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  them and is always talking about it in a way that's really
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  funny yeah i love that i
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  love that well what i was going to say about david copperfield
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  that i wrote in this
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  newsletter on substack is like david copperfield unlike the
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  morgesons has titled
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  chapter headings because it was serialized i think in part and
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  you know david
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  copperfield is 600 pages but like if you want to know what
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  happens you could just
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  read the names of the titles i mean the titles of the chapters
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  including my aunt
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  SPEAKER_00: astonishes me which is the greatest title of any chapter ever
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  SPEAKER_01: But it's like chapter one, I am born.
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  SPEAKER_01: Chapter two, I observe.
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  SPEAKER_01: Chapter three, I have a change.
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  SPEAKER_01: Chapter four, I fall into disgrace.
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  SPEAKER_01: Chapter five, I am sent away from home.
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  SPEAKER_01: Chapter six, I enlarge my circle of acquaintance.
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  SPEAKER_01: And like that is what happens to Cassandra.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's true.
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  It's like and that's actually you could use that for any
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  Bildungsroman from the 19th century.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like they're born.
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  SPEAKER_01: They look around.
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  they usually suffer some sort of embarrassment or shame and
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  then they go away yeah
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  and they meet people and that's like how you become a person
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  and you kind of like
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  bumble through yeah and i think like david copperfield is also
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  a writer cassandra
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  is a writer but like david copperfield is so much more
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  confident and like kind of
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  brazen and like cassandra is just she's very confident and sort
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  of outspoken but
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  SPEAKER_00: she's weird okay final question okay so
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  i think we should do gilmore girls style like rory or sorry
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  rory going for justine
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  or logan cassandra's three love interests who are ben summers
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  charles morgeson and
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  desmond desmond summers should we do a fourth her dad but you
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  can't choose the dad
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  SPEAKER_01: no wait can i first know are you logan just or dean
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  I'm obviously Logan it goes without saying but I feel like I'm
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  in my actual
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  romantic life have only dated Jess so so do with that what you
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  want yeah so like
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  what I want versus what I like yes do as I say not as I do kind
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  of thing Desmond
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  SPEAKER_01: Ben or Charles Charles
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  SPEAKER_01: Desmond Benner Charles.
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  SPEAKER_01: Should I explain why?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah,
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  because I guess I'm not like I think that everything ends up as
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  it should in this
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  SPEAKER_01: novel,
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  SPEAKER_01: including Charles is like tragic ending.
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  But I think that I'm evaluating Cassandra's three love
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  interests based off of the
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  SPEAKER_01: way that they help her to grow.
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  And I think that what she sees in Charles and what Charles sees
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  in her is like
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  SPEAKER_01: really important to her growth.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean,
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  SPEAKER_00: in that way,
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  like Charles kind of is Jess and Ben kind of is Dean and
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  Desmond kind of is Logan.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  Because Desmond's this like adventure who like brings her into
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  a bigger world.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they go like Logan does.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  yeah but it's like very challenging to her and has like a
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  fucked up family dynamic
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  yeah his dad has gout yeah and should we explain the baby no
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  okay just to make any
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  sense like confounding thing about the book and like jess and
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  charles both have the
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  thing of like making rory like more comfortable with herself
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  yeah as opposed to
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  like forcing her out into a world that she's uncomfortable in
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  but like for the
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  SPEAKER_00: better
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah,
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  SPEAKER_01: I think she needs Logan to grow,
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  SPEAKER_01: but it's not necessarily like she's not becoming her true self via Logan.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, and Ben and Dean are the same because they're losers.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  And they are going to like be pining and they're going to like
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  Ben is so much better than Dean.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're going to hold you back.
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  yeah but that's why ben ends up with very because very doesn't
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  need like very
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  doesn't need someone to push her out she like needs someone to
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  stay back with her
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  to be idolized by yeah like ben just wants to worship and like
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  veronica's like two
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  doing her own thing to like need anything other than to be
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  worshipped yeah you know
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  SPEAKER_01: it's like great for her to be worshipped yeah
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  so yeah i mean i guess in conclusion i would just say even if
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  you didn't follow our
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  conversation i hope you got the main point which is that this
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  is the best book ever
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  and we love it so much and you can buy it right now on
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  mandylinepress.com or you
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  can go to your local bookstore and ask for it it's probably
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  already there swag or
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  you can ask them to order it from art book dap our distributor
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  um please read this
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  SPEAKER_01: book and tell us what you think
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  SPEAKER_01: Thanks guys.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Love you.