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Hour 4 - Top 5 Jackass · The Ben Maller Show

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Oh what is going on?
• 0:01
  Speaker 2: We'll get back to Coop's craziness saying pie is vastly
• 0:07
  Speaker 2: superior to cheesecake. I've got worse news for you, worst
• 0:11
  Speaker 2: news another hot food take gone wrong from Coop. But
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  Speaker 2: that's later in the show. It's all business, right, all
• 0:18
  Speaker 2: freaking business right here. So we had Game five of
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  Speaker 2: the NBA Finals. I'm gonna get to some ball. Ball
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  Speaker 2: is on the brain. Football is always on the brain.
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  Speaker 1: Here.
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  Speaker 2: There is a former teammate who thinks that Aaron Rodgers
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  Speaker 2: is not gonna have a great year, doesn't see the
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  Speaker 2: Steelers making the playoffs, and his reasoning is pretty interesting.
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  Speaker 1: So I'll get to that here momentarily.
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  Speaker 2: First, though, I'm watching I'm rewatching Game five of the
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  Speaker 2: NBA Finals. It's being replayed right now on ESPN, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm just watching Halliburton in the second half, and he's
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  Speaker 2: given him nothing. He's given the Pacers nothing. He's affected
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  Speaker 2: by his calf injury. And I bring this up again,
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  Speaker 2: one because I'm watching it and it's right in front
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  Speaker 2: of my face, and two because it just dawned on
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  Speaker 2: me that in the postgame press conference, Rick Carlyle, the
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  Speaker 2: PACER's head coach. He said this, He's like, clearly he's
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  Speaker 2: not one hundred percent. That's obvious, and then he went
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  Speaker 2: on to talk about Tyrese Haliburton. But the important part
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  Speaker 2: is he flat out told us he's like, yeah, he's
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  Speaker 2: clearly not one hundred percent. He's absolutely affected out there.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like, oh my gosh, dude, again you're seeing
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  Speaker 2: this but not doing anything about it. You gotta play
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  Speaker 2: TJ McConnell gotta he had the goods in Game five.
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  Speaker 2: Tyrese Haliburton didn't. And I realize Haliburton's your star player
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  Speaker 2: and you want him out there and you want to
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  Speaker 2: think the best. You've seen it time and time again
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  Speaker 2: where he's hit big shots, he's had big impacts, those
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  Speaker 2: sorts of things, but he was affected by that calf injury,
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  Speaker 2: something that Rick Carlyle detailed in the postgame press conference.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, Hey, it's clearly not one hundred percent, But
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  Speaker 2: I thought I'd just trot him out there because he's
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  Speaker 2: our guy, right, Like it's like, hey, Rick, what about
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  Speaker 2: McConnell eighteen points in twenty two minutes. How about just
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  Speaker 2: playing that guy instead of Haliburton, who, in your words,
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  Speaker 2: is clearly not one hundred percent did you think about
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  Speaker 2: doing that?
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  Speaker 1: Why didn't you do that?
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  Speaker 2: Right? So let's start it off here. We start with
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  Speaker 2: Tyrese Halliburton. He's talking about playing despite his injury in
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  Speaker 2: Game five tweak the calf muscle.
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  Speaker 1: Here you go. I mean, he's NBA Finals. It's the finals.
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  Speaker 3: Man. I've worked my whole life to be here, and
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  Speaker 3: I want to be out there to compete. You know
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  Speaker 3: how my teammates anyway, I can. You know, I was
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  Speaker 3: not great tonight by any means, but uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's not really a thought of mine to to not
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  Speaker 3: play here. You know, if I fucking uh you know, walk,
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  Speaker 3: then then I want to play. So you know they
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  Speaker 3: understand that, and uh, you know is what it is.
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  Speaker 3: And uh you know, got to be ready to go
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  Speaker 3: for Game six.
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  Speaker 2: Totally fine with that. That is the athlete's mentality right there. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: if you if you can walk, just like you said,
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  Speaker 2: you want to be out there.
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  Speaker 1: And I know some people will look.
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  Speaker 2: At Tyres and say, hey, uh, this selfless thing to
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  Speaker 2: do is to have a team first attitude and just
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  Speaker 2: come to grips with hey, man, I'm not full go
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  Speaker 2: here tonight. I'm hampered and McConnell's got it. I don't, Hey, coach,
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  Speaker 2: put McConnell in there. That's not what athletes think and
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  Speaker 2: say like, that's what makes athletes special. Is this abnormal
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  Speaker 2: belief in themselves elves and you want them to just
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  Speaker 2: table that. So no, I hold, I don't know Tyrese
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  Speaker 2: Haliburton acconnable for any of this. Every athlete, especially like
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  Speaker 2: star athletes, are going to think that they can do
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  Speaker 2: things that are pretty freaking out landish. And Haliburton has
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  Speaker 2: done some outlandish things in these playoffs, some of.
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  Speaker 1: The shots that he's hit.
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  Speaker 2: The shot against the Knicks to send it to overtime
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  Speaker 2: was absurd, the Game one winner at OKAC where they
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  Speaker 2: were on Monday night, same venue and everything. So of
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  Speaker 2: course Tyree's Halliburton is gonna think, hey, I might not
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  Speaker 2: be one hundred percent, but I can make a difference.
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  Speaker 1: I want to be out there. I'm gonna be out there.
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  Speaker 2: It's up to Rick Carlisle to say, hey, you don't
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  Speaker 2: quite have it tonight. You know, sometimes you don't let
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  Speaker 2: the bowl out of the cage. You keep the ball
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  Speaker 2: in the cage. And that was the best opportunity to
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  Speaker 2: do it.
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  Speaker 1: Tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Like watching the replay right now, they're just coin to
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  Speaker 2: down showing McConnell hitting two straight shots, like right to
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  Speaker 2: the paint bucket, driving to the rim bucket, another drive
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  Speaker 2: to the rim, fade away bucket.
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  Speaker 1: They're just showing highlight after.
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  Speaker 2: Highlight of McConnell doing work, and Halliburton's the ones getting
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  Speaker 2: all these minutes in the fourth quarter. So this is
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  Speaker 2: Rick Carlile, This is what really matters him talking about
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  Speaker 2: Tyree's Halliburton's injury.
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  Speaker 1: Check this out.
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  Speaker 4: He's not one hundred percent. It's pretty clear. But I
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  Speaker 4: don't think he's gonna miss the next game. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: we were concerned at halftime and he insisted I'm playing,
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  Speaker 4: and I thought. I thought he made a lot of
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  Speaker 4: really good things happen in the second half. But he's not.
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  Speaker 4: He's not one hundred percent, you know, and there's a
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  Speaker 4: lot of guys in the series that aren't.
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  Speaker 2: He made a lot of really good things happen in
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  Speaker 2: the second half. Follow up question, Rick, what would some
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  Speaker 2: of those things be? Of the things that he made
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  Speaker 2: happen that were really good. He had a couple of assists,
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  Speaker 2: but no buckets, not a one all four points were
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  Speaker 2: from the free throw line. I just flat out disagree.
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  Speaker 2: He told you he's like, he's not one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 2: It's pretty clear. Okay, pause, how about I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: playing the guy who is one hundred percent and had
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  Speaker 2: the hot hand. No, no, no, okay, all right, that's
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  Speaker 2: does that makes sense? But all right, Rick, you're the
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  Speaker 2: guy that has the ring with the MAVs, and who
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  Speaker 2: am im media guy to question?
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  Speaker 1: You know?
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  Speaker 2: But come on, man, think about that SoundBite. He's not
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  Speaker 2: one hundred percent. It's pretty clear. And then I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if he realized it toward the end of that
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  Speaker 2: sound bite. People are gonna question why he was out
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  Speaker 2: there for that many minutes and Macon wasn't. As McConnell
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  Speaker 2: hits a deep shot wow on the replay crazy. That's
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  Speaker 2: it's almost like he was hitting shots all game long.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if Carlisle realized that halfway through the SoundBite.
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  Speaker 2: And then he's like, but Haliberti, he made some really
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  Speaker 2: good things happened in the second half, Like those what
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  Speaker 2: those two assists? WHOA, those are big, they're big compared
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  Speaker 2: to all the mishots and the lack of impact not
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  Speaker 2: collapsing the defense, not being able to drive, like being
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  Speaker 2: half the version of himself we're accustomed to. Don't play
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  Speaker 2: that guy. This is pivotal Game five. It's just a
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  Speaker 2: missed opportunity. We got to get to this. I just
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  Speaker 2: love the description Mark Dagnault, the Thunderhead coach. The description
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  Speaker 2: is the crowd puts the wind in our backs.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's terrible.
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  Speaker 2: That's I want to hear if he says that quote unquote.
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  Speaker 1: Let's listen together. Here's Mark Dagnault.
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  Speaker 5: I think the crowd puts the win at our back.
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  Speaker 5: I'm always I always marvel at how enthusiastic and positive
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  Speaker 5: they remain in the ebbs and flows of a game
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  Speaker 5: or of a season. You know, they're always trying to
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  Speaker 5: put the win at our back. They're always trying to
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  Speaker 5: lift the team up. And I just think that's a
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  Speaker 5: great spirit that's on display in all these games. But
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  Speaker 5: they were amazing tonight, obviously.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that's gonna be my main talking point if
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  Speaker 2: there is a Game seven, I'm going to back okay, see,
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  Speaker 2: because hey man, that crowd puts the wind at their backs,
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  Speaker 2: and how are you going to compete with that? Are
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  Speaker 2: you going to compete with the wind at their backs
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  Speaker 2: due to that Oka see crowd.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: One other thing, some of the complaining is just obnoxious
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  Speaker 2: with the NBA in particular, some of the whining about
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  Speaker 2: the fouls. I understand the complaining about Game four when
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  Speaker 2: SGA pushed off on Nie Smith and traveled and there
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  Speaker 2: was no call on either. I can fully understand complaining
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  Speaker 2: as far as that goes. There's complaining about SGA getting
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  Speaker 2: fouled on a tip on a jump ball. TJ McConnell,
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  Speaker 2: who's much shorter and not jumping as high, trying to
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  Speaker 2: tip the ball and instead tipped the wrist of SGA,
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  Speaker 2: and they called the foul because it was like, you
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  Speaker 2: don't see fouls on tipped balls typically unless there is
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  Speaker 2: a foul. I just thought some of the complaining is
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  Speaker 2: just like, guys, they're worse than NBA players sometimes, you know,
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  Speaker 2: sometimes the players like doing the index finger twirl, like
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  Speaker 2: review that, review that.
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  Speaker 1: And then you look at the replane and you're like.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, it's like a foul all day, what are you
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  Speaker 2: talking about?
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  Speaker 1: That was one of those complaints. I just didn't understand.
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  Speaker 2: There are tweets and everything about it, like this was
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  Speaker 2: the first time ever NBA Finals history, there was a
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  Speaker 2: foul on a tipped ball on a jump ball. I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to keep saying tipped ball. It's because it
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  Speaker 2: was a file he raked a across the wrist. What
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  Speaker 2: do you want me to tell you? Update? McConnell hit another.
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  Speaker 1: Shot, But let's get Let's get Halliburton and his lack
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  Speaker 1: of impact back in there. Let's do that.
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  Speaker 2: Clearly, not one hundred percent, it's pretty clear. Like in
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  Speaker 2: Rick Carlyle's words, Let's get the guy who's not one
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  Speaker 2: and it's pretty clear.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get him right back on the floor.
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  Speaker 2: Let's sit the guy with the hot hand who just
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  Speaker 2: made a lefty layup look very easy. Let's get McConnell
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  Speaker 2: on the bench. Halle halle, get in there. There a
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  Speaker 2: lack of impact. We need a little more. Lack of
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  Speaker 2: impact in a pivotal game. Five A great job, great,
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  Speaker 2: great job. Thank goodness. I wasn't betting on the Pacers
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  Speaker 2: plus the points. It sounds like it sounds like this
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  Speaker 2: whole monologue is driven solely by me being bent because
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  Speaker 2: I backed the Pacers plus the points and Carlyle made
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  Speaker 2: some shaky decisions with the lineup. It that's not it
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  Speaker 2: at all. I didn't bet the Pacers. I didn't have
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  Speaker 2: a bet on the side. I had to pick on
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: Indiana going over their team total, and they did.
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  Speaker 1: They got there by the way. Side note, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: What it is with the Pacers on the road in
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  Speaker 2: the second half of this series. They've been tremendous in
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  Speaker 2: every second half, scoring the ball left and right. They
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  Speaker 2: only had what like forty five points at halftime. They
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  Speaker 2: ended with one oh nine. Like that's a healthy second
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  Speaker 2: half against okc's defense. I just I would love to
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  Speaker 2: know how it would have unfolded if they played McConnell
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  Speaker 2: Moore and Rick Carlisle sat Halliburton Moore.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we'll never know. We'll never know the answer to
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  Speaker 1: that question.
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  Speaker 2: I think if Carlile's being completely honest with himself, he's
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  Speaker 2: gotta be second guessing.
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  Speaker 1: That decision has to be how could you not? How
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  Speaker 1: could you just be like, hey, dance with who brung you?
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  Speaker 2: And that's that It's like not if that guy can't
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  Speaker 2: get out there to dance, that changes the math completely.
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  Speaker 2: All right, feel free to check in. Malan Militia always welcome.
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  Speaker 2: We'll roll out the red carpet for you as McConnell
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  Speaker 2: hits an and one.
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  Speaker 1: Bucket in the paint. That's amazing. I didn't realize he
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  Speaker 1: had this many points in the third quarter. Good lord,
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  Speaker 1: he's like putting the pacers on his back. And then
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  Speaker 1: he hardly got minutes in the fourth quarter. Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: It's even worse when you see the replay.
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  Speaker 2: When I'm watching the third, I don't know that mcconnald's
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  Speaker 2: gonna sit for most of the fourth.
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  Speaker 1: He's like inspiring the team. They're coming back.
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  Speaker 2: The whole bench just erupted as he hit a shot
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  Speaker 2: while getting filed by a couple of dudes.
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  Speaker 1: It goes to the free throw line for the end
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  Speaker 1: one unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, let's sit that guy. He's just inspiring everybody.
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  Speaker 2: He's hitting shot after shot. Let's bring in the guy
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  Speaker 2: who's injured. Let's definitely do that. It's just a terrible decision.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Big Ben Malor. I'll tell you what Coop is, just
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  Speaker 2: digging a deep, deep hole with this pie and she's
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  Speaker 2: cake nonsense. My gosh, he's gotten Lee Robert Lap the Fourth,
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  Speaker 2: my good friend, producer of two Pros and a Cup
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  Speaker 2: of Joe. He's got him in on the madness. It's
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  Speaker 2: crazy what's happening behind the scenes at FSR.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Lee, that's right, that's a great drop right there.
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  Speaker 1: I love that. I normally play like Beethoven or.
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  Speaker 2: Something like that with uh with Lee Robert to Lap
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  Speaker 2: the Fourth. By the way, we'll get to the pie
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  Speaker 2: and cheese cake thing here in a bit but uh,
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  Speaker 2: it does remind me.
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  Speaker 1: There is some news I always call Robert de lap
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  Speaker 1: by his full full name. I love that, right with that,
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  Speaker 1: Lorena very nice.
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  Speaker 7: I enjoy it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to get out here. It's Mozart. This
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  Speaker 2: is what I normally do. Like whenever I introduce Lee,
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  Speaker 2: I'll say, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, Lee, Robert, you have to have that.
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  Speaker 2: You have to have the Mozart in there, right, It's
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  Speaker 2: the perfect way to introduce him. But wow, Yeah, Tampa
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  Speaker 2: Bay wide receiver Chris Godwin has added a junior to
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  Speaker 2: his name. Will be Chris Godwin Junior. Now, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know about you, but when these when athletes add something
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  Speaker 2: to their name, I'm kind of like, oh gosh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I can't be the only one where you get so
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  Speaker 2: used to calling a player by a certain name or
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  Speaker 2: Keenan McCardell. He's like, I want you to pronounce a
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  Speaker 2: little bit differently. It's not mccardal anymore. It's McCardell. And
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  Speaker 2: you're like, good lord, dude, It's gonna take me years
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  Speaker 2: to actually get that down. I'm still calling them the
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  Speaker 2: San Diego Chargers, you know. But Chris Godwin Junior, he added,
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  Speaker 2: the junior because of his late father, and he wrote
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  Speaker 2: something on social media. It was very very nice, thoughtful message,
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  Speaker 2: and he explained he had an amazing relationship with his
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  Speaker 2: dad from youth football through high school. His dad was
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  Speaker 2: always there for him, yelling in support of his son,
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  Speaker 2: and he had many other nice things to say about him.
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  Speaker 2: And he said he lost his pops in the January
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  Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four and Father's Day last year was
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: a time of reflection and introspection. And then this year,
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: he said, Father's Day represents a full circle moment in
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  Speaker 2: his life journey and he was celebrating for the first
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  Speaker 2: time with his son Ace. By the way, great name,
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  Speaker 2: great name for a son, Ace, Godwin.
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  Speaker 1: Now you're cooking right there. I love that.
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  Speaker 8: That's my nephew's name.
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  Speaker 6: Ace.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, that's a tremendous name. Is his middle name of Spades?
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  Speaker 2: Just no, that would be next level right there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And Godwin Junior said fatherhood has already been an unbelievable
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  Speaker 2: experience and has changed me in so many ways. I
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  Speaker 2: can only hope that Ace feels the same way about
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  Speaker 2: me as I do about my dad. And then in closing,
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  Speaker 2: he added, as a professional athlete. You were always recognized
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  Speaker 2: for the name on the front of your jersey, but
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  Speaker 2: I also play for the name that printed on the back.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I've chosen to add junior to my name
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  Speaker 2: in honor of the man who gave so unselfishly of
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  Speaker 2: himself to others and helped mold me into who I
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  Speaker 2: am today. Love you, Pops, and that's why Tampa Bay
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  Speaker 2: wide receiver Chris Godwin has added junior. So I think
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  Speaker 2: the backstory changes a lot there, and you should know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's where it stems from.
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  Speaker 2: You don't just like I'm gonna add junior, Like I'm
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  Speaker 2: not Brian No Junior. My dad is Philip No, but
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  Speaker 2: my middle name is Philip. But I can't just add
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  Speaker 2: junior like. So it's obvious where it comes from, but
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  Speaker 2: I don't know it just changed it hearing his words
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  Speaker 2: for me, where I'm like, wow, okay, it's a lot
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  Speaker 2: more impactful. I'm not gonna whind like I gotta learn
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  Speaker 2: a new name now, and it's so much longer than
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  Speaker 2: it was before. It's okay. It's a point of pride.
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  Speaker 2: It's a relationship, it's a bond. There's a deep meaning
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  Speaker 2: to it. So I appreciate that from h Chris Godwin
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  Speaker 2: Junior now at the junior there.
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  Speaker 8: Not to take away from the deepness and the back
• 18:04
  Speaker 8: to Pye. No no, no, So how many can you
• 18:09
  Speaker 8: think of?
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: Off?
• 18:10
  Speaker 8: Because I found that to be an interesting topic? And
• 18:12
  Speaker 8: I remember how many can you think of off the
• 18:13
  Speaker 8: top of your head athletes that did that okay, changed
• 18:17
  Speaker 8: how they wanted their name said after years of everybody
• 18:22
  Speaker 8: either saying it wrong or yeah. Because there's only one
• 18:24
  Speaker 8: that pops into my mind, even though I know there's
• 18:27
  Speaker 8: a lot more, I just can't think of him. Well,
• 18:29
  Speaker 8: I mean there are a lot. The maccardell one definitely
• 18:33
  Speaker 8: jumps to my mind. I don't think I was alive
• 18:37
  Speaker 8: at the time. But Joe Thaisman, oh yeah, changing the
• 18:41
  Speaker 8: pronunciation rhyme with Heisman.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Sure, there have been other ones. What's the one on
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: your your mind right there?
• 18:48
  Speaker 8: Though? Ronnie Tourry off and Ronny Tourry Off.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: That's the one.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Huh you must be you're a Laker fan, you know, yeah,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Ronny Okay, that's the one.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just looking it up because I can't just
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: off the top of my head rattle off. I know,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: juniors and seniors have been added to a lot of
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: NFL names.
• 19:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know if I'm talking about like pronunciation.
• 19:17
  Speaker 8: I know there was a more recent one, and I
• 19:19
  Speaker 8: just it's I'm.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Not sure about pronunciation, but I know Deebo Samuel did it.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Where the former Niners wide receiver. He added, I'm looking
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: it up right now, but I think he added senior.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: I want to say senior, but let me make sure. Yeah,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Deebo Samuel senior. He added that to his name. There
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: have been examples of that, But I don't know about
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: the pronunciation thing, though, Coop, that's a good question.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: At some point recently. I'm gonna do some research now. Yeah,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: let me know if you uncover something right there. That's good.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: We got Coop off of the cheesecake topic because man,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: getting rough there for a second.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: We'll get to that when we close.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: A good closing topic, you know, because we've had spirited arguments,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: spirited debates about cheesecake and pie during breaks here on
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: the show.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Very nice.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: So this was a former Fox Sports radio colleague, Brady Papinga.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: I've done shows with Brady before, but Brady Papinga shared
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: a couple of thoughts about his former teammate Aaron Rodgers.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: And he doesn't think Rogers is gonna have.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: A great season, doesn't see the Steelers doing great things either,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: and the reasoning is pretty interesting when he came up with, oh,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: by the way, sidebar as, I'm questioning Rick Carlisle for
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: playing Tyrese Haliburton, who was affected by this calf injury.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: They're replaying the game right now in ESPN and Haliburton
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: is swatting the ball out of bounce. Maybe that's what
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: carl I was talking about the big impact in the
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: second half. There was that one ball he's swatted out
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: of bounds that they reviewed and it was okay, ces ball.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm just being a smartess, but.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: This is what Brady Papinga had to say about Aaron Rodgers.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: The reasoning is interesting, so he thinks Rogers is going
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: to struggle this season. Papinga was doing a recent interview
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: with Bill Ryder, who was also on Fox Sports Radio
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: as well, and Brady Papinga said that he went to
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: the Jets Patriots game last year and what stuck out
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: to him was that Rogers' body seemed tired and like
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: he doesn't want to take the hit, and he said,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of flinching. There's a lot of I
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: would say his vision is going from reading the field
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: to the rush, which isn't usually normal for high level quarterbacks.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: High level quarterbacks are.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Kind of able to feel the rush and then they're
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: able to then keep their eyes downfield. So he didn't
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: see that from Rogers last year. And he went on,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: He's like, he's not calling him soft, he's not saying
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: any of that. He's just saying it causes you to flinch.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: It's not being weak. It's not that he's not tough.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: It's just that you're getting tired. He said, Tom Brady
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: went through it, Brett Farv went through it, but everybody
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: goes through it in the game of football. And Papinko
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: was closing saying, the problem with that is that for
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: over seventeen games, he's not going to be able to
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: play at a caliber that's going to drive them to
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: be playoff contenders. That's his thought process right there. And
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: so you start thinking about this and it's like Rogers
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: has been sacked five hundred and seventy one times in
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: his career. That's an NFL record for the most sacks
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: taken by a quarterback. And the first example I thought
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: of when Brady mentioned Tom Brady Brett Farv. The first
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: thing I thought of with Brett Farvre was the nine
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: NFC title game. It is the famous game against the uh,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: the Saints, and instead of scrambling for you know, five
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: seven yards setting up a long field goal, but a
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: makeable long field goal, Farv through the ball across his
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: body middle of the field, picked off Tracy Porter. And
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: that's when the Vikings radio crew is like, how could
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: you even fathom passing at a time like this or
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: something like this was right along those lines there it is, Yeah,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: very nice coop. By the way, it's Christian Pondeir right now.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you knew they changed the.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's uh, that's exactly what Brady Papinka is
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: talking about. And Brett Farv took a beating that game.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Remember that that was the bounty gate game. That was
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: when you know, the crazy defensive coordinator was like.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Hit the head effect, it hit the head. Hit that
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: bastard in the head.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: He was just going off on Brett Farv in telling
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: the Saints to do that, and Greg Williams, the former
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: defensive coordinator in the NFL, and like Brett Farvett, looking back,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense. Right, took so many hits
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: that game clearly could have scrambled, but that probably would
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: have required another hit unless he slid, but probably wouldn't
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: do that with the game on the line the way
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: it was, And maybe it was a subconscious thing where
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: his body was like, yeah, just get rid of it
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: late across the middle, against the grain, throwing against your body, yeah, man,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: might work out.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: You're at least gonna avoid a hit.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: You know, could have factored into that decision being made,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: and so farv if you look at Rogers, I'll put
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: it this way, what Brady Papinga is explaining is very
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: valuable because it gets you away from box score analysis.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of solely box score analysis. I don't
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: think fundamentally there's anything wrong with just as a reference point. Hey,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: what were Rogers numbers like last year? I don't think
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: there's anything fundamentally wrong with that. But when you're so
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: beholden to that and only considering it, I think that
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: can become a problem where if you look at Rogers,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: he threw for nearly thirty nine hundred yards, so he's
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: in the area of a four thousand yard season through
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: twenty eight touchdown passes eleven interceptions. His passer writing was
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: into that. You know, Rogers had a high level of attempts.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: He had the second most attempts in the NFL, So
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: that's going to spruce up the numbers a bit. And
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: also you think the Jets a five and twelve team,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: a lot of garbage time, some prevent defense going on
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: right there, that's helping his numbers out. You take that
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: into account. That's just relating to box score analysis. But
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: what Brady is explaining gets you away from just looking
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: solely at numbers, and he's looking at you know, the
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: way aging as an NFL quarterback often plays out. I
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: think that's very important to consider, absolutely I do. And
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: that's the other thing. You remember when Tom Brady, you know,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: you want a Super Bowl. He's over forty years old.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: He had a lot of success after turning forty, and
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: at the time, the popular opinion was like, oh, you
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: can play into your mid forties now as an NFL quarterback,
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: it's all good. Look at Tom Brady he's doing He
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: just happens to be the goat, it doesn't mean it's
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: gonna be commonplace going forward. So I think that Tom
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Brady is much more the exception to the rule.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: He's not like the standard. He's not the norm.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: This idea that you're just going to play well into
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: your age forty two, age forty three, age forty five
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: season like Brady did, like good luck, especially depending on.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Your style of play.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: That's why I think Russell Wilson has struggled at times.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Russ was a magician. I called him Russell Copperfield. He
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: was awesome at extending plays, you know, feeling the rush,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: throwing moon balls. He really was a magician. And he's
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: not as athletic as he used to be. He doesn't
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: extend plays the same way he used to do, and
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: that's impacted his production. If you look at Aaron Rodgers,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: what made Rogers elite and really special when he was
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: in his prime, it was his ability to extend plays,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: work out side of structure, work outside the pocket, throw
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: off platform.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: He was mendus at that.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: He's not able to do that the same way now
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: that he's older, now that he's banged up a lot
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: more often. He had the Achilles injury. Also last year
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: was dealing with a hammy, a knee, an ankle. All
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: this stuff accumulates and all of a sudden, to Brady
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Papinga's point, you're not doing the same things outside of
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: the pocket. Maybe you are even subconsciously not looking downfield,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: and maybe you're looking at the oncoming rush. And maybe
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: this is getting close to sack number six hundred of
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: your career. That's a lot of wear and tear. So
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: I think there's absolutely something to what he's saying right there.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: That's gonna be an interesting season, I'll tell you that much.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: I'll also tell you the Rogers, the blatant attention seeking
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: and then the downplaying of the attention that is then
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: like cultivated, is ridiculous. The thing last week was so ridiculous.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: It was peak Rogers right there where he signs his
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: contract and he's clearly highlighting his wedding ring.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: It's on the table.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: He's almost doing like the the female you know, a
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: social media post like the ring is like.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Hey check it out.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Ah, He's almost doing that when he's signing his contract.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Rogers is not a stupid guy. He is not stupid
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: by any stretch. Sometimes he's too smart for his own good,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: not stupid. He knows that when his picture is being
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: taken while he's signing his contract, he knows that he's
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: going to be asked questions about the wedding ring he's wearing.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: And then when he's asked those questions, Hey, rogers, what's
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: up with the wedding ring?
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Are you married? Well, what's going on over are you married?
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: Are you married?
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Are you married?
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: He's like, Eh, yeah, I'm married a couple months ago.
• 30:01
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: It just downplay it, you know, like Joe Cool.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: It's like, bro, dude, what that's just such a jackass move.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it just is.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: It's like, it's one thing to seek attention that's not
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: fundamentally wrong.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Most of us do it. Most of us.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Will go on social media and be like, I just
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: ate a ham sandwich. Ah, look at me, I want attention.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Not fundamentally wrong. You might take it to the extreme
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: and then it becomes annoying, but not fundamentally wrong. But
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: it's annoying when you clearly.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Seek attention, get attention, and then.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Downplay it like I don't really want this attention that
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I clearly was seeking out in the first place.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: It's like bro how old is Roger's exactly this dude.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: It acts like he's forty one going on like eleven.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: He wears me.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Out, man, But I'll tell you what, when the season
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: rolls around. As annoying as Rogers has been this offseason,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: when the season rolls around, it will be more interesting
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: with him behind center. Would you rather have Mason Rudolph there?
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: He'd be more captivated, more interested, more compelled to call
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: in sports radio and get your take off on Mason Rudolph? Like, No,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Rogers is going to be much better for the league,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: much better for your interest level, good or bad. You
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: got an opinion on him. That's the thing. He wears
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: me out in the off season. But I'm not going
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: to act like we'd be better off without him.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: We're not.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: We're not we're better off with him this season. It's
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: just hard to stomach all the other stuff, like all
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: the off the field stuff he's I'll tell you what, Man,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: he has risen up the Jackass Power rankings for sure.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: It's hard to surpass that guy right now. Antonio Brown
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: has him beat. Hey, he's got him beat. When you're
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: accused of grabbing a security guards gun and just firing
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: it out.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Well, heh you got him beat, got him beat.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: But Rogers is rapidly ascending the Jackass Power rankings. He's
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: at bare minimum top five right now, easily after the offseason.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: He's had all right plenty to get to feel free
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: to check in Last Chance mallor Militia eight seven, seven
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: ninety nine on Fox. I see one of our good
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: friends is on hold. We'll get to him right around
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: the corner. Also, we'll see Coop has one last chance
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: to make a sterling argument about food slash pastries on
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: the way. I don't know why the hell you would
• 32:48
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• 32:50
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• 32:53
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• 33:06
  Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Radio. I'm probably knowing for Big
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Ben Mallard. Now, I think Lorena about like the intro music.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: I think about e Dog, who had a very brief
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: stripping career. As we found out on the program. It's
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: big a kind of weird song for your background.
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: Music, imagining all the songs estripper songs.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Now, well, because you played Voodoo from Godsmack, Yes, which
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: definitely sets a mood right there, if you're so inclined to,
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: you know, frolic around a little bit to the boom
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: boom boom, as you said, Lorena.
• 33:46
  Speaker 7: Right, yes, now this song might be interesting.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Too, very interesting that you're much more like herky jerky
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: I feel like with your movements.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know that this would work out
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: very well.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: A lot of metal stuff would not work out well
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: at all, not at all.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: But anyway, that's just me thinking out left.
• 34:04
  Speaker 8: I actually saw a dancer performer or or no to
• 34:11
  Speaker 8: tool before I was a fan, before I.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Was a fan of that. Oh that's what did it?
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: This tripper. My gosh, we just pieced this puzzle together.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: If not for this tripper, man, there would have been
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: hope for you, Coop House, that's exactly what digiton, man
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: oh Man, All right, let me go out to the
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: militia here. Mike the Leprechaun, our guy wants to check in. Mike,
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: you're on Fox Sports Radio.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: What's going on?
• 34:40
  Speaker 9: Good money, it's raining in Boxton in.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Case you care, I always care what's going on in Boston?
• 34:45
  Speaker 9: Mike Good, Well good. I changed my name last year too,
• 34:49
  Speaker 9: I became Mike the lepre There you go, Mohammad Ali, Yeah,
• 34:59
  Speaker 9: so he changes. That's a good one.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:02
  Speaker 9: Regarding women, I mean by Scott, he changes the doctor
• 35:06
  Speaker 9: birds shut up the birds of grief, my purkeys.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 35:12
  Speaker 9: Anyway, regarding women, I meant to women who are four
• 35:15
  Speaker 9: foot nine, preferably not named Lorena. They have read hair,
• 35:20
  Speaker 9: eighty four pounds, They like you two and Google dolls,
• 35:23
  Speaker 9: and they love going to the cheeks take factory.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, very descriptive, Mike, Yeah, I told you.
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: Do you hear the post small? An eighty five pound person?
• 35:34
  Speaker 8: Is?
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: That is pretty small? Mike, that's like, well he.
• 35:37
  Speaker 8: Said four nine, so that's probably like a proper way
• 35:40
  Speaker 8: for a four nine person.
• 35:41
  Speaker 9: But well, I'm six' one. I'm six foot one actually
• 35:44
  Speaker 9: in real life.
• 35:45
  Speaker 7: And you identify as a leprechaun, you have issues.
• 35:50
  Speaker 9: Loner, my god, all right, let me talk about Evers
• 35:56
  Speaker 9: Boston Boxton. Regarding Boxton sports, they traded away mer Well
• 36:01
  Speaker 9: Devon's was told on the on the plane going to
• 36:04
  Speaker 9: the next or whatever. They were outside. I think it
• 36:07
  Speaker 9: was Seattle. Anyway, the Boston has stitted away him, which
• 36:11
  Speaker 9: is good. Actually, they were in a six year row
• 36:14
  Speaker 9: winning streak march on Mookie Bets and Babe Rute so
• 36:20
  Speaker 9: very well. That's the history of Boxto sports. They shoot
• 36:23
  Speaker 9: themselves in the foot every time.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Well, at least they got more than just cash like
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: they got for Babe Ruth. You know, at least he
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: got some live bodies for Devers.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: That's good. That's a step in the right direction. I told,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I told, I'm just gonna hung up on him. Why
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Coop was that you had your phil Yeah, okay, fair enough, Yeah.
• 36:47
  Speaker 8: I know, I know we were gonna ask him the question.
• 36:49
  Speaker 8: I forgot about that, but I just.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, don't worry. He's just you know, no, that's okay.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: You're telling me.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: He's like cheesecake right where you had a piece, and
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: I can't go for seconds.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: It's too thick.
• 37:05
  Speaker 8: Back to the name change thing real quick. In my research,
• 37:08
  Speaker 8: I did find out something that was interesting that I
• 37:10
  Speaker 8: so the story from three years ago that I had
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: never seen before. Okay, apparently Travis Kelsey's like family name,
• 37:18
  Speaker 8: yes is Kelse. Yeah, yeah, I did not know that.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Someone told me that. I was like, no, what.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: And I think they talked about it on their podcasts
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: yeah before, and it's like they just rolled with it.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Really that Okay, I had no idea either, but yeah,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: someone told me that, like, yeah, you realize that's not
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: how you pronounce it correctly, right, And I'm like, no,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: they wanted to have just rolled with something that's wrong.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Why would they do that and come to find out
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: I think that's exactly what they did. Yeah, that's pretty wild. Yeah,
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: and yeah we get the Mohammad Ali thing. We appreciate
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Mike the Leprechaun junior.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: For pointing that out. Think it's just a joke. I
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: don't think it's a junior.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: But yeah, we're not talking just about the name change,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: like you know, like Kareem abdul.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Jabbar or whatever.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: We're talking about the pronunciation changing or adding the senior
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: junior the second. Sometimes they'll do that, they'll add the
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: second to the last name or the full name. Yeah, okay, Coop,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: So we've got a minute left.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: And I give you the floor.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: I give you the floor either to dig your way
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: out or dig deeper on Team Cheesecake versus Team pie.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: The floor is yours.
• 38:37
  Speaker 8: I just want to clarify that I love cheesecake. Cheesecake
• 38:40
  Speaker 8: is delicious, but you can only eat so much of it.
• 38:43
  Speaker 8: It's very rich pie you can have. I could eat
• 38:49
  Speaker 8: an entire pie. It's so good and it's not overwhelming.
• 38:54
  Speaker 8: And like I said earlier, there's just more variety of pie.
• 38:58
  Speaker 8: If you feel like you want some things sweet and tart,
• 39:01
  Speaker 8: you can have key lime. If you want just something
• 39:03
  Speaker 8: like smooth and creamy, you can go banana cream. If
• 39:05
  Speaker 8: you want something like hearty and and you know rich,
• 39:09
  Speaker 8: you can go with the apple. Or if you if
• 39:11
  Speaker 8: you want a little bit of texture on there, you
• 39:13
  Speaker 8: can go Dutch apple.
• 39:15
  Speaker 7: You know it's it's it's just so much cheesecake.
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: We will reconvene and pick up where we left off
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: here