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Half of the Planet Will Go Dark? It Happens Every Night · Made of Stars

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Speaker 1: Warning. The following podcast contains an entertaining look at astronomy, physics,
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Speaker 1: and space news throughout the known universe. Listeners have been
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Speaker 1: known to learn about astronomical phenomenon the scientific method, and
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Speaker 1: expanded vocabulary to include terms like quasar asterism and uranus. Listen,
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Speaker 2: Go ahead. When made of stars, made them stars.
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Speaker 3: Made sizes. When made of stars, you could be from
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Speaker 3: high they would New Mexicomus, where all stars.
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Speaker 4: When we are made of stars.
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Speaker 5: I'm West Carol, joined by my good friend doctor Sean
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Speaker 5: Cruising from Columbus State University's Coca Cola Space Science Center.
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Speaker 4: More than Seawan.
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Speaker 2: Good morning, West, good to be here today.
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Speaker 5: I want to mention this because we've been talking about
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Speaker 5: it last week, but we're starting to get things in
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Speaker 5: gear for our dragon Con coverage, which will come up
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Speaker 5: on Labor Day weekend when dragon Con happens, and we'll
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Speaker 5: have the dragon Con pregame show come into about two
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Speaker 5: hundred radio stations around the state of Georgia, and any
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Speaker 5: of those signals that bleed over into other surrounding states,
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Speaker 5: they'll get an opportunity to hear it there on the
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Speaker 5: radio as well, and then on the dragon Con Pregame
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Speaker 5: show podcast wherever you hear this podcast, you can right
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Speaker 5: now listen to past dragon Con pregame shows and listen
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Speaker 5: to interviews with people like I don't know, William Shatner.
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Speaker 5: I mean, I just I just throw that one out
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Speaker 5: there just because you know, big deal. It's just William Shatner,
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Speaker 5: that's all. And then you know stars from Star Wars,
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Speaker 5: other Star Trek people, the Marvel Universe, also Walking Dead
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Speaker 5: shows like that. So those are available now for you
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Speaker 5: to listen to. Some Disney stars. I mean I've interviewed Goofy,
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Speaker 5: Minnie Mouse, Donald Duck. All that's left now really is
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Speaker 5: gonna be Mickey, you know. I mean we're getting to
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Speaker 5: that stage. I guess I actually did interview Pete. That's
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Speaker 5: another one. So anyway, all of that stuff waiting for
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Speaker 5: you there on the dragon Con pregame show for you
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Speaker 5: to listen to and then get ready for. I can't
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Speaker 5: announce the guests yet, but coming very soon will be
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Speaker 5: the names of the guests.
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Speaker 4: I've put in teen.
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Speaker 2: Them, right, you know, so there's good ones.
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Speaker 5: Yes, I got a pretty good idea of who I'm
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Speaker 5: going to have on the show at this stage at
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Speaker 5: least a couple of the guests. There's a couple that
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Speaker 5: I'm kind of waiting to find out, and we'll see
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Speaker 5: how it all plays out, but they always come through
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Speaker 5: for me. I end up with some fun people to
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Speaker 5: talk to, like the aforementioned guests I've mentioned. And then
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Speaker 5: I want to just thank you guys at Columbus State
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Speaker 5: University sponsoring our coverage every year, and we always talk
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Speaker 5: at some point, and you're on the pregame show with
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Speaker 5: me in more recent years talk about these connections between
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Speaker 5: science and science fiction and how it all just makes
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Speaker 5: sense and the way one draws from the other and
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Speaker 5: then it also goes the other direction, and you know,
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Speaker 5: all of a sudden, you're watching an old episode of
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Speaker 5: Star Trek and you're like, is that an iPad that
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Speaker 5: they're using in a medical examination room? And you're like,
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Speaker 5: this was a long time ago. How did they know
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Speaker 5: iPads were coming? And you go, well, you know, and
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Speaker 5: then they're little communicators that were eerily like next tell
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Speaker 5: phones and stuff like that, and you're like, yeah, I
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Speaker 5: get it. This is kind kind of a nice connection there,
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Speaker 5: and then of course science itself does. We had a
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Speaker 5: guest on this show on the Mat of Stars podcast
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Speaker 5: doctor Ed MacDonald, who is a consultant on Star Trek
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Speaker 5: and the Star Trek programming on Paramount, and you know,
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Speaker 5: we talked with her about some of the things that
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Speaker 5: she does as a consultant on that show, where she says,
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Speaker 5: all right, you guys want to go in this direction
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Speaker 5: with science fiction, but we want to keep it grounded
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Speaker 5: in science, so let me try to keep you on course.
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Speaker 5: So there's a lot of those connections with a can
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Speaker 5: like Dragon con it's not just sci fi, it's really
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Speaker 5: pop culture in general. And then a lot of you know,
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Speaker 5: comic book artists and authors and actual scientists that will
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Speaker 5: be there. And you know last year, you know Katie Coleman,
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Speaker 5: the astronaut, we had her on the show and she
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Speaker 5: was there at the convention. So you know, I mean,
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Speaker 5: there's just a lot to this convention and it just
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Speaker 5: makes sense that we team up for it every year.
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Speaker 5: But I just want to let you know again as always,
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Speaker 5: appreciate your involvement with it and you guys helping to
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Speaker 5: sponsor the coverage.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, one of the big stories in space
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Speaker 2: in the last year was astronaut Don Pettitt spending some
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Speaker 2: significant time aboard the International Space Station. Of course, he's
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Speaker 2: the astrophotographer, so to speak. He's very into photography of
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Speaker 2: both space and the Earth from the International Space Station,
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Speaker 2: so he made a lot of headlines this year. He
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Speaker 2: plays in a band with Katie Coleman. Who knew that right, Well,
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Speaker 2: we knew it because we heard Katie Coleman talk on
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Speaker 2: last year's pregame show. So yeah, check out, make sure
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Speaker 2: and check out the dragon Con free game show with Wes.
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Speaker 2: It's always got really entertaining people on there and gives
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Speaker 2: you insights into both science, yes, but also into the
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Speaker 2: entertainment industry, and it's just kind of a fun thing
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Speaker 2: to do. Well.
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Speaker 5: Speaking of astronauts, let's jump into the NASA Crew ten
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Speaker 5: astronauts as they're getting ready for Crew ten.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a name to drop on the Crew
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Speaker 2: ten group, which is Anne McLain. Yeah, so Anne McLain
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Speaker 2: is actually aboard the International Space Station as part of
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Speaker 2: Crew ten right now. She has been a visitor here
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Speaker 2: at the Coca Cola Space Science Center, so we're really
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Speaker 2: excited that she's you know, we'd call her a friend
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Speaker 2: of the museum. She's a friend of the museum here
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Speaker 2: and she is now a board iss on Crew ten.
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Speaker 2: The big news on Crew ten is that they're having
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Speaker 2: a press conference. This will be on Friday, so you know,
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Speaker 2: tomorrow as we're recording the show here ten forty am
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Speaker 2: Eastern daylight time, from the International Space Station, the Crew
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Speaker 2: ten astronauts will be speaking with the media, so make
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Speaker 2: sure you check out those interviews that the Crew ten
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Speaker 2: team includes Takuya Onishi, who's a Jack's astronaut, Japanese Space Agency,
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Speaker 2: our friend A McClain of course, Nicole Errs, another NASA astronaut,
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Speaker 2: and from ros Cosmos Careel Peskov. So these astronauts will
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Speaker 2: be speaking to the media from the International Space Station
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Speaker 2: on Friday, July twenty fifth. So if you don't hear
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Speaker 2: the story, if you don't hear the podcast this week,
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Speaker 2: go back and hear the interviews from Friday, July twenty fifth.
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Speaker 2: Of the Crew ten astronauts. They launched to the International
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Speaker 2: Space Station on March the sixteenth, so they've been up
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Speaker 2: there for a while now, and they'll be concluding their
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Speaker 2: mission sometime August September something along those lines, after approximately
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Speaker 2: five to six months on board Space station. When Crew
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Speaker 2: eleven takes off. An announcement has just been made about
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Speaker 2: Crew eleven's launched eight. They're looking toward the end of July,
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Speaker 2: the last week in July to launch. If they can't
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Speaker 2: hit it for weather reasons or something the first week
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Speaker 2: in August. So Crew eleven will be the relief crew
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Speaker 2: for Crew ten, and so we'll have we'll have more
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Speaker 2: coverage on that story on this podcast as events unfold.
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Speaker 5: Friends, So what you're saying is if there's a weather
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Speaker 5: issue and Crew eleven can't go up, crew ten will
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Speaker 5: be stuck on the International Space Station? Is that what
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Speaker 5: you're saying?
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Speaker 2: They'll be nearly hopelessly stranded.
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Speaker 5: They'll be forced to eat freeze dried meals up there.
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Speaker 2: I did just read that that Crew eleven is scheduled
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Speaker 2: for six months, but their mission could be extended up
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Speaker 2: to one or two months, so they could go seven.
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Speaker 2: So I guess those last two months are just simply
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Speaker 2: stranded aboard.
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Speaker 5: That's what it would be.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's pretty cool, and like I said, what we do.
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Speaker 5: We're getting ready for the press conference on Friday, but
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Speaker 5: it'll be great to hear kind of where things are
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Speaker 5: with the current mission. And then as they prep for
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Speaker 5: that return home.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been doing a lot of exciting experiment to
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Speaker 2: board the International Space Station, the crew ten astronauts have
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Speaker 2: and they'll be talking about those experiments on Friday. And
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Speaker 2: something fun is that several of our alumni from here
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Speaker 2: at Clombus State University and former interns here at are
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Speaker 2: Space Science Center now work at the Marshall Space Flight
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Speaker 2: Center in the payload Operations area. Their flight controllers over there,
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Speaker 2: operations controllers working with the astronauts aboard the space station
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Speaker 2: on the experiments that they do up there every day.
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Speaker 2: So shout out to some of our alum who are
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Speaker 2: over there at Marshall. And by the way, quick shout
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Speaker 2: out to Marshall Space Flight Center itself. They're celebrating a
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Speaker 2: very important anniversary. Actually, they celebrated at the end of
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Speaker 2: last week, July nineteenth. They celebrated sixty five years of
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Speaker 2: operation over there. So Marshall Space Flight Center established in
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Speaker 2: July of nineteen sixty and so they have a sixty
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Speaker 2: fifth anniversary of that vaunted institution over there, the Marshall
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Speaker 2: Space Flight Center in nearby Huntsville, Alabama. So congratulations to all.
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Speaker 5: Of them, Kudos to them.
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Speaker 2: On that.
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Speaker 5: Let's talk about this new giant molecular cloud found near
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Speaker 5: the center of the Milky Way. Now, when they say
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Speaker 5: it's a new cloud, does that mean it's just formed
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Speaker 5: or does it mean they've only just found it.
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Speaker 2: I think it's new to us. Yeah, we didn't know
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Speaker 2: it was there. Certainly it's old.
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Speaker 5: Considering how far away it is in the way light works,
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Speaker 5: we know it can't be too new.
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Speaker 2: It's not new. So that's my bad headline writing. But anyway,
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Speaker 2: so the cloud is new to us. We now know
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Speaker 2: of a new discovery of a molecular cloud in a
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Speaker 2: place we didn't know that there was a molecular cloud,
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Speaker 2: at least not this of this size. So one of
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Speaker 2: the important things about it is how big it is.
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Speaker 2: It's what's referred to technically as a giant molecular cloud,
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Speaker 2: but it is truly giant. It has the mass of
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Speaker 2: hydrogen gas equivalent to one hundred and sixty thousand suns.
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Speaker 5: That's a lot.
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Speaker 2: It's a lot of suns, yeah, right, so you could
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Speaker 2: make a lot of stars out of the gas in
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Speaker 2: this giant cloud. Right. So that's why it gets classified
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Speaker 2: as what they call a giant molecular cloud. Why do
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Speaker 2: we say molecular, Well, it's because it's molecular hydrogen, and
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Speaker 2: that means two hydrogen atoms that are joined together in
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Speaker 2: a molecule called H two. If you stuck an O
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Speaker 2: on it, you might be able to drink it. So
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Speaker 2: just think about it. Just go with me on that
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Speaker 2: one anyway. So it's molecular H two is one of
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Speaker 2: those elements that's out there that's responsible for star formation,
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Speaker 2: for galaxy formation. And yes, even if there's a planet
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Speaker 2: out there with water on it, it probably came the
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Speaker 2: hydrogen probably came from one of these giant molecular clouds
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Speaker 2: as that Solar system was forming. So it's also very
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Speaker 2: large in size because it stretches out over two hundred
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Speaker 2: light years, which is kind of crazy. It's like two
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Speaker 2: hundred light years from one side to the other of
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Speaker 2: this massive cloud of hydrogen, molecular hydrogen that's just sitting
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Speaker 2: there ready to form stars. So that's the interesting thing
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Speaker 2: about it. It's about twenty three thousand light years away
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Speaker 2: from us, which that's that's a pretty good distance. And
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Speaker 2: here's another weird thing. The Milky Way galaxy is what's
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Speaker 2: known as a barred spiral that means right in the
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Speaker 2: middle of the galaxy, we have this structure that's kind
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Speaker 2: of like just a straight line rectangle, and that rectangle
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Speaker 2: is known as a galactic bar. Well, this giant molecutar
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Speaker 2: cloud that has been newly discovered is sitting inside the
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Speaker 2: Milky Way's galactic bar. They gave it an interesting name.
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Speaker 2: It just rolls off the tongue. Doesn't really roll off
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Speaker 2: the tongue. You probably won't remember it, but it's M
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Speaker 2: four point seven H zero point eight. Got it?
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Speaker 5: Committed to memory?
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Speaker 2: Got it? I think that's the name of Ela Musk's
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Speaker 2: fourth child. I can't remember M four point seven dash
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Speaker 2: zero point eight anyway, he just calls him M. You know,
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Speaker 2: it's just M for short.
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Speaker 5: So if that was literally the name of kid, I
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Speaker 5: wouldn't be surprised. I could have bought that and gone,
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Speaker 5: of course it is, so you know.
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Speaker 2: It's fake news. I I'll just throw that out. That
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Speaker 2: was a fake news moment here on the podcast. But
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Speaker 2: but you wouldn't be surprised, as you say, right, it's
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Speaker 2: at least consistent with previous behavior.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it means like the you know, chemical symbol for
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Speaker 5: boron or something in the middle of it, and that
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Speaker 5: would have been exactly his name.
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Speaker 2: But anyway, so, yes, this is the giant molecular cloud
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Speaker 2: called M four point seven DASH zero point eight, formerly
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Speaker 2: known as Dave.
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Speaker 4: Yes.
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Speaker 2: So the researchers have already spotted some centers of possible
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Speaker 2: star formation within this giant molecular cloud. It is literally
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Speaker 2: out there birth and babies. That's what it's doing. It's
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Speaker 2: birth and baby stars down there inside the milky ways
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Speaker 2: galactic bar.
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Speaker 5: Nice just for understanding when you said if you put
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Speaker 5: an O on it, you might be.
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Speaker 4: Able to drink it.
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Speaker 5: At times, very very literal brain thought, why wouldn't you
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Speaker 5: be able to drink it if it had an O one?
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Speaker 5: And of course you could drink it. And then I thought, oh,
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Speaker 5: because you'd have to get to it to be able
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Speaker 5: to drink it. Therefore you wouldn't be able to drink it.
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Speaker 5: So that's where my brain went for a couple of seconds.
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Speaker 5: That's why it probably looked like I was, you know,
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Speaker 5: just kind of frozen over here on this side, just
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Speaker 5: kind of going, wait a minute.
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Speaker 2: What is he talking about? You know this, I will
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Speaker 2: tell you regular listeners of the show, you probably already
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Speaker 2: know this, but But for the rest of you out
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Speaker 2: there who might be tuning in for the very first time,
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Speaker 2: you know, this guy is a science teacher, and he
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Speaker 2: makes science teacher jokes, and quite often science teacher jokes
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Speaker 2: are just met with blank stares like, eight, what are
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Speaker 2: you talking about? And b did you really think that
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Speaker 2: was funny? It's like I.
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Speaker 5: Followed it, absolutely completely followed it. I just went off
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Speaker 5: into this very literal direction and just kind of, you know,
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Speaker 5: like I was maybe buffering as you're looking at me,
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Speaker 5: probably a little imagining a little hour glass spinning right
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Speaker 5: underneath me, And that's probably really what I looked like.
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Speaker 2: But in my nearly three decades completed of you know,
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Speaker 2: teaching college, I've seen that look many times on the
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Speaker 2: faces of people in my classroom.
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Speaker 5: So's I would imagine. So coming up after a quick break,
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Speaker 5: we have two stories you may have seen online, you
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Speaker 5: almost certainly have seen online, and are they actually stories?
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Speaker 5: We'll find out after this. All right, let's let's start
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Speaker 5: with this asteroid that apparently is Oh my gosh, we're
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Speaker 5: gonna have a nearby a near pass of this asteroid.
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Speaker 5: We better look out here it comes watch out. We're
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Speaker 5: in big trouble, and it's less than a week away.
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Speaker 2: So so as with many things that propagate in this manner,
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Speaker 2: there's some kernel of truth somewhere in there, somewhere deep down.
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Speaker 2: For years, Wes, when you and I were on the radio,
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Speaker 2: we had what appeared to be the annual event of
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Speaker 2: a Mars hoax, which was, Mars is going to look
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Speaker 2: as large as two full moons in the sky because
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Speaker 2: it's so close, and it's going to happen. It happens
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Speaker 2: every August. Every August there was the Mars. What is
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Speaker 2: it about August, I don't know, August coming up here.
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Speaker 2: So what happened was that there was actually a close
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Speaker 2: pass of the planet Mars in and August, and then
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Speaker 2: just every year after that, they just kept coming back
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Speaker 2: with the same story. And this story kept getting more fantastical.
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Speaker 2: You know, the Mars was going to be, you know,
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Speaker 2: as close as the moon and twice the size of
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Speaker 2: the sky. We'll have news for your friends. If Mars
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Speaker 2: was actually as close as the moon, it would be
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Speaker 2: more than twice the size of the moon in the.
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Speaker 5: Sky anyway there at like that, and we would be
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Speaker 5: in a lot of trouble. Like just the way gravity works.
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Speaker 5: There would be a lot of problems if we were
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Speaker 5: that close to Mars.
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Speaker 2: Ho's gonna be some complications gravitationally, Yes, sir.
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Speaker 4: I would.
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Speaker 5: I would also just like to point out that it's
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Speaker 5: not just space news this happens with because I'm pretty
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Speaker 5: sure I've read the headline that Andy Griffith just died
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Speaker 5: about every three months that pops in somewhere where it's like, oh,
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Speaker 5: it's so sad to see this. It's been a while,
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Speaker 5: you know.
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Speaker 2: Why, why do people do these things? I just don't understand.
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Speaker 5: But I don't know, all right, So you're saying there's
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Speaker 5: some kernel of truth to this somewhere, that we actually
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Speaker 5: do have something set to pass by, but it's not
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Speaker 5: going to be nearly as close as what's being reported.
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Speaker 2: Yes, digging down, digging down to the truth of the
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Speaker 2: matter is that there is an asteroid. The asteroid's name
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Speaker 2: is twenty twenty five. OW don't get too obsessed about
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Speaker 2: what that means. It's just a catalog description, so that
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Speaker 2: means it was discovered in this year. It measures about
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Speaker 2: two hundred and ten feet in length, and it's going
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Speaker 2: to pass by the Earth on July twenty eighth. This
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Speaker 2: is where the truth ends and the fantasy begins, at
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Speaker 2: least if you're out there on certain social media platforms
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Speaker 2: reading about violent asteroids nearly colliding with the Earth. Okay,
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Speaker 2: because the rest of the story that's factual is that
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Speaker 2: this particular asteroid is going to come within about three
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Speaker 2: hundred and ninety three thousand miles of the Earth. Now, listen,
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Speaker 2: on the scale of the Milky Way, Yeah, that's right
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Speaker 2: next to us. On the scale of the Solar System,
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Speaker 2: that's pretty close. On the scale of the Earth Moon system,
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Speaker 2: and the Moon's not close, you know, like it takes
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Speaker 2: takes a while to grab an uber and get out
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Speaker 2: to the Moon. Ask the people working on the SLS
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Speaker 2: right now. So it's about one point six times the
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Speaker 2: average distance of the Moon. That's how close this asteroid
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Speaker 2: is going to pass. So, in other words, not very
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Speaker 2: close in these other comparative scales, yes, it's kind of close,
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Speaker 2: but in reality, for an asteroid we have to worry about.
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Speaker 2: This pass is no big deal. And a lot is
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Speaker 2: being made of how fast this asteroid is passing by
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Speaker 2: the Earth. It's passing by it forty six thousand miles
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Speaker 2: an hour. It is kernel of truth. Yes it's true.
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Speaker 2: But because it's more than one and a half times
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Speaker 2: the distance from Earth to Moon and it's only two
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Speaker 2: hundred and ten feet across, it's not a big deal.
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Speaker 2: In fact, these kinds of encounters are what NASA scientists
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Speaker 2: describe as routine. Now, we all have our different routines.
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Speaker 2: You may not have the same routine as a NASA astroid.
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Speaker 2: You might think, oh wow, you know, an asteroid passing
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Speaker 2: by a forty or forty six thousand miles and half
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Speaker 2: times a distance to the Moon, that's that's scary. Well
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Speaker 2: not if you watch asteroids a lot, as Ian o'
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Speaker 2: O'Neil does, who's a media relations specialist at NASA's Jet
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Speaker 2: Propulsion Laboratory, And he came out and told ABC News
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Speaker 2: this quote, this is very routine. If there was a threat,
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Speaker 2: you would hear from us. Unquote. I'd just like to
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Speaker 2: stop the quote right there. I think that's enough, drop
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Speaker 2: the mic. This is very routine, if there was a threat,
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Speaker 2: you would hear from us, well, Ian j O'Neil, I
19:33
Speaker 2: hope we would hear from you, by the way, Like
19:35
Speaker 2: but the next part of his statement is kind of funny,
19:38
Speaker 2: which she says again, quoting Ian J O'Neil, we would
19:42
Speaker 2: always put out alerts on our Planetary Defense blog. Does
19:49
Speaker 2: that mean I have to like every day? Like how
19:52
Speaker 2: many times a day do I need to be checking
19:54
Speaker 2: the Planetary Defense Blog? I don't like that part of
19:56
Speaker 2: your quote, Ian J O'Neil.
19:58
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's the slight uncomfortable part. It's like the
20:01
Speaker 5: whole like you mean, I'm supposed to follow that because
20:04
Speaker 5: nobody's going to tell me otherwise. I think I'd like
20:07
Speaker 5: to know if there was a problem.
20:08
Speaker 2: I mean, I think the Planetary Defense Blog might have
20:11
Speaker 2: a viewership that's maybe one tenth the size of our audience.
20:15
Speaker 2: You know, it's so who's out there checking the Planetary
20:20
Speaker 2: Defense block. We would have told you you would hear
20:22
Speaker 2: from us. We would post it on the Planetary Defense Blog.
20:26
Speaker 2: I think we got to do a bit better than that. Wes,
20:28
Speaker 2: you might want to go ahead and, oh, I don't know,
20:30
Speaker 2: pass it on to a news outlet.
20:32
Speaker 5: Maybe we can make this arrangement with our listeners. If
20:37
Speaker 5: this were to become a problem and we became aware
20:41
Speaker 5: of it being on the Planetary Defense Blog, maybe we
20:44
Speaker 5: would just record a very special episode of the show
20:46
Speaker 5: to tell you, hey, breaking news, you need to start
20:49
Speaker 5: digging a hole, like right now, just go ahead, dig
20:53
Speaker 5: the biggest hole you can dig, and you know, put
20:57
Speaker 5: your head between your legs in that hole and we'll
20:59
Speaker 5: all see what happens on the other side. We would
21:02
Speaker 5: tell you that. We would be like quick to tell
21:05
Speaker 5: you that we're not gonna make you go to our blog.
21:08
Speaker 5: All right, We're not gonna do that. We're gonna we're
21:10
Speaker 5: gonna get the word out. That's what we're gonna do.
21:12
Speaker 4: That's our plage.
21:13
Speaker 2: Jan j O'Neill. We're proud of you that you've surprised
21:17
Speaker 2: Doge thus far, so good job there. But I will
21:21
Speaker 2: I will just tell you on behalf of the you know,
21:23
Speaker 2: producers and listeners of the Native Stars podcast, that quote
21:27
Speaker 2: we would always put it out alerts on our Planetary
21:31
Speaker 2: Defense blog. Unquote is not reassuring.
21:34
Speaker 5: Maybe he didn't survive Doje and he just hasn't read
21:37
Speaker 5: it on the Doge blog yet and he's like, oh,
21:39
Speaker 5: you mean that's how I was supposed to find out
21:40
Speaker 5: that I'm not supposed to still be here now.
21:44
Speaker 2: Like the only way to find out if you were
21:45
Speaker 2: a cover from your job was to go check the
21:47
Speaker 2: Doge blog. You might be checking that several times a day. Yeah,
21:49
Speaker 2: we're talking about rocks hitting the Earth. Yeah, that would
21:53
Speaker 2: so I would just like to put out I would
21:56
Speaker 2: just like to put this out to our listeners here.
21:57
Speaker 2: I'm made of stars. You know, if we all were
21:59
Speaker 2: to get I think we can cover this. Let's just
22:02
Speaker 2: all once in a while, just all of us individually
22:05
Speaker 2: log in once in a while to the Planetary Defense Blog.
22:08
Speaker 2: Just hit it once in a while. And you know,
22:10
Speaker 2: by the massive numbers of all the listeners to this podcast,
22:13
Speaker 2: if we all just hit it once in a while,
22:15
Speaker 2: we'll be if you find something like, hey, they just
22:18
Speaker 2: posted on the Planetary Defense Blog that Apofus has changed
22:22
Speaker 2: course and is going to absolutely run into New York City.
22:25
Speaker 2: If you find that on the Planetary Defense Blog, let
22:28
Speaker 2: Wes and I know, and we will get a special
22:30
Speaker 2: edition of Native Stars out to the public as fast
22:33
Speaker 2: as possible.
22:34
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna check, and then we'll get the word out.
22:36
Speaker 5: That's the thing we're going to assure you on. And
22:38
Speaker 5: it's almost like we're this next story where we're letting
22:41
Speaker 5: you also know this because this has spread like wildfire
22:45
Speaker 5: on social media, and the first time I read it,
22:48
Speaker 5: I injured my eyes rolling them because yes, this story
22:55
Speaker 5: about an eclipse that will make the entire planet go
23:00
Speaker 5: dark for six minutes. Now, as you pointed out, there
23:05
Speaker 5: can be some element of truth to these stories. First
23:09
Speaker 5: of all, half the planet is always dark, right, I mean,
23:13
Speaker 5: it's it's called night time, So that's like we're starting
23:18
Speaker 5: at that. If that's our baseline, then yeah, okay, half
23:21
Speaker 5: the planet'll be dark. And then guess what places, especially
23:26
Speaker 5: those experiencing totality, are going to go dark during an eclipse,
23:29
Speaker 5: because that's how eclipses work. We just had one here
23:33
Speaker 5: not long ago, and if you went to one of
23:36
Speaker 5: the areas for totality, yeah, you got complete darkness in
23:39
Speaker 5: those areas, but that doesn't encompass the entire hemisphere that's
23:44
Speaker 5: not experiencing night So no, the whole planet isn't going
23:49
Speaker 5: to go dark for six minutes. But there is an
23:52
Speaker 5: eclipse coming in twenty twenty seven.
23:55
Speaker 2: So you know, I love my friends who come up
23:59
Speaker 2: and ask me questions about astronomy because it shows that
24:02
Speaker 2: they're interested, and that's really what I try to foster.
24:05
Speaker 2: I try to foster an interest in science. And astronomy,
24:08
Speaker 2: and so when they read something on you know, that
24:11
Speaker 2: social media platform that begins with F or wherever, something
24:16
Speaker 2: like that. If they get online somewhere and they read
24:19
Speaker 2: a new story about astronomy and it strikes them as interesting,
24:23
Speaker 2: they have an eagerness to share it with me. And
24:25
Speaker 2: I appreciate this. So if any of you are in
24:29
Speaker 2: my friend group, I'm not talking about you, okay, but
24:33
Speaker 2: but if you read I'm those other people. If you
24:38
Speaker 2: read a headline that says half the planet's going to
24:41
Speaker 2: go dark, as West just very astutely pointed out, that's
24:45
Speaker 2: called night. It happened just a few hours ago. I
24:50
Speaker 2: mean it's happening as we speak.
24:53
Speaker 5: Yeah it is, but I mean here where we are,
24:56
Speaker 5: it was just going on not long ago. I mean,
24:58
Speaker 5: I didn't know we needed to do a breaking news
25:00
Speaker 5: episode of Made of Stars coming up as the sun
25:04
Speaker 5: starts to set.
25:05
Speaker 2: In an unprecedented development, half the planet has gone dark.
25:11
Speaker 5: I just traveled halfway around the world. We crossed the
25:14
Speaker 5: date line. It was very confusing.
25:16
Speaker 2: We looked out and we were like, it was just light.
25:18
Speaker 4: Now it's dark. What's going on? There must be an.
25:21
Speaker 2: Eclipse about like three fourths of the planet was dark
25:23
Speaker 2: and that would be a news story. Yeah it did, Okay,
25:26
Speaker 2: all right, so let me dial it back. The headline
25:30
Speaker 2: said that because of an eclipse that's going to happen
25:35
Speaker 2: on August second, just a few days from now, August
25:38
Speaker 2: second of twenty twenty five, that half the Earth will
25:42
Speaker 2: go dark and there'll be night and a little tiny
25:47
Speaker 2: strip of a shadow because the moon's moving in front
25:50
Speaker 2: of the sun. Okay, part of that story is true.
25:53
Speaker 2: Half the Earth will actually go dark and we will
25:55
Speaker 2: still call it night. The rest of it's not true
25:59
Speaker 2: at all. There is no eclipse on August second, twenty
26:01
Speaker 2: twenty five. So if you're out there, you're reading this
26:04
Speaker 2: story on Facebook. Maybe you just read it and you
26:08
Speaker 2: decided to tune into NATO Stars to find out the
26:10
Speaker 2: veracity of this particular story, let me assure you false.
26:15
Speaker 2: No solar eclipse August twenty August second, of twenty twenty five.
26:21
Speaker 2: There is, however, a kernel of truth west First of all,
26:25
Speaker 2: night does exist. Half the Earth does go dark pretty
26:29
Speaker 2: much all the time. The other part is that on
26:32
Speaker 2: August second of twenty twenty seven, see here it is
26:37
Speaker 2: now August second, twenty twenty seven, there's going to be
26:42
Speaker 2: a solar eclipse visible from Europe, North Africa, and the
26:50
Speaker 2: Middle East. And if you happen to be in one
26:53
Speaker 2: of those special regions inside the band of totality passing
26:59
Speaker 2: through part of Europe, North Africa, in the Middle East,
27:03
Speaker 2: you might see up to six minutes of darkness in
27:07
Speaker 2: that very thin band. But see, here's the cool thing again,
27:12
Speaker 2: the kernel of truth buried down in here somewhere is
27:15
Speaker 2: actually kind of interesting. This is going to make this
27:18
Speaker 2: one of the longest total solar eclipses visible over land
27:24
Speaker 2: on planet Earth between the years of nineteen ninety one
27:28
Speaker 2: and twenty one fourteen. So there's something kind of special
27:33
Speaker 2: about August second, and you know, something going to darkness.
27:38
Speaker 2: It's just not this year. It's not half the planet,
27:41
Speaker 2: and it's not even in North America. So there you go, friends,
27:44
Speaker 2: there is going to be an eclipse twenty twenty seven,
27:47
Speaker 2: August second that will last in some places over six
27:50
Speaker 2: minutes in length, making it the longest solar eclipse visible
27:55
Speaker 2: from land between the years nineteen ninety one It's great year,
27:59
Speaker 2: and twenty one fourteen.
28:02
Speaker 4: And we make this pledge to you here.
28:05
Speaker 5: It made of Stars that if there were something that
28:08
Speaker 5: we're going to block out the sun for the entire
28:11
Speaker 5: planet for any length of time, and we had any
28:14
Speaker 5: sort of heads up about it, even if we didn't
28:16
Speaker 5: have to find it on the Planetary Defense Blog, or
28:19
Speaker 5: if we did, we would make sure that we would
28:21
Speaker 5: give you a special heads up with a very special
28:24
Speaker 5: edition of Made of Stars. By the way, don't expect
28:26
Speaker 5: to have any sunlight for a while anywhere on the planet.
28:30
Speaker 5: That would be breaking news, and we would make sure
28:32
Speaker 5: to give that, especially if there was somehow an eclipse
28:36
Speaker 5: that caused that to happen for the entire planet. That
28:40
Speaker 5: alone would be unprecedented, because it would also mean that
28:44
Speaker 5: the Moon was a lot bigger.
28:47
Speaker 2: Or it got a lot closer, grew substantially, or somehow
28:53
Speaker 2: it varied in its orbital where it's really close to
28:55
Speaker 2: the Earth. Now one of those two things.
28:58
Speaker 5: And if you're one of those people that believes the
28:59
Speaker 5: Moon is just full of air and it's hollow and
29:03
Speaker 5: it maybe could be inflated even more, we would we
29:06
Speaker 5: would pass that along. If any element of any of
29:10
Speaker 5: that was true, we would do a breaking news episode.
29:13
Speaker 2: I'm sure we hear from Ian J. O'Neil at the
29:15
Speaker 2: Jepard Bols.
29:16
Speaker 5: We still we may hear from Ian Jay O'Neil anyway,
29:19
Speaker 5: because we got people who are listening to this show
29:21
Speaker 5: that may know him.
29:23
Speaker 2: All right. By the way, by the way, Ian, we
29:25
Speaker 2: do not want you to be dosed, by the way.
29:26
Speaker 2: We don't. We don't. We want you there writing that
29:29
Speaker 2: Planetary Defense blog. We need you. We did we get.
29:32
Speaker 5: Only in fun. It's only in jest. There is no
29:35
Speaker 5: no negativity there. And if you are sharing this with
29:39
Speaker 5: him right now as a listener, thanks for listening. And
29:42
Speaker 5: really we're just kidding.
29:44
Speaker 2: We promise we want you on that blog. We need
29:46
Speaker 2: you on that blog.
29:48
Speaker 5: Coming up, after one more quick break, we'll talk about
29:51
Speaker 5: an actual story that it doesn't like it lives up
29:55
Speaker 5: to the hype. I guess is maybe the way to
29:57
Speaker 5: describe it. We'll do that right after this, all right.
30:22
Speaker 5: So it's always fun when we can even speculate about this,
30:26
Speaker 5: or when there's a possibility of it and it's not
30:29
Speaker 5: a common thing where we're able to go, oh wow,
30:32
Speaker 5: we got something that's come in from outside of our
30:34
Speaker 5: solar system. So this is always fun when we find
30:37
Speaker 5: a story like this in Hubble has spotted a comment
30:40
Speaker 5: that's come in and this story is actually real.
30:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this this story was first well, let me
30:48
Speaker 2: say it just differently. The discovery of this object was
30:51
Speaker 2: first made by the Atlas Survey telescope. And the Atlas
30:55
Speaker 2: Survey Telescope is a special telescope designed to observe large
30:59
Speaker 2: swa of the sky so that they can they're cataloging many,
31:04
Speaker 2: many objects all at once. So it's not a high
31:07
Speaker 2: magnification really taking a tight look at one object. It's
31:11
Speaker 2: more of a wide view, take a look at many
31:14
Speaker 2: objects at the same time kind of telescope. And that's
31:18
Speaker 2: why it has in recent years discovered lots of brand
31:21
Speaker 2: new comets, because if you're taking a look at a
31:24
Speaker 2: broad swath of the sky with really high resolution and
31:28
Speaker 2: light gathering capabilities, you're gonna find a lot of comets
31:31
Speaker 2: kind of zipping through the field of view. So there's
31:33
Speaker 2: been a lot of Comet Atlases lately, all right, And
31:36
Speaker 2: that's why. It's because the comets are named after the
31:40
Speaker 2: discoverer of the comet, all right. So there we go.
31:42
Speaker 2: So there's a new one. It's called Comet three I
31:46
Speaker 2: Atlas Comet three eye Atlas discovered on July first by
31:52
Speaker 2: the Atlas Atlas Survey Telescope. That's twenty twenty five, by
31:56
Speaker 2: the way, July first of this year. And so now
31:59
Speaker 2: the Hubble Space Tells Hope has been doing some follow
32:01
Speaker 2: up observations. The real story here, it's out on space
32:04
Speaker 2: dot com today as we're recording. It's it's actually, uh,
32:08
Speaker 2: a new Hubble image has been released. So the Hubble
32:11
Speaker 2: Space telescope image of this object has been released. But
32:14
Speaker 2: that's not why this is really newsworthy. You know, since
32:17
Speaker 2: the last time that Wes and I have recorded a
32:20
Speaker 2: podcast together, there have been some new discoveries about this
32:24
Speaker 2: comment three I at Lias, and that's that it has
32:27
Speaker 2: a trajectory that very much looks like it came from
32:29
Speaker 2: outside of our solar system. So that's the thing. It's
32:33
Speaker 2: it's a it's a visitor from another star.
32:35
Speaker 5: And that's what the eye and the catalog name is.
32:38
Speaker 5: It's interesting, I.
32:39
Speaker 2: Believe, so, right, So it's it's yes, interstellar, right, it's
32:42
Speaker 2: an interstellar comet. So this this would be the third
32:46
Speaker 2: third interstellar Yeah, okay, it is actually the third of
32:49
Speaker 2: this class of objects. I should back up and say
32:52
Speaker 2: only the third right. So it is only the third
32:55
Speaker 2: object that we've ever discovered that we can verify has
33:00
Speaker 2: some sort of an interstellar trajectory as it zips its
33:03
Speaker 2: way through our solar system. In other words, it's not
33:06
Speaker 2: really orbiting the Sun. It's not a member of the
33:09
Speaker 2: Sun's family. It's coming from the outside the other two
33:13
Speaker 2: or comment one eye, oh muamoah, you can come again.
33:19
Speaker 2: I had trouble the first time. That's a Hawaiian word.
33:22
Speaker 2: By the way, I don't speak Hawaiian very well. I
33:24
Speaker 2: got to visit Hawaii recently and found out I can't
33:26
Speaker 2: say any of their names. Okay, So comment o'mu amooah
33:31
Speaker 2: back in twenty seventeen, and commet Borisov back in twenty nineteen,
33:38
Speaker 2: and o' muamua was one eye, Borisov is two I,
33:43
Speaker 2: and now Comet Atlas is three I, the third interstellar
33:47
Speaker 2: comma to be discovered. And a really interesting part about
33:51
Speaker 2: the story is it's coming from a very interesting place
33:54
Speaker 2: in the Milky Way. It's coming from a place where
33:57
Speaker 2: the stars formed a lot earlier in time than our
34:01
Speaker 2: own son. In other words, these stars and solar systems
34:04
Speaker 2: around them formed something like seven billion years ago, whereas
34:11
Speaker 2: our solar system only formed about four and a half
34:13
Speaker 2: billion years ago. So in other words, this comet is
34:15
Speaker 2: almost twice the age of any of the objects in
34:20
Speaker 2: our own solar system. This is actually the oldest comet
34:24
Speaker 2: we've ever seen. If all of those things are true,
34:28
Speaker 2: this would make it the oldest comet that we've ever seen.
34:30
Speaker 2: So doing spectral analysis and really taking a detailed look
34:35
Speaker 2: at this comet is really important now. As almost as
34:40
Speaker 2: a side note that might go along with the previous
34:42
Speaker 2: two stories that we had, there has been a Harvard
34:46
Speaker 2: professor by the name of a Vi Lobe. If you
34:49
Speaker 2: know of Avi Lobe, you probably know that he's the
34:51
Speaker 2: Harvard professor that's very interested in objects made by other
34:56
Speaker 2: intelligences outside of our solar system. Shall we call it
34:59
Speaker 2: that people from my neck of the woods would have
35:02
Speaker 2: said UFOs. He likes those UFOs. We all right, So
35:06
Speaker 2: he's very interested in the possibility of objects being created
35:09
Speaker 2: by alien technology. And back in twenty seventeen, when he
35:13
Speaker 2: realized that comet O'muamoa was actually an interstellar commet, he
35:18
Speaker 2: claimed that Comet o'mu moo was likely a piece of
35:22
Speaker 2: alien technology, and we all listened because he was from Harvard.
35:27
Speaker 5: That's right, But.
35:29
Speaker 2: Then other scientists did follow up observations. Now auvi Lobe
35:34
Speaker 2: has come out and said that this newly discovered Comet
35:38
Speaker 2: three I Atlas is very likely a piece of alien technology.
35:43
Speaker 5: There it is. Yeah, I knew that's where this is.
35:45
Speaker 2: And he's given a whole list of reasons why he
35:48
Speaker 2: thinks that. Thank goodness, there are people out there like
35:52
Speaker 2: our good friend, doctor Tony Phillips. He feels like a friend.
35:55
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm not your good friend. I'm just listening
35:58
Speaker 2: to the podcast, Tony. If you're listening to the podcast,
35:59
Speaker 2: you feel like a friend of ours because we have
36:02
Speaker 2: read your website faithfully for decades and we talk about
36:05
Speaker 2: it all the time on the radio. When we were
36:07
Speaker 2: on the radio and now on the podcast. We love
36:10
Speaker 2: spaceweather dot com. And for the rest of you listeners,
36:13
Speaker 2: this is why we love spaceweather dot com because doctor
36:15
Speaker 2: Tony Phillips has gone out and reviewed all of the
36:19
Speaker 2: claims from Harvard professor a Vilobe and posted it up
36:24
Speaker 2: just a few days ago on July twenty first, So
36:27
Speaker 2: if you would like to read all of Auvilobe's claims
36:31
Speaker 2: about three I Atlas and why he thinks it's a
36:33
Speaker 2: piece of alien technology. And then you would like to
36:36
Speaker 2: further read doctor Tony phillips follow up comments to all
36:40
Speaker 2: of those claims. They are excellent. Check out spaceweather dot
36:45
Speaker 2: com in the upper right hand corner you can go
36:48
Speaker 2: hit the archive, pull up the date of July twenty
36:51
Speaker 2: first of twenty twenty five, and see how real scientists
36:55
Speaker 2: debate real science issues. It's a great piece of it's
37:00
Speaker 2: just fun space news, but it's also a really good
37:03
Speaker 2: way to look at the kind of analytical thinking that
37:06
Speaker 2: scientists engage in two to support or debunk other claims.
37:12
Speaker 5: I got a text message yesterday from one of Jake's
37:16
Speaker 5: very best friends, a Rouche, who has been enjoying time
37:21
Speaker 5: at camp at the Columbus State University Coca Cola Space
37:25
Speaker 5: Science Center this week, and he was just updating me
37:28
Speaker 5: on what was going on uh there at camp uh.
37:31
Speaker 5: And I know you guys are in full swing with
37:33
Speaker 5: the camps. And then you guys also have something going
37:35
Speaker 5: on with Dave Scott.
37:39
Speaker 2: We have so many things going on West It's it's
37:42
Speaker 2: just great. Yeah, any time you guys, I know the
37:45
Speaker 2: camp that the that your that your son's friend of
37:47
Speaker 2: Rush is part of is a it's actually part of
37:50
Speaker 2: our summer Academy for Robotics. Uh. It's uh. It's supported
37:55
Speaker 2: in part by Pratt and Whitney, and Pratt and Whitney
37:58
Speaker 2: has made available these slots within the academy camp to
38:02
Speaker 2: cut for students to apply to these positions, come in
38:04
Speaker 2: and learn how to build robots and do engineering. So
38:07
Speaker 2: we hope that A. Rush and all of his friends
38:09
Speaker 2: are having a great time in this week's camp. I
38:12
Speaker 2: will tell you that the summer camps at the Space
38:15
Speaker 2: Science Center have taken major steps forward and we've even
38:18
Speaker 2: have now a dedicated robotics laboratory. It's a robotics education
38:23
Speaker 2: lab here at the Space Science Center. That's going to
38:26
Speaker 2: be just a room with a full of equipment that
38:28
Speaker 2: students and even teachers can come in and learn how
38:32
Speaker 2: to do the basic processes of robotics, which is really
38:35
Speaker 2: great because we need to know more about this technology
38:38
Speaker 2: as we become an even more advanced technological civilization. All right,
38:42
Speaker 2: so that's going on, But you're right, we do have
38:45
Speaker 2: a great event taking place at the bo Bartlett Center,
38:47
Speaker 2: which is an art Gallery. Right down the street here
38:49
Speaker 2: from the Space Science Center, we have the David Scott
38:52
Speaker 2: Exhibit down at bo Bartlett. Dave Scott, commander of Apollo fifteen,
38:57
Speaker 2: through his brother Tom, has donated many pieces to our
39:00
Speaker 2: Coca Cola Space Science Center, so many in fact, that
39:02
Speaker 2: we couldn't put them all on display at the same time,
39:05
Speaker 2: so we have outsourced for a period of time some
39:08
Speaker 2: of those pieces to be put on display down at
39:11
Speaker 2: the Bow Bartlett Center here at Columbus State University. You
39:14
Speaker 2: can check them out at the bow Bartlett Center this summer.
39:17
Speaker 2: That exhibit is going to be winding up though within
39:19
Speaker 2: the next few weeks, so make sure and head down
39:21
Speaker 2: there now. Check out the exhibit on the Dave Scott
39:25
Speaker 2: Artifacts and Memorabilia now on exhibit and display at the
39:28
Speaker 2: Bow Bartlett Center here at Columbus State University, a sister
39:32
Speaker 2: organization of the Coca Cola Space Science Center at Columbus
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Speaker 5: It's sponsored by Columbus State University's Coca Cola Space Science Center,
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