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Ellise Addresses Melanie Martinez Allegations | Delulu with Ryan Lu podcast #308 · Delulu with Ryan Lu

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The whole point of The GIMP was basically to be, especially in
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the sex tapes video was to be like this person was in my life
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and now they're not, but the they're almost haunting.
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Me. They're haunting you like
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they're still present even though they're not physically
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there anymore. Exactly 100° here every day for
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the past week because I'm like, you know what, girl?
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A month ago I was in a snowstorm.
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That is crazy. The kids would call it brick.
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Yes, it was very cold. It was brick as fuck outside.
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It was brick as fuck. Hello, her Lulu's and welcome
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back to Delulu and a very special welcome to our on record
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favorite guest and something I literally I do hate saying that
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just because I genuinely love every guest.
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But guys, literally it's undeniable.
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Like just that was my favorite episode.
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I love her energy. But we have original dark pop
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trailblazer miss Elise. Now synth pop siren Miss Elise
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is back. Hi Elise, this is your good time
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on the show. Oh my God, I love.
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You, I love you so much. OK, I'm just gonna tell them
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guys, we shot half this episode. It didn't, it didn't work.
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So we're restarting now. But this version is gonna be
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better 'cause now we really are in a flow state.
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We had a dress for her. Soul.
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We did. We did.
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We did. Which honestly, it's like a
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second dress rehearsal because we talked for like an hour.
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We queened out. We queened out for like an hour
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right before we shot the first version of what we're doing
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right now. And now we're doing this one.
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But you're getting the best version.
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Oh, yeah, we are ready. This is your third time on the
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show. Thank you so much for coming
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back. I literally was begging Charlie,
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like, any way we can include Elise in this project, which is
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the podcast? Like please, like anything.
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I'm so happy to be back. Thank you for having me.
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Again, I will always come back. I'll come back on a quarterly
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schedule. Good, because I want you back
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again. Literally.
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So you need to come back like in another 4 to 5.
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Months I will I'll be there I mean I'll probably have new
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music by then, so I'll be back I'm.
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Going to be asking about that. I have a lot of questions about
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all of that. Just like even coming as a fan,
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like everything. I'm just so excited to talk to
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you and get into it. Let's get into it.
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We're going to. Get into it.
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OK, so we're going to start this show by doing some ASMR
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affirmations. We did it for the spooky Lulu
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episode of Delulu back in October.
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But we just want to give the listeners in the audience some
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good vibes. We're going to speak some good
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things into existence for you. So all you need to do is sit
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back, breathe, relax, and just receive it.
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Just listen and receive it. So we're going to take turns,
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OK? These are your ASMR affirmations
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for this episode with Elise. Do you want to start?
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I'll start. OK, you are magnetic to love
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that feels safe, deep and undeniable.
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Lucky you are deeply loved for who you are, not what you prove.
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You are worthy of wealth that exceeds your expectations.
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Claiming heavy you are confident, chosen and impossible
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to ignore. You are becoming the most
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powerful version of yourself every day.
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You are a natural receiver of abundance and luxury.
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You are the standard. People rise to meet you or fall
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away. You are the standard, claiming
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you were stepping into a life that once felt out of reach.
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You are attracting money in ways that feel aligned and
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effortless. Claiming you were secure in
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yourself and that security attracts everything.
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Claiming. I love those.
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Those were cute. We're claiming those.
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I'm claiming all of that. I actually need them really bad,
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but I'm claiming that. Wait, can I tell you something?
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I don't know why because this is genuinely like literally what my
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entire content is. Like what I've been doing for
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years is like just saying affirmations.
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It feels so unnatural. And I was like, I know how to
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speak but as I'm saying I'm like, I'm going to fucking
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stutter. I'm going to like my tongue's
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getting twisted or whatever. Like I felt like the pressure
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was so on when we did the ASMR affirmation episode a couple
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months ago and we did it for like a long time.
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I think it was like 10 minutes. I was like damn, I was real.
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That shit was kicking my. Ass.
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It was kicking my ass too. I couldn't keep it together.
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I was like, we literally couldn't keep it together.
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It was so hard because the party was just like I was telling
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Brett. I was like, just keep just keep
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it in well, just keep us like talking shit, Just keep us like
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laughing and like whatever. It's a fun little girly glove.
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Affirmation it. Was fun.
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Affirmation should be fun. Affirmations are fun and they're
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easy and they're easy to receive.
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So those were your affirmations. Well, at least we're going to
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get into it. Right now, we need an Elise Life
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update. It has been a few months since
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last time you're on the show. You tell us a lot of things,
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You're preparing for a lot of things, and now we're finally
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back. Since the last time you're here.
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You went on tour. I did.
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Tell us about the tour. It was so fun I.
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It looks so fun. It was incredible, honestly.
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Like, I love tour. Tour is my favorite part of
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anything that I do. But this tour was especially fun
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because I got to go to so many cities I've never played in
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before. Yeah, I've never really hit the
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South. I had never hit Texas.
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I'd never hit Florida. I never had hit certain places
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like Arizona and a few other places in like the is that like
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the West Coast, the Midwest area?
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Somewhere along those lines. Somewhere in there.
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Listen, I'm no geographer, but I got to play so many cities that
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I've never played. And it's always kind of nerve
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wracking when you do that because you don't really know,
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you know, first headline show somewhere, you don't know if you
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have fans there, if people are going to show up.
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You kind of just hope for the best.
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But it was so great. Honestly, those were some of the
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cities that I feel like were the most fun in Nashville for the
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first time. Oh my God, yay.
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It was not for the first time, but for the first time as a
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headliner. Oh my gosh.
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So it was really, it was incredible.
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And it was crazy too, because I was touring during the like
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crazy snowstorm. During the spot.
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The insane like thing that happened in January where
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everything was just snowed over. I mean, the day we were in
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Nashville, it was on the news that trees were exploding from
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how cold it was and people still showed up and showed out.
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So it was just so cool to. See, you're like freezing your
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ass off. Oh, I was so.
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You're a California girl. California girl through and
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through. I love an LA winter.
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Like I I'm not even mad that it's been like 100° here every
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day for the past week because I'm like, you know what girl?
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A month ago I was in a snowstorm.
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That is crazy. The kids would call it brick.
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Yes, it was very cold. It was brick as fuck outside.
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It was brick as fog. I was freezing the heater in our
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bus stopped working for like a few days.
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So we were like literally would go and you're you would have the
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cloud of air in the bus. It was insane.
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Oh my God, but I love. Tour so much.
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Nothing could bring me down. Absolutely.
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I was just ready. Yeah, yeah.
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Oh my God. And you were able to debut some
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of the new music on the tour, too.
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How was the reception to that? It was incredible.
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That was my favorite part of the tour was getting to play these
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new songs before they came out, even just like rehearsing them
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before the tour started. Exciting.
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It's such an exciting thing when you make new music and then you
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get to watch it come to life live for the first time and like
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you get to figure it out and mess with it and see like how
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you're going to perform it, what's going to be different
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about it. But it was so amazing to play it
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on tour people. Once it was like show 5 people
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in the crowd. They really.
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Knew all the words. That's me, girl.
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It was insane. When you're posting like the
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Instagram stories of the fans and their videos of the tour and
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the new songs. I was so gagged.
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I wish, Oh my God, I wish I was there.
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You needed to do an LA date. I will.
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You'll, you'll make up for it. I trust you.
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I certainly will. I will not skip LA on the next.
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Tour don't skip LA girl. I'm going to be there Pinky.
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OK, cool. And I'm.
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Going to be there. That's my pinky promise too.
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But I felt like I had so much FOMO because like I was watching
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all the videos and clips from it from your fans and you're
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posting your story and I love the tour Diaries and just
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everything you're doing, you're just giving.
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You're giving everything. And the new songs you look like
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you come alive on on stage, like it looks like something takes
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over. You genuinely like watching you
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performance, like it feels out of body, like I'm witnessing you
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out of body. It does feel like that when I'm
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up there, I definitely feel like I have a bit of an alter ego, or
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not even an alter ego, but just like a different persona, a
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different way that my personality takes shape on
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stage. I just feel so at home and at
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ease. On stage.
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I love doing it like I'm a performer through and through.
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Like since I was a little kid, I've always loved to be on
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stage. I love to anybody who will watch
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me. I'm like, let me sing for you
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right now, like my family, anywhere I'll go and perform.
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I'll go perform at a local middle school right now if they
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invite me. Like I just love to be on stage
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and to perform for people. So it's the best part of being
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an artist in my opinion. And like we were talking about
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like, I think there's so many parts to this career that have
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very little to do with actually being a musician and like
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getting to experience those things.
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So when you are on a time where you're like on tour or you're
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filming a music video or you're in the studio, exactly like
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those are the moments I cherish the most.
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And being on tour is just, it's a crazy high.
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Like you get to go up, you get to go on stage, you get to sing.
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Singing is the first thing I ever fell in love with in life.
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Like it's been the the love of my life, my entire life has
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been. More so than.
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Writing, even more than writing, I do love to write as well and I
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love all the aspects of being an artist, but singing is
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definitely the first thing I ever fell in love with.
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So getting to just go up and do it.
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And there's actually people there who love me and like care
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about it. And there's this like mutual
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love and this like really safe, amazing feeling in all the
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rooms. It feels, it's like euphoric.
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Absolutely. Especially like people
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connecting to you and your artistry and being able to put
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it out there. Because I think Amy Allen, I'm
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probably quoting this wrong and I'm probably quoting the wrong
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person, but she said, like, making music is only 10% of
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being an artist and like, it's like 90% of doing literally
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everything else. So like getting the opportunity
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to even see the fans, connect with the fans, have them hear
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their music, have them like, enjoy it, sing it back to you.
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Like that's crazy. It's it's insane.
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And those songs you thought you're performing weren't even
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out yet. When you're on tour, they
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weren't even out yet. I know.
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That's the the best feeling ever, like to look into the
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crowd and see people screaming the lyrics of her a month and a
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half before it. Came out I'm.
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Like that's fun looking. All I could ever ask for in
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life. Also, just let me say this right
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now, I'm I don't want, I don't want to forget about this.
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Her is so good. Like lyrically, it's so clever.
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I'm a huge fan of clever songwriting, like just really
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clever songwriting. And that song is just like, it's
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so well written and it's so visual and you really take us.
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They were like, just I know you said like singing is your first
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love, like the love of your life, like your writing is so
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impeccable. Thank you so much.
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Like super, super well done. Thank you.
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Her is incredible. We're we're going to get into
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all the songs. Let's get into that on the EP
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and the project. But so since then you went on
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tour. You've also released 3 singles
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for this new EP as well. So you release sex tapes little
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pill and Her. So this all happened right after
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you finished tour? You come back?
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Or did sex tape come out when you're on tour?
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It did come out during tour, but Little Pill came out right after
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tour. Yeah, it was pretty quick, yeah.
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And then her came out really quickly too, yeah.
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Oh my gosh, fast roll out. Fast roll out.
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Oh my gosh, you're really doing it.
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And then you finally announce the EP Bedroom Confessional.
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Yeah, Oh my God. So it's all happening.
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It's all happening. I'm so excited.
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It's literally my favorite music I've ever made.
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My favorite music you've ever made too.
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Thank you I fucking love it. I feel like I really have
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shifted my sound and my just everything, branding, visuals.
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I completely agree. Especially sonically, like I
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told you the last time I was on the show too, like it was going
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to be a different vibe. I just, I feel like it's a new
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version of myself as an artist. I feel like when I made these
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songs, I was in a very different place than I've been at any
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other point in my career when I've been like making songs and
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releasing projects. So yeah, it's it's a big shift
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for me and I'm really happy with how everything came out.
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This has been my favorite rollout ever.
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All the visuals have been my favorite visuals.
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Like I'm having the time of my life writing these music videos
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and bringing it to life and thinking of these like shoot
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concepts. You're literally giving.
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You are giving and like honestly, like I told you this
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before the show started, I feel like this new music to me, it's
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like this is you debuting like it's like another debut for you.
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It just feels so different and it feels like it feels like a
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different like side of you that we haven't necessarily seen or
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tapped into. Like obviously you trailblazed
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dark pop and you've been doing and you master that.
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But then coming in with synth pop and bringing in these new
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stories and the emotions that you're conveying here.
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It's like it's just it's so refreshing just as a fan and
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like listening to the music and synth pop is literally my
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favorite genre. When you told me on the first
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time you're on the show, when you were like the new project's
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going to be synthpop, I was visibly excited and you gave me
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everything I wanted more. Thank you.
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So I'm so happy to hear that. I'm so glad that you like, love
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the music. I genuinely love it.
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I stream it so much. Oh my gosh, wait, can I have my
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phone? I want to can we do I?
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I'm going to let's find out right now.
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I'm going to turn on my my on repeat on Spotify.
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Oh, I forgot, that's the thing. Let's go see.
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I'm like, I'm so confident it's going to be a little pill or
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her. OK guys, I don't know.
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I did not stage this. Oh my God, show up, please,
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guys, It was just Mercury retrograde.
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So we're getting out of Mercury retrograde right now.
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Internet's really bad. OK, I'm going to let this China
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load while we're chit chatting about it.
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But the new music is so good. OK, here it is.
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Little pill, little pill. Wow little pill.
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I knew it. OK, And I favorite daughter is a
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reference right now. So that's why it's the number
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one for me. It's an amazing.
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Song. That one's so good.
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Have you heard it? Yeah, of course I.
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Love just discovered it like the other and her guys her just came
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out her just came out her just. Came out three days ago.
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She's climbing, She's climbing. She's making her way up.
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Oh my God. Literally.
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Wait, I love you. I'm.
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So no, I genuinely love this music.
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What about just sitting here and glazing you?
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And I was just like, I didn't actually listen.
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Like, would you ever? Know you would have never
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offered to pull up the on repeat if that was the case.
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That's how I know you're not fake.
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Like love, you actually prove this.
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No, I love, I love Little Pill and I love like how high you get
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in the chorus and like, thank you.
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Whenever I'm trying to sing it, I'm like, Oh my God, here we go.
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Well, it's pitched up. I I know and it's so good.
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What a good artistic choice. Thank you, 'cause yeah, we
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recorded it, I think a whole step or maybe 1/2 step down and
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then we pitched the vocal up to have that sort of like childish
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baby. Vocal, yes.
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And it's so addictive. Oh my gosh.
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In the music video, Oh my gosh, we're going to get into this
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era. But yes, let's wrap up your life
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update. So 3 of you singles since last
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time you were here, you went on tour.
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We just had Mercury retrograde. How was Mercury retrograde for
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you? This is the first time this has
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ever happened to me in my life, but Mercury retrograde was
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actually fine for me. I was unaffected.
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I was unaffected. I'm kind of having a great year,
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which like I know we did this last time, but I literally if
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I'm going to talk about it, I need to knock on wood because
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girl, I thought the last few years were going to be my year,
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but it finally 2026. Is it like this is a good and I
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think it's because I'm in my Saturn return.
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I'm 27 so I'm in my I. Think I'm in my Saturn return,
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I'm 29. Oh my God.
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Wait, you are? One, I thought you were 23, but
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two, OK, I'm in my Saturn return and I'm feeling it, but OK, so
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you're in your Saturn. Return.
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I think I'm just finally in a place where I'm really happy.
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I'm not really I I've not been super bogged down by the the
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things I usually am bogged down by.
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I go through a lot of mental struggles.
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We'll say that typically like keep me very, I don't know,
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depressed or, you know, I, I go through a lot emotionally and
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mentally, which is fine because I end up putting that in my
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music and it's like, and I you. Know do you feel like it's a
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software free art? I do too.
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And I think I really used to feel like that.
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I genuinely used to have crazy traumatizing experiences,
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experiences that people like go to therapy for for years.
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Things that are like the darkest moments of my life.
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And a part of me would sickly be like, happy because I'd be like,
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oh, like I hear the music, music in my head.
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I hear. The.
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Album. Coming.
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Yes. Yeah, that's how I am too.
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But I think now I've matured a lot.
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I've I've had a very crazy traumatic past.
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I've been in LA since I was a little teenager.
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You've been in like running around.
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Yeah, I've been in it for a long time.
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I started releasing music in 2018 and a lot of crazy things
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have happened. I I mean, a lot of it is
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self-inflicted. I've put myself in a lot of
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precarious situations. Over the years, if you're going
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to be an artist, you kind of have to like whether you're
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trying to or not. That's kind of just the nature
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of the game. It is, and I feel like when I
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was younger I was also very drawn to things of that nature.
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Like I just. Oh, like the dark side of like.
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The flame of it. Yeah, me too.
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I was just very like, I almost like put myself in these
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situations that ended me up in really bad positions.
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But it made for some really good music.
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I mean, you got it. It's just I.
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Really do get it. It's the way of the artists.
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But no, this year I've been really happy.
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I've been, I was on tour and now I've just been in this rollout.
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I've been working a lot. I've been super busy.
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I've just been spending a lot of time with friends.
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It's been really nice. It's.
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Like super healed, like super mature, especially like with
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everything like you, obviously detailed.
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And last time we checked in at the end of last year.
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And we also talked a little about sex tapes, the song going
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deeper than just being about like, you know, getting to your
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ex, but also about like how insidious the music industry
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could be and like how they were going to take advantage of you
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and how they're going to, like, prey on you and stuff.
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Like there's a lot of layers that go on here.
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And I also feel like with the entire project, there's so many
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different layers to explore there, too.
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Totally. We're going to dive into that.
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But you're having a good Mercury.
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You had a good Mercury retrograde.
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You're having a good year. Yes.
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OK, that's good. Amen.
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Thank you, we used to pray for times.
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Like this. I'm still praying for times like
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this. This Mercury retrograde fucked
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me up so bad. These affirmations are going to
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heal you. Girl, they better because
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affirmations the last time that we did them for the spooky Lulu.
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Episode. I think they healed.
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Me. They healed you.
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Yeah, OK, well these ones, they better work like they're going
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to work Claiming, claiming, claiming, claiming starting
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right now. Okay, good.
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In the next check in I'm going to be like everything is.
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Great. Exactly.
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Okay, I'm shaking lilies gone. Okay, we'll take it.
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We'll take anything right now. I don't know I'm Saturn return
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right now. So how do you think that's
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going? I think it's going really well.
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I'm I feel like things in my brain are clicking this year.
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I feel something happening. I can't really place my finger
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on exactly what it is, but it's just something where I feel like
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I'm really maturing. I feel like I'm learning.
18:25
My whole life I feel like I've always been chasing the next
18:28
thing, chasing the next goal, the next to.
18:29
What I'm doing right now? Well, it's, it's natural.
18:33
It's and I mean, don't get me wrong, I still have goals and
18:36
want to obtain, you know, new heights and in my career, in my
18:40
personal life or whatever, of course, But I'm definitely
18:42
learning to enjoy the moment that's happening now and live in
18:47
it a little bit more and not just constantly be like, what's
18:50
the next thing? What's the next thing?
18:52
I'm. So guilty about like always
18:53
thinking like what's next? Like because like even right
18:55
now, like I love that you just said like trying to be like in
18:57
the moment and presently because that just grounded me really
19:00
quickly. I'm like, I'm doing this right
19:02
now. This is something I was looking
19:03
forward to having you on the show again and like, talking to
19:05
you again, like, it's nice. This is so good.
19:08
Yeah. It's happening right now, and
19:10
you know what little baby versions of us would be so proud
19:15
at even everything we've done. So far, you know, and like
19:18
ultimately, like sometimes think about I'm like, we're doing it
19:20
for them. Like these are their dreams that
19:23
they had and like the things that they wanted to do.
19:24
That's so true because it's so easy to get overwhelmed and it's
19:27
so easy to be like, OK, like, like you said, what's next?
19:30
Or just be like, OK, well, we did this now and we have to do
19:32
the next step. Especially as an artist.
19:33
It's just like, there's so many like pillars I used to pass and
19:36
like things I have to do. And this gets so overwhelming
19:38
and you know. It's really easy to get lost in
19:41
the sauce. It's really.
19:42
Easy to. Compare and to, you know, feel
19:45
all those emotions, which again, is natural.
19:47
But I think it's nice to just be like, you know what, Right now
19:51
I'm doing this and there's a version of me in the past that
19:54
dreamed of doing this. That's entirely true.
19:56
That's a really good perspective.
19:58
Thank you. You're so mature, like better
20:00
than me. Literally, even as we're doing
20:02
the show, I was like, OK, after this obsession, I have to do
20:04
this. And I'm like, no, you're right.
20:06
We should just just be here. Cowboy hat.
20:09
Cowboy sparkly rhinestone cowboy hat on.
20:11
All of that period. OK, well we are in a new era for
20:15
you, Elise. This is the bedroom confessional
20:17
era, your new EP. But also like love the hair.
20:20
I want to get into the hair. You were the actually the OG for
20:24
the pink front. What is the front?
20:27
What do you call the money piece?
20:28
The money. Piece yes, that was you because
20:31
you originated that like you did this in 2018, people were doing
20:34
it, inspired by you, crediting you and you brought it back for
20:36
this era. Thank you.
20:38
Yeah, I I will accept that title.
20:40
I feel like I did it very early on.
20:43
I it's like a funny story of why I did it too, because it wasn't
20:46
like this big plan to like make it a moment or anything.
20:50
I literally just like wasn't allowed to dye my hair.
20:52
Like my mom would have been so pissed if I dyed my entire head.
20:56
Of and you really wanted. To and I really wanted pink
20:58
hair. Pink is my favorite color.
20:59
It's always been my favorite color.
21:00
So I was like, OK, I went to the hair salon and I was like, can
21:04
you do this? I actually, I literally there's
21:07
no way I'm going to, I kind of have 90,000 photos in my camera
21:09
roll, but I took a photo of myself and with like the the
21:12
like edit tool, I drew the pink in the front of my ear and I was
21:16
like, can you that? Was your reference.
21:17
That was my reference. And she was like, yeah, and she
21:20
did it. And I loved it.
21:22
It was so cute. And I was keeping the rest of my
21:24
hair from being damaged while still having pink.
21:27
And I thought it was so fun. And then I think it just kind of
21:29
like started to blow up. A lot of people started to do
21:33
it. And by 2020, I mean, it does.
21:35
Everybody looks good with it. I've never seen someone look bad
21:37
with it. It's always a look on everyone.
21:40
So it just started to excuse me to pop off and it became like
21:45
this E girl trend to have this hair.
21:49
I'm like, I'll happily claim the title of starting that show.
21:52
You're the trailblazer of a lot of things.
21:55
Well, I'm going to give you all the credit for it.
21:56
I want to give you all your flowers.
21:58
But bringing it back for this era, like what made it feel
22:00
right for you for Bedroom Confessional?
22:02
Because there's a lot of pink in the visuals, in the music
22:04
videos, there are a lot of pink. The EP cover art has the pink
22:07
light. Like, there's a lot of pink
22:08
going on here. I think I just really wanted to
22:11
feel very myself again. And I had this hair for years,
22:16
like from 2018 to maybe like 2023, I had it.
22:19
And so I was like, I just, I want it back.
22:22
Like I feel so cute with it. I loved when I had it.
22:25
I love having pink in my hair. I just love the color pink in
22:28
general. So I was like, it's just time.
22:31
I was about to go on tour. I was like, I want to have a fun
22:33
color on tour and do something cute.
22:35
And then this whole era is very, very pink, very purple, very
22:39
like girly, I would say very feminine.
22:43
And so I wanted to feel that vibe even within myself.
22:47
And I love when I have pink hair because I usually wear all
22:50
black. And so pink is like the color.
22:52
It's the color. Yeah.
22:53
This is the accessory. Like now I can just wear a black
22:56
shirt and jeans and I'm like, it's fine.
22:57
My my hair is pink. Yeah, I love, I love the
22:59
intention behind it too, because like with the visuals and like
23:01
what you're saying about like this entire project, like it's
23:04
very girly. Like even when you're writing
23:05
like the track listing in the Star Journal and like with all
23:09
the bads on the EP cover and everything that you're doing
23:11
with this project is just feels like you're taking us into your
23:14
world. I've never felt so in Elise's
23:17
world than I do with this project.
23:19
And I know you said that you're proud of it and like, this is
23:20
your favorite thing you've ever done so far.
23:22
Like genuinely same. I'm obsessed.
23:24
I'm obsessed. Just as a fan.
23:25
I'm like, damn, you're giving everything I could ever want.
23:28
Like, I can see why the fans are so obsessed.
23:31
I'm obsessed too because it's just like, it's so good.
23:33
Getting that feedback from you is very like that is, I'm
23:37
honored by that because I really value your feedback.
23:40
You're amazing and. I love you.
23:42
I love you. It's just so intentional and
23:44
like, thank you. That's the thing being
23:45
intentional about is what excites me in the details,
23:48
literally down to the details. Like what I'm saying, like
23:50
literally when you're doing the track listing in the diary, like
23:54
bedroom confessional, you have a diary, you're on a mattress,
23:57
it's a little star journal. Like it's just, it's just so
24:02
well done. Like I so appreciate stuff like
24:04
that. I feel like artists just don't
24:05
do that anymore. And I wish they would do more of
24:07
it because like, I don't just want a string of singles.
24:09
I want like a story. I want to feel involved.
24:12
I want to feel like I'm in your life and world.
24:15
And you're actually doing that even a step further because with
24:18
the three things you put out and the music videos you're putting
24:20
out with them, this is literally a story.
24:22
This is a chronicle that you're doing.
24:24
Let's get into these songs. Let's do it.
24:26
Okay, so we kick off the arrow with sex tapes.
24:28
You talked about sex tapes when we first had you on the show,
24:32
and it's about this axe, but it's also a little bit about the
24:34
music industry and everything in the visual for it is so
24:37
stunning. And then you introduce this
24:39
character, this person in latex. What do you call them?
24:42
You said they were like a It was a word for it.
24:45
There, he's a GIMP. A GIMP.
24:48
He's in a GIMP suit. We have a GIMP and we introduce
24:51
a GIMP and he is such a focal point in the story and we've
24:54
seen the story progress through the music videos.
24:56
So let's talk about it like what is this concept?
24:58
What does that mean to you? Who is this person?
25:00
So to me, the GIMP, he's intentionally a GIMP because I
25:04
did not want the male figure in this story to have an identity.
25:09
I didn't want him to have a face because that's not what it's
25:11
about. It's not about him.
25:13
It's actually about me and the ways that my story with this
25:17
person affected me and my life after the fact.
25:20
All of these songs were made after the relationship that
25:24
they're about had already come to an end.
25:26
So the whole point of The GIMP was basically to be, especially
25:29
in the sex tapes video was to be like this person was in my life
25:33
and now they're not. But the they're almost haunting.
25:36
Me. They're haunting you like
25:37
they're still present even though they're not physically
25:39
there anymore. Exactly.
25:40
Oh my God, love. And I also love American Horror
25:43
Story. I I was such an American Horror
25:46
Story girl and season 1 was my favorite season and I don't know
25:49
if you remember, but Evan Peters in season 1, his character Tate
25:52
like wears a GIMP suit. And so I was also largely
25:55
inspired by everything about season 1, like the coloring,
25:59
even the the house I filmed it. I I really liked how it had sort
26:02
of like visual similarities to to murder house for American
26:05
Horror Story and I was really inspired by that.
26:08
But definitely the overall storyline involving the GIMP is
26:11
meant to represent like there is this year that was.
26:14
So that's also why I wanted him to be very tall because it's
26:17
like he was so big and tower because that's really how it
26:22
felt. Yeah, exactly.
26:24
Like he's this very big figure in my life that even though he's
26:27
not in my life anymore, like I'm still being so majorly affected
26:30
by him and and yeah, the GIMP suit.
26:33
Poor guy though, he can't see out of that thing.
26:36
He can't hear barely. Like we in the little pill
26:39
video, we were shooting over on a bridge over a freeway and
26:43
we're like walking down the street of the freeway and he
26:45
can't see anything and there's cars coming and I'm like, OK,
26:48
move to the sidewalk. Like he's such a trooper though.
26:51
He's such a sweet guy. For the art, like it looks good
26:55
and like I feel like that's visual component of it and like
26:57
this character that you introduce, like, again, creating
27:00
a genuine story. And this is where you start this
27:03
chronicle. So you said, is this going to be
27:05
a trilogy between sex pills sex? Sex pills gas station.
27:12
OK, sex tapes, bitch. Little pill and her.
27:16
We go from sex tapes to little pill and we see the GIMP being
27:19
stolen by another girl and this feeds into what happens with
27:23
her. And I am obsessed with her.
27:27
I love her. You posted it on your Instagram
27:29
story. I've told you this a million
27:30
times. You just posted it on your
27:31
Instagram story of you just playing it on the piano like
27:34
weeks ago, months ago at this point actually.
27:36
And I was so obsessed with it. I screen recorded it off of your
27:40
story and I would play it in the shower and it was really just a
27:42
minute. I think it was like the verse
27:44
going into the chorus. And I was just obsessed with it.
27:47
And then you started performing it on tour and then when you're
27:49
when your fans were posting the clips of it and you're posting a
27:51
story, I was like, that's fucking her.
27:54
And I love a good classic obsession song.
27:56
Thank you. I will record a full piano
27:59
version for you. Thank.
28:00
You. You can now too, because you
28:01
took your nails. Off I can't.
28:03
My nails are gone and I can play the piano again.
28:06
You should. Oh my God.
28:07
Oh my God, I love it. It was just haunting and
28:08
beautiful. But to be honest, I didn't even
28:11
know what to expect with the production of it either because
28:13
I didn't even know it was like going to be a thing.
28:15
I thought you were just like singing.
28:16
Like, I really didn't know. You didn't give any context.
28:18
Just put it on your story. The production of it is so
28:22
fucking good and I'm obsessed with the outro, like how chanty
28:26
it feels and how dreamy it is. And like just like with The Sims
28:29
and like this entire project, like I'm telling you, like I
28:32
just showed you my on repeat, but like, you know your
28:35
publicist Charlie, he posted his Spotify end of the year rap last
28:38
year and you're his one of his top artists, right?
28:40
That's literally going to be you for me this year.
28:42
Incredible because of this project.
28:43
Incredible. So fucking into it.
28:45
Like I said, you're like debuting as a new artist, but it
28:47
also feels like it's still like a darker synth pop, but it's
28:50
like such a different side of you.
28:52
Thank you so much. That really is what I wanted to
28:55
do with this music was kind of like reintroduce myself and be a
28:59
different version of myself. But at the end of the day,
29:02
another big goal with me for this project for me was to have
29:07
sort of my most almost like embarrassing, shameful thoughts
29:13
and emotions and feelings on display.
29:15
So my goal was to make things that sound very beautiful and
29:19
sound almost happy and like lighthearted, but really like
29:22
very lush. Exactly.
29:23
But the concepts are really when you get into it, it's like I'm
29:27
watching our sex tapes back. That's embarrassing.
29:30
I'm so obsessed with you. You're like a little pill like
29:33
and and the feeling is not mutual.
29:36
And then her is like I'm someone else.
29:39
I've been this. Yeah, like, I don't even care
29:42
about the person you're with. I'm literally, I don't even care
29:45
about you anymore. I care about the person you're
29:47
with so much. And I think that's an emotion a
29:50
lot of people have felt, maybe they don't want to admit they
29:52
felt. I mean, I hope this is
29:53
relatable, but it's. Extremely relatable.
29:57
Oh my gosh. Yeah, because we all go through
29:59
that. You know, your ex starts dating
30:01
someone new or your ex has an ex or you, you compare yourself to
30:04
someone who you're like, you know, doesn't even have to be
30:07
about relationships. It could be like wow that person
30:09
is doing so many things I wish I was doing or like why does their
30:12
life seem so much so? Fixated on them.
30:14
Yeah, that's the truth. Like, even in the chorus when
30:17
you're saying, fantasizing about what it's like to be hurt.
30:19
Like, to me, that hits because that's exactly how I feel all
30:22
the time. I told you this last time.
30:24
Oh my gosh, I didn't know about the song then when we were
30:27
talking, I literally told you I was like, I get super, super
30:30
obsessed and competitive with girls, like women in general.
30:33
So like her, that one hits me really hard because you asked me
30:36
earlier like which one's your favorite?
30:37
And I was like, it's little pill, but I was like, fuck for
30:39
her. Really like the motion in her,
30:41
like the sentiment behind her is like something I have dealt with
30:44
my entire life. This like competitiveness and
30:46
like this feeling and this drive and like, and girl, I haven't
30:50
felt that way about you because you were so stunning when you
30:52
came on the show. Oh my God, you were so stunning.
30:56
And like I, it was so crazy. Like we need to get into it.
31:00
I just wrote I. So I write my journal every day.
31:03
And then ironically, last night's journal entry was
31:06
October 1st. That was the last time you shot
31:08
at the Lulu. And then it was about you coming
31:11
on the show. And I was writing about how I
31:12
felt about that. And I was like, damn it, how can
31:15
I compete with these gorgeous singing ass bitches 'cause I'm
31:17
like, like, that's how I felt. But I get it, I'm the same way.
31:21
Like I I meet someone and it's genuinely less of a less of a
31:26
malicious jealousy and more of an admiration.
31:29
It's to the point of like I. Wish I was.
31:31
Her exactly like it's. That's why the video ends the
31:34
way it does, because in the end, I'm not trying to villainize.
31:38
The girl, yeah. Watch the her video.
31:41
Go watch the her video. It gets it gets, but that's that
31:46
is the point of that ending because really like when I'm
31:49
having this feeling about another girl, I'm not like, Oh,
31:52
I hate this bitch. Like I'm literally like I might
31:56
be in love with you, Like I I'm obsessed with you.
31:58
I have an adoration for you. And I think it's like, it's a
32:03
natural feeling like it really is, especially because we're in
32:05
an industry that is so inherently competitive.
32:08
We're all taught to compete with each other.
32:10
We're all taught that everything is based on numbers and
32:13
analytics and who's doing the best and you know, clout chasing
32:17
and all of these things that are so like surface level, but
32:20
they're very much ingrained in US.
32:22
And I think I think it's a normal feeling to experience.
32:26
And so that's why I made the song and I'm happy you relate to
32:28
it because I think a lot of I know me girl, me too, but I
32:33
think a lot of people can relate to it and it just it's a it's a
32:37
shitty emotion, but it's a real emotion.
32:40
And so that was like the overall point of the whole EP was to
32:43
kind of like really put these really grotesque, not cute to
32:48
talk about emotions on display, but then sonically make it very
32:53
just like airy and open and beautiful to kind of put people
32:58
at ease about those emotions. You know, that's my.
33:00
Favorite kind of music like I like I like sad lyric on a fun
33:04
production and me too. I love cry cry dance pop.
33:08
I love like being able to like, you know, feel every time.
33:11
One of your Girls by Troye Sivan perfect example.
33:13
Perfect. Very sad.
33:14
Lyrically sad, like he's he's making a.
33:18
Very devastating song it is so. Sad but then you listen to it
33:20
and you just feel like you could be like convertible driving past
33:24
the ocean yes you know it's not it's not necessarily a sad song
33:27
it's not a ballad, but lyrically, like the concept is
33:30
is sad it's him literally being like I I'll you know you know
33:34
what it's about it's explain the song to you it's.
33:37
So perfect to me too. Like it's just like, and it's so
33:39
lush and like pretty like when I'm making my music, what I want
33:42
is I want the same thing. I want sad lyric on top of like
33:44
a really bright production because I like the juxtaposition
33:47
of it. I like like the the feeling
33:49
that's like you really have to sit there and listen because
33:50
like I just immediately sonically loved her.
33:54
But then when I was really sitting down with the lyric, I
33:55
was like, I was telling you, it's so clever.
33:58
It is so well written. The narrative you tell, even
34:01
going on to like the second verse being like, I don't even
34:04
care about you anymore. And like, and honestly, she's
34:06
too good for you. Like God knows how you even got
34:08
her. But here we are.
34:10
And like I'm obsessing over her and the music video for it.
34:13
I love the mirroring, mirroring aspect and like the overlay and
34:17
just everything like it's so intention was so smart and like,
34:20
you know, the queer baiting allegations are about together.
34:22
Let me start them here. Queer Bader shut.
34:28
Up. I'm an ally.
34:29
Look, come on. You my theory, so I was sitting
34:32
here with my own fan theories, okay, and honestly, I'm gonna
34:36
give credit to your fans and your followers as well because I
34:39
was reading your comments and I was like, these are so they had
34:41
the. Good theory, really.
34:43
Good theories. When when I dropped the sex
34:45
tapes video, I want to hear your theory.
34:47
But like I was like, oh, there's Easter eggs, like go find them.
34:50
And the only Easter eggs in the video were all the titles of the
34:52
other songs. People were like, oh, the clock
34:54
is an Easter egg. Like, oh, she had like it was
34:57
crazy the things they were finding.
34:58
I was like, wait, you guys are I'm not even that smart.
35:00
I didn't think about those things.
35:03
But now I'm like, yeah, you're right.
35:05
That was. My mind.
35:07
Yes, of course that was. Me.
35:09
But what's your theory? I had the theory that I thought
35:13
after watching Sex Tapes and Little Pill and then with her
35:17
coming out, the song, her coming out, I thought that the GIMP
35:20
super person was a really tall woman and I thought it was your
35:23
life. I thought it was like a lesbian
35:25
moment. I thought it was a WLW moment.
35:27
I mean, we got that moment. We did.
35:29
I thought that's what that was. And I thought that was going to
35:31
be the reveal, like it was going to be this.
35:33
That would have been really cool.
35:34
I mean, I like, that's kind of better they.
35:37
Don't even exist, you know. Yeah, but that that is kind of
35:39
what it is like they they aren't even meant to be like he.
35:42
It's interesting because he's such a main component of the
35:45
videos, but he's really meant to be like Identityless A. 100% and
35:50
that's what it is and that's what it feels like.
35:51
And it's also just like this person isn't necessary like the
35:54
main character here either. This is supporting, this is the
35:57
aftermath. So we talked a little bit about
35:59
this. You wrote these songs while
36:01
you're making pretty evil, but they didn't make pretty evil.
36:04
So these are from this experience, from this previous
36:06
relationship. Because I know you've been in
36:07
your single era for the past two years.
36:08
We talked a little bit about it last time you were here.
36:11
That might be changing, but these songs are coming from this
36:13
previous experience. Yes, definitely.
36:16
I I wrote sex tapes and little pill and her at the same time as
36:20
I was writing pretty evil as sex tapes was the first one I made
36:23
for this project. And as soon as I made it, I knew
36:25
it wasn't going to be part of pretty evil.
36:27
Like that was never the plan. I had the concept idea.
36:30
I knew kind of how I wanted it to sound and we went in and made
36:33
it and I was like, OK, this is the start of something new.
36:36
This is going to be a completely different era for me.
36:38
It's a completely different sound.
36:40
And even like I love pretty evil.
36:42
That's my baby. But like while I was releasing
36:45
pretty evil and putting it out in my head, I was just like,
36:48
God, I just can't fucking wait for sex tapes to come out.
36:50
Like, I'm so excited. For this ET to.
36:51
Come out yeah I've made sex tapes at the end of 2024, Little
36:56
Pill and her in the beginning of 2025 so I've had these songs
36:59
for. A year and you've been living
37:01
with them for a long time. Yeah.
37:02
So that's also why I think everything has come together.
37:05
So a little fuzz so nicely because I've had so much time to
37:11
think and to mood board and storyboard and write.
37:15
It's been a lot. And I've really spent months
37:17
like doing that type of stuff. And I think it really shows
37:20
through in the visuals and the way that everything's coming
37:22
together. But yeah, I, I wrote these songs
37:26
still based on that same experience that Pretty Evil is
37:29
about. Like they're all about the same.
37:31
XI was with that man for 3 1/2 years and it ended so
37:35
catastrophically. And it was just a very, I think
37:39
a very, it was a core chunk of my 20s.
37:42
And and it wasn't just him either.
37:44
It was just the fact that from age like 19 until me and him
37:48
broke up, I was just jumping, jumping, jumping from
37:50
relationship to relationship. I literally did not know how to
37:53
be alone. I didn't.
37:55
Sing when it comes to like, love like.
37:56
You exactly. All in you like make it a by
37:58
trying pretty good identity. It becomes something like, Oh my
38:00
God, we talked about this before.
38:01
We love a charity case like I'm a fixer, we're Virgos.
38:04
We're Virgos, yes. And then we're I'm going to
38:06
invest everything to try to fix. Oh, me too.
38:08
I will completely I really ignore and neglect myself to fix
38:10
you and to make you the best version of yourself because
38:13
inherently I'm like a nurturer, like I want to make you better.
38:17
I want to. I see all the little details of
38:20
someone and I'm like, this is where we can level up.
38:22
Like let me get you right I want.
38:23
To get you there. Yeah, I'm exactly like that.
38:26
I literally was telling my friend yesterday I was like, OK,
38:27
I'm going to make all these changes to my life to improve
38:29
all of this so I can support this other person better.
38:32
And I was like. It's a it's bad.
38:36
It's I mean, it's obviously good to care about whoever you're
38:38
with and to, and you know, to have that.
38:40
But I think when you're the way we are, you end up attracting
38:44
people who don't reciprocate that and who are down to kind of
38:48
just take and take and take and not really give.
38:50
Back yes, I fucking love a loser.
38:52
Me too. I love a loser, I love a bum.
38:55
I'm like, come move in, come move in, drive my car, take all
38:59
my money. Let me help you in every way I
39:02
know how. Let's let's let me apply for
39:04
jobs for you. Like it's ridiculous the things
39:07
I've done. It's actually.
39:08
So embarrassing. Yeah, it's, it's sickening.
39:11
Oh my God, I have done all of that.
39:12
I think the universe really wanted me to be single.
39:15
Like I've definitely had a couple little flings here and
39:18
there with, you know, some whoever, but none of them worked
39:21
out. And at the time I was like, sad,
39:24
but I'm actually like, wow, the universe.
39:26
It really was like, girl, you need to be alone and you need to
39:29
heal. Like I've been in such traumatic
39:32
relationships. I've been in an abusive
39:34
relationship. I've been in like a serial
39:36
cheater relationship. Like I have just been through
39:39
the fucking ringer with the people I've brought into my
39:41
life. And so I think these two years
39:43
have been really beautiful in that way because I really have
39:46
healed. I had a lot of toxic traits, my
39:48
son. I mean, I still probably have
39:50
some, but you know, you don't go through relationships like that
39:53
unscathed. It makes you build walls.
39:55
It makes. You music, yeah, and also you're
39:58
returning and you forgiving and then like the the patterns and
40:01
the cycle of it all like we've talked about and like that's a
40:04
lot and that's a lot to unlearn, especially if you're.
40:07
In the situation exactly, you need to be removed from it.
40:09
You need your time away from it. Totally.
40:11
And I feel like I've really learned to like love myself and
40:13
just give myself attention and be a little more selfish with my
40:17
time and and more picky too. Like there have been guys who
40:21
like potentially I could have made them my boyfriend and you
40:24
know, started dating them, but I'm like, no, I need to be
40:27
picky. Like be picky.
40:29
I don't want to end up in another thing where it ends up
40:31
draining the life out of me and and I can't be the best version
40:34
of myself. I've worked so hard to get to
40:36
where I am now. A million.
40:38
Percent. So I don't want another.
40:40
And you've been through it and you already know.
40:42
Yeah. So what would have to be
40:43
different for you to be like, OK, we're gonna we're gonna do
40:45
this? I think it's, it's a lot of
40:48
things. I have a very long like I have a
40:51
really strong idea of what I would want in an actual long
40:54
term partner. Yep.
40:56
And if someone is not checking, I mean, no one's perfect.
40:59
Obviously you have to be OK with whatever problems you're.
41:02
Gonna be or compromise etcetera. But I think there's many things
41:06
that I've learned and from my past relationships where I'm
41:08
like, if I see even a second of that in someone new, I'm like,
41:11
we got to go, yeah, same. Like I got to run it's.
41:14
Just how it has to be, because then at the same time I'm just
41:16
like, why? Why fold?
41:18
And I've been there, we've been there, you know what I mean?
41:20
So like we've. Done it.
41:21
We've done it. I'm not saying I want to do it
41:23
again. I won't say I'm not doing it
41:25
again, but I'm just saying I'm aware that it should not be
41:28
happening. Yeah.
41:30
At least you're aware. That's a gross sometimes.
41:32
You go to have a little fun and just like, fuck around, but at
41:35
least you're aware. Oh.
41:36
My God, sometimes I feel like we talked about this earlier.
41:38
Sometimes I feel like I have to suffer for the art because I'm
41:41
like, I want something to write about.
41:42
I want something of substance and I think that's toxic of me.
41:45
I don't create the scenarios, but I definitely also I'm just
41:48
like, OK, if I can get there so I can have something meaningful
41:50
to write about because that's something that's important for
41:52
me is like having something to say, but like, how do you get
41:55
there? Like, I used to joke around
41:57
like, a couple weeks ago, like, I wish I was, like, heartbroken
42:00
right now so I could be writing about it.
42:01
And it's like, no, you don't wish for that.
42:03
Yeah, you don't want. That and I get that.
42:05
Like I feel the same way. Like, we put ourselves in these
42:08
crazy situations and it's like there's a little part of your
42:10
brain that's like, wait, there it is, the song.
42:13
But that's going to eat. Then we hear it because now we
42:16
come to bedroom confessional and now we're here.
42:19
So this is a 5 track EP. I'm so curious like what made
42:23
you decide like you wanted to do this EP versus like another full
42:25
length around this concept, this project, this world?
42:29
Well, there was a couple of reasons.
42:31
The main reason is I don't really go into a project
42:36
thinking like, I want this to be a full album or I want this to
42:39
be an EP. I really just write and write
42:41
and make songs until I'm like, that's all that needs to be said
42:44
for this. That's exactly what I needed to
42:46
say. And I kind of, yeah, it's a
42:47
feeling. So with Bedroom Confessional I
42:51
the last song I made for it was the title track Bedroom
42:53
Confessional. Did you have the title prior to
42:54
making that song? No, OK, got it.
42:56
That title came to me. And like the title isn't even
43:00
said in that song. So that title came to me and I
43:03
was like, this just feels like such a title to me because these
43:06
really feel like a bedroom. Confessional to me.
43:08
Like something I would sit in bed and write in my diary and
43:11
hideaway and not want any. Of these types like thoughts
43:14
that you were saying that the things that people are ashamed
43:16
to like really publicly talk about, you're laying it all out
43:18
there. Exactly as if somebody stole my
43:21
diary and like posted it. That's kind of what I wanted
43:24
this to feel like. So yeah, I knew it was going to
43:26
be an EP because honestly, there just wasn't a need for it to be
43:30
a full length. I was like, I know exactly what
43:33
subjects I want to talk about. I knew I wanted to make a song
43:36
about the whole sex tape situation.
43:38
I knew I wanted to make a song about falling in love, which is
43:40
little pill about it being like an unrequited love.
43:43
I knew I wanted to make her because I mean, I made Valentine
43:47
on Pretty Evil, which is also about a similar situation.
43:50
But I feel like I didn't say everything that needed to be
43:52
said. There was more to be said and
43:54
then lip lock. I knew I wanted like I need to
43:56
show you lip lock because you'll really.
43:58
Like. It's like the most fun, like
44:00
diva, I'll I'll send you the other see that you don't have
44:03
but lip lock. I was like, I need to.
44:05
I really my it was I was being called to make something that
44:08
was just like fun and unserious. Like like, you know, when you
44:11
get a new crush for the first time, you're like, Oh my God,
44:14
like what should I text them? Like what should I say?
44:17
And then the title track to me is really the overarching theme
44:22
of the entire project, which really is just saying I will do
44:26
anything. I have done everything for you
44:29
to just like love me, just accept me.
44:31
Just not even in a romantic way, in like a public facing way.
44:35
Like be so devastating. I will bury it all like I'll
44:37
open the towel just like see every part of me.
44:40
You want to see the good, the bad, the ugly.
44:42
Please just like accept me, love me, like understand me.
44:46
And I feel like that's an emotion I've experienced my
44:48
whole life since I was like really young, honestly was like,
44:51
I've always felt like nobody really gets me, like nobody can
44:56
I try to explain myself to people.
44:57
And it seems to always like come across in a way that I don't
45:00
mean it to. And so I've always struggled
45:02
with that. And that has kind of been like
45:04
the overarching theme for the whole EP.
45:06
I love that and I think the intention behind it, like, and
45:09
these stories and everything that you're doing, like I hope
45:11
you know is so seen in the detail orientation of it.
45:14
I'm so excited to hear. I'm so excited to hear these new
45:17
songs too. Just like I already know I'm
45:19
going to gag. They were just so good.
45:20
I also like cohesion. You're really good at being
45:22
cohesive with your projects, of course, but like with this one,
45:25
I'm like, holy fuck. The elements and everything that
45:28
you're implementing and everything like ties together.
45:30
So we have sex tapes little pill and her.
45:34
So is there another one that's going to continue the saga
45:37
between all that there is? It is going to be a saga.
45:42
I'm going to have one more video coming out, so that'll kind of
45:45
be the closing chapter of this whole anthology that I've been.
45:49
Building. Do you know what comes after
45:51
that? I know as a fan I want more.
45:55
Of course, I mean, I already am working on the next music, so I
46:00
like to, I like to have things geared up.
46:02
Gagery. Oh my God.
46:04
Wait, you keep us fed. Thank you so much.
46:06
Of course. Well, I love, like, all the
46:08
visuals of it and everything that you're doing.
46:09
But with the EP cover, I love the pink of it and like all the
46:12
mattresses and the. I didn't know this.
46:15
I saw the video that you reposted, but the typography,
46:18
the text of it. Bedroom confessional.
46:20
That's hand embroidered. Yeah.
46:22
How sick is that? So sick.
46:23
Oh my God, the girl who did the embroidery is so talented.
46:26
She's also working on the merch designs for the new era.
46:29
But we will be we will be purchasing, you will be
46:32
receiving as a gift and I. Will be paying for it too.
46:35
No, you will not support. Independent artists.
46:37
But so true, we do support independent artists, but I knew
46:40
I wanted the text on I. I wanted the title on the album
46:46
cover, but I. Didn't want it to just.
46:48
Be No it didn't. I wanted to go very text list
46:50
for pretty evil in this era. I want to text.
46:53
The cover is based on a fairy tale.
46:54
The whole thing feels a little bit more like a little more
46:59
kitschy and whimsical. Yeah.
47:00
So I wanted that. But I was like, I've been really
47:03
into, like, people printing out images and then adding physical
47:07
elements and then scanning them, like with lace.
47:09
Yeah, the, the scrapbooking of it all.
47:11
Like if we're going with the diary theme and the scrapbook
47:13
theme, I was like, that's exactly what I want.
47:15
So I found this amazing artist and I asked her if she could do
47:18
it. And I mean, she fucking
47:19
delivered. She delivered it and.
47:21
Her reel about it was so cute. I'm like, I'm so glad you made
47:24
that. I was so fucking impressed.
47:25
I was like, there's no way because I love that it was
47:27
embroidered. I noticed that immediately when
47:28
you posted the cover. And then like seeing her doing
47:32
it, actually doing it, I was like, what the fuck?
47:34
I thought this was like a graphic.
47:37
No, I really didn't want it to be a graphic.
47:39
And that really makes it like more like this diary esque
47:42
thing, this real thing. We're even closer to your
47:44
bedroom, your diary, your confessional.
47:47
Oh my God, I love it. That is so good And I adore this
47:51
EB cover. I love the pink of it, I love
47:53
how you look on it and I love like exactly what the concept
47:56
is. But you got a lot of heat and
47:58
Flack from Mellie Martinez fans for the cover art of Bedroom
48:02
Confessional. So you're on a stack of
48:03
mattresses and Mellie Martinez for her new album.
48:06
Hades has a press photo of her also on mattresses.
48:10
And when you tweeted the photo of your EP cover, they really
48:13
came for you. What happened?
48:14
They did come for me, I mean. You love Melanie.
48:17
Yeah, let me preface this by saying I love like, it's not
48:20
like, oh, I like her, no. You've been, you've been a very
48:23
public fan of her forever. Forever like I have loved her
48:26
since before I was even making music myself.
48:28
Like when I found. I mean, I watched her on The
48:30
Voice, like when I found Cry Baby.
48:33
I'm sorry. Yeah, when I found Crybaby, the
48:35
album, the album that was literally one of the first
48:37
albums like that and like Pure Heroin by Lorde and like, yeah,
48:42
I'm blanking. But defining albums for you?
48:44
Literally defining albums for like my early teenage years.
48:47
Like that album shaped me and I've always accredited her to
48:50
being such a genius artist like she is.
48:53
She's literally a true trailblazer.
48:55
Like literally her artistic mind is fucking genius.
48:58
I'm such a. Conceptual Artist.
49:00
Such a conceptual artist, so like endless creativity.
49:03
So I'm a huge fan of her and I always have been.
49:05
I've never kept that a secret. But yeah, I did catch a lot of
49:09
heat. It's really unfortunate.
49:10
I think it's the timing of it all.
49:12
I mean, I planned my shoot for the EP before she had posted
49:17
that photo on Instagram and I I wasn't aware of the photo until
49:20
after. As soon as I saw it, I knew I
49:22
mean, I was going to, but it is based on a fairy tale.
49:25
I mean, you can search. I mean, you can search Princess
49:28
and the P photo shoot on Pinterest right now and there
49:30
will be hundreds of of different references of people doing it.
49:34
And I love fairy tales. I've been inspired by fairy
49:37
tales for a lot of my career. I have a whole EP called Letting
49:39
the Wolf In where the whole video is based on like
49:42
Cinderella and Snow White and I. I have a song called Wicked
49:45
Witch of the West Side. Like I am a fairy tale girl.
49:47
I have the first episode. You're into fairy.
49:49
Tales I have the Grimm's The Brothers Grimm fairy tale
49:53
hardcover book in my house. I have the Christian Hans
49:55
Anderson fairy tale book in my house.
49:57
Like I just love a fairy tale. So the Princess and the P The
50:01
reason I was is inspired by that fairy tale for this is because
50:04
the EP is called Bedroom Confessional and what better way
50:07
to represent that than by me being on a million beds.
50:10
And I even wanted to like have the through line of putting the
50:14
red wig of her and. The GIMP suit.
50:16
In the mattress, because it's like these are the things that
50:20
have been part of the storyline of my project.
50:23
But I knew I was once I saw her photo and the timing of it all
50:27
and how soon mine came out after hers and just the.
50:31
What was it? Everything you had planned Like
50:33
you can't. Shift, but I don't think fans
50:35
realize that that like you plan things far in advance like.
50:39
It's not like spontaneous. It's not like I saw the photo
50:41
and like ran to go like do my cover art.
50:44
And then also I knew I was going to catch hate for it.
50:46
But also I think people failed to realize like I'm an indie
50:49
artist. I pay for these shoots out of my
50:51
very own bank account, out of my wallet when the shoots already
50:55
done. And it's a gag and I'm obsessed
50:57
with how it came out. I can't just like scrap a whole
51:00
shoe that cost thousands of dollars and then go and spend
51:04
more thousands of dollars to recreate a shit.
51:06
You have to do it quickly in the 11th hour.
51:08
It was slated for release already.
51:09
Everything was turned for dish. So I think there's a lot of
51:12
things fans don't consider in that type of situation.
51:17
But I mean, honestly, as long as the queen herself, Melanie is
51:20
not offended, I I don't really care what anyone else thinks.
51:23
I think they're two very different takes on a classic
51:26
fairy tale, and I think hers is such a gag.
51:29
I think I was so beautiful, beautifully done as all her
51:31
visuals are, but I think mine was done very differently it.
51:34
Is very different. I feel like you're literally
51:36
outside too. Like there's I feel like the
51:38
vibe and aesthetic of it, like the similarity is just basically
51:42
just like the reference of the Princess of the Pea.
51:44
Yeah. That's the only thing I would
51:45
leave it as. And honestly, hers isn't even
51:46
like her album cover. It's a part of like this era for
51:49
Hades. But you know, if it was the
51:51
album. Cover if it was her album cover,
51:53
I would have ran and done another photo shoot.
51:55
That would have been too crazy. But you know, it's like the
51:58
timing of it all. And I think just the fact that
52:00
it's me specifically because I've I've caught in some hate in
52:04
the past for like people saying I copy her or whatever.
52:07
And like, again, I'm very inspired by her.
52:09
That's no. Secret.
52:10
Even 911, which is my biggest song.
52:13
I wrote that originally like hoping maybe there was a chance.
52:17
It's like she would see it and want to release it herself.
52:20
Like I love her. I've never been shy about saying
52:24
that. So I wish the crybabies would
52:27
layoff me a little bit because I'm literally like.
52:30
Honestly at this point too, because like Delulu alum Lolo's
52:33
album covers also inspired by The Princess and the Pea and she
52:36
talks about it on the show, but I think it's exactly that.
52:38
I think it's the timing of your you putting out your project and
52:41
she just released those images as well.
52:43
It's super random and unfortunate, but obviously you
52:47
love her. You're not trying to, you're not
52:48
trying to RIP her off. No, never trying to RIP her off.
52:50
Never trying to RIP anyone off. Honestly, so like where you were
52:54
of your career originally, your biggest song you mentioned with
52:56
being 911 to where you are now with the new music and
52:59
everything, do you ever feel like the pressure of living up
53:01
to that song before everything you're doing now?
53:04
Like, how does that feel, especially just being like in
53:06
the industry for so long? I definitely feel the pressure.
53:10
I think having a big song like that is definitely a blessing,
53:14
but it can also sometimes be a bit of a curse because, you
53:18
know, I can have the amount of success I'm having now, which
53:22
I'm very happy about and like, very grateful for.
53:25
But I think there will always be that expectation put upon me by
53:28
other people that's like, Oh well, she's had this massive
53:32
moment, like she's had this number.
53:34
So if something doesn't reach that level, it can almost seem
53:38
like a failure. Whereas maybe with someone else
53:41
who's like a newer artist who's like starting out when?
53:43
These are amazing exactly so good like everyone pay attention
53:47
like. You can only be a new artist
53:48
once. So, you know, no one's going to
53:50
write about me and be like new upcoming artist, Elise.
53:52
Like that's just not the position I'm in.
53:54
And so I think the expectations for me are just set differently
53:58
and higher because I've had this really massive song, which
54:02
again, so grateful to have had it.
54:04
Like, I know many people don't even ever get to have a song
54:08
that big. And that song changed my life.
54:09
Like, I will never hate on 911. That song literally really
54:13
changed my life. But I think it does create this
54:16
level of expectation. And it's hard sometimes.
54:19
I definitely sometimes compare myself to my previous self at
54:26
that time and like things that were going on.
54:27
And I always say this to like my mom or or friends.
54:31
I'm like, if I was as mature and, you know, well versed in
54:35
the industry as I am now at that time, I think I would have known
54:39
how to handle that moment a lot better.
54:42
But it's crazy because maybe that was like a technically a
54:46
peak the time of my career, but that was the lowest low I was
54:51
ever experiencing in my own self and my personal life.
54:54
And so the two together, it was like I was on this career high,
54:58
but simultaneously I was losing friends left and right.
55:01
I was in a horrifically abusive relationship.
55:03
I was struggling with mental things that were really like
55:08
impeding my growth on a level where like I, I felt like I
55:12
couldn't even get out of bed a lot of days.
55:14
And it's, it's interesting too, because I feel like when you
55:16
have a moment like that and you start to going back to the
55:20
jealousy thing. When you start to have a moment
55:22
like that and you start to have success, you really quickly see
55:27
what people are really in your life because they love you and
55:31
they're here for you. And you really quickly see what
55:33
people start to feel that jealousy or start to cling
55:37
closer to you because they want they want to suck the lifeout of
55:40
you for. That moment very LA.
55:42
Very LA Yeah. And it taught me a lot having
55:45
that song, because it really taught me about the social
55:48
dynamics of of LA and of the industry we're in.
55:51
I never had experienced anything like that before.
55:54
And I saw a very fat and I like to think I'm a very good hearted
55:58
person and I like to see the best in people.
56:00
Like somebody. I'm a I'm a bit more jaded now.
56:03
But yeah, at the time I was so baby and I was just, I thought
56:07
everyone was good. I thought everyone was.
56:09
Everyone has your back and everyone loves you and wants to
56:11
support you and they don't want anything but just good things
56:13
for you. But really it's like.
56:14
It's ulterior motive. It's there's a lot of ulterior
56:17
motive. Jealousy too.
56:18
Yeah. So it was a very interesting
56:20
experience, which I'm grateful for because I learned a lot from
56:23
it. I I learned so much from it and
56:27
it definitely shaped me into who I am today.
56:29
It built a thick skin. But yeah, it's, it's a weird,
56:31
bittersweet thing having a song like that, because I feel like
56:34
it can kind of almost be this big cloud over everything else
56:38
where when people see me or, you know, somebody's trying to book
56:41
me for something or whatever it is.
56:43
Like it's almost like, oh, well, she has this and this is way
56:47
bigger than anything she's doing now.
56:48
So right now, now she's actually not doing as well.
56:52
And it's like not every song can be your biggest song.
56:56
Yeah, but like, I will confidently say, like the music
56:58
right now with this EP and the singles that you put out, this
57:01
is, I would say confidently, this is your best work.
57:03
I fucking love it. And I also love that you said it
57:06
earlier. Like you're in a really great
57:07
place in your life right now too.
57:09
And it's so nice because like you can really have it all.
57:11
You can have like enjoying where you are with your music and your
57:14
career and all such as in your life.
57:16
And I think I relate to that so much.
57:19
When I have my career highs, that is where I feel my
57:22
loneliest, my most, like depressive espresso.
57:25
Like that's when I feel the worst about myself.
57:26
That's when I get really paranoid.
57:27
I get jumpy at everyone. I get like very much like, Oh my
57:29
God, who's trying to use me or latch on to me for XYZ.
57:32
And it's just like, it's such a turbulent mental space.
57:34
So that's intense. And then you're very much in
57:37
that moment, like very public facing.
57:39
What's next? We're all watching you now.
57:41
Like, that's so much pressure. And if I'm honest with you, I
57:45
prefer the mental space I'm in now with maybe not having a
57:50
viral moment to having a viral moment, but having literal,
57:54
like, suicidal ideation every day.
57:56
I'm. I think there's so much more to
57:58
life than just doing well in my career.
58:01
And my career is extremely important to me, but it's not
58:04
everything. And I would much rather take the
58:06
position I'm in now where I feel healthy.
58:09
I'm taking care of myself. I'm not, you know, in the place
58:12
I was too. Yeah.
58:14
And, you know, I think music is always going to find and its
58:17
way, like music lives forever once you put it out.
58:19
I mean, even 911 didn't start getting traction or blowing up
58:22
at all until almost two years after it came out.
58:24
So I think these songs, I agree. Thank you for saying that.
58:28
And I agree, I think these are the best songs I've ever made.
58:30
And I do believe, like, they will find their moment and they
58:33
will find like, what they're meant to find.
58:35
The people who are meant to find them will find them.
58:39
And yeah, I, I definitely do sometimes compare myself to the
58:42
911 version of myself. But then I quickly remember how
58:46
sad she was and how much she was struggling.
58:49
And I'm like, no, this is a much better position to be in this.
58:52
Is better, it's a better position, it's healthier for
58:54
you. And honestly, the music, like
58:56
the fan reactions, like I'm telling you, like my whole
58:58
lesbian GIMP person theory came from the Commons.
59:02
Like they had their theories and I was like, they're so into and
59:05
they're so into the world. And that's the biggest blessing
59:07
to for these people to rally so hard behind you and your art and
59:11
your lyric and being excited for what's coming next and like
59:13
you're really giving it back with the visuals and everything
59:16
you're doing in the music. Like you're you're really
59:17
delivering. So like you genuinely did earn
59:19
all that love and support like it is so excellent.
59:22
I really do have like the sweetest, most non-toxic fan
59:25
base. Like I especially when I'm on
59:28
tour and I'm in the room with everyone, I can really feel like
59:30
this strong sense of love and just like community.
59:33
And I'm really like lucky to have the fan base I have because
59:37
there are a lot of fandoms that can be very like toxic and I
59:40
love the fans. I love the.
59:41
Ones that you're they become friends with each other.
59:44
They're all like that's about people meet at my shows and
59:46
become friends. Like it makes me so genuinely
59:49
happy and I like to think that I am trying to like lead with love
59:53
and they all really fit into that.
59:55
And I I think and community and like obviously they're.
59:58
Rallying behind something so special, like, and I'm so, so
1:00:01
excited about this project and excited to hear the rest of it.
1:00:04
And like I feel very empowered by it and just inspired by it in
1:00:06
general. Like from you've been telling me
1:00:08
about it a few months ago, I've heard nothing of it other than
1:00:11
you describing it to me to like actually having the music out
1:00:13
Now I'm like, damn bitch, you did it.
1:00:15
You took it there. You really fucking took it
1:00:18
there. I love it so much.
1:00:20
Well, obviously you and I. Have gone super.
1:00:22
Super fucking close and I love that for us.
1:00:24
But you know, with everything talking about with the pressures
1:00:27
of the industry and just being in like a public facing career,
1:00:31
like a lot of things are said and a lot of rumors have been
1:00:34
going around. I just want to take an
1:00:35
opportunity right now to clear this up with you.
1:00:37
We cleared up the Melanie thing, but we got the sense into the
1:00:41
Duluth PR team this morning from Duluth Daily.
1:00:44
So I didn't read it yet. I just thought maybe we would
1:00:47
just talk about together, clear the air if there's an issue or
1:00:50
anything. We had an allegation before.
1:00:54
Maybe you're ripping off the concept of my second season,
1:00:56
Delulu After Dark. And we, we, we worked it out.
1:00:59
We worked it out. We worked it out.
1:01:00
I'm still a little traumatized but we worked.
1:01:02
It out it's OK like. Honestly, I I.
1:01:04
Try not to look back at that part.
1:01:06
Of our history, we've come so far.
1:01:07
We've come so far, we've come so far.
1:01:09
Let's see if we're going to get. Past this.
1:01:11
So this came in from Delulu Daily this morning.
1:01:14
What's going on? Delulu Daily exclusive.
1:01:19
Pretty Evil star Elise seems pretty obsessed with Delulu
1:01:22
podcast host Ryan Liu. Sources are claiming that the
1:01:26
subject of Elise's new song her might not be so mysterious after
1:01:30
all, with insiders pointing straight at the Lulu podcast
1:01:34
host Ryan Liu clock. According to whispers, Elise has
1:01:38
been. Obsessed.
1:01:39
Allegedly thinking about Ryan 24/7 and even plotting her
1:01:43
recent return to the show just to be around him again.
1:01:45
Clock with lyrics like baby she's she's so pretty.
1:01:48
It couldn't be more obvious that Ryan is the muse.
1:01:51
Delulu Daily has reached out to Ryan for comment and Ryan said
1:01:54
IDK if she doesn't get over me I'm going to go Chapel Rd. on
1:01:57
her ass. Oh my God, I'm sweating.
1:02:01
Elise, girl, I have to confess. Bedroom.
1:02:04
Confessional. Give it to us.
1:02:07
My bedroom confessional for you right now, yes.
1:02:11
I was watching the podcast. I was.
1:02:13
Stalking you from my fake account until 3:00 AM the night
1:02:18
last night before I came here, I was hoping this wouldn't come
1:02:22
out. I mean, and I know and I know
1:02:24
who the sources. I know who the sources and I'll
1:02:27
be having a word with them. But you're right, you're right.
1:02:29
I mean, you should take it as a form of flattery.
1:02:31
I'm I'm flattered and just like damn.
1:02:35
Oh my gosh, I am I the muse for for her.
1:02:39
You're the muse for her. That's what I thought.
1:02:42
That's. What I thought I was enjoying
1:02:43
the. Song I thought you would.
1:02:44
I thought you would kind of get the hint because.
1:02:46
I feel like I I like casted someone who kind of looks
1:02:51
similar to you. Like literally that was me.
1:02:53
I was like, like if you put on a red.
1:02:55
Wig. That was literally me.
1:02:57
And I was like, that's twin. And honestly, when I was
1:03:01
listening to the song and I was like, didn't think anything of
1:03:03
it. But then we got to the outro
1:03:05
baby, she's so pretty. I was like, and I was like, Oh
1:03:09
my God. Well, I hope.
1:03:11
Here's what. I here's my hope.
1:03:13
Hold my hand, I hope you can take it as a compliment.
1:03:16
I do, because it really is 1. I love you and I know what I
1:03:21
know what Rat leaked this info and I'll be having a word with
1:03:26
them. But you were my muse.
1:03:28
This is my bedroom confessional to you.
1:03:30
You're the muse of her. Honestly, I'm flattered because
1:03:34
that is such a banger. Thank you.
1:03:36
Honestly, I know you know what? And yeah, and yes.
1:03:38
It's a great song, so you're welcome.
1:03:40
Thank you. I'm honestly so flattered.
1:03:42
I love. It well, I'm not going to Chapel
1:03:44
Row in you don't worry. Please don't.
1:03:46
I'm so scared. I'm scared.
1:03:49
Of her, I love her. She's a queen.
1:03:51
No Chapel Roan hate here. Please do not come for us.
1:03:53
You're like, no more fandoms, please no more.
1:03:57
You could only take one at a time.
1:03:58
Sensitive girl like I cry. A lot please.
1:04:02
Oh my God, I'm just kidding. I'm a row inator.
1:04:04
A row inator. I'm a Chapel a cha.
1:04:08
A Cha. Cha you, I'm a chappy.
1:04:10
We're chappies. Chappies for life.
1:04:13
No, I I love that. Thank you so much like honestly
1:04:15
and to delulu daily, like please just leave us alone.
1:04:19
We want to have a normal life, like the paparazzi, like delulu.
1:04:23
Daily needs to chill, needs to chill like and if her is about
1:04:26
me, I'm not. Mad about it.
1:04:28
Like I'm really not. My album's about you.
1:04:32
The response? The response coming soon, coming
1:04:35
soon, coming soon. Well, I hope it's.
1:04:38
Nice. It's her is very nice.
1:04:40
Her is so flattering. Yes.
1:04:42
It's. Flattering it's.
1:04:43
So flattering. And then honestly.
1:04:45
Casting a look alike in your. Music video kind of camp, kind
1:04:48
of camp. I like that looking camp right
1:04:52
in. The eye period, OK.
1:04:54
Well, I'm glad that we were squashed that again, I don't
1:04:57
want any more problems like daily.
1:04:59
Hopefully the basement they get run out of collapses.
1:05:02
So for the next time you come on the show, OK, Well, at least
1:05:07
honestly, you have been so grown and mature.
1:05:09
We've talked about so much on this episode and like genuinely,
1:05:12
even from talking to before you're coming from a better
1:05:15
place frontal lobe fully developed sat in return all of
1:05:18
that we have some best Dianas who are looking to us for some
1:05:21
advice. This is WW ADD what would did
1:05:23
Lou girl do so we're just going to give them our best to Lulu
1:05:27
take and heal Some people do some therapy.
1:05:31
You know how it is. OK first question from anonymous
1:05:33
bestie. My boyfriend hasn't talked to me
1:05:35
for the past month. We technically haven't broken up
1:05:38
but does that mean we're broken up Yes absolutely.
1:05:41
If you don't talk to me for like 2 1/2 days, we're.
1:05:42
Done a month. A month.
1:05:44
Let me say something to the camera.
1:05:46
If your boyfriend ignores you unless.
1:05:48
Listen, this isn't a blanket statement.
1:05:51
Crazy things happen. But in 99% of situations, if you
1:05:55
have a boyfriend and he ignores you for even one full day.
1:05:58
One full day. That is not your boyfriend.
1:06:00
That is not your boyfriend. That's.
1:06:01
An op that's. Literally your enemy.
1:06:03
He is plotting against. You he is plotting against you.
1:06:06
1,000,000% that's crazy. A month?
1:06:08
A month? I agree you're broken.
1:06:10
Up I you're. For sure broke up.
1:06:12
You're broken up and it wasn't that serious to begin with.
1:06:15
Apparently not. And you know what girl you
1:06:18
should get? Revenge.
1:06:19
I would act on it. I would act on it.
1:06:21
You can lick Jolly Ranchers and then stick them.
1:06:24
To a car and they RIP the paint off you you pulled that out real
1:06:30
quick just. A little something I learned
1:06:33
along the way. Oh yeah.
1:06:35
Sure. OK, Jolly Rancher.
1:06:36
Girl, OK, that was good. We're so healed.
1:06:40
We're so healed. We're so healed.
1:06:41
We're so mature. Here's another.
1:06:43
One my boyfriend. Doesn't want to see me when I'm
1:06:44
sick. Should I dump him?
1:06:47
Dump his ass. Yes, OK, I have mixed feelings
1:06:51
because. There's so many.
1:06:53
Instances here. What if like?
1:06:54
You have COVID and your boyfriend has to like, go to
1:06:57
work and like, has bills to pay and can't catch.
1:06:59
Like do I think your boyfriend should be taking care of you
1:07:02
when you're sick? See, we have to come from a more
1:07:05
healed mindset that you're so grown at least like you're
1:07:08
genuinely grown. You're genuinely if.
1:07:11
You have a little cold. And your boyfriend's not down to
1:07:13
catch a cold. From you girl.
1:07:16
Yeah, but like. If you have.
1:07:18
Something and let's say like he has a prior commitment that he
1:07:21
needs to be well for and needs to be healthy for.
1:07:24
I kind of get it. Like me personally, if I had to
1:07:27
like go on tour and my well that makes someone sick, I'm not
1:07:31
going to go well. How do we know her boyfriend's
1:07:33
not a pop *? OK, Ed Sheeran.
1:07:35
Clock Ed Sheeran Ed Sheeran. He can afford a few weeks off.
1:07:38
Sorry, she can. OK, bad example.
1:07:40
Bad example. OK, that's fair.
1:07:43
You were very. Mature I feel like for me, if I
1:07:47
when my boyfriend is sick and I don't want to get I really don't
1:07:49
want to get sick I hate getting sick because I work so much I
1:07:52
still would go I think oh I mean if my boyfriend had the flu I.
1:07:57
Would tongue kiss him so but that's just me.
1:08:00
But I can understand like why someone wouldn't want to right,
1:08:03
right, right, right right right. I'm like, you can spit my mouth.
1:08:06
Like, it's fine, right? Of course.
1:08:08
Of course, but, but you're also coming from place of.
1:08:10
Empathy. Yes, I got it.
1:08:11
I'm an empath, right? Same ZS, same.
1:08:13
ZS same. ZS OK.
1:08:15
So we have another one. This is our last one.
1:08:17
Anonymous Bessie asked. My girlfriend's coworker is very
1:08:20
hot and I'm spiraling. Should I be worried?
1:08:23
My girlfriend's coworker is really hot.
1:08:24
I'm spiraling. This is giving her.
1:08:27
It is giving her. This is giving her, but it's
1:08:29
giving her from like. The opposite.
1:08:31
Perspective it's giving. Him my girlfriend's Co so.
1:08:35
Basically you find him dating. A girl and yeah, and you find
1:08:39
the coworker. Well.
1:08:42
You need to search inside yourself.
1:08:43
Because why do you have eyes for someone else when you're in a
1:08:46
relationship? I think I think the context is
1:08:48
that they're worried the. Girlfriend would find the Co
1:08:50
worker attractive. Oh, so we're a little insecure
1:08:56
they're obsessing over them? That requires an honest
1:09:01
conversation, I think. I would just like accuse them of
1:09:04
something and like start a big. Fight I personally would,
1:09:07
because then here here's my logic.
1:09:08
It's not toxic guys. I promise it's not toxic.
1:09:10
Here's my logic. When you accuse them and start a
1:09:12
fight, then you see their reaction.
1:09:14
And if it really is nothing to be worried about, they'll, like,
1:09:16
reacts appropriately. You know what I mean?
1:09:18
But like, if it is something to worry about, then it's like, OK,
1:09:20
let's address it, you know, now we're here.
1:09:22
Yeah. Does that make sense?
1:09:23
I mean, I've definitely done that.
1:09:25
Like I'm not not guilty of that, but I would say an even more
1:09:29
mature way would just be like, hey, your coworker, super baddy,
1:09:34
super baddy. Do you love me?
1:09:36
Like, are we good? Or is this?
1:09:38
Solid. Do I have anything to be worried
1:09:40
about, Bestie? Are we fantasizing about what
1:09:43
it's like to be this coworker? Is the question.
1:09:45
Yeah, I guess I'm a little confused on the the context,
1:09:48
baby. She's so pretty.
1:09:49
Yeah. Just fucking kill me.
1:09:52
That's the answer, girl. That's the answer.
1:09:54
That's actually. That's so complicated, honestly.
1:09:56
It is very her, very her core. It is.
1:09:59
God, what a fucking great song. Thank you.
1:10:01
Of course. I can't wait to send you lip
1:10:03
lock and bedroom confession. I'm so.
1:10:05
Excited so you said that lip lock is like just it's like fun
1:10:07
and. More casual.
1:10:08
It's very calm. Delulu.
1:10:09
I'm sorry, delulu. It's very delulu.
1:10:13
We'll give it You got delulu sometimes.
1:10:15
That's the. Only word that we can use.
1:10:17
There's not a synonym. I was literally telling Brett he
1:10:19
edits it. And I was telling him I was
1:10:21
like, I'm. So sorry for all the comments.
1:10:22
Sometimes there's no other word. I'm so sorry for all the what
1:10:29
it's have to give it. Sorry and it's and then bedroom
1:10:34
confessional. I'm like, you have to play them
1:10:36
for me. OK, I'm so excited.
1:10:38
And actually, before we wrap the show, So after bedroom
1:10:41
confessional drops and then the final, the final video of a saga
1:10:46
finishes the storyline. Like what can fans expect?
1:10:49
Like, are we going to continue the bedroom confessional era?
1:10:51
Are we moving into something different?
1:10:52
Like what are we thinking? We might be able to continue the
1:10:55
bedroom confessional. Era, I am thinking a bit about a
1:10:59
little a little deluxe, little deluxe version.
1:11:03
OK, so potentially that and what else can fans expect?
1:11:07
I would say more touring this year.
1:11:09
LALA, Los Angeles, yes. Hopefully.
1:11:13
Europe this. Year, OK.
1:11:15
And. Never have toured in Europe yet
1:11:16
so that's definitely a goal for this year Clocky and just a lot
1:11:20
more music I'm I'm really thinking about being in my
1:11:22
Halloween bag again this year no way because you skipped it last
1:11:25
year and the year before and it's.
1:11:27
Time. I think it's time.
1:11:28
No way returning to the. Roots, yeah.
1:11:31
The original. Dark Pop, I miss it.
1:11:33
I don't think it would be Dark Pop this time.
1:11:35
What? Are we thinking I bedroom
1:11:36
confessional this type like? World.
1:11:38
I think it might be something a little different.
1:11:40
I don't want to spill too. Much.
1:11:41
But wait a minute, Elise. It won't be classic Elise.
1:11:44
Halloween EP. Like it'll be something.
1:11:46
It'll be the new version. It'll be like this new artist
1:11:48
version of you, Yeah. We're so excited.
1:11:51
I just remembered something. What?
1:11:53
I have a spooky ass song I need to show you.
1:11:55
Please show me. Let's go to the studio.
1:11:57
I'm going to. We're going to go to the studio.
1:11:58
I'm going to play it for you. No, you're the.
1:12:00
Trailblazer, you are actually the Trailblazer.
1:12:02
Oh, my gosh, I'm so excited. OK, OK, yes.
1:12:06
Wait. Yes.
1:12:07
OK, Come on. Come on.
1:12:08
OK, Elise, we close out every show by manifesting together.
1:12:12
Is there anything you want to speak into existence right here.
1:12:15
On to Lulu again. You since the last time you're
1:12:18
on the show, you've been having a very good existence.
1:12:21
So good track record. What else do you want to speak
1:12:24
out into the world right now? I want to speak this for all of
1:12:28
us, everyone in the room. And everyone watching, I want to
1:12:32
manifest that 2026 is a year of prosperity for everyone watching
1:12:37
and everyone in this room, but more importantly, a year of
1:12:40
inner peace and self love. And I know those sound basic,
1:12:44
but I really feel like those are the foundations of prosperity.
1:12:47
So if we can manifest inner peace and self love, we can
1:12:49
manifest a beautiful year, a prosperous year.
1:12:52
And that's what I want. Poetic and beautiful.
1:12:55
And I'm claiming I. Very much want peace right now.
1:12:58
Feel like there's been a lot of chaos recently.
1:13:01
So yes, manifesting peace just like peace like peace, and quiet
1:13:07
like everybody. Yeah, just just a minute, just a
1:13:11
little. A little shut the fuck a moment
1:13:14
from like the two biggest yappers.
1:13:17
Oh my God, we need to do that. Tour we'll just the.
1:13:19
App we'll just the app we'll just fucking literally we can
1:13:22
just set chairs. On stage and yeah it.
1:13:23
Would be so. Fucking dumb like people would
1:13:25
love that. I loved it before we even
1:13:27
started filming. We were talking about so many
1:13:29
like. So much shit that would never
1:13:30
make the show. It's like, but I was like, damn,
1:13:34
we had to have our little queen out.
1:13:35
We had to have a queen out. That's.
1:13:37
What I was looking forward to. I feel like we have a really
1:13:39
great time on the show, but before the show, every time,
1:13:41
every time you've come just Oh my God, we have the best time.
1:13:45
We get into it. Oh, we talk, girl.
1:13:48
OK, I'm claiming all of that for all of us, too.
1:13:51
And Elise, thank you so much for coming on the show again.
1:13:54
Third time. It's going to be a fourth time.
1:13:56
Let's keep racking it up. Let's keep racking it up,
1:13:57
please. I love it.
1:13:59
Thank you. I'm.
1:13:59
Obsessed. Thank you so much for having me.
1:14:01
I literally told Charlie I wanted you back on the show
1:14:03
again. He was like it might.
1:14:04
Be too soon. It was like a couple months ago
1:14:06
and then I was like, and she was like, he was like closest to the
1:14:08
EP release and he was like, we'll see if she even wants, you
1:14:11
know, I was like, no, I, I literally told Charlie really I
1:14:14
wanted to go back on to. This was this was written in the
1:14:17
stars. Oh my God.
1:14:18
Good, good, good, good. You're like, I think you're.
1:14:21
The only person we have recurring, Yeah, you were gone.
1:14:24
You're on tour, but you came back with stories.
1:14:26
That's what we want. You know what's crazy?
1:14:28
We shot you October 1st. Today is March 20.
1:14:31
Whatever. It's been months and we're damn
1:14:34
like, we've really filled those gaps.
1:14:37
So much has happened. I'm so proud of you.
1:14:38
Especially like having the intention of putting out this EP
1:14:40
and like literally doing it. Thank you.
1:14:42
And like doing it. Well, thank you.
1:14:44
Holy shit. In the music video I see that
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it's happening. I'm like wow.
1:14:47
Yeah, last time we talked, it was all.
1:14:48
Just like not even beginning yet.
1:14:51
Yes, you were just like, well, what's next for me is and now
1:14:53
it's like now. It's here now, it's now we're
1:14:55
doing it. And next time I see you, there
1:14:58
will be so many. Other things?
1:15:00
OK, maybe I'll have a boyfriend. Is that what we want?
1:15:04
Maybe. OK, we'll see Single era ending.
1:15:06
Single Era. Might be ending OK.
1:15:08
But it's too early to tell. Too early to tell girl.
1:15:11
Holy shit. Well, thank you so much for
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being. Here and.
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Besties thank you so much for listening.
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Elise ELLISE and they can listen to me on Spotify or anywhere
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channel and guys Bedroom Confessional the EP is.
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Out now if this episode comes out after April 10th, which it
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will be so it is out now. Please everyone stream it.
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I literally mean it. If you like my taste, if you
1:15:49
like what I like, you're going to love this project.
1:15:52
I love the simp pop of it and I love like.
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It's just also just feels Moody in the lyric and just the world
1:15:58
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like the. Past.
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Year. Meets That's four more men I've
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kissed in the past years. That's crazy because like
1:16:36
literally it was it was performative too, which is
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because like I had like a bunch of men with me and they were
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like, oh, that'd be hot. And I was like great, perfect.
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Fuck it. Love to do it for the male gaze.
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No, I literally. Told Parrish.
1:16:48
She was my first kiss of the year when we kissed in the
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video. That was my first kiss of 2026.
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