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- 0:04Speaker 1: Good nay mates, and welcome if you're just joining us.
- 0:07Speaker 1: It's the third hour of the Morning Show with Preston
- 0:09Speaker 1: Scott and we do have a podcast of the program.
- 0:13Speaker 1: We've had it for a very long time, so if
- 0:16Speaker 1: you missed the first two hours, just look up the
- 0:19Speaker 1: podcast on the iHeartRadio app and there you go. You'll
- 0:21Speaker 1: get caught up. But you've tuned in at the right
- 0:24Speaker 1: time because I am joined by a friend of the program.
- 0:28Speaker 1: We have known Greg Wrightstone for a number of years.
- 0:30Speaker 1: He's chairman of the CO two Coalition. He's author of
- 0:33Speaker 1: a couple of books, Inconvenient Facts, The Science that Al
- 0:36Speaker 1: Gore Doesn't want you to Know and a very Convenient Warming,
- 0:40Speaker 1: How Modest Warming and CO two are Benefiting humanity. He
- 0:44Speaker 1: is Greg Wridstone.
- 0:45Speaker 2: Hi, Greg, good Marning, how are you?
- 0:49Speaker 1: I am terrific For the benefit of those that have
- 0:52Speaker 1: missed our previous visits, do a quick reset here. You're
- 0:57Speaker 1: you're a geologist by profession. What was it that you
- 1:02Speaker 1: finally had your popeye moment and you've stood all you
- 1:05Speaker 1: could stand and you couldn't stand anymore, and you decided
- 1:07Speaker 1: you were going to take this challenge on?
- 1:10Speaker 2: Yeah, well, as a scientist. I knew that some of
- 1:12Speaker 2: what this goes back to. About twenty fifteen is when
- 1:16Speaker 2: I really started getting very interested to learn the truth.
- 1:21Speaker 2: And I heard the things as a geologist that we
- 1:24Speaker 2: were being told that I knew were just false. In
- 1:27Speaker 2: particularly that's that oceans are becoming acidic. You've probably heard
- 1:32Speaker 2: of ocean acidification. That just a terrible thing, And I
- 1:35Speaker 2: knew that that was actually incorrect. It cannot happen. We
- 1:39Speaker 2: won't go into the science of why it can't happen.
- 1:42Speaker 2: We could do that on a different show. But I
- 1:44Speaker 2: knew that, And so I said, they're lying to me
- 1:47Speaker 2: about this. What else are they lying to me about?
- 1:51Speaker 2: And so I did it? I didn't. I'm going to
- 1:53Speaker 2: do my own research. I'm going to do a deep
- 1:55Speaker 2: dive into various claims that are being made of in
- 2:00Speaker 2: using wildfires, sea level rise. You've heard them all.
- 2:07Speaker 1: Can I ask you, did you start this process of
- 2:10Speaker 1: researching through the lens of as a professional, trained, academic geologist,
- 2:18Speaker 1: or were the claims so much that you pushed yourself
- 2:21Speaker 1: outside of your normal silo into other areas well.
- 2:26Speaker 2: If we look at climate change, there are probably thirty
- 2:29Speaker 2: or forty different disciplines that are involved climatology, geology, chemistry, meteorology,
- 2:36Speaker 2: all of those things combined are part of this. And
- 2:40Speaker 2: so I took this just as a scientist. It was
- 2:44Speaker 2: with my geologic and scientific background, and I started going
- 2:48Speaker 2: into these and frankly, what I found anchored me is
- 2:51Speaker 2: that most of what we're being told about the climate
- 2:54Speaker 2: crisis is just false and that this is my own
- 2:58Speaker 2: personal search for the truth. It led me to this
- 3:01Speaker 2: because I went back to the base date. I said,
- 3:03Speaker 2: I'm not going to trust anyone. I'm going to look
- 3:05Speaker 2: at my own through my own research. And that led
- 3:08Speaker 2: me to write my first book, which was Inconvenient Facts,
- 3:11Speaker 2: which was a runaway bestseller, and it was it was
- 3:15Speaker 2: that that and then my most In that book, I
- 3:18Speaker 2: pretty much I documented that there is no climate crisis
- 3:22Speaker 2: and in fact, Earth is getting better. My second book
- 3:25Speaker 2: that was just published is the name is a very
- 3:28Speaker 2: Convenient Warming, Now modest warming and more co two are
- 3:32Speaker 2: benefiting humanity, and it's the story about the facts of
- 3:36Speaker 2: what's actually happening. We see by almost every metric we
- 3:40Speaker 2: look at, Earth's ecosystems are thriving and prospering, and humanity
- 3:44Speaker 2: is benefiting from increasing CO two and modest warming, and
- 3:49Speaker 2: it's I call it the greatest untold story of the
- 3:52Speaker 2: twenty first century, that of a thrift and the thriving,
- 3:56Speaker 2: improving of the human condition. And we should celebrate that.
- 4:00Speaker 2: It's just it's it's man life is good in getting better,
- 4:04Speaker 2: and it's it's because of more CO two modest warming.
- 4:08Speaker 2: Means that it's the greatest advantage we're seeing from the
- 4:12Speaker 2: two of those. Or agriculture that's breaking records year after
- 4:16Speaker 2: year after year from the coldest countries to the hottest
- 4:20Speaker 2: countries like India, their agricultural spector and productivity or outpacing
- 4:26Speaker 2: population growth. Isn't that a good thing that does a really,
- 4:30Speaker 2: really really good thing. We should celebrate that.
- 4:33Speaker 1: Is it an oversimplification to say the Earth is simply
- 4:38Speaker 1: being the Earth?
- 4:41Speaker 2: No, that's that's probably the truth because if we look
- 4:44Speaker 2: at the facts, let's let's get to the heart of this.
- 4:47Speaker 2: Is it all goes around carbon dioxide, carbon dioxide or
- 4:52Speaker 2: CO two, And this is the other people pushing this
- 4:55Speaker 2: climate alarm called the demon molecule, we call it the
- 4:59Speaker 2: mirror cale molecule. And so everything they're doing for net zero,
- 5:04Speaker 2: their regulations that were systematically stripping your listeners from their freedoms,
- 5:11Speaker 2: their freedoms to die. Now, bear with me when I
- 5:13Speaker 2: said I'm a big, very big proponent of I'm strongly
- 5:17Speaker 2: pro choice. And by saying that, I mean your listeners
- 5:21Speaker 2: should have the choice of what kind of car to drive,
- 5:24Speaker 2: how to heat their home to, what temperature to heat
- 5:28Speaker 2: or cool their home. If you look around, look around
- 5:30Speaker 2: you right now you're in the comfort of your home
- 5:32Speaker 2: or your office. Everything you look at, it's based on
- 5:37Speaker 2: the electricity has been regulated under the bidener orma EPA
- 5:41Speaker 2: or Department of Energy. For just your your ceiling fan,
- 5:47Speaker 2: no more incandescent white bulbs. They're they're limiting what kind
- 5:51Speaker 2: of washer and dryer you can buy, what dishwasher you
- 5:55Speaker 2: can buy, and so they're telling you, for the most part,
- 5:59Speaker 2: they're much more defensive, they don't use as much energy, probably,
- 6:04Speaker 2: but they're telling you you should not have the choice
- 6:07Speaker 2: to buy a dishwasher that can clean your dishes in
- 6:10Speaker 2: forty minutes and get them clean instead of a dishwasher
- 6:14Speaker 2: that takes an hour and a half like ours does,
- 6:16Speaker 2: and they're not so clean. Or flush your toilet two
- 6:18Speaker 2: times instead of once and so that's what they're using,
- 6:21Speaker 2: is all is revolving around carbon dioxide and limitations, and
- 6:25Speaker 2: so carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas. It does have
- 6:29Speaker 2: a warming effect like other greenhouse gases, over which the
- 6:33Speaker 2: main one is water vapor, but it's very, very very
- 6:36Speaker 2: small and overwhelmed by again water vapor and natural forces
- 6:41Speaker 2: that have been heating and cooling and driving temperatures since
- 6:45Speaker 2: the dawn of time. And it's just thank god now
- 6:50Speaker 2: we're seeing in the Trump administration they're rolling these restrictions back.
- 6:54Speaker 2: They're taking away these limits of your freedom, allowing us
- 6:59Speaker 2: the ability to choose what to buy.
- 7:02Speaker 1: Greg, you and I have talked about this a couple
- 7:04Speaker 1: times over the years, but I am still convinced that
- 7:08Speaker 1: the rank and file American does not understand the distinction
- 7:14Speaker 1: between carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide. They know that one
- 7:21Speaker 1: is used to off yourself. You know, you want to
- 7:23Speaker 1: kill yourself. You take the gas pipe and you put
- 7:26Speaker 1: the exhaust pipe rather in your car and you turn
- 7:29Speaker 1: it on, and you'd kill yourself. And I don't think
- 7:32Speaker 1: there's enough understanding of the benefits. You call it the
- 7:36Speaker 1: miracle molecule. I don't think enough people understand This is
- 7:40Speaker 1: carbon dioxide, not monoxide.
- 7:44Speaker 2: Yeah, carbon dioxide is not a pollutant. It doesn't there's
- 7:47Speaker 2: no direct harm with increasing carbon dioxide. Carbon monoxide is
- 7:54Speaker 2: a poison. It's a balluton that can kill you. So
- 7:56Speaker 2: carbon dioxide that's what we're breathing out. It was every
- 8:00Speaker 2: you breathe out, you're exhaling about forty thousand parts per
- 8:04Speaker 2: million the ambient airror and that if you walk outside
- 8:08Speaker 2: right now and if there's a bit of a wind,
- 8:11Speaker 2: you're going to see about four hundred and thirty parts
- 8:14Speaker 2: per million and you're exhaling forty thousand. There's no direct
- 8:19Speaker 2: harm even if above five thousand parts per million. So
- 8:23Speaker 2: we could carbon diox that could get fifteen to twenty
- 8:27Speaker 2: times as high as of this right now, and there's
- 8:29Speaker 2: still will be no direct harm. In fact, submarines, I
- 8:33Speaker 2: believe there they limit. There is usually over six thousand
- 8:38Speaker 2: parts per million for the sailors or the submariners that
- 8:41Speaker 2: are there, because of course you've got forty or fifty
- 8:44Speaker 2: men in a submarine and they're all exhaling forty thousand
- 8:47Speaker 2: parts per million, and so the air in the submarine
- 8:52Speaker 2: they need to keep cleansing the co two in the
- 8:55Speaker 2: sub but again during over Earth's history, the average of
- 9:00Speaker 2: CO two in the atmosphere is twenty six hundred parts
- 9:03Speaker 2: per million, six and a half times what it is today.
- 9:06Speaker 2: Life thrive, Plants love more CO two, they do, and
- 9:11Speaker 2: they do. All life thrived at much much higher CO
- 9:14Speaker 2: two levels, And so we're actually in a period of
- 9:18Speaker 2: CO two starvation. We don't have too much CO two,
- 9:22Speaker 2: we don't have enough, and that's really what is not understood.
- 9:26Speaker 2: The other big point that they failed to mention is
- 9:30Speaker 2: that in my new book, A Very Convenient Warming, I
- 9:34Speaker 2: have an entire section devoted to this. One of my
- 9:37Speaker 2: favorite subjects is the strong correlation between a relationship between
- 9:42Speaker 2: human history and climate temperature history. And we find that
- 9:47Speaker 2: each of the previous warming periods, and we are in
- 9:50Speaker 2: a warming period, by the way, thankfully each of the
- 9:53Speaker 2: previous warming periods, which is hugely beneficial to humanity. Great
- 9:58Speaker 2: empires arose and civilizations arose. But dating back to the
- 10:03Speaker 2: very first in the Bronze Age, the Manilan Warm period, Babylonians, Hittites, Assyrians,
- 10:10Speaker 2: the Horopic Empire in the Indus River Valley. All these
- 10:13Speaker 2: first civilizations rose up during a really, really warm time.
- 10:17Speaker 2: In fact, it was so warm they were growing a
- 10:20Speaker 2: crop called millet in Scandinavia would be grown in subtropical areas,
- 10:26Speaker 2: so we know it was a lot warmer and life
- 10:29Speaker 2: was good. And then it started getting cold and mad.
- 10:32Speaker 2: It was horrific every time throughout Earth's history, and it
- 10:36Speaker 2: started getting cold. It led to crop failure, famine, pestilence,
- 10:40Speaker 2: and masty population.
- 10:41Speaker 1: Greg let's catch everybody up. What is the CO two Coalition?
- 10:45Speaker 2: Yeah, the CO two Coalition. We're now nearly two hundred
- 10:48Speaker 2: of the top experts and scientists in the world that
- 10:52Speaker 2: are skeptic. We pushed back and tell the truth about
- 10:56Speaker 2: what's actually happening by climate change. With on our board.
- 11:00Speaker 2: We've got doctor Patrick Moore, who was a co founder
- 11:03Speaker 2: of greenpa Peace believe it or not. We have doctor
- 11:07Speaker 2: John klaus or Sits on our board. He was the
- 11:09Speaker 2: twenty twenty two Nobel Laureate in physics. So it's hard
- 11:13Speaker 2: to call us science deniers. I would call these other
- 11:18Speaker 2: people pushing this climate scam. We just talked about human history.
- 11:22Speaker 2: I call them history deniers because they deny what human
- 11:25Speaker 2: history tells us. And so it's our mission to promote
- 11:29Speaker 2: the truth about the benefits mostly of carbon dioxide, but
- 11:34Speaker 2: also of modest warming. And so we're pushing back against this.
- 11:38Speaker 2: We're fighting for your freedoms, for your listeners' freedoms, and
- 11:42Speaker 2: we've been active. Our office is based in the DC
- 11:47Speaker 2: area Fairfax, Virginia, and we are actively promoting our politicians
- 11:55Speaker 2: to enact sound scientists, science based policy, which they haven't before.
- 12:02Speaker 2: UH again, and we're providing that information directly into the
- 12:07Speaker 2: hands of people like Lee Zelden at at e p
- 12:11Speaker 2: A Environmental Protection Agency, Chris Wright and Energy Doug Bergham
- 12:15Speaker 2: an Interior, Sean daff Duffy at Transportation UH. And there
- 12:20Speaker 2: they've been bold. They've been just refreshingly aggressive and pushing
- 12:26Speaker 2: back against the climate hoax laws and UH, it's it's great.
- 12:30Speaker 2: For example, at e p A, two days before Lee
- 12:34Speaker 2: Zelden was sworn in as EPA administrator, they fired every
- 12:37Speaker 2: single one of the members of their scientific Advisory Board.
- 12:41Speaker 2: And we were contacted not long after asking us because
- 12:45Speaker 2: we're we are the I'm not going to say again
- 12:48Speaker 2: we basically, of course, we're the pre eminent scientific organization
- 12:52Speaker 2: in the world fighting back against this. UH. And we
- 12:56Speaker 2: got a little Birdie whispered in my ear that we
- 12:59Speaker 2: should make a list of experts that we could populate
- 13:02Speaker 2: these panels with, and so we've provided a list last
- 13:06Speaker 2: month of almost fifty highly qualified experts to sit on
- 13:11Speaker 2: these EPA Scientific Advisory boards. We've written a number of
- 13:17Speaker 2: reports by doctor Richard Lindzen of MIT, Steve Coonan who
- 13:23Speaker 2: was physics PhD. He was Obama's science advisor, Doctor William Happers,
- 13:31Speaker 2: our chairman. We published these provided this information to Congress,
- 13:36Speaker 2: to EPA, Energy Interior and the others to give them
- 13:40Speaker 2: the information they need to make decisions. And they've been
- 13:44Speaker 2: again just almost it's not maybe on a daily basis,
- 13:48Speaker 2: but almost every week there are new just tremendous either
- 13:53Speaker 2: executive orders or things proposed by these agencies, these regulatory
- 13:58Speaker 2: agencies to again roll back these restrictions on your listener's freedoms.
- 14:03Speaker 2: And we're proud to do it. It's it might be
- 14:06Speaker 2: the most important thing I've ever done in my life.
- 14:09Speaker 2: And we're not stopping. We're moving forward. And in fact,
- 14:13Speaker 2: we've got a series of two sixty second ads right now,
- 14:18Speaker 2: we're doing polling right now, We're going to be running
- 14:21Speaker 2: national television, so hopefully you put on put it on
- 14:24Speaker 2: when you tile up Fox. I don't think anybody of
- 14:27Speaker 2: your listeners is going to be watching MSNBC unless they're forced.
- 14:30Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's where they need to be. The ads
- 14:32Speaker 1: need to be there.
- 14:33Speaker 2: Yep, exactly. And so we're doing polling right now. Hopefully
- 14:38Speaker 2: within thirty days we'll be able to roll this out.
- 14:41Speaker 2: I'm going to be starting. It's not cheap, it's not
- 14:43Speaker 2: inexpensive to do these We're talking about millions of dollars.
- 14:47Speaker 2: But I think people would be motivated to get that
- 14:51Speaker 2: truth out. Surely there's a billionaierror or billionaierrors out there
- 14:57Speaker 2: that would love to say, look what I you know,
- 15:00Speaker 2: here's here's X dollars. I want this. I want this
- 15:04Speaker 2: information out in the public. I wanted on MSNBC. I
- 15:07Speaker 2: want it on CNN. UH. And we're well also the
- 15:10Speaker 2: other uh, non standard, tell, Hulu whatever. We're going to
- 15:15Speaker 2: get it out there. And I believe when I talk
- 15:18Speaker 2: to people, I find that people are just thirsty for
- 15:22Speaker 2: this information that we provide as thirsty because they've never
- 15:24Speaker 2: heard it, and we need to. Once we get this
- 15:27Speaker 2: information out there, it's game over for the climate crisis.
- 15:31Speaker 2: Climate industrial complex is what I call it.
- 15:34Speaker 1: Greg, I gotta go. We're up against the news break.
- 15:37Speaker 1: I appreciate the time this morning and friends, the executive
- 15:40Speaker 1: director CO two Coalition CO two Coalition dot org. You
- 15:44Speaker 1: can donate and support the cause right there, Greg Ridestone,
- 15:47Speaker 1: my guest here on the Morning Show with Preston Scott