Latest / Finding God at Work / 18: Unlearning Learned Helplessness
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- 0:05(Transcribed by TurboScribe.ai. Go Unlimited to remove this message.) Hi, I'm Chris.
- 0:07This is Finding God at Work.
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- 0:31at work.
- 0:33In our last episode, we looked at trauma.
- 0:36In this episode, we're going to keep looking
- 0:37at trauma, but specifically looking at the workplace
- 0:40as a place of healing.
- 0:43Now, that might sound like promising a lot.
- 0:46Really the workplace as a place of healing.
- 0:48And maybe there are some workplaces where that's
- 0:51not possible.
- 0:52But at the very least, those of us
- 0:54who are disciples of Jesus can view ourselves
- 0:56as agents of healing in our workplaces.
- 1:00We can bring the presence of Jesus with
- 1:02us and help foster healing and recovery and
- 1:07grace wherever we go.
- 1:09And in as much as maybe several different
- 1:12disciples of Jesus, several different people of peace
- 1:14can contribute to that culture in a workplace,
- 1:19I think the workplace itself might even in
- 1:21some situations become a place of healing.
- 1:24So I want to look at three different
- 1:26ways that a workplace can relate to trauma.
- 1:30So the first is when workplace is the
- 1:33place of trauma.
- 1:35The second is when the workplace is protecting
- 1:37against trauma.
- 1:39And then the third is when workplace is
- 1:42a place of healing from trauma.
- 1:44So first, when the workplace is the place
- 1:46of trauma, there's even technical language for this
- 1:49and the psychological literature, workplace trauma, sometimes the
- 1:54place where people are having that inciting event,
- 1:57that traumatic experience is the workplace itself.
- 2:01And this can happen in so many different
- 2:02ways.
- 2:02I'll just read a brief quote here from
- 2:04social psychologist Shana B.
- 2:06Tayon.
- 2:07And she's writing about how trauma and retraumatization
- 2:11of people who have been previously traumatized can
- 2:13happen in the workplace.
- 2:16Toxic work environments where bad employee behaviors like
- 2:18intimidation, bullying or harassment aren't addressed quickly and
- 2:23directly pose a particularly great risk of retraumatizing
- 2:26the traumatized.
- 2:28This is also true for workplace environments that
- 2:30simply lack psychological safety, which is the sense
- 2:33that you will be punished or humiliated for
- 2:35sharing mistakes, ideas and questions.
- 2:40So what Tayon is saying is there's two
- 2:41different ways that work can become a place
- 2:44of traumatization or retraumatization.
- 2:47One is where there are bad employee behaviors,
- 2:49there are bad actors, and they are harassing
- 2:52or intimidating or bullying their colleagues.
- 2:55And so obviously that's traumatic in and of
- 2:57itself.
- 2:58Or you simply haven't done the work to
- 3:00create psychological safety.
- 3:02So people are just afraid of making mistakes,
- 3:05afraid of being punished for sharing their ideas
- 3:08forthrightly.
- 3:09It may not come to that same place
- 3:11of like the abusive bad employee behavior, but
- 3:14it's still not a psychologically safe place where
- 3:16people can be themselves fully and take healthy
- 3:19risks.
- 3:20So either way, the workplace itself can be
- 3:23a place of trauma.
- 3:25If that's the situation you're facing at work
- 3:27right now, my prayer for you is that
- 3:30you will find grace to endure and the
- 3:33courage to speak up for yourself as best
- 3:36you can to be protected against future retraumatization.
- 3:41It's really hard, though, because our work is
- 3:44our work.
- 3:44We need it to get the paycheck.
- 3:46We need it to provide for ourselves, perhaps
- 3:48for our loved ones.
- 3:49And so even when we're facing trauma in
- 3:51the workplace, it can feel like we can't
- 3:53say no, like we can't get out.
- 3:54It's a really, really hard place to be.
- 3:57If that's where you're at, make sure you're
- 3:59reaching out to somebody that you trust to
- 4:01talk to them about what you're experiencing at
- 4:03work and to think through what options for
- 4:05next steps might be for you.
- 4:08Okay, so that's the first thing.
- 4:10Work as the place of trauma.
- 4:13Now, second kind of middle stage work as
- 4:16protecting against trauma, the place that protects against
- 4:19trauma.
- 4:19This would be a workplace that promotes psychological
- 4:22safety, where people are not punished for sharing
- 4:24ideas or for making mistakes, but where there's
- 4:27healthy feedback, opportunity for people to ask questions
- 4:29and grow, and so forth.
- 4:32Okay, so there's another psychological idea that I
- 4:35think can help us here, this idea that
- 4:37there can be a protective factor against traumatization.
- 4:41And that's the idea of secure attachment.
- 4:45So just real brief background here, there was
- 4:48a developmental psychologist named Mary Ainsworth in 1978.
- 4:51She did this study called the strange situation,
- 4:54where she got a number of mothers and
- 4:56their kids ages two or younger, and put
- 5:00them in increasingly strange dynamics, right?
- 5:03So maybe mom had to leave for a
- 5:05little bit.
- 5:06And so the kid would be distressed that
- 5:07mom had left, maybe a stranger entered the
- 5:09room.
- 5:09So the kid was like didn't know that
- 5:11person, right?
- 5:12Different factors of strangeness introduced, and then observing
- 5:16how children responded.
- 5:18And then Ainsworth analyzed the different patterns of
- 5:22response that the children had to this experience
- 5:24as different styles of attachment.
- 5:27And what seemed to be the healthiest response
- 5:29was what she called secure attachment.
- 5:32So that's where the child showed mild distress
- 5:35when the parent left, but then was quickly
- 5:37able to reestablish contact when the parent returned.
- 5:41So this idea like, okay, I'm secure.
- 5:43I'm attached to my adult person.
- 5:46When they go away, that's distressing to me,
- 5:48but I'm okay when they come back.
- 5:51So that that was kind of a foundational
- 5:53experiment that led to a broader framework of
- 5:57what's called attachment theory in the discipline of
- 5:59psychology.
- 5:59And you know there's continuing nuances as people
- 6:01explore how that works today, and how childhood
- 6:05experiences can affect how you live as an
- 6:07adult as well, in terms of how you
- 6:08relate to other people.
- 6:10Okay, an interesting quite recent version of a
- 6:13psychological study like this was a meta-analysis.
- 6:16That's a fun term, right?
- 6:17This means a study of studies published in
- 6:202023 in the journal Development and Psychopathology.
- 6:24And it had a number of different authors.
- 6:26The first author's name was Toby Cushing.
- 6:28So this is a Cushing et al study.
- 6:30And the title is the relationship between attachment
- 6:33and post-traumatic stress in children and adolescents.
- 6:38So they were looking at, okay, this idea
- 6:40of attachment, that do you have a style
- 6:42of how you can attach to other people,
- 6:45your parents, as well as others socially, and
- 6:48does that affect how you experience a traumatic
- 6:51event?
- 6:52Because remember, going back to our last episode,
- 6:54right, there's kind of when we're thinking about
- 6:55the workplace, those three parts or three steps,
- 6:58right?
- 6:58There's the painful or distressing event, step one.
- 7:02Then there's the lasting emotional response to that
- 7:05event, step two.
- 7:07And then there's how that affects our experience
- 7:08of work or work performance, step three.
- 7:12So they're looking at, okay, how does your
- 7:14attachment style affect that step two, that lasting
- 7:19emotional response to a traumatic event?
- 7:21Because different people can have different responses to
- 7:24the same event.
- 7:25And what the results indicated is that children
- 7:28with that secure attachment style, in general, had
- 7:33fewer post-traumatic stress symptoms than children with
- 7:38other attachment styles.
- 7:40Okay, so that was that was a lot
- 7:42of technical language.
- 7:43What does all that mean?
- 7:45It means attachment protects against trauma.
- 7:51That's the simple version.
- 7:53Now what does that have to do with
- 7:55the workplace, right?
- 7:55We're talking about children and teens and their
- 7:57parents and things like that.
- 7:59But I would suggest a workplace where people
- 8:02have healthy attachments to one another could be
- 8:07a workplace that is protective against trauma.
- 8:11When something really negative happens in that workplace,
- 8:13maybe a colleague dies or there is an
- 8:16instance of a bad actor behaving in a
- 8:17certain way.
- 8:18If people in that workplace have secure attachments
- 8:20with one another, that's going to protect against
- 8:24the severity of the distress and the fallout
- 8:26of that traumatic event.
- 8:28Okay, so that wasn't a study about the
- 8:30workplace that I cited, the meta-analysis, right?
- 8:34That was about children and teens.
- 8:35So we'd have to look at different studies
- 8:37about attachment styles in the workplace to really
- 8:39say that confidently.
- 8:40But at the very least, it probably doesn't
- 8:43hurt in a workplace when people have a
- 8:46secure attachment style, a capacity to relate to
- 8:49others in healthy ways, to be secure in
- 8:51themselves.
- 8:53That probably contributes to protection when a traumatic
- 8:57event occurs in some way.
- 9:00Okay, so, so far so good in terms
- 9:02of workplaces protecting against trauma.
- 9:06And that's often as far as the discussion
- 9:08goes in the literature that I've seen.
- 9:10Like, okay, how can we help workplaces at
- 9:12least not do more harm than good?
- 9:14How can we at least protect against trauma
- 9:16in the way that we build our workplace
- 9:17cultures?
- 9:18But I think, again, as disciples of Jesus,
- 9:20we can go further and ask what would
- 9:22it look like for the workplace itself to
- 9:24be an environment of healing.
- 9:27And again, it's going to depend on specific
- 9:28workplaces, whether it can really be realized in
- 9:31that way, but it's something we can aspire
- 9:33to.
- 9:34Another study, also from the 70s, 1972, that
- 9:38I think can help us with this, is
- 9:40the foundational study that gave us the concept
- 9:42of learned helplessness.
- 9:44So this was from Marty Seligman and Stephen
- 9:46F.
- 9:47Meyer.
- 9:48They did this experiment with dogs.
- 9:50Not very pleasant, so heads up that we're
- 9:52gonna talk about what they did to the
- 9:52dogs here.
- 9:54So in part one of the experiment, they
- 9:56administered electric shocks to these dogs.
- 9:59And I'm just like, oh, the poor dogs.
- 10:01Like, why do we have to do this?
- 10:02Even if it does yield psychological insights.
- 10:03And that's a different podcast.
- 10:07So that's part one.
- 10:08They administer these shocks to the dogs.
- 10:11And some of the dogs were given a
- 10:13button, and if they pressed the button, they
- 10:16would make the shocks stop.
- 10:18Whereas other dogs had no control over the
- 10:20shocks they received.
- 10:21Nothing that they did made a difference.
- 10:24Then in part two of the experiment, the
- 10:26same dogs from part one were then put
- 10:29in an environment where they could all jump
- 10:32a short wall in order to escape the
- 10:34shocks.
- 10:35But the dogs from part one, the ones
- 10:37where nothing that they did mattered in part
- 10:39one, they wouldn't even try to jump over
- 10:42that wall in part two.
- 10:44They just laid down and whined while the
- 10:46shocks continued.
- 10:48So in other words, the dogs who had
- 10:50learned that they were helpless in part one
- 10:52of the experiments continued to act as if
- 10:55they were helpless in part two, even though
- 10:57they weren't.
- 10:59Okay, so it's not hard to see how
- 11:01this experiment created a paradigm for how we
- 11:03as human beings can learn helplessness.
- 11:06All of us have those part one experiences,
- 11:09those traumatic events from our childhood, from our
- 11:12early life, or even from more recently where
- 11:14things are out of our control, where we
- 11:16didn't have a say over how things went
- 11:18for us.
- 11:20And because of that, it's easy in new
- 11:22situations to feel like, man, I don't have
- 11:24what it takes.
- 11:25I can't get things done in this situation.
- 11:27I can't determine my future.
- 11:30So at work, this sense of helplessness could
- 11:33manifest in all sorts of ways.
- 11:35Maybe a boss is doing something and you
- 11:37want to ask them to stop, but you
- 11:39think, I just won't even bother.
- 11:41Or maybe you feel like you could ask
- 11:42for a raise, but then you're afraid like,
- 11:45no, no, no, I wouldn't want to ask
- 11:47and then get rejected.
- 11:48And so you don't do it.
- 11:49Or maybe you just don't even search for
- 11:52a certain job or you don't prepare for
- 11:53a possible promotion that you could get because
- 11:55you just have a sense like, nah, I'm
- 11:57not going to be able to do that.
- 12:00These moments that could in some ways amount
- 12:02to self-sabotage or missing opportunities that are
- 12:07right there for the taking.
- 12:09It's easy for someone on the outside of
- 12:10that experience to look at someone else and
- 12:12say like, just do it, right?
- 12:14Just take advantage of the opportunity.
- 12:15Just jump over the wall.
- 12:18But it's not about how high the wall
- 12:20is.
- 12:21It's not about that part two of the
- 12:22experiment.
- 12:23It's about part one, that traumatic experience where
- 12:27you didn't have control over anything in your
- 12:29environment.
- 12:30And so you learned that you were helpless.
- 12:33That's what's really going on.
- 12:36Like we talked about in our last episode,
- 12:39doing the work to figure out like, oh,
- 12:40okay, here's this work performance issue I'm having.
- 12:44Step three, let's move backwards.
- 12:47What's the emotional response I'm having?
- 12:49Step two, okay, let's move backwards.
- 12:51What's the traumatic event that's informing that?
- 12:53Step one, and then making that a place
- 12:55where you welcome the presence of God and
- 12:58you can experience healing through counseling, through prayer
- 13:01at church, through other means.
- 13:03One of those other means is your experiences
- 13:07in the workplace itself.
- 13:10Now this depends on having a workplace that's
- 13:12at least at that stage too.
- 13:14At least at that stage where it's like
- 13:15relatively healthy, protecting against re-traumatization, possible to
- 13:19take some healthy risks.
- 13:21If you have a workplace like that, the
- 13:24way the work itself becomes a place of
- 13:26healing is when you unlearn, learned helplessness through
- 13:31what you're accomplishing at work.
- 13:33Okay, so this takes courage.
- 13:35You got to face that moment, whatever it
- 13:37is, the boss that you need to ask
- 13:39them to do something differently or the raise
- 13:41that you need to actually ask for, the
- 13:42promotion that you need to actually prepare for,
- 13:45and you have that moment where you need
- 13:47help.
- 13:47You need some outside help to get over
- 13:50that wall, to jump over the wall.
- 13:52But if you can get that help and
- 13:55you do jump over the wall, then you
- 13:57learned that you weren't helpless.
- 13:59Then your workplace itself became an environment where
- 14:02you unlearned your learned helplessness, where you learned,
- 14:06wow, I can do it.
- 14:07I have what it takes.
- 14:10Now the good news about part two of
- 14:12the experiment is the researchers eventually did decide
- 14:15to help the dogs.
- 14:17So the ones that were just sitting down
- 14:18and whining, they reached their hands in and
- 14:22picked the dog's feet up and moved them
- 14:25over the wall.
- 14:27And then the dogs realized, oh, I can
- 14:30hop over this wall.
- 14:32So what does that look like in our
- 14:34workplace?
- 14:34What does it look like for somebody to
- 14:36help us pick our feet up and move
- 14:38over the wall?
- 14:39I want to look at three people in
- 14:42the workplace that can help us in this
- 14:45way.
- 14:46So one, bosses, two colleagues, and then three,
- 14:49Jesus himself.
- 14:51So one, bosses.
- 14:53Bosses have a unique role because they often
- 14:57are the ones who can set the challenges
- 14:59in front of someone.
- 15:00They're the ones that set how high a
- 15:01wall is to jump over, right?
- 15:03Like, here's a challenge.
- 15:04I think you have what it takes.
- 15:06When a boss says to someone, I see
- 15:08this in you.
- 15:09I see that you have what it takes
- 15:10to meet this challenge.
- 15:12Go for it.
- 15:13That boss can be a minister of healing.
- 15:15Maybe that person has a story that you
- 15:17have no idea about, even though you're their
- 15:19boss, and you inviting them to pursue a
- 15:22challenge that really is an appropriate challenge for
- 15:24them could be a moment of healing for
- 15:26them.
- 15:26You may not even know.
- 15:28So this is one of those reasons why
- 15:29if you're in a managerial position, it's so
- 15:31important to name people's strengths correctly.
- 15:34And no, sometimes you're naming strengths that they
- 15:36may not even see in themselves yet.
- 15:39Okay, so one, bosses can be ministers of
- 15:41healing even without realizing it just by doing
- 15:43their job as boss as well to give
- 15:46people appropriate challenges and to name the strengths
- 15:48of their team members.
- 15:49Two, colleagues.
- 15:51Often your co-workers on your team know
- 15:52what you're good and bad at even more
- 15:54than your boss does, right?
- 15:55And that's one of those kind of ironies
- 15:57is like the person that's in charge of
- 15:58making decisions about you knows less about you
- 16:00than other people do.
- 16:01But given how well colleagues know each other,
- 16:04this is also a place where help can
- 16:06come from.
- 16:07If you see something in a colleague that's
- 16:09a strength of theirs, maybe you're not in
- 16:10a position to change their workload or their
- 16:12work challenges.
- 16:13But just like name that make a habit
- 16:15of naming other people's strengths.
- 16:17And you don't have to be like an
- 16:19especially masterful, encouraging person to do this.
- 16:22I literally I have a reminder in my
- 16:25task management system to say encouraging things to
- 16:27other people, because I don't always remember to
- 16:29do it.
- 16:30Whatever you need to do to remember to
- 16:32name the strengths of the people around you,
- 16:34you can also be a minister of healing
- 16:36where people might say like, oh, I can
- 16:38put my foot over that wall after all.
- 16:42And then three, Jesus himself is ultimately the
- 16:45one who's helping us even when it's ministered
- 16:46through a boss, through a colleague, through our
- 16:49own will being engaged to say, yes, I'm
- 16:52going to try and jump over this wall
- 16:53even though I'm scared.
- 16:55All of that are varied forms of God's
- 16:57grace for us in Jesus Christ.
- 16:59I want to look at just one verse
- 17:01that I think says this so beautifully.
- 17:04This is in Hebrews chapter 13 and the
- 17:07author of the letter to the Hebrews is
- 17:09citing a verse from Deuteronomy 31 six and
- 17:12then also from Psalm 118 verses six and
- 17:15seven.
- 17:17Never will I leave you.
- 17:19Never will I forsake you.
- 17:22So we say with confidence, the Lord is
- 17:24my helper.
- 17:27I will not be afraid.
- 17:28What can mere mortals do to me?
- 17:32The Lord is my helper.
- 17:33I will not be afraid.
- 17:35What can mere mortals do to me?
- 17:41Ultimately, it's Jesus who reaches down into the
- 17:45cage where we're feeling the shocks, where we're
- 17:49whining and we can't move.
- 17:52And he gently takes our feet and shows
- 17:55us that there is a way over the
- 17:56wall.
- 17:58When we minister that power of Jesus to
- 18:01heal in our workplaces, I don't think it's
- 18:04too much to say that our work is
- 18:06becoming a place of healing.
- 18:11Lord Jesus, thank you that we don't have
- 18:13to be helpless.
- 18:14Thank you that we can unlearn, learn helplessness.
- 18:18Do your work in us as we do
- 18:20our work with you.
- 18:22Amen.
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