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Mac & Bone Hour 2: Panthers Blame Game · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't handle the movement well up front and, um,
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: it was, it was, you know, we're looking at it
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: schematically and structurally the runs looked fine. We missed some
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: blocks up front. We knew the challenge of this group
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: is that they're quick. Um, they move at the point,
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: they do different things and we didn't handle that well early. Finally,
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: we were able to kind of settle in towards the
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: end of the game. And really the feature of that
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: touchdown drive was the run game, the play actions, the
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: offense that we know, um, The Browns did a great
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: job covering us, making it challenging. Some of their rush patterns,
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: you know, creating a little bit of pressure for Bryce.
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: So he had to get the ball out a little
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: bit earlier than he needed to. So some things to
• 0:58
  Speaker 1: work on, some things to look at. But I got
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: to give a lot of credit to those guys for
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: executing a good plan.
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: There you go. Coach Canales afterwards, 21-18. Ugly, ugly loss
• 1:07
  Speaker 2: to the Browns, but they still had two leads in
• 1:10
  Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. I would have taken an ugly, gritty
• 1:13
  Speaker 2: game with a bunch of dudes hurt, but it wasn't
• 1:16
  Speaker 2: to be. Defense gives up points on each drive. I'm
• 1:19
  Speaker 2: sure we're going to talk about the roughing call today, Bone.
• 1:22
  Speaker 2: I'm sure we're going to talk about the injuries, but
• 1:24
  Speaker 2: I don't like I don't want to lead off this
• 1:27
  Speaker 2: segment with those sort of excuse things like we could
• 1:30
  Speaker 2: talk about those as the show goes on. But to me,
• 1:34
  Speaker 2: the number one thing is many of you are saying
• 1:36
  Speaker 2: that are just tuning in. Many of you are opening
• 1:40
  Speaker 2: your dialogue with us the way we opened the show dialogue.
• 1:43
  Speaker 2: The offensive line, you heard Canales talk about the run game.
• 1:46
  Speaker 2: This Cleveland team bone was like 25th in overall run defense,
• 1:51
  Speaker 2: 31st in yards per carry allowed. And we were on
• 1:55
  Speaker 2: the ball 10 times for 18 yards in the first half.
• 1:58
  Speaker 2: Chuba has nowhere to go. It was horrible. Then you
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: throw in the pass protection issues that we had, where
• 2:05
  Speaker 2: Sumer Sports says Bryce was pressured 63% of the time.
• 2:10
  Speaker 2: There's no way around it. That was the absolute biggest
• 2:14
  Speaker 2: issue on the football field. And there's plenty of other
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: things to be annoyed with. But it has to, as
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  Speaker 2: many of y'all are saying, it has to start there.
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  Speaker 3: I think this team, and I'll repeat what I said,
• 2:24
  Speaker 3: it'd be 6 o'clock hour because... uh new audiences all
• 2:27
  Speaker 3: the time i think this team misses icky in the
• 2:29
  Speaker 3: run game i thought that in the preseason that's icky
• 2:32
  Speaker 3: strong point mac is uh run blocking it's not a
• 2:36
  Speaker 3: coincidence that well there's two full problem here they're not
• 2:39
  Speaker 3: running the ball well when they do run the ball
• 2:42
  Speaker 3: they're also not always consistent in running the football but
• 2:45
  Speaker 3: when they do run it it's not the same i
• 2:47
  Speaker 3: really think I really think Icky has missed big.
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  Speaker 2: Time in the run game. 100%. And I got to
• 2:52
  Speaker 2: be honest, he might be missed in the passing game. Like,
• 2:55
  Speaker 2: you look at Walker. Rasheed Walker's strong point is supposed
• 2:58
  Speaker 2: to be his pass protection. We all thought, okay, it's
• 3:01
  Speaker 2: a downgrade in run blocking from Icky, but it's an
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: upgrade in pass protection. Rasheed Walker, according to PFF, has
• 3:07
  Speaker 2: given up six pressures in each of the last two games.
• 3:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, Jared verse ate his lunch yesterday and then
• 3:13
  Speaker 2: you go to the other side, man. I don't want
• 3:15
  Speaker 2: to scream about Monroe Freeling. He's a rookie and the
• 3:19
  Speaker 2: plan was to allow him to sit and learn and watch.
• 3:23
  Speaker 2: So he has been thrown into this because of the
• 3:25
  Speaker 2: Moten injury, but I don't think there's any denying the
• 3:28
  Speaker 2: steady force that Moten is in the past protection game,
• 3:31
  Speaker 2: how much he has missed On that side. So, yes,
• 3:34
  Speaker 2: it's a day where I would love some sort of
• 3:36
  Speaker 2: freaking update on those two guys. Not sure. Not sure
• 3:40
  Speaker 2: we're going to get anything for Dave today, but I
• 3:42
  Speaker 2: would love to hear some sort of update and hope
• 3:45
  Speaker 2: that these guys are going to be back, man. No
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  Speaker 2: doubt about it. And I got to be honest, that
• 3:49
  Speaker 2: window opens after four weeks. Right. For them to try
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  Speaker 2: to get back. Yes, yes.
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  Speaker 3: So we're approaching that soon. Maybe they'll not do an
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  Speaker 3: update until the bye. I don't know, but we're due
• 4:00
  Speaker 3: for an update soon on that. Also, Fortner, Matt, got hand-mandled.
• 4:05
  Speaker 2: Hand-mandled? Hand-mandled.
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  Speaker 3: Fortner got– sounds like an offensive line term. Fortner also
• 4:11
  Speaker 3: got manhandled in the middle yesterday as well. That's another problem.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't just the guys on the edge and the guards.
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  Speaker 3: Fortner was bad yesterday too. Yeah, he had some rough moments.
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  Speaker 3: PFF has him with one sack allowed. to Mason Graham,
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  Speaker 3: and three pressures. But the three guys at PFF gave
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  Speaker 3: six pressures to, Walker, Freeling, and Hunt. I'm telling you,
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  Speaker 3: Rob Hunt don't look great either. He's committed a ton
• 4:35
  Speaker 3: of penalties. He also, Bone, had trouble picking up a
• 4:39
  Speaker 3: stunt from Mason Graham for a sack. I don't think
• 4:42
  Speaker 3: it's been a great start for Rob Hunt. The best, most,
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  Speaker 3: the only consistent force we have on the offensive line
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  Speaker 3: is Damian Lewis.
• 4:49
  Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, he's hurt now, too. He
• 4:51
  Speaker 2: had to come back in the game after leaving with
• 4:54
  Speaker 2: an elbow injury, but got hurt again. And played through
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  Speaker 2: it at the end.
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  Speaker 3: It looks like injuries are taking a toll on Robert
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  Speaker 3: Hunt from where he was two years ago to where
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  Speaker 3: he is now. A guy that size, Mac, has had
• 5:06
  Speaker 3: back problems at camp.
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  Speaker 2: You're right.
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  Speaker 3: He just doesn't look the same physically as the guy.
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  Speaker 2: That signed the big deal a couple years ago right now. No,
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  Speaker 2: definitely not. Guys, he looks old. He does. He looks old.
• 5:18
  Speaker 2: He looks a step slow. But Mac and Bone, this
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  Speaker 2: might be dangerous.
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  Speaker 4: Mac, two weeks ago, you said, quote, I want to
• 5:27
  Speaker 4: slap you in your fat face.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to give you the floor to do so.
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  Speaker 4: I should have never once complained and advocated for Taylor
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  Speaker 4: Moten to get cut.
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  Speaker 2: This offensive line without Taylor Moten.
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  Speaker 4: And look, Monroe Freeling is going to be fine.
• 5:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he will be.
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  Speaker 4: This is not an indictment of what I think Monroe
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  Speaker 4: Freeling can and will be at the NFL level.
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  Speaker 2: But my God, Mac. Bones getting it. My God. Come here, Bone.
• 5:53
  Speaker 2: Smack it. Smack that fat. I only got one jowl.
• 6:00
  Speaker 2: You definitely hit him harder in the face than we
• 6:02
  Speaker 2: hit Watson on that roughing ball. He's got some strong cheeks.
• 6:05
  Speaker 2: I do a lot of jawing.
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  Speaker 4: But Mac, it's... It's appalling how much we thought that...
• 6:13
  Speaker 4: I had this conversation with Colin yesterday. We had like
• 6:15
  Speaker 4: a 20-minute event session after the game. Look at how
• 6:17
  Speaker 4: much Dan Morgan has invested in that offensive line. We
• 6:21
  Speaker 4: should be at a point, and I know there are
• 6:23
  Speaker 4: two starters, where we could absorb their absences. We need
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  Speaker 4: these guys back stacked. Because until they're back, this team
• 6:31
  Speaker 4: ain't running the ball, man.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm more mad about. The way
• 6:34
  Speaker 2: they pass protected at such a hideous clip. Or the
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  Speaker 2: run blocking. Those are the two biggest worries right there.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, we ran it for 80 yards
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  Speaker 2: in the second half. They finally got it going in
• 6:47
  Speaker 2: the second half. I don't know if I'm encouraged by it.
• 6:50
  Speaker 2: That might be a strong word. Maybe get A.J. Dillon
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  Speaker 2: involved in the game or not. They gotta run it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's too. I, well, I know I got
• 6:57
  Speaker 2: a text yesterday from my guy, uh, Andy, who's big listener.
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  Speaker 2: And he says, dude, we need half a yard and
• 7:02
  Speaker 2: you don't bring quadzilla in, you know? And, and, and
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  Speaker 2: I'll say this, is it called a good play bone?
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  Speaker 2: Tremble was open, but it doesn't matter if you can't protect.
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  Speaker 2: And apparently Jalen Coker was given the assignment. It looked
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  Speaker 2: like to protect that DB. If he blitzed and the
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  Speaker 2: DB gets in there and makes a play and Bryce
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  Speaker 2: can't get the ball out there to him. um just
• 7:22
  Speaker 2: like clockwork bone we get our first couple of bryce
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  Speaker 2: complainers now most of y'all are saying most y'all are
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  Speaker 2: saying it's it's all it's almost 100 percent o-line some
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  Speaker 2: of you are already saying i don't even want to
• 7:34
  Speaker 2: hear anybody rip bryce but you knew it was coming
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  Speaker 2: this dude said bryce clearly played his worst game of
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  Speaker 2: the season and we only score 18 points He's got
• 7:44
  Speaker 2: to take some heat. Another texter, Bryce Young, was under
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  Speaker 2: pressure a lot. But how about you actually talk about
• 7:52
  Speaker 2: some of the throws that he missed and decisions that
• 7:55
  Speaker 2: he made? He was also playing banged up yesterday as well.
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  Speaker 2: He was playing through injury. I wanted this win so
• 8:01
  Speaker 2: bad for so many reasons. But I wanted it for Bryce.
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  Speaker 2: He gave us the lead twice, Bones. in this game
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  Speaker 2: in the second half. The touchdown drive, considering what the
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  Speaker 2: pressure was, where they started moving him and he was
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  Speaker 2: just dealing, was beautiful. And I just hate that the
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  Speaker 2: defense could not protect the lead bone. I don't want
• 8:22
  Speaker 2: to go off on the defense because they were good
• 8:24
  Speaker 2: most of the day. But I just wanted this for
• 8:27
  Speaker 2: Bryce because I didn't want this shenanigans. Because I wanted
• 8:30
  Speaker 2: to be able to say that Bryce Young had Coker out,
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  Speaker 2: XL out, had two starting tackles out, O-line playing terrible,
• 8:39
  Speaker 2: no running game for much of the game. And look
• 8:42
  Speaker 2: at what he did. He fought through it all. He
• 8:45
  Speaker 2: still dropped a bunch of dimes. Like, there were definitely
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  Speaker 2: plays that he missed. I hate to admit, I think
• 8:51
  Speaker 2: Schlereth might have been right-bone on that Tommy Tremble thing.
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  Speaker 2: I watched the game back last night. I was angry
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  Speaker 2: live when watching it that Schlereth was going in on
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: Bryce because he acts like such a jerk about it
• 9:01
  Speaker 2: when he goes in on Bryce.
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  Speaker 5: He does.
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  Speaker 2: But I do feel like Bryce was a little gun-shy,
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  Speaker 2: and I think he was probably bothered. I think the
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  Speaker 2: pressure had him bothered, right? Even when it wasn't there,
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  Speaker 2: even on those quick throws, it felt like he was hesitating.
• 9:15
  Speaker 3: Hey, Bryce haters, I have a stat for you I
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  Speaker 3: saw on Friday. We're going to add one more of
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  Speaker 3: each there. One touchdown pass, one INT yesterday. Since the
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  Speaker 3: benching a few years ago, Bryce has had 45 touchdown
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  Speaker 3: passes and 19 INTs.
• 9:30
  Speaker 2: Since the benching.
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  Speaker 3: Yet we're still doing referendums every time they lose on
• 9:35
  Speaker 3: Bryce Young. If you would have told us back then
• 9:37
  Speaker 3: that Bryce would come back the next two years and
• 9:40
  Speaker 3: go 45 touchdowns, 19 INTs, I think you'd sign up
• 9:43
  Speaker 3: for that.
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  Speaker 2: 100%. And the interception yesterday wasn't his fault. Of course
• 9:47
  Speaker 2: he got hit. What a fitting way to end that
• 9:49
  Speaker 2: game with Bryce getting his arm hit and the ball
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: flies in the air and is picked off. What a
• 9:54
  Speaker 2: fitting way to end the damn game. So I don't know, man.
• 9:59
  Speaker 2: I thought Bryce showed a lot considering the circumstances. I
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: would even ask this question, Fitty, because I know you,
• 10:04
  Speaker 2: you were challenging a while back and we just started,
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: I just started ranting to defend Bryce, but I'll throw
• 10:12
  Speaker 2: this one to you. I feel like Bryce in the
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: past has I don't think he would have handled this
• 10:17
  Speaker 2: as well. And I'm not sure we would have ever
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: gotten the lead with Bryce maybe in the past.
• 10:23
  Speaker 4: I want to make the case, Mac. I know he lost.
• 10:27
  Speaker 4: You can make the argument. You can convince me that's
• 10:29
  Speaker 4: the best game he's played so far this season. Mac,
• 10:32
  Speaker 4: he had no run game until deep into the second half.
• 10:35
  Speaker 4: He had no pass protection in 60 minutes. He gets
• 10:38
  Speaker 4: his ankle rolled up on. And all he did in
• 10:42
  Speaker 4: the second half was engineer drives to give them the lead.
• 10:45
  Speaker 4: I mean he gave them the lead twice. in the
• 10:48
  Speaker 4: fourth quarter, on the road. Because you know what? That's
• 10:51
  Speaker 4: what that SOB does. When the going gets tough, Bryce
• 10:56
  Speaker 4: Young rises to the occasion and he gives his team
• 10:59
  Speaker 4: a freaking chance. That's all you can ask at the
• 11:02
  Speaker 4: end of the day in this league is do you
• 11:04
  Speaker 4: have a guy that on Sundays gives you a chance
• 11:08
  Speaker 4: to win more often than not? And I know his
• 11:10
  Speaker 4: winning percentage would say no because of what his record
• 11:12
  Speaker 4: was as a rookie. But since he's came back from
• 11:15
  Speaker 4: being benched, After the first two games two years ago,
• 11:18
  Speaker 4: you know what he's done every time he's walked out
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  Speaker 4: on the field more often than not? Given this franchise
• 11:23
  Speaker 4: a chance to win the game. I thought his toughness
• 11:26
  Speaker 4: was on display yesterday. 100%.
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: In a way that we have not seen. 100%. He's
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: a tough little nut, man. Don't get it twisted. He
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: is tough as hell.
• 11:34
  Speaker 4: We're not going to blame Bryce Young as to why
• 11:37
  Speaker 4: the Carolina Panthers got beat yesterday. He was the only
• 11:41
  Speaker 4: freaking reason outside of a defense that played its ass
• 11:44
  Speaker 4: off until the fourth quarter why they were in the game.
• 11:47
  Speaker 4: He had to carry them. Oh, by the way, no XL,
• 11:51
  Speaker 4: no Jalen Coker. T-Mac was on a milk carton. And
• 11:55
  Speaker 4: he starts dropping dimes to tremble. Bryson Tremaine gets John
• 11:59
  Speaker 4: Mechie involved.
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: I would definitely not say it's his best game. I
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: would say it's his worst game of the season. But
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: by no means did I think it was a bad
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: game when you consider the circumstances. And I'm with Fitty
• 12:11
  Speaker 2: on a lot of what he said. We have something
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: lost in translation here. Multiple people asking, when is Mac
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: going to eat the dude wipe and when is Bone
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: walking to Cleveland? First of all, I never said I
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: was walking to Cleveland. I was walking to Dude Wipe
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: headquarters in Chicago. Get it straight.
• 12:27
  Speaker 3: Mack wasn't eating the Dude Wipe just for a loss.
• 12:30
  Speaker 3: It was based off a story about a Browns promotion
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: they were doing, where if they won by 22 points
• 12:36
  Speaker 3: against the Panthers, they were giving money away, right?
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: Is that what they were doing? They were giving away
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: $ 50, 000 to a fan.
• 12:41
  Speaker 3: So we said if they win by 22, we will
• 12:44
  Speaker 3: do those things. Everybody thinks, Matt, that you and I
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: now have to do these things just because they lost. No,
• 12:50
  Speaker 3: it was a 22-point loss.
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: Those are the things we were going to do. Yes, okay.
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: Get it straight, y'all. Get it straight. The loss sucked,
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: but it could have been much damn worse. Multiple texters
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: are saying Bryce looks like he doesn't want to run.
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: Why is Bryce not running? First of all, he had
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: an ankle injury yesterday. We think it's an ankle. Canales
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: wouldn't say what it was. But it felt like it
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: was probably an ankle that got twisted bone on that
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: one sack, the one fourth down play. And by the way,
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: on that fourth down play, I thought he had Coker open.
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: And he did not throw it to him. So, like,
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: I am all willing to admit that there are moments, Bone,
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: where I thought Bryce had guys and didn't throw it there.
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: But I also, and with Fitty and general sentiment, I
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: thought he really was a fighter. And, damn, I wanted
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: that win for him. And the defense couldn't hold at
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: the end. But people are talking about the running. There
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: was one play I thought he could have ran, Bone.
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: He was flushing to the left, and there was room
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: to run there. And he could have got, I don't
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: know if the first down, but about seven yards, which
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: was gold in a game like that. And I don't
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: know if you remember this. But he didn't run. He
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: threw the ball way deep to Moore and threw it
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: out the back of the end zone on that play.
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember that play. Yeah, I
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: think so. But, like, I thought he could have run.
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: And even with an injury, got some yards there. People
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: are calling out Idzik's short yardage play calling. Again, the
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: play that they play faked, Tremble was wide open. It
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: wasn't the play design. It was the execution. Bryce rolled
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: right into a pass rusher. If you want to say
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: that the way the line was protecting, the way we
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: were protecting, maybe you shouldn't run it. I have a
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: bigger problem with Dave Canales going for it from our
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: own 40. And I am utterly shocked that no one
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: has said a word about it today. I just feel like, Bone,
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: that is completely irresponsible. On the road? You said it.
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: You give the team hope, man, on the road like that?
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: You can't be. It's all circumstantial.
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: In that moment, if you don't get it, you're on
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: the road that gives your opponent and the crowd life
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: that you didn't need to give them.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: Not to mention seven points. You gave them a 40-yard field.
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: That was seven points. And by the way, how'd they
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: get their other three points? They drove 18 yards after
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: we failed on a fourth down there. I was one
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: of Bryce got hurt on, but like, as far as
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: the going for it from your own 40, it's you
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: bring up the angle, giving them hope. I bring up
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: the angle, giving them seven points, but the type of
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: game it was to me, bone screamed punt and play
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: field position and play defense. Yes. Like, that's a game
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: where I'm very surprised Canales didn't get the vibe of,
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: we got to punt it, we got to try to
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: keep him back there, get it back with good field
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: position and go again. Because that's the kind of game
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: where points are at a premium, field position's at a premium.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: And that's why I'm surprised he did it. I get
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: that his M.O. is going for it and being aggressive.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: I think the tech, I think the people that are saying,
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: why can't A.J. Dillon get the football there is legitimate.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: You've got bebop complaining bone that we can't get half
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: a yard by sneaking Bryce Young. But I believe that
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: ship has sailed like it sucks. I personally would like
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: to again see them put Tommy Tremble, Mitchell Evans or
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: someone under there. And try to get a yard that way.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: They did Mitchell Palooza last year and they hadn't done
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: it again. Why would you not do that? There would
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: be my question, but generally going for it bone. I
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: just didn't think that was the sort of game to
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: do that from your own 40. It was, it.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: Was killer unnecessary panic. The offense has played well, the
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: first two games. Trust your team. Trust your defense. It's
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: not like, Mac, your offense. Yeah, yesterday wasn't great. I'm
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: not saying that. But it's not like your offense has
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: been struggling the first two games. That, to me, is
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: a play where you're trying to ignite a fire in
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: your offense. You're trying to get them going. They were
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: going coming into this game.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: You didn't need to panic there.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: Panicking is what you had to do to get better,
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: and while you're getting better, you don't need to have
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: panic moments like that.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: I think that's– and that is my word. I do believe, Bone,
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: it was panicky. And you know how I know that?
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Because me as a fan in the moment was like thinking–
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: Oh my God. Our offense has been unbelievable. We can't
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: do anything. This is so frustrating. I don't want to
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: get these. So like, I think that was playing into it.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: I think, I think he was frustrated as an offensive guy,
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: even if he's not the play caller, I think he
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: expects this offense to, you know, do more than that.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Whereas like if you had a team bone that was
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: just running defense all the time, type thing, like people
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: are saying the game required some John Fox football pun
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: is a good play type stuff. That's not a bad thing.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: I just think Canales was in a different mindset because
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden we're the high flying Panthers after
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: two weeks. And I think that might've gotten his head
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: and he was less willing to play. field position in
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: defense and it's frustrating man but there's a lot of
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: fun we didn't talk about the injuries well we have
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: but we're going to complain more about the injuries i'm
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: sure the roughing the passer credit to the fans y'all
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: have not brought that up a ton a few of
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: you had but we got to talk about that too
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: because that was killer would have had a pick man.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: Also shout out to bryce young mac who now has
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: the lead for passing yards in the nfl with 939
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: 22 ahead of Tyler Shuck. He's ahead of Matt Stafford,
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Jordan Love, and Pat Mahomes. But yeah, he's the problem.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Get some air. When we come back, Jim Zoki, Panther
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Radio Network, gives his thoughts from what he saw in
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Cleveland yesterday.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: Guys, we've got to come.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Back on the air now.
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: Oh, God.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: That's annoying, man. They should double pay us for these
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Panther Mondays after an L. Oh, my Lord. All right,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Mac and Bone with you, joined by Jim Zoki, Panther
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Radio Network. He probably doesn't want to be joining us
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: right now and talking. What's up, Zoki? What's up?
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: Why don't we do this next week or something? During
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: the bye week, maybe? I feel like a.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Fat loser when the Panthers don't win. Well, I feel
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: like a fat winner like last week. That was a
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: good time.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: There's a common thread.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: We eat all this food, Mac, and we think it's
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: worth it because the Panthers are going to win, and
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: then they don't. Now I just feel ashamed of myself.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: You're just bloated and pissed.
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: Empty calories.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Bloated and angry. So, hey, at least Emory Williams and
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: the ECU Pirates, baby, were rolling.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: Saturday was good.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Sorry, North Carolina Central. Sorry about that. Saturday was good.
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: Got to Cleveland and.
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: I will tell you, that was a rock fight. It
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: was like one of those games, like only one of
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: these teams is going to win. I feel like who's
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: going to lose the least? And again, there was some
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: credit to both defenses, honestly, for making the game as
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: ugly as it was. So I think it was like
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: credit first of all for that. But the two offenses,
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: they just spent four quarters trying to figure out, and
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: they both get a drive in the final five minutes
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: to get a touchdown, thinking they've done it. But it
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: was just like the defenses were the teams yesterday, and
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: both of them looked really good as far as overall play.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: What did you think about the Panthers' offense? I mean,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: it's hard not to talk about the offensive line because
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: of how long it took us to get any semblance
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: of a run game going. And then also the pass protection.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: yeah and those things go hand in hand too right
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: if you can't run it you're you're in passing situations
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: where they can tee off i mean the offensive line
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: just stuck out like a sore thumb.
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: It did and everything you said because there was pressure
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: on bryce the entire game and it was from the
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: edges it was from up the middle on mason graham
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: uh quincy williams looked like he was in on every
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: single play yesterday i mean but it's a with um
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: That is such a quick, active defensive front. And then
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: they put Denzel Ward on TMAC for most of the day,
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: and we never heard from him again. I mean, so
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: credit again to their defense, but we couldn't crack the code.
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: Especially it felt like Chuba Hubbard was going to get
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: 100 yards. It was going to come on 94 carries
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: because it was like one yard every single time he
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: was running there for.
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: Most of the first half.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: And that.
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: But again, you have to win those.
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: I mean, you give them credit, but you have to
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: find ways to win and get around it and figure
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: it out.
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: And we just had a hard time for most of
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: the day.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: I thought Max said something interesting last year. Not last year.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Last hour. He said more. It feels like a year ago, right?
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: That was my last interesting comment.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: 2025.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Eventually I'll get one for 2026.
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: I think it came during the playoffs. It was really good, though.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Last hour, I thought Max said something interesting. What's actually worse?
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: The loss?
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Or the amount of injuries that are piling up, especially
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: when you're playing a team like Detroit this week.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: And now Mike Jack's got his problem. J.C.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: 's hurt. To me, the injuries, I think Mac might
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: be right. The injury concerns might be even worse than
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: the loss was.
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: And so I'll hold off on that depending on how
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: long the time is.
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: It sounds like J.C.
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: Is the worst one of the quad injuries and so forth.
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: Coker, again, was saying not too bad for him.
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: Devin Lloyd sounded like he was really close to being
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: able to play in this past game. So as long
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: as we get through this week and then the bye week,
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: if we can get these guys back, I mean, there's
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: no doubt. I mean, everyone always says, you know, next
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: man up. Well, there's a reason why the first man's
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: paid a lot of money, because he's better than the
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: other ones. You've got two great corners that were out
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: in the defense. Again, Caleb Evans almost had the play
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: of the game thanks to Will Lee tipping a ball
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: to him. So, yeah, those two guys back there, that
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: could have been the sealer of those two, I'd say,
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: reserve players. coming in, non-starters, and coming in and making
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: a play like that would have sealed the game, if
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: not for the roughing calls. So I think they hung
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: in defensively, even with the depth out there for most
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: of the time.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: It would have been a great way to win it, too.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: The rookie, Will Lee, making the play. I thought Phillips
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: did a great job because he kind of, as he
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: did a few times in the game, kind of got
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: sucked in on the rush inside. But I thought he
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: did a great job getting out and kind of cutting
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Watson off. Okereke comes up. But it's just, it sucks.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: But I think that's the rule. in 2026 what did
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: you think about that roughing call and what did the
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: guys on the network think about it.
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: I think uh we had kurt coleman yesterday with us
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: and so we um i mean it was it was
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: one of those things like it's it's borderline but you
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: don't call penalties by degree of severity so it felt
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: like it was mostly a shoulder hit but there was
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: contact with the face mask and the the officials are
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: trained to call it the way that the rule is
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: written on paper and it's just like you have to
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: have rules and until the rule changes um I think
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: that's what you have to live with. I think, too,
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: when you get a quarterback out of the pocket, I
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: think they need to look at changing the rules a
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: little bit when they become potentially a runner. I know
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: he threw the ball in that situation, but they've got
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: to make football plays out there. You already take away
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: the whole can't get the body weight landing on the quarterback.
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: So there's so many different things they have to look
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: at where they're running 100 miles an hour trying to
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: make a defensive play with a game on the line,
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: and then something really borderline like that happens. And again,
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: it wasn't in the game-winning situation, but there was a
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: full-on face mask where Deshaun Watson gets his head twisted
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: around They don't call that. And so I think they
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: know they missed that call. So I almost wonder, I'm
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: sure Todd Munkin was in their ear about that. It
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: probably became a point of emphasis, that particular call moving
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: forward after that. Like, we can't just have face masks and,
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: you know, contact with the head kind of roughing the
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: quarterback calls not called.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Bryce got a couple roughing, too. You know, so they
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: called that both ways. And one of them I thought was.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: was a little, maybe a little lucky. But again, they
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: seem to be bone-erring on that side, on the quarterback's side, right?
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: What did you think of Bryce's performance yesterday?
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: I think he hung in.
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: I mean, to factor in the fact that obviously he
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: got his ankles or whatever dinged up at some point
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: in that game, you could see there were obvious plays
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: where he could have run and didn't run. Like, he
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: got out of the pocket. He's got open territory in
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: front of him. and he threw the ball into the stands,
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: actually into the dog pound.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: That exact play. That play. He could have ran. Do
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: you think it's the anchor?
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: I think he probably couldn't slide is my thought. He
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: obviously could move around and run a little bit. I
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: bet it was just like maybe they even said you're
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: not to run. I don't know that, but I think
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: that was an unusual-looking play in that he did not run.
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: And then the fact that he hung in under what
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: you said, all the duress, all the hits that he
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: was taking there. I mean, I lost count of actually
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: how many. He threw it into the dog pound twice.
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: And a couple times into the benches.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Tons of throwaways. Under pressure and just smart play.
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: So I think he hung in and still ended up
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: with 291 yards. And in theory, could have, should have
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: led a... winning touchdown drive with over four minutes to
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: go with Mechie.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Dude, he still dropped some dimes, though. There were some
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: plays that he missed and decisions that it's like, oh,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: you had him. But stuff like that where I think
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: his mind was a little messed up by the rush.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: But he still dropped some dimes. Those two back-to-back to
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Waller over the middle, some of those throws on the
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: touchdown drive once Brad got him moving were great. He hit, again,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: those sideline routes he's been throwing so well. He hit
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: a few of those.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: So, like, he still— Yeah, him and Tremaine, yeah, had
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: a couple good ones.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, Tremaine, that deep— and the deep ball was off, and
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: maybe— I don't know, maybe we were trying to force it. But, like,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: that Tremaine pass was sick, man.
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and you don't have Legat, and then, you know,
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: Coker was not 100%, and then eventually the second injury
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: for him, so— That chemistry has to be off when
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: you're not working with the starters you practiced with all
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: week in those situations. So I think that could be
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: some communications and thoughts of like, what do you thought
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: the route might have been in those situations? But there, too,
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: it's hard to pass when you can't run. I mean,
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: you need some amount of balance. It's not about getting
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: stats and this and that. It's about you need some
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: balance to make the defense have to take accountability for
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: we got to hold off on the run. And we
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: outside of the fourth quarter. Chuba got a couple, and
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: then A.J. Dillon got a couple later in the game.
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: But it was Chuba, the first 16 carries of the
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: game were Chuba. There was no second running back, and
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: that just wasn't going anywhere for most of that time.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: And then Dillon kind of got it going, you know,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: with those two back-to-back runs. Then Chuba came in, then
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: he kind of— Yeah, it does make you wonder if
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Dylan should have been in there a little sooner. Just,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: you know, change of pace. Do I want to say
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: something positive or do I save that for next week? Uh-oh.
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: I think it's time.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Hey, tight ends looked good yesterday.
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: They did.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: 11 for 128, I think was the number that he said. Yeah.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Tight ends. Tight ends. It was a concern entering the season.
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: We saw more walls. Waller, too. It wasn't just like
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: a red zone. He was out there, you know, first
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: and ten.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Mitchell Evans made some plays.
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: Trumbull made some plays. I talked with him this week
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: for the pregame show. And I like the fact that,
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: you know, we had some 13 personnel at times. I go,
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: when you're out there, it's like the part about your
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: role in this offense is like they don't know if
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: you're going to block or if you're going to be
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: receiving tight end on play. And you need some of
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: that because with Waller, he's basically, you know, receiver. He's
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: out there as a big receiver out there. With Evans,
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: it's a sneaky little extra thing. Like, is he going
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: to chip and then move out and throw the ball
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: to him like we used to do with Greg Olson
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: back in the day?
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: Where you kind of like take it for a second,
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: then go out into a pass route. But I think
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: I like the group collectively there as far as what
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: they're able to do. And Tremble, obviously, immediately making a
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: big catch in the game. I think he gets better
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: every year, too. Just wasn't enough of anything. Again, it
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: was just one of those games where one of the
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: two teams had to not lose as much as the
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: other one, more than it felt like somebody was going
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: to win the game.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: We're talking to Jim Zoki. He was in the booth yesterday.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Panthers Radio Network. We're getting our view from the booth.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: So we're getting a lot of questions about TMAC being
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: held to 2-for-17. And I heard Darren Waller, after the game,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: talk about... They clearly were scheming with other guys hurt
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: to kind of take him away. He also made an
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: interesting point. He said because Tyson Campbell, one of their
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: top man corners along with Denzel Ward, was out. He
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: said he wasn't surprised to see them play. a lot
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: more zone than they did last week and that they're
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: noted for. And I'll be damned if I looked at
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Sumer Sports and they had Cleveland with 62% zone. So
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: I think we all thought, oh, this man is coming.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: And they played a ton of zone. I don't know
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: if y'all talked about in the booth what they were
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: doing against TMAC and what they were doing defensively.
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: There was a lot.
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: I mean, clearly Denzel Ward was traveling side to side
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: most of the time, not all the time with him.
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: And then they had Blackman on Coker for a lot
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: of the game in there, too. And again, that's why
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: you can't be the same every week. The first week
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: when Cleveland lost, they did a lot of zone. Last
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: week against Tampa Bay, they switched to more man. And
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: I think they're thinking, OK, we have to play the
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: chess matchup. Like, they're going to expect this. They're looking
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: for man. We're going to trick it up with more
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: zone there. But again, with Ward, I mean, this is
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: a five-time Pro Bowl, I think, future Hall of Famer.
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: But I also think sometimes, too, it's like how you
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: always have your quarterback. Like, what's your best couple throws?
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: What makes you most comfortable for success? I think sometimes
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: you just have to scheme up. We're going to do
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: some kind of a route, a mesh concept or something
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: to free him up and get him the football because
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: he's your best option in the receiving game. So I
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: think that's the thing is like, could we have worked
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: maybe harder to? Yeah, he's a really good defender out there,
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: but he's a good receiver and he's got the size
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: advantage on him. Make it make him somehow. more available
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: in some way to get the ball into his hands
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: and then see if he can get that part of
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: the offense going.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Like, I'm looking at it right now. Denzel Ward didn't
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: go in the slot one time. And I'm looking at, so, okay,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: move T-Mac into the slot. Get that passed away from you.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: T-Mac was in the slot. Oh, I got the wrong
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: page up. I'll have to look that up, Bone. But, like,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: that's one of the things I was thinking. Like, I
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: know that they don't put Denzel in there. Did they
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: not do enough of moving T-Mac in there? Like teams
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: would do with Horn with us for years because they
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: would know now he goes in there a little bit.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: But to get guys away from Horn, they would put
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: guys in the slot. And we need to do more
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: of that.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Who's more locked up right now? T-Mac by Ward or
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Finney by his girlfriend?
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: You act like Finney's not there to answer the question
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: for himself.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: We don't hear from Phinney much anymore either. It's kind
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: of like TMAG yesterday. Look, he's back there. I'm telling you, Phinney,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: I am so proud of you. Maybe TMAG was at
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: the pumpkin patch. Phinney is taking so many strides as
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: a human being in the past. If he were, first
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: of all, he wouldn't have a date in the past.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: But secondly, Fitty, if you had a date on a
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Sunday night after a horrendously annoying Panther loss, you would
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: have tanked the date and the woman would never have
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: saw you again. Because she'd say, this dude's obsessed with football.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: He was a miserable human. But you said you went
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: on this date and completely put it out of your mind. Fitty,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: you are growing, my friend.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of scary, Mac. We went to this
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: place in Matthews called, like, Activate. And it's a room
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: where you have like a bunch of different activities. And
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: for three hours, I forgot about the Panthers couldn't block,
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: couldn't tackle.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: God, that's what it is.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: How bad of a broadcaster Mark Schlereth is. But then
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: four o'clock came. I woke up ready to bitch.
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: He rallied late.
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: Just like Deshaun Watson, he rallied late.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: God. And then the way that we, this Cleveland Deshaun
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: love fest that we created, it's like we had a
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: chance and they were still, how about when he goes
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: out hurt for that play or not hurt, but like
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: we hit him, you know, on that roughing and he
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: has to go out because he was down. And they
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: bring in Shador, and they're cheering the heck out of Shador.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: They're booing Watson when he comes back in. He immediately
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: throws the touchdown pass.
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: I'm like— He was being booed during the game-winning drive.
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: I know. And you couldn't take advantage of it.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: And you couldn't take advantage of it, Bone. At the
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: end of the game, Deshaun's like, I love you, Cleveland!
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: This is for you, Cleveland! I'm like, we— We did
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: that crap. We created that harmony. Is that a first,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: a guy being booed on the game-winning drive and then
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: he wins the game?
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: It's like they didn't know how to react.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Because usually when you get to the game-winning drive part
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: of it, you're not being booed anymore.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: He was still being booed in the game-winning drive. Making plays,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: still being booed. And by the end of the day, though, Zoke,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: let's go Watson.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: There was a let's go Watson chant.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: At the end.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: They're like, ah, what the hell?
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: I mean, in Cleveland, if you were alive, if O.J.
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: Simpson ran it in for a touchdown, they would have
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: cheered it. Like, O.J.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: So desperate for wins. Hey, that glove didn't say it. Oh,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: my gosh. There's so many frustrating avenues. Zoke, you don't
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: have to do this anymore, but we're here for another
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: two hours.
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: I'm just glad Fitty's in a good place. At least
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: there's some positive on him.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Are you all happy for Fitty or no? Probably not.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Not today. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe tomorrow. All right, Zoke. Thank you, brother.
• 31:54
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• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Are you happy for Finney? That could be one of many.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Let's throw that in there. Give them a little love
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: for that. I'm going to save that for the late
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: or Bryce conversation. But this is a good question to
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: ask the.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: Audience, too.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Are you happy for Finney? I don't know. I don't
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: know if people can bring themselves to be happy for
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: another human this morning.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: People are out for damn blood. Let's do a really
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: quick update while we're at it here. We got to
• 32:20
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• 33:01
  Speaker 2: After the loss yesterday to the Browns. You thought he
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: was stuck in a Cleveland gutter or something, baby? Nothing
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: would surprise me at this point. By the way, a
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: lot of people pointing out, though. I don't know why
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: you're all being positive right now. But we got four
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: people all at once saying, we're still tied for first
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: in a division, y'all. Still tied, Finney. That's all that matters.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Did I take your update from you?
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's okay. Some good news coming out of
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: the Oregon win over USC. Dante Moore, the Oregon quarterback,
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: only suffered a concussion. Very scary scene on Saturday night
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: at the Coliseum. The fact that Lincoln Reynolds did something
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: like that for one game, they should go ahead and
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: fire his ass anyway because that's a lack of control
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: of your program. They're just not playing for a month,
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: but only a concussion suffered for quarterback Dante Moore.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Although, Dylan Raiola? That office will matter with him than
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: it did with Dante Moore the first few years. It
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: must be nice to have enough money to where you
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: can pay two quarterbacks mint and have a guy like
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Raiola ready to come in, man. Yeah, Dan Morgan should
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: figure that out, right? God, man.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: When we come back, how do we feel about fans
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: blaming the injuries and the roughing the passer call for
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: the loss yesterday? Your thoughts and ours next on Sports
• 34:12
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• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, shoot, it was just, we were playing,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: we were playing pretty well. We were covering, we were
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: matching and the play ended up with an interception. So
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: it certainly was, it gave us a great chance to
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: try to be able to run the clock down. They
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: had timeouts. You still got to execute, but all of
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: a sudden the ball would be back in our court
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: to be able to finish the way we want to.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: So we extended the drive for them and If you
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: give a guy like Deshaun Watson a little bit of
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: extra time and a few more opportunities, he's going to
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: get creative and find something. So that would have been
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: a big one for us in a long drive.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: There you go. Coach Canales talking about the roughing penalty yesterday. Sucked, man.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: It sucked. We could have had Will Lee, Caleb Evans
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: being the heroes, and it wasn't to be, man. And
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I will say this. When I wrote that– Tease for
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: you to read bone going into this segment on our
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: show grid. I actually was anticipating fans being more pissed
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: off about the roughing the passer. We could talk about
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: it now. I don't I'm very surprised there have not
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: people are more pissed off about the O-line. People seem
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: to be arguing with each other now about Bryce and
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: the way he played. But it seems like I even
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: had a guy say the defense was horrible, which I
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: don't think is a very accurate statement. But I don't
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: know about you. I've been surprised. I really thought that
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: that call would get roasted more by Panther fans. Yeah,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, I hate it. Were you pissed about it,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: or did you just kind of, eh?
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: I got pissed at the Derrick Brown one a couple
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: weeks ago, and then Brenton Buckner was explaining to me how,
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: you know, you just can't put yourself in those situations.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: The quarterbacks are going to get those calls, right? Whether
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: or not we, you know, whether it's ticky-tack or not,
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: it's the letter of the law. So is it annoying
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: when it happens? It is, but I also thought yesterday
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Bryce benefited a little bit, too, from quarterback protection as well,
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: where I thought there was one where I didn't think
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: it was much of anything at all. So I'm pretty
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: sure that most all quarterbacks are protected. You just got
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: to figure out a way. I know it's hard for
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: these huge athletes to slow themselves down or to stop
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: from hitting the quarterback in the moment, but that's twice
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: now this year. Games have been largely determined by penalties
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: on the.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Quarterbacks big impact man yeah it's easier said than done
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: when you're that size you're running that fast there's a
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: guy who's run around on you throughout the day and
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: made plays running around so yeah there's some urgency to
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: get out there um uh so i just i don't
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: know what's insulted also that's like well that that seems
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: to be what's bothered people That's that seems like people
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: are more bothered by the selling of it than they are.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: But here's the thing, though. I can't sit here in
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: good conscience as a as a soccer coach that have
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: told my players bone to feel free to flop because
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: if it gets us a call. it can help us
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: win a game and I, and then say, Oh my God,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: he flopped. It's a little annoying, but it's more annoying
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: to me. The refs fall for flops than it is
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: that someone tries flopping. There was someone that compared him
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: to SGA that happened. Someone else wants to give him
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: an Academy award. Um, I just think there's so much
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: stuff bone that we could have done better. And it's
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: the Browns. It's like, are you begging the refs for
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: a call to beat Cleveland? I, I, I think the
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: injuries played a bigger role, but what good does it
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: do Bone to sit here and whine about injuries? Everybody
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: gets them, although it does feel like we've been hit
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: extremely hard for only week three of the season with injuries.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: And yesterday it did feel like key players were dropping
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: like flies, man.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it felt like every other play where either someone's
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: going out or we're getting an update on the sidelines
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: of Someone stretching something out. Bryce was bothered yesterday as well.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, the whole roster seemed to have something going
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: on yesterday. And that's just the guys that were healthy
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: going into yesterday outside of Coker. Never mind the guys
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: we're missing already. Guys like Skorton and Brazel, who certainly
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: will be helping things out big time.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: 100%.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Those guys got hurt so early, they're almost forgotten about
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: a little bit here.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, I believe the last couple of weeks or yesterday,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: we started to remember the tackles are out. Oh, by
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: the way, those two starting tackles could help because it's
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: been a rough couple of weeks for these two tackles
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: What happened to T-Mac yesterday? When did he get hurt? Well,
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: that's the problem here. T-Mac got his feelings hurt. T-Mac
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: was healthy. He was just, he was busy yesterday.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: A little bit.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: He kind of got a, he got a, he got
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: in conversation with Denzel Ward yesterday.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Got his dang feelings hurt, man. But anyway, I, I,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: that's the thing is I find myself more frustrated by
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: other parts of the game than the call itself. The
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: injuries are frustrating, but who are you going to yell at?
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: You'll yell at God. You know what I mean? Like,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: I just, I don't know what to do about that.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: And I don't, I yelled at God during the South
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: Carolina Bama game.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: This just in mackey he hasn't answered back yet oh
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: my gosh um uh let's see 704 number uh says
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: oh multiple people are saying this we got away princely
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: got away with a face mask on watson on one
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: of our two sacks and how about watson turned around
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: to the ref as he's getting his face mask pulled
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: and is saying look he's grabbed my face mask the
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: ref staring right at him Nah, I don't think, was
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: that the bad guy tax? Did he get a bad
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: guy tax there where it's like, hey, you're such a jerk,
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: I'm not giving you that call. But then he gets
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: the call in such a timely fashion. What do you think,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: this texter says, I'm glad someone else is ripping the defense.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: You said a fellow texter is. I feel like you
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: guys are being too kind to the defense. I have
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: to be honest, I'm shocked that somebody has called the
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: defense horrible. Like, if it wasn't for the defense bone,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: we could have been finished off and had no chance
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: to even rally in this game.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: The offense was doing so little for a while from
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Cleveland's perspective.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: They were booing.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: I know that there's a lot that goes into that
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: with Watson, but they weren't exactly lighting up the Panthers.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Their crowd was booing Watson. So it wasn't like a
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: huge offensive performance by the Browns. It was an ugly
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: game all around, but it wasn't like I looked and said,
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: oh my God, the defense is getting torched. They had
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: 259 yards of total offense.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Did they run it a little better than I hoped
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: they would? Yeah, they ran it the best they have
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: all season. It was still our best run defense game statistically.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: I got to be honest, I was utterly shocked, and
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: maybe this means I don't know that much. I did
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: not know that Watson still had the wheels like that
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: at 31 with knee injury history. He did the Caleb
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Williams on us quite a few times. Their leading receiver
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: was Fannin with 51. The young wideouts had 41 for Boston,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: 9 for KC. sanderson so it's not like the they
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: had one pass even without mike jack in there and
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: then horn at the end i i know that fannin
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: had the the two touchdowns but i didn't feel like
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: the secondary was getting torched they had one pass play
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: of over 14 yards um the and and let's face
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: it the first 10 points of the game were because
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: we went for it on fourth down the offense couldn't
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: get it we gave them the ball at our own
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: 46 and our own 40. That's the 10 points right
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: there in the first half. Then we went five series
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: in a row, Bone, where Cleveland totaled zero points and
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: two yards. Two yards and five series. The problem with
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: the defense is once we got the lead, they gave
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: up points each freaking time. But it's hard. You can't
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: say they were horrible, but it's like, my God, finish
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: the game. Fit, somebody said what you said. This dude said,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: our ends still weren't containing. It reminded me of the
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Bears game.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: I feel like, Mac, they're getting too far upfield. And
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: to me, it looks like that Phillips lines up way outside.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: And maybe that's something that they need to change schematically.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: He was getting pressure, but to your point, Watson was
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: taking off.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: It was the wrong kind of pressure because they're not
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: being able to funnel it back into Derrick Brown.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: By the way, we can have a conversation about him.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: He got thoroughly outplayed yesterday by Mason Graham.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: Mason Graham was the best interior defensive lineman on the
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: football field.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: I thought Derrick Brown had some good moments too, though.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: How about when Lee Hunter and Derrick Brown chased down
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: Watson yesterday?
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: What a play by Lee Hunter. Lee Hunter turns him
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: back and then there's the other big fella.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: Stink on the broadcast gave credit to Derrick Brown, but
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking, man, Lee Hunter just made that play right there.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Is it possible, Phitty, I can scream at the guys
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: trying to block Mason Graham instead of Derrick Brown? Yes.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: We can do both. If Derrick Brown was going up
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: against our offensive line, you think he would have maybe
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: had even more stats?
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: Oh, he would have set the record for most pressures, hurries,
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: sacks in a game. But I do think that's something
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: that Averro, and I don't want someone to do his job.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not Willie P.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: But I do think that's something that he's got to
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: look at because, man, this is two out of three
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: games where we're getting the type of pressure you want.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: But the pressure is allowing him, because there's just a
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: wide open lane. There's no one there where you're funneling
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: him back into to keep him coddled in the pocket.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Against Caleb Williams, they would go inside and he would
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: run outside. Against Watson, it was what you're saying. It
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: was more of guys rushing outside, trying to get to him.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: He steps up, but can go between the end and
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: the tackles. And I will say this, though, Fitty, next
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: week is Jared Goff. go at them. You know what
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: I mean? But in these games against, against the quarterbacks
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: that can move. Yeah.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: And I thought they did.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: And not have a better job there to run him
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: down was a big miss as well.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: And not having that guy. Cause I don't know if
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: he runs away from Devin Lloyd. Well, there also was
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: the touchdown too, where he, O'Kerrick, he leaves Fannin to
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: go after Watson and Watson makes a smart play and
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: just throws it. It's just, Did you have to leave him?
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: I'm terrified of Gibbs next week, though. I will say that.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: Our ability sometimes to miss tackles. Jameer Gibbs is a nightmare.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: We're still the worst run defense in the NFL statistically.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: That's a problemo.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: We might need to send DVR Dave to Detroit. For what? Why?
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: So he's not at the doghouse? Show up in your
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Reaper outfit, maybe scare Gibbs. Oh, man. Because he's going
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: to go hog wild on Sunday Night Football. That's a
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: tough matchup, man. And we don't know who's going to
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: play either. You know, it's so hard to think about
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: that game.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: When we come back, we want to hear from happy
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: Wake fans, angry South Carolina fans, everyone in between. It's
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: college football, pumped or pissed, a Monday staple. That's next
• 45:22
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