2: nightmare all day long. Sean Hannity, the day before, September 10th, 2001,
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  Speaker 2: had just begun a new national radio show, which of
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  Speaker 2: course is on here every day, three to six. It's
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  Speaker 2: the most listened to radio show in America. He had
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  Speaker 2: just begun the show. First day was September 10th, 2001.
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  Speaker 2: So the second day of his big new national show,
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  Speaker 2: It's 9-11. Manhattan was closed. Remember, they closed all the bridges,
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  Speaker 2: all the tunnels. You couldn't get into the city. Sean
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  Speaker 2: lived out in Long Island. So he had to find
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  Speaker 2: a studio out in Long Island, do the show from there.
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  Speaker 2: And Curtis was on all morning and kept going. John
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  Speaker 2: Gambling was on. We were all at the other station
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  Speaker 2: back then. They told me, go to sleep. I said,
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  Speaker 2: go to sleep? Yeah. These guys are going to need
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  Speaker 2: reinforcements in seven or eight hours. So I went to
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  Speaker 2: sleep for a few hours because, sure enough, it turned
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  Speaker 2: out I went on the air at 10 o'clock that night.
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  Speaker 2: And by then, every radio station in America decided to
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  Speaker 2: take us, to take our programming because they weren't really
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  Speaker 2: equipped to cover New York City and 9-11. So we
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  Speaker 2: became national for the entire night. I went on about 10,
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  Speaker 2: stayed on until about 7 in the morning. And it
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  Speaker 2: was quite a night. Rudy Giuliani... somehow got out of
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  Speaker 2: the World Trade Center area, found a command center. His
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  Speaker 2: actual command center was destroyed. It was near ground zero,
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  Speaker 2: but he found another command center to operate out of,
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  Speaker 2: and he was going to speak. I said, well, let's
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  Speaker 2: take that speech. It turned out it was amazing. He
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  Speaker 2: was like Churchill, reassuring the nation, calming everybody down. It
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  Speaker 2: was amazing. So he made one of those briefings every
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  Speaker 2: half hour we took it. every half hour throughout the night.
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  Speaker 2: And that's where Rudy really became America's mayor. Everybody was up.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody went to sleep that night. They were all listening
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  Speaker 2: to him. It was a frightening night. And you remember
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  Speaker 2: the days after 9-11, actually the weeks and the months
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  Speaker 2: after 9-11, you were afraid to come into Manhattan. You
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  Speaker 2: were afraid to walk by any landmark. It was the
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  Speaker 2: Empire State Building. Everything could have been a target. You
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  Speaker 2: were afraid when you were on the bridge or the tunnels. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: I was also on New York one at the time
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  Speaker 2: and we started to do a daily show every day.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was at noon. We do an hour
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  Speaker 2: show where, uh, we'd reassure people. We had every expert on, uh,
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  Speaker 2: to talk about things. And, uh, we had grief counselors on, but, uh,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I would ask them everything about what to worry.
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  Speaker 2: You know, people were worried about being in the tunnel.
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  Speaker 2: We were worried about more terrorist attacks, blowing up the tunnel, uh,
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  Speaker 2: One thing we learned from the experts, you're a little
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  Speaker 2: safer on a bridge. They can't really blow up a bridge.
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  Speaker 2: If you're in a tunnel and you set off a
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  Speaker 2: huge explosive, you'll shatter the whole tunnel. If you do
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  Speaker 2: it on the bridge, it'll just go up into the air. Maybe,
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  Speaker 2: maybe it might take out the concrete on the bridge,
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  Speaker 2: but everybody was afraid to go anywhere. It was just frightening.
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  Speaker 2: You remember, as soon as it was that night, police
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  Speaker 2: from all over the country came to New York to
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  Speaker 2: help out. And remember, in New York City, in the
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  Speaker 2: coming weeks, there'd be military vehicles all over, in every corner,
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  Speaker 2: every intersection. There'd be some kind of military, a jeep,
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  Speaker 2: a tank, something there. And then there'd be these police
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  Speaker 2: cars from all over the place, from Albany, from Georgia,
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  Speaker 2: from Pennsylvania. All these cops came in to help out
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  Speaker 2: in New York. It was a frightening time. It was maybe,
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  Speaker 2: maybe nine, ten months before people felt safe walking around.
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  Speaker 2: It just never stopped. So today's the ceremony at, uh,
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  Speaker 2: the world trade center ground zero. I think it was
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  Speaker 2: Greg Kelly that first gave it the name ground zero.
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  Speaker 2: He was, he was on New York one. He was
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  Speaker 2: just a reporter at the time. And he was the
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  Speaker 2: first one to broadcast from there alive. And he was
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  Speaker 2: a military guy. So he said ground zero. And then
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  Speaker 2: everybody at New York one started saying ground zero. And
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  Speaker 2: then that became the phrase ground zero. So today, uh,
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  Speaker 2: A very, very solemn ceremony. There's always been six moments
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  Speaker 2: of silence. They've added a seventh moment of silence, and
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  Speaker 2: that'll be for those lost there, the victims. And a
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  Speaker 2: little controversy. Mayor Mamdani will be there. I'm watching all
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  Speaker 2: the screens. We don't see him yet. It's a very, uh, big, uh, ceremony,
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  Speaker 2: a big problem. Security wise, you got a lot of
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  Speaker 2: ex presidents there. In fact, all the living ex presidents
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  Speaker 2: are there. Bill Clinton, uh, George W. Bush, Barack Obama,
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  Speaker 2: Joe Biden. I guess he's still a living president, right? Barely,
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  Speaker 2: but he's a living president. And then you've got a
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  Speaker 2: mom Donnie there. A lot of controversy over that. And, uh,
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  Speaker 2: Kathy Hochul is supposed to be there. A little controversy there.
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  Speaker 2: The Port Authority Police Union asked her not to come.
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  Speaker 2: There's some people that have some grievances with her about
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  Speaker 2: all this stuff. But also September 11th, that day, it
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  Speaker 2: was Tuesday. It was a bright, sunny day. It was
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  Speaker 2: primary day. It was primary election day. Candidates like Mark
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  Speaker 2: Green were running for mayor. It was the primary election. And,
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  Speaker 2: of course, it never happened that day. It had to
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  Speaker 2: be canceled. Now, the day before was September 10th. It
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  Speaker 2: was a Monday. And all of us doing talk radio
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  Speaker 2: on September 10th. The biggest story that we were all
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  Speaker 2: focused on was a congressman named Gary Condent. Gary Condent
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  Speaker 2: was a good-looking young congressman. And it turned out he
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  Speaker 2: was having an affair with a young intern. Was her
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  Speaker 2: name Chandra Levy? Something like that, I think. He was
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  Speaker 2: having an affair with this young, good-looking intern. Well, the young,
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  Speaker 2: good-looking intern turned up dead in a field not far
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  Speaker 2: from Condit's house. So everybody thought he had killed her. Now,
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  Speaker 2: it turned out later this wasn't the case, but this
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  Speaker 2: is all everybody was talking about on talk radio. And
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  Speaker 2: this guy, no matter how hard he tried to prove
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  Speaker 2: his innocence, he couldn't get it to stop. It was
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  Speaker 2: front-page news. It was the topic of every talk show
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  Speaker 2: night and day. September 11th happened. It wasn't mentioned again
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  Speaker 2: for about a year. So it changed everything. But that
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  Speaker 2: was the topic the day before. And then the next day,
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  Speaker 2: September 11th, we knew what we'd be talking about 24-7
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  Speaker 2: for many, many, many months. Hey, we'll take a break.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk to some of the people that covered it live.
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  Speaker 2: We'll take some calls next if you want to talk
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  Speaker 2: about what you went through that day.
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  Speaker 5: 800-321-0710.
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  Speaker 2: Mark Simone here on the 25th anniversary of 9-11.
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  Speaker 8: The Mark Simone Show on 710WOR.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's the 25th anniversary of September 11th, 2001. We'll
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  Speaker 2: talk to some of the people that covered it that morning.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk to Scott Shannon a little later this hour.
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  Speaker 2: He was on the air for many, many, many hours.
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  Speaker 2: The morning guys were all on live, so they had
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  Speaker 2: to cover it as it unfolded. Let's take some calls.
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  Speaker 2: Let's just see what, because people have a lot to
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  Speaker 2: say about what they went through that day. Let's go
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  Speaker 2: to Mike in Florida. Mike, how are you doing?
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  Speaker 9: Good morning, Mark.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Mike.
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  Speaker 9: I remember that day being a Manhattanite, getting the vibe
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  Speaker 9: from other people like my father and brother in Queens
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  Speaker 9: that Manhattanites were a little bit more of a target group.
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  Speaker 9: And there was a certain element of paranoia following the
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  Speaker 9: last few days. A few days afterwards, I remember getting
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  Speaker 9: on the train at some point, the subway, and I'm
• 18:23
  Speaker 9: sitting in the car and a bunch of guys came
• 18:25
  Speaker 9: in wearing traditional Middle Eastern garb. And I was like,
• 18:29
  Speaker 9: oh my God, what is this?
• 18:31
  Speaker 10: And then I remember walking down in Chelsea one morning
• 18:35
  Speaker 10: and over my shoulder comes this loud roar of a
• 18:38
  Speaker 10: jet plane. And it couldn't have been, you know, it
• 18:41
  Speaker 10: felt like it was like right behind me.
• 18:43
  Speaker 9: And that freaked me out. It was an Air Force
• 18:45
  Speaker 9: jet patrolling the area because they were still patrolling things.
• 18:48
  Speaker 9: And it was such an odd feeling of sort of
• 18:51
  Speaker 9: like quiet and paranoia and camaraderie, all sort of all
• 18:56
  Speaker 9: mixed together among the populace.
• 18:58
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: All right, Mike, good call. Yeah, they banned all air
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: traffic from over New York City, but there were fighter
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: jets everywhere. patrolling over new york city flying constantly all
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: over the place and occasionally helicopters police helicopters that sort
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: of stuff hey the other good thing is uh it
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: came out of that we uh didn't have the police
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: department was great but it basically just patrolled the streets
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: and that was it uh we didn't have a big
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: intelligence capability around the world but we suddenly uh over
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: the next year or two got one and you can
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: thank ray kelly for that he uh Realized we couldn't
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: depend on the federal government or the FBI or anybody
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: for a warning. We had to have our own intelligence.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: He created a massive infrastructure for that where he placed
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: detectives all over the world in hotspots to be the forewarners.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: to learn of anything, any threat, anywhere. We still have
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: that today thanks to him. So all over the world,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: we've got detectives. We've got people there. We've got people
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: that speak different languages that work with other intelligences of
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: people around the world. Just strictly for the NYPD, get
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: us the information directly and first. Also, and this was controversial,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: you had to start putting people at, you know, in certain,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: there were some very controversial mosques and other places. You
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: had to infiltrate them with people that spoke the language
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: just to learn if anything was happening. And that started,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: the NYPD continues to do that stuff to this day.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Let's go to Tom in Connecticut. Tom, how you doing?
• 20:35
  Speaker 11: Hi, yeah, Matt.
• 20:36
  Speaker 12: Good morning. Just a couple of remembrances. I'm a retired
• 20:42
  Speaker 12: air traffic controller. And there was a flight, a scheduled flight,
• 20:48
  Speaker 12: out of Bradley, which is Happett, going to Florida. And
• 20:55
  Speaker 12: one of the planes that hit the World Trade Center
• 20:58
  Speaker 12: almost had a meteor collision with him.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: And.
• 21:03
  Speaker 12: The air traffic controllers in New York were scrambling, but
• 21:07
  Speaker 12: they pointed out the plane flying down the Hudson River
• 21:13
  Speaker 12: wasn't controlled.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a renegade plane. That's a good point. Well, thanks, Tom.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: It was a bright, sunny day that day. That's the
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: reason the attack was able to happen. Had it been
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: a cloudy day or the weather had been bad, they
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: would have waited. These guys obviously weren't trained pilots. So
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: what they did was they used the Hudson River, starting
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: around Albany, and they knew the Hudson River went right
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: to the World Trade Center. So they looked down and
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: just followed the Hudson River all the way in, needing
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: a bright sunny day to do that. Also, it was
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: a tremendous intelligence failure. Federal government. It happened under the
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Clinton administration when he put in Oh, that awful CIA director.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: What was his name? I think it was Deutsch. This
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: was some woke CIA director who decided we didn't need
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: to use informants. He cut all that off. He said,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: we have satellite pictures. We can see everything on the ground.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: We don't ever need to use any informants again. So
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: he cut all that off. Had we been using informants,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: we might have been able to learn something ahead of time. Also,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: There was this wall that had been put up. The
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: CIA and the FBI were not allowed to talk to
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: each other. So the terrorists like Mohammed Atta in Germany,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: other places, CIA is looking at this guy knowing he's
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: probably a terrorist. He comes to the U.S. and the
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: FBI is watching this guy and he's taking flying lessons.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: But the instructor later said he took Lessons in how
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: to fly the plane. He didn't want any lessons in
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: how to land the plane, which is a little suspicious.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: But had the CIA been able to talk to the
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: FBI and put two and two together, everything might have
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: been different. They might have figured this out ahead of time.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: But that was later corrected. You have the 9-11 Commission
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: who discovered all of that and corrected it and put
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: things back the way they should be. Hey, let's take
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: a break for all the latest news. When we come back,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: we'll talk to the legendary Scott Shannon. He was on
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: that morning. It all unfolded while his show was on.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: He covered it all live. It was quite a day
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: for him. We'll talk to him next, and we'll talk
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: to Warner Wolf, who was quite a part of that story,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: covering it live, and a whole lot more coming up.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: It's Mark Simone here, 9 to noon every day, 710WOR.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: On 710WOR, this is The Mark Simone Show. Well, it's
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: the 25th anniversary of 9-11. On the air that morning
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: and every morning back then was Scott Shannon, the radio legend.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Of course, he was on WPLJ back then. He's on
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: the line with us now. Scott Shannon, how are you?
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Good morning, Mark.
• 24:11
  Speaker 11: What a day, huh? 25th anniversary. You know, this is
• 24:17
  Speaker 11: the first time that I've ever... gone public and talked
• 24:23
  Speaker 11: about our experience on that day.
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: You were the big morning show in New York, WPLJ
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: every morning, six to 10. And, uh, I'm sure like
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: we do, you had TV screens on in the studio watching.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: So how did you first learn of it?
• 24:39
  Speaker 11: Uh, just like what you said, the TV screens, it was,
• 24:43
  Speaker 11: it's kind of funny too, because not funny, but, I've
• 24:47
  Speaker 11: never listened back to one minute of that show we did.
• 24:52
  Speaker 11: We were on the air 15 straight hours.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 24:56
  Speaker 11: 15 hours. Got there at 6 a.m.
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: In the morning.
• 25:00
  Speaker 11: We left right after 9 o'clock that night.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 25:05
  Speaker 11: Five, I'll say one, two, three, four people in the studio. Myself,
• 25:11
  Speaker 11: my partner Todd Pettengill, Patty Steele, and our producer, a
• 25:16
  Speaker 11: fellow named Joe part of Vila, they called him the
• 25:19
  Speaker 11: monkey boy. Any of our listeners know who the monkey
• 25:22
  Speaker 11: boy was. And we also had, um, TV weatherman, Bill Evans,
• 25:27
  Speaker 11: but he was not in the studio. It was a
• 25:30
  Speaker 11: channel seven that morning. So it was, uh, obviously it
• 25:36
  Speaker 11: was funny too, because, uh, I remember Todd had been
• 25:41
  Speaker 11: out late that night. Um, uh, so, Sunday night, he
• 25:47
  Speaker 11: went to the Jackson's reunion concert at Madison Square Garden.
• 25:51
  Speaker 11: He took his daughter, I believe, and he got about,
• 25:57
  Speaker 11: I guess, four or five hours sleep. When you don't
• 26:01
  Speaker 11: live in the city, it's difficult to go to sleep
• 26:04
  Speaker 11: in the city in a hotel because there's so much
• 26:07
  Speaker 11: noise and the horns honking and sirens and all that.
• 26:10
  Speaker 11: So he could not wait to get to 10 o'clock
• 26:14
  Speaker 11: so he could go home And unbeknownst to him at
• 26:19
  Speaker 11: that time, he didn't get to go home at all,
• 26:22
  Speaker 11: but we worked till nine. Wow.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we were, back in those days, it was WPLJ
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: and WABC. They were the same place. You were at
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: one end of the floor. We were at the other
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: end of the floor. And it was quite a traumatic
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: day there. And you played music, of course. Did you
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: stop playing music at some point? Oh, we didn't.
• 26:43
  Speaker 11: We probably played one song an hour, maybe two at
• 26:49
  Speaker 11: the most, or a bathroom break or something. But it
• 26:53
  Speaker 11: was always something like Ray Charles doing America the Beautiful, or,
• 26:59
  Speaker 11: of course, any of the songs that were fit for
• 27:04
  Speaker 11: airplay at that particular time. We had TVs on, just
• 27:08
  Speaker 11: like you did, and And you looked and you saw
• 27:14
  Speaker 11: the plane was.
• 27:18
  Speaker 12: 945, 946.
• 27:20
  Speaker 11: And you look there and you go, what the hell
• 27:23
  Speaker 11: is that? Like you said earlier, it's a beautiful day.
• 27:27
  Speaker 11: It was just a gorgeous day.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we didn't know where the story would go.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: You remember that... As soon as it happened, they set
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: up a lot of doctors on the west side and piers.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: They put hundreds of doctors ready to treat the victims.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: And it turned out there weren't... Yeah, but there were
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: no victims. Yeah, nobody came.
• 27:48
  Speaker 11: I mean, there were no victims that came to the hospital.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:53
  Speaker 11: I said 946. It was 846 when it happened originally.
• 27:54
  Speaker 11: And later on, that's... it was just so sad to watch.
• 28:06
  Speaker 11: It was almost like watching a movie and you think
• 28:09
  Speaker 11: you're going to wake up and the movie's over, but
• 28:12
  Speaker 11: it wasn't over. You know, the one thing we did
• 28:16
  Speaker 11: different from a lot of the other states, a lot
• 28:18
  Speaker 11: of people weren't prepared for like a horrible event like this.
• 28:24
  Speaker 11: And we did something just a little bit different. We
• 28:27
  Speaker 11: opened the phone lines to anybody who wanted to call in.
• 28:32
  Speaker 11: And there was great news coverage. But like you said before,
• 28:37
  Speaker 11: it was so many different situations going on. Nobody had
• 28:41
  Speaker 11: any clue what the hell was unfolding before our very eyes.
• 28:47
  Speaker 11: A beautiful day like that and a plane runs into
• 28:50
  Speaker 11: the World Trade Center. That's a movie.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
• 28:58
  Speaker 11: Well, I remember... People were calling in initially just describing
• 29:06
  Speaker 11: how they felt and the things that they were worried about.
• 29:11
  Speaker 11: I had a friend of mine, a fellow that worked
• 29:13
  Speaker 11: at Columbia Records with Bruce Springsteen and Mariah Carey, who
• 29:19
  Speaker 11: was vice president of promotion, a guy named Charlie Walk.
• 29:22
  Speaker 11: And he lives right near the towers. He could look
• 29:30
  Speaker 11: out at his, he called me from his balcony and
• 29:34
  Speaker 11: he was saying, I can't believe what I'm watching. They're
• 29:37
  Speaker 11: breaking the windows out. and throwing things out of the windows,
• 29:43
  Speaker 11: you know, 100 floors up. And it looked like, you know,
• 29:46
  Speaker 11: maybe it was, I guess they thought it was computers
• 29:49
  Speaker 11: or anything, just a break. And then all of a
• 29:51
  Speaker 11: sudden he stopped for a second, and we had him
• 29:54
  Speaker 11: on the air. And he goes, oh, my God, those
• 29:58
  Speaker 11: aren't things. Those are people jumping out of the windows.
• 30:03
  Speaker 11: And that was the first time that we had heard
• 30:07
  Speaker 11: or even thought about people that were in that building
• 30:12
  Speaker 11: that didn't want to burn to death and they chose
• 30:16
  Speaker 11: their own way to go. Oh, it was just so emotional.
• 30:21
  Speaker 11: And then as the day went on, we started getting
• 30:24
  Speaker 11: calls from.
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: Wives and.
• 30:28
  Speaker 11: And kids who had parents there and they wanted to know,
• 30:33
  Speaker 11: they just wanted to go on the air and announce that,
• 30:36
  Speaker 11: you know, if, if you know my dad or if
• 30:39
  Speaker 11: you know my husband, you know, like Sherry or the
• 30:44
  Speaker 11: names and they would tell me what floor they were
• 30:47
  Speaker 11: working on. And by that time we pretty much knew
• 30:51
  Speaker 11: what floors were.
• 30:54
  Speaker 8: Below the, the.
• 30:56
  Speaker 11: Plane and the, and the, jet fuel and the fire
• 30:59
  Speaker 11: and the smoke and all that. These people were just
• 31:04
  Speaker 11: so desperate to know that their loved one was still alive.
• 31:09
  Speaker 11: It could have been mothers and fathers and kids who
• 31:13
  Speaker 11: worked there. I saw our Secretary of Commerce, Howard Ludnick,
• 31:21
  Speaker 11: on TV this morning. He had two floors of employees
• 31:27
  Speaker 11: and he, he wasn't there. He had to take his, uh,
• 31:32
  Speaker 11: daughter to kindergarten.
• 31:33
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 31:34
  Speaker 11: And he was on the way back. Anyway, he lost
• 31:37
  Speaker 11: 658 people and other, you know, several other companies were
• 31:43
  Speaker 11: wiped out that day. Uh, and I'll never, uh, one
• 31:47
  Speaker 11: of the things that, uh, I want to tell you
• 31:50
  Speaker 11: when I, when we all walk out and Todd and
• 31:53
  Speaker 11: Patty and, And the monkey, but when we walked out
• 31:57
  Speaker 11: for the first time, because the building was evacuated other
• 32:03
  Speaker 11: than WABC and us, we're the only people in the
• 32:05
  Speaker 11: damn building because they were afraid. So at nine 15,
• 32:11
  Speaker 11: when we walked out at a hotel across the street,
• 32:14
  Speaker 11: I walked out there and I looked up at the
• 32:17
  Speaker 11: sky and you, you can't, there's no planes.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: And there was no traffic. I remember that. Nothing.
• 32:28
  Speaker 11: There were no planes, no taxis. And when I stepped
• 32:31
  Speaker 11: off the curb, I felt something, and I had ashes
• 32:37
  Speaker 11: up to my ankles. So that's how close. And you
• 32:42
  Speaker 11: could smell the jet fuel in the air. Yeah. But
• 32:48
  Speaker 11: the most terrible thing was talking to people who were
• 32:51
  Speaker 11: so desperate to find out how their loved one was.
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Hey, we only got about a minute left. What did
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: you do the next day and the day after? It
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: was a long time before you went back to normal, right? Programming-wise.
• 33:04
  Speaker 12: Right.
• 33:05
  Speaker 11: Well, you know, one of the most powerful things that
• 33:10
  Speaker 11: I can remember was, other than see, we would get
• 33:14
  Speaker 11: calls from people that were coming in from other places
• 33:18
  Speaker 11: and in a van or a car SUV. They just want,
• 33:22
  Speaker 11: they just drove there. And remember they had a, a
• 33:26
  Speaker 11: parking lot across from the, uh, what you call it,
• 33:29
  Speaker 11: the world, not the, uh, you know, the Jacob Javits center.
• 33:33
  Speaker 11: Remember they set up parking places where these people that
• 33:37
  Speaker 11: are coming from all over the country, they just want
• 33:40
  Speaker 11: to help. I want to do whatever they can do.
• 33:43
  Speaker 11: They brought supplies and everything. And the other image that
• 33:46
  Speaker 11: was burnt in my mind, was the first day I
• 33:49
  Speaker 11: drove back to work, uh, going down the West side highway.
• 33:55
  Speaker 11: Remember when they had the, the, they were working on something,
• 33:59
  Speaker 11: you know, where the ships.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Are and all that.
• 34:01
  Speaker 11: And, but they had a big fence up over there.
• 34:04
  Speaker 11: And on that fence was pictures.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 34:09
  Speaker 11: All these people who never came home. Wow. Oh my God.
• 34:15
  Speaker 11: You just, you just break out in tears. It was just,
• 34:18
  Speaker 11: So sad to see.
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Well, Scott Shannon, thanks for everything. We'll have you back
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: under normal circumstances next time, but thanks for the great call. Thanks.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Take care.
• 34:30
  Speaker 11: Thank you, Mark.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Scott Shannon, he runs the True Oldies Channel. You can
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: listen to that. Just go to trueoldieschannel.com. We'll talk to
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: more people throughout the morning, and we've got a lot
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: to get to on the 25th anniversary of of 9-11,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: right here on 710WOR.
• 34:49
  Speaker 8: From the WOR Life Vac Studios, this is the Mark
• 34:53
  Speaker 8: Simone Show.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Well, hey, it's going to be 80 degrees, mostly sunny today,
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: and then tomorrow it'll be about 80 degrees. Looks like
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: no rain today, no rain tomorrow. There might be some
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: rain very, very late tomorrow night, and then early Sunday morning,
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: 80 again on Sunday. So it should be a pretty
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: good weekend. A lot more to talk about when it
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: comes to the 25th anniversary of nine 11. And we'll
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: do that in the next hour. It's Mark Simone here.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Nine to noon, three hours, nine to noon every day.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Now on seven, 10 W O R.
• 35:29
  Speaker 8: On seven, 10 W O R the Mark Simone show.
• 35:33
  Speaker 14: Well, it's the 25th anniversary of nine 11.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: As we look back on it this morning. Now, uh,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: At the World Trade Center now, you've got all the
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: living presidents. You've got Bill Clinton. You've got George W. Bush.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: You've got Barack Obama. You've got Joe Biden there. They're
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: counting him as a living president. He's sort of living.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: And you've got Rudy Giuliani there. Rudy Giuliani is there.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: And Mayor Mamdani is there. There was a moment earlier
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: where Mamdani and Rudy shook hands. You'll see the video later.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Rudy Giuliani shaking hands with Mom Donnie. Now, Rudy was
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: one of those people saying Mom Donnie should not come,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: should not be there. So far, he's there without incident.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: As I say, Giuliani, pretty cordial, shook his hand. So
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: it's an interesting story of the World Trade Center back then.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: 25 years ago, a guy named Larry Silverstein, big real
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: estate developer in Manhattan, Still going strong to this day.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: He was 70 25 years ago. He's 95 now. Still
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: works every day. Goes to work every day. He's building, building, building.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: But back then, he was a big real estate developer
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: back then. He was 70 years old. And it was
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: August of 2001. And he bought the World Trade Center.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: He bought the Twin Towers.
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: $ 3 billion.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Somehow he borrowed the billions of dollars and he bought
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: the Twin Towers. Seven weeks later was 9-11. He just
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: bought them, and seven weeks later, 9-11. His lifetime achievement
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: buying the World Trade Center suddenly became a nightmare. Well,
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: he's 95 today. It's 25 years later. As I say,
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: he's still working, still going strong, goes to the office
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: every day. His office is at Seven World Trade Center,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: which is the first tower that they rebuilt. You know,
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: when the towers came down, Silverstein had just bought them.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: This is an incredible nightmare. He doesn't know what to do.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: The insurance companies refused to pay the insurance. And nobody
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: knew what to do when the towers were knocked down.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Nobody had any idea what to do with the site
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: once it was cleaned up. And by the way, the
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: cleanup of that site is an amazing achievement for government.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: You know, usually it takes government years to do simple
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: things that the private sector could do in a couple
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: of months. You've seen when the government tries to build
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: a building, it takes years. When it's private sector, building
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: goes up in six months. So the fact that they
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: got the cleanup done so quickly was an amazing thing,
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: an amazing thing. But they got it done. But then
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: the question is, what do you do on this site now?
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: And it was Donald Trump back then who kept saying,
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: and Donald Trump had been to the site. Right after 9-11,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: he was there. He was on the ground. He's a builder.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: He was offering to help, offering his people to do
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: whatever you needed. But he kept saying, just build it
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: back exactly the way it was. Just to show the terrorists,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: you can't do that to us. We'll put it back exactly.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: He actually said, get the original blueprints. They were all
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: on file. Get the original blueprints, the original plans, and
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: build it back exactly the way it was. But the
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: idea was to build something new, and Silverstein had to
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: do it. But as I said, the insurance companies wouldn't
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: pay the claim. It was such a bizarre, strange thing
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: that happened. Nobody had ever anticipated anything like that happening.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: So it wasn't in the insurance policy. And it took
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: the government. It took, I think, Eliot Spitzer was the
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: attorney general at the time. Oh, no, actually, he was.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: he had become governor. After Pataki left, Eliot Spitzer became governor,
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: and Silverstein still couldn't get the insurance companies to pay
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: the money for the World Trade Center. He couldn't rebuild
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: until he got the money. So it was then-Governor Eliot
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Spitzer who had to go after the insurance companies. He
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: threatened to bar them from ever doing business in New
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: York if they didn't pay up and pay the claims
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: for Silverstein. So eventually they paid it and they were
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: able to start building it back. And as you saw,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: they built one World Trade Center, then they built three
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: and four. These buildings all slowly but surely got put back.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: There's only one building left and they're working on that now.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: It's the final building. And it just started construction. It's
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: going to take about a year or so, but they'll
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: get it up and that'll be the final building. But
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: here's the thing that everybody forgets. When they decided, Silverstein
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: decided he would build back on the site, he would
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: put a new World Trade Center there. You remember right
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: after the attacks, as things started to calm down, they
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: did calm down a bit, but everybody kept saying the
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: same thing. Everybody said nobody will ever live downtown ever again.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: You heard that all the time. Nobody will ever live
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: downtown again. You know, the other thing you heard, nobody
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: will ever live on top of a big glass skyscraper.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Nobody will ever live on the top of a skyscraper
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: ever again. Well, two things happened after that. Downtown became
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: the hottest residential area in New York, hotter than it
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: had ever been. And if you look out that window
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: over there, the billionaire's row, there's a whole bunch of
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: hundred-story skyscrapers with $ 300 million penthouses at the top of them.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: And they're all sold. So both those predictions were false.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: But the problem was when Silverstein got the money, it
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: was going to build back. It was still too scary
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: back then. Who would ever go into the World Trade Center, again,
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: knowing terrorists might come after it? It was a real problem.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: And you know who the hero was, the hero company?
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: American Express. They were the first ones. American Express stepped up,
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: took a huge, huge lease. They agreed to serve as
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: the anchor tenant for the new building. And that gave
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Silverstein a guarantee he needed to get his financing. So
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: he obviously got the financing. And, you know, the land
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: belonged to the Port Authority. And they were able to
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: do some stuff as long as the buildings were gone
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: for a couple of years and the whole thing was
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: a big empty lot, actually a hole at the time.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: They were able to go in there and rebuild the
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: subways and put in new subway stations and fix everything
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: under there. But it was a long time before they
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: were able to get that going. But Silverstein still goes
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: to work every day. And he's just started construction on
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: the final building. And a year from now, the whole
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: thing will be complete. Absolutely finished. Rudy Giuliani is there.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Of course, he was the big hero of the day.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: And give a lot of credit to George Pataki, who
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: helped lead things. And there was Tom Von Essen, great guy.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: He's still active. Tom Von Essen was the fire commissioner,
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: one of our very best. And Bernie Carrick was the
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: police commissioner at the time. Actually, I'm going to a
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: dinner tonight, a big 9-11 gala with George Pataki and others.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: And it'll be quite an event tonight, 25 years later.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: George W. Bush is down there. Of course, he was
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: president at the time. There were all these reports. Remember,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: he was speaking to school kids in the Florida classroom
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: when the attack happened, and then they shuttled him out
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: of there, grabbed him, put him on Air Force One.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: There were these reports. Why was he flying all over
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: the place? Remember, he flew here, he flew there. They
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: tried to make it look like something was chaotic or
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: he was a coward. Actually, it was all very logical.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: In an attack like that, when the country is under attack,
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: The plan is separate the president and the vice president.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: The president goes to the situation room, the command center
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: in the White House, and the vice president is supposed
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: to go to Nebraska, where they have an exact duplicate
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: of the White House situation room and command center. And
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: it's from those command centers that you can control everything,
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: our military, our weapons, our nuclear weapons. So that's the plan.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: President in the White House command center. vice president in
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: the Nebraska command center, which is deep underground. So when
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: the attack happened, Cheney was already in the command center
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: at the White House and the Secret Service decided it
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: didn't make sense to move both of them because they
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: didn't know what was going on. They didn't know what
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: was under attack. They did know that there had been
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: threats against Air Force One. It turned out later they
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: were not real, but they didn't want to move Cheney
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: and Bush. So they decided Bush would go to Nebraska. Now,
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: this is the part they kept quiet. Air Force One
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: is supposed to be fully equipped with fuel, with food,
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: enough stuff to be able to stay in the air
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: for weeks. When they went to this classroom in Florida,
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: it was just a quick trip. It was going to
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: be like a five-hour trip. They got lazy that day.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: They didn't bother to equip the plane with everything. They
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: didn't stock it up. So he had to go to
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Nebraska to the command center, but the plane wasn't fully stocked.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: So that's why they had to land at that first base.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: barksdale louisiana which was a place where they could stock
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: up the plane and i've talked to reporters who were
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: there everybody looked out the window they didn't know why
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: they were landing at this base in barksdale louisiana but
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: they sat on the runway for a couple hours and
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: all they saw were trucks just coming up to the
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: plane and the trucks would load like hundreds of loaves
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: of bread hundreds of containers of food hundreds of gallons
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: of milk fuel trucks kept coming so they had the
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: plane then prepared the way it should be. So if
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: it had to, Air Force One could stay in the
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: air for weeks on end. But then they got to Nebraska,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: to that base, and reporters looked out and they saw,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: instead of a car picking up Bush, it was a very, very,
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: very armored military vehicle that he got into. And it
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: took him to a place where he went down an
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: elevator shaft into the ground. And that's when he was
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: in the command center. He then, at some point, I
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: think it was late in the day, very late that day,
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: demanded to come back to the White House. But it
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: was a scary day. Nobody took their eyes off television
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: or if they were out listening to the radio that
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: day and keeping track of this. But, you know, it's interesting.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: President Trump is worried about classrooms. You know, our universities
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: became crazy indoctrination centers. And that's where you get this
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: new generation of crazy left-wing socialists nuts that'll vote for
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: a guy like Mamdani. The colleges, the universities, even the
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: high schools, filled with these woke, kooky, left-wing teachers indoctrinating kids.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: And one of the problems is how they teach 9-11.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: It's a big problem. A lot of these classrooms the
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: kids are taught that might have been our fault and
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: the terrorists had a legitimate grievance. That kind of stuff
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: is actually slipping into college classrooms from these crazy professors.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: You know, this is the way guys like Mamdani feel,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: and this is the way his father is one of
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: these professors. So the Trump administration now issuing guidance on
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: how teaching 9-11 should be taught. Linda McMahon, education secretary,
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: calling on American schools to educate the kids with moral
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: clarity about 9-11 and the significance for the nation's history.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: She's asking educators to teach the real stories of of
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: great heroism and courage that day. You know, you think
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: about that Shanksville flight. The plane had been hijacked. They
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: knew some of them had cell phones or portable radios.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: They knew what was going on at the World Trade Center.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: They knew what was going on with the plane, that
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: these hijackers were actually terrorists. They were going to crash
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: the plane into the White House. So those passengers, they
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: knew they had to kill themselves. But they did it.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: They went and grabbed the terrorists. They just outnumbered the
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: terrorists and crashed the plane so it never got to Washington, D.C.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: That kind of heroism that took place on that day.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: You know, one of our great hospital systems, Northwell, huge
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: hospital systems, now reporting that there's been a huge explosion
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: in 9-11 cancer just over the last two or three years.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: For many people, it was a slow motion kind of thing.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: A lot of people, of course, got all kinds of
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: illness from 9-11. But Northwell is saying there's been an
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: explosion of it in the last couple of years. It
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: took 25 years to show up in some people. But, hey,
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: we've got a lot of people to talk to about 9-11,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: about that day. The day began early today.
• 48:40
  Speaker 6: St.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Patrick's Cathedral had a memorial service, special service. The ex-presidents
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: were all there, Clinton, Obama, Bush. Mamdani was there, the president.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: He's not the cardinal yet, but the new archbishop, Ronald Hicks,
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: invited Mamdani. Hicks, of course, a very left-wing guy. Probably
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: a Mamdani supporter, but a nice ceremony this morning. Hey,
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: we'll take some calls next.
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: 800-321-0710.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: A lot of people have memories of that day.
• 49:10
  Speaker 11: 800-321-0710.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Mark Simone here on the 24th. 25th anniversary of 9-11.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: It's a very, very, very sad day.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: I hate this day every year, looking back and remembering.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: But You need to do it. Let's take some calls
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: because people have a lot of memories and a lot
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: of thoughts on 9-11. Let's go to Jennifer in New York. Jennifer,
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: how are you doing?
• 49:50
  Speaker 15: Hey, good morning. Nice to speak with you. I've been
• 49:53
  Speaker 15: listening to you for years. I'm a Rush Limbaugh baby,
• 49:56
  Speaker 15: Bob Grant, mom and dad, big influence, Brooklyn born and raised.
• 50:01
  Speaker 15: I'm on my way to a memorial as we speak
• 50:04
  Speaker 15: in Washingtonville, New York, where a large community of retired
• 50:08
  Speaker 15: and active firemen and police reside, and a large number
• 50:12
  Speaker 15: were killed on 9-11 from FD. That day is something
• 50:17
  Speaker 15: that strikes a chord in my heart, makes me cry
• 50:22
  Speaker 15: when I talk about it, but that day made me
• 50:25
  Speaker 15: become a first responder and become a New York City
• 50:27
  Speaker 15: police detective to this day.
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 50:30
  Speaker 15: Followed my father's footsteps as a first responder, retired FD.
• 50:35
  Speaker 15: That day, I was on my way to college at
• 50:38
  Speaker 15: SUNY Purchase, and I just crossed the Tappan Zee going
• 50:42
  Speaker 15: to school, thinking I was going to be a teacher.
• 50:44
  Speaker 15: God help us. Thank God I made the right choice
• 50:48
  Speaker 15: today to see what's going on in the teaching world
• 50:51
  Speaker 15: as we speak. Students not knowing about 9-11 hurts my soul.
• 50:57
  Speaker 15: But that day, driving home in this communal days of
• 51:02
  Speaker 15: people horrified and frightened together driving up the New York
• 51:05
  Speaker 15: City roadways and New York State Thruway to get back home.
• 51:10
  Speaker 15: I remember seeing the convoy from West Point coming down
• 51:15
  Speaker 15: the New York State Thruway and my heart leapt out
• 51:18
  Speaker 15: and I knew in that moment I needed to change
• 51:21
  Speaker 15: my life trajectory and I wanted to help. The only
• 51:24
  Speaker 15: way I knew how was to become a first responder.
• 51:28
  Speaker 15: that they inspired me the loss of those yeah well
• 51:32
  Speaker 15: jennifer sorry to get emotional oh i understand but jennifer
• 51:35
  Speaker 15: i want people to have that passion that care and
• 51:38
  Speaker 15: not forget the morris smiths the the peter fronds the
• 51:43
  Speaker 15: responders killed in that day i want kids to know
• 51:46
  Speaker 15: about them and not be dismissed by the defund the
• 51:50
  Speaker 15: police and the the rioters and the poison that's out
• 51:53
  Speaker 15: there where it people's minds are being raked and implanted
• 51:57
  Speaker 15: with false ideas and to understand the true tragedy but
• 52:04
  Speaker 15: beauty of 9-11 that it brought so many together in
• 52:07
  Speaker 15: such horror and I'm sorry to get emotional I'm very
• 52:11
  Speaker 15: passionate it's the Irish in me but um I've been
• 52:15
  Speaker 15: wanting to call and trying to get through to you
• 52:17
  Speaker 15: for a long time but you're a popular guy But
• 52:21
  Speaker 15: I'm so grateful to actually get through on this day.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Well, we're grateful you got through. Jennifer, best call of
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: the day, maybe of the year. And keep up the
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: good work. I think you should think about running for
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: mayor one day. You're a very articulate woman.
• 52:37
  Speaker 15: Thank you, and please give my best to all those
• 52:40
  Speaker 15: you may meet that lost loved ones on this day.
• 52:43
  Speaker 15: I'll always have them in my prayers. Thank you so
• 52:45
  Speaker 15: much for your time, and God bless America.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: Jennifer, very proud to have you in our audience. Call
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: us again. Take care. Let's go to Dr. Bob in
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: Long Island.
• 52:56
  Speaker 6: Dr.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Bob's a great surgeon. Dr. Bob, how are you?
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: I'm good, Mark.
• 53:00
  Speaker 16: Yeah, that was a great call that just preceded me,
• 53:03
  Speaker 16: and I called really just to honor Dr. Someone I
• 53:06
  Speaker 16: knew very well, she was really a sister to me,
• 53:10
  Speaker 16: Captain Kathy Mazza, who I knew as a cardiovascular scrub
• 53:14
  Speaker 16: nurse at LIJ and then St. Francis Hospital. Her husband
• 53:18
  Speaker 16: was a New York City policeman and detective, and she
• 53:22
  Speaker 16: decided to become a Port Authority policewoman. And for ten years,
• 53:28
  Speaker 16: for nine years, she worked in my office one day
• 53:30
  Speaker 16: a week just to see the patients that we had
• 53:31
  Speaker 16: operated on over the years, and she was a very
• 53:34
  Speaker 16: special person. nurse, but then she became a Port Authority
• 53:37
  Speaker 16: policewoman and then the first woman captain in the Port
• 53:40
  Speaker 16: Authority Police Department at the 10th year and was the
• 53:44
  Speaker 16: commandant at the police academy over in New Jersey on 9-11.
• 53:50
  Speaker 16: I often asked her, didn't she feel naked without a gun?
• 53:54
  Speaker 16: She always had a gun at her ankle. I didn't
• 53:57
  Speaker 16: realize it even in my office. On that day, she
• 54:00
  Speaker 16: came over with the new recruits from Jersey in a van, 9-11,
• 54:02
  Speaker 16: and went up into the buildings, into the South Tower,
• 54:08
  Speaker 16: and then brought down people into the lobby. And she
• 54:10
  Speaker 16: saw that the revolving glass doors weren't letting people through
• 54:14
  Speaker 16: fast enough. So she got people away from the door,
• 54:17
  Speaker 16: shut out the windows so people could stream out. And
• 54:20
  Speaker 16: she saved, really, countless lives just with that. She went
• 54:25
  Speaker 16: back up into the building, and they found her badge
• 54:27
  Speaker 16: and remains about a month later. And I called to
• 54:31
  Speaker 16: honor her. She was an exceptional person.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: And Say her name again.
• 54:36
  Speaker 16: Captain Kathy Mazza.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Kathy Mazza.
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 54:38
  Speaker 16: Deloach was her married last name, but that's an extremely
• 54:44
  Speaker 16: special person. Incredible.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: All right, Dr. Bob, great call. Thanks for calling. A
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: lot of heroes that day. Let's go to John in
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: Long Beach. John, how are you doing?
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: Fine good morning mark yes uh you were talking about
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: the world trade center uh earlier and uh i remember
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: there was a lawsuit or something they were trying to
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: determine whether it was one event or two events yeah
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: and uh i i thought that that was the big
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: issue not not whether somebody but i thought there was
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: coverage uh under the policy well you said there was
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: no yeah but i'm not sure yeah they.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: Just couldn't get the insurance companies to pay they just
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: couldn't pay the claim and then uh Governor Eliot Spitzer.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: Eliot Spitzer became governor, and he just finally had to
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: threaten the insurance companies that they would be banned from
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: doing business in New York if they didn't pay that claim.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: Let's go to Isaac in Rockland. Isaac, how are you doing?
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: Hi, Mark.
• 55:40
  Speaker 13: Long-time listener.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: Yes, Isaac.
• 55:42
  Speaker 13: Just remembering my experience. So I was actually right underneath
• 55:47
  Speaker 13: the building when the plane hit it. I worked in
• 55:49
  Speaker 13: the Mercantile Exchange Building in the World Financial Center.
• 55:53
  Speaker 8: Wow.
• 55:54
  Speaker 13: Um, when the second one, the first point hit, I
• 55:55
  Speaker 13: was still in the, in the train and I got
• 55:57
  Speaker 13: out of the train and I was walking up to
• 55:59
  Speaker 13: the building when the plane came from the other side,
• 56:02
  Speaker 13: go around down the block. And yeah, then, uh, we're
• 56:07
  Speaker 13: all sitting on the street. I was, you know, remember
• 56:09
  Speaker 13: where the old Sims Sims was over there.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 56:13
  Speaker 13: So you started running, even then people were, you started
• 56:19
  Speaker 13: running from the building. Well, when the plane hit it,
• 56:22
  Speaker 13: it looked like that famous picture of an explosion in
• 56:24
  Speaker 13: the building.
• 56:25
  Speaker 6: I was like by the foot of the building.
• 56:27
  Speaker 13: We all ran down the block just to get away
• 56:29
  Speaker 13: from it. Then we were just standing around. No one
• 56:32
  Speaker 13: knew what to do. We were just standing on the streets.
• 56:35
  Speaker 13: And when the building did come, when the first building
• 56:37
  Speaker 13: came down, we saw a big cloud of smoke. It
• 56:43
  Speaker 13: looked like smoke. It was dust and debris flying down
• 56:47
  Speaker 13: the streets. And then when it started running again, it
• 56:49
  Speaker 13: was like a panic.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:51
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: Well, great call, Isaac. Thanks for calling. Yeah, everybody remembers those.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Remember that video of the smoke, the cloud coming and
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: people running from that cloud? Let's go to Pat in Westchester. Pat,
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: what did you want to say?
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: Hey, Mark.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 57:05
  Speaker 14: I was on my way to the office, 9-11, and
• 57:08
  Speaker 14: I'm crossing Fifth Avenue right in front of Lord & Taylor.
• 57:11
  Speaker 14: Remember the old Lord & Taylor?
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, 38th.
• 57:14
  Speaker 14: And I look up, and I literally see the plane
• 57:17
  Speaker 14: in the sky. And I said to myself, gee, what
• 57:20
  Speaker 14: the hell is going on? I bet you there's a
• 57:21
  Speaker 14: problem at LaGuardia, and they're rerouting planes. Because I said,
• 57:25
  Speaker 14: you know, I was in that area crossing the street,
• 57:28
  Speaker 14: you know, right around midtown Manhattan. And I said, I'd
• 57:31
  Speaker 14: never seen a plane flying so low right over Fifth Avenue.
• 57:33
  Speaker 14: So literally, that was the plane that crashed into the
• 57:36
  Speaker 14: World Trade Center.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: All right. Pat, thanks for calling. A lot of memories
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: that day from a lot of people. We'll take some
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: more calls a little later on. Warner Wolf saw the
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: whole thing. He was looking out his window. He lived
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: way downtown with a view of the World Trade Center.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: He was live that morning with Imus. We'll talk to
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: him next. We'll talk to Warner next with some great stories.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: So don't go away. It's the 25th anniversary of 9-11.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: Mark Simone here on 710WOR.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: On 710WOR.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Mark Simone.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: The Mark Simone Show.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: Well, it's the 25th anniversary of September 11th. 25 years later,
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: it's hard to believe. That morning, Imus was on the air.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: Of course, Warner Wolf, big part of the Imus show,
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: but was not on that morning, but suddenly became a
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: big part of that show. And, of course, the legendary sportscaster,
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: the best TV sportscaster of all. And he's with us
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: right now. Warner Wolf, how are you?
• 58:38
  Speaker 17: All right.
• 58:39
  Speaker 7: Thank you very much, Mark.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:42
  Speaker 7: I wasn't on IMAS that morning because I only did Monday, Wednesday,
• 58:48
  Speaker 7: and Friday. And Sid Rosenberg did Tuesday and Thursday. So,
• 58:53
  Speaker 7: of course, this was a Tuesday.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But you lived downtown.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.
• 59:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we lived on North Moore Street.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: If you call that living.
• 59:06
  Speaker 7: That was a great neighborhood.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where John F. Kennedy Jr.
• 59:09
  Speaker 5: Lived.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: David Letterman that's right.
• 59:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah right across the street he lived yeah uh other
• 59:17
  Speaker 7: people Nathan Lane Richard Widmark De Niro uh yeah but
• 59:24
  Speaker 7: I don't I don't know that they were all there
• 59:26
  Speaker 7: on uh 9-11 anyway um You know, the thing is,
• 59:31
  Speaker 7: I just say it over and over again, when you
• 59:36
  Speaker 7: see a tragic event, you can see it in the movies,
• 59:41
  Speaker 7: you can see it later on television, when you see
• 59:44
  Speaker 7: it live, it just sticks in your head to this day. And,
• 59:54
  Speaker 7: you know, you say it's something you want to forget,
• 59:56
  Speaker 7: but you can't forget it, especially if you see it live.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 7: And the first inclination was my wife and I were
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 7: sleeping late that morning. It was about 945, 845.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 7: And this plane went right over. We lived on the
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 7: top floor. And this plane went so close to our roof.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 7: I said, what the heck? What is that? I mean,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 7: it was like a bug. A monster plane going to
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 7: land on your roof. And, of course, that was the
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 7: first plane. And then moments later, it hit the tower. And, gosh,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 7: we opened the blinds. Our blinds weren't open.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 11: We said, oh, look.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 7: He just made a hole in the tower. My first
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 7: thought was, in 1945... a poor bomber, a U.S. bomber,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 7: I think it was a B-52, hit the Empire State Building.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, by accident.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 7: Because there were fog.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 7: And he was misguided. I said, gee, that must be
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 7: the same case. But then you could see, oh, wait
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 7: a minute. And now, oh, my gosh.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 17: And I think.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 7: The worst sight was seeing people jumping out of the window.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 7: That was, oh, my gosh. That was just horrible.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: And then you called Imus. He was live on the
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: air at the time, right? Oh, yeah.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 11: I did.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 12: I did call.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: I think we have that. You want to hear it?
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is it. This is the Imus in the
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: Morning show that morning.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: MSNBC has just flashed on my screen.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: It looks like there is a.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: A plane has crashed into the World Trade Center? We
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: got Warner on the phone.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 13: He's looking at it right now.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: Warner?
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: Hi, man.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: What's the deal?
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: Something hit the World Trade Center. I think it was
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: a plane. I heard it right over my head, and
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: the explosion rocked the building.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 11: Really?
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: And I'm looking at it right now. The smoke is
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 5: just bellowing out of the World Trade Center. I mean,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: it's horrible.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 13: Wow.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: So... Yeah.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: Here's one more as you learn more. Sure you have
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: any other information, Mark, from anybody?
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 6: Not yet.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 8: We're waiting.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 13: Warner's got actually.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: The breaking news here.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: I think it was the plane. I heard it. I
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: heard the plane. I heard it. I said, my wife
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 5: was close. And that sounds awful low. And then, boom!
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so at that time, everybody still thought it was
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: an accident.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 7: And then.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 7: Then you realize, oh, my gosh.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 12: It wasn't.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: Were you looking out when you saw the building collapse?
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I went to the roof right after that, and
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 7: that was horrible. Saw them both collapse.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 15: My gosh, I think that.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, the first building collapsed, and I remember
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: I'm watching television in the Today show. He said, well,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: from now on, there'll just be one World Trade Center tower.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 8: Wow.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: But when it collapsed, listen to this. This is you.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: with Imus.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: Warner?
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: It's gone.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: What?
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: It's gone.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: What's gone?
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: The tower.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 5: It's gone.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: It's gone.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 5: It collapsed.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: It's gone. It's not there.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: The whole tower?
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: The whole tower. It's gone.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: There's only one tower.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, God.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 13: This is horrible.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: It's gone.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: It's not there. It disappeared. It just collapsed.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: Now, when that happens, that's when the smoke started coming, right?
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 7: The bellowing smoke, it was black. And you could see
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 7: the smoke was going into, at that time, New Jersey.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 7: And you could start to smell something. Wait a minute,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 7: this isn't right. And then later... We had a balcony
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 7: on this top floor. I'm talking about weeks later, you
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 7: could still smell this unusual odor. I always try to
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 7: describe it as a sweet and sour odor. It wasn't healthy.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 7: And they were telling us that it's nothing, but I
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 7: think everyone in the neighborhood knew, wait a minute, This
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 7: is not normal. And we knew something was wrong. You
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 7: were inhaling the burning material and pesticides. It just, it
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 7: was a terrible scene.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: But you continued to live there. You went back to
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: that area.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 7: We lived there four more years.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: Well, thank goodness you're okay. I mean, no offense.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 7: It's a good neighborhood. You could say it was never
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 7: the same, and I'm sure... Many people feel that way.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you remember after that, they said, nobody will
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: ever live downtown again. Nobody will ever come down here again.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: It became the hottest neighborhood in the world after that.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, a lot of famous people lived down there.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: So what made you finally move uptown, back to midtown?
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 7: You know what? My wife always had this... dream that
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 7: there was going to be a, you know, if there
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 7: was ever a flood down there, you would really be
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 7: wiped out. And she was afraid of that, so we did.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 7: We moved uptown.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: Well, she wasn't wrong. We saw that with Hurricane Sandy.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: A lot of it flooded.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 7: So, I'll tell you, you know, I'm thinking the similarities
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 7: between 9-11 and Pearl Harbor, December 7, 1941, both almost
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 7: 3,000 people killed. I'm sure 25 years after Pearl Harbor,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 7: which would have been 1966, people were saying the same thing.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 7: reminiscing like we are today.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: Well, actually, I checked on it this week, calling people
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: in Hawaii. Apparently, 85 years later, they still do it
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: every year. It's a big event every year.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 7: No kidding. Well, that's good.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 7: That's nice.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: And this will be the first year they'll do it
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: without a single survivor alive. Oh, my.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 7: Oh, all those people buried underneath it.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 7: It was the Arizona, I think.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: Well, Warner Wolf, great having you with us. Thanks for
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: the insight into that day.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 7: Thank you, Mark. I just hope that young kids think
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 7: about it. If a kid was only born after 2001,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 7: if he's 10 years old now, big deal.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: Hopefully....
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 7: They'll just keep it alive in the schools. And, you know,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 7: there's one other thing. I'll never forget, I saw a, man,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 7: one of the first transponders afterwards, and everybody was just
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 7: covered with smoke and dirt. And he said, you know,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 7: it's not only the people that were killed, He said
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 7: it's the ripple effect of 3,000 people killed, of families
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 7: and friends. And he was right. I mean, it just extends.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 7: I mean, 3,000 are dead, but it did extend. There
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 7: is a ripple effect still.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: Well, Warner Wolf, great talking to you. We'll have you
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: back under normal circumstances.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: Okay, Mark.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: Thanks for all the insight. Take care. The great Warner Wolf,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: Mark Simone here on the 25th anniversary of 9-11 on 710WOR.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 8: From the WOR LifeVac Studios, The Mark Simone Show.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: Well, it's 25 years later, 9-11, September 11, 2001. It's
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: 25 years later. There was also a great ceremony at
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: the Pentagon. It's still underway. President Trump spoke there a
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: little earlier this morning talking about the strength and spirit
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: of America, how it continues 25. 25 years later. Well,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of 9-11 stuff throughout the day. There'll
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: be a bunch of events tonight. I'm It's something we never, ever, ever,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: ever forget. As I said, in Pearl Harbor, it's 85
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: years later, and they still do this every December 7th. Otherwise,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: it'll be a nice day. It'll be 80 and sunny,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: and it'll be like that for a couple of days.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: Saturday night, late, very late. There'll be some rain. Sunday morning,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: some rain. But otherwise, weather-wise, a good weekend coming up.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: We'll be back. We've got one more hour to go
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: and a lot to get to right here in the
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: next hour. Mark Simone on 710WOR.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: Mark Simone on 710WOR.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: Well, it's the 25th anniversary of 9-11. We look back
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: on that terrible day. Rudy Giuliani is there at the ceremony.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: You got the ex-presidents. You got First Lady's Laura Bush.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton is there. Rudy is there. And Mayor Mamdani
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: was walking by. Stopped to shake hands with Rudy. Rudy Giuliani,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: very cordial, shook his hand. The picture, the video, going viral.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: Rudy was one of the people asking Mamdani not to come.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: The families had asked him not to come. He's behaved
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: himself at the ceremony. Again, very nicely shook Rudy Giuliani's hand,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: knowing it would be a picture that would go viral.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: So things went pretty smoothly down there. It was right
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: after the attack that morning, later in the day, if
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: you were watching the real highbrow shows, not the low-end shows,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: but the highbrow shows with all these serious guys from
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: the government, that you first heard the name Osama bin
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: Laden on a talk show. They started talking about it.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: Many of these intelligence guys said they knew right away
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: this was Osama bin Laden. And they then tried to
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: pin the whole thing on Bush for much of the
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: next couple of years, saying there was the August 6th
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: PDB warning him. Well, if you read the August 6th PDB,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: it was not warning about this sort of an attack.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: It was warning about terrorists attacking federal buildings. And it
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: says right in the PDB, 75 different FBI teams are
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: on this right now. So if you read that, you
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: would think everything is being handled. You've got to remember,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: Bush was brand new in office. He had just taken
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: office in January. This was September. And he didn't have
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: an FBI director until the week before, a couple weeks before.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: The Democrats in Congress held up the confirmation hearings. So
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: he just got an FBI director in place. Now, Condoleezza Rice,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: who is Bush's secretary of state, apparently today has apologized
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: to the families for not preventing this attack. But there's
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: not much really she could have done. Now, as far
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: as preventing the attack, there were two occasions in the
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: late 90s where Bill Clinton could have killed Osama bin
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: Laden and decided not to. A couple of famous incidents,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: one where they were watching him on drones, and they
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: had him in their sights, and the drone was armed
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: and could blow him up, and they asked for permission.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: This has all been documented, well-documented and written about, and
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: it was... Bill Clinton in the White House with some
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: of his cabinet, and they went around the table, and
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: Madeleine Albright said, you can't do that. I'm negotiating with
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: countries in the Middle East. This will screw up my negotiations.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: And the then Attorney General Janet Reno says, you can't
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: do that. It's not legal. There's no legal basis to
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: just kill this. So the whole cabinet, all left-wing Clinton
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: cabinet people, they talked him out of it. So they
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: let bin Laden go. There was another one of those
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: occasions where they let him go. Had they killed him
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: a year or two before, who knows how things might
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: have changed. But a lot of families still yelling today
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: about the Saudis and whatever their role might have been
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: in this. We'll never get to the bottom of that.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: But again, a lot of people, a lot of officials there.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: Rudy Giuliani. Also, usually every 9-11 that night, Rudy holds
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: a dinner for the people in his administration. You remember
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: Tom Von Essen, the great fire commissioner? one of our
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: greatest fire commissioners, and he was quite a figure that day.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: Bernard Carrick was no longer with us and all the
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: rest of the Giuliani administration. And it was an amazing
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: task overnight to get the city back together, just all
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: sorts of little technical things. When the bombs took out
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: the buildings and the ground and blew up the ground,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: it took out the cable, it took out the electricity,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: it took out the power lines, it took out all
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: kinds of stuff. that had to be repaired overnight somehow
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: they got it done so when you woke up the
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: next day you had electricity in lower Manhattan and you
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: had your phones and they had to arrange.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 11: For a.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: Lot of food had been destroyed like supermarkets everything they
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: had to get food to the workers to everything lots
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: of refrigerated trucks had to be gathered up and the
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: food had to be brought from New Jersey and then
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: a lot of restaurants great restaurant guys went down there
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: and set up kitchens. And you had to feed. There
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: were tens of thousands of people working down there, these
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: heroic workers. You had to feed them and take care
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: of them. And again, there was parts of the Giuliani
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: administration that just scrambled throughout the night to get everything
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: as close to normal as they could get the next day.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: They wanted to make sure the mail got delivered, all
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: of that stuff. You couldn't come into Manhattan as soon
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: as the attacks happened. They closed the bridges. They closed
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: the tunnels. It was a long time before they started
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: letting people back into Manhattan. And if you lived here
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: in the middle of Manhattan, on every corner, in the
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: middle of every street intersection, there were military vehicles, there
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: were troops, you know, like combat troops standing there. And
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: there were police from all over the country who all
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: sent cars and sent police to help out. So in
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: the street, you'd see police cars everywhere, not just New
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: York City, but there'd be Albany police cars, there'd be
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: Tennessee police cars, there'd be Texas police cars. They all
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: somehow got here and all tried to help out. The
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: city council is renaming streets. They've rolled out 26 new
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: 9-11 street and public place co-namings and urging the state
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: to do the same thing and make sure the 9-11
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: curriculum is taught properly in schools. So the city council
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: renaming a lot of streets all over the place. There's
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: a Never Forget Way now in Howard Beach, Queens. There's
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: an Eastside 9-11 Remembrance Way, Upper East Side. 9-11 Beacon
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: Memorial Way in Bay Ridge, New Jersey. They'll also recognize
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: nearby memorials. There's a Brooklyn 9-11 Wall of Remembrance in
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: Coney Island. There's the Tunnel to Towers 5K Run and
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: Walk 9-11 Memorial Way. in Red Hook. And great, great
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: to do that. Hey, just some other news. There are
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: other things in the news. The Gilgo Beach murderer, that
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: Rex Heuermann, that big Frankenstein-looking guy, you know, he's in prison.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: They sent him to Little Siberia. That's what they call it.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: It's actually the Clinton Correctional Facility, Dannemora. It's in the
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: most bleak, isolated, frigid, cold part of the Adirondack Mountains.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: It's up near the Canadian border. And that's where he's
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: been sitting in the locked up little Siberia. He's got
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: like three life sentences. He'll never get out. He'll be
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: there forever. But Rex Heumann was caught smuggling drugs into
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: the prison, drug possession, smuggling a package in. So they
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: said that he will now be disciplined. Now, if a
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: guy is in the worst prison in the world with
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: three life sentences and I don't know what the hell
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: you could do to discipline this guy. I guess it's
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: solitary or something, but it's quite a prison. 60, 6-0,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: 60-foot-high walls, 60 feet high, seven feet of thick concrete walls. Hey,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: Savannah Guthrie was on the Today Show, and there was
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: a moment that just stopped the whole show. Savannah Guthrie
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: was talking about they're going to go to a broadcast
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: from Ireland, and they were talking about Ireland And she
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: started talking about her mother. All of a sudden, she said,
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: my mother was Irish. You notice the word was. My
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: mother was Irish. It's the first time she ever publicly
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: talked about her mother not being with us anymore. So
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: it was Al Roker and, you know, everybody else. Craig Melvin.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: They all kind of froze for a second on the panel.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: Got very quiet there. But she said, my mother's family.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: My mother was Irish. Her grandmother was Irish. Quite a
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: moment there. So the ceremonies continue, the Pentagon, the World
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: Trade Center, and it'll go on throughout the day today. Very,
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: very sad day for everybody. We all look back and
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: everybody remembers where they were 25 years ago, uh what
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: they were doing at that the moment they've now added
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: uh there's six moments of silence when the first plane
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: hit when the first building came down when the second
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: plane hit the moments of silence for shanksville for the
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: pentagon they've added a seventh moment of silence now for
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: the victims uh Now, President Trump spoke in Pennsylvania. There's
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: a lot of fake news out there. The fake news
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: is just unbelievable. They just out and out lie about everything.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: There was the Republican Midterm Convention, and you saw these
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: stories about empty seats. There were empty seats there. Well,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: if you talk to everybody who was there, there were
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: no empty seats. In fact, there were about 2,000 people
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: in line that couldn't get in because the seats were full.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: But there's that picture where there's a section of empty seats. Well,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: zoom in on the picture. Zoom in on it. Make
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: it really big and zoom in. You'll notice. Look at
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: the stage. Look at the podium. There's nobody up there.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: There's nothing going on. The picture was taken way before
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: anything started. The convention hadn't even begun yet. You could
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: always do that. They used to do that at Trump rallies.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: They'd take a picture three hours before the rally. People
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: would get to the rally 12 hours early. But they
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: take a picture three hours before it started showing empty seats. Again,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: just total fake news. It happened with today's 9-11 ceremonies.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: The president said maybe he'll go to the World Trade
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: Center and be there for this. And then he decided
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: he would go to the Pentagon instead. So Maggie Haberman,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: New York Times, Maggie Haberman is always caught with her
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: fake news. She's the one that made up the whole
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: fake story. that the reason President Trump isn't going to
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: the World Trade Center is they won't let him speak.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: They won't let him make a speech. That's why he's
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: not going. Complete fake story. President Trump has been at
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: that ceremony a few times before. So he knows as
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: well as anybody, there's no speaking. There are no speeches
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: at the World Trade Center on 9-11. The families read
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: the names, but there are no speeches. There were the
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: first couple of years, but then about 15 years ago,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: They decided they'll never have any speeches, certainly not any politicians.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: There are no speeches. Nobody speaks. But again, the president's
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: been there a number of times. He absolutely knew that.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: So Maggie Haberman pushing that fake story. I saw it
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: even again this morning on New York One, which is
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: a very, very left-wing biased place, New York One. Ooh,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: they hate Trump over there. So they spread that fake
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: story again about he didn't come to the World Trade
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: Center because they wouldn't let him speak. But he was
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania. Made a great speech there. Mamdani was at
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: the World Trade Center in the VIP section there, behaving himself.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: Kathy Hochul was there. Barack Obama. Bill Clinton. You know,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: Bill Clinton's the guy, as we said, who let Osama
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: bin Laden live. Had two chances to kill him and said, no,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: don't kill him in the late 90s. So I wonder
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: what he thinks when he sees.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: The result of that decision. I wonder what he thinks
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: when he's sitting there. So there's a lot of other
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: stuff going on. The stock market moving up. Oil prices
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: have been spiking, but they're backing off a little, just
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: a little. They're not back to anything near where they
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: should be. But they did drop about $ 3 today. So
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: the president made clear at that convention he doesn't expect
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: a big price drop, does not expect a big price
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: drop until after the midterms. So it did spike up about,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: it's up about 13 cents a gallon just in the
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: last week. And you may see it go a little higher.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: That's apparently the Iranian strategy to just stall. They've been,
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: you know, just militarily destroyed. Their economy is being destroyed.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: But apparently that's the strategy. Just withstand this, withstand anything,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: just get through it. And they're hoping the Democrats win
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: the midterms and Democrats take over, you know, they'll They'll
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: end the war immediately. They'll become friends with the Iranians.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: They'll offer them money, rebuild, that sort of stuff. Hey,
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: we'll take a break, and then we'll take some calls next.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: 800-321-0710 is the number.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 5: 800-321-0710.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: It's Mark Simone here on September 11th, 25 years later,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: on 710WOR. The Mark Simone Show on 710WOR. Well, we'll
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: take some calls. Call me now. 800-321-0710 is the number.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 11: 800-321-0710.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: Hey, also, we've got Rosh Hashanah tonight. New York City
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: police say there'll be extra security everywhere. Kathy Hochul, you
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: can't always count on, said she'll make sure there's extra
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: security all over the New York State. Rosh Hashanah tonight.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: Tomorrow night as well for many.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 11: So.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: Let's take some calls. 800-321-0710 is the number. Look at that.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: We've got open lines for those of you that say,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: I can't get through. They're open lines right now. 800-321-0710.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: Let's go to Vincent in Brooklyn. Vincent, how are you doing?
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: Good morning, Mark. Mark, believe it or not, 25 years ago,
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: my girlfriend's medical receptionist, Josephine, who was a grown woman
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: who had grown children, Her daughter worked in the World
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: Trade Center, and when the planes hit and everything, all
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: the chaos was happening, my girlfriend's receptionist was going crazy
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: trying to contact her daughter. And in those days, they
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: had those stupid flip phones, right? She couldn't make contact
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: with her daughter. Well, as luck turned out, later on
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: in the day, she showed up at the office. Her
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: daughter was late because the train was late and she
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: didn't get to work on time at the World Trade Center.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: Talk about luck, Mark. I myself. That day, I had
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: to go have my car inspected. So I met an
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: official New York State inspection mechanic. And he has my car.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: I had this muscle car, Dodge Charger. He has it
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: on the machine, right? And he's running the test. All
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: of a sudden, the machine stops. He said, Vin, the
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: screen went blank. He said, it must be a system failure.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: He says, come back in a little while. I go home,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: my girlfriend calls me and tells me to put on
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: the TV, and I watch the tower come down. So
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: I said to myself, let me go pick up my
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: car no matter what. I'll get the inspection later. I
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: go up there, and on 4th Avenue and 30th Street
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: from Brooklyn, all you could see are hordes of people
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: that walked down. Over the bridge before they closed everything down,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: all filthy with dust.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's right. I forgot about that. Many people had
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: to walk home over the bridge.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: Mark, even in my yard, I was getting dust. I
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 3: ran throughout all my properties, closing the windows and everything
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: because some people who worked, some mothers were home with
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: their kids. I called up everybody and went into apartments.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: I said, close the windows. You want to hear a
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: 9-11 gangster story from Italy?
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, real fast.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: Okay, my friends called me up and said across the
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: street from where they live and their kids and their family,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 3: this Arabic bar was celebrating giving candy out as they
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: do when they kill people.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: My friends, they got pissed off. And so they went
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: over there. They threw a garbage pail through the window
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: of the bar. Then when the guys came out, my friends,
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: they had baseball bats.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: Let's not hear the rest of the story. But in
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: other words, it was like... Chaz Parliamentary saying, now you
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: just can't leave. We got the picture.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: And Mark, when the cops came, my friend spoke to
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: them in Italian. They walked the other way. The cops
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: didn't even do anything.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: All right, Vincent. Thanks for calling. Great call. Let's go
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: to Alex in Wayne, New Jersey. Alex, how you doing?
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 6: Hey, how you doing, Mark? Can you hear me?
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, yeah.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 6: How you doing? Yeah, I just wanted to tell you
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 6: a little bit about my experience during.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 18: When I was working in Macy's Hells East on that day.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 18: And basically, what happened was during afternoon, the way to
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 18: get out of the city that day, of course, Lincoln
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 18: Tunnel and GW and the Port Authority was closed, so
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 18: you couldn't get out. So we all start going up
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 18: to West Side Highway there to try to catch the
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 18: ferry to go to New Jersey. And that's when you discovered...
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 18: a two mile long line. And, uh, I don't know
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 18: what happened to those people. So, you know, basically we,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 18: we just went back to the Macy's and I was
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 18: lucky enough to, to catch a ride with somebody to
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 18: Hanau tunnel over there. And that was the only way
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 18: really to get to New Jersey. And we, you know,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 18: we got there to Jersey city and it was pretty crazy.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 18: It was like seeing out of a movie, like, uh,
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 18: you know, end of the world. Cause people just drop
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 18: everything even down in that area. And they just start,
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 18: Walking towards the ferry, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: All right, Alex. Thanks for calling. Yeah, I forgot about that.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: A lot of people couldn't get out. They closed. There
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: were tons of people that walked across the bridges to
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: get out of New York City. Let's go to Larry
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: in Long Island. Larry, how you doing?
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 6: Hi, Mark.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's the Buchanan guy. The Buchanan guy. He hung up.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: You know, if you want to be a good prank caller,
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: you've got to lose the accent. You can tell right away.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: You've got that accent. Oh, hi, Mark. This Buchanan guy's
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: been at it for Hey, actually, it's the 25th anniversary
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: of 9-11. I remember him calling before 9-11. So it's
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: also the 25th anniversary of him with the most outdated
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: prank call in the world. Anyway, give us a call.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: 800-321-0710 is the number. 800-321-0710. Yeah, it was an incredible
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: experience that day. If you were in Manhattan and you
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: didn't live in Manhattan, trying to get home was a nightmare.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: And then a lot of people, you couldn't get into Manhattan.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: They closed everything. If you came down the West Side Highway,
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: at that time they had toll booths. They wouldn't let
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: anybody in. The bridges, the tunnels, everything closed up. Anyway,
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: let's take some calls. Let's go to line one. How
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: are you doing? Line one, who is this?
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 17: My name is Tom.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: Tom?
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 17: I'm from New Jersey.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: How are you doing? What did you want to say, Tom?
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 11: Yeah, it's good, Mark.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 17: Osama bin Laden. It was credited that a Pakistani doctor
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 17: led to his capture, and they said that he was
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 17: entitled to a very, very high ransom payment. As far
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 17: as I know, he was put in prison by the Pakistanis,
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 17: and I can't find out if he's still in prison,
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 17: if he got the money.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. We don't really know if it
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: was that Pakistani doctor. He was in Pakistan. They found
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: him living in that house. One of the things they
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: learned in the hunt for Saddam Hussein, you know, they
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: were filing his top lieutenants. And then they realized, follow
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: the little guys, the couriers. Follow the couriers. And that's
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: how they eventually figured out where Saddam Hussein was. And
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: I believe the same thing happened with Osama bin Laden.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: They started following couriers and those people. Let's go to
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: Al in Yonkers. Al, how are you doing?
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 6: Good, Mark. I hope you're doing well on this terrible
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 6: day of remembrance.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 19: You know, I just wanted to ask you, you know,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 19: the president gave a good midterm convention speech, as did
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 19: the vice president. But I just don't understand when he
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 19: says about the $ 5, 000 he'll give to all the citizens
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 19: of this country if they win the midterms.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 6: Why? Maybe this should have been done already because... We
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 6: have the House and the Senate in both Republicans.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: Well, you're never going to see the 5,000. I have
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: to give you he's just shooting his mouth off. He
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: loves to come up with gimmicks. And it's a great
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: way to troll the fake news and the Democrats. Remember,
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: the Democrats are always giving away stuff. With Obama, it
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: was free phones. With Biden, it was I'll forgive your
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: student loans. And in this case, it was just I'll
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: give you a check for 5,000. It's the kind of
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: thing Democrats would do. Now, watch. As much as they
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: attack him for it, now they'll offer 10,000. Let's go
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: to Robert in Westchester. Robert, how are you doing?
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 4: Good morning, Mark.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, Robert. Thank you for taking my call.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 4: Mark, with Mondani first, with him coming.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 13: To the services today, he didn't do it because.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 11: Out of respect.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: No, probably not. But he behaved himself there. He handled
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: himself pretty well there. And you'll see the picture. It's
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: going viral. He did shake hands with Rudy Giuliani, knowing
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: photographers were going to photograph that.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: Hey, when we come back, Charles Payne, I don't know
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: where he was on 9-11. Well, we'll ask him. He'll
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: be the great Charles Payne, the brilliant guy from Fox Business.
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  Speaker 2: He's got a new book out. But people have made
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  Speaker 2: a fortune watching Charles Payne. Anyway, we'll talk to him
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  Speaker 2: next on 710WOR.
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  Speaker 8: From the WOR Life Vac Studios, this is the Mark
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  Speaker 8: Simone Show.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's the 25th anniversary of 9-11. It's hard to
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  Speaker 2: believe it's 25 years later. It's a date I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to remember. It's a day you don't want to
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  Speaker 2: think about. It's a day you don't want to go
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  Speaker 2: through again. But it was just such a horrible day.
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  Speaker 2: But important to remember. And 25 years later, we look
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  Speaker 2: back on it. As I said, they still do this
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  Speaker 2: in Pearl Harbor still today, 85 years later. Hey, with
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  Speaker 2: us right now, Charles Payne. Now, there's nobody smarter when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to money, investing, stocks. He's on the Fox
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  Speaker 2: Business Network every day from 2 to 3. It's called
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  Speaker 2: Making Money. You can make a lot of money watching
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  Speaker 2: him every day. But he's also written some great books
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  Speaker 2: that have helped people make big amounts of money. And
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  Speaker 2: he's got a new book out, How to Find the
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  Speaker 2: One Stock That Could Change Your Life. Charles Payne's new book,
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  Speaker 2: How to Find the One Stock That Could Change Your Life.
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  Speaker 2: Windfall Formula. It shows you just what to do. He's
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  Speaker 2: with us right now. Charles Payne, how you doing?
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  Speaker 6: I'm doing so good, Mark. Well, the official name of
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  Speaker 6: the book is Undeniable Windfalls. Oh, okay. Yeah, Undeniable Windfalls.
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  Speaker 6: Here's the thing. Think about this. Almost everybody's got Apple
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  Speaker 6: on their 401k. Yeah. But not everyone's 401k is worth
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  Speaker 6: a million bucks.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: So there's a couple of things, right? You've got to
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  Speaker 6: be able to find these things, but also intentionally make
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  Speaker 6: the big investment. And people are afraid because Wall Street
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  Speaker 6: tells you, hey, you know, be over-diversified. Be happy with 8%,
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 6: you know, this kind of stuff. And all of it
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  Speaker 6: makes a lot of money for them. It hedges them.
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  Speaker 6: But ultimately, I've created several ways of locating these ideas,
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  Speaker 6: whether it's broken IPOs. And by the way, I use
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  Speaker 6: examples of my own account, like General Electric, you know, after...
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  Speaker 6: You know, for a while, the company lost its way.
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  Speaker 6: They brought in a new CEO. He did certain things.
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  Speaker 6: And so there's a checklist of what you want to watch.
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  Speaker 6: And now, of course, if you bought it, if you
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  Speaker 6: load it up on that thing, it's been a monster windfall.
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  Speaker 6: So it's Undeniable Windfalls.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a new book. You should get it. You'll
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  Speaker 2: make a lot of money. Undeniable Windfalls. The book's out already.
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  Speaker 2: We can get it now.
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  Speaker 13: It's out.
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  Speaker 6: In fact, you know, just all they have to do
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  Speaker 6: is go to UndeniableWindfalls.com. The book is free. People pay
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  Speaker 6: for their own postage and handling. But the book is
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  Speaker 6: absolutely free. And it's shattering all my records, man. It's
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  Speaker 6: flying off. People are doing great with it. And, you know,
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  Speaker 6: for me, it's humbling. I was in London last weekend.
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  Speaker 6: Three separate occasions, people came up, made money with you.
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  Speaker 6: I was in Scotland a couple weeks ago at St.
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  Speaker 2: Andrews.
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  Speaker 6: You know, a guy runs up to me, I made
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  Speaker 6: money with him. Even today, I was at the firehouse
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  Speaker 6: that lost the most amount of money. firefighters on 9-11
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  Speaker 6: and a couple of people mentioned and I'm like, thanks,
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 6: you know, but it's, it's a beautiful thing, man. And
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  Speaker 6: the good news is that the window of opportunity is
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  Speaker 6: going to be open, I think for at least another
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  Speaker 6: three to five years.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Undeniable windfalls is the book. Go to undeniablewindfalls.com. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: you were talking about obviously 9-11 all morning. I forgot
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  Speaker 2: to bring up the stock market obviously closed and it
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: was a frightening period because everybody thought when it, open,
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  Speaker 2: it would plunge like 10,000 points or something. But who
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  Speaker 2: was it? Was it Dick Grasso that brilliantly led us
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  Speaker 2: through that?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, he was so amazing. Oh, my goodness. He was just,
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  Speaker 6: you know, I'm getting goosebumps right now, man, just talking
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  Speaker 6: to you about this. But he was amazing. It was
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 6: an amazing show of solidarity. And it was interesting because
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  Speaker 6: after that, almost every time there was a headline terror event,
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  Speaker 6: the market went up instead of going down. It's sort
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  Speaker 6: of like, listen, we know what you want to do.
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  Speaker 6: You know, we know that the stock market is sort
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  Speaker 6: of a proxy for America's greatness, and you're just not
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  Speaker 6: going to succeed. You're not going to do that to us.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it was an amazing period there. I mean, Grasso,
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  Speaker 2: brilliant to it. And obviously, there was no Fox Business
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  Speaker 2: Network 25 years ago. What were you doing then? Well,
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: here's the irony.
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  Speaker 6: So I have my own business, and my business was,
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  Speaker 6: and I still do, of course, you know, doing the
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  Speaker 6: hotline and writing the books, but My office was one
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  Speaker 6: block away from really where all the, you know, I
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 6: was down at 50 Broadway. And so my gym was like,
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 6: my gym was closed. It was one block from the
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  Speaker 6: World Trade Center. I was on my way to CNN
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  Speaker 6: that day, CNN FM, that morning. So I'm on the
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 6: road with my wife on the West Side Highway, and
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 6: I'm seeing all these fire trucks going on the other side,
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  Speaker 6: you know, the uptown side going downtown. And my initial
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 6: assumption was, you know, this must be the biggest pileup
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  Speaker 6: in the world. I'd never seen this, you know, this many,
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 6: you know, first responders. And so I get to CNN,
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 6: take the elevator up, and they say, yeah, a plane
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 6: hit the World Trade Center. So initially I'm thinking, a
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 6: prop plane? You know, no, it was a passenger plane.
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  Speaker 6: And at their location, they had a giant window, like
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 6: a 100-foot window. You could see the entire city. And
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 6: right at that moment, the next plane went into the
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 6: building and to the world trade and you know I
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  Speaker 6: just I left man I went and got my son
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  Speaker 6: then I went and got my daughter and I went
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  Speaker 6: home but it was just amazing you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah wow so we're talking with Charles Payne get his
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  Speaker 2: new book Undeniable Windfalls how to pick that one stock
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  Speaker 2: how to really really succeed with it undeniablewindfall.com undeniablewindfalls.com hey
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  Speaker 2: let me just ask AI all we heard is going
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: to put everybody out of work nobody will have a
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: job AI will take over everything Yet just the opposite
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  Speaker 2: has happened. Employment is up. Why is that?
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  Speaker 6: You know, this is the fourth industrial revolution. And this
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 6: has always happened, every industrial revolution, from the very first one,
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  Speaker 6: when they had the first weaving machines in Great Britain.
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  Speaker 6: You know, there was like, well, you know, you had
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  Speaker 6: these big, big giant rooms of women weaving and clothes together.
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  Speaker 6: All of a sudden, you have this looming machines that
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  Speaker 6: can do the work of like 30 women weaving. And,
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  Speaker 6: you know, people, there was a guy named Ned Ludd
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  Speaker 6: who went and one day him and some folks went
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  Speaker 6: and they broke up all the machines, right? And ever
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  Speaker 6: since then, they called people who were afraid of technology Luddites.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: So some of this is just naturally, you know, Luddites.
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  Speaker 6: And there's so much common sense. I mean, listen, we
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  Speaker 6: do know, if you look at some of the things
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  Speaker 6: that are happening now with some of these college grads,
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  Speaker 6: AI has taken their jobs. But Ned Ludd, and I
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  Speaker 6: got to tell you, this blew my mind because It
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  Speaker 6: was in The Economist. They hate President Trump. They will
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  Speaker 6: never do anything to give him a compliment. But last week,
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  Speaker 6: they acknowledged that so far, if you trace AI jobs
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 6: that have been lost, it's about 200,000. And AI jobs
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 6: that have been gained, it's 1 million. And so, you know,
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  Speaker 6: if this industrial revolution is like all the rest, when
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  Speaker 6: the dust settles, we'll have more jobs, better paying jobs,
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  Speaker 6: and humanity will be better off.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and five years from now, the data center will
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  Speaker 2: not be something we'd be afraid of. It'll operate quietly
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  Speaker 2: with quieter turbines. Will that be the case?
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  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, absolutely. It's going to be less than five years.
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  Speaker 6: Right now, I've been interviewing a bunch of mayors from
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  Speaker 6: these towns. It's already an economic godsend for these places where...
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  Speaker 6: You know, the population was like 20 years ago, there
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 6: were 3,000 people there, and now there's 800. You know,
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 6: these kind of places where the last thing they care
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 6: about is a little extra noise. You know, they're dying,
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  Speaker 6: they're in death's bed, and all of a sudden, you know,
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  Speaker 6: you've got 2,000 construction jobs. And then when that's over,
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  Speaker 6: after a few years, you'll have at least 300 or
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 6: 400 permanent jobs. They'll create their own energy source, and
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  Speaker 6: they'll have extra.
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  Speaker 2: Energy, actually.
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  Speaker 6: They'll have enough to put it back into the system. Uh,
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  Speaker 6: so the utility costs are going to go down that up.
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  Speaker 6: So it's just, you know, it's that they're giving it
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  Speaker 6: the same treatment that they gave natural gas and fracking, uh,
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 6: you know, the, the same treatment they gave to, Hey,
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 6: we need to stop having babies in this country. Uh,
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  Speaker 6: you know, it's the same sort of treatment that we've
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  Speaker 6: seen over and over again for advancement. And I think
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 6: this one is extra special because, you know, they hate
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  Speaker 6: the fact that to how we started this conversation, that
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 6: Trump is getting so much credit for these blue collar jobs,
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 6: not only jobs, But blue-collar wages are going through the roof.
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  Speaker 12: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Charles Payne has a new book out, and you
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: should get it. It's called Undeniable Windfalls. Undeniable Windfalls. Just
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: finding that one stock that could change your life. You
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: can go to UndeniableWindfalls.com. UndeniableWindfalls.com. There are a lot of
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: stories like that where somebody just had this one stock,
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: maybe Berkshire Hathaway a million years ago, or just became
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: millionaires off one stock. Is that what inspired you?
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  Speaker 13: Well, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: What inspired it was my own experience, really. Everything I
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  Speaker 6: do and everything I've done is just me learning on
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 6: the job, so to speak, and being introspective. Over the
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 6: last few years, I would glance up and see a
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 6: stock go across the tape. Wow, XYZ, it's $ 140 a share?
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 6: Let me see when I sold this thing. And you
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 6: look back and you're like, what? And then you think,
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 6: why did I sell it then? Like Taser. You know
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 6: the Tasers?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: So I think I must have made, I think I
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 6: bought Taser. I made 40% on it in about a month.
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  Speaker 17: Wow.
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  Speaker 6: That's a lot of money, right? In a month?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: So it changed its name in about, if I'd have
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 6: held it for another, let's say, four or five years.
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  Speaker 6: Let's say I put $ 100 into it and I took
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 6: out $ 140. That same $ 100 would have been something on
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 6: it like $ 50, 000. In other words, I missed thousands of percent.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 6: Thousands of percent.
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  Speaker 11: And why?
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 6: Why?
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  Speaker 2: Why?
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  Speaker 6: I kept asking myself, why am I doing this? Why
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 6: do we do this? And how can we avoid it?
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 6: So I spent over a year writing the book, but
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 6: I spent many years pondering this and taking notes for it.
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  Speaker 8: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: So everywhere they hear these stories and they say, well,
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: there must be another one of these out there. Well,
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 2: this is how you can help. This will help you
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: find it. It's a great book. It's called Undeniable Windfalls,
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: Charles Payne's new book, How to Find That Kind of
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: a Stock. Undeniable Windfalls. You can go to a, Just
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: go to the website and get it. It's free, right?
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: It's a free book. Yeah. Just pay for the shipping.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 2: Go to undeniablewindfalls.com. Undeniablewindfalls.com. And make sure you watch Charles
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: Payne every weekday, 2 o'clock. He's great on the Fox
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: Business Network. Charles Payne, great talk. Neil, let's do it
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  Speaker 2: again soon.
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  Speaker 6: Man, I miss you, Mark. You are so good. You're
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 6: so gracious, and that's why people love you.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, thanks. Well, you too.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 6: Thanks.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: We'll do it again. All right, buddy. Thanks for being
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 2: with us.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 6: All right, thanks.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: Take care. Hey, it's the 25th anniversary of 9-11. We'll
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: talk about it throughout the day. Coming up at noon,
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: Buck and Clay, and then at 3 o'clock, the most
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: listened to radio show in America, Sean Hannity. He does
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: this national radio show that became the biggest show in America. Well,
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: it began, the first show was September 10th, 2001. Second
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: day of the show was 9-11, so I'm sure he'll
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: talk about that today. Then you got Jesse Kelly at 6,
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 2: and you got the very funny Jimmy Fallon, 9 o'clock.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: And I'm here 9 to noon. It's three hours every day,
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: 9 to noon. And, of course, right before me, it's
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: Curtis Sliwa and Larry Menti on 710WOR. On 710WOR, this
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: is the Mark Simone Show. Well, it's the day I
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: hate every year. We have to look back on that
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: horrible day, 9-11, but it's 25 years later. Hard to believe.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: You know, if you're a college kid today, it was
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: before you were born. You know, like when we'd hear
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: about Pearl Harbor, it was something so far in the past.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 2: We weren't alive when it was there. So for many
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: college kids today, it's something they didn't go through. But
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: important to remember it every year. One of the... Those
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: lost in the World Trade Center, the granddaughter spoke, and
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: she said, we'll never forget. Most important thing, never forget. Hey, otherwise,
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: it's going to be a nice day today. It'll be sunny.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: It'll be about 80. Should be nice all weekend. It's
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: Rosh Hashanah tonight as well. So I'll be back Monday.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: I'm here every weekday, 9 to noon. I'll see you
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: Monday on 710WOR.