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Episode 10: Why Some Comic Cons Are Dying (And a Wild Theory About Ai Saving Them) · CONversations with Coffee

• KENT: What up, Liz? How you doing? You you're all like, you look like a deer British Liz: I am very well Kent. KENT: in the head, like you're big eyes looking up. British Liz: Yeah. KENT: my gosh, it's Tuesday already. I thought today was Monday. I did, I did. I yeah, British Liz: did you? Well you got back from your trip yesterday? KENT: and that now that's that's the problem about traveling on a Monday coming home. You think it's Sunday, and then you get home and you wake up and it's Tuesday. I was like, I had to. Yeah, that no, British Liz: Time to take out the trash, right? KENT: that's that's Friday mornings, but yeah, wow. Happy Tuesday, Liz. I kind of got I got my Vente British Liz: Well, happy Tuesday to you. KENT: right there, my 20 ounces of coffee. I I see I changed British Liz: And I've got KENT: up the mug. It's not a red one, it's the Vente20 Starbucks. Yeah, yeah. football. British Liz: Yes, I d I do see that, but do you see mine? Do you see mine? It is very apropos. KENT: my are you doing are you are you doing the football because of Ted Lasso or because of the World Cup? In our world? British Liz: Because currently in our world in our world it is World Cup time. So so KENT: ha ha British Liz: I've been watching. I don't really KENT: You know, somebody asked me if I was watching it and I was like, Yeah, if it's on T V and like if I'm sitting at the bar and it's playing, I'll watch it and stuff. I've heard some of the matches. I know British Liz: Mm-hmm. KENT: USA is in it still. I heard the team to watch is Japan because they beat Spain British Liz: Okay. KENT: and Spain was supposed to be the favor. So yeah. British Liz: Yes, they are they are strategists, the Japanese excuse me. KENT: Japanese. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. So yeah. so I am drinking my light roast Star Wars from the goat. I I have that. I British Liz: that's right, you're still on there. KENT: s yeah, I still am on that. it was so good. And of course I I got a bag with the beans, so I gotta blend it up. So, you know, I'll blend up a little bit at a time and drink it, save the beans. So I'm halfway through the bag right now, so can't talk about any other coffee except the Fainting Goat Star Wars edition. British Liz: See, and I don't know I don't know if that means you're drinking a lot or a little. KENT: What do you mean? British Liz: I mean I half a bag in a week, I don't know if that's a lot. KENT: for me, that's not a lot. I'd probably go through two or three cups a day. British Liz: Well we we are tea drinkers in the house, but somebody got themselves a Kurig so has been drinking coffee more than he used to. KENT: nice, nice, nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I and again I'm doing it bulletproof style too. So, you know, pour the coffee in, a spoonful of coconut coconut oil, throw it British Liz: yeah, you said that sweetens it. KENT: in the blender and a little stevia. I'm good to go. British Liz: In the blender. You did say that, didn't you? KENT: And yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I got one of those bullets, so you know, fill it with coffee, fill it with coconut oil, little stevieps, and then there it goes, and that's your bullet coffee. No, you know, no you're not using dairy and all the other additives and stuff like that, and you're getting the right amount of fats that you need, so British Liz: Hey, Derry is our friend. KENT: I don't I mean we can go down a rabbit hole on that one, and we can go down a rabbit hole on dirt. British Liz: What is life without cheese? KENT: See, growing up, I grew up on the farm, so we had the cow. So, you know, and I remember as a kid grabbing the big glass mayonnaise jar and going out British Liz: I thought you were gonna say grabbing something else. KENT: No, we had a glass jar, a mayonnaise jar. Like they used to be like glass jars of mayonnaise and they were big and you know, just going into the vat and just scooping the jar in there and just filling it with real milk from the cows 'cause they were milked and and British Liz: That sounds marvellous. KENT: then the you know, you'd have to wipe off the cream on the side of the jar and put the lid on and then you go and take it back to the house and you had real milk, like British Liz: That sounds wonderful. KENT: All right, I'm gonna ask our one subscriber, what British Liz: Ha ha ha. KENT: do they like dairy? Is dairy good for you? What is your census out there? Because here's the thing. When we grew up, there was just milk. There wasn't I mean milk was whole milk. It wasn't two percent, one percent, nonfat. There wasn't that wasn't available our age. It was just British Liz: Yeah, that wasn't available. It was it was milk. Yeah. KENT: milk. Milk does your body good. And it was just milk. Then there was, you know, two percent and one percent, and then we gotta have non fat. And now we got what? Soy, almond, oat milk, w British Liz: Coconut. KENT: coconut milk. Like how and then on top of that, you got all your flavored milks. Coffee mates and you know, your all your coffee mates. You know, you got the caramels and the pumpkin British Liz: all of those, yeah. Actually, this is a good question. KENT: you got your pumpkin spice and your peppermint patty and you got all these other additives that they've British Liz: But did you did KENT: added. British Liz: did you have half and half when you were a kid? What was there half and half? KENT: No. That was that was just it was just whole cream. It was just cr cream. Creamer. British Liz: Yeah, okay. So th they invented it since what, the seventies? KENT: How well how does it stay in that little plastic th thing and not? Yeah, right. They're miniature cows. No, no. British Liz: They have special cows. KENT: That little the little plastic thing, you know, that you get and you peel and you pour the creamer in. Like, how does it stay outside of the refrigerator and not go bad? And how can it sit out British Liz: Some of them do. KENT: for well, some of them do, but I mean they sit outside. Like, come on. There's so many ch We're gonna again, you're starting a rabbit hole. Like we can go down a rabbit hole on all these these byproducts. Like, sorry, Liz, I'm old school. British Liz: Okay, no. KENT: I remember when there were like six aisles in the grocery store, not twenty. You know? And the bread was just like there was wonder bread and then whole wheat bread, and that was it. Like there wasn't like seven grains and all these other no, it was We grew up in different times. Everything came from the farm and gosh. British Liz: We we did and we're and we're so old. KENT: We are well, I mean, you grew up with Moses, so British Liz: Hey, Moses didn't ever live in England, to my knowledge. KENT: no. No, no, he just parted the season and it was like, there's England. British Liz: Okay, enough stupid chit chat as opposed to no, how about enough enough stupid KENT: No, you we don't have British Liz: chit chat on that subject. Let's go on to other stupid chit chat. KENT: Well, you brought up the dairy part. I was just like, we could go down a rabbit hole. Like our listener probably inj is enjoying this stupid shitter jatter, because like they probably haven't had this much laughter for a while and now they're listening to us and they're like, my god, these two are a bunch of clowns. You know. British Liz: Yeah, or else they're not laughing and they just switched off, which is also an option. KENT: There you go. Hey, you know what? That's what I love about podcasts. Like you don't have to sit through the whole thing. You can, you know, you can speed it up to one point five or two speed. You can two X the speed. yeah, you can speed it up. The other British Liz: Can you? I didn't know you could do that. KENT: thing is just shut it off and g go on to another episode or British Liz: Yeah. KENT: find somebody else that's doing a podcast, you know, where British Liz: Go watch the World Cup. KENT: Yeah, yeah, or watch the World Cup. But like, you know, with the radio, we didn't get to do that, did we? we're back here. We're back British Liz: were we back on the seventies and eighties again? KENT: See, the the listeners today, they they don't like it. Bloop, there's another song. Pick their favorite song. I don't like that song. Click, click, click. They can put on what they want. We didn't get that choice. We're we literally Do you remember sitting there with your fingers on the play and the record button, waiting for the radio guy to play your song that you wanted to record for your boyfriend or anything like that? Or I can't wait. All right. We're well, listeners, we're gonna listen to Billy Joel, blah, blah, blah, you know, running down the house. Ready? And you had to. Click and hit the buttons super fast just so that it would start the tape recording so you didn't miss the song. And then you had to wait. yeah. so you just recorded British Liz: I did that I did that with MTV, with videoing. KENT: it to the video. See, like I was just and you have to hit the buttons that British Liz: yeah, yeah. KENT: and then you had to wait till the end of the song and then you had to stop it right before the DJ got back on because you didn't want it to mess up the tape or anything like that. British Liz: And then if you had to tape over it, there'd be a s little s nanosecond KENT: yeah. British Liz: of something else. KENT: Yep, yep, yep, yep. See, w now they don't even have to do that. They just want their song they're like, Apple Apple store, I want you know, Devil in the Red Dress, you know, or whatever song it is. British Liz: Yeah, 'cause you it's not like you could go out and actually buy a single. 'Cause I well, you could, but no, I mean you I couldn't afford that. I KENT: You c there's still some source. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's record You can still get vinyls. British Liz: couldn't afford to go buy singles of all the songs I like. KENT: they didn't have s well you had to buy the whole s cassette for the record and then British Liz: No, we're t we're I'm talking forty fives. KENT: wow, you're going way back there with Moses again. Forty fives. British Liz: Well that's what I call a single. A single is the the record. KENT: A single is 45 because it was a single on one side and a single on the other side, and it was a smaller record, not like the vinyl, it was a smaller record. I have some British Liz: Yeah. KENT: of those. I should pull those out and just pull them up and show them to people, like, that are watching the video of this, because they'd be like, What is that? Yeah, I mean there's stuff's coming back. Like you think it's gone, it's coming back. Like Jorts. Jorts is now a thing. British Liz: What is that? KENT: Jean shorts. Jorts. British Liz: Daisy Jukes. KENT: No, no, not Daisy Dukes. Men are wearing jean shorts again. And it's like a fashionable thing. I'm like, I don't British Liz: How short? How short? KENT: think it looks well, you know, they're above their knees and stuff like that, but they got them cuffed and rolled up. And I'm like, do you really look at yourself in the mirror? Cause all right, men. Men, all right, if our one subscriber is a man, listen up. Listen up. You do not look attractive in jean shorts, especially cuffed or rolled up or anything like that. I'm sorry. It's not attractive. British Liz: What if they what if they wax their legs? KENT: It's still not attractive. Like British Liz: Ha ha KENT: jeans shorts on men is not attractive. I don't care who created it. If they say it's a fashion, it is not. Any woman that can that is listening or any ladies or any anybody that agrees with me on this, please post that in the comments below because I'm telling you, it is not attractive. British Liz: Well, the Kent has spoken. KENT: I mean now Daisy Dukes, okay, the those look good on the women. I'm just saying, like some women pull it off and look great. Not all. Most. But again, dress for comfort. Dress fashionable. I mean, see, you you got me on a whole rabbit, you're going right down a rabbit hole. I'm gonna get I'm gonna get backlash on this, and that's okay. I I British Liz: Hey, I didn't say anything. KENT: don't care. But Jorts. I I was telling that to a friend the other day. What what's shorts? I'm like, it's jean shorts. Shorts. The kids have shortened it. But it's like, even when I was a kid, I didn't want to wear jean shorts because I was like, man, it was it it my parents were so poor. You know, my mom was like, all right, we'll just cut the legs off the jeans. You put a hole in them, all right, sh. And then she makes shorts and British Liz: I was KENT: and I would sit there and I'm like, they're just as hot. It's just like wearing jeans. It just has a little more ventilation. That's all. British Liz: You know, I was at the store the other day with my daughter. She was going on a trip, wanted to buy some jeans. I think we were at Target or somewhere, KENT: Mm-hmm. British Liz: and they had jeans that had been sliced off. They were shorts. They'd just been cut through, no hem, just frayed, all of that. And they wanted sixty five dollars for them. KENT: Why don't you just go buy a pair of forty dollar jeans and just cut them off and save yourself twenty dollars? Yeah. British Liz: That's what I was thinking. It was just ridiculous. I mean, they weren't even I mean, not even finished. It was just KENT: Mm-hmm. British Liz: yeah. KENT: See, I'm telling you, old stuff that we grew up with is now on a comeback. Crazy. British Liz: Not always a not always the best idea according to you. KENT: machine shorts on men is n dude. I'm telling you. British Liz: No, if they I think if they're almost to the knee almost to the knee. KENT: There it it doesn't mat it doesn't mat they still do jean shorts do not look good on any man. Straight, not straight, I don't care. Jean shorts. British Liz: if no, what if they're what if they're kind of cargo pants in Denim? Those shorts don't look good? KENT: Den denim? No. Denna jeans that are shorts on men do not look good. Like cargo pants, that's different because it's a different material. Jeans do not look good, shorts on men. British Liz: have to look up, you know, Henry Cavill in jean shorts and see how he looks. KENT: Go ahead and and you will not find a picture of Henry wearing jean shorts. No. It's not no, that is who See you you got me all flustered on this. Like who you know, there are th you know, those those people are like, if there's one thing that you could delete that was created. You know, and people are, you know, the atomic bomb or blah blah blah, you know, little things like that. I'd be like, get rid of British Liz: Wainsweld. KENT: Wayne's okay, yours is Wayne's War. Mine would be Gene Shorts. Whoever created that, British Liz: Ha ha KENT: let's just delete that from history and it never existed and is never brought up again. How's that? British Liz: Okay, so I can see you don't feel strongly about this at all. KENT: You know what Liz? From now on, every time I see s a guy wearing jean shirts, I'm gonna take a picture and text it to you. And I'm British Liz: Please do, please do. KENT: gonna be like, is this look attractive? British Liz: And then you'll get decked by some guy that thinks you're being creepy. KENT: Nope. nope, they won't even see you nope, won't even see it. but I'm just gonna be like click Nope. Because I'm gonna be so far away, like, my gosh, look at that dude over there. Click. Here Liz, here's a picture for you. And British Liz: my my my hubby's gonna look at my phone and go, what the heck? KENT: There you go. There you go. my gosh. Anyways. How British Liz: Yes, so KENT: was how was your weekend? British Liz: mine was very quiet, just at home, not doing anything. Apparently. Yeah KENT: Taking lots of naps? Yes, apparently. lots of naps. Did you do any gardening? British Liz: Actually I didn't. I was KENT: No. British Liz: I was kind of inert this weekend. I didn't really do KENT: Okay, okay. British Liz: much of anything. but you were in Florida. KENT: Well, I mean, I was. I was in Palm Beach. West Palm Beach. Yeah, it was it was it was good. I mean we had a little bit of rain, lots of sun. It was humid. I mean, a lot of times when I go to a show, I bring my jeans to wear 'cause the cons are cold and stuff like that. British Liz: Not your jean shorts. KENT: Not my jean shorts, long jeans, pants, pants, jean pants. this time I actually brought my cargo pants, like khakis, just because they're thinner and the material. I wore those the whole time because it was hot. And I was like, there's no way I wouldn't even put the jeans on. You'd they'd stick to you like glue. Yeah, British Liz: Yeah, yeah. KENT: it was that humid. But it was British Liz: So which which con was it again? KENT: Otaku Fest. Otaku. British Liz: Is that's anime? Is that an anime one? Mm-hmm. KENT: Yeah, it was an anime fest. Yeah. Yeah, it was good. they had a lot of voice actors from Attack on Titans and Avatar and Genjin Impact and Demon Slayer. I was with a voice actor from some video games from Resident Evil and Street Fighter, Eva La Dare. was who I was with. So yeah, it was it was good. She hasn't she hadn't done a Comic Con since twenty ten. British Liz: Really? Was she busy then 'cause people hadn't seen her? KENT: Yeah, yeah. So she was pretty yeah, she was pretty busy, you know, just because a lot of Resident Evil fans out there, so Yeah. Well, British Liz: Yeah, all those older folks know. KENT: they're kid there's a lot of young kids that play Resident Evil. And you know, there's British Liz: Mm-hmm. KENT: I don't know, six or seven. I did I forgot to ask. Like people are like, I played four, I played five, I played six. I was holy cow, how many Resident Evils? Games are out there. There's a lot, you know. So yeah, it was it was good. the the one, all right, you know I don't do panels. I don't sit through panels, even though I go with the talent to go to the panel, that's my time to go get autographs that I need to get, or go get lunch, or take a restroom break or whatever. they actually had a panel for voice actors. there was a couple of actor voice actors that were on the panel with them, and so there were three of them, and they sat on stage, and people could line up and do their voice work to them and get critiqued on it and or help because British Liz: Really? KENT: these were people that are like, you know, I want to be a voice actor. what do I need to do? And so these were people that were ready, had a script or a line, and so the voice actors could see what they were reading. and then the person would do it and then they'd tell what they were auditioning for, or what they thought that roll that voice was for and stuff like that. And the three actors would take the time to critique, like, I go a little bit higher here. Don't think about it, just read. Yeah, British Liz: That is fantastic. KENT: I I really I enjoyed the panel because there was Value given the actor voice actors liked it because they didn't just have to sit there and talk about their movies or shows or how they became a voice actor and and you know just the mundane stuff that they always talk about. but this was helping the per the attendees learn how to be a voice actor. And it was a I I was like kudos to a Taku Khan you know. taco fest for doing that. yeah. British Liz: This that's w what a great idea. KENT: And you know who the host was? Patty. Our friend Patty. Yeah, British Liz: Polly, our friend Patty. KENT: yeah. Our friend Patty was there. he was it was his was part of his idea or creation because he does that show quite often and stuff like that. So you see there's a picture of me and Patty right there. Yeah, yeah. British Liz: I haven't seen him in a while. KENT: Yeah. So and there's the voice actors in the background. So yeah, Patty came he came up with that idea you know, for a panel. and they've been doing it at that show. So I was like, that is really awesome. British Liz: We we could actually talk about ideas for activities that cons have done. KENT: Yeah. British Liz: That I mean we had we kind of had another thing lined up, but actually I find that very interesting, you know, that there are panels KENT: Mm-hmm. British Liz: and those are often extremely interesting and fun and you hear all kinds of great stuff. But sometimes you'll actually have something off the beaten path like that, which I is so great, and I feel like it gives the attendees a really wonderful experience. And in fact, it's even called, KENT: Experience. Yeah. Well they can walk away. British Liz: yeah, I mean, like a this year anyway, there's been a lot of Lord of the Rings stuff. KENT: Sure. British Liz: And so one of the experiences you can purchase is breakfast or second breakfast with the Hobbits. That's great. That's KENT: Yeah, yeah. Scott and my br my twin Sean Gunn, they do coffee because of Gilmore girls. Scott British Liz: Mm. KENT: Patterson, Sean Gunn, they do you can purchase tickets at different shows to have coffee with them because you know, on the Gilmar girls they drank coffee and things like that. So I'm like, that's pretty cool. British Liz: Yeah. And I think that's wonderful. And then one of the one of the fun things that I saw at OneCon was they had Twilight actors KENT: Mm-hmm. British Liz: and they had them play a baseball game with attendees. Attendees KENT: Cool. Cool. British Liz: could buy a ticket to be on the team with Peter Faccinelli or Callan Lutz. And it was a blast. It was absolute blast. And they got real you know, face time, interaction time, and then KENT: Yeah, 'cause they're playing what, did they play all nine innings with them or just like four or five innings? British Liz: no, it it there were, you know, four strikes and maybe someone was out. It was it was rather informal. KENT: Okay. British Liz: But it was an absolute blast, a blast to watch and KENT: Yeah. There are some shows that can do that and pull that off and British Liz: Yeah. And I mean it was just an absolutely magical time. KENT: I like those because it gives the fans a different experience. They get some one-on-one time with the talent and stuff like that. But then it it also gives the talents something new and different versus British Liz: Yeah. KENT: the humdrum of just an autograph, a selfie at the table, people walking up to them, asking the same questions and stuff. Yeah. Well, who was British Liz: I mean I mean that's that's fun, but if you've got something v KENT: it? Somebody one of them. They had it where you could go on go-karts and race the the celebrities. That that now that would be fun. I'm like, you know, all right, I'm gonna take off and then I'm gonna I'd bump, you know, bump them like around British Liz: Yeah. KENT: the corner, like, uh-huh, I knock so-and-so in the corner. Like British Liz: That sounds like so much fun. Who who did that? KENT: Yeah, yeah. So any con promoters out there listening, you know, Liz and I can give you some tips or ideas, British Liz: Ha ha ha. KENT: you know, of of things you I I've got ideas up here that I've shared with my agent and she's used at shows. yeah. Well, British Liz: And you you have some monster ideas, the ones you've shared with me. KENT: again, nowadays Everybody's done the standing in line. Everybody's done the autographs and the selfies. You have to you you need or I think the audience is looking for more interaction. That's why so here here like the what's the banana team, the baseball team? British Liz: Banana ball? No. KENT: No, no, no. man. See? Now you got me thinking about it. the the banana. my gosh. come on. You know it, Liz. Banana baseball. S baseball? Yeah. The British Liz: No idea. KENT: Savannah Bananas. British Liz: Yes, I still have no idea. KENT: Okay, they're not a pro team. They're not a pro team at all. Savannah Bananas are not a pro team, but they have taken the baseball arena by storm. Like they were laughed at when they first started, and the owner, he's got a story up. I should find him and bring him on here because that would just basically he has taken a team. Several teams and made it like the Harlem Globetrotters for baseball. That is how I see it. He's made it fun, he's made it interactive, they do funny and quirky stuff, British Liz: But highly skilled. KENT: highly skilled professional baseball players and things like that. But they've made it into a show, into an experience, and you bring your family and you do stuff. And I was like, see, that's why Savannah Bananas are just taking the baseball. seen by storm and they're growing by leaps and bounds. And kudos to you guys, man. Like, my gosh, like that is crazy. but yeah, yeah, they are they are amazing. And I mean, there are people I was on the plane that people were wearing the yellow jerseys and stuff like that, and they will literally sell out a baseball British Liz: Yeah, I have not heard of those. KENT: stadium. British Liz: Really? KENT: Yeah, Google Savannah Bananas. They are okay, but when you get off, I British Liz: I won't write the second, but I will look KENT: want you to. Yeah, they are taking it by storms. They sell tickets. But I was watching one of the games and I was like, they're like the Harlem Globetrotters, but for baseball. And somebody created that. And I was like, kudos. Kudos on them. I don't even know how we got off on it's just the experience for the fans. So, you know, if comic cons could do that. British Liz: Yeah, 'cause I mean I mean it there are there are people that go to a lot of cons, KENT: yeah. British Liz: either working or just attending. KENT: There are a lot of people that a tend that go to several comic cons. British Liz: Yeah, and they you know, there comes a time where you've stood in line for so many people, so often that perhaps, yes, as you say, you you might be looking at for more KENT: Create more interactive panels. Create more interactive like doing the coffee or having British Liz: Yeah, just having Yes, I mean that that idea of the voice acting KENT: breakfast or doing the voice acting. my gosh. British Liz: Yeah, and like Michael Rosenbaum and Tom Welling do Smallville Nights, which is KENT: Yep, they do the podcast. British Liz: well they smallville nights is a con event, a paid event in the evenings, and that's that's KENT: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, where they read the script. British Liz: and it's more more intimate. trouble is with a lot of those is they are paying events, you know, they and they do cost a lot. KENT: But you get more quality time with with the talent. British Liz: Yeah. KENT: I mean an hour with Michael Rosenbaum and Tom Welling. Okay. I'd I'd pay British Liz: Yeah. with KENT: sixty bucks for that. British Liz: it's more than that. KENT: Okay, but anyways. British Liz: But it would yeah, it would be nice during panel time to have, you know, a free experience that's really interactive. KENT: You wanna know why Michael Rooker's panel is always full? He never British Liz: Fight. KENT: sits on stage. Michael? Michael Rooker. British Liz: 'cause he's all running up and down. KENT: Michael Rooker runs up and down all over the place. And I've worked with him several times. And I will tell you, his panels are booked to the rim. Like standing room only. Why? Because one, he does it the panel by himself. That's just Michael. He can't sit still. Two, he goes around and talks with everybody. you know, and and he and he does it in a loving, quirky way. Like if he doesn't like your answer, he's like, okay, next, like he doesn't stick around like, or that's a dumb question. You know, he just like, okay, next, like, you know, and he literally he'll do his own panel. And he's up on stage walking back and forth, but then he gets down in the audience and he literally will go all the way to the back of the room, in the middle of the British Liz: Love it. KENT: room. He'll like go through the aisles of people. I watch your knees. Move, move, move, move, move. okay. And he'll talk with people. He'll sit on their lap. He just makes it so much fun and interaction that like British Liz: Yes. KENT: people hear that he's got a panel and they flop like people are lined up an hour before to get into his panel. British Liz: Yeah, I love it. I just love when it's so KENT: And w Yeah. British Liz: fun, you're just howling with laughter at some of these things. KENT: yeah. British Liz: have you ever seen Twisted Tunes? KENT: Yeah, my gosh, that's funny. my gosh. They did that in Knoxville one time. And I got British Liz: did they? KENT: them they sang the the song. The country song. British Liz: Which KENT: tw not it wasn't Twisted Tunes. That was Rob Paulson and Maurice did the Animaniacs Round the World song. my gosh, that British Liz: yes, that is just insane. KENT: Yeah, yeah. No, I was at a panel, Ross Marquis and a couple of other ones did the twisted tunes. Jeff Cannini, one of the agents, was on there. Like it was crazy. I was like, my gosh. British Liz: Yeah, 'cause they'll they'll they'll say, you know like the one I saw was the Lion King. And it was they and they're saying s say do KENT: Yeah, yeah. But they do it in their voices or they'll make up voices and stuff. British Liz: do what's the evil uncle? What's his name? Scar. So Jim Cummings, do KENT: Ska score. British Liz: do scar as Winnie the Pooh. KENT: yeah. British Liz: So he'd say, I'm watching you. KENT: more. British Liz: And it was so menacing, it was wonderful. But it was so funny and just yeah. KENT: Yeah, see those are fun. They're interactive. They're different. You you don't get that in a panel. The panel is usually questions and them telling you about what they're doing. Which is great. Yes. But British Liz: Which which is wonderful in its own way. But if you've if you've been to many, many, you do hear the same questions. So that's yeah, I just I love something a little bit different. And if KENT: There you go. British Liz: it's free, all the better. KENT: Free, it's for me. That's my quote. That's my motto. If it's British Liz: Ha ha KENT: free, it's for me. Yeah. British Liz: But a a thought for our listener i is you know, for the one listener, KENT: Okay. For the one listener listening right now? Yeah. British Liz: is you know, check out the different events. I mean, there are different evening events, after parties that sometimes celebrities will go to these events, sometimes there's concerts. what was it s at this the six five concert last year? I mean KENT: yeah, the there's one where Yeah, yeah. British Liz: at the six five Voices Against CancerCon that I did a couple of weeks ago. KENT: Yeah. British Liz: Tom Kenny, the voice of Sponge Dog Bob, did an evening concert as part of the benefit. KENT: Hm. British Liz: And it was it was a blast. A lot of big band classics and just really, really, really fun. But check on the con website and have a look and see what's going on in the evenings. see w what the panels are. KENT: Yeah. Sometimes they have raves or d DJ offs. I've I've I've had a couple of actors where both of them were DJs and they had a battle off on DJing and stuff. That was fun. yeah. British Liz: that's funny. But Yeah, so yeah, look up see what's what's being offered and KENT: Yeah. British Liz: you know, try and go to some of those extra events. at even like at San Diego, there's a ton of different events in the evenings. Isn't that various you know yeah. KENT: San Diego Comic Con? There's my friend, my dear friend April. She sent British Liz: April. KENT: me a text, she's like, what's a crawl? And I go, what do you mean? And she goes, There's this Power Ranger crawl. British Liz: What is that? KENT: you've never heard of a pub crawl? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But Power Ranger pub crawl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. British Liz: a pub crawl. A power ra so it's a a Power Ranger pub crawl. I feel like I need to go on that. KENT: Yeah, it's at San Diego Comic Con. So I I had it one I had to explain what a pub crawl was. Going from bar to bar to bar to bar to bar. She is. She's a sweetheart of it. British Liz: She's so sweet. KENT: I'm like, sometimes you gotta educate people. They've never done that. So I mean, for one of my birthdays, we did a pub crawl for my birthday one year. And I had a hundred people. Well, I ran a group called All Things San Diego. It was a meetup group and I had over 14,000 members, but like 150 people showed up for my birthday. And so we did a pub crawl and five pubs. We have five pubs. I lasted to about four because everybody kept giving me shots and I I I had a British Liz: my goodness. KENT: boot. Somebody gave me a boot sh my gosh. It was like it was not good. We'll just stop there. But anyways, British Liz: Yeah. KENT: the they're doing a pub crawl for the Power Rangers. Which is funny because Walter Jones was at a taco fest this week, and I was like, Hey, are you going to San Diego Comic Con? He goes, Yeah, I'll be there. And I'm like, I know he is because I usually help him at one of the booths and stuff like that. But I was like, Did you hear about this Power Ranger pub crawl? He goes, We might have to stop in and surprise them. I was like, Okay, yes, we do. Can British Liz: Yeah. KENT: you imagine just some of the Power Rangers, the actual actors showing up for a pub crawl? Place would go crazy. British Liz: that does sound like fun. Because I've run into quite a few of them over the years and they are a fun bunch. KENT: Yep, yeah. yeah. can you I mean and it's Steve and Walter and Austin and my gosh, like br yeah. Yeah. British Liz: I wonder if any of the girls will go. The girls seem sensible. KENT: Karen Karen would probably go. Karen, she's the yellow power. She'd go. She's she's like, woo woo. She's cool. She's funny. British Liz: Ha. KENT: so you you had a couple of things that you wanted to bring up that I totally didn't think about. British Liz: Noticed a few times last year, a few times this year, that there have been cons that are not well attended. And I've been KENT: Why is that? British Liz: well, why is that? You know, it is there an oversaturation of cons? You know, are there too many too close together in too small a town? KENT: Mm. British Liz: Is it the economy? KENT: Mm. Or is it not being promoted very well? British Liz: That is also a question because you have people saying I had no idea this was going on in my town. KENT: Didn't even know about it. Yep. Yep. No, I I can say that because there was an a Comic Con here in San Diego that was heavily promoted, like billboards, newspapers, da da da. And I talked with the promoters because they're agents and they had the show and it was supposed to be at the fairgrounds, but we had sorry, Nashville. Did I say San Diego? well, all right. British Liz: Not San Diego, it was Nashville, right? Yeah. You did. Liv living in the past as usual. KENT: Living in the past, yes. So anyways, they had to move it from the fairgrounds to the mu music center downtown and they did it a great way and the thing is it was fully attended. It was maxed out. And then a month later there was another Comic-Con and it was a ghost town. British Liz: Yeah. KENT: And I feel that sometimes the promoters feel that the celebrities are gonna draw all the fans to the show, but it's also the promoters' job to promote it and get the attention of the people to know about it. So it's British Liz: Yes, yes. KENT: a it's a thin s edged sword. British Liz: Well, and then, you know, you've got to think about the celebrity guests that are invited. You know, who's gonna be a draw? You know, the the people at Otako Fest, Otako Fest are not gonna be the same people at at Fan Expo Chicago. You know, it's just it's gonna be a different crowd. KENT: Right. British Liz: And you sort of gotta know your crowd. And but then you've got the you've got the like the fan expos that have a a range of guests which will appear at many of their shows in a year. So right now they've got eight or nine Lord of the Rings actors at every show, which KENT: Sure. Sure. British Liz: is terrific. And I love that. but can every town sustain that many people who might be KENT: Well now see. British Liz: asking Asking a hundred dollars per autograph, and there's nine of them. KENT: Well and again supply and demand, but also where is the economy right now? British Liz: Yeah. KENT: You know, you gotta I I would put that in consideration because a tank of gas isn't two dollars and fifty cents, it's four dollars and fifty cents. And if you're in the state of California, it's seven dollars, you know. So British Liz: Mm-hmm. KENT: you know, people are having to spend more. I mean, look at groceries. What you could buy for a hundred dollars, you can't even buy for three hundred dollars now. And you know, it with the tariffs and the war going on and And just, you know, everybody's kinda tightening up on their pocketbook. You know, instead of get British Liz: Yeah. KENT: an autograph for you and one for me, it's more of who should get it. You know. British Liz: W we ha one of our one of our good friends was at a con this weekend and she was sitting with what one might call a nostalgia group of actors that KENT: Mm-hmm. Yeah. British Liz: had been in a show in the nineties and it was very popular show. But there were also a group of actors from a show that is currently very popular. KENT: Mm. British Liz: Those guys were swamped. The nostalgia group was not. I mean they did okay, but I mean KENT: Mm-hmm. British Liz: you gotta wonder the choices that are being made by those attendees. Is it KENT: Well, I would be going af and this is just me personally, I'd be going after the nostalgia people because they started it, they created it, they've been around for a long time, and they might not be around for a very long much longer. British Liz: Yeah, I s yeah. KENT: Unless they're a young a young actor or actress, like, you know, British Liz: Mm-hmm. KENT: I mean William Shatner is ninety five years old. All right. He's nostalgic. I would be going to get his autograph right now versus one of the Lord of the Rings guys. Why? He's ninety five. They're only in their British Liz: Yeah. KENT: forties, you know what I mean? So or higher. Well, it's some of British Liz: no. Some of them, yeah, most of them most of them are a good chunk higher. KENT: Well, okay, John Reese Davies is a older gentleman and he's yeah, he's nostalgic. But yeah, I mean he's not ninety-five though. So, British Liz: Yes, true, true. KENT: you know, go again. But s certain things happen out there in the world and people just pass away. So you don't know. You know, I mean there's some actors and actresses that have passed away in a young age and you're like, What happened? You know. I mean, last year we lost a couple of them. look at you thinking. The guy from Dawson's Creek passed away. Shannon Doherty. Yep. See? Young ones. British Liz: yeah, and Shannon Doherty was the year before that, yeah. Yeah. KENT: See. That's why you gotta live life for today. Cause you know what? Tomorrow might not be here. Now I'm getting all s philosoph. Yeah, well, you know. British Liz: Don't think that's the carpe diem, whatever, Caesar Day. KENT: I'm getting all philosophy on on on you over here, so British Liz: Yeah. KENT: So yeah, the the shows, you know, not being well attended. It's knowing your audience. Maybe, you know, how do I the one of the things that was brought up at the event I was at this week was how the actor or actress I was talking to said they feel that the shows are actually gonna grow. British Liz: Really? KENT: Because of AI. Think about that. British Liz: How's that? KENT: Because AI cannot re AI can replace them in image and voice, but can't replace them in person. British Liz: Right, right. KENT: So if they do if they use their likeness or their voice and stuff like that, yeah, that's a bad representation. However, The fans want to meet the actor or actress or voice actor. And the only way they can do that in person is at a Comic Con and that cannot be replaced by AI. British Liz: Yes, yes. That's interesting. KENT: So they felt that because of AI, the Comic Con shows will eventually grow because the fans will want that interaction. Because right now, a lot of times you go on your phone and you're looking at a something and you're like, huh. Is this real or was this made by AI? And then you gotta look, you know, that guy turned from a girl to a guy in the background. You're like, all right, that was AI. Like kind of British Liz: Yeah. KENT: but as it gets better, you're not gonna know the difference. But the only way you're gonna know stuff and hear it straight from the actor is by going to a Comic Con. British Liz: That's true. KENT: Yeah, see you didn't think about that one. But it was a British Liz: No, no I didn't. KENT: it was a good topic to talk about is you know because they were somebody approached them and said, what do you think of AI? And then that came out and I was like, Well, that's a different way of thinking about it, because British Liz: Yeah. KENT: AI can't give you that autograph. British Liz: That's true. Well I I feel I feel like a another factor KENT: Yeah. It's a personalized thing. British Liz: an another factor might be that actors are starting to come out the woodwork that we've never seen before and are proving to be KENT: Are you talking because of Nick Cage just did an autograph session and British Liz: Yeah. Yeah, Nicholas Cage and Kurt Russell was announced for Chicago, which KENT: Kurt Russell is coming for Chicago. Yep. Yeah. British Liz: is unbelievably huge. KENT: Well, I mean, everything changes. When you used to be a movie star and you were a T V star, that was the lane that you stayed in. Everybody actors from movies didn't jump into T V shows and vice versa. It didn't happen. But now they just wanna work. So they're in everything. British Liz: Yeah. Well yeah, I just think it's yeah, it's just interesting that you know, for a long time your your headliners would be William Shatner, you know, maybe people from Star Wars, that kind of thing. But now if and and and there were certain people like say Robert Downey Jr., you would only ever see him at San Diego if you were lucky. But now it feels like wow, if Kurt Russell and Nicolas Cage are coming, I mean are other towns you know, really s big, big names. Not not nostalgia. KENT: A lot of them have already been to Comic Cons. British Liz: Sorry? KENT: A lot of the big names have already been to Comic Cons. The Chris Hemsworth, the Chris Evans, and all the Chrises. All the Ace. Ace. British Liz: Well I know you have Chris Chris Re Evans, but where did you get your Where did you get Chris Evans autographed I mean I know it's on your shield but where? KENT: Ace Comic Con. British Liz: Was that KENT: Northeast. I forget which state it was, but yeah. Yeah, but you have big names that I mean Carl Urban's signed at you know, he's in everything right now. And it's like British Liz: Yes. KENT: like I was just watching the Chronicles of Riddick and he's in it. And I was like, my gosh, British Liz: Is he really? KENT: yes, and I was like, my gosh, and he's at Comic Con signing, like I saw him in Denver and and the we I saw him in Seattle and like we had conversation. It's like my gosh, like he's he's a big name actor. He's at Comic Cons. You know. And he was in British Liz: Yeah. KENT: the boys and stuff like that. But anyways, you know, I I I I feel some of the ones that you haven't like the Kurt Russell's, yeah. But you know, a lot of the big names are at the they're already there. already. You know? Uh Robert British Liz: Yeah. KENT: Downey Jr.'s I don't ever see that happening because I British Liz: No. KENT: know what he's asking for. I guarantee it. And there was one that was like, it's close to happening, but it didn't. British Liz: Well, and in order to reach astronomical guarantees they have to charge KENT: Mm-hmm. British Liz: astronomical prices. But you know, KENT: Bingo. British Liz: I when the megacon where they had it was the nine Lord of the Rings actors, the photo op was was a grand. So approximately a thousand dollars to get that photo up. And KENT: But trying to round them all up to get a photo with them, like yeah, I'll pay the a thousand dollars to do that because you get British Liz: Well but but but KENT: all of them in one area. British Liz: What and it's amazing, it's a chunk of change, but the line went on for two hours. KENT: Yeah, 'cause everybody imagine how long you'd have to stand in line to just do a selfie with each one of Like, it would take you all four days. So and you wouldn't see anything else but lines. And trying to get a picture and an autograph with them, you know. British Liz: Yeah. But but but what I'm saying is in terms of the economy, people are finding that thousand dollars that you know, did they KENT: It's there. British Liz: save for it? They put it on a credit card, you know, everyone has a second mortgage, you know. KENT: You know what? You can say that, but people go to Disneyland all the time. British Liz: That's true. KENT: Or Disney World, and that's a dude, a family of four is a thousand dollars a day or more. I mean, British Liz: Yes, yes. KENT: just the park, the food, parking, transportation to get there, like and then and British Liz: Yeah. KENT: then your hotel stay is a couple hundred dollars a night. So British Liz: That's that's true. I mean it must be a priority thing. You know, and KENT: There you go. Set your priorities. You again, British Liz: Yeah. I didn't even think of that. KENT: some people's Comic Cons is somebody's Disney World experience. That's what it comes down to. British Liz: Get your picture taken with Cinderella or Carl Urban. KENT: Yeah, there you go. Yeah, there you go. I like that. Bloody hell. British Liz: Yeah. KENT: my gosh. So what was the other thing that was that what ye I was trying to think of what we had talked about earlier, but was it just those two things? British Liz: Yes, yes. you know, the I g I guess one c KENT: you know what? British Liz: yes. KENT: So we had brought that up and I was at a Comic Con. And I'm gonna say this again because at this Comic-Con, people would come up to the table and they didn't have cash. you don't take cash. British Liz: Having waited in line, KENT: You don't and at that at at Otaku Fest, they moved it from Miami to West Palm Beach. That building had Terrible, terrible, terrible internet. Wi-Fi, internet, sales service. I was texting somebody to ask a question and it took like 30 minutes for that text to go through to that person. so you know, card readers were not working. It was not good. So most of the talent was like, Yeah, we'll take cash and cash only. And I'm like, my gosh, like and then I would ask people, hey, is this your first comic con? Yeah. I'm like, my gosh, I wish you would listen to our podcast because you would know cash is king. And then, here's the other problem that happened. Guess what it was? They'd go to get cash from the British Liz: From the ATM. It ran out, it broke, it burst into flames. KENT: And guess what happened? It ran out. It ran out. There's no money in it. Why? Because everybody was getting cash. And they sucked that ATM dry. Now, if I was if I owned one of those ATM, I'd have somebody go check that sucker every two hours. Like, go back there and fill that sucker up. Because the fees, my God. Mm-hmm. British Liz: Well, you often see a little man back there just refilling it. It's crazy. KENT: Well, yeah, because they're making like ten dollar fees for every time somebody takes money up. British Liz: Is is it that much? KENT: yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. That's why I always say cash is king, because if you use a credit card or any card, you're gonna get a processing British Liz: Gonna be fees. KENT: fee and then a tax fee or processing fee or whatever it is. There's gonna be fee on fee. So that ten dollar, you know, that twenty dollar autograph or forty dollar autograph is forty-six dollars and change. Da, you know, that's what I'm like, and then you do that, and if you do that too. Yeah. Yeah. But British Liz: Yeah, and and get it from your get it from your bank where you won't get charged fees and you'll just have it. KENT: yeah. And again, you know, you get two autographs and say the fee is six dollars each. That's twelve dollars. That could have been your lunch. You know, but again, cash is king. Please, if it you learn anything from our podcast, cash it king, because you you will be able to get what you want and you won't be like, I don't have any British Liz: Yes. Bring bring bring the bills. KENT: money. Yeah. and then of course the the people that would come up multiple times a day. Love them. Love them. But just know that just because there's no lines doesn't mean you got to keep coming up and Asking different questions and and I don't want to even say word word bother because it's not a bother, it's just it can get annoying, even for us as handlers, because it's like I just saw you like an hour ago, and here comes a different question. It's like you gotta know when enough is enough. Yeah. Sorry, people that do that, but we're here to help you. We want you to have British Liz: Yes. KENT: a good experience. We want you to come back. We want you to really enjoy the Comic Cons and you know and and same with the talent. We want them to come back to see you. Yeah. So British Liz: Yeah, 'cause they they really enjoy meeting fans. I mean, how how how wonderful is it to hear I love you, I love your work and here's my money. That's a great thing to experience. KENT: Yep. Yep. Or the only reason I came to this show was because of XYZ. You know, and I I mean, literally I had four or five people come up because I was with Eva Ladere, who hadn't been on a show since two thousand and ten. And they were like, my gosh, when they announced you I had to come to the show. You were the only person I wanted to come and see. And I was like, that's awesome. I told her, Don't get a big head about that, you know. British Liz: I do love it when when people seriously travel to see a guest. I KENT: yeah. Yeah. British Liz: just I love that. You know, I came from Nebraska or wherever. I think when I was in Tennessee. Yeah. KENT: And they live in Oklahoma. No, I'm just kidding. No, like when you're in Rhode Island and they've come from Oklahoma or Nebraska or, you know, I I there was one con I was in Florida and they came from Boston. They drove from Boston just to see the voice actor. I was like, wow, that's some commitment. Like they were British Liz: That's wonderful. Yes, said KENT: like, they They drove, slept in the car, drove, made it to the con, got the autograph and da da da. And then were dr on the way back because they had to be work on Monday. And I'm like, that is huge commitment. That is huge commitment. But kudos to them. Yeah, though. Yeah, of course. British Liz: That's nuts. That really is. And what a compliment to the actor. I love it. KENT: That's awesome. That's awesome. Will Liz. British Liz: I think we have probably yakked enough for this week. KENT: I don't know about you. My voice is tuckered out. I think I talk the most of time. yeah. British Liz: possible possible. KENT: We should we should have a timer. See like when you talk cleck, click, like like chess, you know. British Liz: Yeah. KENT: yeah. Yeah. Anyways. But yeah, it was a good week. Are you off to any shows this coming weekend? You got a break? British Liz: No, actually my next one is after the fourth of July holiday. KENT: ooh, speaking of which, Fourth of July. Well, British Liz: You mean the seventh of July? KENT: I didn't even think of that one too. But you know, yeah, well, British Liz: Ooh. KENT: we're gonna have a celebrity. Well, celebrity, voice actor, robot, da da you know, kinda person. British Liz: You mean droid? KENT: Droid. Well, we'll have them on our show on coming up and couple episodes. So, you know, British Liz: Mm-hmm. KENT: for that one listener that listens to us, they have something to look forward to. We got a celebrity guest coming on here to talk. So British Liz: Yeah. KENT: yeah, yeah. But you know, Fourth of July to we'll we'll talk about that next week because that'll be right before it'll be right after our episode and stuff like that. But British Liz: D do you h do you have a show? Fourth of July weekend? KENT: I don't I actually got the Fourth of July off. Can you believe that? I mean holy cow. British Liz: Well, 'cause Denver, Fan Expo Denver was KENT: Usually. British Liz: Fourth of July weekend for several years. is it? KENT: Well, it'll I think it's going back next year. It's just that they could only get the convention center in June or May, so that's when it happened and and stuff like that. So British Liz: You would have thought such an enormous convention could kind of tell the convention centre when. well. KENT: There are bigger nope, nope, nope. Even San Diego has fluctuated over the years. From August to July, stayed in July, moved to June, then back to July. First British Liz: Really? KENT: yeah, yeah. Look at Google it. Google it is like has s yeah, yeah. Yeah. British Liz: That's two things I have to Google. I'm tired already. KENT: Yeah, the the convention centers control a lot of stuff and obviously the shows can book a a year in advance, but if there's a bigger show or convention, they can knock them out of the race for that that week. Yeah. British Liz: Beauty. KENT: I've learned that too. So yeah, it's crazy. You know, don't always say it's gonna happen on the same weekend. I mean, for small ones, sure they use a a smaller venue. Convention centers, mm, not so much. So Yeah, but I was gonna say something about the Fourth of July and then I just it just baffled me. Went out the window. I'm heading to D D C this weekend for Amazing Art Expo. If you haven't been to an Amazing Art Expo, you should Google that. Amazing Art Expo. They're everywhere. Late. Bryce is gonna be in Hawaii next week. Bryce Pappenbrook is gonna be in Hawaii at an amazing art expo. British Liz: Really? KENT: I know. I'm like, they're sending me to DC and not Hawaii. I'm like, ugh, but that's okay. British Liz: Hey, do you think they need a volunteer? Yeah. KENT: you never know. You know, but yeah, so Washington, DC, Amazing Art Expo. Google it. It's a free event. You can go, they have cosplay contests. British Liz: And the art the the fan art is just phenomenal. KENT: They got some great actor and the artwork, my god, the fan art yep. Yep. Did you know they pay the artists for all the pieces that they sell? British Liz: They pay the artist? KENT: Amazing Art Expo will consign somebody to draw an art piece, pay them for it, and then they make the print. And then every time a print is sold, they pay them. Isn't that cool? British Liz: That's terrific. Yeah. KENT: Yeah. Yeah. I was like, huh. Cause I I talked to the owners and I was like, well, you've got all this artwork from the original artist. Do I mean, is there any, you know, commissions or how does it work? And they're like, yeah, we commission them to draw, you know, this character or this piece, but then every time we sell a print, they get a percentage. And I'm like, that's great for the artist because now they got this a recurring revenue at each of the shows that the art expo does. British Liz: Mm-hmm. And if and then if if the artist is at the show, they can sign it. They sometimes they touch it up with with kind of live paint. KENT: They sign it. Yeah. Touch it up. Make it like an artist proof. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Some of the short artists are at the shows, which are awesome. So yeah, British Liz: Yeah. KENT: yeah. So if you're, you know, around and about, go check out the Amazing Art Expo. I'll plug them. So yeah, yeah. There you go. British Liz: Ha ha ha. KENT: Awesome. Well, it was great talking to Liz. Sorry you that you didn't have a show this week, but you know, there's always more coming up. British Liz: There's tons tons of shows. KENT: Yeah. Plus, you know, that gives you time to think about our next show, what we're gonna talk about, you know, get some special guests onto the show. British Liz: Yeah. KENT: Yeah. my gosh. So we got a list too. I mean, we got Minnie Mouse, the voice of Minnie Mouse. We got comic book men, we've got a couple of anime people. we got some horror people that are want to be on our show. we British Liz: Cool. KENT: got some 5-0 people, droid people, comedians and and stuff. So yeah, I mean, just hold on. We're just getting revved up and going and stuff like that. So stick around. And if you liked what we did on this show, if it caught interest or made you laugh in any way. feel free to follow us. It's Conversations with Coffee. My name's Kent. That's British Liz. Yeah, she's the tea British Liz: I'm British Liz. KENT: drinker. I'm the coffee dude. So, and you know, as you can see, we will go down a rabbit hole and then somehow try to bring it back to what we were talking about. British Liz: Yeah KENT: Awesome. Well, I hope you have an amazing day. Like always, it was great to see you, Liz. British Liz: And I hope you do too. And have a fantastic weekend in D C. KENT: I will. I'm gonna go see some monuments. I always British Liz: Mm. KENT: love you know my favorite one? Lincoln Memorial. I just the I don't know. I just like sitting on the steps and knowing Lincoln is watching my back. I it's just the feeling British Liz: That's beautiful. Yeah. KENT: of just being there. We'll talk about that next week because you know, we're gonna British Liz: Okay, let's do it. KENT: be rolling right into the fourth of July and stuff. So yeah, we can talk about DC and fireworks and what you're gonna do to blow everything up in St. Louis. British Liz: Well, I can but try. KENT: There you go. There you go. Awesome. Well have an amazing day. Thank you to our subscriber. We love you. We hope to see you at a show. British Liz: Yes, and and if you know anybody if you know anybody else that would like to subscribe, they can be our second subscriber. Yeah, we're gonna try. We're gonna try. KENT: are we working on a second subscriber? So we got one. We're working on two. Watch, we'll have all these comments and they're like, I'm a subscriber. No, no, no. There's only two. We know it. The rest are all bots out there. They're British Liz: Yeah KENT: all bots. But we love our subscribers and thank you for listening to our show. We look forward to seeing you next week on our new adventure. British Liz: All right, we'll have a conversation KENT: Alright. British Liz: later. KENT: I like that. We'll have a conversation later. Alright. Bye for now.