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Kings Of The Asylum With TODD CAMPBELL From PHIL CAMPBELL & THE BASTARD SONS · HEAVY Music Interviews

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If you've been sleeping on Phil Campbell and the Bastard Sons, here's what's up.
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You might recognize Phil's name as the guitarist for the Mighty Motorhead. After
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the death of iconic frontman Lammy in twenty fifteen, Phil Campbell and the Bastard
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Sons emerged, comprised of Phil's actual sons Todd, Dane and Tyler, originally
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with Neil Starr on vocal duties. They now have Joel Peters as their singer
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and a permanent member, and they've just released their third studio album, Kings
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of the Asylum. I'm as and Today on the Heavy Podcast, I will
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be speaking with Todd Campbell about the new album and what it's like to be
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a part of Phil Campbell and the Bastard Sons. Check it out. Shock
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Hi, Todd's, Welcome to the Heavy Podcast. How is your Friday treating
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you really good? We played our album release show last night in a club
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in the valley in the in the Welsh Valleys, so it went really well.
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So I'm on a bit of a high this morning from that. How
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long does the performance dopamine normally last for you? Before you set it's a
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nightmare trying to get to sleep normally, that's always a problem, like two
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in the morning, like can I can I just switch off and our sort
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of thing. But yeah, and then I don't know. We're going to
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go to the me and my little dog to the beach this weekend, so
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I think I'm just going to carry her on through sort of thing, trying
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to have to continue the dopamine. Yeah, yeah, good vibes. Yeah,
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the album's been out for is it's just six days now? I guess
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today's the week? I guess, yeah, Friday, Yeah, seven days
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today. Yeah, So whereabouts was the launch show? In a club called
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The Patriots in a town called Krummlin. It's just we were we went to
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see Sherry Curry from The Runaways there a few months ago. It's yeah,
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and like Phil's friends with it and we sort of like hang out and stuff,
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and we've just been really cool to like play a venue we've never played,
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you know, just fill it out sort of thing, and like and
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I think they're like a community based venue as well sort of thing. So
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it's like waiting for the community. So yeah, it's kind of cool to
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kind of do that and have a warm up show with play some new songs
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we've never played before. It's always a bit of a bit nerve racking.
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Yeah. Yeah, so everyone last night was essentially guinea pigs to a degree.
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Yeah we didn't didn't tell them that, but yet you never do.
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Well, we've got you on board tonight to give us the low down on
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your band, Phil Campbell and the Bastard Sons, of which you are one
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of. Said bastard sons yea, more specifically the bastard son in charge of
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guitar. Yeah, and yeah, like we said, you've just released an
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album which we'll get into, but would you first mind giving the listeners a
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quick rundown on the bar and just for anyone who might be slightly behind the
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eight bowl on who you guys are and what you're about. Yeah, well,
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I guess Phil was obviously the guitarist of like Motorhead for a long long
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time. And yeah, and we used to jam with even from like really
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young when he'd come out and he'd play pubs with his mates, and like
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we'd go up on stage and jam sort of thing, like me and my
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two other brothers, Dane and Tyler. And then a few years I guess
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before Lenny passed, we started playing still doing like covers. Most seriously,
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there was like a party band sort of thing, like doing a little mini
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tours like we would call like the All Star band at that point. And
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then and then we just slowly morphed into like the Bastard Sons doing original material
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and like it's just like a good outlet for Phil now that he you know,
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he doesn't have motor heads, and we do it as a family thing,
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and like, you know, it's we're really busy. We play all
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the festivals in Europe and things, and like we're on nuclear blast. It's
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just it's gone like way further than we ever imagined to be honest sort of
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thing. But we're just riding the vibe, I guess, and enjoy enjoying
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ourselves and just trying to make the best music we can sort of thing.
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So you never set out to sort of conquer the world. It was more
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about just making music for the joy of it. But it organically sort of
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built up and it's like a family, yeah, family business sort of thing
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now that we're all I wanted to ask about that. No, I wasn't
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sure whether I should excuse myself for using the term of family band. No,
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it's cool. Yeah, how does it go? Do you find that
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it makes things easier or is it more chaotic or does that just depend on
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the day. Yeah, it definitely depends on the day. I mean,
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it's like it's like going on a family holiday, like every week, every
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day, like every you know, those crazy family holidays, like every festival
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is like one of those sort of things. But I think actually eventually it's
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loads of times. I think like you kind of a grievances quicker because it's
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your family than like I've been in lots of bands and like, you know,
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if there's like an issue, sometimes you won't you know, you won't
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bring it up perhaps and then three weeks later it blows up into some sort
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of mess. But like if it's your family, and like say say I
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played shipped or someone played you know, and he'd be like, oh you
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were craped tonight, and they're like, well you were crap as well,
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and then you're like next day you just carry on with it, jo Iman.
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You have your little TIFFs, but like I think from the outside,
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people looking and it's like what's going on you But it's just like you know,
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brothers are having a little brotherly rawl orever and then the next day you
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just move on just like you know, Yes, so effectively it would it
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sounds like it would make things easier. Then, yeah, I think it
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might not look like that sometimes if you're on the outside. But yeah,
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it's just you know, you know, so, yeah, it's all good,
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all you know, functional chaos. Yeah. Yeah. So obviously,
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after what thirty something years of a career in motorhead, your dad Phil is
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a veteran of the industry, and so I imagine that makes him a well
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of knowledge and a really handy person to have to be in a bandwidth and
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you know, he's got tons of experience under his belt and connections and whatnot.
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But what are some of the things that the bastard sons have had to
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school him on? Oh, I don't know, playing small venues again,
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you're playing clubs now, bring him down a peg or two. Yeah.
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Yeah, it's like, oh, we've gotta fly, we gotta fly easy
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Jet this weekend, first class anymore. I haven't had to teach him how
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to use TikTok or anything like that. Oh no, you know, we
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we do. We do a bit of Facebook and bit of Instagram, we
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haven't quite gone over to the TikTok generation yet. I think we're all right.
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Yeah, he doesn't like we do little videos. I don't think any
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of us feel lack comfortable doing videos, but it's like you have to do
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it nowadays, a new sort of thing. Yeah, it's the nature of
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the beast. Yeah, yeah, yess, little things like that. I
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mean, he's, you know, he's pretty down to earth guy, like
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my dad. He's you know, he's not like I saying this to someone
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else, like people think like we're like the Osbournes or something, craazy Jeremy,
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But we just live in a little like Valleys town in South Wales sort
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of thing. J I mean, like, but from the band, like
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the rest of it is normalish, I guess you know what I mean.
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So yeah, yeah, it's just you just you just chills in the dress
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room. Do you have pot noodles? Like we just eat pot noodles and
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TV and just like whatever. Whatever. It's not like check drugs and rock
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and roll with us. Yeah, it's pretty basic pot noodles rock and roll.
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Yeah. Well, actually, when I was formulating my list of questions
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for you tonight, my husband was like, you gotta ask, you know
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what, what was it like being the son of someone who is in a
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band with God. I don't know if I can get away with that question.
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I'll have to start it out. But I feel like I can get
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away with that. Yeah, it's fine and it's cool. I mean,
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when I was really young, I think I didn't like I used to go
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and see him play when I was really young, but I don't think I
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quite understood it. And then yeah, and then you're like all my friends
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like Dad's are like home all the time, and then my Dad's like away,
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what's going on? Like you know, I'm like five or six,
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don't quite understand it. But then as you get like as a bit older,
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I think, like me and my friends are going in rock music.
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And then all of a sudden, like like when Nirvana fans, and then
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all of a sudden, Dave Grohl does that Probot song with Lemmy and you're
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like, you get the crossover, d I mean, and then all of
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a sudden, motor Heads do like WrestleMania, and I was into wrestling as
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like, you know, send you like my dad's playing WrestleMania with like what's
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going on? And then it's like, oh, this is really cool.
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Actually the penny drops and you realize what you're involved with. Yeah, yeah,
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and you know, yeah, like I don't take any of it for
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granted. Who were like super lucky I said, We live like like normal
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sort of lives, But then we do get we did have super cool opportunities
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to like go to really cool gigs and you know, things like that.
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So it's just been you know, it's there's tough times. You know,
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we spent a long time with you know, your dad on the road sort
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of thing and away from home, but then you know, we're so lucky
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that we've you know, enjoyed this life. We enjoy sort of things.
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So it's a hard question to ask because I don't. I can't really,
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I've got nothing else to like go, you know, balance, it's just
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the way we've grown up sort of thing. Yeah, So I don't really
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know any of it. It's your normal. So yeah, yeah, I
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don't think it's probably probably like I said, I think people think we like
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the Osborne's or whatever, but it's just like nothing, nothing like that.
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I hope. Yeah, yeah, that that's next level, but yeah,
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exactly, it's nothing. Yeah, so tell me about the new album then,
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which is titled Kings of the Asylum. What can listeners expect from this
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record? I think everyone thinks it's hard is you just try and make the
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best album you can make, and then you put it out and hope for
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the best. It's like, I think it's a little heavier, it's a
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little more like we've kind of like more I think our last few albums just
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the sounds kind of like jumped, not genre de genre because it's all like
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guitar music, but sort of like but I think this one feels like a
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we've made a body of work sort of do you know what I mean?
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We've made like an album more than just a collection of songs. So it's
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gone done really well with the fan base and like people seeing it's our first
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one with Joel on vocals and new vocalists, so that's been like a you
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know, a new thing for everyone to check out. And I'm just really
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pleased with it. Once again, you're so close. It's hard. You've
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just got a letter of other people decide what they think, do you know
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what I mean? We work worked really hard and then just it's out for
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everyone else to decide. I guess. Yeah, once something's released, I
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think it's it sort of doesn't it becomes other people's property then like you create
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it your birth and you put it out in the world, and then yeah,
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then it's sort of up to up to the people. But how have
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you found the reception to Joel's inclusion in the band? Then? Amazing?
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Amazing. Yeah, changing vocalists can really alter the sound of a band more
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so than other instruments, and yeah, so it's always interesting to see how
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that will be received by by fans. Yeah, I think like with us,
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obviously we've sort of like grown up. Like I guess most bands,
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you like, you know, you're not know nor your album's not while you're
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still becoming a band, so maybe like members change, but sort of we've
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kind of been doing that, but slightly more publicly, if that sense.
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I mean, because we're like we're sort of like a work in progress,
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but like sort of while everyone's coming too shows and listening to album sort of
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thing. But yeah, it just felt really natural with Joel. The fans
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are really taken to him and everything and full steamer head. Basically, I
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can't say much much more than his vocal style really suits the music. Yeah,
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Yeah, it's great. First first time he sent us like a demo
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over and I was like, yeah, that's the guys, So it's great.
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That's always a nice feeling. So what sort of approach do you guys
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take to songwriting? Is there like one main person that sort of sits in
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the driver's seat or is it a combined effort. I produced the I've produced
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last two albums, so the boy the boys would probably say, I'm like
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the drive in the driving seats of the street. But I think this the
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most this most recent album is the one we've most like collect. I think
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before I'd have like a lot of songs prepared and then we'd work on them,
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but this is the first time he sort of were more in the room,
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let's just write and go. We would like we sort of wrote and
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recorded on a week by week basis, which never done before. So like
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we'd write a song or two on a Monday, and then we just start
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recording it Tuesday, and then the drums, and then Wednesday we'd do the
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guitars, and Thursday and then we'd have like two or three songs then and
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then the Monday we'd start again, like sort of and we did that for
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about five or six weeks, and we've never done it like that before.
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Actually, it was just kind of cool. We normally we're just like,
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you know, rehearsed and rehearsed and then our years asked ten songs, going
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to studio and bash it up. So it was more we could we could
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feel the album building and like we could kind of you know, do we
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need this kind of song? Do we need that kind of song? So
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I think it was a really good you know, I would definitely do it
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that way again. I think if if we get the choice or know,
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it sounds super productive. Oh yeah, yeah, it's cool because you can
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like you're bouncing because you know, you've got a weekend off, you've got
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a new fresh songs, and you go in again. Ja. I mean
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you just it was just sort of just kept rolling once we once we were
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on a role basically, Yeah, did you find as well that it helped
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you not settle so much, but like not feel as inclined to tinker with
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songs to the point of headaches? Because yes, well I think Phil is
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obviously with Motrail, there was quite an instinctual thing once they were like,
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I think they would never like over analyze a song or you know, if
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it felt good and you're jamming it, just put it to tape and get
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it down and you know what I mean. So I think kind of took
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that sort of especially because we were literally right in and then recording the next
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year and the next day just listened to a super rough in the house and
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then the next morning, I have a little tweak, we'd try it and
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then we'd just put it down and then you know the odd structure with pro
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tools wherever you can move things around a little bit. But I don't think
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we did a lot of that really, And yeah, I really like working
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that way this time around. I think it's really made a difference for us.
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Yeah, that's that's really cool. I'm in a band myself, and
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I like we've had we've had some songs that we've spent I'm not even joking
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two years writing one song and you know, like we just have to put
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it on the shelf and then come back to it again, and like they've
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all turned out to be worth sticking with. But I just I love that
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idea that you go in and yeah, sort of just not bash it out,
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but you've got this structure the formula is there and it's rock and roll
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in it. Like you know, everyone has their own process if it takes
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two years, and you know, that's cool if it takes two years.
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But like you know, we're just how different will we make it if we
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keep changing? You know, we're just playing riffs and you know, just
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trying to capture a bit of energy and just going from there. For us,
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that's all right, and sometimes you can give yourself a bit of choice
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paralysis if you overthink it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Having
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said that, we've definitely written songs in like an afternoon, We're not We're
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not that useless that it takes two years for every song were write, just
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just for the record. What sort of themes are explored lyrically on this album?
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Yeah, Like obviously like Joel's the lyric right, but I think Kingsley
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Asylum was a song he like penned quite early with the title. I think
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we were actually we would so like in our break recording, we would like
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put on the news and like in the UK and it's still terrible now where
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it was all that kind of like Boris Johnson stuff was in the news all
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the time, and like I think we would Phil would come up with like
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quite funny, funny like working titles, and we'd send them to Joel,
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maybe a bit like taking the Michael out of the Government or whatever. And
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then I think Joel wrote Kings the Asylum around that, and then when he
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sent it back, it was like, oh, that's a great album title.
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So I think from there we had sort of like we had sort of
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like it's not a concept album, but just a theme for the album.
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And I think, you know, the Asylum, like that song is probably
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more based about the country being an asylum and how it's run. But like
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I think there's other songs where the Asylum is like your mind's more sort of
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you I mean, it's it's like the asylum's like a metaphor for a few
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things in the album. Yes, so that makes sense, probably a bit
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bit deep for a rock band, but like you know, it's certainly in
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there. But if you go like I think walking in Circles for the first
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track is like kind of losing your mind, and then too much in enough
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second track is like access on the Road, yes, and then and then
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it kind of it goes up and down in waves like that sort of thing.
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So it is. It's kind of a theme in there, if you
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like look deeply into a loose theme. Yeah, no, I like that.
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Actually I usually leave my fun silly question until the end, but I'm
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gonna ask it now just because you're talking about the album and and I structured
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my question on the album title Kings of the Asylum, and I couldn't help
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it be conjured up like images of Randall McMurphy and the film One flow over
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the cookies nest. Now, I don't know if you've seen it. I've
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not seen that film, though I love cinema. It's a classic. You
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have to see it, okay, yeah, if you if you're even just
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loosely familiar with the concept. It is a man that ends up in a
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lunatic asylum. This the movie was made made in seventies, I think,
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so it's an old film. Jack Nicholson plays the main character. Of course,
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to see you then, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's amazing.
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It's one of my favorite films. But yeah, he ends up there.
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He's not insane, but he I don't I won't give you too many spoilers,
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but it made me think of that. And my question was, what
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would you guys do to end up in an asylum, and who in the
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band is most likely to wise crack his way into getting lobotomized. Oh my
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god, question, I love throwing these curly ones. My dad in his
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crazy days easily could end up in asylum. He probably hasn't hasn't told me
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about it. Well, you know the time frame as well, when they
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were still the asylums were still running. Oh man, When when people show
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up at our gigs and we haven't seen them before and they're like, oh,
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I've got a story to tell you, We're like, oh, I
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don't know if story. I mean dad looked at each other, like,
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but I guess yeah, A pin pin fill for all of those answers.
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That sounds entirely fair, I think. So, you guys have been super
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busy with your summer festival circuit over over your way recently and you've played some
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huge festivals. How was how was that experience? Oh, I mean it's
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it has been the last two the summer so not this summer. Summer before
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was like all your book ins like from three like canceled COVID summers just in
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one almost. So last summer was just absolutely crazy and then this we thought
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they would calm down this summer, but it hasn't to be, to be
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honest. So yeah, we do like and we do like motor headsets occasionally
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as well, which is like because sometimes you know, summer festivals, guys
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drinking beers, you know, they just want to hear sometimes the songs they
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know and just have a good times. So like we fit that in in
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the summer and I think people react well to it. And then when we
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do our own tours is more our own material and things. So yeah,
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it's been really good, really busy. There's just loads of like flights and
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things. Like last summer was crazy as well because it was like COVID just
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comes. Everyone was just going on holidays all over all over Europe, and
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like I don't think that like the aviation industry had really got back on his
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feet last summer, so like we'd be in like Amsterdam airport for like three
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hour cues and things just for security and stuff like yeah, like are we
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even going to make this gig no pressure or anything? Which festival has been
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the highlight for you? Oh? I don't know. I just the bigger
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the better, I just I'm just up for it as soon as I just
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see like a massive crowd. I'm like, yeah, let's just do this.
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We've done this summer. We did two supporting Guns and Roses. Yeah,
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yeah, I saw that. The first one was just well, no,
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they're both. I just love it. Yeah, I just the bigger
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the crowds just the betters for me. I'm just like, if I can
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run around them wherever, I'm up for this. And I love small shows
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as well, but like I don't get intimidated by the big ones and just
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whatever. I just enjoy them all to be honest. Yeah, And festival
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crowds are a vibe of their own, aren't they, Like, especially summertime,
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and everyone's just everyone's riding the good, good vibe wave. Yeah,
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describe for me what behind the scenes at a festival is like for you,
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because obviously festival sets are typically fairly short. Yeah, so what do you
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guys get up to either side? I'd love to tell you like exciting stuff,
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but we still like just make something up. We just we like work
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because we still like we'll be on our hands and knees, like taping cables
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down. And this is weird for us because like we got like a small
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crew, but we still like get involved and we do our own line checks,
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and then we go backstage and then we grow jackets on and you have
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to like walk out like you were never you know, like most men just
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walk out like yeah, it's like we were literally here ten minutes ago,
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just like one one to check kind of thing. I just put my hat
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on back, so like, yeah, for us, it's just like my
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brother's taking the merch to the mercht All and it's on the phone trying to
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arrange things because like, yeah, that's what it's like for us. It's
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just chaos for us. And then normally it's back in the van to an
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airport to another one. So I'm afraid, and I'm the photographer for the
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band as well, and I'm taking photos and everyone's just like tired. I
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mean, I completely understand you. I'm that person as well, Waven waving
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the camera and everyone's friend. They don't say that, yeah, they don't
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say, but you can tell. It's like it's like, come on.
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I think a lot of people are quite unaware of how much most bands do
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themselves. Yeah, especially nowadays. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know
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they're not. It's not like, yeah, the curtain drops, you have
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to hit a really highlight able to like not have to do anything apart from
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player instruments. Yeah, absolutely, and I wouldn't we I don't know if
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i'd want that either, because I quite like the hands on aspect of I
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don't know, a little taste of a maybe a little bit of pressure off
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or have some lackeys just to jump in when you need them or something.
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Yeah. Yeah, Well that's coming from someone who's never going to reach those
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heights. So I suppose in denial and just go no. I like it
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this way. You never you never know, you don't you don't know what
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this is, what's gonna happen in this world? You never know. Well,
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very very true. So what plans, what further plans have you got
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for to ring this new album? Is Australia on the cards. It's a
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tough one. We we get we do get a few offers, but it's
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a little it's quite far for us. I think. I think if we
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ever get like need like a festival to sort of and a good festival offer,
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we could do something else. I'd love to I'd love to come to
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Australia and and then like Japan and things we've never done it like fills done
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it, but as a band, we've never done it, so we always
24:06
would love to do it, but obviously with the expense we need sort of
24:08
the right offered and like people, we get messages all the time when you
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come into Australia. It's really frustrated. And obviously I assume everyone loves the
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rock and roll still in Australia, hope, absolutely. Yeah, so you
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know, it'd be great to do it. Hopefully one day we'll do it,
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but it's not bucked in at the moment. It's just such a shame
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the price. It's the price we pay for being at the ass whole end
24:30
of the world. Let's well, we're at the other end. Well,
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where are you touring in the immediate future? So yeah, I think it's
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like twelve days time. We're going to Europe for about three weeks and then
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we're home for like a month, and then we're doing a UK tour and
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then I'm not sure. After that, I think probably start writing again next
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year and festival season and do it all again. I would have thought,
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but let's see what comes in. I'm not sure yet. I'm gonna ask
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you a really shade question, but do you have a preference for writing,
25:03
recording, or performing. That's a good question. Studio is really good when
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the riffs start coming together, is a nice feeling. And then obviously you
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get to just go home as well as being away from home. So yeah,
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I think you know everything, like it's like a cycle in there.
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You're gonna have one with that. Like we couldn't keep touring not release music,
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and then we couldn't release music and never tour it. I think people
25:26
would get tired of that of it, you know. So I think you
25:30
just you need a balance of both. Really enjoy all of it. I
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enjoy it because with my photography, enjoy traveling and taking photos and and things.
25:40
So yeah, sorry, as I gave you a bit of it on
25:42
the fence answer to that one, I gave you a clicheed question, so
25:48
it's fair. So obviously your dad was famously part of Motorhead, But what
25:53
were you doing before you were part of the bastard Sons? I mean you
25:56
were obviously a bastard son. But yeah, yeah, well we're not.
26:02
None of us are bastard sons. Mom and dad live up the road sort
26:04
of thing. We're all like stop, don't, don't ruin the allusion brothers
26:08
to the same mother, as we like to say, Bastards by nature and
26:15
not by lineage. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I've run a recording
26:19
studios. It's like my mid twenty sort of thing. So that was always
26:22
my main sort of job, and now I just balanced the two. It's
26:26
really good actually, because in tour and then come home and work with locals,
26:30
like local bands I work with mainly and things like that. Yeah.
26:33
And then we used to have a band, me and Dane, my brother
26:37
Dramma. We were in another bank called Straight Lines. We used to do
26:40
a lot of like touring in the UK and stuff things like that, so
26:44
you know, we're always involved with that sort of thing, and yet and
26:47
things just sort of evolved and moved and then we ended up being in the
26:51
Bastards pretty actually, Yeah, smashing through all the European festivals, trying our
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best. Yeah yeah, live the dream. Yeah yeah, I can I
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can't argue. That's awesome. Well, I've just received the little notification that
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our time is running out, so and you've probably got another another interview to
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get I do have another one coming out, but what's the time now,
27:15
don't ask me what the time is because it's eight o'clock at night here,
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so that's going to throw you right out. Yeah, it's a long interview.
27:26
Oh we get hope that was okay anyway, and I made sense.
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No, it's brilliant. No, No, I love someone I can banter
27:33
with. I was listening to because I only got throwing this this assignment at
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twenty four hours ago, and so I was listening to the album this morning
27:44
while I was cleaning my house, and yeah, I love it. It's
27:45
super good. Probably a good one for cleaning, I would have thought,
27:48
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got it done, probably in half the
27:51
time that I would have We'll put that on the sticker next time, on
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the front of the music to clean to. That could be the title of
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your next album. Oh my god, you never know, never know.
28:08
Alrighty, well, I'll let you get onto your next one. Thank you
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so much for giving giving me your time, and yeah, all the best
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with the album and it's success and your upcoming to us. Oh, thank
28:19
you. Hopefully we'll be over to Australia one day. Fingers crossed. Take
28:23
care, Todd. Thank you. Nice to meet you anyway, but make
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sure you check out Kings of the Asylum, the latest album by Phil Campbell
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