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E.V.Podcast Ep. 4 | Jaguars 2025 Offseason Review w/ Boselli, Coen & Gladstone · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Sean made my dream come true when he named me
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  Speaker 1: executive vice president of Football Operations.
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  Speaker 2: That's a guy I want to be in the bunker with.
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  Speaker 2: You know, his passion for the Jaguars, his support that
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  Speaker 2: he shows right off the bat. You know, it's contagious.
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  Speaker 3: Tony taking over.
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  Speaker 1: His EVP impacts not only the coach.
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  Speaker 3: But also impacts the front office.
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  Speaker 1: So look, he's in a very important and prominent role.
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  Speaker 2: There's some real, real wisdom, support and you know, security
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  Speaker 2: when you're with him.
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  Speaker 3: At the end of the day.
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  Speaker 1: That's all I care about that James Gladstone and Lamb
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  Speaker 1: Cohen have success.
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  Speaker 3: Tony was born for best. All right, Welcome into Vic
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  Speaker 3: Sweet's EV podcast, and I am here with the triumvirant,
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  Speaker 3: if you will, Jaguars executive I always have to get
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  Speaker 3: through this Executive vice President of Football Operations and the
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  Speaker 3: longest title in the NFL, Tony Visalak head coach Sam
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  Speaker 3: Cohen and general manager James Gladston. We're just said it.
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  Speaker 3: I guess sort of here to wrap up the off season.
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  Speaker 3: I guess the first thing I want to know is,
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  Speaker 3: after two months working together, you guys, the dynamic has
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  Speaker 3: been so good. Uh, Tony, I guess you start, it's
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  Speaker 3: your podcast. Uh, tell me about the dynamic of working
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  Speaker 3: with these two.
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  Speaker 1: Well, until yesterday, it was really good. Hit a snag,
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  Speaker 1: hit a snag. James decided. We played one on one basketball, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and very poor match. I mean it was brutal.
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  Speaker 3: Neither of us won.
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  Speaker 1: James, if you would have looked at us by.
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  Speaker 3: The end of it, it was a bad everybody's a winner,
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  Speaker 3: noon a loser.
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  Speaker 1: James one on the scoreboard, which was fine. It's a
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  Speaker 1: good competition. The head coach on national to me to
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  Speaker 1: let the whole nation that James meet me in one one.
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  Speaker 1: So there's a division going on right now.
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  Speaker 3: You work with quickness, agility, Did he go inside? Did
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  Speaker 3: he draw?
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  Speaker 4: It was no fouls called.
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  Speaker 1: There's no fouls, and there were I might have hacked
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  Speaker 1: him a couple of times.
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  Speaker 3: He won.
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  Speaker 1: He has quickness on me, there's no time about that.
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  Speaker 1: He has skill on me.
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  Speaker 3: He can shoot, stamina probably too.
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  Speaker 1: He has working body parts.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, there were moments it's hard where it was very
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  Speaker 5: clear that I was playing.
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  Speaker 2: Against somebody who had a very long NFL career.
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  Speaker 1: And then finally he beat me mentally, which is the
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  Speaker 1: biggest because I was up nine to seven and he
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  Speaker 1: dared me to shoot two point game over two points
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  Speaker 1: after air.
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  Speaker 2: Bawling it, you can take over, and he tried for
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  Speaker 2: the shortcut.
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  Speaker 5: He said, yeah, I've been backing him down.
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  Speaker 3: We were both gas. We were both hoping that that
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  Speaker 3: shot went, both realizing why you don't play that much
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  Speaker 3: one on one basketball? Now, if Liam is involved with this,
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  Speaker 3: who wins. So here's the it all started.
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  Speaker 5: It all started with you know, a playful yet underlying
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  Speaker 5: it was a statement, any physical competition, name it, and
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  Speaker 5: he went.
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  Speaker 3: I'll come out on top. Okay, So this was the
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  Speaker 3: first of that list.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's probably fair to say that if we
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  Speaker 2: decided to arm wrestle, it's not going to go in
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  Speaker 2: my favor.
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  Speaker 3: So Tony's the only one that I would probably remember.
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  Speaker 3: This reference the old Superstar shows is that we're looking
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  Speaker 3: at now like yeah, but.
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  Speaker 1: It's a very modified something that we want.
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  Speaker 3: Knowing to suit this cant document.
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  Speaker 1: But overall, listen, I think from my perspective, the three
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  Speaker 1: of us were thrown into the hopper together and uh,
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  Speaker 1: if you look back how it all started, we kind
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  Speaker 1: of all get thrown together all first time, doing this
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  Speaker 1: specific role. Leam and I first about a month together
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  Speaker 1: of going through you know, helping him and get his staff.
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  Speaker 1: But then really our first thing together was going through
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  Speaker 1: the gym search. And then James comes in, and that
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  Speaker 1: was a fun process because the first time working with
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  Speaker 1: Limb and seeing how aligned we were and how we
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  Speaker 1: thought about things and looked at the world. And then
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  Speaker 1: James jumps into the frying pam with us right at
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  Speaker 1: the combine and going through pressure situations, free agency draft,
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  Speaker 1: having to make roster moves. I thought it was a
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  Speaker 1: good test and it's been a lot of fun. I
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  Speaker 1: think my favorite part of the whole thing, it's funny.
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  Speaker 1: My wife asked me about six weeks ago, she said, like,
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  Speaker 1: what's the most pleasant surprise? And I said, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if it's a surprise, but what else can you
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  Speaker 1: ask for? Is be able to wake up every day
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  Speaker 1: and go do something you enjoy and you look forward to.
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  Speaker 1: It's like you wake up going, oh, I gotta go
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  Speaker 1: to work, or I gotta go see Liam or James
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  Speaker 1: or whoever. It's like, you know what, it's enjoyable, Like hey,
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait to get there, and like it's to
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  Speaker 1: be fun and we joke around, we have a good time.
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  Speaker 1: We're serious when we need to be serious. But also,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we understand that, hey, this is a long grind.
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  Speaker 1: Enjoy it.
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  Speaker 3: Somewhat taking Tony out of the mix because it's his podcast.
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  Speaker 3: But we haven't talked to you guys as much the
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  Speaker 3: working relationship between you two. Didn't know. He knew each
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  Speaker 3: other from the RAMS. But as you said, Liam, not
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  Speaker 3: really in the same It's not like you guys sat
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  Speaker 3: there and thought at the RAMS we're gonna make this
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  Speaker 3: us someday talk about three. Our relationship between you two.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that we're both coaches sons first and foremost, right,
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  Speaker 4: so there's a natural just balance of what you appreciate
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  Speaker 4: and you know, players and coaches and personnel and just
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  Speaker 4: the building and kind of the various ways of communicating.
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  Speaker 4: I think are very aligned, just naturally. That's something that
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  Speaker 4: when you grow up as a coach's kid in locker rooms,
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  Speaker 4: on sidelines, meeting rooms, and you just gain a little
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  Speaker 4: bit of a different perspective for the game and for
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  Speaker 4: the players and the people that are really in the building.
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  Speaker 3: So I think that it starts there.
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  Speaker 4: We're both obviously younger within our roles and also younger parents,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, those are some things that we can
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  Speaker 4: we just naturally align with and have a lot in
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  Speaker 4: common with.
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  Speaker 3: And James, I assume the same thought.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, very similar. I think obviously with a previous working relationship,
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  Speaker 2: you understand broadly who the person is that you're stepping
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  Speaker 2: in to the bunker with. It's shown itself in new
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  Speaker 2: ways though, just the growing appreciation for the way in
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  Speaker 2: which he moves. And one of the biggest elements there
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  Speaker 2: is the standards and the idea that, look, these are
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  Speaker 2: the standards that we set and we're going to uphold those.
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  Speaker 3: And so when you see that on the practice field
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  Speaker 3: and exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Right, that's exactly right, and that clarity right, that firmness
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  Speaker 2: is an important piece to the role. And it's something
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  Speaker 2: that I didn't get to see on such a grand
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  Speaker 2: stage with the Rams, and it's shown itself endlessly over
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  Speaker 2: the course of this offseason program in our conversations, and
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  Speaker 2: it's something I have a deep respect for, and I
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  Speaker 2: think everybody can have a respect for that, especially when
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  Speaker 2: it's rooted and all the right things and all the
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  Speaker 2: things that we're aligned on. And so that's something that
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  Speaker 2: I've been really excited about knowing that come the challenging times,
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  Speaker 2: that's where it's going to be tested. And in these windows,
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  Speaker 2: it's not a win or a loss on grass, and
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  Speaker 2: so we're practicing that and it's been cool to see
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  Speaker 2: that in those reps it's shown itself on the right side.
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  Speaker 2: And really looking forward to what this group and the
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  Speaker 2: greater group looks like once we're in the thick of
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  Speaker 2: it this season and get a chance to show what
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  Speaker 2: we've built up and get a chance to experience what
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  Speaker 2: is absolutely going to include setbacks or adversity and how
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  Speaker 2: we navigate those waters, because that's the time that we'll
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  Speaker 2: really know what we're built for. And those ops are
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  Speaker 2: something that I know all three of us are certainly
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  Speaker 2: excited about showing our true colors in.
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  Speaker 3: And I was gonna throw that question open for everybody,
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  Speaker 3: but you sort of touched on it. Have you all
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  Speaker 3: talked about, Okay, this is one thing, but how do
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  Speaker 3: we handle a loss, because unless you goes seventeen to oh,
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  Speaker 3: there's adversity is something well, I'm saying it's possible. I'm
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  Speaker 3: saying statistically it's difficult. But the problem has that been
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  Speaker 3: a thought that you guys have communicated with how do
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  Speaker 3: we handle rough waters?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean I think or you.
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  Speaker 3: Just know it's coming because you're in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: I think we all know it's coming. I mean, as
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  Speaker 1: a player, I lived at being part of this organization
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  Speaker 1: the last you know, church at the beginning. You go
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  Speaker 1: ups and downs and you understand the stress. I haven't
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  Speaker 1: ever sat on this side of the aisle in the
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  Speaker 1: difficult times been you know, have watched and seen think.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Lean's been a coach his whole life growing up.
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  Speaker 1: James has been seeing it from growing up as a
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  Speaker 1: high school with his dad, but also the RAM So
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  Speaker 1: I think it's not like we're naive and thinking, hey,
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  Speaker 1: being Pollyannic, everything's going to be great and we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: Kumbaya every day and high five. You know, that's not reality.
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  Speaker 1: But that's one of the fun things is it's okay
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  Speaker 1: to disagree, and I think we all and it's okay
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  Speaker 1: to have hard conversations. And we've been purposeful of sitting
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  Speaker 1: down and talking through not just what we're going through now,
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  Speaker 1: but what is it going to feel like, what it's
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  Speaker 1: going to look like when the bults are flying and
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  Speaker 1: making sure like, hey, we understand it. We're starting to
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  Speaker 1: understand and learn each other's personalities and communication styles. And
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  Speaker 1: one thing I appreciate about both these guys, and it's
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  Speaker 1: a theme that's been said, it is like, hey, the
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  Speaker 1: freedom to be yourself and the other the other two
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  Speaker 1: of the three of us respecting that and be able
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  Speaker 1: to learn how that person moves and flows and can
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  Speaker 1: municates and trying to meet everyone at their at their
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  Speaker 1: at their place, and that's all you can ask for.
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  Speaker 3: You mentioned the catchphrase that James always talked has obviously
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  Speaker 3: talked about a lot. Free to be yourself and the
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  Speaker 3: idea of bringing in a roster of guys that you like,
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  Speaker 3: who love ball, who play for each other after a
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  Speaker 3: couple of months, I to get your all three of
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  Speaker 3: all thoughts on that. Do you like the progress you've
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  Speaker 3: made toward that? I guess Liam you start, Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think there's definitely been some progress made. It's it's
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  Speaker 4: absolutely not where it needs to be yet, and that's
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  Speaker 4: that's normal.
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  Speaker 3: You know, that's very fully expected.
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  Speaker 4: But in terms of the buy in from the players, right,
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  Speaker 4: you know that that's ultimately truly what matters most is
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  Speaker 4: is what we do out on the grass, our style
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  Speaker 4: of play, the way that you know we communicate with
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  Speaker 4: each other in the building, the way that our standards
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  Speaker 4: are upheld within the building. You know, those are the
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  Speaker 4: things that we've tried to instill this whole spring and
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  Speaker 4: so absolute work in progress for sure, and we have
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  Speaker 4: a lot of work to do this summer and in
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  Speaker 4: training camp as we lead into the season. But I've
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  Speaker 4: been really pleased with the guys, you know, the group,
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  Speaker 4: it's a fun group to be around us far for
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  Speaker 4: the most part, everything that we've asked them to do,
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  Speaker 4: they've leaned into work their tails off in the weight
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  Speaker 4: room this whole spring and winter, and hopefully that will
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  Speaker 4: continue to progress us throughout this summer into training camp.
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  Speaker 3: And you sort of set the tone in this world, James,
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  Speaker 3: But do you like that progress? I'm sure you have
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  Speaker 3: a vision provincially, Hey, you went the roster to look.
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  Speaker 3: Do you like after two or three months where it's headed.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I never think that job's done. It's ongoing.
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  Speaker 2: Certainly feel better than when we started, But this is
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  Speaker 2: a bill. It's not something that's ever going to be
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  Speaker 2: complete in our opinion, and I know that perfection is
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  Speaker 2: certainly something you'd like to see in place, but it's
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  Speaker 2: not the reality. It's oftentimes, especially during this phase of
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  Speaker 2: the calendar year, that there's going to be some poor
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  Speaker 2: results or a failure or a setback or whatever it
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  Speaker 2: might be, with the runway to address it and see
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  Speaker 2: how somebody responds, how a group responds, etc. And so
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  Speaker 2: these learning opportunities are opportunities for growth, and that's really
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  Speaker 2: what you probably lean into more than anything at this
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  Speaker 2: phase and like to think that by the time we
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  Speaker 2: get to training camp we continue to see some version
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  Speaker 2: of an ascension. Like coach mentioned, we're not at a
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  Speaker 2: spot where we feel complacent or like the job's done.
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  Speaker 2: This has got a lot of work still to be
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  Speaker 2: done and we got to continue to earn everything that
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  Speaker 2: we get beyond this moment in time.
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  Speaker 3: A fun topic as it worked toward the end. Travis
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  Speaker 3: Hunter now in the building for a couple of months,
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  Speaker 3: a chance to get to know it's always a huge
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  Speaker 3: storyline of the off season. After a couple of months
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  Speaker 3: of getting to know him, layam thoughts on the kid
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  Speaker 3: because he's impressive.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's he loves football, he loves to compete. You
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  Speaker 4: feel his energy out on the grass. His endurance out
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  Speaker 4: on the grass is just kind of NonStop. He definitely
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  Speaker 4: brings a little bit of that youthful energy to our team,
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  Speaker 4: to our offense and defense. He's made some really good
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  Speaker 4: plays and he's continuing to have to learn as he goes.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he's learning to do something that not a
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  Speaker 4: lot of people have done right, and so he's learning
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  Speaker 4: a complex offensive system with a ton of moving parts.
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  Speaker 4: He's learning a brand new defense, and also playing in
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  Speaker 4: the National Football League for the first time in his life.
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  Speaker 4: So been really pleased with the maturity level on his
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  Speaker 4: ability to seamlessly move on maybe from a negative play
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  Speaker 4: to the next play. And you know, I think he's
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  Speaker 4: getting along really well with the guys.
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  Speaker 2: A ton of credit has to go to our coaching staff,
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  Speaker 2: our support system for taking this on. I think Liam
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  Speaker 2: has talked about it at each step that he's had
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  Speaker 2: the chance to.
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  Speaker 3: Because you're trying to invent something that never existed.
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  Speaker 2: This is an organizational sort of path here that has
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  Speaker 2: to involve a lot of moving parts and really a
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  Speaker 2: complex sort of operation and try to make it something
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  Speaker 2: that everybody can grasp and everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Can get a hold of.
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  Speaker 2: But to see today be the first time the day
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  Speaker 2: we walk out the door where Travis has the opp
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  Speaker 2: in practice to spend time on both the offense and
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  Speaker 2: the defense. Was a really good visual for us to
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  Speaker 2: see before we ever get to training camp, knowing that
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  Speaker 2: that's the next iteration. He's going to have to be
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  Speaker 2: able to vacillate between the two positions instead of just
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  Speaker 2: defense on one day, offense the other. Knowing that that's
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  Speaker 2: going to be what a game could in fact look
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  Speaker 2: like should he earn those outs that come on game day.
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  Speaker 2: And obviously that's a big part of this. We're providing
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  Speaker 2: that pathway, we're providing that up, but it's got to
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  Speaker 2: be earned. It's got to come through commitment and performance,
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  Speaker 2: and certainly time will tell on that front. But looking
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  Speaker 2: forward to it, yeah, I was.
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  Speaker 1: Gonna say the thing that's been that I appreciate this
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  Speaker 1: goes for Travis Hunter is the willingness to think outside
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  Speaker 1: the box. And I think one of the things that
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  Speaker 1: I love about working together is the competitive nature of
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  Speaker 1: like not being satisfied and saying, Okay, we're not worried
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  Speaker 1: about how it's been done, but we have a vision
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  Speaker 1: and it might be not correct. Day one we might
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  Speaker 1: have to pivot, but being unafraid to make decisions and say, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to go try to do something that has
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  Speaker 1: been done and might it might look different through the
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: process of how do we onboard him or how does
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  Speaker 1: he learn or whatever. It is not just for Travis,
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  Speaker 1: but any player coming in and thinking of like, what
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  Speaker 1: are we being unafraid to do whatever it takes to
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  Speaker 1: try to create a championship organization to be the best
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  Speaker 1: we can and everything. I think that's the most fun,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's Travis playing both sides the ball and organizationally
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  Speaker 1: looking across, how do you prepare someone for that? What's
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  Speaker 1: the best way for him to learn? The stress on
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  Speaker 1: our coaches because now you have both sides of the ball,
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  Speaker 1: knowing they have limited opportunities with the individual because we're
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  Speaker 1: governed by a set of rules and how much time
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  Speaker 1: we can spend and everything else and getting creative and
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  Speaker 1: how do you think of different ways to help a
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  Speaker 1: young man learn both sides of the ball? Practice time,
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  Speaker 1: not wearing them out, but and not being set in
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  Speaker 1: saying we're going to do it this way and this
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  Speaker 1: is the answer. But the openness of saying, hey, let's
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  Speaker 1: go do this and evaluate and hey, maybe we need
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  Speaker 1: to pivot. And that's been the fun part, and I
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  Speaker 1: think that's one of the things that for us to
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  Speaker 1: be successful, we need to continue to have that mindset,
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  Speaker 1: that growth mindset, looking forward and continuing to press press
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  Speaker 1: on and not be afraid to take chances to look
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  Speaker 1: different ways, to do it differently and innovate. And that's
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  Speaker 1: a and that's an important thing. And especially when you
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: think about what we're trying to allow Travis under to
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  Speaker 1: do in the NFL, and.
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  Speaker 3: Just one more thing that a lucky first time head
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  Speaker 3: coach gets to deal with.
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  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, definitely, Yeah, it's it's pretty cool to see, right, Like,
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  Speaker 4: you definitely want players that want to be the best,
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  Speaker 4: and that's ultimately what he does want to be, whether
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  Speaker 4: it's at receiver or cornerback. He has a drive to
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  Speaker 4: be a really good football player in this league and
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  Speaker 4: so we want to be able to provide that because
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: ultimately that'll help our team win as many games. And
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  Speaker 4: usually when your best players are your hardest workers and
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  Speaker 4: the guys that truly love to compete and love the game,
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  Speaker 4: that's that's always what you're looking for.
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  Speaker 3: And he has that any you know and ask Liam first,
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  Speaker 3: any can jump in anything that you know about the
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: team now that you maybe didn't know a couple of
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: months ago before you got them together. Realizing that pads
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: aren't on yet. Everything starts in training camp. Did anything
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  Speaker 3: stand out about this bunch?
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  Speaker 5: You know?
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  Speaker 4: I think that something to be said with some mental
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: toughness and resiliency through multiple Obviously there's guys on this
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  Speaker 4: roster that have been through a ton of change and
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: a ton of turnover. And then it becomes, you know,
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  Speaker 4: a time where do you do you trust the process?
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  Speaker 4: Are you trusting your coaches? Are you trusting the building?
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  Speaker 4: And so to be kind of thrust into this position
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  Speaker 4: and be around a bunch of guys that have you
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  Speaker 4: had success, whether it be here in Jacksonville or at
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: different organizations that they have been a part of, to
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: to really trust the process and to take the coaching
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  Speaker 4: and to not take it personal if it does get
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: a little heated and to here's some changing, you do
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: they have to trust you? That's right, And ultimately we've
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: got to build the relationships with the players in order
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: for them to fully trust you. Typically coach the player relationship,
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  Speaker 4: they're gonna initially do what you asked them to do
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  Speaker 4: because they're a player and your coach, right and that's
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: your job is to help them get better. And but
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: those lines can sometimes get blurred if you do not trust.
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  Speaker 4: And I've been really pleased with just overall the team.
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  Speaker 4: You know, what we do with the iron jack games
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  Speaker 4: and with the weight room and what we were putting
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  Speaker 4: on them mentally on both the offensive, defensive, and special teams.
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  Speaker 4: It's a lot, a lot to take in, it's a
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: lot to trust, and those guys have really leaned into that,
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  Speaker 4: and I've appreciated that.
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  Speaker 3: It's cool.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they the surprising element on some level it was
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  Speaker 2: you walk in sort of optimistic that when we we
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: start this off season program, we're going to have strong attendance.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: You don't know that based off of the weeks leading
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: up to that kickoff, because it's a new regime. What
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: has happened in the past may or may not be
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: indicative of what's about to occur here this offseason. But
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: the attendance, the participation has been through the roof and
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: that's not a consistent theme across the NFL landscape. So
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: to see that from our players in our first off
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: season programming, pointing to a lot in which coach you
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: just just mentioned that was a very important piece to
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: get in this thing and the foundation for it in
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: a good spot heading in the training camp, but certainly
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: points back to them and their willingness despite in many
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: instances having been through this before, to step right back
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: in and almost starting with the idea that I'm going
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: to trust this and see where it takes me.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Have you guys gotten any of the feeling I assume
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Tony has because he's been in the community forever. But
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: you can't be around this right now and be out
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: in the city without realizing how fans are sort of
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: getting on board. Have you felt that, James, Oh, the
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: love and the sport has been awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Every time I step out and I get a mentioned
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  Speaker 2: or a high five, it's certainly welcome.
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  Speaker 3: And now they're going to congratulate you in the big
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: one on one bag. Oh, it's even better.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's congraduate congratulations worthy.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: And they'll be giving him it was not a good look.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: We would definitely both be painted in a much different
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: picture if anybody captured that moment in time. Yeah, But nonetheless,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: the support the love has been something that's been very
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: much appreciated upon arrival. I actually am looking forward to
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: a summer here in Jacksonville because right now, the only
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: map that I have, or path that I have in
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: my head is from home to the facility. Being able
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: to understand the broader landscape of the city is going
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: to be awesome, and I'm sure it'll allow for a
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: little bit more interaction with the community that I haven't
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: already got. But just the natural interactions have been been
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: pretty good. Going to the grocery store and sure like that.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Obviously, the open Mini camp day was off the charts
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: in terms of energy. Have you felt it elsewhere as well, Lan.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, every time we go out as a family, you know,
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: it's been continuous support, you know, people stopping, you know,
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: for pictures, and you know, it's great when you see kids, right,
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: kids having children, young children of my own now and
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: kind of being that person as a young child as well.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: You always want to be able to connect with the
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: fans and because ultimately, you know, so much of this
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: is a part of them, in this whole city, and
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: trying to provide a winning product and a product that
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: our fans are proud of that. They want to home
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: and see that. Ultimately, they know that we're doing everything
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: in our power to put the best product on the
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: field and to make our city, our town, our organization proud.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: And you know that's something that you've definitely felt in
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: the community.
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  Speaker 3: And I know, Tony, you and I have talked a
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: lot about getting that back, embracing the fans, a lot
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: of the transparency that all of you have been willing
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: to give to the website and Jaguars media, that's all
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: been part of it. Do you like what you've seen
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: so far on all those fronts?
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Stones Yeah, I mean, listen, it's been great. But to
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: be clear, we are in the honeymoon period, and no
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: doubt when you change, people.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Get excited getting the honeymoon because it was bad.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, things are not being We wouldn't be
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: here if things were going great. Everyone was excited. I
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: mean that's how it is. So I always appreciate our fans.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: I think what I.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Appreciate most about this offseason is the entire building here
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: and how the entire, the entire, the majority of people,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: and I'm i say that our coaching staff are the
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: personnel football offics of sports staff. There's been a lot
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: of change that's been put in place, and the competitive
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: spirit of the majority of the people that have been
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: involved to attack it, take advantage of the opportunity and
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: try to shift and move this big lardship into the
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: right direction so that we're not just having our fans
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: excited during this honeymoon phase where there's change and there's
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: hope and everything else. What I appreciate that the work
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: has been done. We're at the very least in this
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: honeymoon period giving ourselves the opportunity, earning the right to
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: go into camp and to continue to work and to
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: compete so that the real test will be at the
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: end of the year. Forget about the record. Is I
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: think what Liam says exactly right, that our fans will
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: appreciate the product that's been put on the field, the competitiveness,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: the style of football, the work ethic, the toughness, so
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: that they continue to build the excitement for what we're building.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: That's why I appreciate the most, because I know that
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: when change comes, yes, fans are excited, and I love
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: our fans, but I don't think what people appreciate what
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: happens in this building lives are impacted, people are moving in.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: It's all new stuff for our players. Players have questions
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Leam's right. As a player, You're like, you're doing what
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: you're supposed to do because they're the coaches. But at
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: the same time, there's a building of trust. You know,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: James came in middle parachutes in the middle, all these
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: different people that have done things one way their whole lives.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: James comes in and says, this is how we're gonna He.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Comes in and says, hey, we're trading up.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: We're doing a lot of different new things, and that
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: it was gradual when we continue to do In watching
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: the competitive nature, I think, I don't want to say
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I was surprised by I look at our players. Guys
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: who've been here hadn't gone well. I've been very easy
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: for them to say like here we go again. But
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: the majority of players buying in football operations, the work
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: our coaches have done personnel, that's what gets me excited
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: and that's where I'm hopeful that, hey, we are earning
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: the right to have an opportunity to go compete at
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: a high level, to give us a chance to go
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: win football games. And that's all you can ask that's
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: what our fans are asking for, ultimately results, But you
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: can't worry about the results. They don't take care of
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: themselves if we do. I think my belief is you
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: do everything right, trust the process, work just where you
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: need to compete your tails off everything else to take
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: care of itself.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: No better way to end this, no better way to
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: end an exciting off season. Guys. I can't thank you
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: enough for doing this. Tony, since it's his podcast, he
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: also can't thank you enough, but I do think you fantastic.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: John is getting tired of talking to you just me. Well,
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: we didn't that for thirty years, so absolutely, guys. Enjoy
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: the off season and thank you for doing Thanks, Thanks Johnny,
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Thank you