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Episode #3944 The New Phil Hendrie Show · The World of Phil Hendrie

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Speaker 1: Welcome to our Radio Archive Hour, our featured Radio Archive
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Speaker 1: Jeff Dowder first up here as he talks about how machines,
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Speaker 1: machines are what's screwing things up because of the vote
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Speaker 1: counting in the November election about 2000. Machines are screwing
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Speaker 1: things up, and they're here to put a stop to it.
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Speaker 2: He and his people.
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Speaker 1: We were looking to get an official on from the
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Speaker 1: Florida Secretary of State's office. We weren't able to do that.
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Speaker 1: We may still, but we do have Jeff Dowder from...
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Speaker 1: a group called People First, an organization that has been
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Speaker 1: monitoring this in Florida. And, Jeff, you're a South Bay
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Speaker 1: musician in Florida right now?
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Speaker 3: That's correct, Phil. We're in the state of Florida right now, observing, hopefully,
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Speaker 3: a fair count.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so tell me what's going on, and tell me
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Speaker 1: about your organization, People First. You're an anti-technology group?
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Speaker 3: We are anti-technology. Many people, I guess, at times have
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Speaker 3: said that we were... in agreement with people like Ted Kaczynski,
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Speaker 3: we're not that extreme. We're not as extreme as some
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Speaker 3: of these organizations, but we are an anti-technology organization, which
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Speaker 3: we feel is necessary right now because I think we
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Speaker 3: can see the effects of technology.
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Speaker 2: What effects of technology are you seeing?
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Speaker 3: Well, I think we very clearly see that this election
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Speaker 3: for the president of the United States of America has
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Speaker 3: not gone good on account of they use computerized balloting
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Speaker 3: technology mechanized balloting and vote counting, and as a result,
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Speaker 3: this has an error margin of 5%. And we're looking
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Speaker 3: at an election that's a lot closer.
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Speaker 1: So what you guys are suggesting is that you are
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Speaker 1: endorsing this hand count?
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Speaker 3: We endorse the hand count. We also see the Democratic
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Speaker 3: Party endorse the hand count. I find it very curious, Phil,
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Speaker 3: I think it's kind of interesting that the Republican Party
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Speaker 3: do not endorse no hand count. And the reason why
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Speaker 3: is because they believe in the machine.
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Speaker 2: The Republican Party believes in what?
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Speaker 3: The Republican Party believes in the machine.
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Speaker 1: What do you mean by the machine, Jeff? Are you
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Speaker 1: talking about the standard way of doing things?
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Speaker 3: No, I'm talking about the machine. I'm talking about the
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Speaker 3: underlying technologic machine-like underpinnings of this society. that has thrown
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Speaker 3: this election into the quandary that it's in right now.
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Speaker 3: I mean, we're talking about a mechanized election that has
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Speaker 3: a margin of error of 5%, and guess what? We've
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Speaker 3: got a problem.
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Speaker 1: Now, your group, People First, is anti-technology to what extent?
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Speaker 3: We believe that America needs to return to, we think
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Speaker 3: that our country functions better in what we call a rustic, woodland,
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Speaker 3: in the rustic wood-burning flannel, when people wore flannel. And
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Speaker 3: we also see how the environment has suffered with the
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Speaker 3: advent of the car and factories belching.
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Speaker 1: Well, you're not talking about getting rid of cars and
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Speaker 1: voting machines and.
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, we have factories, Mr. Henry, belching black
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Speaker 3: soot directly into the faces of our children. You can't have...
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Speaker 3: There's not a child who'd go down the street in
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Speaker 3: America today without soot going into his face or a machine.
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Speaker 3: A machine pushing a soot into the little kid's face.
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Speaker 3: So we think that this election is proof positive that
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Speaker 3: the machinery has broken down the will of the people
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Speaker 3: and alienates people. I don't think it would be trusted
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Speaker 3: because there is a 5% error rate. And we think
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Speaker 3: that this is one of the problems with technology.
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Speaker 2: Are you saying.
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Speaker 1: That you not only want to get rid of mechanized
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Speaker 1: voting and mechanized and computerized balloting, you want to get
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Speaker 1: rid of technology?
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Speaker 3: We do believe that we are a better society, yes.
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Speaker 2: All technology, all telephones?
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Speaker 3: We believe we are better. I mean, in this election,
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Speaker 3: the machine would confuse us. We need to hand count
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Speaker 3: up the votes, Mr. Henry, is what we're saying. The pure, unadulterated,
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Speaker 3: simple process of counting ballots by hand. And to that extent,
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Speaker 3: we've been in touch with the principals involved.
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Speaker 1: All right, well, you haven't answered my question whether you're
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Speaker 1: against technology 100%.
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Speaker 2: Well, we are.
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Speaker 3: Basically an anti-technology organization, but we were starting with this election.
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Speaker 2: All right, well, what people have you been in touch with?
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Speaker 3: We've talked to certain individuals who have connections with the
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Speaker 3: voting apparatus here in the state of Florida.
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Speaker 2: Where are you now? Are you in West Palm?
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Speaker 3: Yes, we're in West Palm Beach.
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Speaker 2: Okay, what have you told these people?
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Speaker 3: Well, we simply asked them how the hand count is
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Speaker 3: going to go. Is it a pure hand count? They've
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Speaker 3: assured us that they will not be ordering lunch or
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Speaker 3: nothing during the hand count.
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Speaker 2: Well, why did you ask that?
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry?
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Speaker 2: Why did you ask that they're not ordering lunch?
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Speaker 3: Because during a hand count, if anybody is ordering lunch,
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Speaker 3: like if they order two egg salad sandwiches... or three
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Speaker 3: large Cokes, and there's someone counting one, two, three, four.
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Speaker 3: Then the individual orders three large Cokes, one, two, three, four, three.
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Speaker 2: You're saying some kind of a confusion? What are you
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Speaker 2: talking about?
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Speaker 3: So in other words, when they're hand counting in the room,
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Speaker 3: and someone orders lunch and says, we want three.
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Speaker 2: So the numbers.
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Speaker 3: The numbers would confuse them, yes, sir.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 3: But I've been assured the people that will be hand-counting
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Speaker 3: the ballots are going to be in secret rooms where
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Speaker 3: they can hear people ordering lunch. I was told by
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Speaker 3: Marty Sinclair at the registrar's office also that the hand-counters
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Speaker 3: are not counting out loud so that they will use
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Speaker 3: the 1, 2, 3, 4 slash method.
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Speaker 2: What's wrong with hand-counting out loud? Because of the confusion?
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Speaker 3: Because of the confusion factor. If you went 1, 2, 3, 4, 5...
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Speaker 3: Anybody enters the room and says, did you want three
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Speaker 3: chicken salad sandwiches or whatever?
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Speaker 1: I've got to tell you something, Jeff, and we're talking
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Speaker 1: with Jeff Dauter from People First. Our number is 1-800-449-8686
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Speaker 1: about the hand count in Florida.
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Speaker 2: This seems like too primitive.
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Speaker 1: In other words, hand counting may be good, but if
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Speaker 1: you're worried that a guy is going to get confused
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Speaker 1: hand counting the ballots by someone who's ordering lunch... Isn't
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Speaker 1: it time we go back to the machines?
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Speaker 2: No, sir.
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Speaker 3: I think that we are way better off with a
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Speaker 3: hand count. It is a pure, unadulterated hand count.
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Speaker 1: Because there's a lot of people who would dismiss anti-technology
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Speaker 1: groups like yours and say that you guys are nuts, okay?
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Speaker 2: What would you say to that?
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Speaker 3: I would say, Mr. Henry, you could have dismissed me
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Speaker 3: before the election, but now I think you'll all agree
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Speaker 3: our country needs to be taken back from the machine
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Speaker 3: and given to the hands of the people, literally. So
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Speaker 3: you could call me extreme before the election, but look
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Speaker 3: what your computers has gotten us. Look what your machines
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Speaker 3: has gotten us. And look what's going on on account
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Speaker 3: of they don't have a hand count. And now they're
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Speaker 3: doing a hand count. And so we have gone from
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Speaker 3: the machine back to just a good old hand count.
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Speaker 3: And I, for one, am in favor of that.
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Speaker 1: Okay, but if the hand count can be messed up
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Speaker 1: by something as simple as a guy ordering lunch.
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Speaker 2: Or saying a number, or.
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Speaker 3: Well, you've seen it. I mean, children will be counting one, two, three, four, whatever.
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Speaker 3: You can confuse people when you throw in extra numbers.
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Speaker 3: That's all we're saying.
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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know how a hand count goes.
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Speaker 1: I would imagine that a hand count is being double
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Speaker 1: and triple checked by other people.
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Speaker 3: It's double and triple checked by other people, but these
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Speaker 3: are people who are still going to be subjected to
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Speaker 3: somebody in the room saying, I want two double Cokes,
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Speaker 3: three double-double animals, you know, with fried onions.
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Speaker 2: And that's... I don't understand. Is that ordering.
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Speaker 3: That's like an In-N-Out burger, okay?
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Speaker 1: Okay, so a guy's ordering up a double-double animal where
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Speaker 1: he says, I want three Cokes or whatever.
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Speaker 2: That's confusing.
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Speaker 3: That's confusing a person that is doing a hand count. Yes, sir. Yes, sir,
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Speaker 3: it is. And so what we're saying here to all
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Speaker 3: the people of America and of the state of Florida
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Speaker 3: as well, we believe in the hand count, and it's
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Speaker 3: the Republican Party... with its ties to the machine and
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Speaker 3: to the computerized dehumanization, I think.
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Speaker 1: This is a very anachronistic view of the Republican Party.
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Speaker 1: I think that it's some kind of a machine.
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Speaker 3: No, sir, because they're the ones that are fighting for
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Speaker 3: the machine, not the Democrats. The Republican Party is fighting
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Speaker 3: for the machinery, and they're fighting to have computerized counts.
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Speaker 1: All right, 1-800-449-8686 is the number here on the Phil
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Speaker 1: Hendry Show. We're talking with Jeff Douter. called People First.
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Speaker 1: And you're an anti-technology organization. I understand that. You also
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Speaker 1: said that you're not Ted Kaczynski.
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Speaker 3: Our organization has got nothing to do with Ted Kaczynski. No, sir.
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Speaker 3: We are not violent. We don't believe in that. We're
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Speaker 3: simply trying to return America back a time when we
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Speaker 3: don't have to worry about somebody ordering lunch to mess
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Speaker 3: up a presidential election.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's a hand count. That's not a machine count.
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Speaker 1: And that's the part where you're getting me.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to Philadelphia on the Phil Henry Show.
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Speaker 3: Hello. Hi.
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Speaker 4: Yes, sir. This guy is nuts.
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Speaker 6: The whole reason that the vote.
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what's nuts. I'll tell you what's nuts
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Speaker 3: is the fact that our electoral process has been thrown into...
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Speaker 3: You're telling.
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Speaker 4: Me that this stuff isn't high-tech?
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Speaker 3: It's too high-tech.
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Speaker 6: The problem is it's not high-tech enough.
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Speaker 3: No, no, sir.
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Speaker 6: They need to get computers in there. They need to
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Speaker 6: tie this stuff together. They need to know how many
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Speaker 6: votes they got. They need to be more accurate.
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Speaker 3: They've got it right now.
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Speaker 6: They're pressing holes in a piece of paper, and you're
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Speaker 6: telling me that's high-tech?
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Speaker 3: I'm telling you that's IBM. That's IBM. That's state-of-the-art.
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Speaker 6: IBM from 50 years ago.
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Speaker 3: I'm saying that a hand count, you can't go wrong.
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Speaker 6: A hand count is totally not accurate.
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Speaker 3: Do you know how to count to 10?
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Speaker 4: If you can count to 10... What are you thinking, man?
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Speaker 4: You need to, like.
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Speaker 3: No, sir, I'm talking about the only thing that can
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Speaker 3: ruin a hand count is people who might order lunch
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Speaker 3: in the area.
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Speaker 4: That's ridiculous. I think it's a little more strict than that.
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Speaker 6: First of all, the whole reason that the vote's screwed
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Speaker 6: up is because they're not high-tech enough.
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Speaker 1: They need to get computers.
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Speaker 4: Don't we have a computer?
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Speaker 2: Aren't they computerized right now?
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Speaker 3: They're using an IBM punch card system, Mr. Henry, which
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Speaker 3: is a standard system. They use it in 1996. They
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Speaker 3: use it every presidential election going back 40 years.
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Speaker 4: That's the problem.
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Speaker 3: 40 years ago. Well, dude, it worked good.
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Speaker 6: They need to get computers in there. touch the screen,
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Speaker 6: you catch your fingerprint. They know how high-tech they can
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Speaker 6: be with the same. The polls close at 8. They'll
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Speaker 6: tell you exactly how many votes at 8.01 were made
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Speaker 6: all day and tell you who's the winner is right away.
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Speaker 6: They don't need this old punch-card crap. We've got to
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Speaker 6: put the punch-card through.
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Speaker 3: I would submit that a hand count is much more accurate.
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Speaker 3: A hand count is much more accurate.
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Speaker 6: You're telling me a hand count is much more accurate
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Speaker 6: than a brand-new computer system, 2007.
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Speaker 4: Put in there.
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Speaker 3: If you keep the hand count away from people who
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Speaker 3: might be giving out numbers they're not supposed to.
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Speaker 4: You need to get out of your cave, buddy.
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Speaker 3: If a dude is going to order lunch, he could
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Speaker 3: screw a hand count up, is all I'm saying. Order lunch? Yes, sir. Okay,
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Speaker 3: go ahead. Count to ten. I'll show you what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: Count to ten. What do you mean, count to ten?
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Speaker 3: Just go ahead. Just count to ten. One, two, three, go.
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Speaker 4: One, two, three, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten.
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Speaker 3: Five, six, seven, eight, one, two, eight, one, one, one, three.
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Speaker 3: It confused you, okay? That's what can happen. But why
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Speaker 3: is that even an issue?
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Speaker 6: You're contradicting yourself.
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Speaker 1: Well, you know, exactly, because what you're saying, Jeff, is
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Speaker 1: while you believe in the hand count, you think a
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Speaker 1: person can get mentally confused enough.
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Speaker 3: I'm saying if you keep a guy who's ordering lunch
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Speaker 3: or other numerical things out of there, see how that
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Speaker 3: guy got messed up?
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Speaker 2: Well, I didn't hear him get messed up.
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Speaker 3: I didn't get messed up. Do it again. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.
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Speaker 4: No, I heard him count to 10.
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Speaker 3: All right, okay, but he was concentrating. A lot of people,
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Speaker 3: you can see what's happening.
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Speaker 4: With this election.
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Speaker 6: So you're telling me those guys that are doing a
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Speaker 6: hand count aren't concentrating. The presidential election, that.
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Speaker 3: They're... If they're ordering lunch, what if they're ordering lunch?
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Speaker 2: I don't get the sense of what you're telling me.
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Speaker 4: You don't want to make it so high-tech.
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Speaker 6: You want them to do the hand count, and then
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Speaker 6: you're telling me you're worried about the motoring lunch.
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Speaker 2: Okay, sir, thank you for your call.
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Speaker 3: 1-800-449.
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Speaker 2: You do it, Mr.
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Speaker 3: Henry.
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Speaker 2: Look, I'm going to count to ten.
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Speaker 3: One, two, three.
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Speaker 2: 9-8-1. Two, three.
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Speaker 3: See?
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Speaker 1: I said one, two, three, and I stopped when I
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Speaker 1: heard you say 9-8-1 so I could start again.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's a follow-up. Like they used to say in
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Speaker 3: World War II, that's a follow-up.
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Speaker 2: All right, sir. Hold on, Jeff.
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Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
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Speaker 1: Jeff Dauter with an organization called People First. They are
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Speaker 1: against the computerized counting of ballots. They want to go
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Speaker 1: back to the hand count. Although he just said with
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Speaker 1: a hand count, if somebody comes into the room and
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Speaker 1: orders lunch or, in other words, confuses somebody mentally, that
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Speaker 1: is tough. But he's saying that he talked to people
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Speaker 1: in Florida. The people that are doing the hand counting
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Speaker 1: are sealed off in rooms where they can't hear people
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Speaker 1: coming in and asking how much, who wants lunch.
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Speaker 3: 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 1: And by the way, he's saying that this computerization of
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Speaker 1: the ballot is a Republican thing.
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Speaker 2: The hand count is a Democrat thing.
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Speaker 3: 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 2: Phil Henry Show.
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Speaker 7: We'll be right back.
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Speaker 1: 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 6: 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 1: That's the number to The Phil Henry Show.
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Speaker 2: And welcome.
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Speaker 1: It's Monday. We're back here, and we don't have a
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Speaker 1: president yet, but that's okay. We do have a president.
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Speaker 1: His name's Bill Clinton. And then we'll have a president
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Speaker 1: in January. This is all going to get straightened out.
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Speaker 1: Quick panicking. It's amusing to see these guys on Wall
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Speaker 1: Street going ape. It's just, it really is amusing. And
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Speaker 1: the reason why I say it's amusing is because Wall
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Speaker 1: Street should have a little bit more science and a
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Speaker 1: little bit more thought and a little bit more intellect today.
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Speaker 1: going into what they do than they actually have going
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Speaker 1: into it, because what they have going into it is
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Speaker 1: a lot of rumor-mongering, pure emotion, and these are the
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Speaker 1: guys that run the business of America, or at least
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Speaker 1: they're the guys who are buying and selling the stocks.
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Speaker 2: I shouldn't say they're running the business of America.
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Speaker 1: Jeff Dauter is a member of People First, which I
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Speaker 1: guess as an anti-technology group, you don't care about Wall Street, huh?
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Speaker 3: No, we don't care. Wall Street could implode. That's what
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Speaker 3: it's doing right now. You know, it's going down 85
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Speaker 3: points a day. I mean, you know, I could care less, man,
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Speaker 3: about the power pigs as they slop at their trough
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Speaker 3: in New York on Wall Street. They can slop at
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Speaker 3: their trough and, oh, whoops, looks like, you know, some
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Speaker 3: of their pig slop ran down their leg, man. Whoops,
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Speaker 3: looks like they're going down. You know, I mean, the whole.
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Speaker 2: What is your hostility, though?
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Speaker 3: Well, my hostility is simply this. The Republican Party... which
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Speaker 3: runs Wall Street, hey, check it out, man. It looks
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Speaker 3: like your pig slop's running down your leg, where the
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Speaker 3: Democrat Party, which is going to return America to wood-burning
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Speaker 3: and flannel as well as healthy, rustic pursuits, wants a
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Speaker 3: hand count. What's wrong with that?
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Speaker 2: Unless somebody's ordering lunch in the room.
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Speaker 3: But I told you they worked that out.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so they're not going to be ordering lunch and
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Speaker 1: confusing guys while they're counting.
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Speaker 3: If you're going one, two, three, four, five.
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Speaker 2: I know that, but so there's not.
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Speaker 3: Hold on. If you go one, two, three, four, and
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Speaker 3: some guy comes and goes, did you want three Cokes, man,
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Speaker 3: or do you want two Diet Pepsis? And you're going one, two, three, two. Man,
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Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying. I'm being slightly amusing about it
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Speaker 3: just to make a point. Well. Okay, well.
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Speaker 2: Hey, by the way, Mr.
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Speaker 1: Doughter.
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Speaker 3: Well.
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Speaker 2: Let's grow up, okay?
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Speaker 3: Yes, sir. I'll grow up, you know, if you want to.
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Speaker 5: Okay.
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Speaker 2: By the way, you're anti-technology?
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the 50,000-watt airwaves of the modern American radio station.
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Speaker 3: That's not it. That's the people belong to the airwaves.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the people belong to the airwaves. I just wanted
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Speaker 1: you to know you're using technology right now. Los Angeles
17:50
Speaker 1: on the Phil Henry Show.
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Speaker 3: Hello.
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Speaker 1: Hello.
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Speaker 4: Yes, I would like to say, one, that I believe
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Speaker 4: that everyone is perfectly aware that hand count is.
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Speaker 1: Far less accurate than computer count.
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Speaker 2: Can you hear me?
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Speaker 3: Yes, I can.
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Speaker 2: Okay, good. Go ahead.
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Speaker 4: The airwaves belong.
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Speaker 3: To the people, Mr. Henry.
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Speaker 2: Would you be quiet, please, Mr.
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Speaker 3: Doughter?
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Speaker 8: That a hand count is far less accurate than a
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Speaker 8: computer count.
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Speaker 3: Wrong.
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Speaker 4: And also, yes.
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Speaker 8: Wrong. Okay, let me make another point here.
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Speaker 1: Let the lady make her point, and then you can
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Speaker 1: make your point, okay?
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Speaker 8: My most important point for calling is, sir, if you
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Speaker 8: would like anyone to listen to you and take you
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Speaker 8: at all seriously, you should certainly take maybe, one, a
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Speaker 8: class in English. And two, learn how to express yourself
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Speaker 8: without sounding like a complete idiot.
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Speaker 4: You know, I'm.
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Speaker 3: Sorry that I'm not speaking in your cultured tones. You know,
18:42
Speaker 3: I'm just one of the working class of this country, ma'am.
18:44
Speaker 3: Maybe my parents couldn't afford to send me to the
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Speaker 3: finishing school your parents sent you to. I don't know,
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Speaker 3: you know?
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Speaker 8: Well, yeah, maybe you ought to teach your parents about
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Speaker 8: the technology of.
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Speaker 3: Girl! Of what? Hey, the American public school system is
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Speaker 3: a garbage can, and poor people can't afford to go
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Speaker 3: to private schools like your mother and father.
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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, a perfect example of that.
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Speaker 3: And if your father spent his life stealing money from
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Speaker 3: people so he could send his little girl off to
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Speaker 3: private school, well, good for him, okay?
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Speaker 4: I worked and paid my own way.
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Speaker 3: Through school, sir. What I'm saying is that technology is
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Speaker 3: taking this country. George Bush, you know, with his computer,
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Speaker 3: is going to steal the election in Florida. I don't
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Speaker 3: think so. The people are going to hand vote.
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Speaker 8: And what about every election that's taken place before.
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Speaker 4: This since time began?
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Speaker 8: No one has ever gotten the pop, I mean, excuse me,
19:31
Speaker 8: there's been several occasions where people haven't gotten the popular vote.
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Speaker 8: What about then when we did do hand count votes
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Speaker 8: and they didn't get to be elected because they didn't
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Speaker 8: win the popular vote?
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Speaker 3: What did you say?
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Speaker 2: There have been, she said that there were several.
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Speaker 3: I'm saying hand counting is the best way to go.
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Speaker 2: But you mentioned, what if someone orders lunch?
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Speaker 3: Well, that's just.
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Speaker 4: Well, that's just what?
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Speaker 8: That is one of the many mistakes that someone can make,
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Speaker 8: not just ordering lunch. You're making a point against yourself
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Speaker 8: by saying that people inherently will make errors.
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Speaker 3: No, I'm saying one thing that I suggest, though, that
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Speaker 3: the vote counter should do, and I realize that it's
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Speaker 3: not legal in the fascist society we live in now,
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Speaker 3: but if they smoked ganja to help them concentrate and
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Speaker 3: not mess up while counting 1, 2, 3, 4, 5,
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Speaker 3: they should concentrate better.
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Speaker 2: So now they're going to smoke dope.
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Speaker 8: You're a sick man.
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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm sick? You need to go get some help.
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Speaker 3: Is that the opinion from the finishing schools of Southern California?
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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Your polo pony's waiting for you now, miss.
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry I took up so much time.
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Speaker 2: All right, thank you, ma'am, for your call.
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Speaker 3: 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 2: Phil Hendry Show. 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 1: Phil Hendry's show on the line with me. Jeff Dauter
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Speaker 1: from People First. He is in West Palm Beach, Florida.
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Speaker 1: You're based in California, Mr.
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Speaker 2: Dauter?
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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, we are. We're in the South Bay. We're
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Speaker 3: down here with People First and a variety of organizations
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Speaker 3: here is interested in making sure that the votes is
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Speaker 3: counted right.
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Speaker 2: And you're in favor of a hand count?
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Speaker 3: We're in favor of a hand count. Yes, sir, we are,
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Speaker 3: because we do believe that the hand count is a
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Speaker 3: pure way of doing it. and because the Republican Party,
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Speaker 3: we think, has sold out America to the computer. Also,
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Speaker 3: we feel that, well, I forgot what I was going
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Speaker 3: to say, but we do feel this the best possible way.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: On 1-800-449-8686, you said the Republicans are the computer guys
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Speaker 1: and the Democrats want to return.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was what I wanted to say. The Republicans
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Speaker 3: are the ones that threw us into this computer age blindly.
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Speaker 3: without showing us how to do it right, the Democrats
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Speaker 3: are going to get us back to counting on our
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Speaker 3: hands so that we know what's right.
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Speaker 1: You made a comment about using marijuana, which I want
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Speaker 1: to ask you about.
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Speaker 3: I was just talking about the ganja helps you concentrate.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to ask you about that a little
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Speaker 2: bit later on. I'm going to go to another phone
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Speaker 2: call here, though.
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Speaker 1: Salt Lake City on the Phil Henry Show.
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Speaker 8: Hello.
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Speaker 3: Hello. Yeah, hi. Yes, sir.
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Speaker 4: Hey, I think Mr.
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Speaker 7: Pop Smoke and Dad approved my point without me saying much.
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Speaker 3: The only ones who.
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Speaker 7: Can believe that a hand count is more reliable than
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Speaker 7: a computer have to be out of the dark ages.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, how come there's a 5% error with computers?
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Speaker 3: With 100 million voters, 5% represents about, you know, 5
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Speaker 3: million voters, dude. That's, you know.
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Speaker 7: And you can quadruple that for human.
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Speaker 4: Error, sir.
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Speaker 3: And if George Bush was on the losing end of
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Speaker 3: this thing right now, he'd be sucking everybody's kneecap to
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Speaker 3: have a hand count.
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Speaker 4: By the way, George Bush signed a hand count law.
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Speaker 2: All right, hold on, guys. What are you saying, Jeff?
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Speaker 3: George Bush, I want to ask this guy here, why
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Speaker 3: did George Bush sign into law in Texas hand count vote?
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Speaker 7: Do you even know what source code is, sir?
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Speaker 3: Why did George Bush sign it into law?
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Speaker 7: A hand count vote?
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: If you had a ballot that was so screwed that
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Speaker 7: no one could understand it. The only time a computer
23:27
Speaker 7: makes a mistake is if there's a human error behind
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Speaker 7: the mistake.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to show you something right now. Okay?
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Speaker 7: Computers do not make mistakes.
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Speaker 3: It's a bunch of ones and zeros. Well, they made
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Speaker 3: mistakes on this one because they got George Bush winning this.
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Speaker 3: All right, all right.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for your call, sir.
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Speaker 3: What? I wanted to illustrate a point, if I could.
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Speaker 2: What point?
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Speaker 3: About the ganja.
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Speaker 2: Go ahead.
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Speaker 3: Just to say that I do believe that marijuana does
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Speaker 3: help in concentration. And I'll give you an example right now.
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Speaker 3: I'm not stoned right now. I do have a bomb.
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Speaker 1: You've got marijuana in front of you, sir.
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Speaker 2: I don't know that I want this done on my show.
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Speaker 3: I want to illustrate this, Mr. Rainer, in terms of
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Speaker 3: you could do a hand count and make it accurate
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Speaker 3: if you let people smoke the ganja.
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Speaker 2: Go ahead. Whatever.
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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to count now, and I'm totally not stoned, okay?
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Speaker 3: I'm completely... All right, I'm completely not stoned.
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Speaker 8: One.
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Speaker 3: Okay, you know what? One, two, three, four... See, I'm nervous. One, two, three, four, five, six...
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Speaker 3: I'm nervous, okay? Seven... Six... All right, do you know
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Speaker 3: how to count to ten? I'm nervous because I'm on
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Speaker 3: the show right now.
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Speaker 2: Count to ten.
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Speaker 3: One, two....
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Speaker 1: Three?
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Speaker 3: Three, five, okay. Four, five. All right, the whole point
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Speaker 3: of this, Mr. Annie.
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Speaker 2: You can't count to ten.
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Speaker 3: Yes, I can. But I want to illustrate it using
24:56
Speaker 3: what we call a chronic gargantua.
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Speaker 2: You're going to smoke pot, and it'll be better.
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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, it will. Okay, watch. One, two, four, six, seven. Watch.
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Speaker 4: Give me a light.
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Speaker 2: What are you doing?
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Speaker 3: Hold on.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 3: Okay, I have smoked marijuana. Now I'm feeling a little
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Speaker 3: bit buzzed.
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Speaker 2: Are you going to tell me you're going to count
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Speaker 2: to ten now?
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Speaker 3: Just watch. Hold on for a minute. Oh, God. Okay. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. Perfect.
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Speaker 3: Because I'm relaxed. Because I feel bitchin'. Hello? Yeah.
25:47
Speaker 2: I'm here. Let's go to New Jersey on the Phil
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Speaker 2: Henry Show. Hello.
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Speaker 1: I don't appreciate you smoking that stuff on my show, okay?
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Speaker 3: I was illustrating a point, Mr.
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Speaker 4: Henry.
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Speaker 2: New Jersey, Pine Hill, New Jersey, on the Phil Henry Show. Hello.
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Speaker 9: Yes, how are you doing?
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Speaker 3: Good.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, very good, sir.
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Speaker 9: I've got to ask this guy a question. He claims
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Speaker 9: the Republicans are poor computers, if I'm not mistaken. Could
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Speaker 9: he comment on the liberals trading votes over the Internet
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Speaker 9: and Al Gore claiming to invent the Internet? If this
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Speaker 9: is a partisan thing?
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Speaker 3: I'm totally talking about hand-counting votes right now. I don't
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Speaker 3: have no comment on nothing else.
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Speaker 9: That's because you're stoned.
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Speaker 3: No, it's not because I'm stoned, man. It's just because I'm... Okay, look,
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Speaker 3: there's the guts of the Republican Party for you. Dude
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Speaker 3: hangs up.
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Speaker 1: All right, well, you know, that's when we took his call,
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Speaker 1: he had a question. That's one of the reasons why
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Speaker 1: we're not really big on questions.
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Speaker 2: St. Louis on the Phil Hendry Show.
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Speaker 3: Hello? Hello.
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Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am.
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Speaker 5: First off, I am a registered Democrat... And computers are
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Speaker 5: a science just like any other science. And without science,
26:52
Speaker 5: we wouldn't have the longevity that we have now.
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Speaker 3: Kayla, say one, two, three, four.
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Speaker 5: Our children would not.
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Speaker 3: Do you hear that?
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Speaker 5: Yes, he's very rude, isn't he?
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Speaker 3: No, ma'am, I'm saying that I'm counting good.
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Speaker 5: Well, you know, without science, our children wouldn't be able
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Speaker 5: to live like they live now.
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Speaker 8: You know, I.
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Speaker 3: What?
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Speaker 5: You're talking about, man.
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Speaker 3: I'm talking about President Gore getting in.
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Speaker 4: You're talking about.
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Speaker 3: And his Nazis don't run your kid off the road.
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Speaker 5: What I'm saying is you're downing technology, and technology is
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Speaker 5: a science just like a medical science.
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Speaker 3: All I'm saying is the hand count's more accurate because
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Speaker 3: people can go 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, there.
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Speaker 5: Okay, well, they would not have found vaccinations for HIV.
27:46
Speaker 5: Don't you think our.
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Speaker 4: Country needs to be taken back?
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Speaker 3: Don't you think our country needs to be taken back?
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Speaker 3: Do you have HIV?
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Speaker 8: No, I don't.
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Speaker 5: I'm just saying that to put down all the technology
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Speaker 5: is absolutely necessary.
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Speaker 2: All right, all right. Thank you, ma'am, for your call.
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Speaker 2: Somebody get him a.
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Speaker 2: Get him a bib. Jeff Dowder from.
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Speaker 1: People first, not Earth first, people first.
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