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How Bad Is It? · Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott

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  Well, good morning, friends, ruminators, ladies, and gentlemen wherever you
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  may be. Thank you for listening wherever however, We appreciate it very much.
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  He's Grant Allen, running the radio program known as The Morning Show with
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  Me Preston Scott. I'm Preston and this is Azus Rodriguez. He is a
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  retired member of the United States Border Patrol, retired agent and Azeus. Welcome
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  back to the show. Hello, my friend, how are you? Good
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  morning? So? How you doing find yourself? I'm doing okay. We
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  went through a list, I mean, the big stories in the press box
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  today were many, but I have to ask you about the one that we've
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  decided is the biggest. Mexico's president Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador are telling sixty minutes
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  paraphrasing that the flow of migrants will continue into the United States unless the US
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  meets his demands. Yeah, I saw that too. I started laughing in
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  jeez, Louis boy, or mean, health hop is now by Mexico.
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  Okay, is that how you view it? Do you view it the way
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  that many are. That's diplomatic blackmail? Oh, I would think so.
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  Yeah, I have to say so, that's exactly what it is, because
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  they're basically saying, yeah, we can control it, but we're not going
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  to let's, you know, let's you do what we want to do.
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  What do you think, rank and file? I mean, what do you
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  think first as a guy who has dealt with this for better than two decades
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  of your life, as a resident of Arizona, who deals with this each
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  and every day in some form or fashion. And then secondly is there's what
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  do you think your fellow agents think of a statement like that? Well,
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  well, let me go back for a second. Back, so back in
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  the day, we would if we had issues with with certain people, and
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  we knew that they couldn't control everything because they were outnumbered in a lot of
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  different areas. But if we could have them control certain areas and certain people
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  that you know on the on the Mexican side, we know we had the
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  ability to talk to them and they would do whatever as best they could to
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  control it or push it somewhere else, you know, and and kind of
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  work with us in that in that sense. But now, I mean,
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  you're talking about these record numbers that how can they control them? I mean
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  the people on the ground, not so much in his position uh a lot.
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  But the people that that are on the ground, how can you know?
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  They're out numbered, so they're kind of trying to do as best they
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  can to control it. But again there's the politics, you know, stick
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  their head and everything, so it makes it even worse. The reality is,
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  as you pointed out in a note to me, is agents now are
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  required to process numbers that were never ever meant to be processed. Exactly,
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  yes, because now you have agents process and you have agents having to to
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  care for them and feed them, et cetera, et cetera, and transport
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  them from point A to point B. So you know now that it's overwhelming.
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  So you you're you know, you're basically processing numbers and getting them in
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  and getting them out as as you can, because you have a certain time
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  limit that you have to to meet in order to get them in and get
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  them out, and get them out to another facility where they can handle them,
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  whether it's a largest attention facility or whether it's to all of these you
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  know, get them out of the of the Borgteal's hands and into these shelters.
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  Talk us through kind of an average sort of way that this works.
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  By that, I mean our agents assigned. Okay, you're going to be
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  out on patrol, you're going to be working this sector of defence. This
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  group is going to be doing this, another going to be inside processing,
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  and then it rotates. How does that actually function? So so when all
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  this began present the agents were basically assigned to uh picking up the the illegal
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  aliens wherever they were in those in along the border and then getting them to
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  a spot where they could uh you know, do a more thorough search of
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  them in a lot of different ways and then finally get some bio information on
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  them and put them on a on a transport bus or a van and get
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  them to the near station or station that they were near. There's too and
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  then from there it was just like an initial process. And then in some
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  instances they would pack certain people and buses and send them out to other stations
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  or you know, to other larger facilities. So it was, you know,
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  the ability to work the traffic, so to speak, was it didn't
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  exist because they were basically, as some of the agents mentioned to me,
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  they were. They were basically the the uber drivers for for all these people.
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  common sense amplified in your ears with a Zeus Rodriguez, former US Border
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  Patrol agent. So, if you're an agent that is out there patrolling,
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  are you patrolling on roads or are you patrolling on backroads, dirt roads along
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  the fence line, along the fence line something we call them cut roads.
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  They're road that that that are that run kind of parallel the border road.
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  And so you're looking for foot sign out there. You know, they have
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  people that have crossed those areas. Uh, in some of the remote areas,
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  there can be there could be at vs, there can be people on
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  horseback transporting narcotics. So yeah, that's they're basically that's what they're doing out
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  there. They're they're working at that traffic out there. And so when when
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  those agents apprehend x number of illegals and the ZIP time or whatever and they
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  transport into a station for processing. Are those agents then going right back out
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  and picking up where they left off. So the way it worked Preston was
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  that you would pick them up, get into a van uh and and do
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  a fuel processing them out there, search them, go through their contents and
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  their backpacks. Uh. You know, if something stuck out in an individual,
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  you'd you would make a note of it on the on the field reports
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  and then from there they'd be sent to the station where they would be processed.
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  So back you know in the days when you didn't have the the the
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  most that you had, you had an opportunity to look at you know,
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  kind of look once over somebody, or listen to what people were saying or
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  sure or you know, listen to the stories. And then you would if
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  you had to reflect somebody, so to speak. You you do that and
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  when they get to the station and then they do some further investigation. But
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  with the numbers you have now, you know, you don't have that ability
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  just basically get them in the van and get them out. That's basically what
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  And now the heat coming on here in the west, right, so it's
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  going to be more important to get him in and get him out out to
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  a cooler facility, will okay. But as the agents are loading them up
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  and transporting them to another location, they're no longer on those cut roads,
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  right, Nope, Nope, they got to go back out and there's not
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  another group of agents go into those same cut roads while that group of agents
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  is coming back correct and maybe not because they maybe tied up with it depends
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  on the size of the group. Depends the size of the group that you're
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  dealing with, and doesn't what they have and then going on in their area.
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  Well, and that's why I'm asking, do you is it your sense
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  that and I think I know the answer to this, but for the sake
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  of listeners, would it be your sense that the cartels, the smugglers,
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  they know this, and so the people they want to get across the border,
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  uh, and let them become godaways. The people that don't want to
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  be caught, that's the time to get them. As you sort of get
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  a group there that might not be all that important, but then after they've
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  been caught and brought away, then you send your next crew through. Oh
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  yeah, easily. Oh yeah. You sacrifice a larger group to get something
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  a smaller group, and that's a little bit more that casl lot more money.
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  And then keep in mind too, ship change. They know when the
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  ship change begins, to know when agents have to start heading back to the
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  station. And so they'll run another you know, they'll run multiple groups through,
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  you know, a larger group through when the agents start to leave the
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  area as the other as an oncoming agents are making their way into the area.
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  See I mentioned that because another story came out this week of a forty
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  eight year old leader of MS thirteen that was captured on the FBI's most wanted
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  list at the California Mexico border. And and I just got the thinking of
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  our conversations and how many we don't know about. And that's that's exactly what
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  it is pressing, because if we don't know, if there's not an interval
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  hit on some of these people that are coming across, there's really no way
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  of knowing what their their past is from wherever the country they're coming from,
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  unless you sense you have to. You have to listen to what they're saying
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  and how they say it. And I could target explain to you, but
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  it's your You have a sense of spider sense that will that may kick off
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  at that you know at that point, or a tattoo that you know that
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  that you may see on them on their arms right and somewhere on their body,
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  something that that will we'll all all of a sudden send a red flag
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  in your head and you start poking a little bit more seeing what's going on.
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  You have that ability, then you may still have a little bit of
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  ability now, but maybe not in the in the numbers that you did in
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  the past. So it sets off ahol these like I said, bells and
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  whistles. When you get somebody like that, we would call it. I
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  mean, clearly, a lot of the people that are coming to this country
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  are just wanting a better life. But there are legal ways to enter this
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  country, and sadly, we have an administration making it very easy for people
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  to illegally enter this country. But that journey is fraught with danger. In
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  AZEUS Rodriguez with US, a retired US Border Patrol Agent AZEUS, these illegal
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  immigrants are targeted, Oh yes, sir, They're targeted from the very the
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  time they start to make their way into some of these countries that they that
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  they passed through, especially they're coming from South America. So even when they
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  get up to the border, you know, they're they're running a gauntlet of
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  bandits, and and even even if if they were across the border and and
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  UH and start making their ways northbound, not just giving up like they like
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  a lot of them are doing now, but they're beginning northbound. They can
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  also be robbed near the border area as well, assaulted, rape, I
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  mean, there's a number of things that can happen to them. I mean,
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  I'm curious, is this is this a racket in the sense could cartels
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  be robbing them on the front end to create situations desperation on the back end
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  where they then have to make arrangements with the cartaels to keep paying them to
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  get them into the country. That's a possibility, But I mean, you're
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  looking at these guys, it's it's it's like it's in the past. It's
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  a tentacle look of all these the cartels. So you have them that they
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  can be robbed south of the line by cartel associated members. They can be
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  robbed prior right before they get the line. They can be robbed on the
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  way, you know, being transported down to the to the line. You
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  know, even across UH into you know, they head north down. So
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  it's just there's so many ways that they can be you know, they can
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  be taking advantage of by so many different people. How does that and then
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  if they get to a to a to a fash house they could at the
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  same day that can happen there. How does this pose a threat? How
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  does this spill over to agents so on along the border? You when if
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  they're getting robbed, you know there a lot of these cartoon members are using
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  firearms. So if there's there can be a confrontation between a cartel member or
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  a bandit UH and so a rip crew as we would call them rip crew,
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  and so there could be a confrontation, and so they just are are
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  in danger of that happening. Before. We had an incident number of years
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  ago where the cartel UH basically executed it about the five or six guys,
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  right, Nick, I mean probably with the storm still of the border,
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  and they left one guy to live so he could tell the rest of them.
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  And what they did with him is they cut his throat. He was
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  able to survive, he was able to make it north of the border and
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  put it ran into an agent. My goodness. So it's it's yeah,
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  it's an ongoing thing. Person, this is this is been happening. So
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  they they rubbed the running that coppin on a on a regular basis, and
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  then talk about the women that can be sexually assaulted out there as well.
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  We talk about rank and file police officers in certain jurisdictions in the country that
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  just are overwhelmed with frustration because they arrest people and judges turn them loose.
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  District attorneys request no request, a one dollar bail or none whatsoever, and
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  they turn them loose. I can't imagine what agents think when they see a
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  story like this. Immigration judges have thrown out two hundred thousand deportation cases simply
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  because the Biden administration did not file paperwork on time. Simply well amazing,
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  yes, but not amazing because that's now. I'm used to all of the
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  way this is all working out now. And the one question person should be
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  is what kind of why were those individuals set up for deportations? Today?
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  Were they were they set up for deportation because they were a criminal, and
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  and so what kind of crimes did they commit? That was? That should
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  be a question that people should be asking, why were they what kind of
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  crimes did these people commit in order for them to be set up for deportation?
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  Hearing what's interesting and when you dig deeper into the data, cities in
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  Texas and Florida had roughly fifty percent of its cases dismissed New Jersey, Washington,
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  in California less than four percent. Wow, I didn't know that one's
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  I mean, that speaks to an intentional liberate plan to release illegal immigrants,
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  the worst of the worst, the deep those set for deportation into the states
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  trying to fight illegal immigration. Oh yeah, that's that's is exuly what it
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  sounds like. That's exactly what it sounds like, I mean. And so
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  as an agent, there's not much you can do. You're tasked with processing
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  and getting them to the facility, and then from there it falls on the
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  immigration judge to find and decide they're going to deport them or not or give
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  deport them in and in essential, even if they show that they don't show
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  up, or to give them an order of deportation and they have to leave
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  the country by a certain date, you know, get their their business and
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  order. So unfortunately, the agents are just tasked with processes and't get them
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  out and so the turnstile continues, Oh yeah, it's not going to stop
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  pressing. Then we're hitting the time of the year when when the numbers you
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  know, start to spike because the weather is warmer, it's not as it's
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  not as cold as it was a few months ago. So now you're looking
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  at at at the number start probably working a spike. And then you're also
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  looking at this at the agents having to be tied up with having you to
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  provide uh, you know, possible first hid because they come across and they're
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  dehydrated. Zeus is always thanks for the time. We'll talk again soon.
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  Thank you, sir. Take here, Thank you. Azeus Rodriguez with Us
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  Bright and Early in Arizona Live on the Morning Show with Preston Scott. Yeah,