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Speaker 5: Good morning and welcome into this Tuesday edition of Chugging
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Speaker 5: Back in the Morning. Sports Radio ninety three point three
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Speaker 5: k j RFM. Ware everybody. I was talking to my
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Speaker 5: buddy in Kansas City on his radio show yesterday and
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Speaker 5: he wasn't buying that my coffee was championship coffee, and
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Speaker 5: then my toast tasted more champion than it did the
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Speaker 5: day before. He he didn't think I had anything to
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Speaker 5: do with that. Yeah, well, how about the nerve on
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Speaker 5: that guy? Yeah?
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Speaker 7: Really, yeah, that's horny, that's horn Yeah about that.
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Speaker 5: I mean ten years of hot takes about the Seahawks
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Speaker 5: and he doesn't think I contributed to our championship. I mean, like,
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Speaker 5: who else has an opinion out there? Yes, off your
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Speaker 5: high horse?
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Speaker 3: Right, God night, guys, what actually goes on?
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Speaker 5: I'll have a word with him. Don't you worry about that?
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Speaker 5: Let him have it. Good morning. We are championship people
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Speaker 5: around these here parts here in Seattle, and I hope
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Speaker 5: you are enjoying your championship experience. Tomorrow we will celebrate
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Speaker 5: it as a giant group of champions here in the
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Speaker 5: streets of Seattle and joining us on the program today
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Speaker 5: right off the bat. Rarely do we give you a
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Speaker 5: guest right off the bat. But you know something, this
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Speaker 5: guy is an active, excellent NFL media member. He's a
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Speaker 5: historian of the sport and he always has his eye
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Speaker 5: on the future of the sport as well. And I
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Speaker 5: thought he was the perfect guest to have on today
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Speaker 5: as we come to grips with how to remain champions
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Speaker 5: here in Seattle, joining us from CBS Sports, it is
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Speaker 5: Charles Davis. Good morning, Charles, Good morning guys.
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Speaker 8: Really nice to talk with you.
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Speaker 9: And one quick thing, Yes, I would call Buddy and
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Speaker 9: the city and say, hey, I want your tapes from
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Speaker 9: the post Super Bowls the Chiefs won.
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Speaker 8: And here if you were taking credit or not. Yeah,
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Speaker 8: I guess my guess is that he was.
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Speaker 5: I'm thinking I'm thinking he's still trying to remind us
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Speaker 5: in Seattle that is this is just one title with
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Speaker 5: this particular team, and that wake me when you've won three.
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Speaker 5: I think that was his way of saying it just
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Speaker 5: being nasty, Charles, That's typical of that guy.
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Speaker 8: Listen, That's just that's just the way we are, you know.
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Speaker 8: It's just how we interact.
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Speaker 9: That's that's our love language.
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Speaker 5: And precisely, well, it's great to have you on, Always
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Speaker 5: great to have you on. And uh, And of course,
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Speaker 5: like I said in the intro, I mean, well, I
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Speaker 5: have a lot of things that I want to discuss today,
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Speaker 5: and I was trying to think of the perfect guess
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Speaker 5: a historian, somebody who actively covers the National Football League.
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Speaker 5: And also, I mean you're draft coverage. You always got
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Speaker 5: an eye on the future. And so those are all
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Speaker 5: things we're gonna discuss today about our Seattle Seahawks. But
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Speaker 5: let's start with the present. We won the Super Bowl.
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Speaker 5: What did you think of that performance Charles by the
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Speaker 5: Seahawks on Sunday?
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Speaker 9: Every word E readjective that you would use on the
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Speaker 9: positive side would immediately come to mind. This was one
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Speaker 9: where going into it, sensis that Seattle felt very confident,
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Speaker 9: not boisterously, so quietly we are the better team.
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Speaker 8: We just need to play our game, play to our potential.
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Speaker 9: All the cliches that you run into, right, everything that
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Speaker 9: after a while the non.
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Speaker 8: Sports fan nods off because I've heard this before.
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Speaker 9: But then they just went out and executed because they
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Speaker 9: were so confident what they were doing. They didn't feel
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Speaker 9: the need, right, they didn't have to play outside of themselves, right,
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Speaker 9: they didn't need a heroic effort to make it happen,
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Speaker 9: and they just needed down. And what I thought was
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Speaker 9: very interesting was the.
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Speaker 8: We're all, we've got, we're all where you need chap
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Speaker 8: that became new England's.
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Speaker 10: Did I not?
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Speaker 9: We thought like I thought, That's what he used to
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Speaker 9: his dv's all the time. We're all we all were
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Speaker 9: need where we need, so here we are. But that
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Speaker 9: team was just dominant offensive line, defensive line. You thought
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Speaker 9: there was a decided advantage, and boy was pointed that
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Speaker 9: play out both sides.
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Speaker 8: Of the lot, and then it just took off from there.
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Speaker 7: Guys, Charles, was there anything that was overly surprising or
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Speaker 7: was the I mean, it was pretty dominant, maybe even
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Speaker 7: more so than the score indicated at the end. I mean,
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Speaker 7: was there anything that was surprising to you about the
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Speaker 7: way in which Seattle went there and kind of put
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Speaker 7: it on them?
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Speaker 9: I think that if I've taken New England's standpoint on it,
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Speaker 9: just their a building in Seattle's ability to run the
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Speaker 9: football with such consistency. Remember New England had shut down
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Speaker 9: everyone running the ball just like Seattle had.
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Speaker 8: So New England didn't go into it the idea that
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Speaker 8: they were just gonna get totally overwhelmed.
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Speaker 9: But the offensive line created a number of stalemates.
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Speaker 8: And then as the game went on, they started winning
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Speaker 8: all the battles of the lone of scrimmage.
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Speaker 9: But for Kenneth Walker, the groove he was in in
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Speaker 9: the playoffs, the stalemate was enough and the patience that
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Speaker 9: he ran with. Remember how Le'Veon Bell used to use
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Speaker 9: that hesitation in the backfield to just go We all
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Speaker 9: just went crazy on that move. Kenneth Walker didn't do
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Speaker 9: the hesitation as much as a true example of patients
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Speaker 9: and vision.
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Speaker 8: It had to be three or four runs right as
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Speaker 8: you recall, where it was.
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Speaker 9: Just like wait for it, wait for it, go and
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Speaker 9: when he went. I think that was probably one big spot.
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Speaker 9: I think other than that, the rest of it probably was.
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Speaker 9: And I'll say it very to sickly hear Mike McDonald's
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Speaker 9: adjustment of extra pressure as opposed to the regular season
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Speaker 9: and most of the playoffs where you just bought it,
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Speaker 9: brought your front line out him. Remember during the season
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Speaker 9: he blitzed at a rate of somewhere around twenty seven
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Speaker 9: to twenty eight percent.
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Speaker 8: It felt like seventy percent. Sunday night, He's.
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Speaker 5: Like, you know something, this is flat out sick them.
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Speaker 8: Let's go. We are in great shape. Let's go get them.
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Speaker 8: And boy did it payoff.
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Speaker 9: And what Witherspoon did as a blitzer was phenomenal, especially
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Speaker 9: that last one with Nuosu intercepting it out of the
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Speaker 9: air because he matched the hand of the quarterback.
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Speaker 8: I mean, you talk about textbook training tape.
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Speaker 9: The blitz, he gets to the quarterback, he takes his
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Speaker 9: left hand to match it to the throwing hand of
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Speaker 9: Drake May gets the wrist so he can't release the football.
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Speaker 9: It pops in the air and the wos who goes
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Speaker 9: the other way. That is a clip and save if
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Speaker 9: I've ever seen one in terms of blitzing and taking
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Speaker 9: out a quarterback about to throw the ball.
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Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, we had several conversations yesterday. I mean you
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Speaker 5: could have made a case for Witherspoon being the MVP
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Speaker 5: of that game. Yeah, Super Bowl sixty. Charles Davis is
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Speaker 5: with us, of course from NFL on CBS. We've seen
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Speaker 5: him on NFL Network as well, and we love having
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Speaker 5: Charles on and today seemed like a good day. And
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Speaker 5: now I'm going to tap into that historian part of
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Speaker 5: Charles Davis because this is something that I brought up
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Speaker 5: the last I don't know seven shows that we've done.
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Speaker 5: And here we sit in twenty twenty six with a team,
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Speaker 5: a young team that is coming off a dominant super
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Speaker 5: Bowl performance and seems to have a very bright future.
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Speaker 5: But here in Seattle, that happened once before, back in
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Speaker 5: twenty thirteen, a young team with a young, controlled quarterback
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Speaker 5: coming off a dominant Super Bowl performance, And here in Seattle,
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Speaker 5: we feel like that team should have won multiple titles
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Speaker 5: and they ended up only winning the one. I would
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Speaker 5: add ask you, Charles, this twenty twenty sixteen versus that
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Speaker 5: twenty thirteen team with Russell and the Lob, how did
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Speaker 5: they compare in your opinion? Why might it be different
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Speaker 5: this time around than it was only winning the one
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Speaker 5: title with that previous group.
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Speaker 1: I love the.
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Speaker 8: Question, and I'm gonna take it this way.
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Speaker 9: It's favorable for this group because you're not coming because
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Speaker 9: you can't take away what happened the second go round,
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Speaker 9: which was on the doorstep of history, winning two in
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Speaker 9: a row, up ten in the fourth quarter with eight
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Speaker 9: minutes to go, throwing the ball instead of running it,
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Speaker 9: blah blah blah, Right, Malcolm Butler happens. So I can't
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Speaker 9: take that away because I don't. I'm not sure that
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Speaker 9: one play change the fortunes of a franchise more in
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Speaker 9: the course of NFL history than Malcolm Butler's play, and
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Speaker 9: I know that sounds like hypurble.
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Speaker 8: The reason I've not done as confident.
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Speaker 9: True, But the reason I feel like I can stand
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Speaker 9: in that conversation with any other football historian is that
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Speaker 9: game wounded the psyche of that defense in terms.
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Speaker 8: Of trusting their quarterback and their head coach to the.
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Speaker 9: Point that they could still be good at times great,
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Speaker 9: but they could never get past it enough to put
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Speaker 9: them back in a position where they should have been
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Speaker 9: because that team wasn't old that team was ready to
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Speaker 9: break up. They went to Hawaii and said that they
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Speaker 9: all hugged it out and what have you, and they
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Speaker 9: didn't defense.
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Speaker 8: To Harbor to major grudge.
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Speaker 9: You're hearing about it now, Marshawn Lynch talking about we
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Speaker 9: never looked at Pete the same way because the trust
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Speaker 9: factor was broken. It's an all bubble to the surface
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Speaker 9: this week, even more so than even happened to past.
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Speaker 9: Richard Sherman can't stop taking shots at Russ no matter
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Speaker 9: what he does, so that changes the fortunes. That's why
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Speaker 9: I have much more bullish on this group, because you
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Speaker 9: don't have any of that at this moment, and I'm
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Speaker 9: not sure that we have the defensive personalities of twenty
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Speaker 9: thirteen fourteen. You know how dominant they were players, Yeah,
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Speaker 9: they're even more.
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Speaker 8: Forceful as personalities.
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Speaker 9: And that was That's a difference between that team and
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Speaker 9: this team as I see it. I'm not saying that
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Speaker 9: you shrinking violence on this team. The Dark Skides got
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Speaker 9: their people, But I'm gonna rely on you guys and
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Speaker 9: tell me if I'm right or wrong.
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Speaker 11: No, that's some group, now, I mean, I mean, this
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Speaker 11: team is is young, This team is set up great
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Speaker 11: cap wise, the right guys are under control all of
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Speaker 11: that sort of thing.
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Speaker 5: And obviously they they peaked, they just kept getting better
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Speaker 5: and better this past year. But I would say the
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Speaker 5: biggest difference is just what you highlight, and that's being
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Speaker 5: an outsider to Seattle, and that is that this group
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Speaker 5: loves each other, loves playing together, has rallied around their
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Speaker 5: head coach think he walks on water basically, And so yeah,
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Speaker 5: I think that's the big difference. And I'm pretty sure
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Speaker 5: that people around here kind of, even if they don't
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Speaker 5: want to say it out loud, kind of have this
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Speaker 5: feeling like all right, here we go again, and I
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Speaker 5: think this time it's going to be different.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, let me just say one other thing, because for
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Speaker 9: the reaction to be what it was.
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Speaker 8: Post game of the Malcolm Butler play.
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Speaker 9: I think the guys liked Pete, trusted Pete the whole deal,
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Speaker 9: but there was already the bubblings about Russ had to
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Speaker 9: have been all right, yeah, for them to be that forceful,
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Speaker 9: because otherwise they just would have been a shock to
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Speaker 9: their system, Like they would have been like the Patriots,
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Speaker 9: like what just happened.
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Speaker 8: Here, right, and instead of it turning to anger, it
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Speaker 8: just would have been like dang, that's bad luck. But
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Speaker 8: they already thought Russ was being coddled.
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Speaker 9: They already thought he was a teacher's pet, whatever terms
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Speaker 9: you want to use, it had to have been in there,
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Speaker 9: and then we learned about it.
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Speaker 8: We didn't really know about it, but we.
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Speaker 9: Learned about it after that play happened. I think Sam
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Speaker 9: Donald's story is so much different that Sam Donald is
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Speaker 9: really like every man, dude, you've been kicked.
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Speaker 8: Around four other teams. I can relate to that.
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Speaker 5: That's my guy.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, he's hung he hung in there, he you know.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, he was the big dude got clobbered off of
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Speaker 9: his pedestal and battled his way back.
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Speaker 8: I can work with that guy.
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Speaker 9: So I think it's just a different mindset going into it.
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Speaker 8: And I hate to feel like I'm dumping on Russ
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Speaker 8: really not.
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Speaker 9: I'm just talking about what I perceived how the players
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Speaker 9: felt about him, and that was the unfortunate part about
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Speaker 9: what could.
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Speaker 8: Have been a long sustained reign because to.
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Speaker 9: Me, I think that team left at least two titles
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Speaker 9: on the table, and that's the unfortunate part.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Charles, I mean, obviously, the way the NFL is
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Speaker 7: set up, it's, you know, when you're good, you have
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Speaker 7: people that want to get paid, and therefore, with the cap,
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Speaker 7: you can't keep everybody. And yet I suppose probably one
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Speaker 7: of the bigger topics that we will discuss in the
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Speaker 7: coming months is what are they gonna do with ken Walker?
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Speaker 7: I mean, on the heels of Zach Charbonny blowing his
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Speaker 7: knee out, then all of a sudden, all of the
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Speaker 7: running game is kind of thrust onto his shoulders and
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Speaker 7: he performs at an MVP level. And I mean Sam
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Speaker 7: Darnold showed in the NFC Championship game that if you
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Speaker 7: need him, he can take the team and put him
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Speaker 7: on his shoulders and in the Super Bowl you didn't
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Speaker 7: need that based on how the defense is playing and
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Speaker 7: how ken Walker was running.
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Speaker 5: But put your GM hat on.
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Speaker 7: Is is ken Walker a big priority or is this
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Speaker 7: one where he's gonna go test the free agent waters
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Speaker 7: and and you hope that you can find something to
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Speaker 7: fill that gap if he doesn't come back.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think is much more of the latter. I
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Speaker 8: think Schneider is going to make sure ken Walker and.
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Speaker 9: As people know that they value him, but he's gonna
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Speaker 9: have a number, and I don't think John Schneider is
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Speaker 9: going to change that number. I think this is what
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Speaker 9: it's going to be. And I think we're all probably
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Speaker 9: at the stage of it is really tired to talk about.
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Speaker 5: Well, you know, running back.
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Speaker 8: You know it's a devalued position.
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Speaker 9: We know how important it is the teams that make
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Speaker 9: big runs. The running back is important. Even on teams
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Speaker 9: that didn't have thousand yard runners. When you got to
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Speaker 9: the playoffs, the running game was vital. It meant something.
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Speaker 9: So we know that the runners are valuable. But we
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Speaker 9: also know that this world, as my grandfather used to say,
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Speaker 9: it's lousy with runners, which means there's a whole lot
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Speaker 9: of them out there, right, So no offense to ken Walker,
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Speaker 9: love what he's done, love all of that. I don't
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Speaker 9: know they're gonna break the bank even for a Super
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Speaker 9: Bowl MVP.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, super bullet.
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Speaker 9: If it should have been a defensive player, yeah all right,
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Speaker 9: it should have.
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Speaker 5: Been someone on defense.
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Speaker 9: No offense at ken Walker, but they just couldn't break
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Speaker 9: out which guy to give it to. So ken Walker
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Speaker 9: was a perfect default choice. And I hate to say
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Speaker 9: the word default.
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Speaker 8: I don't mean it that one.
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Speaker 5: Don't worry. I said it that way yesterday too. Charles
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Speaker 5: Davis is our guest in our last minute. I also
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Speaker 5: tabbed you as a man that sees the future as well.
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Speaker 5: You're big on the NFL draft. So if if ken
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Speaker 5: Walker leaves Seattle, we're sitting down there with the thirty
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Speaker 5: second pick in the draft because we're champions, and there
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Speaker 5: could be you know, other than Jeremiah Love, there could
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Speaker 5: be the running back of your choice on the board.
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Speaker 5: Give me a running back who might be there at thirty,
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Speaker 5: at thirty two that could possibly step right into these shoes.
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Speaker 8: Oh boy, thirty two. Here's the thing. I don't think
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Speaker 8: you're taking him at thirty two. I just don't. I mean,
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Speaker 8: I think you're going deeper into the pot.
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Speaker 9: Okay, all right, you're gonna get sharbone back right altis there.
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Speaker 8: There are gonna be other people that are around. You'll
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Speaker 8: probably signed someone in free agency somewhere and go. I
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Speaker 8: don't know that you.
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Speaker 9: Use one at thirty two, because if it's not Jeremiah Love,
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Speaker 9: I don't know how deep I'm.
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Speaker 5: Going on running back, got it?
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Speaker 1: Okay?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I will tell you something.
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Speaker 9: That kid out of Indiana who played in the title game,
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Speaker 9: Kaylem Black, is an ideal Seattle runner for how you
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Speaker 9: run off it's and how your offensive line goes. And
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Speaker 9: you can get a guy like him deeper in the
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Speaker 9: draft and be extremely successful, I believe, not extremely can
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Speaker 9: be very successful in what you're doing. That's just the
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Speaker 9: type of guy I'm looking at. I'm not sure I
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Speaker 9: would go there at thirty two. It's still early in
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Speaker 9: the process, duh. But you know, for me, if it's
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Speaker 9: not Jeremiah Love, I don't know that I'm breaking the
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Speaker 9: bank to go anywhere for a runner, got it.
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Speaker 5: I knew you were the perfect man for the job.
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Speaker 5: Charles Davis, Thank you, sir. Well, you guys had.
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Speaker 8: A big effect on this whole thing. Don't won't let
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Speaker 8: them tell you any different.
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Speaker 9: When I talked to Josh Schneider, the first thing he's
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Speaker 9: gonna tell me is Chuck and Buff told me.
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Speaker 8: That they were had to defend, and I'm not gonna
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Speaker 8: tell him they were wrong. There you go.
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Speaker 5: I think we're getting rings, Ashley, Bucky, and I'm pretty sure,
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Speaker 5: pretty sure we're getting rings out of all of this. Charles,
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Speaker 5: you are the man. Thank you, sir. We're going to
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Speaker 5: bug you again this offseason. Don't you worry about it.
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Speaker 1: You bug me as.
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Speaker 8: Often as you want. You guys, take care of yourself.
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Speaker 1: Talk to you soon.
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Speaker 5: All right, Charles Davis joining us right here on Chuck
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Speaker 5: and Buck in the Morning, NFL on CBS and of
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Speaker 5: course NFL Network. And we're two weeks away, under two
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Speaker 5: weeks from the NFL Combine. And even though I had
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Speaker 5: didn't ask Charles if he'll be a part of it,
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Speaker 5: I just assume that he's going to be. So we'll
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Speaker 5: have Charles Davis in our lives as football fans here
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Speaker 5: in a couple of weeks. All right, let's find out
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Speaker 5: what's on tap for the rest of today's show. What's
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Speaker 5: on tap?
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Speaker 1: What's on top? All right?
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Speaker 5: Can wis contest? Word is bank? Enter it at ninety
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19:36
Speaker 5: of via down there. The off season is underway. As
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19:43
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19:46
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20:16
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20:23
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20:26
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20:35
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20:42
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20:44
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20:47
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20:50
Speaker 5: down there. Very few of them wait till the last second.
20:54
Speaker 5: And so we're excited about that, and we'll get that
20:57
Speaker 5: started on Monday. Believe it or not, the Olympics continue,
21:00
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21:03
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Speaker 5: We'll find a little time talk about this today as well.
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Speaker 5: You dub an action against Penn State tomorrow thrilling game
21:15
Speaker 5: last night between Kansas and Arizona one by ku even
21:19
Speaker 5: though they were playing without their superstar player. Their fans,
21:23
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Speaker 5: is looking like as we move forward here into the future.
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Speaker 12: He's cutting edge, he's a strategist, he's like a he's
22:03
Speaker 12: a gamer. You know, he's one of those guys and
22:06
Speaker 12: football nerd and he'd say that in Football Geek or
22:09
Speaker 12: something like.
22:10
Speaker 6: That, And yeah, he's just he's a blast to be around.
22:13
Speaker 5: And he thinks I'm older, but I'm not. I mean,
22:16
Speaker 5: this guy's pretty cool. It's pretty cool.
22:18
Speaker 10: Well, he seems to have loosened up a little bit
22:19
Speaker 10: that second year, Like you see a little bit of
22:21
Speaker 10: the personality.
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Speaker 3: Have you seen his fingerprints on the team?
22:25
Speaker 1: Uh?
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Speaker 12: Really just like how we recognize, you know, bringing it
22:28
Speaker 12: like you know what what what what the team is
22:30
Speaker 12: supposed to look like from a cam Robers' standpoint, playing
22:34
Speaker 12: for each other.
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Speaker 8: You know, on a on a personal level.
22:37
Speaker 12: And he really you know, working with Mike Travay, he
22:40
Speaker 12: really bought into that and and and wanted to work
22:42
Speaker 12: with that in the off season and it's important to
22:44
Speaker 12: him and and he knew it at the end of
22:47
Speaker 12: the season last year, He's like, I want to come
22:49
Speaker 12: together and be more of a team.
22:50
Speaker 10: And he did it.
22:54
Speaker 5: That's the Executive of the Year, John Schneider celebrating his
22:57
Speaker 5: Super Bowl championship Sunday with their own Jessmen McIntyre there
23:01
Speaker 5: in the locker room, admitting that he's old as stuff
23:06
Speaker 5: in comparison to Michael McDonald, the head coach. What a marriage,
23:11
Speaker 5: What a marriage made in heaven? Those two have turned
23:13
Speaker 5: out to be. And now that they've been able to
23:15
Speaker 5: say to each other, you know what, I'd rather you
23:19
Speaker 5: not use my toothbrush and you know what, you fart
23:22
Speaker 5: in your sleep? Now that they've had that like honest
23:25
Speaker 5: moment in their first six months together, when you know,
23:28
Speaker 5: when they're that honeymoon period where you can either ignore
23:31
Speaker 5: all of those things or just sort of pointed out,
23:35
Speaker 5: you're not good at getting me linebackers. Here's what we're
23:38
Speaker 5: gonna work on. You know. Once they got through that
23:41
Speaker 5: uncomfortable I don't like your calik, you know kind of moment,
23:45
Speaker 5: than man, it has been the best relationship in the
23:48
Speaker 5: National Football League.
23:50
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I mean he can't. He can't get much
23:52
Speaker 7: better than the way in which it has been. Seamless.
23:54
Speaker 7: I mean they didn't know each other other than through
23:57
Speaker 7: the interview process at first, and it was it was different.
24:02
Speaker 7: I would say, maybe it's not different. Maybe other young
24:05
Speaker 7: coaches have came into the league and not put their
24:07
Speaker 7: foot down but said, hey, some of the pieces you
24:10
Speaker 7: gave me to cook with, I can't do it, but
24:11
Speaker 7: so let's adjust this linebacker situation. Maybe there's younger guys
24:15
Speaker 7: that have done it. It just being as close to
24:17
Speaker 7: it as we are. It seemed like wow, for a young,
24:20
Speaker 7: first time head coach to make that change, and it
24:23
Speaker 7: wasn't obviously one where he was like, I think this
24:25
Speaker 7: will be better.
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Speaker 1: He was certain.
24:27
Speaker 7: Yeah, because it was a quick it was a change
24:29
Speaker 7: that was made really quick, and obviously you look, you
24:32
Speaker 7: know short a little bit over a year later and
24:34
Speaker 7: you're all of a sudden, this champion.
24:36
Speaker 5: You know, your friend Ryan, I don't like him. Yeah.
24:39
Speaker 13: Let me went into the top Chef kitchen and was like, oh,
24:41
Speaker 13: all these ingredients I got this.
24:43
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, So I don't know, maybe just Ryan doesn't
24:46
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25:30
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25:33
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25:41
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25:55
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Speaker 5: watch last night Kansas Arizona, we now no longer have
26:01
Speaker 5: an undefeated Arizona Wildcats team. They were upset at Kansas,
26:06
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26:09
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Speaker 5: Are you safely home and in Wendy's arms?
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Speaker 10: Greg home, Yes, Wendy's off to work.
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Speaker 5: You got plenty of arm time though, didn't you get
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Speaker 5: put in here snuggle time?
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Speaker 10: Yeah, we caught up. It was good for her to
26:52
Speaker 10: come down there and we had a great time. Yeah,
26:55
Speaker 10: very good.
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Speaker 5: Well, we've been talking about a lot of things already
26:59
Speaker 5: this morning, and I want to get your thoughts on it.
27:02
Speaker 5: I mean, this relationship between Schneider and Mike McDonald just
27:07
Speaker 5: seems like a match made in heaven. And I'm wondering
27:09
Speaker 5: if you wait out the four years of his contract
27:12
Speaker 5: and he's got four years left, or do you reward
27:15
Speaker 5: him for a championship and make him feel right now
27:18
Speaker 5: like we don't ever want you to leave Seattle as
27:21
Speaker 5: he do for a pay raise two years into his
27:23
Speaker 5: top six year contract.
27:24
Speaker 10: Grag, Well, he's earned it. I don't know that he'll
27:29
Speaker 10: get one. They do have other priorities other that is
27:32
Speaker 10: a different pot of money and a different process than
27:36
Speaker 10: player contracts, for sure. I don't think so yet. I mean,
27:42
Speaker 10: I know McDonald would say, this is why you hired me.
27:45
Speaker 10: You hired me to beat McVeigh. You hired me to
27:47
Speaker 10: beat Shanahan. You hired me to go to the Super
27:50
Speaker 10: Bowl and win it. And that was not a far
27:53
Speaker 10: fetched idea for him. Remember, Mike McDonald took over a
27:58
Speaker 10: team that was not a rift and a drift and
28:02
Speaker 10: a two win program. He took over a pretty solid
28:06
Speaker 10: foundation of a club that just needed to fix its
28:10
Speaker 10: defense at first, and then he overheld the offense in
28:13
Speaker 10: his way. But he was starting from a higher floor
28:17
Speaker 10: than a lot of first time rookie head coaches, not
28:20
Speaker 10: to mention, because he had the experience in Baltimore and
28:23
Speaker 10: called his own defense. He knew his system would work.
28:27
Speaker 10: He had two years in Baltimore to see how he
28:30
Speaker 10: used Kyle Hamilton for instance, which is a lot more
28:34
Speaker 10: like he uses can'tnorr here, but all the switching and
28:38
Speaker 10: changing it to the snap and the one word commands
28:40
Speaker 10: that players use to activate all of that, and the
28:44
Speaker 10: system he was in place what he used, he had
28:47
Speaker 10: proven in Baltimore to himself he had number one defense
28:50
Speaker 10: in Baltimore that this would work in the league. So
28:54
Speaker 10: all that's to say is that while it is a
28:57
Speaker 10: quick turnaround, he wasn't quite turning it around if they
29:01
Speaker 10: weren't two and fifteen, So he was starting from a
29:06
Speaker 10: higher floorist I guess what I'm saying. I'm not trying
29:10
Speaker 10: to take away from what he has done and the
29:12
Speaker 10: culture he said, and the togetherness he's brought. But he
29:16
Speaker 10: had a pretty good confidence that if he did this
29:18
Speaker 10: system in Seattle, it would work and he could sell
29:22
Speaker 10: that to his players. All he to do was turned
29:24
Speaker 10: on to Baltimore Ravens tape from two years previous to
29:26
Speaker 10: him coming here, and those players would look a girl
29:29
Speaker 10: and that really helped the buy in right away before
29:32
Speaker 10: they played a game.
29:34
Speaker 7: Gee, I mean another coaching situation. Obviously we found out
29:38
Speaker 7: or I think it was a secret that wasn't very
29:40
Speaker 7: well kept about Clint Kubiak taking the Las Vegas job
29:44
Speaker 7: that now is basically official. Do you expect them to
29:48
Speaker 7: stay in house to try to keep some continuity when
29:51
Speaker 7: it comes to replacing the OC or I mean the
29:55
Speaker 7: downside of making it to the Super Bowl is a
29:58
Speaker 7: whole bunch of other teams have already filled all of
30:00
Speaker 7: their spots and whatnot. You're kind of at the at
30:03
Speaker 7: the mercy of who's left over. What do you expect
30:06
Speaker 7: them to do there?
30:08
Speaker 10: I've been told that they are going to promote from within,
30:10
Speaker 10: at least that's their first choice. To promote from within
30:12
Speaker 10: for the play college job. Take pizza, someone's on the
30:16
Speaker 10: staff that has some play calling experience.
30:19
Speaker 1: Andrew Jonoko really messed well.
30:22
Speaker 10: Obviously, the results speak for itself. With quarterback sam Donold
30:26
Speaker 10: Pinoko the quarterbacks coach. He's thirty seven. The key to
30:31
Speaker 10: everything to me is John Ben and Stan and Mike
30:36
Speaker 10: McDonald intends to keep his guys Clint Kubiak being here
30:41
Speaker 10: only for one season in Seattle, it would be he
30:46
Speaker 10: would not engender himself to the Seahawks, to John Schneider,
30:50
Speaker 10: to especially to Mike McDonald. If he he's only here
30:53
Speaker 10: for one year and then he takes half the offensive
30:56
Speaker 10: staff with him to Las Vegas, that would be a ransack.
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Speaker 10: And I don't think that's going to happen. The Seahawks
31:03
Speaker 10: are going to make every effort to keep pretty much
31:06
Speaker 10: everybody else that was coaching on this staff this year.
31:12
Speaker 10: Aden Dirty was very impressive, I'm told in the interviews
31:16
Speaker 10: they had in Atlanta and Chicago Cleveland for the head
31:19
Speaker 10: coaching jobs. He's not going to obviously get when the
31:21
Speaker 10: cycle this time next year, he could be gone too.
31:25
Speaker 10: As the protege for Mike McDonald running and helping run
31:28
Speaker 10: his defense. But Jake Petz is probably the one that
31:33
Speaker 10: comes to mind because he has some play caller experiences.
31:36
Speaker 10: Perhaps the front runner Jinoko would be continuity with Darnold.
31:42
Speaker 10: But no matter how it shakes out, I really think
31:44
Speaker 10: they need to keep offensive line coach John Benton to
31:47
Speaker 10: keep what they've built in the clarity that the guys
31:51
Speaker 10: have talked about in the teaching on the offensive line.
31:54
Speaker 10: That's a big, big stay. And the signs that I'm
31:57
Speaker 10: getting early on is that they're going to make that happen.
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Speaker 5: Bell is with us, our Seahawks insider, joining us here
32:02
Speaker 5: on this Tuesday, fresh off super Bowl coverage, and of
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Speaker 5: as well on x at g Bell Seattle. He joins
32:13
Speaker 5: us here this morning once again to talk to some
32:16
Speaker 5: Seahawks football. What how would you describe the priority level
32:21
Speaker 5: of keeping Ken Walker versus all the suitors to a
32:25
Speaker 5: guy whose name's never going to have been hotter than
32:28
Speaker 5: it is right now.
32:30
Speaker 1: Well higher than it was a week ago.
32:34
Speaker 10: The Zach Charbonnay injury situation changes this a little bit.
32:38
Speaker 10: Had they had Charboney and I'm not throughout the season.
32:44
Speaker 10: I mean, let's put this, there's a reason why they
32:46
Speaker 10: didn't offer Kenneth Walker contract already. Zach Charbonnay was part
32:50
Speaker 10: of that reason. Now, charbon Ay's contract ends after next year.
32:52
Speaker 10: Of course, was drafted a year after Walker in the
32:55
Speaker 10: second round as well, but they headed the back of
32:59
Speaker 10: their minds they could potentially give Charbonay the job if
33:03
Speaker 10: they didn't want to resign at Walker's rate. Walker's rate
33:06
Speaker 10: has skyrocketed in the last three weeks because of how
33:09
Speaker 10: he seized his opportunity. You talk about seizing a chance,
33:14
Speaker 10: not too much more he could have done than be
33:17
Speaker 10: the Super Bowl MVP and have a couple one hundred
33:20
Speaker 10: yard games and three touchdowns in the playoff game equals
33:25
Speaker 10: Sean Alexander's team record from twenty one years ago. It
33:28
Speaker 10: just man perfect timing for him. For him personally, I
33:34
Speaker 10: know he's got a new agent, David Camp can turn
33:37
Speaker 10: the r sportscript down in Florida. Just tired him right
33:40
Speaker 10: before the NFC title game. The cold business of the
33:44
Speaker 10: NFL is that one side of this is the Seahawks
33:48
Speaker 10: had their chance. They could have resigned him all along.
33:51
Speaker 10: And now there's six weeks until free agency begins. Six
33:55
Speaker 10: weeks until he can have open market bidding and see
33:58
Speaker 10: what other teams would be offering him six weeks to
34:00
Speaker 10: actually maximize his contract value by other teams getting in
34:05
Speaker 10: a bidding war with him. It would be from an
34:08
Speaker 10: agent's perspective, it would be a wise business decision to
34:11
Speaker 10: test that market at this point and tell your client, well,
34:15
Speaker 10: they had their chance, they had your four years. From
34:18
Speaker 10: the player's perspective, I asked Walker again yesterday in San
34:21
Speaker 10: Francisco at the MVP press conference before he headed the
34:24
Speaker 10: Mickey Mouse Land, and I asked him if he still
34:27
Speaker 10: wants to stay here, and he said yes, absolutely. That
34:30
Speaker 10: says the first choice would be to re sign with
34:32
Speaker 10: the Seahawks, but he is wondering why this hasn't even
34:36
Speaker 10: been approached yet. When I talked to him in San
34:38
Speaker 10: Jose last week, I asked them, again, have they even
34:42
Speaker 10: come to you talking about a potential deal and what
34:44
Speaker 10: it might look like and bringing up the subject at all?
34:47
Speaker 10: And he said, not that I know of, And those
34:49
Speaker 10: are the same words he gave me in August when
34:51
Speaker 10: I asked that question. So nothing he's done this season,
34:55
Speaker 10: in a thousand yard season, a super Bowl, MVP, nothing
34:58
Speaker 10: that he's done, has moved that needle to him, So
35:04
Speaker 10: I can see why he would test the market, even
35:06
Speaker 10: if he says he wants to come back. The Seahawks
35:09
Speaker 10: probably thought going into the season, because of an injury history,
35:12
Speaker 10: that he could maybe get they could give him a
35:14
Speaker 10: one year deal at a few million above vetrimentium. I
35:19
Speaker 10: don't think there's any way they could do that now
35:21
Speaker 10: because he would get multiple years and more money on
35:25
Speaker 10: the open market. I would almost certainly believe his value
35:28
Speaker 10: going into the playoffs was some people thought around eight
35:33
Speaker 10: million dollars less a year. It may have gone way
35:36
Speaker 10: up from the last three weeks.
35:39
Speaker 7: I mean a lot of times you'll see guys get
35:42
Speaker 7: criticized for tiptoeing up to the line and then hoping
35:45
Speaker 7: for a crease and shooting through there. In the Super
35:48
Speaker 7: Bowl it seemed to work, and the games leading up
35:50
Speaker 7: to it, he was having more success with it. Hugh
35:52
Speaker 7: mentioned yesterday something about how they moved him back maybe
35:57
Speaker 7: a half yard, maybe even all the way up to
35:58
Speaker 7: a yard to where he had more time essentially to
36:01
Speaker 7: kind of read what was going on with his zone blocking,
36:04
Speaker 7: read what was going on in front of him, and
36:05
Speaker 7: then find the hole and hit it. Did you notice
36:08
Speaker 7: the same thing, and why would it? TeV taken four
36:11
Speaker 7: years for them to figure out, Hey, this is what
36:14
Speaker 7: fits his running style better.
36:16
Speaker 10: Now, that was opponent driven. And we talked last week
36:20
Speaker 10: about how the Patriots' defensive tackles went wide, and they
36:25
Speaker 10: really went wide in the Super Bowl. They were trying
36:28
Speaker 10: to overcompensate for Seattle's outside zone, which is usually around
36:31
Speaker 10: me tackles at least that's the point of attack. And
36:34
Speaker 10: so the Patriots attacked that and they gave They wanted
36:40
Speaker 10: Walker to hesitate a little bit to see how that
36:42
Speaker 10: all traffic shook out. If the Patriot's going to flare
36:46
Speaker 10: that way and we're trying to block that way, read
36:48
Speaker 10: the blocks of where the flaring's going. That's the simplistic
36:51
Speaker 10: way to describe that. So he looked more like Leveon
36:55
Speaker 10: Bell in the Super Bowl. Bell was famous for that
36:57
Speaker 10: in Pittsburgh. He would get a handoff and he would
36:59
Speaker 10: just stand there motionless to wait to see what the
37:03
Speaker 10: blocks were doing. And he was a twelve hundred yard
37:06
Speaker 10: back doing that. For a couple of years. He was
37:08
Speaker 10: one of the best, maybe the best back in the
37:10
Speaker 10: league until he fly flamed out, and that's who he
37:13
Speaker 10: looked like on Sunday. But to me, it wasn't four
37:18
Speaker 10: years Why didn't you run this way? It was specific
37:20
Speaker 10: to the opponent. There were a ton of nuances in
37:24
Speaker 10: that game plan. I mentioned yesterday Devin Witherspoon telling me
37:27
Speaker 10: in the locker room after the game about how they
37:29
Speaker 10: had their blocking figured out, especially the backs and how
37:32
Speaker 10: they slid and the sets and tells of the offensive line.
37:37
Speaker 10: Same thing for the run game on offense. They waited
37:41
Speaker 10: a little longer to read the blocks a little differently
37:43
Speaker 10: because of how New England was flaring out. And that's
37:46
Speaker 10: the product of having two weeks, guys, between the title
37:50
Speaker 10: game and the Super Bowl. That you can find nuances
37:52
Speaker 10: in film breakdowns. That's why coaches get paid, that's why
37:56
Speaker 10: they study as much film as they study inside.
38:00
Speaker 5: Greg Bell is with us here, two days removed from
38:03
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl title the Seattle Seahawks on one over
38:06
Speaker 5: the New England Patriots twenty nine to thirteen. And of course,
38:09
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl heroes always rush off to Disneyland or
38:14
Speaker 5: Disney World afterward, and they actually do make appearances there.
38:17
Speaker 5: And maybe I'm reading too much into this, Greg, but man,
38:22
Speaker 5: I really like seeing Sam Darnold and Ken Walker on
38:26
Speaker 5: the children's teacup rides talking about god knows what. I
38:31
Speaker 5: just think there are way too many twenty three to
38:33
Speaker 5: twenty nine year olds who take themselves way too seriously,
38:36
Speaker 5: who have accomplished way I can't imagine Aaron Rodgers ever
38:40
Speaker 5: going after a Super Bowl title to ride in the
38:43
Speaker 5: teacups with a friend. Maybe I'm reading into it too much,
38:46
Speaker 5: but to me, that's sort of symbolic of how well
38:49
Speaker 5: this team gets along. That these two guys don't take
38:51
Speaker 5: themselves so seriously that they can go on a kid's ride,
38:55
Speaker 5: probably on a tour they're only doing because they have to.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, that made me last like one hundred and fifty
39:02
Speaker 10: times yesterday when I saw that they were both of
39:05
Speaker 10: their arms over the edge of the teacup, and that
39:10
Speaker 10: was pretty funny. I don't know how they got onto
39:12
Speaker 10: the ride, because I thought there was a measuring stick
39:14
Speaker 10: that kept you from a minimum height and a maximum
39:17
Speaker 10: height on those rides that Disneyland. Yeah, that was And
39:22
Speaker 10: what's funny is those of us who know Kenneth Walker,
39:25
Speaker 10: he's about the opposite of a guy who's going to
39:27
Speaker 10: do a publicity tour and be shown off and have
39:30
Speaker 10: a parade for He doesn't want any part of that.
39:34
Speaker 10: What I saw last week at the media availabilities before
39:37
Speaker 10: the Super Bowl, He's just like, please, can I just
39:40
Speaker 10: get this over with? I just don't want to talk anymore.
39:43
Speaker 10: He's just a reserve to himself guy. And it's not
39:46
Speaker 10: that he's mean or doesn't want to be approachable or
39:49
Speaker 10: put out. He's a standoff guy. He could just do
39:52
Speaker 10: without the attention. One of them that I haven't gotten
39:55
Speaker 10: the rent right it yet because I've written a story
39:58
Speaker 10: or five hundred in the last two weeks. But one
40:01
Speaker 10: of the coolest stories of all about Walker's night at
40:06
Speaker 10: the Super Bowl was it was the first time his
40:07
Speaker 10: father had ever seen him play in person. His dad
40:10
Speaker 10: is even more reclusive and doesn't like crowds more than
40:13
Speaker 10: his his son is. And can you imagine as a
40:17
Speaker 10: father that the first time you've ever watched your son
40:19
Speaker 10: in person is in the Super Bowl? He ends up
40:21
Speaker 10: being the MVP for what the thrill that was? And
40:27
Speaker 10: yet there's all kinds of stories that emerged like that.
40:30
Speaker 10: But when when Kenneth Walker awoke on Sunday morning in
40:34
Speaker 10: the San Jose Marriot to begin his Super Bowl day.
40:38
Speaker 10: He didn't say he didn't think he'd be necessarily win
40:42
Speaker 10: the MVP, but he knew the game plan. He knew
40:46
Speaker 10: how much Kubiak was going to feed him. He knew
40:49
Speaker 10: that the plan was to run the ball into control
40:52
Speaker 10: field position and to win with their defense. And I
40:56
Speaker 10: talked to him about that and yesterday at San Francisco,
40:59
Speaker 10: and he said that said, man, once I saw the
41:01
Speaker 10: game plan, I knew I was going to have opportunities.
41:04
Speaker 10: And even in the past game, he said, and man
41:07
Speaker 10: one hundred and sixty one guards from scrimmage.
41:10
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, well, still a lot more to discuss.
41:14
Speaker 5: So we're gonna bug you again tomorrow here on the
41:18
Speaker 5: radio program. But great stuff today. Appreciate it very much,
41:21
Speaker 5: mister Bell.
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Speaker 10: All right, thank you. Are you going to be out
41:24
Speaker 10: the parade tomorrow putting on some caps and getting out there.
41:27
Speaker 5: We are going to be doing our show from down there,
41:30
Speaker 5: and so probably I would assume Bucky and I are
41:34
Speaker 5: going to catch it on the front side and maybe
41:37
Speaker 5: not be there when people have been drinking for six
41:40
Speaker 5: straight hours.
41:41
Speaker 1: Maybe not. I don't know.
41:41
Speaker 10: What's that's probably a good idea, all park yourself. Yeah,
41:48
Speaker 10: park yoursel right where it starts that I guess the
41:50
Speaker 10: living field. Yeah, happy, thank you?
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Speaker 5: Oh, it's exciting to talk to Gene again this week,
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Speaker 1: Sick, Good morning, Chuck and Buck.
43:37
Speaker 2: I'm tugging on my Carol Burnette style right now, but
43:42
Speaker 2: I am so glad we have this time together.
43:46
Speaker 5: What a football season, Han, I know it sometimes it
43:49
Speaker 5: was those fans get rough on you officials, but man,
43:52
Speaker 5: what a year. And obviously we were celebrating a Super
43:56
Speaker 5: Bowl here and so we're a little bit biased, but
44:00
Speaker 5: even prior to our success with our football team here
44:03
Speaker 5: in town, it just felt like just a thrilling football
44:07
Speaker 5: season this year, and you were part of that.
44:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, and I've been really blessed to
44:12
Speaker 2: be part of it for well over a couple of decades,
44:15
Speaker 2: almost into three decades now, and it just seems to
44:18
Speaker 2: get better every year, it really does.
44:20
Speaker 1: It was an.
44:21
Speaker 2: Unbelievable atmosphere there. The twelve showed up, just the entire event,
44:27
Speaker 2: and you know what, it's great to put a bow
44:30
Speaker 2: on another great season. And you know it is a
44:33
Speaker 2: little bit you getting no one cally a little it's
44:35
Speaker 2: another year gone by. But up where you guys are
44:38
Speaker 2: right now, the offseason will be full of happiness and
44:43
Speaker 2: probably even greater expectations if you could have that, right,
44:46
Speaker 2: I mean, it continues to move forward to.
44:48
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're winning two super Bowls next year. We got
44:55
Speaker 5: to ratchet up our expectations. We're gonna win on in
44:58
Speaker 5: January and we're gonna win other one in February. That's
45:01
Speaker 5: what we decided.
45:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, why not just be a thing about it, right,
45:06
Speaker 2: I mean, what the heck if it's gonna be a
45:08
Speaker 2: Smorgasborg just fell the plate, we'll be five.
45:12
Speaker 5: Jean's territori is with us. He was on the call,
45:14
Speaker 5: he was on our radio station Sunday. We were covering
45:17
Speaker 5: the national broadcast with Kurt Warner, uh and also Kevin Harlan,
45:22
Speaker 5: the Great Kevin Harlan on the call on Westwood One.
45:25
Speaker 5: So I wrote this down and I thought of you
45:27
Speaker 5: when I wrote it down. Sunday, three minute mark of
45:31
Speaker 5: the first half, the first flag was thrown in the game,
45:36
Speaker 5: and I thought to myself, boy, this is my kind
45:39
Speaker 5: of game.
45:40
Speaker 2: Uh.
45:40
Speaker 5: And yet I'll I will ask you, was it that
45:43
Speaker 5: cleanly played? Or did the officials let it go? What?
45:47
Speaker 5: What would what would be your estimation of that?
45:51
Speaker 1: Now? You know what I mean. There's always a couple
45:53
Speaker 1: of players. I don't think any.
45:54
Speaker 2: Of them were hugely impactful, but many, many times games
46:00
Speaker 2: like this. I think the Super Bowl that I the
46:02
Speaker 2: last one that I was part of, fifty two. I
46:04
Speaker 2: think we had nine penalties total, you know, and the
46:07
Speaker 2: game played really really well. And look credit to the officials.
46:11
Speaker 2: I don't think they dove into overly two technical things
46:15
Speaker 2: for the most part. Right, and then to the teams.
46:20
Speaker 2: It was a defensive chess match on a type of
46:23
Speaker 2: a game to start. And many times those games, because
46:27
Speaker 2: it seems the offense may be a little bit conservative,
46:30
Speaker 2: you may have less opportunity to have files like that
46:33
Speaker 2: right where you're not forcing footballs into crowded areas or
46:37
Speaker 2: pushing things to that nature. But then again, I got
46:40
Speaker 2: a credit Seohn Smith and the guys in the stripes
46:42
Speaker 2: on Sunday. I thought, I thought they did a great job.
46:45
Speaker 2: You know, most people say officials don't win at any time,
46:49
Speaker 2: or do you ever win when games play like this?
46:52
Speaker 2: And the story today is just how dominant Seattle's defense
46:56
Speaker 2: really was and how well this team glued together from
47:00
Speaker 2: so many different levels, and we're not talking about officiating
47:04
Speaker 2: or a call that.
47:04
Speaker 1: Changed the game.
47:06
Speaker 2: Then the officials won too, so you know, really credit
47:09
Speaker 2: to that group.
47:10
Speaker 1: And I thought they did a great job.
47:12
Speaker 7: Yeah, Geane there. I mean it was a good job.
47:14
Speaker 7: I like letting them play like that, and it didn't
47:16
Speaker 7: seem like there was a whole bunch of things that
47:18
Speaker 7: should have been called that weren't. I was interested. I'm
47:22
Speaker 7: right off the bat, I thought of you. And it
47:24
Speaker 7: was the first drive. Cooper Cup catches a ball kind
47:27
Speaker 7: of going towards the sideline. It looks like in real
47:30
Speaker 7: time like because it was kind of the opposite sideline
47:33
Speaker 7: of where you were at TV wise, like you don't
47:36
Speaker 7: see the ball bounce around, so it looks like you
47:37
Speaker 7: caught it, and then they zoom in on it and
47:39
Speaker 7: he catches it kind of and gets his feet down.
47:42
Speaker 5: But it looked like there.
47:43
Speaker 7: Was maybe a bobble, but it wasn't one that Vrabel
47:46
Speaker 7: and his team thought, hey, we should challenge that because
47:49
Speaker 7: they called it a catch. If you were watching when
47:52
Speaker 7: you see that when they kind of slowed it down
47:53
Speaker 7: and showed the replay of it, was there enough of
47:55
Speaker 7: a bobble where it maybe would have been overturned had
47:58
Speaker 7: they challenged it.
48:00
Speaker 2: I think they want something there, Bucky, And you know what,
48:02
Speaker 2: it was a great point, you know when you see
48:04
Speaker 2: those in real time, and my brain has kind of
48:06
Speaker 2: focused that way since I've left the field and become
48:09
Speaker 2: kind of like a replay official during live action. In
48:12
Speaker 2: a lot of ways, you could feel a little double
48:14
Speaker 2: clutch there, right. It just didn't feel like one hundred
48:16
Speaker 2: percent stop playing toe tap boom. And then again, look,
48:22
Speaker 2: this is the chess match and also the little layers
48:25
Speaker 2: that we have to start thinking about moving forward from
48:27
Speaker 2: an officiating standpoint, replay assists standpoint, When does replay assists
48:33
Speaker 2: come in? Was it obvious enough for them to stop
48:36
Speaker 2: the game or take a look real quick or slow
48:38
Speaker 2: the officials down. Seattle realizes, like, look, they went no
48:42
Speaker 2: huddle without substituting very quickly at that point. They pushed
48:46
Speaker 2: the envelope on the defense, which is a great job.
48:49
Speaker 1: In being in the moment and understanding what that was.
48:52
Speaker 2: Hey, if there's a little smoke there, let's just rush
48:54
Speaker 2: up no subs so we don't have to slow the
48:56
Speaker 2: game down the match. You kind of put the onus
48:59
Speaker 2: on the defense and this case that you're going to
49:01
Speaker 2: pull the trigger right now and try to challenge this play.
49:05
Speaker 2: Maybe not a huge game, but there's a play there.
49:08
Speaker 2: Do you want to take a time off this early
49:09
Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl to challenge something like this? So
49:12
Speaker 2: there was a chess match going on, and then there's
49:14
Speaker 2: the pause. Really from the defensive side, hey are they
49:17
Speaker 2: going to look at that upstairs? That felt like you
49:20
Speaker 2: didn't make it clean. There's not a lot of time
49:23
Speaker 2: to do that. So I do think that there was
49:26
Speaker 2: a possibility. I didn't get a bunch of replays on that,
49:29
Speaker 2: quite honestly. The first one that I saw was like
49:32
Speaker 2: you could see Cooper kind of double clutch that thing.
49:34
Speaker 2: For a minute, but it would have taken a little
49:37
Speaker 2: longer dissection. And that's why replay as this didn't come
49:40
Speaker 2: in because like after one quick replay, it wasn't very obvious.
49:45
Speaker 2: That kind of then puts the onus back to already
49:48
Speaker 2: as we evolved the traditional way that we used to
49:50
Speaker 2: review plays right forced the team to challenge.
49:53
Speaker 5: Jeen's ter torres with us the CBS rules And let's
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50:02
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50:08
Speaker 5: Cup was involved in all of the questionable plays I
50:11
Speaker 5: think in this game. I think there were two fingertip
50:15
Speaker 5: catches where the ball it may or may not have
50:18
Speaker 5: touched a blade of grass. But let's just focus on
50:21
Speaker 5: our guy, Cooper Cup here in Seattle. Did he make
50:25
Speaker 5: that catch? Did it actually did the ground help it?
50:28
Speaker 5: What was your read on that?
50:30
Speaker 2: I thought that he made the catch personally, you have
50:34
Speaker 2: to fall into the principles of what replay does right
50:38
Speaker 2: because the ruling was incomplete on it. To me, it
50:42
Speaker 2: didn't feel like the ball bounced from the ground right
50:45
Speaker 2: or did it stop? Kind of in that moment of
50:48
Speaker 2: time where none of that ball was on its way
50:51
Speaker 2: out of his fingertips and the ground stopped it, I
50:55
Speaker 2: thought he showed amazing strength of his fingertips and control
50:58
Speaker 2: of it and really just felt like, yeah, did it just.
51:01
Speaker 1: Start to touch the top of the grass?
51:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, just because maybe you know, the blades are a
51:06
Speaker 2: little higher than they needed to be. But quite honestly,
51:09
Speaker 2: I didn't think that that really felt to me like
51:13
Speaker 2: an incomplete path. But then you do have to go
51:17
Speaker 2: to those absolutes when you review a play right, And
51:21
Speaker 2: that's what makes the ruling on the field so important,
51:24
Speaker 2: because in order to overturn it, you know one conclusively
51:29
Speaker 2: the opposite to do so. And in their determination they
51:33
Speaker 2: saw the blades of grass there the ruling was incomplete
51:37
Speaker 2: and didn't feel like it was enough for them to
51:39
Speaker 2: completely say we could flip it.
51:41
Speaker 1: But personally I thought he made all of a catch up.
51:44
Speaker 5: Yeah, And personally, as an aside, I really like that
51:48
Speaker 5: we have changed the rules in this area. I mean,
51:52
Speaker 5: it used to be if that ball even touched the
51:54
Speaker 5: ground that we were calling it incomplete. For a few years.
51:59
Speaker 5: I like now that there's an element of the ball
52:02
Speaker 5: can touch the ground and it really is control. I mean,
52:05
Speaker 5: do you have a catch or not? And even though
52:08
Speaker 5: the ball touched the ground, you can still catch a football.
52:11
Speaker 5: I like that adjustment that the National Football League has made.
52:14
Speaker 5: It seems a lot clearer for us now than what
52:16
Speaker 5: it did maybe a decade ago.
52:19
Speaker 1: I totally agree to check. You know, we have that again.
52:21
Speaker 1: Back from my Super Bowl, I though I worked.
52:24
Speaker 2: In the back of the end, was with the ball
52:25
Speaker 2: moving a little bit right after it was stuck initially,
52:28
Speaker 2: and now you're putting it into your body. That's the
52:31
Speaker 2: challenging aspect of the replay too. Let's not slow these
52:35
Speaker 2: down so much that we're distorting. Really in real time
52:38
Speaker 2: is kind of reality. And then we slow it frame
52:41
Speaker 2: by frame and go, you know, he doesn't have possession.
52:43
Speaker 2: He does, He's just moving it and the ball's moving
52:46
Speaker 2: within his control. And I think they are doing a
52:49
Speaker 2: better job at it, and I think they'll continue to
52:50
Speaker 2: get better with everything right, the technology continues and in
52:54
Speaker 2: years of experience and plays start to show themselves, hopefully
52:58
Speaker 2: it becomes even more consistent.
53:01
Speaker 7: Gene, how do you how is the officiating supposed to
53:05
Speaker 7: handle the scuffles and stuff, because I mean a lot
53:08
Speaker 7: of times what happens is depending on which sideline you
53:11
Speaker 7: get pushed out of bounds into uh is, Well, then
53:15
Speaker 7: that team's gonna jaw right, there's gonna be some guys
53:17
Speaker 7: that are going to be happen And so for that,
53:20
Speaker 7: for the opponent that's in the outsider's side of things,
53:23
Speaker 7: you better just get out of there. You better get
53:25
Speaker 7: out of there. And yet this was one that Digs
53:28
Speaker 7: and Joe got into. I mean, there's ended up being
53:30
Speaker 7: punches thrown, but nothing happened. I don't know if I
53:32
Speaker 7: necessarily want anything to happen, because I think what probably
53:35
Speaker 7: happens is offsetting penalties and so it's a nothing anyways.
53:39
Speaker 7: But how do you how are you supposed to officiate that?
53:42
Speaker 7: Because usually something like that happens and all of a sudden,
53:46
Speaker 7: somebody's mad because the flag's thrown and they get penalized.
53:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, great point.
53:51
Speaker 2: Look, you're always very aware when the wrong colored jersey
53:54
Speaker 2: goes into a bed, right, so you do you bust
53:57
Speaker 2: you bust bucket quickly to get in there and hope
54:00
Speaker 2: that player, the one with a different color jersey than
54:02
Speaker 2: the other forty around him isn't too amped up that
54:06
Speaker 2: he instigates something verbally within those masses because it's a
54:11
Speaker 2: dangerous time and a very quick place that you got
54:13
Speaker 2: to get to because of the intensity. Quite frankly, I
54:16
Speaker 2: thought prior to the digs in Job's aspect, there was
54:20
Speaker 2: a hit that occurred off the field right after the
54:22
Speaker 2: play ended that I thought could have resulted in a
54:26
Speaker 2: foul and would have supported a foul on that hit
54:28
Speaker 2: once the player was out of bounds. That's really what
54:31
Speaker 2: they try to do. We always, philosophically, as hard as
54:35
Speaker 2: it is, at times, you want to get the instigator because,
54:38
Speaker 2: as you said, Bookie, once they started to get you know,
54:41
Speaker 2: the one's grabbing a face mask, the other's mush in
54:43
Speaker 2: his head and open hands thrown. It looks like a punch.
54:46
Speaker 2: Maybe it is a punch, I know, but he's pulling
54:49
Speaker 2: his face mask and as a human being in between that,
54:52
Speaker 2: you know, without any equipment and no helmet, you're just
54:55
Speaker 2: trying to separate people so that this play now doesn't
55:00
Speaker 2: turn into a wildfire, because we don't want to have
55:04
Speaker 2: a situation where we have kind of a brawl feeling
55:07
Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl or any game, but specifically in
55:09
Speaker 2: that So you then try to just separate. I would
55:13
Speaker 2: have liked to see them maybe get that first piece
55:15
Speaker 2: of that play, but once it starts the other way,
55:18
Speaker 2: I think the best thing to do is to just
55:21
Speaker 2: try to break this up and if nobody then after
55:24
Speaker 2: the pause or after the initial kind of you both
55:27
Speaker 2: are guilty, which, as you said, would have rightly been
55:30
Speaker 2: flagged by both teams, just an offset, which really which
55:34
Speaker 2: is where you end up without calling it now. I
55:37
Speaker 2: will say in those scenarios at times, though having two flags,
55:41
Speaker 2: even though the yordas will be put onto that foul,
55:46
Speaker 2: it does count toward you have one of these files
55:50
Speaker 2: in this game. So throwing flags now actually is not
55:54
Speaker 2: a terrible thing, even if they are set, because it
55:56
Speaker 2: becomes a deterrent to say, you've just been hit with
56:00
Speaker 2: one of these unsportsmen like unnecessary penalties. If you have
56:04
Speaker 2: another one, you're out of here, right So you can
56:06
Speaker 2: do a little bit of control with it, although there
56:08
Speaker 2: may no be orderage attached.
56:10
Speaker 1: But I'm with you.
56:11
Speaker 2: Once they got together, I thought they did a really
56:13
Speaker 2: good job of getting to you guys. Apart a couple kind.
56:17
Speaker 1: Of arms that went out there in a you know,
56:19
Speaker 1: pretty aggressive fashion.
56:21
Speaker 2: Want the best thing to visually see. But I don't
56:24
Speaker 2: think that it would have been something they could have
56:25
Speaker 2: penalized one team or the other in the scuffle portion
56:28
Speaker 2: for sure.
56:28
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was the closest we came to, like a controverse.
56:32
Speaker 5: I mean, Mike Rabel was furious in that moment, or
56:36
Speaker 5: as I like to call it, desperate, and that's why
56:44
Speaker 5: I need fifteen yards. I can't get it on my own.
56:47
Speaker 2: We need fifteen We need a first down somehow, right now, Yeah.
56:52
Speaker 5: We like to call this an explosive play. Ref please
56:56
Speaker 5: give us an.
56:56
Speaker 2: Explosion exactly exact. Some people say, you know, it was
57:04
Speaker 2: boring football and the teams weren't playing well. I think
57:07
Speaker 2: it was quite the opposite, right right, when you have
57:10
Speaker 2: dominant defenses and then when you see Walker bouncing out
57:14
Speaker 2: like that, if I felt like we went back twenty
57:17
Speaker 2: five years where you know, the twenty five yard run
57:20
Speaker 2: is a gigantic play because nobody's going to get twenty
57:23
Speaker 2: yards on any play today because the defenses are playing
57:26
Speaker 2: so well, and the chess match of field position, both
57:30
Speaker 2: teams understanding their defenses were dominating to a point in
57:34
Speaker 2: the first half created nothing more than a field position
57:37
Speaker 2: chess match, conservative probably play calling at times because they
57:43
Speaker 2: had so much confidence in what their defense is doing.
57:47
Speaker 2: So you know, I'm kind of the one muffed baseball
57:49
Speaker 2: guy that you watch, who are right? I love the
57:50
Speaker 2: home runs too, but sometimes it's nice to see teams
57:54
Speaker 2: impose their will from the other side of the football.
57:57
Speaker 1: And I can tell you from being there.
57:59
Speaker 2: The one thing, unless you're really focusing on it from
58:01
Speaker 2: your home on TV, which many times I don't think
58:04
Speaker 2: we do it. It's kind of like watching hockey from
58:06
Speaker 2: TV or then going to the arena. When you're in
58:09
Speaker 2: a stadium like that, or in a game like that,
58:12
Speaker 2: you can feel the offensive or defensive line winning the
58:16
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage in the first second and a half
58:18
Speaker 2: of every play right like it's a snap and Seattle
58:22
Speaker 2: is playing defense on New England's side of the football quickly.
58:29
Speaker 2: That changes the dynamic of the game. You can feel
58:32
Speaker 2: that if you're focusing on that. And so many times
58:35
Speaker 2: in games especially like that, where defenses are playing at
58:38
Speaker 2: their highest, who's winning that line of scrimmage? That ends
58:42
Speaker 2: up and is the difference. And even with New England
58:45
Speaker 2: being pretty aggressive defensively. I think Walker hesitating even for
58:50
Speaker 2: that split second in that moment and then reading something
58:54
Speaker 2: and being able then to burst kind of like a
58:57
Speaker 2: Le'Veon bell feeling.
58:59
Speaker 1: At least that's what it felt like to me.
59:01
Speaker 2: Those became gigantic plays in the game, and you could
59:05
Speaker 2: feel that, and almost to me felt like he might
59:08
Speaker 2: have been a little deeper in the offensive backfield.
59:11
Speaker 1: Then maybe he would normally be. And it may have
59:14
Speaker 1: been for that reason too. I don't know if these
59:16
Speaker 1: adjustments like that that the coaches make in real.
59:18
Speaker 2: Time, but you could really feel the line of scrimmage
59:21
Speaker 2: being won by Seattle's defense throughout the game.
59:25
Speaker 5: Honestly, Yeah, as a sports fan, I will never tire
59:28
Speaker 5: of seeing greatness, and I don't care if it comes
59:31
Speaker 5: on the defensive side of the ball, or on a
59:33
Speaker 5: pitcher's mound or in the net end goal. I'm all
59:38
Speaker 5: there for greatness and we saw that on Sunday. I
59:41
Speaker 5: do want to ask you, speaking of the great defense
59:44
Speaker 5: that was performed, they took the Seahawks defense out of
59:47
Speaker 5: the record books. They had set the record with the
59:49
Speaker 5: seventh sack in the game. It was that forced fumble
59:52
Speaker 5: with what four and a half minutes left to go
59:55
Speaker 5: in the game, and to me it looked like a
59:59
Speaker 5: sack into a lot of people, a sack and a
1:00:01
Speaker 5: fumble that just ended up in Nuosu's arms, but because
1:00:04
Speaker 5: it never hit the ground, they called it an interception
1:00:07
Speaker 5: return for a touchdown. Now, it doesn't change the scoreboard, Gene,
1:00:12
Speaker 5: but just for just for statistical purposes historic purposes. Was
1:00:17
Speaker 5: that a fumble forced fumble and recovery and a sack
1:00:21
Speaker 5: or was that a interception return for a touchdown in
1:00:25
Speaker 5: your expert opinion.
1:00:27
Speaker 2: Don't make me to be Debbie Downer right now, Chuck,
1:00:30
Speaker 2: you know I mean, I would.
1:00:31
Speaker 1: Have loved to seeing them break the record.
1:00:34
Speaker 2: I looked at I did look at it because the
1:00:36
Speaker 2: game was being officiated so well, I had some time
1:00:38
Speaker 2: to look at just something based on how they were
1:00:40
Speaker 2: going to statistically rule on it. Right, and again, as
1:00:45
Speaker 2: we probably know from the whole year of watching their
1:00:47
Speaker 2: listening to analysts like me like it only requires a
1:00:50
Speaker 2: frame of that hand going forward with some possession to
1:00:53
Speaker 2: constitute a forward pass. I still felt like that was
1:00:57
Speaker 2: the case, and that the arm did just go forward
1:01:01
Speaker 2: and wasn't knock loose prior to his arm Going forward,
1:01:06
Speaker 2: I think initially they did rule it fumble if I'm
1:01:09
Speaker 2: not mistaken right, and maybe we came back or I
1:01:11
Speaker 2: know that's what my statistician was telling me in the
1:01:13
Speaker 2: press box, is initially it was kind of fumble fumble,
1:01:16
Speaker 2: and then maybe after the next series or some time
1:01:20
Speaker 2: during that series, they said, oh, they've now officially made
1:01:22
Speaker 2: it an interception. And I have to agree that I
1:01:26
Speaker 2: thought it was an interception.
1:01:27
Speaker 1: Now if that hurts me, you know, maybe with the audience.
1:01:30
Speaker 5: No, no, not at all, not at all, not at all.
1:01:34
Speaker 5: We just want the truth. We wanted the truth. Hey,
1:01:39
Speaker 5: by the way, when you go to a Super Bowl,
1:01:41
Speaker 5: I mean all players are like, man, I wish I
1:01:43
Speaker 5: could put the pads on one more time. Do you
1:01:46
Speaker 5: get that juice when you're calling a Super Bowl game? Like, Man,
1:01:49
Speaker 5: I think I needed to get back down on the
1:01:51
Speaker 5: field and you know, blow a whistler too.
1:01:55
Speaker 2: You'd love to just go down and work the game. Yeah,
1:01:57
Speaker 2: you want to just k the game, But I want
1:01:59
Speaker 2: to do the of it for the whole season and
1:02:02
Speaker 2: all the travel and all the work that I know
1:02:04
Speaker 2: those men.
1:02:04
Speaker 1: And women do during the week. No, I wouldn't want
1:02:07
Speaker 1: to do that anymore.
1:02:07
Speaker 2: But yeah, they could just caliport me down there to
1:02:10
Speaker 2: make a few calls and then I could leave again.
1:02:12
Speaker 2: That would be wonderful, Chuck, Yeah, but I am blessed.
1:02:15
Speaker 2: Look that was my eleventh Super Bowl, either as a
1:02:19
Speaker 2: spectator watching my older brother, participant myself, and now in
1:02:24
Speaker 2: the business with Westwood One, as you said, and then
1:02:26
Speaker 2: with CBS.
1:02:27
Speaker 1: I've gotten seven or eight in a row lately.
1:02:30
Speaker 2: But it is an amazing experience, and you always hope
1:02:35
Speaker 2: that if your team makes it and you're a fan
1:02:37
Speaker 2: of the game, you can go and enjoy that experience
1:02:40
Speaker 2: with your team. But even if you're a lover of
1:02:42
Speaker 2: the game, and even if you don't want to pay
1:02:45
Speaker 2: the ten thousand dollars to go see the game in
1:02:48
Speaker 2: the stadium, I mean what was going on outside of
1:02:50
Speaker 2: the stadium, which I never would feel as an official.
1:02:53
Speaker 2: You know, I never walked through a stadium in the NFL,
1:02:55
Speaker 2: like through the regular gate.
1:02:57
Speaker 1: I just never did it.
1:02:58
Speaker 2: So when you have a lot of time on the
1:03:00
Speaker 2: front end of the game, you're kind of killing an
1:03:01
Speaker 2: hour or two before you're getting.
1:03:03
Speaker 1: Into your pregame stuff.
1:03:05
Speaker 2: I had a chance and do get a chance to
1:03:07
Speaker 2: kind of walk around outside and take it in and
1:03:11
Speaker 2: it's an unbelievable week. It's an unbelievable pregame experience. And
1:03:16
Speaker 2: then there's nothing like the ball getting kicked on Super
1:03:20
Speaker 2: Bowl Sunday, that opening kick when the flashballs start for
1:03:24
Speaker 2: that moment in time. So that always does take me back,
1:03:28
Speaker 2: quite frankly, to being fortunate enough to be down there
1:03:33
Speaker 2: at that moment. And you kind of want to convey
1:03:35
Speaker 2: that to your fellow fraternity members whenever they get that chance,
1:03:39
Speaker 2: because it's so special. It's part of history, Yeah, and
1:03:42
Speaker 2: you become humbly part of that, and it's always a
1:03:45
Speaker 2: beautiful feeling.
1:03:46
Speaker 5: Well, there was a time where the three of us
1:03:49
Speaker 5: sat at a table and we openly discussed we having
1:03:53
Speaker 5: like a gene Stereotaur type on the air weekly. Would
1:03:57
Speaker 5: that be effective when people like that if we just
1:03:59
Speaker 5: talked about the calls from over the weekend, because we
1:04:03
Speaker 5: end up talking about calls almost every Monday or Tuesday anyway,
1:04:08
Speaker 5: And so we went into it not really knowing what expect.
1:04:11
Speaker 5: But I will say this, I mean, we just had
1:04:13
Speaker 5: a blast with you the last few years. We hope
1:04:16
Speaker 5: that you're going to be back again next season, because
1:04:19
Speaker 5: I think I speak on behalf of everyone here and
1:04:22
Speaker 5: a lot of our listeners. I look forward to this
1:04:24
Speaker 5: segment every single week. So Gene, thanks again for everything
1:04:27
Speaker 5: this year, and hopefully we'll do it again next season.
1:04:31
Speaker 1: You guys are the best.
1:04:32
Speaker 2: I love this as much as anything that I do,
1:04:35
Speaker 2: kind of hanging and sitting and doing some radio and
1:04:38
Speaker 2: being able to be part of your show, part of
1:04:41
Speaker 2: that area, even though from a little bit of a distance,
1:04:44
Speaker 2: you do feel it and I really enjoy it, and
1:04:48
Speaker 2: I'll keep my fingers crossed that we continue to make
1:04:51
Speaker 2: this an annual saying I'll miss you guys. We're going
1:04:55
Speaker 2: to start the hoops here in a couple of weeks now.
1:04:57
Speaker 2: The shape of the ball is going to change, but
1:05:00
Speaker 2: we'll jump back into it. And if there's anything you
1:05:02
Speaker 2: want to talk about during March Madness, maybe we can
1:05:05
Speaker 2: just throw one of those extra ones in there, just
1:05:08
Speaker 2: just to say hello. Okay, you know, like it six
1:05:11
Speaker 2: or seven months is a little bit too long.
1:05:13
Speaker 1: I agree, you know.
1:05:14
Speaker 2: I mean, we're family, but we're really not like fourth cousins,
1:05:18
Speaker 2: those ones you only see twice a year that you
1:05:21
Speaker 2: kiss on the cheek and you don't remember his or
1:05:23
Speaker 2: her name, and when you get back in the car
1:05:26
Speaker 2: after you leave, they talk about them and you don't
1:05:28
Speaker 2: know if they're really related to you. I feel like
1:05:31
Speaker 2: we've got a little closer, right, Maybe we're into the
1:05:33
Speaker 2: second cousin thing, like it was a marriage cousin. You know,
1:05:38
Speaker 2: you're yeah, that's your uncle by marriage, by marriage or
1:05:40
Speaker 2: by marriage. But I'm getting there and I want to
1:05:43
Speaker 2: get to the table.
1:05:44
Speaker 1: So thank you, fellas. I am way awesome.
1:05:46
Speaker 5: I am way closer to you than any of my
1:05:48
Speaker 5: second cousins, much less than you. Get some red and
1:05:59
Speaker 5: we'll talk to you real soon.
1:06:00
Speaker 2: All right, you got it, a congratulations. Enjoy the parade tomorrow.
1:06:05
Speaker 2: Every other city in the country can't have it, but
1:06:08
Speaker 2: they're gonna have it in Seattle and well deserve it,
1:06:11
Speaker 2: so enjoy.
1:06:12
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1:06:58
Speaker 5: three KJRFM here on this Tuesday morning. Great to have
1:07:02
Speaker 5: you with us. Just a couple of days removed really
1:07:04
Speaker 5: from a Super Bowl championship, everybody I know feeling very
1:07:09
Speaker 5: super bowly. I would imagine if you're a teacher, your
1:07:12
Speaker 5: kids in class seem a little more like a champion
1:07:15
Speaker 5: today and yesterday probably as well. I would imagine everywhere
1:07:21
Speaker 5: you go, maybe your taco time tasted a little champion
1:07:24
Speaker 5: year than it does.
1:07:27
Speaker 3: It couldn't get better exactly, Like.
1:07:29
Speaker 5: Wait a minute, are those chunks of championship in my
1:07:33
Speaker 5: chicken burrito?
1:07:34
Speaker 7: Do I have any championship stuck in my teeth?
1:07:36
Speaker 10: Yeah?
1:07:36
Speaker 3: Exactly, a lot stuck in my teeth.
1:07:39
Speaker 5: It's just that kind of mood here, and it'll it'll
1:07:42
Speaker 5: stay with us to our parade coverage tomorrow. We're gonna
1:07:46
Speaker 5: get things started from Jimmy's on first Tomorrow at six
1:07:49
Speaker 5: a m. Bucky and myself, uh, and then of course
1:07:53
Speaker 5: we will. We've got, I mean, maybe the best parade
1:07:56
Speaker 5: reporter in the business on our staff, Dave Softy Maller.
1:08:01
Speaker 5: Anybody better at it. Never heard anybody better.
1:08:04
Speaker 7: I would have hard time thinking you can. Yes, you
1:08:07
Speaker 7: can't match him. Many people can't rise to that level.
1:08:10
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I don't know. I don't even know how
1:08:11
Speaker 5: we're using him tomorrow. But if we're not using him
1:08:14
Speaker 5: to his utmost capabilities, we're making mistake.
1:08:17
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:08:17
Speaker 13: I think he's going to be along the parade route,
1:08:20
Speaker 13: which is just the perfect place to have him. That's him, Yeah,
1:08:22
Speaker 13: that's him, just surrounded by the people.
1:08:24
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's the best in the business. And then that's
1:08:27
Speaker 5: his specialty.
1:08:28
Speaker 1: Yep.
1:08:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, put just PLoP him down in the middle of
1:08:31
Speaker 3: a million people.
1:08:32
Speaker 5: That's right, and let him go nuts, yep, and try
1:08:35
Speaker 5: not to cuss on the air. That's our guy. Uh So,
1:08:38
Speaker 5: we got prey coverage for you tomorrow, and so just
1:08:41
Speaker 5: keep feeling like a champion for as long as it lasts.
1:08:44
Speaker 5: Certainly you don't have to quit for another I don't know,
1:08:47
Speaker 5: six or seven months. No, Yeah, you don't.
1:08:50
Speaker 7: Yeah, you don't really for almost a year carry it.
1:08:53
Speaker 5: Yeah, Mike McDonald and John Schneider getting their flowers, and
1:08:58
Speaker 5: for good reason. John Schneider, I think on every talk
1:09:00
Speaker 5: show in America here the last twenty four hours or
1:09:03
Speaker 5: e scuse me, Mike McDonald's been on every talk show
1:09:05
Speaker 5: in America here in the last twenty four hours, and
1:09:08
Speaker 5: so they're certainly getting They're just dessert. And man, I
1:09:12
Speaker 5: realized that John and Pete were a pretty good pair,
1:09:16
Speaker 5: very good pair, great pair at one point, but man,
1:09:20
Speaker 5: this one feels even more special. I mean, we talked
1:09:24
Speaker 5: earlier about how this team might feel a little bit
1:09:27
Speaker 5: different than twenty thirteen, and one of the things I
1:09:29
Speaker 5: didn't get to is you have a thirty eight year
1:09:32
Speaker 5: old head coach who seemingly is just getting started, and
1:09:36
Speaker 5: who seems to love every aspect of being a teacher
1:09:40
Speaker 5: and a coach. He might just be getting good at
1:09:44
Speaker 5: this in his own in his own thoughts. I mean,
1:09:47
Speaker 5: Sean McVay was like burned out by thirty it felt
1:09:51
Speaker 5: like where Mike McDonald just seems to be getting started.
1:09:53
Speaker 5: That's another aspect of it. These two together, they seem
1:09:57
Speaker 5: to be in lockstep. It took them about six months
1:10:00
Speaker 5: to get there, and then for the last year and
1:10:02
Speaker 5: a half they've just both been on fire and to
1:10:05
Speaker 5: be able to build off an already championship team with
1:10:09
Speaker 5: the third youngest team in the national Football League, the
1:10:11
Speaker 5: team with the fourth most cap space in the National
1:10:14
Speaker 5: Football League, and these two at the top of their game,
1:10:17
Speaker 5: you know, and being together. There's not a better marriage
1:10:21
Speaker 5: in the National Football League than these two guys right now.
1:10:24
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I mean, I don't know where you would
1:10:26
Speaker 7: want anything different. I mean, John Schneider, I think it's
1:10:30
Speaker 7: the first time ever that somebody has won a second
1:10:34
Speaker 7: Super Bowl with no one remaining from the first one.
1:10:37
Speaker 7: Not a coach, not a not a you know, I
1:10:39
Speaker 7: mean they're staff members, but not a coach or a player.
1:10:43
Speaker 7: So I mean a completely different team and you get
1:10:45
Speaker 7: you reach the mountaintop. He right now, as of the
1:10:49
Speaker 7: last few years has been I mean knocking it out
1:10:52
Speaker 7: of the park. Now, I mean i'd probably go back
1:10:53
Speaker 7: to the three years in a row, Charles Cross even
1:10:56
Speaker 7: with with you know, the year before that where you
1:10:59
Speaker 7: had a ninth Now, the few years right before that
1:11:02
Speaker 7: weren't all that great, but you were picking twenty fifth,
1:11:04
Speaker 7: twenty seven, they didn't have as many draft picks. But
1:11:07
Speaker 7: for the last three or four years, the top picks
1:11:09
Speaker 7: they've had have been great. And then even some of
1:11:12
Speaker 7: the you know, your third round picks, and you know
1:11:14
Speaker 7: that you end up kind of hitting on. I mean,
1:11:16
Speaker 7: AJ Barner's become was a bit of a weapon this
1:11:19
Speaker 7: year and he's a fourth round pick a couple of
1:11:21
Speaker 7: years ago. Riley Mills, I think is going to end
1:11:24
Speaker 7: up being a piece in the in that defensive line.
1:11:27
Speaker 7: Not because he just had one sack, but he was
1:11:29
Speaker 7: a guy that was kind of devastating with a Notre
1:11:32
Speaker 7: Dame before he got hurt, and so he's just now
1:11:34
Speaker 7: getting kind of his feet wet, so to speak. Tory
1:11:37
Speaker 7: Horton was great before he got hurt. Yeah, what he does,
1:11:40
Speaker 7: what he has done in the draft is not just
1:11:42
Speaker 7: what you have to do to be competitive is probably
1:11:45
Speaker 7: nail those your first round pick, right you bet you
1:11:47
Speaker 7: need to get something out of those guys. I mean
1:11:49
Speaker 7: he's getting Like the last few years, it's three or
1:11:52
Speaker 7: four guys a draft that are contributors. And right now,
1:11:55
Speaker 7: you give Mike McDonald that he's going to go out
1:11:59
Speaker 7: there and give you somebody that a team that's is
1:12:02
Speaker 7: going to be a tough, tough out.
1:12:03
Speaker 5: Well, that's what he was doing for Pete. I mean,
1:12:06
Speaker 5: he was nailing drafts for three four years. That's what
1:12:09
Speaker 5: built the first championship team. And this is the truth
1:12:13
Speaker 5: about it. And John doesn't want to hear this if
1:12:16
Speaker 5: he's probably not listening anyway, But there was like seven
1:12:19
Speaker 5: straight years of me and even less than the drafts.
1:12:24
Speaker 5: And you want to know how you go to mediocrity
1:12:27
Speaker 5: for a little while, haven't met drafts, And that's what
1:12:30
Speaker 5: this organization did. And you do wonder if maybe Pete
1:12:34
Speaker 5: and John weren't seeing his eye to eye on what
1:12:37
Speaker 5: the team needs and one was overruling. But right now, Ashley,
1:12:43
Speaker 5: I mean, this is three fantastic drafts in a row,
1:12:48
Speaker 5: and one of them was with Pete. By the way,
1:12:51
Speaker 5: of course, you had the fifth pick, doesn't hurt ye
1:12:53
Speaker 5: had two first round picks. You had the Russell Wilson
1:12:56
Speaker 5: trade that you benefited from. But even that was a
1:12:59
Speaker 5: struggle for them to get on the same page with
1:13:01
Speaker 5: these two guys. After three consecutive great drafts, a far
1:13:05
Speaker 5: more successful free agency period this past year, a Super
1:13:10
Speaker 5: Bowl championship run, a Rashid Shahed addition at the trading deadline,
1:13:15
Speaker 5: it just feels like they now get each other. They
1:13:18
Speaker 5: both get what Mike needs to make it successful, and
1:13:22
Speaker 5: Mike is not being shy about what he's telling Johnny
1:13:26
Speaker 5: needs to be successful and they are just smoking hot
1:13:30
Speaker 5: right now.
1:13:30
Speaker 13: Well, and I think I think in some ways Pete
1:13:33
Speaker 13: made it more of a personal thing versus just you know,
1:13:36
Speaker 13: he didn't ever want to give up on a guy, right,
1:13:38
Speaker 13: So I think they held on to some people too long.
1:13:40
Speaker 13: And I think, you know that Russell Wilson thing, he
1:13:43
Speaker 13: didn't want to get rid of him, and I think
1:13:45
Speaker 13: everybody else knew it was time for him to go.
1:13:47
Speaker 13: I do think there was a level of competition between
1:13:50
Speaker 13: Pete and John, not in a not necessarily in a
1:13:54
Speaker 13: negative way, but I think I could see how it
1:13:56
Speaker 13: could get in the way sometimes with one of them
1:13:58
Speaker 13: thinking no, this is better, No, this is better.
1:14:01
Speaker 3: And because there was that power struggle a bit.
1:14:04
Speaker 13: Because Pete wasn't just the coach, you know, so there
1:14:07
Speaker 13: was there was more of a power dynamic involved there.
1:14:10
Speaker 13: Whereas Mike McDonald comes in, he's not afraid to say
1:14:13
Speaker 13: what he wants and John Schneider knows his power and
1:14:15
Speaker 13: doesn't feel threatened by McDonald.
1:14:18
Speaker 5: Yeah, good point. And look, I mean there's a real
1:14:21
Speaker 5: interesting case study here. I think Pete's problem as a
1:14:26
Speaker 5: talent evaluator was just give me the talented guy. I
1:14:30
Speaker 5: can coach anybody, and then we end up with Malik
1:14:33
Speaker 5: McDowell's of the world. And I could put together a list,
1:14:36
Speaker 5: but I'll save those people. And you were just going
1:14:39
Speaker 5: with talent. You were going with Jermaineafetti's because he filled
1:14:42
Speaker 5: a doorway. No, instead of why not? I mean they
1:14:45
Speaker 5: got to be able to play football a little bit,
1:14:47
Speaker 5: and they got to be able to get along with
1:14:48
Speaker 5: others a little bit, and then we just beat the Patriots.
1:14:51
Speaker 5: And Mike Rabel he comes from the Bill Belichick coaching
1:14:55
Speaker 5: and Bill Belichick was not a great drafter. People think
1:14:57
Speaker 5: that he is. He was not a great drafter. He
1:14:59
Speaker 5: was really good with veterans who were cast offs from
1:15:02
Speaker 5: other places, but he knew how to use them. He
1:15:05
Speaker 5: was much better as a free agent general manager than
1:15:08
Speaker 5: he was a drafter of Patriots. And yet Belichick what
1:15:13
Speaker 5: he looked for more than anything, I want grit, I
1:15:15
Speaker 5: want toughness. I want people that love football, and that's
1:15:18
Speaker 5: how he finds Mike Rabel. And Mike Rabel has implemented
1:15:21
Speaker 5: that immediately back into Patriot culture and he created a
1:15:25
Speaker 5: successful thing. But where did that leave him in the
1:15:28
Speaker 5: Super Bowl? He wasn't as athletic his team, and they
1:15:33
Speaker 5: kind of got boat raced on Sunday. And I think
1:15:37
Speaker 5: Mike McDonald is I want the athlete. I want the
1:15:42
Speaker 5: nick Emon Worrie, and it's being married with John Schneider's
1:15:46
Speaker 5: experience with Pete and Mike McDonald's experience with the Harballs.
1:15:51
Speaker 5: But I also want them to love football. And we've
1:15:55
Speaker 5: pointed it out three drafts in a row, listening to
1:15:58
Speaker 5: the player interviews. Once they've been draft you can go
1:16:00
Speaker 5: back and listen to our draft coverage. You can go
1:16:03
Speaker 5: back to listen to my Saturdays. You're like, man, that
1:16:05
Speaker 5: was an impressive interview. Not a lot of twenty two
1:16:08
Speaker 5: year olds give impressive interviews, And yet they have been
1:16:12
Speaker 5: on such a heater because they're not sacrificing the athleticism
1:16:17
Speaker 5: that it takes to kind of play in the National
1:16:19
Speaker 5: Football League. They're not sacrificing that guy with the excellent
1:16:24
Speaker 5: forty times, but they're also not sacrificing character. And right
1:16:30
Speaker 5: now I think it's the perfect blend and the two
1:16:33
Speaker 5: of them are on the same page. And I would
1:16:35
Speaker 5: just offer one little thing of advice, not that you
1:16:39
Speaker 5: need it, you two, but don't hang out personally you know,
1:16:43
Speaker 5: I don't even want to run the risk that like
1:16:45
Speaker 5: John's sister hits on Mike inappropriately at a cocktail party
1:16:49
Speaker 5: and ruins the ruins the professional relationship. Just stay away
1:16:54
Speaker 5: from each other and only get together to talk football.
1:16:57
Speaker 5: I don't want, you know, Mike to win a bet
1:16:59
Speaker 5: against you, like who can make the most free throws,
1:17:02
Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden, a grudge gets started,
1:17:05
Speaker 5: a seed gets planted, and John can't ever forgive him
1:17:08
Speaker 5: for beating him at free throws in the backyard. Just
1:17:11
Speaker 5: stay away from one another and only talk football when
1:17:14
Speaker 5: you get together, and only at the office place. I
1:17:18
Speaker 5: don't want Mike to get drunk and say something inappropriate,
1:17:22
Speaker 5: and John, you know, is angry because you can't call
1:17:25
Speaker 5: my aunt Tilly that word. Yeah. I don't want any
1:17:30
Speaker 5: harm to come to this marriage.
1:17:34
Speaker 7: No, you definitely don't want to rock the boat. It's
1:17:36
Speaker 7: rolling right now.
1:17:37
Speaker 5: Don't sweat the little stuff. That's what I always tell
1:17:40
Speaker 5: married couples. Sleep in separate rooms.
1:17:44
Speaker 3: See a lot of marriage counseling. Yes, yeah, good for you.
1:17:46
Speaker 5: All right, Coming up next, one thing we did not
1:17:49
Speaker 5: talk about yet, or at least not much, but we'll
1:17:52
Speaker 5: dive into it next from the Super Bowl Sunday Sports
1:17:55
Speaker 5: Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
1:17:58
Speaker 7: Welcome to the Championship court room. Oh wow, you'll notice
1:18:01
Speaker 7: the bunting shippy. This is like champ Super Bowl, Championship
1:18:06
Speaker 7: bunting and spring training bunting all wrapped into one.
1:18:10
Speaker 5: I hear that they're going to raise the championship banner.
1:18:13
Speaker 5: We get to keep it here in the courtroom. Yeah, yeah,
1:18:15
Speaker 5: of course, yeah, not at luhmen, but.
1:18:18
Speaker 3: Here makes more sense in here, I agree.
1:18:20
Speaker 5: They usually nice spot for it.
1:18:22
Speaker 7: Yeah, right behind the bench here, And then they have
1:18:25
Speaker 7: a picture. They'll take a picture of the banner in
1:18:28
Speaker 7: the courtroom and hang that at luhman.
1:18:31
Speaker 5: I love that idea. Mm hmm. All right, Well, the
1:18:33
Speaker 5: old judge is here and he just said, hey, look,
1:18:38
Speaker 5: I know you're gonna ask me a football question, maybe
1:18:40
Speaker 5: even two. Can we not talk all football in the
1:18:44
Speaker 5: old judge courtroom today?
1:18:46
Speaker 3: That's fair?
1:18:47
Speaker 5: I think that is fair. So let's draw out a
1:18:49
Speaker 5: few topics Ashley and I will discuss them. When the
1:18:51
Speaker 5: old judge is hurt enough, he will bang his gavel.
1:18:54
Speaker 7: Yes, I gavel, cavel, galvel, I forgot my gavel, and
1:18:57
Speaker 7: then he.
1:18:58
Speaker 5: Will weigh in and whatever the old judge says, it
1:19:02
Speaker 5: goes into permanent record here in these here parts. All right,
1:19:07
Speaker 5: let's get things started, and I will ask a football
1:19:09
Speaker 5: question to get it started. All right, The Seahawks defense
1:19:13
Speaker 5: was the star on Sunday, but the kicking game just
1:19:17
Speaker 5: isn't getting enough love the last two days.
1:19:20
Speaker 13: Well, I would agree the kicking game did not get
1:19:22
Speaker 13: enough love. But I think that that's good, right, because
1:19:26
Speaker 13: you don't really want to talk about the kicking game.
1:19:27
Speaker 13: If it's doing its job, you shouldn't be talking about it.
1:19:30
Speaker 13: If they're not doing their job, that's when you talk
1:19:32
Speaker 13: about it, and nobody wants to hear that.
1:19:34
Speaker 5: Like NFL officials.
1:19:35
Speaker 13: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, just wanted to just just go out there, kick,
1:19:38
Speaker 13: walk back to your thing, all right, fives and hat taps.
1:19:41
Speaker 5: Normally, I don't want to give the kicking game any credit,
1:19:44
Speaker 5: and I know they deserve more than I've been willing
1:19:46
Speaker 5: to give them over my lifetime. But on this particular case,
1:19:50
Speaker 5: these two deserve a lot of credit. Myers was incredibly
1:19:53
Speaker 5: productive most points by a kicker and a super Bowl,
1:19:57
Speaker 5: and Michael Dixon was phenomenal Sunday, Like if a punder
1:20:01
Speaker 5: can be phenomenal. Michael Dixon, and it wasn't just punting.
1:20:05
Speaker 5: He got a bad snap that he got down as
1:20:08
Speaker 5: a holder. I mean he took a bad snap on
1:20:11
Speaker 5: a punt and quick kicked it and got it inside
1:20:13
Speaker 5: the ten. Michael Dixon was incredible on Sun Gavel Gavel Gavel.
1:20:19
Speaker 7: I think there is a lot of times that the
1:20:23
Speaker 7: conversation around kickers is not good, not it is not respectful,
1:20:29
Speaker 7: and understandably so.
1:20:31
Speaker 5: Doesn't belong in the courtroom.
1:20:32
Speaker 7: It doesn't well, there's times when you the respect for
1:20:36
Speaker 7: kickers needs to be It needs to be more. Now
1:20:40
Speaker 7: we have a lot. I mean, obviously I love the
1:20:42
Speaker 7: way that Hugh explains that it's one fifth, not special
1:20:46
Speaker 7: teams is one third. But I do think that the
1:20:49
Speaker 7: idea of the recipe of great defense offense, do do
1:20:56
Speaker 7: enough go ahead of Yeah, if you want to put
1:20:58
Speaker 7: up thirty thirty five, fine, and they almost did, but
1:21:02
Speaker 7: the idea of we're also going to control field position
1:21:05
Speaker 7: because they didn't have it right there at the beginning
1:21:06
Speaker 7: of the game. And it was a punt from Michael
1:21:09
Speaker 7: Dixon that ended up, excuse me, that ended up kind
1:21:12
Speaker 7: of flipping that whole thing where now it felt like,
1:21:14
Speaker 7: oh man, the Patriots are kind of swimming up hill,
1:21:17
Speaker 7: so to speak. There they got a tough road to
1:21:19
Speaker 7: hoe because they got a long ways to go. When
1:21:21
Speaker 7: they punted that down, that one at the two yard line,
1:21:24
Speaker 7: I thought there was no chance. I mean, I don't
1:21:26
Speaker 7: know if I've ever felt less confident that a team
1:21:29
Speaker 7: had a chance of going ninety eight yards for a
1:21:31
Speaker 7: touchdown than at that moment in time. And so yeah,
1:21:34
Speaker 7: I think Michael Dixon and Jason Myers deserve the credit
1:21:37
Speaker 7: that they're getting.
1:21:38
Speaker 5: Uh a little bit more. Good job boys, Jason.
1:21:43
Speaker 7: Dixon, Michael myersh Mike, Michael Myers.
1:21:46
Speaker 5: Oh wow, that's creepy. It was creepy. Next up, Lindsey
1:21:50
Speaker 5: Vaughn needs to retire, but she probably won't.
1:21:54
Speaker 3: I think she probably will.
1:21:57
Speaker 5: I think she's finally going to do it this.
1:21:58
Speaker 13: I think breaking your upper leg in two places in
1:22:02
Speaker 13: a horrific accident like that after a knee replacement and
1:22:06
Speaker 13: a torn acl and those are just like the most
1:22:08
Speaker 13: recent injuries.
1:22:11
Speaker 3: I just don't know that she I guess maybe we're
1:22:15
Speaker 3: I think she'd be done with the Olympics. Is that fair?
1:22:18
Speaker 13: Like she might do another competition if she can heal
1:22:20
Speaker 13: in the next two years.
1:22:22
Speaker 3: But I don't see her being ready for another Olympics again.
1:22:25
Speaker 5: Boy, I think she should. I mean, she's accomplished so much,
1:22:28
Speaker 5: so much, and if ever there was any doubt about
1:22:31
Speaker 5: her toughness, tenacity or willingness, I mean, I mean, she's
1:22:35
Speaker 5: going to be remembered forever for this injury because she
1:22:38
Speaker 5: probably shouldn't have been out there, but she was playing
1:22:41
Speaker 5: through the pain. But when her father says I'm going
1:22:45
Speaker 5: to do my best to convince her to retire, my
1:22:48
Speaker 5: guess is he doesn't know if he can do it.
1:22:51
Speaker 5: I think she just is addicted to gavel gavel gal.
1:22:54
Speaker 5: You're right, I don't know for sure.
1:22:56
Speaker 7: If I mean she started at seventeen, she's like forty now,
1:23:00
Speaker 7: like it, She's been doing this forever, right, I mean,
1:23:03
Speaker 7: this is who she is. I can tell you is
1:23:05
Speaker 7: I mean, anybody that's played any sports, when it's when,
1:23:08
Speaker 7: when it's over, when the curtain drops for the final
1:23:11
Speaker 7: time and you're no longer that, there is a there's
1:23:14
Speaker 7: a depression, there's a morning that happens, and I suppose
1:23:17
Speaker 7: everybody has to deal with it. You don't get to
1:23:19
Speaker 7: play forever, and yet it seems like she's I think
1:23:23
Speaker 7: she's probably gonna want to come back. I don't think
1:23:26
Speaker 7: she's gonna want to end it on this note. And
1:23:28
Speaker 7: yet I'm with you, guys, I think she probably should.
1:23:31
Speaker 13: It's interesting too, because she keeps making a point to say, like,
1:23:34
Speaker 13: this was not because of my acl my aunt. My
1:23:36
Speaker 13: pole clipped the flag. It caused me to turn, That's
1:23:39
Speaker 13: why I fell. It had nothing to do with my knee.
1:23:41
Speaker 13: I just think, like what we were talking about after
1:23:43
Speaker 13: the show yesterday, she's kind of just she goes out
1:23:45
Speaker 13: there with reckless abandon.
1:23:46
Speaker 3: I mean, it is just flying down that hill. What
1:23:48
Speaker 3: you have to do, right, you're in a competition. But
1:23:51
Speaker 3: I don't know.
1:23:52
Speaker 5: I think if you, if you had a healthy knees,
1:23:55
Speaker 5: you probably wouldn't have hit that pole. Yeah, I don't know.
1:23:58
Speaker 5: You may kind of go hand in hand.
1:24:00
Speaker 13: Yeah, but she said it was her ski pole that
1:24:01
Speaker 13: hit the right the flag, and so it caused her
1:24:04
Speaker 13: upper body to twist, not her lower body, and then
1:24:07
Speaker 13: she couldn't control the rest of it.
1:24:09
Speaker 5: Yeah.
1:24:09
Speaker 10: I don't know.
1:24:10
Speaker 3: You're going so fast, it's so hard, you know, I.
1:24:12
Speaker 5: Don't know how anybody does it. I can't even stand
1:24:14
Speaker 5: up on those things, much less slide down a hill.
1:24:17
Speaker 7: It would be interesting to see you on top of
1:24:20
Speaker 7: that hill because where she wrecked was early. That's where
1:24:22
Speaker 7: they gained. They go from my zero to eighty miles
1:24:25
Speaker 7: an hour.
1:24:26
Speaker 5: It's incredible record for most broken spots bones. Yeah, yeah,
1:24:31
Speaker 5: that's what I don't want that. Yeah, I might have
1:24:34
Speaker 5: set a record that can't be broken. I think I
1:24:37
Speaker 5: could break it in all of them pieces. All right,
1:24:40
Speaker 5: let's go to the next one. Cal Rowley is the
1:24:44
Speaker 5: interview you're looking most forward to during Chuck and Buck's
1:24:47
Speaker 5: award winning spring training coverage next week.
1:24:50
Speaker 3: No, Josh Naylor, That's where I was going.
1:24:54
Speaker 13: I've been counting down. I'm like, finally we're going to
1:24:56
Speaker 13: get to hear from Josh Naylor.
1:24:58
Speaker 3: I can't wait.
1:24:58
Speaker 5: That's where I was going. I always prefer the new
1:25:01
Speaker 5: guys anyway. I mean, I can't wait to talk to him.
1:25:04
Speaker 3: I'm still exciting.
1:25:05
Speaker 5: But I thought for sure that cal Rawley would be
1:25:08
Speaker 5: the obvious choice of you and probably everybody listening. But
1:25:11
Speaker 5: Josh Naylor cannot wait to have Josh Naylor on the
1:25:15
Speaker 5: show and in that format, because that format is the
1:25:18
Speaker 5: key to it where we just get to go twenty minutes.
1:25:21
Speaker 5: You don't have to worry about it and we just
1:25:22
Speaker 5: get to talk.
1:25:23
Speaker 7: Yes, Gavel, Cavel, Gavel. I can't wait to hear from
1:25:28
Speaker 7: Josh Naylor. Don't you don't you dare? Don't you dare
1:25:32
Speaker 7: put Dumper aside? Don't you dare?
1:25:35
Speaker 3: No? Fourth on mind putting them aside?
1:25:37
Speaker 5: Fourth second min Cal.
1:25:39
Speaker 7: If you're listening, don't I apologize.
1:25:41
Speaker 3: We also just had him on. That's the other thing
1:25:44
Speaker 3: I mean tonight.
1:25:46
Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm excited for it, but we haven't had Josh
1:25:48
Speaker 13: Naylor on.
1:25:49
Speaker 3: That's why it's anticipatory.
1:25:51
Speaker 7: No, no, No, Cal's Numper one.
1:25:55
Speaker 5: Well he is coming off a pretty good year, so
1:25:58
Speaker 5: it's pretty bad. Yeah, yeah, kind of a headliner. I mean,
1:26:02
Speaker 5: if I'm going on the In for Nest show on
1:26:05
Speaker 5: Tuesday and I got Cal coming up on Wednesday, probably
1:26:08
Speaker 5: gonna say Cal Rawley.
1:26:09
Speaker 7: Tomorrow on the show, probably promoted excited about all of
1:26:12
Speaker 7: them pictures less then, but I'm excited about all of them.
1:26:15
Speaker 5: Well, pictures Wednesday. We know that's got to happen. Its
1:26:18
Speaker 5: pictures Day. Yeah, we're doing it. We don't have to
1:26:20
Speaker 5: make any Daylidy just non athletes Day's holiday.
1:26:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, get them all in at once, that's right.
1:26:26
Speaker 5: But the other two, Brendan Donovan and Kate Anderson, the newcomers.
1:26:30
Speaker 5: I want the new number, thirty three, Brendan Donovan. I
1:26:33
Speaker 5: can't wait to see, is that right? Going thirty three?
1:26:35
Speaker 1: Yep?
1:26:35
Speaker 5: Look at that.
1:26:37
Speaker 3: Accidentally calling Bucky Jacobson nice.
1:26:39
Speaker 7: I don't think there's much similarities there.
1:26:42
Speaker 5: You're both kind of ginger, and you both have had
1:26:44
Speaker 5: a mullet in your life.
1:26:46
Speaker 1: He still has one.
1:26:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, both baseball.
1:26:49
Speaker 5: You can hit a baseball, not a lot of speed,
1:26:52
Speaker 5: a lot of speed. Both are in the cardinal organization
1:26:57
Speaker 5: at one point.
1:26:58
Speaker 3: Similarities are piling the practical.
1:27:00
Speaker 5: Yeah, practically not.
1:27:02
Speaker 13: But if I looked up his birthday and it was
1:27:04
Speaker 13: the same day as yours, that'd be cool.
1:27:06
Speaker 10: All right.
1:27:06
Speaker 5: Final one. With football season ending and baseball season immediately beginning,
1:27:11
Speaker 5: it's going to be very difficult to get into basketball season.
1:27:15
Speaker 3: Oh, yes, very difficult.
1:27:18
Speaker 13: I'll be ready for a basketball season the first day
1:27:21
Speaker 13: of March Madness.
1:27:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's about it.
1:27:24
Speaker 5: I've been watching a lot more than we've talked about
1:27:27
Speaker 5: on the air, and I think it is a really
1:27:29
Speaker 5: exciting year. This is one of the great freshman classes
1:27:32
Speaker 5: in the history of college basketball. I mean, they are sensational,
1:27:36
Speaker 5: but you're right, it's hard with all this other stuff
1:27:39
Speaker 5: going on, and now we're practically overlapping. If they ever
1:27:42
Speaker 5: go to an eighteen game schedule, we're going to be
1:27:44
Speaker 5: overlapping Spring Training and the Super Bowl for goodness sake,
1:27:47
Speaker 5: poor basketball. So we need the Sonics back and and
1:27:51
Speaker 5: I need a little extra time to get ready for
1:27:53
Speaker 5: March Madness because I am right now illoquit.
1:27:56
Speaker 7: Gavel, gavel, gavel. What is this bad sketball, you taco?
1:28:02
Speaker 5: What is it? Is it basketball?
1:28:05
Speaker 3: Basketball?
1:28:07
Speaker 7: Like the Sonics? Yeah, okay, yeah, I will care about
1:28:10
Speaker 7: it when the Sonics are back and when March Madness
1:28:14
Speaker 7: comes around. Because you're right, super Bowl, Spring Training, if
1:28:18
Speaker 7: you can make an impression on me in the next
1:28:20
Speaker 7: three days, bat bamsketball, go ahead.
1:28:22
Speaker 5: They really do. Just have three days in our world.
1:28:26
Speaker 7: So like, uh yeah, because I'll probably be watching the
1:28:29
Speaker 7: Winter Olympics.
1:28:30
Speaker 5: I'm going to watch a lot of college basketball.
1:28:32
Speaker 3: Oh, I will be watching more Olympics and college basketball.
1:28:35
Speaker 7: Really yeah, I'll be watching some speed skating.
1:28:38
Speaker 5: See. But they were never going to talk about that, No,
1:28:41
Speaker 5: I don't better in long form entertaining. Actually, there's some enjoyableketball.
1:28:46
Speaker 5: I don't care if swits Switzerland's better than us at skiing.
1:28:50
Speaker 13: I'm going to be watching I'm definitely gonna be watching
1:28:52
Speaker 13: the Olympic hockey.
1:28:53
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, yeah, I'll watch the Olympic hockey, all right.
1:28:56
Speaker 5: Coming up next, we close out the show, well, the
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Speaker 5: one last thing on Sports Radio ninety three point three
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