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Alien with Eliza Skinner · The Bechdel Cast

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Speaker 1: On the dol Cast. The questions asked if movies have
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Speaker 1: women and um are all their discussions just boyfriends and
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Speaker 1: husbands or do they have individualism? The patriarchy ze and
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Speaker 1: best start changing it with the Beck del Cast. Hi,
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Speaker 1: welcome to the Backdel Cast. My name is Jamie, my
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Speaker 1: name is Caitlin, and this is our podcast about how
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Speaker 1: women are portrayed in movies. Yeah, it's the Beck Dol
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Speaker 1: Cast is ah and so today my first time talking
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Speaker 1: to anybody today. So that's Oh, I don't know how
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Speaker 1: to string a sense together. I only talked to So.
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Speaker 1: I talked to someone at the DMV today. He was
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Speaker 1: very nice. His name was Arnold, and he's like, why
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Speaker 1: don't you have a driver's license? And I was like, honestly,
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Speaker 1: it's a really long story and and he was like, Okay,
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Speaker 1: don't worry about it's mine. So we're very close. Now good. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Last time I was at the d m V, I
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Speaker 1: cried in public because I failed the written test do
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Speaker 1: switch over my Massachusetts license and I had to retake
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Speaker 1: the written test, which I did not pass because they
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Speaker 1: asked me questions were not relevant to me at all.
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Speaker 1: They're like, how do you strap in a car seat
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Speaker 1: or something like that, and I was like, I ain't
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Speaker 1: never having kids? Was that not an option? That was
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Speaker 1: choose that, That was not like, f ain't never having kids? Unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: saw my birth certificate today, which is good. It's amazing.
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Speaker 1: I still have it because I've been passing it around
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Speaker 1: a stand up stuff recently, just to like why. I
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Speaker 1: don't know, but I don't know. People enjoy it though? Cool? Yeah, Hey,
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Speaker 1: should we talk about movies? I don't know. Okay, all right,
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Speaker 1: let's talk about movies. As we mentioned, this is a
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Speaker 1: podcast about the portrayal of female characters in movies. Whoops,
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Speaker 1: A lot of movies don't do it very well. We're
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Speaker 1: gonna call it out. But this movie actually does well.
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Speaker 1: We'll talk about it. But we're here with a guest,
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Speaker 1: and let's introduce her again. I'm very bad at talking today.
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Speaker 1: I I wish I was drunk. Okay, where is the
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Speaker 1: Mike's hard? Where is it? Anyway? Our guests here with
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Speaker 1: us today. She's a very funny stand up comic. She
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Speaker 1: is a writer on The Late Late Show with James Cordon,
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Speaker 1: and she has her own podcast called Angry Little Goats,
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Speaker 1: which she co hosts with Will Weldon, who you might
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Speaker 1: remember from our Mad Max Fury Road episode Friend of
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Speaker 1: the Cast, Friend of the episode we got all that
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Speaker 1: hate mail about, Yeah, we did from all those steam punks,
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Speaker 1: and now we have a new friend of the cast.
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Speaker 1: Our guest, Ali is this skinner. Thanks for being here,
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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. Yeah kind of? Did you
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Speaker 1: really get hate mail? When Will came on? We well,
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Speaker 1: it was specifically about It wasn't as much as we
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Speaker 1: would love to blame him for it. Uh No, I
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Speaker 1: think I was the target of posts of the vitriol. Well,
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Speaker 1: because we did uh Mad Max Herey Road was the
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Speaker 1: episode we did with Will and I, I guess called
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Speaker 1: out the steampunk culture a little too hard. I guess
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Speaker 1: I was a little too tough on the steampunks. And
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Speaker 1: apparently the steampunks are listening to the podcast because hello steampunk. Hey,
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Speaker 1: shout out to all of all you dirty steampunks out there.
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Speaker 1: We still got we still have beef. I think that
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Speaker 1: maybe steampunk suit that's the only okay prejudice to have
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Speaker 1: versus steampunks. I think it's I don't even know if
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Speaker 1: it's that much of a real thing. Like I worked
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Speaker 1: on the show When to preach into the cho where
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Speaker 1: we were like, hey, we need to find steampunk people
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Speaker 1: like as far as like a lifestyle thing, and nobody. No,
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Speaker 1: we couldn't find anybody. We found. We ended up finding
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Speaker 1: one lady who when she showed up, She's like, oh no,
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Speaker 1: this isn't my life. If I just have this outfit
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Speaker 1: and get paid to wear it for parties. Sometimes I'm like, oh, well,
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Speaker 1: there are festivals. I got a group onto a steampunk
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Speaker 1: festival once because I just wanted to face my fears.
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Speaker 1: Did you go? Yeah? I went? Was it super fun?
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Speaker 1: It wasn't. It was upset everyone. There were just gears
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Speaker 1: and and suede vests. It was disgusting. Made me sick. Well, hey,
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Speaker 1: the movie we're talking about, I think has no trace
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Speaker 1: of steampunk culture. Culture in this one for that base culture.
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Speaker 1: The a lot of space culture. Because the movie we're
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Speaker 1: talking about is Alien yea from nineteen seventy nine, directed
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Speaker 1: by Ridley Scott Eliza. Yes, When did you first see
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Speaker 1: this movie? What's your history with it? Gosh, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I must have probably seen it for the first time
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Speaker 1: in high school. I remember when Aliens came out because
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Speaker 1: they're the cover of Mad Magazine was like one of
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Speaker 1: the first Mad magazines I had. They did a parody
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Speaker 1: of it, and I didn't understand at all, but I
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Speaker 1: was like fascinated. So then when I was older, I
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Speaker 1: saw that. So you saw Aliens before Aliens? Yes? Um?
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Speaker 1: And uh so yeah. I must have been in high
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Speaker 1: school when I finally saw Alien. Got you? What about you,
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Speaker 1: Jamie Yesterday? Nice? Really? Yeah? Wow? As do you like
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Speaker 1: sci fi? Um? I don't even know that. I like
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Speaker 1: movies very much. I like I like cartoons and television,
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Speaker 1: but I and true crime. So did you know? What
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Speaker 1: did you know about it going into it? Um? I
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Speaker 1: knew that I had to keep reminding myself that it
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Speaker 1: was not Aliens, which I watched the first ten minutes
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Speaker 1: of before realizing I should be watching Alien. Shoot that
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Speaker 1: spoiled so much stuff for you? Yeah, I mean it did.
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Speaker 1: But also, I you know, sci fi is like not
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Speaker 1: my area of extreme interest, so I was sort of
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Speaker 1: going into this one, like, all right, we're gonna through this.
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Speaker 1: We're going to get through this, Jamie, It's going to
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Speaker 1: be fine. I got some Jack in the box. I
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Speaker 1: honkered down and watched the first ten minutes of Aliens,
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Speaker 1: and then all of the like why is Bill Paxton?
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Speaker 1: And this I Oh my God, and then I and
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Speaker 1: then I wanted to watch Big Love, but it wasn't
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Speaker 1: an option. Time was of the essence well, like yeah,
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Speaker 1: because one of the interesting things I think about Alien
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Speaker 1: is uh that initially watching it, audiences didn't know who
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Speaker 1: the protagonist was going to be, right, Yeah, So it
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Speaker 1: sorts so kind of unfolds and an interesting way the
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Speaker 1: the the evolution of each character. I had enough peripheral
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Speaker 1: knowledge of like sigurity, we like, I knew who was
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Speaker 1: the focus. But other than that, I was just like,
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Speaker 1: it takes place in space, and there's a movie that
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Speaker 1: is frustratingly sounds exactly like it that I will get
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Speaker 1: confused with. But it's space working class. It's true. Yes, yeah,
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Speaker 1: they're like what type of or we don't know. I'm
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Speaker 1: not important space or moon or I saw the movie,
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Speaker 1: I think probably in college for the first time, and
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Speaker 1: I think I saw Aliens like right after it too,
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Speaker 1: But that's are the only two I've seen. I have
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Speaker 1: not I'll be honest, I prefer Aliens. I think I
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Speaker 1: do too. I think the Alien is the better movie
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Speaker 1: and certainly better acted, because my goodness, does Bill Paxton
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Speaker 1: give an insane performance in Aliens. But I don't talk
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Speaker 1: about this, I will flip out, I know. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he's enjoyable to watch. He's given some pretty cheesy dialogue
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Speaker 1: and his acting is extremely over the top, which I
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Speaker 1: think is perfectly appropriate. From Time and Twister. He's awful,
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Speaker 1: but yeah, he's He's capable of performances that ranged from
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Speaker 1: bad to good. Yep, that's all right, But yeah, I
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Speaker 1: think Aliens is definitely more my speed of like an
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Speaker 1: action guns and stuff. Again, I'm very good with words today,
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Speaker 1: but they're they're creeping around. Yeah, it's honestly, I did
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Speaker 1: not ever really draw this parallel until the recent rewatch
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Speaker 1: of Aliens. But it is quite similar to Jurassic Park,
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Speaker 1: and it's in terms of it's like story structure at
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Speaker 1: least um, which is one of my favorite movies ever.
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Speaker 1: So I was like, oh man, this is basically just
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Speaker 1: like Jurassic Park. But with aliens instead of dinosaurs. Anyway, Jamie,
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Speaker 1: did did you like the movie? Did you like Alien?
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Speaker 1: I did. I enjoyed it as much as I could
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Speaker 1: enjoy a sci fi movie, Like I know, like it's
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Speaker 1: it's definitely not my wheelhouse, but I I you know,
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Speaker 1: it's like, once you get into it, you're like, Okay,
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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a creature. It's gonna be covered in goop.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna beat the creature up more goop.
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Speaker 1: So I was ready for creatures and goop, So dread it.
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Speaker 1: What is your whalehouse? If that's not my wheelhouse? Is
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Speaker 1: kind of all over at the board. I like old.
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Speaker 1: I mean most of the movies I like are older,
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Speaker 1: which we don't usually cover here. Mid century older Like yeah,
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Speaker 1: like forties and fifties is much better. Female characters back then,
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Speaker 1: uh some complex? Yeah, A lot of times. I think
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Speaker 1: they let them be. They at least have personalities, even
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Speaker 1: when therefore, you know, confined to the house. Um. I
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Speaker 1: love sci fi, but I have a real bias against
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Speaker 1: boy stories. Um stories that are just like all about
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Speaker 1: dudes from a male point of fel Like, I really
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Speaker 1: it's not I don't look at them and then judge them.
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Speaker 1: I just honestly cannot connect with them. But I love
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Speaker 1: sci fi, and so I've found a lot of um
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Speaker 1: sci fi that kind of works around that for me,
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Speaker 1: especially books. You've probably even like my love of sci
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Speaker 1: fi books kind of brought me into well, it's time
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Speaker 1: for the Caitlin Rique. Caitlin Rique. This story revolves around
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Speaker 1: a crew on a spacecraft called the Stroma and they
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Speaker 1: have just come back from mining the Moon or or whatever.
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Speaker 1: They're woken up from there like hyper sleep because there's
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Speaker 1: a distress signal or something like that coming from a planet.
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Speaker 1: They're like, oh man, we gotta go check it out.
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Speaker 1: And it's a crew of seven people. There's Dallas played
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Speaker 1: by Tom Scarrett. He's the captain. Then we've got Brett,
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Speaker 1: which is Harry Dean Stanton Kine's played by John hurt
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Speaker 1: Ash is Ian Holme. Parker is yaw Fit Kdo. Then
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Speaker 1: we've got ripley Okay, Silgournia Weaver, and then Lambert which
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Speaker 1: is Veronica cart right, and don't forget Jones e the
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Speaker 1: cat anyway, introducing m Jones as himself. You know that
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Speaker 1: apparently that it was originally all male characters. M it
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Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me one it Yeah, it was written, um
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Speaker 1: all supposedly written gender neutral, but that means men they're
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Speaker 1: with the mast man. And I've heard one of the
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Speaker 1: drafts of it was done by Walter Hill, who did
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Speaker 1: for forty eight hours another forty hours in Streets of
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Speaker 1: Fire and a bunch of stuff. Um and he just
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Speaker 1: change he has writing partner, changed those two characters and
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Speaker 1: two women, but then didn't change any of the other dialogue,
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Speaker 1: which I think is son and yeah, like a smart
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Speaker 1: thing to be taken away from that. I mean Amy
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Speaker 1: Pohler at one point and Knows famously quoted as saying
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Speaker 1: someone was like, they don't know how to write for women.
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Speaker 1: She like, just write a man and then give it
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Speaker 1: a woman's name. Just write a person, because guess what
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Speaker 1: women are? People? Whoa what crazy? Crazy? That's interesting, I mean,
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Speaker 1: And that checks out with Ripley's character. Is there's not
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Speaker 1: I don't know there's she's not put upon as a
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Speaker 1: like that's not central to the plot, which I thought
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Speaker 1: was kind of refreshing, Like it is very like cold
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Speaker 1: and unlikable. Yeah, would you never get to see I mean,
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Speaker 1: or if you do it's like extremely demonized, and that's
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Speaker 1: very rarely. You know, the central character, which is nice. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: because people love bad boys, bad boy, people love seven
12:17
Speaker 1: seasons of a prestige bad boy. But we never get
12:21
Speaker 1: we never get even ninety minutes of a bad girl. Yeah. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: back to the very good recap. It's okay. We encourage tangents.
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Speaker 1: That's what this podcast is all about. So they're on
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Speaker 1: a ship and they're awoken because there's like a weird
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Speaker 1: distress signal of some sort coming from a planet. So
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Speaker 1: they go to check it out and a few of
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Speaker 1: the guys are like, oh man, what's this weird alien
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Speaker 1: ship it's on this planet. And John Hurt is like,
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Speaker 1: oh man, there's some weird pods. Better go look inside one.
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Speaker 1: And then a weird hand a lien is what I
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Speaker 1: would like to describe it as, or attaches itself to
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Speaker 1: John Hurt's face face hugger ugger, that's what we call
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Speaker 1: him Facebook. And they're like, oh jeez, John, let's get
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Speaker 1: you back to the ship. And Ripley he goes straight
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Speaker 1: through his helmet. Yeah, and the face is a very
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Speaker 1: intimate face. One of the well, I mean those and
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Speaker 1: the pods are like the beginning of the the overt
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Speaker 1: sexual imagery, like really really gross. Oh yeah, there's because
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Speaker 1: pussies are gross. Uh. They're like, we gotta get John
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Speaker 1: back on the ship and Ripley is like, oh, that's
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Speaker 1: kind of like breaking protocol. He's got to go through quarantine.
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Speaker 1: She's straight up as like, no way, that's that's against protocol.
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Speaker 1: That's not happening. No, and it all like everything would
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Speaker 1: have been fine if they just listen to her. But
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Speaker 1: everybody's like what a count Yikes, rules were made to
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Speaker 1: be broken. So we all had killed by alien. Be
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Speaker 1: cool about it? Rip, Yeah, totally. So they've they let
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Speaker 1: him with the face hugged John hurt onto the spacecraft
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Speaker 1: and he's in a comma and they're like how do
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Speaker 1: we get this thing off? And they try to cut
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Speaker 1: it off and then it bleeds acid and they're like,
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Speaker 1: oh funk man, that's crazy. And then all of a
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Speaker 1: sudden he's alive and well again, so like well this
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Speaker 1: is fine, and then he gives birth through his chest.
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Speaker 1: Basically yeah, there's a lot of birth and oh yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: there's just dicks lots of birth. The when the face
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Speaker 1: huggers on him, you know, like so like what's happening
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Speaker 1: is he's impregnated. Yeah, it's impregnant. So he's like basically
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Speaker 1: shoving his face hugger dick down his throat kind And
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Speaker 1: one of the things I find kind of funny about
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Speaker 1: it is after it dies, like after it falls off,
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Speaker 1: and it's just like dead, and I'm like, dude, I
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Speaker 1: get it, like New City right at this point, just like,
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Speaker 1: don't even touch me. I just want to be a
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Speaker 1: dead spider thing. I already juiced down your throat. So
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Speaker 1: that's it for me. Speaking of jizz slick transition, Ian
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Speaker 1: holme ak ash Ak the cyborg robot spoil full of jizz. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: he's got jizz blood, man, the worst kind of blood. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: there's no will and I actually talked about it on
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Speaker 1: the podcast a few weeks ago that we're like, what's
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Speaker 1: the worst kind of sci fi blood? We're both like
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Speaker 1: milk blood, but it's really jizz blood. Yeah, it's the worst,
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Speaker 1: totally covered with Yeah, I just get to head skipping.
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Speaker 1: Take a few screenshots there. Yeah, yeah, just for you know,
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Speaker 1: I feel like that's the kind of screenshot get you
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Speaker 1: to send him like a like like a sexy right
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Speaker 1: i'd be like, oh wow, me after seeing roast, I'm
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Speaker 1: just covered in scoop. Spiritually speaking, yeah, of course. So
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Speaker 1: John hurts like man, things are great, and then he
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Speaker 1: an alien burst out of his chest, killing him, and
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Speaker 1: then the aliens like all right, he I'm gonna go
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Speaker 1: hide over here now. So like, oh, show, we gotta
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Speaker 1: go catch this thing, and the crew starts looking for it,
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Speaker 1: and somehow, in a span of it seems like a
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Speaker 1: few hours, Yeah, come here, it grows to adulthood, and
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Speaker 1: I don't know, a day or something. It's crazy so
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Speaker 1: fast it feels like a day. But I feel like
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Speaker 1: they don't place enough, like you know, like coming of
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Speaker 1: age nostalgia and in regards to how quickly they really
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Speaker 1: don't want to aliens journey was adulthood? Where was? I
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Speaker 1: never realized until you just said that that that was
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Speaker 1: the same alien. I was just like, suddenly, there's all
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Speaker 1: these aliens on the ship, Like I didn't get that
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Speaker 1: it was the same one who grew up. I'm dumb.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they don't. It's it's confusing because it's literally
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Speaker 1: a baby fetus alien basically. And then in the next
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Speaker 1: scene you see it, which is pre probably a few
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Speaker 1: hours later you have gotten like a few like like
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Speaker 1: some like screeching, growing pain sort of moments of it.
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Speaker 1: I feel like that would have a call like like
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Speaker 1: like a shadowy like or like found some some some
17:22
Speaker 1: leftover skins. Well, Harry de San does do that, like yeah,
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Speaker 1: but and I was probably like it's all the aliens.
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Speaker 1: That's like a sci fi horror trope that I like
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Speaker 1: when when creatures are growing and then you see like
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Speaker 1: their their shoulder blade like pop out and and they
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Speaker 1: shed and there's more goop. I think that that's my
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Speaker 1: generalization of the genre, just with the pussy goop. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: pussy give it a little dick goup to. Yeah, well,
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Speaker 1: the full size alien is a dick with a pussy
17:54
Speaker 1: with is Oh wait is this for children? I think,
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Speaker 1: uh no, yes, we have an audience that reaches like
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Speaker 1: ages seven to twelve, so we're gonna have to a
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Speaker 1: is a nanny with a cuckoo. And I have never
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Speaker 1: heard any of those words to describe any genitalia. I'm
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Speaker 1: having fun. I was like, oh no, am I missing?
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Speaker 1: But they sounded right right, They sounded good, Okay, they
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Speaker 1: that sounded like a fun way to to tell a child.
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Speaker 1: What's to call her? Dick? Hey, nanny nanni and that's
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Speaker 1: a cuckoo? Wait which one's which nanny is? I think
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Speaker 1: a nanny's a dick? And see I was saying the
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Speaker 1: other man, okay, we could do lit r. I was
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Speaker 1: thinking cuckoo because like I was thinking of a woodpecker.
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Speaker 1: Yeah maybe it was. I don't know, yeah either, right,
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Speaker 1: know what? Anything could be? Anything? So the crew goes
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Speaker 1: off looking for this alien and they basically get killed
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Speaker 1: one by one and then Ripley's like, all right, well,
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Speaker 1: I guess I gotta fix everything, and then she escapes
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Speaker 1: into the show old but a little surprise and the
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Speaker 1: aliens there and she's like, well fuck you then and
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Speaker 1: she blows out into space and the end so only
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Speaker 1: she and Jones you the cat survived, except do you
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Speaker 1: know the original ending? The original ending wasting? She makes
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Speaker 1: her final like, um a little statement in the log
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Speaker 1: the original ending is that the same statement, But then
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Speaker 1: the camera reveals that the voice is coming out of
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Speaker 1: the aliens, mad that she is dead and the alien
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Speaker 1: is the only one who's living. And somehow the alien
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Speaker 1: knows how to talk like people, which is it's the
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Speaker 1: goofiest thing, but yeah, and the studio was like, hmmm,
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Speaker 1: that seems goofy, let's not do that. And also it's
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Speaker 1: a bummer so I would have I feel like if
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Speaker 1: Sigourney Weaver's character was a man, I wouldn't mind that ending.
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Speaker 1: Three Well, yeah, I mean it which or bother me
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Speaker 1: less because that's still like a hokey and of like
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Speaker 1: the alien it learned to speak English, which actually is
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Speaker 1: kind of inspiring, and it's grew that fast. It should
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Speaker 1: have a few degrees by the end of the thing. Fact,
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Speaker 1: the alien should have a pH scene. I mean, it's
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Speaker 1: not a good time to mention my master's degree in screenwriting.
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Speaker 1: I don't like to bring it up, but you guys
20:20
Speaker 1: were the ones who mentioned it, so I think I
20:21
Speaker 1: did definitely do not mention my manager for that comment. Okay,
20:27
Speaker 1: we would disagree anyway. Also, the chest burster scene, Um,
20:34
Speaker 1: I can't be the alien person in the world who
20:36
Speaker 1: experienced seeing Spaceballs before seeing this. I also, yeah, so
20:41
Speaker 1: when it happened to Spaceballs, I didn't understand it, but
20:43
Speaker 1: I was like hilarious, and my mom was like, well,
20:48
Speaker 1: it's from this movie, and I was like, don't spoil it.
20:50
Speaker 1: I'm loving it. Yeah. I definitely saw Spaceballs along before
20:53
Speaker 1: I saw Alien and did not really get the reference.
20:55
Speaker 1: But now that I've seen Alien, oh, that seems even
20:58
Speaker 1: more hilarious. There is another like spoofy parody movie that
21:04
Speaker 1: you may be familiar with, hot Shots and Hot Shots
21:07
Speaker 1: Part Do. Hot Shots Part Do is one of my
21:10
Speaker 1: favorite movies ever, and it part Do Part Do and
21:14
Speaker 1: it parodies a number of films that I had not
21:19
Speaker 1: seen when I was but I still thought it was
21:21
Speaker 1: the funniest movie ever. I was like, man, this is hilarious,
21:24
Speaker 1: and then I but I didn't understand any of the references.
21:26
Speaker 1: Cool story, Caitlin. So this is basically a movie about Ripley,
21:35
Speaker 1: like the strong female character being like, hey, you guys,
21:39
Speaker 1: you're dumb. We should we should do this thing. That's
21:41
Speaker 1: the right choice. And everyone's like no, it's like that's
21:44
Speaker 1: really unlikable and it's unattractive, and she's like, oh, but
21:48
Speaker 1: it's the right thing to do, and they're like, we
21:52
Speaker 1: don't like you and you're never going to have your
21:53
Speaker 1: own TV show. And then I'm like, no, wait, this
21:56
Speaker 1: is about her, not me making it away too personally. Um,
22:01
Speaker 1: I mean, can we presume that the reason that the
22:03
Speaker 1: rest of the crew is always like, no, Ripley, We're
22:06
Speaker 1: doing it our way. Who cares about standard procedure. Can
22:10
Speaker 1: we presume that it's because she's a woman. Maybe, I
22:15
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think I don't think it's because
22:17
Speaker 1: she's a woman, because it is like the compassionate choice
22:19
Speaker 1: when they do that there, it's never like should we
22:22
Speaker 1: have cake or pie? It's like should we Yeah, And
22:27
Speaker 1: so it's like I will say that I don't think
22:30
Speaker 1: it's because she's a woman, And I think that's part
22:32
Speaker 1: of the like future utopia they're trying to sell us,
22:35
Speaker 1: where it's like, look, there's all kinds of different ages
22:37
Speaker 1: of people and races of people, and they all work
22:39
Speaker 1: to get in genders of people and they get respected
22:42
Speaker 1: just as like whatever. Yeah, I mean, it's not super
22:45
Speaker 1: surprising to hear that the characters were sort of written
22:48
Speaker 1: with the intention of being not genderless, but um could
22:53
Speaker 1: be a man or a woman just because yeah, Sigourney
22:56
Speaker 1: Waver being a woman does not seem to factor in
23:02
Speaker 1: that much in the way that she's treated. I think
23:04
Speaker 1: that like what's most interesting about her character that wouldn't
23:06
Speaker 1: be interesting per se if she was a man. Was
23:10
Speaker 1: was the coldness and like the clinical like by the
23:14
Speaker 1: book attitude that. Yeah, I mean that would be a
23:17
Speaker 1: character as a man, but it wouldn't be unusual. Yeah,
23:21
Speaker 1: she's straight up on Michael Well. And they literally don't
23:24
Speaker 1: have her save the cat until the end. You must
23:26
Speaker 1: understand that with your degree. And again when I think
23:31
Speaker 1: it must have been so cool to see it and
23:33
Speaker 1: not know anything about it and just be like, who's
23:35
Speaker 1: that bitch? And I guess it's about this Dallas guy.
23:39
Speaker 1: He's the captain. I'm sure that's who this story is
23:41
Speaker 1: all about. Or you know these these fun love and
23:44
Speaker 1: engineer fellas her rapscallions. Um wait, so you guys find
23:49
Speaker 1: her unlikable because I think they kind of like pain.
23:52
Speaker 1: They do. But but she goes on a journey for sure.
23:56
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I'm like, I was on board
23:59
Speaker 1: with her from like minute one. I'm like, yeah, they
24:00
Speaker 1: shouldn't bring this guy who's been attacked by this face
24:03
Speaker 1: hugging alien creature. Yeah, it's probably gonna end poorly. Maybe
24:08
Speaker 1: do I think this because what I what I know
24:11
Speaker 1: of horror sci fi movie? Maybe? I mean, it's not
24:15
Speaker 1: called ship with No Alien on it right, you know
24:18
Speaker 1: when you're starting it, something's happened. But I really could
24:22
Speaker 1: also be that I am an unapologetic rule follower because
24:27
Speaker 1: I'm terrified of authority and I'm just like rules. I
24:30
Speaker 1: love rules. I wish I didn't hate myself because I do.
24:34
Speaker 1: I say f the rules. I like to buck authority.
24:40
Speaker 1: I'm actually the same way. And I did find that
24:43
Speaker 1: a way to kind of relate to her and respect her.
24:47
Speaker 1: But I but you could also see the whole rest
24:50
Speaker 1: of the crew was like in it for each other
24:52
Speaker 1: and like looking out for each other, and she's the
24:54
Speaker 1: one who's being the jerk. The way I saw that
24:57
Speaker 1: dynamic was like she's the boss, and the boss does
25:00
Speaker 1: not break the rules, and all the I guess subordinates
25:05
Speaker 1: as it were, are way more likely to break the rules.
25:08
Speaker 1: But she's not even the boss, Like she's not the
25:10
Speaker 1: captain and the ship or anything like that. She's not
25:12
Speaker 1: even his first command. Until a few other people die
25:16
Speaker 1: ashes like the science officer, I thought she and we
25:19
Speaker 1: sort of like, yeah, I'm not entirely Yeah, I don't
25:23
Speaker 1: really know what her role is because they're the ones
25:25
Speaker 1: who she she's like the they bicker about it. Because
25:29
Speaker 1: he clearly being who and what he is is like filled,
25:35
Speaker 1: let's get him in the ship. Yeah, I want to see.
25:39
Speaker 1: And then when when they bring him in and it's
25:41
Speaker 1: the face hugger through the helmet is just like an
25:44
Speaker 1: egg with a vagina in it. It's like the most there.
25:48
Speaker 1: This is like scary. Yeah. Apparently the pods, you know,
25:55
Speaker 1: the the eggy pod things that they find um and
25:59
Speaker 1: they kind of like open with the four pedals. It
26:02
Speaker 1: originally was just too it was just like yeah, and
26:06
Speaker 1: again the network was like, um, that's too much. Yeah
26:14
Speaker 1: there's yeah. They were like they said that they were
26:17
Speaker 1: scared they wouldn't be able to show it then like
26:19
Speaker 1: Catholic countries or so. Yeah, double the flaps, double the fun,
26:23
Speaker 1: that's what I say. Yeah. Oh I got an audible
26:26
Speaker 1: laugh from Aristotle. I got it. You earned it into
26:32
Speaker 1: Aristotle loves stubble flap. You guys gonna put that on
26:38
Speaker 1: a T shirt And I'm suggesting you should put that
26:39
Speaker 1: on the We're an enamel pin. Those are hip now
26:42
Speaker 1: right Oh yeah, people love the pins. Yeah, buttle picture
26:45
Speaker 1: of the egg the pod and a banner on it
26:48
Speaker 1: that says Aristotle loves double And then just let the
26:53
Speaker 1: people interpret it as sure that was Geiger hr Geiger,
26:58
Speaker 1: is that his name that does? Yes? Yes, yes, yeah.
27:02
Speaker 1: We needed all the like creepy space sex design there
27:05
Speaker 1: there seemed to be I mean, I don't know that,
27:07
Speaker 1: but like the practical effects in this movie we're so cool,
27:12
Speaker 1: especially for the era. Yeah, I mean even the scene
27:15
Speaker 1: where Ash's head is off and his body is like
27:18
Speaker 1: flapping around, um and he's clearly just like there with
27:20
Speaker 1: like the head flap kind of over him, but it
27:23
Speaker 1: still looks kind of flawless. It's pretty cool. Yeah, because
27:27
Speaker 1: there's I mean just a big mess these days. I
27:31
Speaker 1: don't know that. It just looked really I the crap
27:34
Speaker 1: out of it, and it would fake and it would
27:37
Speaker 1: be and the head would be floating. Uh. Yeah. The
27:43
Speaker 1: only part where I was like, oh, this is kind
27:45
Speaker 1: of dumb is like when the baby alien bursts out
27:47
Speaker 1: of the chest and like you see it kind of
27:49
Speaker 1: like scamper across the tape like that, like that it's
27:54
Speaker 1: clearly like someone doing some puppet tree that's not very good,
27:57
Speaker 1: and you're like, cute baby, or even the look like
28:00
Speaker 1: it burst out and it sort of looks at everyone
28:02
Speaker 1: but a baby. Yeah, it's a very like not the mama,
28:10
Speaker 1: are you my mama? And then uh or what's the
28:16
Speaker 1: Alison beckdel book that I can never remember the name of?
28:20
Speaker 1: Are you my mother? Yeah? Okay, yeah, that's what it
28:22
Speaker 1: says when it bursts out of are you my mother? Yeah.
28:26
Speaker 1: I'm just I know that she's that Ripley is not
28:30
Speaker 1: like a warm character. She's like very by the book
28:34
Speaker 1: in terms of but and she does become like more
28:38
Speaker 1: in the Director's Cat there's a scene where, um, man,
28:40
Speaker 1: what's the other woman's name, Lambie now, where she straight
28:44
Speaker 1: up hits her when they come back in, just slaps
28:47
Speaker 1: her across the jaw. Yeah. I made a note that, like,
28:51
Speaker 1: it was kind of a bummer to see, like the
28:53
Speaker 1: two women characters that there are in this movie be
28:56
Speaker 1: kind of hostile to each other. But then I was like, wait,
28:59
Speaker 1: Ripley's just stile towards everyone because she's almost always telling
29:02
Speaker 1: someone to funk off or screening at their face, and
29:06
Speaker 1: it's justified. I think that, you know, women should these
29:10
Speaker 1: female characters should be allowed to have to be a
29:12
Speaker 1: full range. You don't always you're I also find it
29:16
Speaker 1: a little um obnoxious when it's all like cat fighting.
29:19
Speaker 1: But I didn't feel like that. No, no, I don't
29:21
Speaker 1: think that's happening here. Yeah, that was just really like,
29:24
Speaker 1: if you want to be real technical about it, not
29:26
Speaker 1: the only female character mother the ship, Mother the ship.
29:33
Speaker 1: So I was really hoping Jones was a girl cat
29:37
Speaker 1: so we could just have one more. Did they Did
29:39
Speaker 1: they nail down with the kind of cat? No? I
29:42
Speaker 1: guess not, but jon Z, maybe I just assumed based
29:46
Speaker 1: on the name that it was a boycat. But and
29:49
Speaker 1: again in Aliens, the cat becomes a little girl. I mean,
29:52
Speaker 1: it doesn't become a little girl, but like the same
29:54
Speaker 1: trans figures and to a girl. Like same role as
29:59
Speaker 1: Power one. The same role is done, but the plot
30:04
Speaker 1: device is a little girl instead. Oh and then um,
30:07
Speaker 1: and then yeah, the Queen Bee is a lady, a lady,
30:13
Speaker 1: she say, she calls mother a bit in this I
30:16
Speaker 1: think she calls the alien a bit to get away
30:18
Speaker 1: from your bit. YEA great line. Basically, I just like
30:22
Speaker 1: how throughout the entire story, Ripley is given a bunch
30:26
Speaker 1: of agency. She's making decisions that are usually not obeyed,
30:31
Speaker 1: but she's definitely playing an active, like a very active
30:35
Speaker 1: role in the story. So we're used to seeing female
30:39
Speaker 1: characters like, you know, I want to like, I'm just
30:43
Speaker 1: gonna sit here and not really do anything. You can
30:45
Speaker 1: stress about the decision, right, But she's just like, this
30:49
Speaker 1: is what we're doing. Listen to me, this is what
30:51
Speaker 1: has to happen. No one does and they pay the
30:54
Speaker 1: price for it. Yeah. So I just thought it was
30:57
Speaker 1: super cool to see her being like, funck off, you guys,
31:01
Speaker 1: listen to me, here's the right choice. Do what I say.
31:05
Speaker 1: You're painting a picture of yourself, like Ripley is badass.
31:12
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk a little bit about Lambert because
31:15
Speaker 1: of I read some background on her character, because I
31:19
Speaker 1: guess that Veronica cart Right arrived on set believing she
31:23
Speaker 1: was going to play Ripley and then they were like, actually, sorry,
31:29
Speaker 1: bitch your Lambert, and she was not happy with it.
31:32
Speaker 1: And but particular took issue with the character of Lambert
31:37
Speaker 1: and how Lambert is more fearful and expresses a lot
31:42
Speaker 1: of the fear. And I guess the function of that
31:44
Speaker 1: character or the way she was written was, you know,
31:48
Speaker 1: she represents the audience and like what we're feeling. Um,
31:53
Speaker 1: But I guess that Veronica cart Right took issue with
31:56
Speaker 1: that of like, why does that have to be the
31:59
Speaker 1: only female care trip besides Ripley Slash. What didn't no
32:02
Speaker 1: one tell me? I'm definitely that's the big question. That's
32:06
Speaker 1: actually what happened. Um, Because on the other hand, you
32:09
Speaker 1: could make a case for it's very interesting to have
32:11
Speaker 1: the audience to to expect the audience to relate to
32:14
Speaker 1: these two female characters in the most significant ways in
32:17
Speaker 1: this sci fi alien movie. Instead, because yeah, I didn't
32:21
Speaker 1: really feel any connection with anything that one except maybe
32:24
Speaker 1: Ash because we're introduced to him mostly as the one
32:28
Speaker 1: who's kind of pushing against Ripley. Everybody else was like
32:31
Speaker 1: they seem like cool dudes. I also find it interesting
32:37
Speaker 1: that it was it's a very classist kind of movie
32:40
Speaker 1: that you. I mean, they kind of moved away from that.
32:42
Speaker 1: But the whole beginning is then being like, you know,
32:43
Speaker 1: how many shares do we get? Like clearly they were
32:46
Speaker 1: willing to do whatever within reason just to get this payday.
32:51
Speaker 1: There's no executives aboard, there's no like higher socio economic
32:56
Speaker 1: class people in there. Um. The guy who comes across
33:00
Speaker 1: as though he is the one with the British accent,
33:01
Speaker 1: who seems much fancier he's not a human, right, it's
33:05
Speaker 1: not a person at all. I love the fancy British.
33:10
Speaker 1: It's the best. They couldn't program him to have an
33:13
Speaker 1: American accent on the design right there, Like he's he's fancy,
33:17
Speaker 1: and that's the hint that you should have picked up
33:19
Speaker 1: on the whole time, the only fancy one. Of course,
33:23
Speaker 1: he's an Andrews. They're an evil people, yes, the fancies. God,
33:27
Speaker 1: that's like Bill Knight and so many movies, especially my
33:31
Speaker 1: favorite bad movie I Frankenstein. Where boy, is that a
33:36
Speaker 1: remarkably bad one? I love like, that's a fun one.
33:40
Speaker 1: That's a fun bad I got one of my one
33:42
Speaker 1: of my biggest Twitter pops everr was after I walked
33:45
Speaker 1: out of that and tweeted that it was the best
33:47
Speaker 1: movie ever written by an Evanescence album in the Sega Genesis,
33:52
Speaker 1: and it's still one of my top ranking tweets. It's
33:56
Speaker 1: a good one. I didn't know why people cared about that.
34:02
Speaker 1: It was a fun one. And also that was like
34:06
Speaker 1: the kind of peaceful cinematic experience where like there was
34:09
Speaker 1: never anyone else in the theater to experience. I Frankenstein
34:15
Speaker 1: felt very personal. Oh my God, like that movie, and
34:20
Speaker 1: they thought that they you know, they thought that they
34:22
Speaker 1: were like launching a franch franchise because they left it
34:26
Speaker 1: open beds, like who you know, Frankenstein Frankenstein. They Frankenstein Frankenstein.
34:40
Speaker 1: But Bill Knight in that movie? Anyways? Is is the
34:42
Speaker 1: fancy man who that wonderful thing? Like Christopher Walking and
34:47
Speaker 1: Jeelie do they are they aware that they're in a movie?
34:51
Speaker 1: Did they just walk in there, like say something British
34:54
Speaker 1: and he's like all right, and then I like say
34:56
Speaker 1: something science e and then he does that and then
34:59
Speaker 1: he just steals a b just food from craft services
35:01
Speaker 1: and goes home like that's the kind of anyways. By
35:04
Speaker 1: the way, I'm pretty sure it's the fancy guy. I'm
35:06
Speaker 1: pretty sure you hold the record for number of references
35:10
Speaker 1: anyone who has made ever. I wait, when you said
35:15
Speaker 1: I feel bad, I say it like when everyone's like,
35:17
Speaker 1: oh yeah, Christopher Walking and Jeli when you were evasive
35:19
Speaker 1: about your wheelhouse, did you mean it was Jelie? I
35:23
Speaker 1: think it might be only the films of Martin Brest
35:27
Speaker 1: are really speak to me. Titanic and is what your wheelhouse? Man? Yeah?
35:35
Speaker 1: I have to unsubscribe from HBO now because I told
35:38
Speaker 1: myself I would do it when The Little Lives was over.
35:41
Speaker 1: But unfortunately, I do want to watch the Jinks again,
35:47
Speaker 1: the whole thing, the whole thing. I've seen it nine times,
35:49
Speaker 1: but it's time to see it ten times. I gotta
35:52
Speaker 1: crossover in a double days baby anyway, Well, oh yeah,
36:00
Speaker 1: in I just want to keep harping that. I just
36:05
Speaker 1: love how persistent she is, because like everyone keeps feeling like, no, Ripley,
36:10
Speaker 1: shut up, We're gonna stay this life, and she's just like, no,
36:12
Speaker 1: you're putting us all in danger. Yeah, she doesn't doubt herself.
36:15
Speaker 1: That's pretty impressive. Also impressive was how white the white
36:19
Speaker 1: areas of the ship were constantly given, how dirty and
36:23
Speaker 1: nasty the rest of the ship was, and that there
36:25
Speaker 1: was no cleaning crew, the janitorial situation there. I would
36:30
Speaker 1: have loved, I really. I tweeted about this morning. I
36:33
Speaker 1: got so many actualise from dudes. I was like, I'm
36:35
Speaker 1: taking this down fine, because I was like, it's too pristine.
36:38
Speaker 1: This and Discovery one from two thousand one, just like
36:43
Speaker 1: pristine and white spaceship interiors, and it's like, I don't know,
36:47
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe I'm filthy, but I have white walls
36:50
Speaker 1: and I gotta I gotta touch those up. From time
36:52
Speaker 1: to time they turned to eggshell. And especially if you're
36:57
Speaker 1: going from moon or into pods, there's no footprints, no
37:05
Speaker 1: nothing coming on, and then the dirty parts are like
37:08
Speaker 1: very dirty, gusting. Yeah, yeah, especially when yeah, there's I
37:11
Speaker 1: mean there's distribute that there's a little bit blood spraying everywhere,
37:16
Speaker 1: there's acid blood. Who's cleaning it? And which just eventually
37:20
Speaker 1: you got enough jizz blood, enough acid blood, you know,
37:22
Speaker 1: there's got to be acid jizz someplace. That's true, or
37:26
Speaker 1: acid jazz pretty much the same. Did you know that
37:32
Speaker 1: the genre of music in the Cantina in Star Wars
37:35
Speaker 1: is called jizz jizz? Yeah? Really? Yeah? You know if
37:41
Speaker 1: straight z that's that's smooth rocking jazz right there. Yeah,
37:46
Speaker 1: Oh man, I want to that's a j jazz. I
37:48
Speaker 1: want to play some some jizz, super intiz, super into
37:52
Speaker 1: jiz music. Guys. Oh, that'd be great. Yeah. If if
37:55
Speaker 1: someone asked you what you're like, they're like, what do
37:57
Speaker 1: you listen to you? They're like, oh, we're gonna, we're
38:01
Speaker 1: just we're just getting to it. Is it called jez?
38:04
Speaker 1: And the way that like elevator music is called like
38:07
Speaker 1: music is that Maybe I don't know, it's just it's
38:10
Speaker 1: it's one of those like the world, sort of the
38:13
Speaker 1: Star Wars world. I'm disappointing Aristotle so intensely because it
38:18
Speaker 1: means so much more to him than thinking about double flaps.
38:21
Speaker 1: So yeah, Ariostole is putting on his triggered hat right now. Yeah,
38:27
Speaker 1: it's people who love Star Wars so much. They've just
38:29
Speaker 1: created every Every question that could be asked about Star
38:32
Speaker 1: Wars has been answered someplace and agreed in the Star
38:36
Speaker 1: Wars universe. That's what that type of music is. Like.
38:39
Speaker 1: No one there's never a scene where somebody's like, hey,
38:41
Speaker 1: what are those fools playing in the corner and someone
38:43
Speaker 1: else is like, don't you know that's jizz. It's just
38:48
Speaker 1: something that you know if you if you google it though,
38:50
Speaker 1: that's the answer you look at and I get it.
38:52
Speaker 1: I gotta gotta ripley self assurance. I found very compelling
38:56
Speaker 1: and good to why you know, it's it's it's great
38:59
Speaker 1: to see it seem like character They that, but it
39:00
Speaker 1: didn't make me it harder for me to relate to her.
39:02
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, because she's so good at her
39:04
Speaker 1: job and so on it and knows the rules backwards
39:07
Speaker 1: and forwards, but the I don't know, like and this
39:10
Speaker 1: isn't even a criticism, but it's you know, I'm pretty
39:13
Speaker 1: good at my job, but I feel like I only hesitate,
39:16
Speaker 1: like there's so many, you know, points in any day
39:20
Speaker 1: where you're just like, like like there was I don't know,
39:23
Speaker 1: maybe I would have liked to maybe see like a
39:26
Speaker 1: crack like in a character of any gender, though well
39:29
Speaker 1: I think that it Also it's a little bit more
39:32
Speaker 1: justified in the sequel, when she's already gone through all
39:35
Speaker 1: of this and so she's she's not, she has more
39:38
Speaker 1: even more reason to be like, no, I'm sure you
39:41
Speaker 1: really got to me. This is gonna suck. But this
39:44
Speaker 1: is her first rodeo in regards to a lot of
39:48
Speaker 1: jizz music or oh no, not the music, the explosive
39:54
Speaker 1: milk blood okay, yes, yeah, oh yeah. And this is
39:57
Speaker 1: where again in the sequel, you know, when she's confronted
39:59
Speaker 1: with Android, she's like, I hate you guys. No, I'm
40:02
Speaker 1: not gonna you can't be on the chip. Um and
40:04
Speaker 1: he's like, but I'm a nice one, and he does
40:07
Speaker 1: and um, but also we do see his just his
40:11
Speaker 1: blood too. But I think one of the weirdest scenes
40:16
Speaker 1: in the movie that I was like, we don't need
40:18
Speaker 1: this was the magazine rape. Yeah, I was very I
40:24
Speaker 1: guess he was choking her. Yeah, but yeah, like you
40:29
Speaker 1: got hands, man, if you got hands to if you
40:31
Speaker 1: have hands to hold a rolled up magazine and try
40:33
Speaker 1: to shove in a woman's mouth, you have hands to
40:35
Speaker 1: wrap around her neck and choke her that way that
40:37
Speaker 1: speaks volumes. Thank you, I did. You can put it
40:40
Speaker 1: on a pin. It's going to be along with them,
40:43
Speaker 1: it's two pins. Like, yeah, I found that to be
40:46
Speaker 1: a very confusing way to try to like suffocate or kill.
40:49
Speaker 1: I think that there was just a nut. They were like, oh,
40:51
Speaker 1: we've gone a couple of minutes without rape imagery. What
40:53
Speaker 1: can we do? Oh? I know, They're like, let's pay
40:56
Speaker 1: tribute to the genre and traditionally you can't break too
41:03
Speaker 1: many brriers because yeah, it wouldn't suffocate her. You can
41:06
Speaker 1: still because it's a rolled up magazine's I mean it hurt,
41:10
Speaker 1: it would be uncomfortable. Also, were her arms pinned down?
41:14
Speaker 1: Why was she not? I think she she was. I
41:18
Speaker 1: feels like an easy thing to fight off. Easily then
41:22
Speaker 1: when everybody comes in and yeah, yeah, yeah Parker. So
41:25
Speaker 1: I don't know if like robots have super strength or
41:28
Speaker 1: if they do, then again, choke her. That's so much.
41:32
Speaker 1: But I mean, like how we're advocating for it's just
41:38
Speaker 1: a very cooker. It's like handy, this happens in every episode,
41:42
Speaker 1: and it's like them cos like really Scott or whoever
41:46
Speaker 1: made this choice was like challenging themselves to like, what's
41:50
Speaker 1: a more creative way, what's more out of the box
41:53
Speaker 1: way to get a rape on the screen, Like we've
41:55
Speaker 1: already had the face hugger. Jeez, what's next? I guess yeah,
41:59
Speaker 1: this magazine thing. Now, let's talk about the part where
42:04
Speaker 1: John Hurt. A man gets essentially impregnated by an alien
42:09
Speaker 1: species and then essentially gives birth to it. Beautiful, beautiful
42:14
Speaker 1: thing in any man's life. It's just a natural, partial time.
42:20
Speaker 1: I gotta say, as someone who is terrified at the
42:25
Speaker 1: just very idea of childbirth, I really enjoyed having to
42:30
Speaker 1: see a man sort of go through with it. You see,
42:32
Speaker 1: that's like, now you know that pain. It seemed less
42:36
Speaker 1: painful to me the idea of actual childbirth because it
42:40
Speaker 1: came through his chest, not as nanny or as cuckoo
42:44
Speaker 1: and dying not having to raise that would have been fun, though.
42:51
Speaker 1: He was like, sorry, guys, I gotta go. I got
42:53
Speaker 1: somebody to take care of. No, yeah, I don't know.
43:00
Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many just like sources of horror
43:04
Speaker 1: in this movie that don't come just from like this
43:07
Speaker 1: big alien attacking people, which is one of the ian
43:13
Speaker 1: It's the nies and the cuckoos, right, that's where all
43:16
Speaker 1: the Christmas, where all the terror comes, I mean, And
43:18
Speaker 1: it really that bummed me out because I was like, oh, no,
43:21
Speaker 1: our pussies like intrinsically terrifying, because like when they looked
43:25
Speaker 1: into when they went into the it was an alien
43:28
Speaker 1: ship they went into right when they when they leave
43:30
Speaker 1: their ship. I think that they did, yeah, because there's
43:33
Speaker 1: like the there's the space Jackie there and it's it
43:37
Speaker 1: looks terrifying. And I was like, if they had walked
43:40
Speaker 1: into a thing that was like full of broken glass
43:42
Speaker 1: and like swords and sticks all point, it would have
43:45
Speaker 1: been more physically dangerous, but it would not be as terrifying.
43:48
Speaker 1: It wouldn't cause as much like terror and uncomfortableity as
43:52
Speaker 1: this thing that's like looks like pussies. Right, they're walking
43:56
Speaker 1: into two huge vaginas and then the walls are all
43:58
Speaker 1: you know, with the production design is very higd, very spooky.
44:03
Speaker 1: Giger is a real weird though. He's a real for sure.
44:08
Speaker 1: That must have been they were like, we gotta make
44:09
Speaker 1: this movie. Oh you know who's a perv? We should
44:12
Speaker 1: call up there us? But yeah, and so I was
44:18
Speaker 1: because like, like you know how humans are like hardwired
44:22
Speaker 1: to hate snakes, and the in any language will get attention.
44:27
Speaker 1: And with most animals too. If you're having trouble with
44:30
Speaker 1: your cat and you're like get off the counter and
44:32
Speaker 1: he just won't listen, try throwing us at him, they
44:36
Speaker 1: really don't like it. Yeah, because it sounds like a snake.
44:39
Speaker 1: And everything that is evolved. This is what I have
44:42
Speaker 1: read that everything that's evolved now that is currently an
44:45
Speaker 1: existing species. We're the ones who have not been murdered
44:48
Speaker 1: by snakes, um, among other things other predators. But snakes
44:53
Speaker 1: are the ones that they're just all over the place.
44:55
Speaker 1: They they're they're they're trying to get everybody. So we
44:58
Speaker 1: are hard wired to dislike snakes. So the way they move,
45:00
Speaker 1: you can't figure out how they how they moved, except
45:03
Speaker 1: for like neighborhood we weed dealers who love snakes. Yeah,
45:07
Speaker 1: but even that, I feel like those people are like
45:10
Speaker 1: doing it to test themselves. Like, yeah, I don't, I'm
45:13
Speaker 1: not even because you know their one has a pet
45:15
Speaker 1: snake and doesn't tell everyone about it. But in the
45:19
Speaker 1: same way, I was like, oh, no, are we hardwired
45:21
Speaker 1: to be grossed out by pussies? Um, coming from someone
45:28
Speaker 1: who does not find pussies sexually attractive, I'm not sure.
45:33
Speaker 1: I'm not grossed out by them, even though they are disgusting.
45:38
Speaker 1: Dicks are much grosser, though, I think, well, yeah, I
45:42
Speaker 1: mean we had some gross dicks in there too, I
45:45
Speaker 1: mean their heads. That's like, come on, take a second pass.
45:48
Speaker 1: That's just so obvious. Well, it's like double dicks, Like
45:54
Speaker 1: it's like Aristotle is double flaps. The scene where after
45:59
Speaker 1: the face hugger alien has like dislodged itself from John
46:03
Speaker 1: Hurt's face and comed all into his throat and it's dead.
46:08
Speaker 1: It's dead, and they're like kind of poking and prodding
46:10
Speaker 1: and it to be like it's like stop, I can't
46:13
Speaker 1: right now, I just down, give me, just need a
46:20
Speaker 1: few minutes. I mean it's very vaginal slash volvic. I'm
46:24
Speaker 1: going to bring that word into just it's not a word.
46:27
Speaker 1: Is that a bot? I was like, can I stick
46:31
Speaker 1: poke that word into my life? So I don't forget it.
46:33
Speaker 1: I often say whenever people say vagina, what they mean
46:38
Speaker 1: to say is vulva. It's like saying throat when you
46:44
Speaker 1: mean neck exactly, or throat when you mean face or mouth.
46:48
Speaker 1: There's nothing I don't anyway. Vulvic is a new word.
46:52
Speaker 1: That is, it is a thing now. So you're welcome, everybody.
46:58
Speaker 1: The end, Okay, kayle and I loved that story. Thank you. Hey.
47:03
Speaker 1: Does anyone have any like final thoughts about the movie?
47:07
Speaker 1: If you haven't seen it yet, we ruined. Yeah, it's
47:10
Speaker 1: ruined for you, um, but you should see it. If
47:13
Speaker 1: you're a fan of Group, if you're a fan of
47:15
Speaker 1: Sigourney Weaver or a fine looking Tom Scarrett really look
47:19
Speaker 1: at that hot history teacher. Yeah, if you're a fan
47:23
Speaker 1: of deceptive fancy men. And I mean if it's a
47:29
Speaker 1: fun I mean it's a fun movie. As a person
47:31
Speaker 1: that's not that into the genre, I enjoyed this movie. Okay,
47:35
Speaker 1: I want to say that, I dude, enjoy very much
47:38
Speaker 1: that the last three remain like surviving characters are two
47:43
Speaker 1: women and a black guy because all the other four
47:46
Speaker 1: white dudes they're like, bye, you know, yeah, wasn't Hubris?
47:51
Speaker 1: Who knows? But they did? They got dead, they did.
47:54
Speaker 1: They got their diet very did. That's all that matters.
47:58
Speaker 1: As long as they get diad cool. Hey does the
48:02
Speaker 1: movie pass the Bechdel Test? I say yes. With flying colors?
48:07
Speaker 1: With flying colors, yeah, I mean there's a there's no
48:10
Speaker 1: question about whether or not it passes, because I do
48:12
Speaker 1: agree that it does. There's a couple of different scenes
48:14
Speaker 1: were Ripley and Lambert talk to each other, but mother,
48:18
Speaker 1: what did you throw? Mother? There? That's where I'm talking
48:21
Speaker 1: flying colure because she's never like, Mother, how's Dallas? I
48:26
Speaker 1: worried about his feelings? She's like, shut this down? What
48:30
Speaker 1: are we doing? Well? There's sometimes I feel like I'm
48:33
Speaker 1: never gonna start dating mother. I know it's going to
48:37
Speaker 1: make a weird period joke. Something's happening to my past,
48:42
Speaker 1: can you uh? Yeah. There's a scene towards the beginning
48:48
Speaker 1: whenever they have woken up and they're like, where are
48:50
Speaker 1: we even? Ripley is like, that's not our system. That's
48:54
Speaker 1: not that we're not in the right solar system or
48:56
Speaker 1: that's that's the first clue things are wrong. And then
49:00
Speaker 1: Lambert is like, I know that, So that's a conversation
49:05
Speaker 1: do iman are talking about? Not a man? And then
49:08
Speaker 1: later on the other part that I noted where it
49:11
Speaker 1: passes the test is when it's after Dallas dies and
49:15
Speaker 1: Ripley's like, we're just gonna proceed with Dallas's plan. We're
49:18
Speaker 1: going to try to trap this alien in like the
49:20
Speaker 1: air events, get the alien where we can't see it
49:24
Speaker 1: and there has access to the entire ship. It's a
49:27
Speaker 1: great plan, perfect And then Lambert's like, and end up
49:31
Speaker 1: dead like the others, you're out of your mind. And
49:34
Speaker 1: Repy's like, you got a better idea. And then she's like, yeah,
49:36
Speaker 1: that's abandon the ship. And everyone's like, so that's a
49:40
Speaker 1: like un conversation. But like, there may be other scenes
49:43
Speaker 1: where it passes the test, but those are the only
49:45
Speaker 1: two that I really nobody up on two. But I
49:48
Speaker 1: also wrote down Mother. I don't know if I'm willing
49:52
Speaker 1: to count Mother. It was it wasn't. First of all,
49:58
Speaker 1: it was named, which is part of this, So it
50:00
Speaker 1: wasn't just like computer, and they decided to gender it.
50:05
Speaker 1: They could have called it X five seven And in
50:08
Speaker 1: two thousand one it's how do you think? How? And
50:11
Speaker 1: mother they fuck in time In SpongeBob's Carrepants, it's Karen
50:17
Speaker 1: oh Flankton's computer wife. Cool. So anyways, I'm more of
50:21
Speaker 1: a cartoon person. There's a there's a computer friend in
50:26
Speaker 1: um that movie Moon as well, that Kevin Spacey the
50:30
Speaker 1: boys computer. To forget what his name is, though, I
50:32
Speaker 1: just remember that the landing pod that he's waiting for
50:35
Speaker 1: is Eliza. So through the whole movie, they're like, Eliza
50:39
Speaker 1: is a lot closer, and I'm like, stop to get there,
50:42
Speaker 1: and you keep saying it cool. Yes, the movie passes
50:49
Speaker 1: the Bechtel tests. We are now going to rate the
50:54
Speaker 1: movie on our nipple scale. So we have a scale
50:59
Speaker 1: that is zero to five nipples. We read it based
51:02
Speaker 1: on it. Who is that? That's not right? It? Okay,
51:12
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. This is a
51:14
Speaker 1: great scale to be rating a movie on, and I
51:17
Speaker 1: feel like you should never have nipples and fives that's
51:20
Speaker 1: not the number that they should ever come in. It's
51:24
Speaker 1: like a pegleg of nipples. So Nates. You just got
51:28
Speaker 1: one and then the other one is Wooden. Kay, all right,
51:31
Speaker 1: yeah it's not the same, but it gets the job done.
51:34
Speaker 1: So it's like it's like three and a half women
51:37
Speaker 1: three Yeah, yeah, I give it three and a half women.
51:42
Speaker 1: Yeah is that your real? Okay? Cool? Wait, assuming that
51:47
Speaker 1: women have two nipples each, so wait, that's like seven nipples.
51:54
Speaker 1: Wait one to three, four, five, three and a half
51:57
Speaker 1: times two? Said two and a half? Oh oh sorry,
52:00
Speaker 1: I think it's a three and a half. Did I
52:01
Speaker 1: say I will never know? There's no way to go
52:04
Speaker 1: for us, you know? Yeah, half women? I like, I
52:08
Speaker 1: will say that this most recent viewing, and some of them,
52:11
Speaker 1: I feel like this is a movie. This is so
52:13
Speaker 1: gross as a movie. Gussie on the big screen. I
52:16
Speaker 1: got to see you on the big screen, and I
52:17
Speaker 1: tried to watch this during the day in my apartment
52:20
Speaker 1: flooded with light, so it waited for night. Yeah. I'm
52:24
Speaker 1: giving it an idealized five. I'm gonna maybe don't give
52:30
Speaker 1: it a half. I'm going to walk out, but I'm
52:36
Speaker 1: going to give it a whole number. Okay, and it is.
52:40
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to give it a four based
52:42
Speaker 1: on its portrayal of the women in it. Um. I
52:44
Speaker 1: do think Ripley is a total badass. I like that
52:49
Speaker 1: she is very persistent and she's intuitive. She knows I
52:54
Speaker 1: mean maybe it's women's intuition. Is that even a thing?
52:57
Speaker 1: I don't know, do I have any I don't make
52:59
Speaker 1: a mistake. She's just smart, right, she's smart. She's good
53:02
Speaker 1: at her job, and she is persistent, and I really
53:06
Speaker 1: enjoy seeing that on screen. She sort of Elizabeth Warren type,
53:10
Speaker 1: is what she never said. Oh yeah, right, I don't
53:14
Speaker 1: know how quotes were. Yeah, if I had any like
53:20
Speaker 1: complaints about it, I guess I don't know. I just
53:22
Speaker 1: I was like maybe helping to see the relationship with
53:26
Speaker 1: the other female character to be like a little less hostile.
53:28
Speaker 1: But that's not really who really is. So I'm just
53:32
Speaker 1: like nitpicking here. I think it maybe deserves a five nipple.
53:35
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Get back to me. I'll tell you
53:38
Speaker 1: in a month. Okay, I'll give it. I'm gonna give
53:41
Speaker 1: it for But they're all they're all sliced down the middle.
53:44
Speaker 1: Oh no likes just no crusts. Well there shouldn't be
53:54
Speaker 1: crust on them either. I mean, I don't I just
53:56
Speaker 1: I supports crusty nipple. I just I wanted to need
54:01
Speaker 1: a bucket? Where how is this four of them? And
54:04
Speaker 1: then you just what's the name of the production designer
54:08
Speaker 1: who who also production podcast put a little crest in
54:17
Speaker 1: there if that's his favous call for he has a
54:21
Speaker 1: four because, um, I like the genderless aspect to all
54:26
Speaker 1: of the characters, but that means that we don't really
54:30
Speaker 1: get a lot of perspective on gender in the way
54:35
Speaker 1: that a five nipple movie usually Well maybe maybe the
54:38
Speaker 1: perspective is it gets to be defined by the individual,
54:43
Speaker 1: right maybe, yeah, maybe this movie, just to be clear,
54:49
Speaker 1: it is raising the roof right now. Yeah, I mean
54:54
Speaker 1: maybe one day we'll all live in a society where
54:57
Speaker 1: our gender doesn't even need to be recognized. Probably not
55:00
Speaker 1: though probably No, No, it's the We're like four or
55:05
Speaker 1: five months away from a handmaids Tale. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
55:08
Speaker 1: I've not seen that, but I did recently see A
55:10
Speaker 1: Night's Tale, so I think I'm caught up the same thing.
55:14
Speaker 1: I think they have seen the Hulu one, But I
55:16
Speaker 1: highly recommend the book terrific very much. Upset you right now.
55:21
Speaker 1: It feels like a not too far away dystopian future.
55:25
Speaker 1: What am I going to recommend this week? I'm gonna
55:27
Speaker 1: recommend season two of Golden Girls and The Jinks preferably.
55:33
Speaker 1: Do you like the back to back to back to
55:35
Speaker 1: back to back? Yes? This? Well? I okay, I have
55:38
Speaker 1: a Jinks viewing planned with my friend this weekend and
55:42
Speaker 1: it's the best way to watch the Jinks is the
55:44
Speaker 1: Jinks with no bathroom breaks. Oh right, So do you
55:47
Speaker 1: guys talk during it at all? Or is there no speaking? Oh,
55:50
Speaker 1: it's more like screaming. Okay, if you scream at the
55:53
Speaker 1: same time, do you ever, Um, well, I've never watched
55:56
Speaker 1: it with this person before. I was about into a
56:01
Speaker 1: very long explanation of like, well, sometimes you know if
56:05
Speaker 1: it's someone you've watched it with before. And I work
56:08
Speaker 1: with a bunch of British people because of the Late
56:10
Speaker 1: Late show, and then also this s been off show
56:11
Speaker 1: that I worked on. The British people like employing other
56:14
Speaker 1: British people. But there's a lot of that kind of
56:16
Speaker 1: stuff about American culture. They don't know Jinks. Yeah. Oh interesting,
56:20
Speaker 1: So I lied a lot about the different things that
56:23
Speaker 1: you could get done with the chains. That's great, yep,
56:27
Speaker 1: I love I love a good like slow Burn white
56:31
Speaker 1: lie that'll embarrass them like months in the future. And
56:36
Speaker 1: I got him the showrunner on the show, very nice guy,
56:39
Speaker 1: but he got him so nervous about what phrases were
56:42
Speaker 1: actually not used here. He would be like, m well,
56:47
Speaker 1: I'm going to go get a mug of coffee. Do
56:49
Speaker 1: you say that? Do you say muggy here? What is
56:51
Speaker 1: that a bit of coffee? Wait? I just thought something
56:56
Speaker 1: else about the movie that I have to say. It
56:57
Speaker 1: takes longer for the alien fetus to like just j
57:02
Speaker 1: in John Hurt's chest than it does for the baby
57:05
Speaker 1: to reach adulthood. That that's why you know, that's a
57:09
Speaker 1: precious life you can want us inside. I mean, life
57:15
Speaker 1: begins hug face, hug whenever a weird alien species comes
57:21
Speaker 1: into your throat and plants a baby in your chest.
57:25
Speaker 1: It's just what mommy told you, right, Yeah, oh man,
57:28
Speaker 1: this is ripe dirty talk too. Yeah. Yeah, next time
57:32
Speaker 1: you're with the with the fella, tell me want to
57:35
Speaker 1: make them plant his alien seed in your guts, in
57:38
Speaker 1: your face hug me. I shudder to think how many
57:44
Speaker 1: different disturbing way as a man could interpret that sence. Um,
57:49
Speaker 1: he's hung me. Also, um like they since it sounds
57:56
Speaker 1: like you guys are kind of new to hr gagor
57:58
Speaker 1: this is like kind of the first time you here,
58:00
Speaker 1: uh the mark of a real creepy dorm room. A
58:03
Speaker 1: Geiger poster? Interesting? What other movies has he done? It's
58:06
Speaker 1: not a movie like you could if you google him,
58:08
Speaker 1: you'll find like lots of concept art m and uh.
58:13
Speaker 1: Like when I was in school, at least they would
58:16
Speaker 1: have those poster affairs for all the kids to go
58:19
Speaker 1: and decorate their post or less rooms. And there's always
58:23
Speaker 1: a bunch of Gaiger stuff. Every poster in a college
58:25
Speaker 1: room is the morning Horn. Yes for these sticky robots.
58:35
Speaker 1: It's just a bunch of sticky robots. My college roommate
58:38
Speaker 1: had a cardboard cutout of major pain and our room
58:43
Speaker 1: for a full year and then I never asked her
58:46
Speaker 1: how she got it. But eventually it started next to
58:49
Speaker 1: her bed, which I didn't like. But then it started
58:51
Speaker 1: to inch out into the room, which I really didn't like,
58:54
Speaker 1: and then at some point I was like, I like it.
58:57
Speaker 1: You want me over, Eliza, Thanks a ton for being here,
59:01
Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks a that for having me. Where can
59:04
Speaker 1: people find you on the internet. They can find me
59:06
Speaker 1: on Twitter at Addie Eliza Skinner or on Instagram at
59:10
Speaker 1: at the Skins. Shouldn't shouldn't have done that, should have
59:12
Speaker 1: made it all the same thing, but it didn't. And
59:14
Speaker 1: they can listen to my podcast, Angry Little Goats. That's right. Hey,
59:17
Speaker 1: what's making you a happy little goat today? Oh? Wow? Today,
59:22
Speaker 1: I don't have to answer. I mean, I recommend The
59:25
Speaker 1: Handmaiden's Tale, but I feel like I've done that a lot. Actually,
59:28
Speaker 1: I really want to go watch all of the Alien
59:30
Speaker 1: movies now because also the the new one coming out.
59:32
Speaker 1: I'm very excited for hoping it will be a redemption
59:35
Speaker 1: from the awful that I have not seen. Alien three.
59:41
Speaker 1: Oh that's the one with the was it Charles has Dotte.
59:44
Speaker 1: I'm not sure it's the um it's the one where
59:48
Speaker 1: she's in like like space jail, just a shaver head,
59:53
Speaker 1: bald bald women rule. The bald women rule. Yeah, that's
59:59
Speaker 1: the rule. I think at that point she's a clone
1:00:01
Speaker 1: because they start cloning Ripley, I believe, keep starting in
1:00:05
Speaker 1: the third movie, because she's been the first suited to
1:00:07
Speaker 1: funk up all these aliens exactly. Sigourney Weaver Kanna's Women
1:00:10
Speaker 1: in Stem for this one I think so. Yes, yeah,
1:00:14
Speaker 1: I think she's a science officer. Yeah, hell yeah, she's
1:00:17
Speaker 1: a stem head. I thought of another bald woman woman movie,
1:00:20
Speaker 1: which is I love I love it. This theory actually works.
1:00:24
Speaker 1: I don't know if it works. Are in charge? It's
1:00:27
Speaker 1: just large, it's what who is? What about Empire records?
1:00:33
Speaker 1: Does that ruin it? Oh? You know what? I have
1:00:35
Speaker 1: not seen that movie in so long that I don't
1:00:37
Speaker 1: remember what they look like. I recently tweeted about loving
1:00:41
Speaker 1: dramatic haircuts and movies, and so all these people were
1:00:44
Speaker 1: like sending me head shaving scenes and I was like, well,
1:00:47
Speaker 1: I didn't mean that. I meant grab your hair scissors, slink.
1:00:51
Speaker 1: That's like, yeah, I like that. Mulan gets her haircut
1:00:54
Speaker 1: with a fucking sword. Yeah. But the movie I was
1:00:57
Speaker 1: thinking of it was a V for Vendetta y. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
1:01:01
Speaker 1: gets a head shaven. But is she in charge? She's
1:01:04
Speaker 1: kind of in charge of her own life, so she's
1:01:06
Speaker 1: maybe argue that she's an authority figure. I mean, she's
1:01:08
Speaker 1: not the authority figure. And she's didn't work for Brittany. No,
1:01:13
Speaker 1: I leave Brittany alone. There's okay. I still think it's
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Speaker 1: a triumph that she survived that year. I oh god,
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Speaker 1: I think she's great. I'm going to Vegas for the
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Speaker 1: first time next month and I and I'm like, I
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Speaker 1: really want to go see Brittany. I really do know.
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Speaker 1: I understand it. I did you did? Did you enjoy it? Oh? No,
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Speaker 1: it's not a great She's also tired. Yeah, And that's
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Speaker 1: when you feel like like you're like, oh, you didn't
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Speaker 1: have to do this for me, Brittany, I'm sorry, I'm
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Speaker 1: sorry I had to make you. And also when they
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Speaker 1: line up her songs like that, like one after another,
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Speaker 1: you realize that it's like it spells out like um
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Speaker 1: like cut out newspaper letter style, like a huge cry
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Speaker 1: for help. It's just like the songs are basically all
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Speaker 1: like I'm a sexy baby, and no when this since
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Speaker 1: to me or knows what I want or feel like,
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Speaker 1: how long has it been since Brittany has actually felt
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Speaker 1: that way like a sexy baby? Like I said, oh, well,
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Speaker 1: I feel like she still does feel like a sexy Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I feel like she's like the message of all of
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Speaker 1: her songs are basically like you just you just want
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Speaker 1: to suck me. That's it. I might still go see it. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and I don't want to tell you not to take
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Speaker 1: pictures with her costumes. But also you do know that
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Speaker 1: Mine Freak is there too. Oh ship, I'm only there
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Speaker 1: for three days, I would say, what's I am? Mine Freak?
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Speaker 1: I was recently considering going there just to like line
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Speaker 1: up a bunch of magic shows and just go see
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Speaker 1: a bunch of magic shows. Dude, I am that kind
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Speaker 1: of dark. Would love to see Mine Freak. I used
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Speaker 1: to love that show. I used to I don't know why,
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Speaker 1: but Mine Freak was my free was miship and I
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Speaker 1: used to love the Jamie Kennedy experiment. So I were
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Speaker 1: finding out about your whale house. It's garbage. Never wheelhouse
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Speaker 1: fucking sucks. I like how this episode has become like
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Speaker 1: the last half hour of Lord of the Rings Return
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Speaker 1: of the King, where every time you think it's over,
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Speaker 1: sorry we keep going. No, I've had so much fun.
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Speaker 1: Keep you again, Eliza for being here. It's wonderful time
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Speaker 1: ghost seeing the new alien movie. Uh it might be good,
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Speaker 1: all right bye