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Ep. 1 : All Stars, Favorite Sets, Pitching Prospects · Cards & Categories

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  All right, everybody, welcome to the first Cards and Categories podcast. I'm
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  Mike Hulard here from rams Ball, and I am joined by my very good
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  friend Jeremy Brewer. Jeremy, how's it going, introduce yourself. Welcome to
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  the first pod. It is going well. Thank you for getting to the
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  first pod. It's always an adventure getting somewhere like this. M Yeah,
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  Jeremy Brewer, ras Ball contributor for the last too many years. If yes,
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  Gray, probably every Sunday hosting articles about hit her profiles top one hundred
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  hitters for the rest of the season. Got to get an article out this
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  weekend for the second a half, so let's look forward to it every Sunday
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  afternoon. So glad to be here. Are you excited to go? Yeah?
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  Definitely yeah. And if you don't know what I'd write at Rasball,
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  I write the Waiver Wire reports that runs on Saturday afternoon, So I give
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  all your good suggestions for bad pickups and sorting through leagues. But on this
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  podcast, we're going to look at a little bit of a twist or baseball
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  cards and what it really means to us. We've really known each other since
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  we're just about in kindergarten now so ever since then, I think we really
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  I remember trading baseball cards in your basement forever and just going through the cards
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  that we would sort and collect, and so both of us came up more
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  so in the nineties. So I think that's going to be a little bit
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  of our twists going forward. But we're also looking forward to hopefully eventually having
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  some interviews that come in or different subjects that kind of go with the ups
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  and downs of kind of the card market, as well as focusing on card
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  the use that comes out, and really just kind of having features on our
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  favorite parts of cards and card collecting and what it really means to us.
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  Yep. And I think it's it's always a fun hobby and everybody does it
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  different, so that's what's so exciting about it. I know you and I
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  even do it a little bit different. So excited to get into some how
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  we look at things and what makes it makes it fun. Yeah, that'll
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  that'll obviously be the cards portion of the podcast. In the categories, we'll
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  focus on fantasy baseball in also a little bit of a card twist I think
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  there because we'll focus on prospects today a little bit. We're going to get
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  into it later pitching prospects that will come up here for the second half,
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  but we're also just going to look at other I think values overall. So
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  I think when you really kind of look at the information we're going to be
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  providing here, you're going to get a little bit of a combination of things
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  to invest in from the card standpoint and fancy standpoint, maybe trying to tease
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  out what brings value to different sides. All right, So, hey,
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  question for you, I know, watching All Star effective the last few days
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  here, what was your favorite favorite moment of the games? The derby,
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  celebrity softball, if that's what tickles your fancy? What was your favorite favorite
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  moment? Oh, you know what, that's pretty tough. Last night,
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  I maybe the first inning was probably the most exciting and also the most harrowing.
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  As um, I'm a Cardinals fan, you're a Cardinals fan. I'm
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  a little bit of a White Saxoman too, and live in Chicago. But
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  watching both Adolie's Garcia and Brandy Rosa grain and make those great catches to open
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  the game, rob extra base hits from Kuma and Freeman, like that was
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  pretty big dagger to the heart considering how big, how apparently the Cardinal season
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  has been going to. Yeah, watch these two outfielders that certainly could be
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  a boon to the Cardinals lineup this year, just really show off their skills
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  between the home run derby those catches being did a lot of coverage of them
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  being best friends, obviously with their Cuban heritage together, and then they worked
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  roommates for the Cardinals. And Garcia is the godfather for Randy Rose Ray's kid.
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  I think that's right. Where is it the other way around? Is
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  it? I don't remember, but yeah, I can't remember. Just just
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  calling the godfather, it doesn't really matter. That sounds like a rose arena.
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  I yes me because he maybe more of a cowboy, because yeah,
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  certainly. I really enjoyed watching them work together like all weekend and just kind
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  of like have their friendship being the spotlight. It was a it's kind of
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  an awkward moment as a Cardinals fan to watch, but it was certainly fun
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  because I definitely love both those guys. About you so fun to watch and
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  I mean I have to, you know, going on a bandwagon here.
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  Also watching Zak Gallen pitch as well, another former cardinal out there. But
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  I think for me and I don't applies as much anymore. But I'm an
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  n L guy through and through, and so seeing the NL win for the
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  first time since twenty twelve, which is just crazy to think that it's been
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  that long since they won an All Star Game. You'd think that the parody's
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  close enough that you know, they'd luck into a win at one point in
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  the last decade. So that was exciting to see that them actually breakthrough.
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  It was not without some pressure at the end there. Uh. And you
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  know, I don't think LEAs Diaz was the one that everybody was expecting to
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  to bust through and you know, win it for the first time and you
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  know, over ten years for the for the NL team, So that was
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  that was exciting to see. Um. And you know, I I love
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  the All Star Game. It's fun to watch. I really love the in
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  field interviews that they do now that's been one of the most interesting pieces.
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  I remember last year when they did Alecmano while he was pitching, was just
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  unbelievably entertaining. Uh And I think he started spiraling at that point, but
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  it's probably a probably no correlation, but for me. For me, that
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  was probably the biggest thing. And um, I just wouldn't watch the decent
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  amount of derby and I know it's be interesting to get to the fantasy baseball
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  impacts of it. Luis wrote, Robert, you know you're you're one of
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  your White Sox guys getting tweaked up during during the derby. Not sure if
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  he's gonna make it back to start the second half. Looks like, you
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  know, they call him day to day, but they'll give him a test
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  before the game start, uh, you know, later this week. But
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  that's that's got to put a little fear and employers for the future for the
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  derby. Yeah, I mean I didn't even speak into existence before he started
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  the derby that I was like, man, it would really be unfortunate if
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  he really hurts himself there, because he's kind of got a reputation of being
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  made a glass that seems like he's always pouring a hammy or a groin or
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  a cap or a wrist or he's just has never been healthy, which I
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  think it's why we've never been able to see him really lay into balls.
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  He did during the derby, and so he finally has a little bit of
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  a coming out party and beats Adlee in that first round with the cool switch
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  hit, and then immediately can't play in the All Star game that he was
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  supposed to start as the White Sox like representative because he tweaked his cap.
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  It's like maybe the most White Sox thing to ever happen, and so it's
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  just so fitting. I can't believe that he actually hurt himself, and like
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  everyone, I think kind of saw it coming from a mile away here at
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  Chicago because it's just really his reputation at this point. Yeah, I'm glad
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  you mentioned Adlie though, because to me, of all the players in the
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  derby, Adlie was the most impressive. I mean it that it might sound
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  counterintuitive because you know Washingtons Lad, you know, launch everything, watching Julio
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  Rodriguez did clearly impressive. But for Adlee to go up there, you know,
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  you don't generally see the catcher coming up to the home run derby and
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  then guither switch hit during in the derby, that that to me was just
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  that was awesome. That was pure entertainments, and that was just showing off
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  the amazing skills he hasn't shows you you know why he's probably one of the
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  best catchers in the game. That he can do that. Now, I
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  just hope that him and others don't get that. You know, that downfall
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  the end coded the second half. Now we always see one guy from the
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  derby have like a month to recover. Uh. So I don't know who
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  that's going to be this year. Uh it's Addliwood wouldn't surprise me, just
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  just because he went all out. Uh and I don't think we can count
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  Louise Robert. It's just because and I mean, yeah, that was really
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  impressive, but athlete the right handed he just like ripped off like six or
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  seven right in a real right handed He was so crazy watching And I mean
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  we haven't even touched on Julio. I guess maybe part of it is like
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  that was a great show that he put on. But the record breaking home
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  runs, but at this point and doing it in front of the home fans,
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  right, doing in front of the home fans, that's that's gonna be
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  awesome. Um, last thing I want to hit an All Star Game.
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  How about the fans chanting for Otani trying to go trying to bring Otani to
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  Seattle. I don't know where the guy's going to the off season. I
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  frankly be shocked if he sticks around with the Angels. I you know,
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  it's there's something to say him and Trout, you know, watch them go,
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  you know, continue to power on. But there has been nothing just
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  tells me that that organization knows what to do to build around those guys.
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  So you know, if Otani, well, here's about winning, I can't
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  see him sticking around, you know. And no, I agree. I
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  mean, I think the landing place is probably the Dodgers, makes enough sense.
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  But I mean, Sandal can always throw the ring, their hat in
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  the ring. Um, I know that they were probably one of the first
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  runners off the originally that seemed like but I don't know if that's just like
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  media speculation trying to grow Japanese dudes to Seattle or they were actually in it.
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  Ever, Um, they've always seen they have that connection there. There
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  is a higher population there, uh for you know, and fan base built
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  for them. So it does seem like they have, uh have something figured
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  out attracting players from from overseas there. Maybe it's just an eachy row that
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  you know, lays the path and ember it's like, hey, this is
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  where to go and based on what he did. But yeah, I wouldn't
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  be shocked to see him go there. But Sasaki and Jojima and Kuma came
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  through there, so it isn't just like just each row, so they do
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  have a history. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, well we'll see what
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  see what happens there. But hey, All Star Game was exciting. I
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  think that they keep getting better, uh with the festivities there. To me,
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  it's the you know, and I'm biased, it is the best all
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  surfacetivities and all the major sports. Um. But I also don't tend to
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  watch the Hockey All Star Game too too often, uh or you know,
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  skills competitions or anything like that. But I think it's it's a great,
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  great festivity. And also I think I think it's great for the players that
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  aren't there to get a break and recharge for that second half. So definitely
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  some some guys that needed a little banged up and needed a break, so
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  excited for a second half. It's gonna be good. It's gonna be a
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  good one. There's a lot of teams in that. Yeah, absolutely,
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  And like I mean, I think it's one of the things that I wanted
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  to get in on the All Star Games. Two, it's just that I
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  agree that it's one of the premier sports events mostly I think for a nostalgier
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  factor to me, I mean being Baseball card fans ourselves that like there's an
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  aesthetic two the All Star Game as well, which is ruined by the terrible,
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  terrible jerseys that they wear. That like, I will go to the
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  grave demanding that they go back to being able to wear their regular jerseys,
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  because like that was part of the charm of seeing like especially during the nineties
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  when we came up that like you couldn't see other teams really if you didn't
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  have cable, and even then ESPN wasn't showing too many games, so seeing
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  the All Star Game and seeing the guys play like it was the only chance
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  to see them not on baseball cards. And so it's cool to like tie
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  in with teams that they're playing with. And I've also seen talk kind of
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  swirl around this year about what they could do to make the Allstar Game more
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  exciting in terms of like moving it from an ALNL format to maybe like a
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  World versus USA or something like that, and like I'm not on board with
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  that either. Maybe on like getting old and stagy and loving the old school
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  ways. But I there's something classics about AOL versus now, even though there's
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  merrily all the time now, or there's the balance schedule that like, there's
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  just it's like they're ripping all these things away from us. They're ripping the
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  shift away. They brought in the switch Golod like just let us have ale
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  versus and out Like come on, yeah, I'm there with you. Like
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  there's something to be said for having to sit there with the guys that you're
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  competing against every day in that same division that you know you get to put
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  them, put all that away for just a second team up and go after
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  the other guys. Right. I think there's something to be said for that,
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  and it gets to the core of it. The game is the same
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  on both sides now, there's no d H. There's nothing you know different
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  about the game for either league really, But you're right there. I will
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  have to admit I've I've grown accustomed to the pitch clock. I'm actually okay
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  with that one. The shifts, I'm I'm lukewarm. I'm lukewarm just depends
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  on who's batting and if I want them to succeed I do. I do
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  sorely miss the little numbers down the third base line to turn into doubles.
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  Uh. I thought that was just a like a unique Sunique skill that if
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  you could figure out how to hit a long bunt and double, that was
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  that was always fun to watch. But that's Yeah, it takes the creativity
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  out of But I get the point, get a little back to the true
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  true game. Yeah. And I don't know if you're subscribed to Baseball Perspective,
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  but Russell Carlton today on DP had a article that actually, I think
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  a lot of people suspected that especially left came to theirs when the shift was
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  banned, would lean into striking out more because like, the incentive to put
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  it into play is even lower if you don't have to worry about hitting to
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  pull side power. And his numbers really bore that out that the left came
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  to strike out. Rage is up even though actually those guys should be hitting
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  for trying to be hit for contact more because it's more advantageous that like when
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  they were hitting into the shift previously, it was more advantageous to hit for
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  power because like you've got to try to hit it over the dudes there's so
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  many of them on that side of the Yeah, so I don't know.
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  We'll see if maybe like that shifts things at all. Like obviously people are
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  going to point to release Arise a lot this year and what he's doing and
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  his quote unquote chase for four hundred, that's twenty points short right now.
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  Yeah, I'm getting the kick out of like Polchet for four hundred. I'd
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  like to see what he hit. You know, you have to hit twenty
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  the rest of the way to get there. But yeah, so we'll see
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  if like there is a shift because like the other thing BP also did today
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  as they put out their top fifty good season prospects, and it does seem
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  like there are more dudes coming through the miners that have hit tool or I
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  was looking at guys who were drafted on I guess I was Sunday into Monday,
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  right, And actually we didn't even talk about that. I love the
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  draft. It's actually I think it's gotten way better and I really enjoyed watching
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  it that it didn't hurt that the top five dudes were all really great.
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  But even in that draft, it seems like there are a lot more guys
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  who were going that had a speed and contact element, and it looks like,
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  you know, maybe these teams are leaning into a little bit of like
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  what MLPs trying to advertise with all this um more action and everything. Well
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  in the class and first all agree that the the spectacle that they're creating like
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  they've done a really good job with that. You know, I do wish
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  they would move away from Manfred announcing every every pick, Um, it's just
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  pick somebody else. I mean, bring bring back an announcer. Uh,
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  you know Sean Casey, what else is he doing? He's gonna be the
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  Yankees hitting coach when when he's not, you know, I thought, I
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  mean, what else you got to do? Yeah, but um, I
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  did think that the draft this year, though, it was incredibly deep,
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  and you know, with having that that COVID draft, they did what five
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  rounds is I think what they did when they had that, you know that
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  that COVID draft, and there's a number of guys that you know would have
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  gone in the sixth, seventh, eighth that would have signed right, that
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  would have signed gone into the systems and they all went back to school that
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  they improved, they got better, and so this is like build up of
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  talent that was like waiting for this draft to go through. So you were
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  getting guys in the fifteens, twenties, thirties that were legitimate good hitters.
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  You know, all of them question marks. Once gets the outstarted back the
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  first round, there always something right, there's some something going on with them.
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  You know, they have one great year, but they haven't hurt the
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  year before or something like that. But you know, you were looking at
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  some of those swings of the guys coming to the back back having a lot
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  of a lot of college guys going and it definitely definitely some talent, especially
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  you think going from fantasy perspective there, I think there's a number of fast
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  movers in that were coming through that draft that we need to keep our eye
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  on. Yeah, I mean I think you just like I am, in
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  most leagues, and I think everybody's probably doing this um except for I think
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  maybe fan tracks, like you don't have to like sign with the player,
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  but most other formats like the player and team have to comment twin agreement,
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  and it becomes like a fasterest finger exercise waiting for the Paul Schemes contract to
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  be announced or the Dylan Cruise one. So it's going to be an interesting
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  time. I think a gantasy land trying to if you're in a league where
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  those guys haven't hit your player pool yet, of them maybe having an impact
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  I think especially it's not just like a deep dynasty thing anymore. That like
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  if you are in a keeper league, Schemes and Cruise might be ready next
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  year along with Langford. You know, it's going to be pretty cool.
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  Yeah. Yeah, there's gonna be number guys that will make an impact next
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  year. There's guys that could make an impact back this year. I don't
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  know if anybody's gonna jump all the way there, haven't seen that for a
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  while, but it's possible. Guy like Skens definitely has that capability. So
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  yeah, we'll see what We'll see what happens. Yeah, I agree,
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  And so yeah we'll get onto the rest of the show. So today we
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  get planned on discussing really our favorite sets of all time and gives you just
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  a really good background on where we're coming from and who we are and what
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  we're looking for in our cards. And then after that we're going to have
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  the Fantasy postion D, a draft of pitching prospects that we think are going
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  to come up. So we're going to do three quick rounds back and forth
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  and then see who is the best stats de pain of the year that compare.
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  We're going to get into the cards portion of the pod now and get
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  into our favorite sets of all time. So, as I explained a little
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  bit in the first half, were nineties kids. So I think that's a
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  little bit of the route that we're going to be going here and going through
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  a little bit of our favorite cards and really not only will I think it
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  reflect who we are in terms of our card collecting, but it's a little
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  bit of like what we're looking for because like, in terms of some of
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  these things that I like from my favorite set, I carry them forward and
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  in cards, so I'm looking for my PC or new sets that I'm trying
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  to put together, and I think, um, you've got a little bit
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  of like a similar flavor on your end. But I think I'll let you
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  kick off through and go through, and what's your favorite card set of all
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  time? All? Right, Favorite Cards set of all Time? Nineteen ninety
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  three Leaf Studio. Uh, not the first one that everybody's gonna gonna pick
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  up, and most folks probably don't even remember Leaf studio cards from back in
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  the day. But to me, this this is a This was a fantastic
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  set. There's a number of things about it that really stick out to me.
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  First of all, they're you know, there's something about the photography,
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  and this is a posed set, so it's not like this, you know,
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  Stadium Club or something like that. You have amazing photography. But they
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  each car has the kind of the background of the logo of the team,
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  various logos, so you know, I was actually looking at the Mariners earlier
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  because I was looking at the Ken Griffy and the Randy Johnson, and you
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  know they have the Griffy has the old kind of compass style Mariners logo on
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  it. You know, the Johnson had a slightly different version on it,
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  but love that kind of gives a VLV feel of the background. You can
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  really see the logo of each player. The other thing that I really like
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  about it is, you know they have they have the fake signatures on the
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  cards. I'm usually not a big fan of the fake signatures because they're almost
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  two real at times, especially the newer heritage sets. You know, you
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  take a look at one of those, you almost have to do a double
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  take, like is this an autograph? Is this not? And you actually
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  see people sell them like on eBay and things like that, like hey,
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  look at the oh Tany autograph and it's just like now there's like thirty million
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  of those cards out there. Um. But what I what I like about
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  this one is, you know, they go back to that old nineties style
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  where not only do they do the signature, but they put it in like
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  a nice you know, silver or gold. This one's got a silver.
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  Um. It really gets you to look at the player's signatures and have that
• 23:15
  kind of view and like it's like I'm looking at the King Griffy Junior in
• 23:19
  front of me. I got the wonderful Griffy here, and his signature is
• 23:23
  probably one of my favorite signatures of all time. It's just like it's just
• 23:26
  a plastic, beautiful signature. So that that set to me, there's just
• 23:33
  a great aesthetic to it. Um. And then I think the other thing
• 23:36
  that's really interesting is you know, uh, you know, back when I
• 23:38
  was I was a kid, you know you as well. I remember we're
• 23:41
  always reading the back of the cards right, looking at the stats exactly things
• 23:45
  that Leaf Studio doesn't put the stats on him, does not put the stats
• 23:48
  on it. It's all random stuff. And I was I was looking through
• 23:52
  the Griffy here and it's like, what's his favorite hobby? It's cars.
• 24:00
  Then if he wasn't a baseball player, probably a marathon runner. It might
• 24:07
  have been a marathon runner. If he hadn't been a baseball player. Um,
• 24:10
  you know, most prized possession was a Ferrari. I guess I'm not
• 24:14
  surprised by that one. Uh, but how old was he in? Like
• 24:18
  nineteen eighteen nine night? I'll look it up because you don't have it,
• 24:22
  you don't have I have. I have his data birth on here, so
• 24:26
  it does have some stats. Yeah, so he would have been you know,
• 24:29
  twenty twenty four at the time. That makes a far sense. Well,
• 24:36
  I mean I don't know what you when you were twenty four, you
• 24:37
  had a Ferrari, right, yeah, yep, yeah definitely. So anyway,
• 24:44
  I love the set. It's uh, each card has a nice different
• 24:48
  feel to it. Uh, there's just something special about the simplicity. And
• 24:52
  that's also a very easy set to collect, right, there's not a big
• 24:56
  value card in there. There's not anything that you know, is a hindrance
• 24:59
  to letting you get in there. It's not like you're chasing you know,
• 25:02
  the the Griffy Rookie or the Jeter Rookie or something like that from from the
• 25:06
  nineties, that there's a there's a barrier to entry to it. It's just
• 25:08
  a nice looking set and kind of your point earlier, see that, how
• 25:12
  that cascades through. You know. I'm always a big fan of those other,
• 25:18
  you know sets, the more modern sets, like the stadium club things
• 25:21
  that really accentuates you know, the game or the logos or uh something about
• 25:26
  the team aspect. I love those types of cards. Um, And so
• 25:30
  that you know that, that one really just jumps out to me. And
• 25:33
  I've I have I think I have the whole set. I haven't I need
• 25:36
  to organize them sitting around. Yeah, I got all in a single box.
• 25:41
  I just haven't taken the time to go through and make sure I actually
• 25:45
  have every single one, and so I think they're all there. But that'll
• 25:49
  be a fun, fun evening activity one of these days. Yeah. And
• 25:55
  with the ninety three leaf studio cards, especially with that Griffy one. Um,
• 25:59
  I didn't mention before that we will have a compendium on razball dot com
• 26:03
  that like has links and stuff so that you can see these cards, because
• 26:06
  I know it's a little tough on a podcast platform to see these cards,
• 26:11
  but that way you'll have an easy spot to click on the links and look
• 26:15
  those those cards. And the Griffy one's definitely great one. I remember ninety
• 26:18
  three Leaf Studio as well. The one that really stood out to me was
• 26:22
  the J. Buner card. Buner's got a great card too, just because
• 26:27
  like it's just like his bald head that's like the entire card. It takes
• 26:30
  up like all of the card. And I love, like you like the
• 26:36
  huge like baseball cap logo that's in the background, and they're they're really cool
• 26:41
  cards, especially like the stock is a little thicker too, so like the
• 26:47
  stock on them was sturdier and just like felt more expensive. Yeah, there's
• 26:52
  definitely a quality card which you don't see as much these days. And I
• 26:56
  swear that we're not like Big Mariner stands here. We just talked about Griffie
• 27:00
  Johnson and Buner, the nineteen ninety three studios Leaf Studios. So but hey,
• 27:07
  I guess you can't can't talk about the nineties Mariners without those guys Uh
• 27:12
  and Bun or the character that he was. No, I mean, and
• 27:17
  that Mariners teal was made for baseball cards in the nineties, Like I think
• 27:21
  that's maybe part of the reason they made the change, like that that Mariners
• 27:25
  teal and Navy blue, like was the nineties at baseball, So it's hard
• 27:29
  to get away from it. Is. So how about you, what what
• 27:30
  what? What set sticks out to you? I have a feeling we're gonna
• 27:34
  go stay in the nineties, But what's set for you really really sticks out
• 27:40
  and is one of your favorites? Well, just like you, I'm going
• 27:42
  nineteen ninety three, but I'm going upper Deck. UM. Upper Deck was
• 27:47
  my favorite back in the day, just because like um, and especially with
• 27:52
  this ninety three upper Deck set, it was literally the junkiest junk wax ever,
• 27:56
  Like you could buy it everywhere. You could buy it Walmart, Target,
• 28:00
  gas stations, candy stores, theme parks, like I think I swear
• 28:07
  like probably buying some at like six Flags back in the day, and maybe
• 28:10
  even the pool and like they were everywhere. It was only the fifth year
• 28:15
  of Upper Decks so like people were still kind of like in the flurry over
• 28:19
  the nineteen eighty nine Griffey Rookie card and thinking that like ninety three upper Deck
• 28:25
  and upper Deck in general could be some valuable stuff, but really hasn't.
• 28:32
  You can probably get the whole set. I'm trying to remember what I bought
• 28:34
  mine for, because I bought mine as a whole set, and I want
• 28:37
  to say maybe I paid only like twenty five for it, and that included
• 28:41
  shipping, so it's a very affordable set. But my favorite part of it
• 28:45
  is really it's got a great design on it, great photos, the great
• 28:51
  action photos overall. But the design has a nice little gold script on the
• 28:56
  front with their names, the clean white framing on the outside, and again
• 29:00
  kind of like Leaf Studio. It wasn't quite as thick as Leaf Studio,
• 29:03
  but it had a better card stock than tops in my opinion that there's a
• 29:07
  little bit of gloss and a little bit hefft. And then obviously it came
• 29:11
  with that Hallgraham on the back, that upper Deck Hallgraham. Getting into the
• 29:17
  photography a little bit though, I just kind of wanted to like rattle through
• 29:19
  a few of the cards that really like were my favorite from the set.
• 29:22
  Back in the day. You had the Kirby Pucket card from series two.
• 29:26
  It's him like doing the sliding catch and in spring training and the I don't
• 29:32
  even know how they got the photo because they had to like really zoom in
• 29:36
  and from like a nineties perspective, like it just kind of seems like it
• 29:40
  would have been a really tough shot. The Griffy card is really classic.
• 29:45
  It's just him kind of in a classic post swing pose. I love the
• 29:49
  Frank Thomas card. He's like trying to catch this pop out and foul territory
• 29:55
  and you can just like see how huge Frank Thomas is. The first card
• 30:02
  of the set that's like a bass card. That's not like the Inserty cards,
• 30:07
  because do you remember Upper Deck used to have like rookies and team cards
• 30:12
  and future prospects and stuff that kind of ran at the beginning of the series,
• 30:15
  So like those, they kind of bunched them all together. Yeah,
• 30:19
  you're right at the beginning of the series, which was kind of odd.
• 30:23
  Yeah, you know, everybody else is kind of put them with back or
• 30:26
  special numbering or something like that. He just jammed. I'm right at the
• 30:30
  front of the sets for sure. Yeah. So the first one in studio
• 30:34
  one that isn't one of those kind of pseudo inserts is George Brett. And
• 30:38
  like, this is another reason why I really like the ninety three UD set
• 30:42
  is because it's got a really good humor to it, because this George Brett
• 30:47
  card is just him, just like bent over and you're just like staring at
• 30:51
  George Brett's ass, like it's so ridiculous and like I can't believe that,
• 30:56
  like they're running a card like that. I think the other reason that they
• 31:00
  had a sense of humor is both Series one and Series two or four twenty
• 31:03
  four hundred and twenty cards, so like eight hundred and forty cards in total,
• 31:10
  but overall, like this was definitely, like I said, one of
• 31:14
  the junkiest junk sets really, like the only cards that are worth anything are
• 31:19
  these the gold Hollogram cards. They used to have parallels these gold Hollograms that
• 31:23
  they ran of the full series when you would buy them in the box,
• 31:30
  and every one and about I think fifteen is what I saw. About one
• 31:33
  in every fifteen was this gold foil on the back. The most expensive one
• 31:37
  of those is there is a Derek Jeter Rookie in these ninety three upper deck
• 31:41
  sets, So that Derek Jeter Rookie and the gold Foil is really the chase
• 31:47
  card of this entire set that you can if it comes in at ten or
• 31:51
  nine, like you're starting to look at four or five figures. But other
• 31:55
  than that, I mean, I don't think not even that Jeter Base Rookie
• 31:59
  card it's going to run you more than like two or three bucks. So
• 32:01
  it's a pretty affordable set and like really easy one to get into. Yeah,
• 32:07
  I think you're right, and there is something to be said. I
• 32:08
  think what you said earlier, the clean borders, there's something to be said.
• 32:13
  And I'm not a big guy on grading. I don't grade a lot
• 32:16
  or anything like that with cards, but there's something to be said for like
• 32:19
  that perfect centering with those those white borders, and you know what what that
• 32:23
  can bring to a card that just looks nice, um, and you don't
• 32:29
  see that as as much anymore. There's although just the standard borders, there's
• 32:31
  always a border of some some sipe usually but it's you know, got some
• 32:37
  wavy lines or it's got some insert on it. It's these those ones are
• 32:40
  just pure white border. It's like you made it an uh you know word
• 32:45
  and printed the filling off or was it was a word back in the day.
• 32:51
  I think there's still word back in the day. Yeah, so no,
• 32:53
  I love One of my favorite cards that said is the Ricky Henderson.
• 32:57
  Um you know it's where he's diving and I think it's third base. He's
• 33:00
  steal on third base and just dirts flying everywhere. I can't even see his
• 33:05
  eyes, how what's fallen over his face. But it does remind me of
• 33:08
  like I mentioned, Stadium Club or I mentioned again, it reminds me of
• 33:10
  that type of photography before Stadium Club was doing it, and that there's something
• 33:17
  cool to be said about that, especially nowadays where you see like the same
• 33:22
  photo guys used on like ten different cards throughout all kinds of different sets.
• 33:25
  Tops does it like crazy and he should go through terrible last year? And
• 33:30
  have you seen like the Josh Slows. I don't think they use more than
• 33:34
  one photo of Josh Slow. It's like Josh Slow like on second base,
• 33:37
  like calling for time out after a steel. It's on like every Josh Low
• 33:42
  card, every card. Yeah, there's some like database there at Tops,
• 33:45
  like and here's the favorite photos and there it was like first one use it
• 33:50
  right, It's like, who only took one photo of Josh lows here?
• 33:52
  Oh well so um, and that Ricky Henderson card is like also one of
• 34:00
  my favorites too. I mean I've still actually even got more. I didn't
• 34:02
  even get into, Like I'm so excited talking about ninety three Upper Deck that
• 34:07
  like there's also the Mark Lighter card. Mark Lighter Junior's dad has got a
• 34:13
  great card of like he just looks so sad, like a sad clown with
• 34:16
  a towel around his face. Like, um, you know the classic photo
• 34:20
  like the depression mom um yea, and that like I'll I'll link to it
• 34:25
  in all of our links. But like, yeah, the thing looks exactly
• 34:30
  like that the Mark Lighter just it's perfectly squared up and like again gets back
• 34:36
  to that sense of humor that it's almost like a post photo. But the
• 34:40
  absolutely like number one favorite card I didn't even like get into it yet is
• 34:46
  the Mike Perez card from the ninety three Upper Deck. Um, Mike Perez
• 34:52
  was a Saint Louis Cardinal's reliever back in the day, and I don't know
• 34:58
  could you look up his array broal fast, you can remember, we'll have
• 35:02
  to look at his teams too, so we can use them in Immaculate Gride
• 35:07
  here pretty soon. Um. But the but the recruit, he's got a
• 35:10
  recursive card where like they're taking a photo of him and he's looking down at
• 35:15
  and trying to sign the card that you're looking at. And so I don't
• 35:20
  know if they like took a photo before and then like planted it in there,
• 35:24
  or if they photoshop that in with like nineteen ninety three photoshop, but
• 35:30
  it's like one of the most mind bending cards ever and it's just like so
• 35:36
  hilarious. And the fact that if they're used Saint Louis Cardinals reliever Mike Perez
• 35:42
  for in his card is even better. That Like I don't know if there
• 35:45
  was an inn or it would be great. Maybe we'll have to have a
• 35:47
  pod in the future. That's just like purely the history of this Mike Perez
• 35:52
  nineteen ninety three Yapper deck card. That's just infamous. What's interesting is like
• 35:58
  you say, the stats there in ninety two right there, looking year the
• 36:01
  year prior, uh, ironically, his third year in the league, he
• 36:06
  was six in the Rookie of the Year voting. I don't know how that
• 36:08
  works. He had thirty total Indians the two years before. Like he just
• 36:15
  kept coming up and you know, pitching a little here, a little there,
• 36:19
  and then all of a sudden he had a one eighty four e RA
• 36:22
  across ninety three Indians and you know he was nine and three. Uh,
• 36:29
  he's had a fabulous year. But you go back to the time of you
• 36:31
  know, the nineties, it was not the strikeout the time it was today.
• 36:36
  He had a caper nine of four and a half. I don't know
• 36:43
  if there's anybody in the game today that has anything, you know, near
• 36:46
  near that. So I have to think, you know, and that he
• 36:51
  had like two good years in ninety two and ninety three, great years,
• 36:54
  and that's about it. You know, he was out of the league,
• 36:58
  you know, like six years later. Oh uh yeah, what are the
• 37:02
  teams have got in there? So people can use him in the immaculate grid
• 37:06
  going forward, Mike Frez, he started with the Cardinals. He had about
• 37:09
  five years of the Cardinals, but then he uh played for the Cubs for
• 37:14
  for two seasons and then he finished out with with the Kansas City Royals.
• 37:17
  Okay, So remember that he was there a good twenty innings with the with
• 37:23
  the with the Royals there at age thirty two, so he was a late
• 37:28
  late bloomer Rookie of the Year voting when he was twenty seven. I'm sorry,
• 37:32
  I'm still get to kick out of the fact that guys in the league
• 37:35
  for three years before he's still squalified for roy status. That is impressive that
• 37:39
  I don't maybe they didn't use like service days back in the day, that
• 37:45
  they only based it on innings, which is still like absurd that you'd do
• 37:49
  innings and not games or something as a reliever. Yeah, it's it's interesting
• 37:54
  now I I clarify he was six and and and I'LL Work of the Year
• 38:00
  voting he had two points. Yeah. Nice, So you know, I
• 38:07
  don't know. Yeah, it's it's a local beat writer in Saint Louis and
• 38:12
  gave him a single, you know vote. That was year Eric Carros won
• 38:15
  the I'll rook of the Year voting. Nice okay. Yeah. The other
• 38:22
  things about Upper Deck though, that like we didn't get into, is it's
• 38:27
  also the first set that had or like one of the first sets that had
• 38:31
  Marlins and Rockies cards in it, which was just like amazing all these spring
• 38:35
  training photos cards of them and seeing like your first look as a kid at
• 38:39
  the Rockies and Marlins who went like totally leaning into the nineties with the bright
• 38:45
  teal and the purple, and like as a kid, I bought that summer
• 38:52
  a Florida Marlins beach towel that I actually still have to this day that like
• 38:57
  it's uh made the Marlins, like, O don't I would say maybe like
• 39:01
  a top eight favorite team of mine or something, you know, like I
• 39:06
  have a soft spot for the Marlins because of it. But the sets also
• 39:09
  had like parallels where they had inaugural beer stamped on them. I know I
• 39:15
  have a few of them floating around, and I don't remember if they were
• 39:19
  sold like as sets like that or if they were inserts, but I think
• 39:23
  I always thought that was really cool too, was seeing like your first look
• 39:27
  at these dudes who came through in the expansion draft from the Marlins and Rockies
• 39:31
  and their total journeymen, but you thought that they were absolute heroes because they're
• 39:36
  part of these like inaugural franchises And I know, you know, we're going
• 39:42
  to go name the Hall of Famer that went through the expansion draft with with
• 39:49
  you know that nineteen ninety two expansion draft, one guy. Everybody else used
• 39:53
  a journeyman. I think I saw a few managers went through. Joejar he
• 40:00
  was drafted. Yeah, I think rent to Rio was drafted in that too.
• 40:05
  Yeah, I think I think you're right. So Eric Wedge was also.
• 40:10
  Yeah. I think we literally just drafted every future manager that could have
• 40:15
  been there. That's amazing. But I actually I do know the answer to
• 40:19
  this because it's a note that they had as like the one of the hot
• 40:22
  rookie cards from the said it's Trevor Hoffman. Trevor Hoffman the Marlins. That
• 40:27
  Yeah, he looks so goofy in a Marlin's uniform because you just like don't
• 40:31
  think of him starting his career with them or honestly every being a young band
• 40:37
  at all. Like it's like before he has the ridiculous old band goatee and
• 40:43
  steely eyes. So it's, uh, it's fun seeing those nine to ninety
• 40:47
  three Marlins Trevor Hoffman cards. Yeah, I mean it's interesting because you know
• 40:52
  he started out with the Reds since I had reads as as a hitter.
• 40:55
  Um, you know, they brought him up and then they you know,
• 41:00
  switched him over to be a pitcher, one of the best ideas name has
• 41:02
  ever had. Then they left him one protected and expansion to drafting. That's
• 41:07
  history. It sounds very much sounds like a Cincinnati read thing to do.
• 41:12
  Yeah, I mean, and they were coming off like they were good back
• 41:15
  then too, Like that's kind of crazy. Actually they're actually looking good now
• 41:21
  for the first time and in some time they were exciting team watched now as
• 41:24
  well. Yeah, there'll be some appointment futing for viewing for me here in
• 41:29
  the second half. I mean, you got to watch every Elliott bat you
• 41:31
  can after those three straight steals and yeah, it's kind of crazy. Cincinnati
• 41:37
  reds Man catch the fever one of my favorite things. So I went to
• 41:40
  one of the first games that Ellie played for his call up and it made
• 41:45
  me. I was watching him and he's playing next to Matt McClain, also
• 41:50
  another great young player. Doesn't you know he gets he's under the shadow of
• 41:53
  Ellie there a little bit. But you recall that picture of Aaron Judge and
• 41:59
  jose L two that standing like a second base where Judges just like towering overall
• 42:02
  two. Theay that's what it looked like on the field, you know,
• 42:06
  teammates standing next to each other. You have Della CRUs it's just giant and
• 42:09
  the Matt McLane looks like you or I just out there like somebody gave him
• 42:14
  glove today. Go play short see see what happens. You know. So,
• 42:17
  uh, it's it's a totally different styles, but it's it's it's that's
• 42:22
  a fun fun team to watch. Yeah, it will be. Uh,
• 42:25
  we're circling back to our favorite sets, any that you wanted to like quick
• 42:30
  hit or shout out, shout out real fast on like other sets that you
• 42:34
  love and kind of what you love about them, so that people can really
• 42:37
  get a flavor of what type of cards you're into. Yeah, I'll would
• 42:42
  call it one more set from the nineties going you know, going late nineteen
• 42:45
  ninety nine Upper Deck SP Signature Edition. Um, I don't you know that's
• 42:53
  a small set there. There's really two two different versions within that set where
• 42:58
  they have uh you know the uh, the fake signatures and the real signatures
• 43:01
  in that one. But it's a it's a really clean card. Each each
• 43:07
  one has has the players they're almost all you know, generally posed kind of
• 43:10
  players. There's a little bit you know of guys actually playing the majority kind
• 43:15
  of posed. Uh. Photos got a nice little team colors in the back,
• 43:20
  but this really nice clean white space where they had all the guys sign
• 43:24
  Uh. You know there's like there's probably one or two guys that's just a
• 43:27
  good and follow directions since they signed there on the spot. But you know,
• 43:30
  it's it's a very clean set. Um has some great names that you
• 43:35
  got, you know, Ken Griffey Junior, Frank Thomas um in there.
• 43:42
  Uh. And you know, for me being a Cardinals fan, uh JD.
• 43:45
  Drew, I love the JD Drew card in there. Um probably not
• 43:50
  what everybody collects, but I collect JD. Drew and so um that's h
• 43:54
  and I had a few Hall of famers in there. There's stand usual addition
• 43:59
  there uh autographed cards. So those are it's a great set. Uh,
• 44:04
  it's it's a little bit harder and to to to get um you can't find
• 44:08
  those very many places. And really the big chase card in that set was
• 44:15
  the Ken Griffy Junior. Uh, you know, not surprised the very very
• 44:21
  pretty signature that he that he had. Those ones can go for you know,
• 44:25
  crazy, crazy money, especially if you get something you know, the
• 44:30
  high grade on that you're talking you know, multiple hundreds, uh, chasing,
• 44:34
  chasing that one down. But for me, giving that flavor of the
• 44:37
  things I like, very clean cut cards, very good photography, and just
• 44:45
  kind of a unique take on especially in the nineties, having something that that
• 44:50
  was kind of a unique card set. It was it was like I said,
• 44:52
  clean, had some you know, very good shape to it, very
• 44:55
  good borders on it. So love that set. How how about you,
• 44:59
  U what else jumps out to you beyond beyond the ninety three upper deck?
• 45:04
  Yeah? I mean I always put together nowadays a set of the Stadium Club
• 45:12
  Chrome, which I guess I won't be anymore. So that's another probably future
• 45:15
  pod of a eulogy to Stadium Club as we both have loved it so much
• 45:21
  over the years that I can't believe that Tops has decided to just continue it,
• 45:24
  But especially the twenty twenty Top Stadium Club Chrome set that came out right
• 45:30
  in the heart of pandemic that like, I got back into collecting cards during
• 45:36
  the pandemic and along with millions and millions of other people, but that set
• 45:40
  was just so much fun. To open. The photography is maybe the best
• 45:45
  of any set that's ever really been put out there, and it's really kind
• 45:50
  of shown and some of the values live started popping on those cards over time.
• 45:53
  The base one Soto is him doing his shuffle and it was a card
• 45:59
  that is just a common card back in the day, now worth twenty thirty
• 46:02
  bucks. The Otani has popped. It's an Otani card where he is.
• 46:07
  It's just like a great aerial view of him and the dirt and prepping to
• 46:13
  hit a pitch that's coming in. And I've got a really nice X factor
• 46:15
  of that that I'll link a picture to it. But it's a beautiful card.
• 46:21
  And that one's also been popping off in value. It's around thirty dollars
• 46:24
  now as well. That it's kind of crazy. Those are just base cards
• 46:30
  that, like, you never see these things go for. I mean,
• 46:32
  I can't move some of the dupes that I have for more than like ten
• 46:37
  cents a piece in a lot, So to get that kind of value out
• 46:39
  of a base is insane. And I really enjoyed ripping it back in the
• 46:45
  day. It treated me well. I got in of fifty gold Soto Shuffle
• 46:50
  Parallel that I sold for big money. I've got my number one piece of
• 46:57
  my PC that a big portion of my PC is Otani cards, and it's
• 47:00
  a Otani of ten power Zone Auto cards, so that thing is my baby.
• 47:07
  But it also I also have a Randyo Rosarina parallel Rookie sitting around from
• 47:12
  that set too that I haven't looked up the value of that in a while,
• 47:15
  but I'm sure it's skyrocketed as well, because the Randeo Rosarrena card is
• 47:20
  also beautiful. They're just all really really great cards, even going back to
• 47:23
  the Hall of Fame ones that sometimes when you get these Hall of Fame cards
• 47:29
  in the modern sets of like archives and Heritage and stuff, and it's just
• 47:34
  like a random Honus Wagner or something, it's not really quite as impressive.
• 47:40
  But like it really looks great on these Stadium Club chrome cards that they did
• 47:45
  a really great job with them, and it's going to be really sad that
• 47:47
  I'm not going to be able to rip a twenty twenty three set of it.
• 47:52
  Yeah, I've always liked the Perils, especially that secon Right. It
• 47:54
  was it was the pandemic set. It was definitely except for folks there I
• 48:00
  did not get a lot of that set, regretfully, Um, I would
• 48:07
  like to rip some more of that one. But I really love the perils
• 48:09
  that they haven't there. Uh, it's it's different than what you see was
• 48:13
  you know some other sets where the parallels are I would say overpowering to degree.
• 48:17
  You know, you got the green parallel, you got the purple parallel.
• 48:22
  I mean, it's amazing the order parallels we've got now, but all
• 48:27
  of theirs are just a little subtle, right, You've got like the orange
• 48:30
  paril is just like a tent of orange in the you know, the chrome,
• 48:35
  the same of the gold. It's just a tent of that. Or
• 48:37
  you got the checkerbird a ward of the X factors, like it still keeps
• 48:42
  that integrity of that photo, but it's just got a little X or something.
• 48:45
  So I think that they did a really good job in that way.
• 48:47
  And I don't know why they why they discontinued this set doesn't make a whole
• 48:52
  lot of sense to me, But I don't either, Like it's generally well
• 48:58
  regarded as a great rip, like I think they make a decent amount of
• 49:00
  money off of it. Like I would rather see things like archives and Gypsy
• 49:06
  Queen and Heritage. I don't think they can cut anymore, but like I
• 49:09
  would rather have Stadium Club over Heritage. Like it's kind of crazy that,
• 49:14
  Like I know, the cards haven't like been quite as valuable outside of the
• 49:20
  twenty twenty chrome set that like the regular bass doesn't hold up as well.
• 49:25
  But like for true card collectors and people who love ripping cards like us,
• 49:30
  like it's doesn't get any better. The photos are fantastic, and like the
• 49:36
  stats and blurbs on the back are hilarious and just like it's a it's the
• 49:40
  best card experience that you can get out of just really kind of basic Series
• 49:45
  one, Series two, I think, Yeah, absolutely agree. It's a
• 49:50
  shame, but that's where we're at. Well, yeah, sorry to leave
• 49:54
  this conversation off on a sad note there, but I will be bad with
• 50:00
  our draft of our pitching prospects now, so stay tuned and we'll be back
• 50:05
  shortly after this break. All right, welcome back to our last portion here
• 50:30
  of Cardon's categories. We're going to get into going through our favorite pitching prospects
• 50:34
  to come up for the rest of the year. So I think we both
• 50:37
  know that everyone's probably been gutted out of the miners at this point, it's
• 50:42
  been a huge year for pitching prospects coming up between first Mason Miller and Bryce
• 50:46
  Miller and A. J. Smith Shaffer and Logan Allen, who are both
• 50:52
  down again, but you also have Bobby Miller. I got all the Millers,
• 50:57
  right, Ury Perez, Gavin Williams, Tas Bradley, Andrew Abbott Brando.
• 51:06
  Yeah, yeah, Um, there's not much left in the miners at
• 51:12
  this point, but we thought that it would be good to go through what
• 51:15
  is left in the miners and and take stabs at who we think will come
• 51:20
  up and make an impact by picking a three round draft, so six picks
• 51:25
  in total, we'll go back and forth and then I'll tabulate and at the
• 51:30
  end of the year we'll kind of accumulate the Rhodos stats and kind of see
• 51:34
  who won quote unquote. So it might be a little difficult because some of
• 51:38
  these guys might not be seeing beginnings, but hopefully they come up and give
• 51:43
  us some good ratios. So, um, Jeremy Brew, I'll let you
• 51:46
  take the first pick in this draft. The floor is yours, all right.
• 51:51
  Well, I really think there's there's two ways to go here. Right,
• 51:52
  there's there's do you go with the guys you think you're gonna get called
• 51:55
  up and and spend a lot of time in the second half of the roster,
• 51:59
  or do you go big? Do you go big for the bigger names
• 52:01
  that might make it up and but when they do, they're gonna be electric.
• 52:06
  Uh. And for for first pick, that's where I'm going. I'm
• 52:08
  going with the electric arm. I'm going Ricky Tiedeman uh for for the Blue
• 52:13
  Jays. Uh. You know, the twenty year old. Uh, he's
• 52:19
  a youngster to me. You know, he would have debuted already this season
• 52:23
  if it hadn't been for injury issues. Um. He has had some arm
• 52:28
  issues. He has some biceps issues this this season. Um. He's he
• 52:31
  has made I think fourth starts down the miners now growing a ridiculous sixteen k
• 52:38
  per nine um, which you know is just just crazy. Uh. Generally
• 52:44
  has has good uh good control, you know, more of a three walk
• 52:49
  three three, three and a half walk for nine type of guy. Um.
• 52:52
  And he's really kind of what you what you look for as far as
• 52:55
  a prototypical frontline starter. For me, when I'm looking at uh pictures,
• 53:00
  especially ones that are coming up, They're gonna be reliable. You know,
• 53:04
  I'm looking for for three things. It's strikeouts, walks not having a lot
• 53:08
  of them, It's it's it's low walks, and then it's groundballs. I'm
• 53:14
  always looking for that guy, and Teven chucks chucks the board across all of
• 53:19
  those. Last year in double A, he didn't have a whole ton of
• 53:23
  innings, but he had over sixty percent ground ball rate um when he you
• 53:29
  know, the rest of the season, he was about forty five percent uh
• 53:31
  in in single in high A. So definitely a guy that has legitimate upside,
• 53:39
  fastball, slider change guy. You know, I think we see him
• 53:43
  for a cameo this season. I think just today I saw them say that,
• 53:47
  Hey, they think about three weeks he'll be back on the mountain throwing.
• 53:52
  So we might be getting tight here. Uh you know, he might
• 53:55
  be thrown here in August, but I'm hoping for a September call up.
• 53:59
  I'm I'm thinking he's might be the guy that comes in from the bullpen.
• 54:02
  All of David Price back in the day, Adam Waynwright back in the day.
• 54:07
  Waynwright doesn't have the same power powered curve maybe, but not the same
• 54:14
  power you know, guy bringing it upper ninety sec guys sixty four two two
• 54:17
  twenty Yeah, what I wish I was. So I'm going rickety human first.
• 54:22
  Overall, there there's some risk in this pick because you know, they
• 54:25
  might be cautious with them and I might be taking a big egg on my
• 54:31
  first overall pick. But I'm going with the upside of who I believe is
• 54:36
  the probably the best pitcher still left in the minors. Yeah, I don't
• 54:43
  think I hadn't really blame you for that pick though. I mean, given
• 54:46
  the list of people that we rattled off that have been called up, there's
• 54:50
  not too many high end impact arms left and so um, especially if the
• 54:54
  Jays are looking to make a deadline deal, like maybe just do it with
• 55:00
  and let him go after he gets back, because yeah, I did also
• 55:04
  see that today that it looks like he's three weeks away, and I mean
• 55:07
  he was really close to breaking camp anyway, So I don't think that's a
• 55:12
  bad pick for my pick. I think I'm gonna have to go with Kyle
• 55:19
  Harrison. He's been wobbly, has a laid down in triple A that like
• 55:27
  he really has only been going like three or four innings pern outing because it's
• 55:32
  not like a stamina thing. It's he's hitting his cap on pitches because he's
• 55:37
  just like so great that like he either striking everybody out or walking everybody.
• 55:45
  So he's not being efficient with his pitches and he's kind of struggling with that
• 55:49
  control right now. But his stuff is significantly huge that like nobody can touch
• 55:54
  it down in triple A right now. He's got a fourteen seven K nine
• 55:58
  in triple A over fifty six and the third innings in seventeen starts right now
• 56:02
  that does come with a seven h three walk uper nine, So that's a
• 56:08
  little brutal. But he's just I mean, I don't know how he's gonna
• 56:14
  really be touched if he comes up when you're paying that many guys, and
• 56:19
  like it's just such nasty stuff that like I think a lot like Teetman,
• 56:23
  he could be appearing out of the bullpen or appearing as a follower from an
• 56:29
  opener, because John Brebbia and a few others down there in San Francisco really
• 56:35
  have taken pretty well to that opener role and handing it off to miscellaneous people
• 56:40
  that like there's tons of people that they got ready to go in that bullpen.
• 56:45
  So if you can bring a left handed arm, I think, just
• 56:47
  like the Blue Jays, the Giants are in the thick of a wildcard race,
• 56:52
  so they're just looking for anybody they can get, and the trade deadline
• 56:55
  is not going to offer very many arms. So bring up somebody like Harrison
• 57:00
  seeing what he can give you. I think that's, uh, that's the
• 57:04
  route I'm gonna go. Hopefully that maybe those major league pictures can find some
• 57:08
  control for him too. Yeah, I think, you know, I like
• 57:14
  to pick you know, to your point there we are bottom of the barrel
• 57:17
  to a certain degree here with what's left. He is one of the nastiest
• 57:21
  pictures in the miners. I don't know that he knows where it's going sometimes,
• 57:25
  but uh he does. He's a little homework prone. But if there's
• 57:30
  a place to do that at San Francisco, actually that's that's a good ballpark
• 57:34
  for it. And I I my best guess is he's coming out of the
• 57:38
  bullpen, uh later later in the season. Uh he. I think he's
• 57:43
  cracked five innings once in the Miners this year, so I don't I don't
• 57:46
  think he's gonna go deep into games by by any means. But but yeah,
• 57:52
  that's the he's the kind he's the guy you call him. He's the
• 57:57
  guy you call for, Uh, if you're trying to get out of a
• 58:00
  jam and like it's strikeout or nothing, type of type of guy. He's
• 58:04
  either gonna walk the guy in or he's gonna strike him out like he's so
• 58:07
  he's I can see him with that bullpen roll. Yeah, and that June
• 58:12
  fifteenth start that if you remember, that's when there was a little clamoring about
• 58:15
  whether or not he was going to come up, because that's when he went
• 58:19
  against the sugar Land. Are they still the Skeeters? I think I think
• 58:22
  it's the sugar Land Skeeters, the Houston Triple A team. Five innings,
• 58:27
  eight k's, one homer, two earned earned the win. But then the
• 58:32
  next next outing just at all fell apart, gave up seven earned in two
• 58:37
  and a thirds and it has really struggled since. So we'll see if he
• 58:40
  can put it back together. And it's possible that they have him working on
• 58:44
  something related to his control because it has been reeled in a little bit better
• 58:49
  that you can see if you're going through his game logs, like back in
• 58:52
  April, he's walking three to four per an outing and out it's down closer
• 58:57
  to like one two three. So there might be something in the works there,
• 59:02
  yep, might be. And he's one of those guys that if he
• 59:05
  figures that piece out, he's scary. Exactly. He's probably scary as it
• 59:08
  is for a hitter because I like, I don't think he knows where it's
• 59:12
  going, but he could be scary for a different reason he figures out that
• 59:15
  that control. Okay, I'll pass it over you for a year. Second
• 59:19
  pick, All right, well, I am going to continue my trend here
• 59:23
  of high risk, high reward, and I am going with number one overall
• 59:29
  pick Paul Skeins out of LSU. Granted we talked about earlier. You can't
• 59:34
  pick him up right now, he hasn't signed. But a guy to watch.
• 59:40
  UM. Yeah, I probably don't need to cover him too much because
• 59:44
  if you've been watching the draft you kind of know what he is. But
• 59:46
  just I would rat off a few few numbers here, you know, six,
• 59:51
  six, two thirty five. He is an imposing force. Um This
• 59:55
  year for LSU, he had a one sixty nine year point seven five whip
• 1:00:01
  and two hundred and nine strikeouts in one twenty two innings. He walked twenty
• 1:00:06
  guys and one hundred and twenty two innings. It was he was impressive.
• 1:00:13
  I think he was in the College World Series that over one of the starts
• 1:00:16
  he averaged ninety nine seven on his his fastball throughout the entire you know,
• 1:00:22
  through the entirety of the game. There's only two guys that have done that
• 1:00:27
  this season in the majors, Hunter Green and Bobby Miller. So I think
• 1:00:32
  he is if there's gonna be any guy that's gonna go straight to the majors,
• 1:00:37
  I don't think it's gonna happen because I think that the pirates are gonna
• 1:00:40
  pay pension and they're probably gonna develop him or something. I don't know how
• 1:00:45
  you justify it, but he is the most exciting pitcher that's come out of
• 1:00:50
  the draft probably since Steven Strasburg, you know, almost fifteen years ago.
• 1:00:55
  And as much as you know, exciting guys came out last year, like
• 1:00:59
  Benji Voice, I think, you know, Skemes is like Ben Joyce with
• 1:01:02
  an extra pitch and control. So he's like, you know, Joyce is
• 1:01:07
  scary good. Um, if he can get it right. Schemes looks like
• 1:01:10
  he already knows. What's do I think can get out Mahdi hitters today?
• 1:01:14
  So going with my my second pick, third overall, Paul Skeins of the
• 1:01:19
  Pittsburgh Pirates, not of the LSU Tigers anymore. And I'm hoping that at
• 1:01:25
  least one of my first two picks actually pitches this year. Yeah, that
• 1:01:30
  would be that would be beneficial for this draft. I'm playing the rate the
• 1:01:35
  rate numbers here Roda wise, I'm going for low r a whip. You're
• 1:01:37
  gonna beat me in k's and everything there, But I'm gonna have the rate
• 1:01:45
  stats for the three gettings I get. Yeah, and I mean yeah,
• 1:01:49
  schemes looks great. It'll be interesting to see what they do with and they
• 1:01:52
  I mean, he had a big load at LSU in terms of workload,
• 1:01:55
  and they really relied on him heavily down on the stretch for that College World
• 1:02:00
  Series win. So I don't know, Yeah, maybe they want to put
• 1:02:05
  um not too much more mileage on that arm, but at the end of
• 1:02:08
  the day too, like I don't know. Actually, the Pirates kind of
• 1:02:12
  slid into the All Star break which didn't help that. I think that there's
• 1:02:15
  a stereo that if the Pirates are within five games at the NL Central at
• 1:02:20
  the break that like they the temptation to bring him up, like honestly at
• 1:02:25
  the end of the month would be sitting there for them. But yeah,
• 1:02:31
  yeah, it would be great to see him come out, just because I
• 1:02:35
  think there's a good chance that like he's going to be a part of the
• 1:02:37
  rotation of twenty twenty four. Yep, he's gonna be exciting one to watch.
• 1:02:42
  So if you're in a Dynasty League, um invest heavily. I'm sure
• 1:02:46
  that I'm gonna try to do the same as as you will do as well.
• 1:02:52
  All Right, my picks, the cliff has really fallen off because I'm
• 1:02:57
  looking at like the list to the guys that I could take, and all
• 1:03:04
  of them have the works for sure in terms of either flaws from skills perspective,
• 1:03:10
  or just not quite the upside. I think I'm gonna go with Ben
• 1:03:17
  Brown, another big old dude. He comes in at six six, two
• 1:03:23
  ten and it's just lanky, lanky, linky. So it's a really big
• 1:03:29
  reason that he's got a six point one flock rate in triple A right now.
• 1:03:32
  I'm just like, man, my dudes are going to be real good
• 1:03:36
  at walking in the yard, but they're gonna strike your way out too.
• 1:03:38
  Because he's currently got a thirteen point three K nine down in Iowa for the
• 1:03:43
  Cubs, and he should really be the next one up. He's taken a
• 1:03:46
  corner after being traded over from the Phillies. And I do think that the
• 1:03:52
  Cubs are going to move Stroman at the deadline, that I think they're going
• 1:03:54
  to try to get the value out of him now and really throwing the towel
• 1:04:00
  in the white flag out from underneath this team and David Ross that like,
• 1:04:04
  I just don't think the front office is quite ready, and that they're gonna
• 1:04:10
  retool, send Stroman out, get a few more prospects, and kind of
• 1:04:13
  run it back next year with kind of figuring out a little bit of their
• 1:04:16
  corners a little bit and giving morel a little seasoning that if you want to
• 1:04:21
  give people seasoning, Ben Brown's a man that definitely needs it. He's got
• 1:04:25
  a little bit of a homer rate issue down in Triple A right now,
• 1:04:29
  two at one six, But who doesn't in the International League right now,
• 1:04:33
  And so I'd really love his strikeout upside, Like Steamer right now has them
• 1:04:39
  penciled in for nine point nine K nine and three eight r RA if he
• 1:04:43
  were to get called up. And I do think that, like there's probably
• 1:04:46
  a little bit of a stalling out that happened in Triple A this year,
• 1:04:49
  just because like he was looking really good in Double A and Single A and
• 1:04:54
  looked like he was going to make his debut in July. Possibly that taking
• 1:04:59
  that st back and kind of being stuck there probably isn't terribly encouraging. But
• 1:05:03
  I think there's a good chance that he turns the corner and once a rotation
• 1:05:06
  spot comes open around the deadline, Ben Brown could be sitting in it and
• 1:05:11
  throwing games in Wrigley and being interesting the jock's position between the big fastball that
• 1:05:17
  Ben Brown brings from his six six frame versus like Kyle Hendricks. If you
• 1:05:23
  have to face those guys on like back to back days, it's got to
• 1:05:25
  be a huge whiplash for fact on the opposing batters. So Ben Brown I
• 1:05:30
  like him a lot. I think he's I like the pick, and I
• 1:05:36
  do think you're right that kind of like comes last year with like Hayden was
• 1:05:40
  Newski. They called him out late in the year, like to try to
• 1:05:43
  figure out what they have. I don't see Brown as like a frontline starter
• 1:05:48
  at the end of the day. He's to me as a three, you
• 1:05:51
  know, maybe the upside of a two. But I think they want to
• 1:05:56
  figure out what they got and kind of playing for the future, and so
• 1:06:00
  he's not the guy that they're gonna try to be playing a lot of service
• 1:06:01
  time, you know, monkeying with with that or anything like that. So
• 1:06:06
  good pick. I like it, all right, your last pick got a
• 1:06:11
  lot of risk here. Yeah, you want to get some innings. Now,
• 1:06:13
  I'm gonna get some innings my last pick here, so um, I
• 1:06:15
  am going with for my last pick, pick number five overall, Connor Phillips
• 1:06:21
  Cincinnati Reds. Um, you know, a few things to go in this.
• 1:06:26
  Phillips has has been pretty nasty this year in uh in the minors.
• 1:06:31
  He just got called up to Triple A two weeks ago something like that.
• 1:06:35
  He's got two U two starts in Triple A, a whole six two thirds
• 1:06:41
  of innings, so you know, let's put a lot of stock in those
• 1:06:44
  stats. But yep, new Ball he had sixty five innings down in double
• 1:06:54
  A, you know, over fifteen case per nine, walks, three seven
• 1:06:59
  six, very reasonable. So definitely a guy that looks like he has some
• 1:07:05
  Indians. The Reds have shown this year that they're willing to call guys up.
• 1:07:09
  They are going for it with Andrew Abbog getting called up, and I
• 1:07:12
  think they're one of those teams that basically looks at the Miners says, if
• 1:07:15
  you're playing, well, we're gonna call you up because we've got spots.
• 1:07:17
  Well, you know, there's there's not a lot in that Red's rotation that's
• 1:07:20
  really gonna hold them back. They can easily, you know, cycle some
• 1:07:26
  guys in and dry them out. So Connor Phillips is where I'm going.
• 1:07:29
  I think he's got some good potential, not necessarily be the frontline guy,
• 1:07:34
  but he's proven pretty well the Miners so far this season, and I think
• 1:07:41
  the Reds are gonna call him up probably here, i'd say, with him
• 1:07:44
  the next month, and he's gonna probably get a good two months of games
• 1:07:47
  and he's gonna he's gonna score some points for me. Yeah. I mean,
• 1:07:53
  I think the nice thing about him too is even if they don't want
• 1:07:57
  to move him into the rotation like he's going to be a great bullpen armed
• 1:08:00
  down the stretch, and so he stretched out, he can go a couple
• 1:08:03
  innings. He can really provide some great work down the stretch for them to
• 1:08:09
  roll into the playoffs and maybe get him comfortable that it might be a big
• 1:08:12
  Connor Phillips coming out party here this fall. Yep, I'm excited to see
• 1:08:15
  you. So he's running out my rotation and he might be my workhorse as
• 1:08:19
  we as we as we tally this up later later this year, that would
• 1:08:24
  be great. Okay, So my last pick, the last pick of the
• 1:08:29
  draft, I think, oh you know what, I think, I'm gonna
• 1:08:33
  hedge my bet in San Francisco. I'm gonna go with Carson wizzen Hunt,
• 1:08:38
  the other lefty. And so what brings Carson wizen Hunt to the table is
• 1:08:44
  he's not quite as big as these the guys that we've been discussing. Is
• 1:08:47
  six three two o nine. But he's got just a filthy, filthy,
• 1:08:51
  filthy changeup bet um fan graphs, Eric Long can hang. His fan graphs
• 1:08:57
  has a sixty on it right now with a seventy future, and that's his
• 1:09:00
  main calling card that all the reports out of double A have been really good
• 1:09:05
  that he's been throwing well a guy with another guy with a walk issue.
• 1:09:11
  He's got seven to one walks per nine right now in double A, but
• 1:09:15
  he was at two eight in single AY, so I'm not totally sure,
• 1:09:20
  like if they're trying to work on something with him, or you can also
• 1:09:24
  see that he's getting babbit to death down in double A. He's got a
• 1:09:28
  three fifty seven babbit. But he is a little bit more of a flyball
• 1:09:31
  guy. Probably, it's a little tough to tell, just because he's not
• 1:09:36
  having too much stats, you know, so far, and so like I
• 1:09:41
  think he will end up being a flyball guy. But if he can keep
• 1:09:44
  that change up down, work off the change and it's really as great as
• 1:09:47
  everyone says, Like, I think I like this pick too because it really
• 1:09:51
  hedges that one of them, between Harrison and lizzen Hunt, I think is
• 1:09:56
  going to be in that San Francisco bullpen or rotate. They're just kind of
• 1:10:01
  mix of all of the pitching that they do here within the next month or
• 1:10:04
  two, so one of them from the left side's gonna walk in there,
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  and it's a matter of who's going to be ready. So especially you think
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  Alex Wood has been pitching for two or three months or like weeks straight,
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  he's probably about due for another aisle sin. So I love me, I
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  love me some alex Wood. I missed the old Atlanta Braves Alex Wood.
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  That funky delivery, that thing was golden. Who would have thought? Who
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  would have thought his Tasmanian devil like delivery would mess up his back? A
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  shocker? So yeah, I'm gonna go with my second Giants guy Parson wizzen
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  Hunt. So I think those are the guys that we were looking for and
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  really wanted to put our name too for the draft. But any other dudes
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  that you were looking at and really considering, and you wouldn't be surprised if
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  they make us look dumb here. Yeah, well, I think that there's
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  a high likelihood that I looked done with some of my picks here. But
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  you know, as I look at some of the other names there, you
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  know there there's still some good talent in the miners. Uh, guys that
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  aren't gonna make it up this year. Guys have been injured like a Max
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  Meyer, Daniel spino Um, those kind of guys. But other guys that
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  might make it up. Um come back from injury. Andrew Painter for the
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  Phillies. Uh, if if he gets if he gets back healthy and there
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  in the thick of it. Uh, he's got a ton of talent um,
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  you know. For for me, another interesting one that I could see
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  making it up at the end of the year. Here, Spencer Eric Getty
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  for the Astros. Uh. You know he's a he's you know, pretty
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  done pretty well in the miners for them, just a solid overall profile.
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  Is not gonna guy to blow you away. He's just he's in the guy
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  that can't get you inniings. Uh, he's already got seventy innings and under
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  him has felt this this season. You know, eleven K or nine type
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  guy. He's just gonna be solid. And you know, Houston seems to
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  do well with those kind of guys when they call him up so um and
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  then the wild card, I'm gonna throw the wild card at you. Um.
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  As far as a guy that might might raise some eyebrows here, but
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  I'm gonna keep an eye on him. Blake Walston for the Arizona Diamondbacks.
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  When you call out a guy that has got a six gaper nine uh and
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  and almost a six walk per nine with a you know, x fip of
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  seven. Probably not the guy you're thinking of, but um, you know,
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  Arizona's got a you know, I think that teams in a reno.
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  It's like, uh, you know, bandbox there the balls flying out of
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  the park. Every Diamondbacks pitcher that's gone through Triple A there just gets gets
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  reamed. And the Diamondbacks showed the the willingness to call guys up last year
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  with Right Nelson, with Drey Jamison. Um, and I think Walston,
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  you know, he he looks the numbers look bad in Triple A, but
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  in Double A he was a nine uh or nine guy. And throughout every
• 1:13:06
  season the minors will the last four years, he's never walked more than three
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  and a half guys nine. Um, he's he's always been, you know,
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  forties groundball rate. So he's got some good stuff there. I think
• 1:13:18
  he's just being hidden by the crazy hitter environment that they have their with their
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  with their Triple A club. So there's my sleeper, my my deep,
• 1:13:27
  deep sleeper that we might see for two years. But it's I'm I had
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  to pick one from the depths. So what about you. Is there any
• 1:13:35
  names that are the you're watching that might might surprise. Yeah, I mean
• 1:13:41
  I think a little bit of like categories are coming onto in terms of like
• 1:13:45
  groupings of these guys that there is a few that are high first round draft
• 1:13:53
  picks in the past that just have kind of like a solid repertoire and might
• 1:13:57
  give some of the innings that are that are draft East didn't might not put
• 1:14:01
  up here going forward. One is Quinn Priester, the other's Emerson Hancock,
• 1:14:05
  and then the last one's Michael McGreevey for the Cardinals. So I should have
• 1:14:10
  also said Priester is on the Pirates and Handcocks on Seattle. So I especially
• 1:14:15
  like Handcocks just because for Seattle they're on the outside of the race right now,
• 1:14:23
  but they're still hanging in the wild card and he could definitely be in
• 1:14:27
  that mix to for a call up. Quinn Priester, he's just been solid
• 1:14:31
  and indie this year. Like, I don't think he's anything special. He's
• 1:14:34
  kind of like a three four starter and in a little bit of an any
• 1:14:38
  eater, but he should be able to walk into Pittsburgh at some point this
• 1:14:44
  year just to I would think to see what they got going into next year
• 1:14:46
  and maybe see if they want to move them in the off season or keep
• 1:14:50
  them around. Michael McGreevey's honestly maybe the best pitcher right now in the Cardinals
• 1:14:57
  system, like up and down, in terms of just like solid performance.
• 1:15:01
  He's not a strikeout wizzard at all or anything like that, but he's just
• 1:15:06
  been performing like he's getting out and that's more than most of the other Cardinals
• 1:15:12
  pitchers and the Majors or Triple A can say right now. So I think,
• 1:15:16
  especially Mosaileac was talking today that they're going to be trading multiple pieces away,
• 1:15:21
  and McGreevey has been the best performer for them in Triple A so far
• 1:15:26
  that I think he's going to get a shot. The other one that I
• 1:15:30
  was considering for my last pick that to go with your Paul Skeins pick and
• 1:15:36
  a little bit with the Connor Phillips is Rhet Louder getting picked for the Reds
• 1:15:41
  really popped out for me and during the draft that Rhet Louder had a really
• 1:15:45
  solid season at wake Forest and was a top ten projected pick pretty much all
• 1:15:50
  year. Cincinnati popped him at I think eight was it eight or nine or
• 1:15:56
  something, and so it's pretty evident right off bat that, Like, if
• 1:16:00
  there's any team that's drafting for need, it's the Cincinnati Reds because that back
• 1:16:05
  into the rotation and the back into that bullpen is brutal. And if they
• 1:16:10
  want to put pieces together to compete in October and in the playoffs, I
• 1:16:15
  think Rehet Ladder might be there. I think he might be down there down
• 1:16:17
  the stretch and make his debut this year. That he should be a fast
• 1:16:21
  mover. The only thing I'm gonna argue with you here is Michael mcgrieview is
• 1:16:27
  not the best arm and that cardinal system is take hints the best arm in
• 1:16:30
  that in that system. But yeah, he's not coming up this year.
• 1:16:33
  I mean yeah, in terms of steady performance and isn't like going out and
• 1:16:38
  giving up three bombs and walk in the yard. Uma, what were you
• 1:16:42
  trying to say? We got Hints has a single start at double au.
• 1:16:46
  So yeah, I don't think he's coming. He's not coming up this year.
• 1:16:50
  He'll be I'm sure he's an interesting one. Just that wire he's only
• 1:16:54
  twenty, uh you know that wiry kind of small almost makes me think of
• 1:16:59
  Tim lens, I'm gonna way like there's a smaller guy that just just has
• 1:17:02
  a rocket for an arm. So I just had to argue with you on
• 1:17:05
  the lacking with greedy. But yeah, great, great picks, great great
• 1:17:10
  assessment. You're right the miners are drying up from a pitching perspective, but
• 1:17:15
  there's still some opportunity at there. Yeah, and especially like if you consider
• 1:17:18
  where this was a couple months ago and how many options you had, like
• 1:17:24
  you couldn't go wrong, and so like it's going to be really tough,
• 1:17:27
  I think trying to find people down the stretch, but hopefully we've brought up
• 1:17:30
  some good names for people to try to pop and stash on their benches.
• 1:17:35
  Anything else that you wanted to add on these pitching arms, No, I
• 1:17:41
  think we got I said no, and then I said yes, right,
• 1:17:43
  the one I want to call out Marlin's demoting Yury Perez Um. Okay,
• 1:17:48
  I struggle with this one. I know ei they're doing it. They're trying
• 1:17:53
  to save any trying to save the guy's arm, but you know, he
• 1:17:58
  he who was looking dominance, and I think it's a hard thing to to
• 1:18:03
  send them down. I guess maybe they're hoping that they're in the in the
• 1:18:06
  race late in the year and he can come up and make it happen.
• 1:18:09
  But to me, if you if you don't get there, it doesn't matter.
• 1:18:14
  And so I'm hopeful that they just send them down over the break here,
• 1:18:17
  you know, gave maybe kind them on a regular schedule, calling back
• 1:18:21
  up here in a few weeks, just to kind of relax that arm a
• 1:18:25
  little bit. But you know, there are still still some good arms and
• 1:18:29
  the miners, uh, but some of them there for funny reasons. Yeah,
• 1:18:33
  And obviously you've got a J. Smith Schaffer and Logan Allen down there
• 1:18:36
  right now, but they wouldn't have qualified for this draft because they've already debuted.
• 1:18:41
  So I mean, I think those are also great minor league arms to
• 1:18:44
  hold onto in the vein of your perez, but several notches worse. Yeah.
• 1:18:50
  Yeah, and that's no slight on them, that's just how good Uri
• 1:18:55
  Perezz has been. Yeah, exactly. Um So yeah, put that,
• 1:18:58
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• 1:19:02
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• 1:19:09
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• 1:19:13
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• 1:19:16
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• 1:19:21
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• 1:19:27
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• 1:19:31
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• 1:19:34
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