Latest / The Bull Brotherhood / S02Ep12 - What Really Happened at Houston Splash? The Truth About Our Experience
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- 1:45Let's go. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen,
- 2:01and welcome to another informative episode of
- 2:03the Bull Brotherhood podcast. I'm the one and
- 2:06only Sigma male, Brian Morgan, the lone wolf
- 2:08coming at you as one third of the podcast family,
- 2:12along with the beautiful couple of siren and
- 2:15Socrates. Ladies and gentlemen, how you doing?
- 2:19Doing good. Doing real good, real good, Unc.
- 2:23What's good with you and welcome back from what
- 2:27I hear, an exciting tour of Houston, Texas and
- 2:31this Splash Mocha, another Splash Mocha event.
- 2:35How was it, y 'all? Man, it was, you know, I
- 2:40always say, people ask me, what's your favorite
- 2:44one? I'm always like the last one I went to.
- 2:48But, you know, Houston is the favorite location
- 2:50for sure. You know, we always learn. We always
- 2:56go in there with some goals, like mental and
- 2:58emotional goals to achieve. We never go in there
- 3:01with numbers or anything like that. We're always
- 3:04in there, like, how can we improve ourselves?
- 3:06That kind of thing. And we got a lot. We have
- 3:08a lot. What is it about Houston that, like, makes
- 3:13it your favorite? Siren, you want to go first?
- 3:17I just already just have a special place in my
- 3:20heart for the Houston men. They always take real
- 3:23good care of me inside and outside of Splash.
- 3:27And then I think to in Fort Lauderdale, I just
- 3:31before I went there, I went there with three
- 3:34things that I wanted to make sure that I achieved.
- 3:39In the past, I really did focus on numbers. I
- 3:41wanted to get a lot of play going. And then,
- 3:45you know, once you kind of. get that craziness
- 3:47out of your system. You can slow down and really
- 3:50think about what you want, like you say, evolve.
- 3:53So I went in there with the mentality of making
- 3:56sure I was where I wanted to be, with who I wanted
- 3:59to be, doing what I wanted to be doing. So that
- 4:04really worked well in Fort Lauderdale. And I
- 4:08damn near nailed it. And then in Houston. I think
- 4:12I had it going, but then I wasn't feeling well.
- 4:15So I didn't get to, you know, execute according
- 4:18to like what I wanted, you know, perfectly. And
- 4:21there was, you know, little hiccups. But overall,
- 4:24I think that Houston is just a great place with
- 4:29great people. There's a lot of local people that
- 4:31are really great and a lot of local men, especially
- 4:34the ladies are very supportive that are from
- 4:36the area. A lot of them, I'm blessed to call
- 4:39friends. So that's really what makes Houston
- 4:43my favorite. And that was her first splash. That
- 4:47was her first and second splash. Oh really? Oh
- 4:48yeah, yeah. When we first came, that was the
- 4:51first time Houston was where we started. Back
- 4:57to the birthing of Splash Mocha. It's also where
- 5:00she got her name Siren. Yeah. Ah, okay. So that
- 5:07was like the... I was born in Houston. Go ahead,
- 5:10I'm sorry. I was also born in Houston. Oh, really?
- 5:12So that's home. Just keeps adding up. Okay. Okay.
- 5:16Okay. So, like, the baptism and the rebirth,
- 5:21huh? Right. All in one? Sounds like a winner.
- 5:27Sounds like a winner. Who did you meet, like,
- 5:31new or... I mean, just give me, like, a rundown
- 5:34of pretty much what you did, you know? from like
- 5:37the time you got there and to the time you started
- 5:40playing, et cetera, et cetera. Who'd you meet?
- 5:43Who'd you wish you would have met? Did you make
- 5:46some great connections, et cetera? Well, we did
- 5:49it a little bit differently this time. We had
- 5:52some business things going on. So Socrates came
- 5:54in on Wednesday. I came in on Tuesday and a gentleman
- 5:58from the area picked me up and brought me to
- 6:02the hotel and got me settled in and then You
- 6:05know, we did something that was new for us. We
- 6:07don't we haven't done a lot. We've each just
- 6:09done it once since we've meeting each other and
- 6:12we we have stayed overnight. So we made a, you
- 6:16know, a special occasion kind of thing out of
- 6:18it. I wasn't sure how I would feel about that,
- 6:22you know, because I I have sleep apnea, I have
- 6:25a CPAP, you know, just just different things.
- 6:28It was more about how I would if I would get
- 6:30my rest with someone that wasn't my husband in
- 6:34the room with me. Versus being nervous about
- 6:37the person, you know, I felt safe and comfortable
- 6:38with him. But just that process so so that went
- 6:42just fine And then the next day I just wasn't
- 6:48feel I started just like not feeling great like
- 6:50just lower energy Took in I think I played Around
- 6:57noon a guy came, you know on Wednesday from the
- 7:01area, but he was also going to be a part of splash
- 7:03and we played Then I took a nap and then about
- 7:06that time it was time to go get my husband So
- 7:10I you know rode to the airport with the gentleman
- 7:12that had picked me up and we got him got him
- 7:15to the hotel and You know got him settled in
- 7:18and then we just started mingling right away
- 7:21I finished out the evening with a couple more
- 7:24local guys from the area that you know, because
- 7:28it's Wednesday night, you know, anybody can come
- 7:30in the hotel. And I had met them previously at
- 7:34a party, so they didn't attend Splash, but they
- 7:37were there before that. And then by Thursday
- 7:43morning, I was really not feeling well. I had
- 7:46some definite, you know, exhaustion and emotions,
- 7:49you know, just worked through just from not feeling
- 7:52good. worked through those, decided that it was
- 7:56best for me to just go by what I was talking
- 8:00about. If I am not feeling well, I need to just
- 8:03go to the room and rest. I need to not try to
- 8:05push myself, not try to do a bunch. And Socrates
- 8:09consistently checked on me throughout the weekend.
- 8:14And I just kept saying, go play, go play. I'm
- 8:17going to bed at whatever time I need to go to
- 8:19bed. for my body, and I'll see you when I see
- 8:21you. We do a lockdown date every month, and that's
- 8:25coming up tomorrow, where we spend 24 hours just
- 8:28with each other. We don't talk to nobody else.
- 8:31We may or may not go anywhere. Usually, we just
- 8:33stay at home and just have some connection time.
- 8:36So I knew that was coming up. So I was like,
- 8:39here's the place where we can be with all these
- 8:41people. And when we get home, we'll have our
- 8:44connection time. So. He was great. He kept checking
- 8:48in on me, but I just kept encouraging him go
- 8:50play and go have a good time I did have He organized
- 8:55a gangbang for me and another gal that's from
- 8:58our area that was in attendance The tag team
- 9:02taters Um, so anyways, that was a good time.
- 9:10He did a really good job with that. Um, usually
- 9:13he has a hard time not jumping in because he
- 9:15wants to be part of the fun and the beauty that's
- 9:17going around, but he did real good just facilitating
- 9:20the gangbang and letting the other guys have
- 9:22their fun with us and jumped in a little bit
- 9:25at the end, got some good videos and pictures
- 9:27for him, for me to have his memories. So that's
- 9:30nice. Um, and then I just, you know - That's
- 9:33what you're supposed to do. Yeah. Then I just
- 9:36made sure that I had - You know, good quiet connections.
- 9:41Room parties, I really have to gear up for those.
- 9:44They're not necessarily my jam. I know a lot
- 9:46of people love them. They're great. Socrates,
- 9:49he loves them. He went to a bunch. I didn't go
- 9:51to a single one, and I was perfectly happy with
- 9:53that. I love my one -on -one connections with
- 9:56guys. I love that chance to just slow down, talk.
- 10:00Like, my life is very busy outside of Splash.
- 10:03So I think for me to be able to slow down there
- 10:06and just relax and then really enjoy whatever
- 10:11moment I'm in with whoever I'm in it with is
- 10:13really important to me and really meets my needs
- 10:16for Splash. Whereas Socrates is a people person,
- 10:21he's an extrovert, being around people just charges
- 10:24his battery. So, you know, we just really both
- 10:28negated Splash in the way that was best for us.
- 10:31And we learned you know, how to navigate it a
- 10:33little bit better next time, you know, as a couple
- 10:36or, you know, run around separately. So we always
- 10:40learn something. We always talk before and after
- 10:43about what worked, what didn't work, and we just
- 10:47keep improving on it. So if I hadn't been feeling
- 10:50poorly throughout and just saving every little
- 10:53bit of energy for any playtime I could get, then
- 10:56I would have said it was damn near perfect. So.
- 11:02It's not like you had a good time, regardless
- 11:04of the situation. And it was very sweet. Right
- 11:07away on Wednesday, a lady ran up to me and she
- 11:09was like, Siren, Siren, I'm so sorry. I'm just,
- 11:14I'm fangirling. And I was like, oh, you're fine,
- 11:16you're fine. She's like, me and my husband, we
- 11:18listen to your podcast all the time in the car
- 11:20when we're driving together. And she was just
- 11:23really excited and... So I was like, oh, I met
- 11:26my first big fan. It was very sweet. Really nice
- 11:31lady. So it's just, you know, people are getting
- 11:34a lot of benefit from the podcast that we do.
- 11:36And that's really what we want is to help our
- 11:39community and to, you know, give them more knowledge,
- 11:42more encouragement and more resources. So if
- 11:46that's being accomplished, that's all I can ask
- 11:48for. You know, if you know my name or not, that's.
- 11:51You know irrelevant, but if you're getting what
- 11:54you need out of the podcast that we share then
- 11:56then that's a win for me. So soccer cheese, what
- 11:59about you? Well It was a lot like I say um But
- 12:06I do want to say first off. Thank you to all
- 12:08the listeners that did come up to me and share
- 12:11their thoughts and you know how much they are
- 12:13enjoying the podcast and I want to also encourage
- 12:17you guys, you know, email us. We're on telegram
- 12:21The Bull Brotherhood is on Telegram. I'll put
- 12:25that link on there. You know, but I really, really
- 12:28enjoyed that. I really enjoyed hearing, you know,
- 12:33all of it was positive, but I'm open to any kind
- 12:37of criticism you might have that we can get better.
- 12:40Or at least clarify, nah, that's how we gonna
- 12:42talk, because we're gonna be bold. We're gonna
- 12:44say what we believe in. We're gonna stand on
- 12:46business. But that was awesome. As far as me,
- 12:50I was out of sorts in the beginning because she
- 12:54was not feeling well because Here's the thing
- 12:57you guys like there was one time the second splash.
- 13:01I missed my Achilles trying to play basketball
- 13:03And I had to go in a boot and I was at the end
- 13:09towards the end of it Like I wasn't really in
- 13:11a bad shape, but there was a time where we were
- 13:13thinking about how I'm off I can make it she's
- 13:15like look food if I have to wheel you around
- 13:19In a wheelchair we go we going and I'm like,
- 13:22okay, you know, so this is the highlight of her
- 13:25year We do it three times a year. It's the highlight
- 13:28of our lifestyle, you know, and I'm ready to
- 13:32kind of expand but you know, it's something that
- 13:35she truly loves she doesn't get that kind of
- 13:37treat a lot of other places and I just really
- 13:43loved How well she handled it I didn't believe
- 13:49her, it should be she kept saying, I'm fine daddy,
- 13:52there's nothing the way you can do, go have fun.
- 13:56And. So you got a chance, go ahead, go ahead.
- 14:00No, go ahead. No, so you got a chance to actually
- 14:04get out there and maneuver. Of course she knows,
- 14:09you know, she knows that she's giving you the
- 14:12green light to go out there and just do your
- 14:14thing. So how did you approach? I mean, did you
- 14:19go out there and just be my typical nephew and
- 14:23get bug wild? Or did you take some of what Uncle's
- 14:29been telling you and, you know, go out there
- 14:34and play with it a little bit? Well, Siren would
- 14:36disagree with it in the way it's explained. So
- 14:38I would say it's kind of both. I took your advice
- 14:43in the sense that... I have ADHD and it's not
- 14:47an excuse. I'm working on it, but I really do.
- 14:50And so I am kind of a squirrel person. And I
- 14:53took your advice, Mr. Mocha, I mean all the entire
- 14:56squad, Pagan, it doesn't matter who you mention.
- 14:59And I slowed down a little bit. And I tried to
- 15:03sit in places and just chill and watch. And what
- 15:07started to happen is people started coming to
- 15:08me. And then I would... started getting the buzz
- 15:14and then I would get back into my ADHD a little
- 15:17bit and then I would stop myself, calm back down
- 15:20and chill. And another thing that I did was huge
- 15:23this time. I didn't do much at all in the playrooms
- 15:25besides the glory home. That's my spot. I'm always
- 15:28going to go there. But like the big playrooms
- 15:30and some of the other wife watching rooms and
- 15:32all those things, I'm usually in there and I
- 15:35didn't. I decided this time I wanted to really
- 15:39start chilling, hanging with the boys. talking
- 15:42to the squad, seeing how they're doing, catching
- 15:45up with them, and really getting to know couples,
- 15:49sitting down and talking to them for a long time.
- 15:51I speak Spanish, and I don't have an opportunity
- 15:55to practice my Spanish where I live. So I met
- 15:58a couple where the husband didn't speak English
- 16:01and the wife was bilingual. So I was able to
- 16:04kind of practice my Spanish and chill with them.
- 16:09And converse and get really get to know them
- 16:11and then I spent a little bit more a lot more
- 16:12time in the in the in the room parties and It
- 16:17was much more of a vibe. It was much more of
- 16:19my vibe And so yeah, I listened to what you said
- 16:22I'd sit back a lot more than I normally do now
- 16:25I think this next one is gonna be people aren't
- 16:28even gonna recognize me because I see the vision
- 16:30now I see what especially you and mr. Mocha have
- 16:33been saying you guys were surely missed by the
- 16:36way You guys are really missed there. Everyone
- 16:38asked. Everyone asked about you guys. But the
- 16:42specific advice you guys gave me to sit back,
- 16:45chill, be observant, pay attention, and take
- 16:51a breather, watch what's going on, that worked
- 16:55tremendously. But I will say this, Siren, we
- 17:00used to get into it because... The way she wanted
- 17:05to manage The the women I played with especially
- 17:10if it's local was very very hands -on and I would
- 17:14say look I don't have a problem with that insecure
- 17:17jealous. They need to know our bond They need
- 17:20to know how much we love each other You know,
- 17:23but you're doing too much. The only thing I need
- 17:26you to do is Let them know one thing and it should
- 17:29be a hundred percent truth. We are solid Like
- 17:34me and Socrates over there That's sealed. There's
- 17:40nothing you can do to take that man away from
- 17:42me. The only the only person is gonna lose Socrates
- 17:45is siren That's it so she did that and she did
- 17:51it in her own way and I'll let her talk about
- 17:53it if she wants to talk about how but That I
- 17:56think made the difference. I didn't have to go
- 17:58out there chasing anything pursuing anything
- 18:01Follow up, you know, we're business people. So
- 18:04I had a story to tell and It was my first it
- 18:10was my first splash and There was this girl and
- 18:13to this day when I see her something in me just
- 18:16it just electrifies. She's She has this kind
- 18:20of southern Feminine swag. I don't know what
- 18:25you want to call it that just gets me going So
- 18:30she was one of the first women I said hey, you
- 18:32know if you're you know, if you're you know You're
- 18:35okay with it. I'd like to You know play with
- 18:37you. That's how I said it too nervous stuttering.
- 18:40She said oh, yeah be great. Yeah, let's catch
- 18:42up later We're business we're business people
- 18:47me and me and siren One of the biggest things
- 18:51we say to each other all time is fortune is in
- 18:53the follow -up Well that don't work at Splash
- 18:57Mocha gentlemen Not the way I did because I followed
- 19:03up yes, you know every time She said yeah Yeah,
- 19:07let's catch up later I Followed up two more times
- 19:12the third time when she was like Yeah, catch
- 19:16up. Let's catch up later. You know what she said
- 19:18it Sunday as we're leaving with our luggage I
- 19:25said I said I'll never ever doing that again
- 19:30now funny thing is I ended up in a room party
- 19:33and she the first thing she did was trip her
- 19:35clothes off and jumped on my dick, but That's
- 19:39not the point. Oh on this one. No the next one.
- 19:42Oh the one right after that Cuz I remember I
- 19:46was upset about it and everything I was like,
- 19:48oh, I'm never doing that again So I said all
- 19:53that to say I didn't have to. Because I was like,
- 19:58I am not doing that. I'm here. I know the value
- 20:01I bring. I'm one who masters my craft. I take
- 20:06pride in it. And I'm a lover of women. I am in
- 20:09love with my wife. But she knows I appreciate
- 20:13women's body, their femininity, their magic,
- 20:15their power, their ability to create life. She
- 20:18knows that. So that's valuable. That's something
- 20:22of value. I don't want to spend my energy chasing
- 20:27anybody but my wife. Now, I will pursue you,
- 20:33but I chase my wife all around here mentally,
- 20:36emotionally, well, not physically because I can't
- 20:39keep up with her sexually, but I just can't keep
- 20:42up with that. But I chase my wife. I ain't chasing
- 20:45a woman I might not ever see. I think you're
- 20:46scaring the guys away. You're scaring them away.
- 20:50It's not like that, guys. It's like that, guys.
- 20:52You'll be fine. You won't be fine. You'll be
- 20:55fine. I want to speak to the comfort part. So
- 21:02I think what really helped when he's referring
- 21:06to is not only what I did in the ladies chat,
- 21:09but also what we did in the vent chat. And I
- 21:12think more people that are coupled up would do
- 21:18well to... Present this in the event mingle.
- 21:21So I really want to push this and it's the idea
- 21:25that Especially if you're in an interracial relationship
- 21:29and you're going to splash that just creates
- 21:32a level of a Little bit of a barrier, you know
- 21:36people don't quite know how to approach you because
- 21:39it's very different a lot, you know is like you
- 21:42know, white couples are going there to seek a
- 21:45single black man, you know? So when an interracial
- 21:47couple goes, it's a little bit different. So
- 21:50what we did is, in the chat, I put a picture
- 21:53of Socrates. This is just in the event mingles,
- 21:56and I said, hey, we're Siren and Socrates. We
- 21:59play separately. Stamp of approval. Ladies go,
- 22:03you know, you don't have to ask my permission.
- 22:05If you see me, say hi. I'd love to meet you.
- 22:08And then in the ladies chat, I did that like
- 22:11a little closer to the event. Then he did the
- 22:13same thing. He posted pictures of me, you know,
- 22:16a couple of us as a couple says, hey, fellas,
- 22:18this is my wife. You know, be respectful, tell
- 22:21it's time to be disrespectful and, you know,
- 22:23go for it. So I think that really helped. Then
- 22:26I saw a few other couples follow suit. But it
- 22:29really, you know, the feedback I heard was it
- 22:32really helped the couples that did do that so
- 22:35that people knew like OK, this is how we can
- 22:39approach them. So there was one couple that was
- 22:41going to be, you know, a cuckold couple and they
- 22:45were going to be there with her boyfriend. And
- 22:48so she's like, hey, we play separately. We don't
- 22:50have to ask permission, you know, her and her
- 22:52boyfriend. So she's like, feel free to approach.
- 22:56So a few people did that. And I really would
- 22:58like that to catch on because I think it just
- 23:00helped people to be prepared so they didn't have
- 23:04to, you know, wonder so much like. So if you're
- 23:07a little on the shot, of course, you can just
- 23:09go up and ask, hey, what's your dynamic? You
- 23:11know, how is this? But it takes away a little
- 23:13bit of that nervousness when you just know up
- 23:15front. And a lot of the ladies said that that
- 23:17really they really appreciated that. And that
- 23:19gave them the confidence and they really admired
- 23:21that to be able for me to just say, hey, this
- 23:24is what's going on. You know, go for it. You
- 23:29don't have to find especially because they couldn't
- 23:30find me. I was in the room, you know, that would
- 23:33that able enabled him to. You know get a lot
- 23:36of playtime because you know if they would have
- 23:39been trying to find me I guess they could have
- 23:40just came to the room leave a note Sign up for
- 23:43soccer team I Don't know but you know they didn't
- 23:49need to ask permission so and in the past I had
- 23:51been kind of like hey I would at least like to
- 23:54be acknowledged first and now I'm just like,
- 23:57you know, if you see me say hi So was that a
- 24:01was that a big thing for you that you were able
- 24:04to? Feel comfortable enough to be just like baby
- 24:07go do your thing, you know No, no one has to
- 24:10like come to me and I kind of vet them or anything
- 24:13like that. Just do your thing I'm good with it.
- 24:16Yeah, you love me that's taken that's definitely
- 24:19been an evolution for me over the last three
- 24:21years because You know it like we didn't even
- 24:25play separately at all until we went to our first
- 24:29splash about eight months into the lifestyle
- 24:31and then it was probably at least another six
- 24:34months before we played separately back at home,
- 24:38and now that's pretty much our go -to most of
- 24:40the time, unless we're having parties. No, it
- 24:42was more like a year. It was more like a year.
- 24:43Another year? There was, yeah, because there
- 24:46was three, or at least three, splashes where
- 24:48you were like, you know, I feel comfortable at
- 24:52Splash because it's this and it's that, but not
- 24:54out there. Yeah, not at home. Yeah. Yeah. I think
- 24:59it was just the, yeah, there was just multiple
- 25:02levels of, you know, my own insecurities that
- 25:05I had to work through myself. Had nothing to
- 25:07do with our relationship, but it just had to
- 25:10do with me overcoming those. And that's where
- 25:12it's like, you know, Socrates has referred to
- 25:15it before, is that the lifestyle has been my
- 25:17dojo. You know, he's like, do you want to get
- 25:19out? Do you want to take a break? He offers that
- 25:21any time that I come upon a mountain that I need
- 25:24to conquer. And I just say, what do I mostly
- 25:27say? to you when you offer that. No, I need to
- 25:30learn. I need to figure this out anyway. So I
- 25:34might as well do it now. Yeah, and if it's not
- 25:38coming up in the lifestyle, if we shook the lifestyle
- 25:39away, it's just going to come out somewhere else.
- 25:41You know, if I have if I have an area of opportunity,
- 25:45an area that I need to grow in, it's going to
- 25:48come out regardless of what I'm involved in in
- 25:51my life. It's going to come out in my work. It's
- 25:52going to come out my friendship somewhere. So
- 25:55I might as well deal with it head on together
- 25:57as a team than to just try to eliminate things.
- 26:02You know, you can't wrap me in bubble wrap forever.
- 26:06So, yeah, it was to answer your question, you
- 26:09know, it was a big. jump for me to do that but
- 26:11I really felt from Fort Lauderdale to Houston
- 26:15like bridging that gap that you know and and
- 26:18also with me just making sure that I was getting
- 26:21my own needs met and making sure instead of worrying
- 26:25about what he's doing like why am I not making
- 26:28sure that I'm having fun and doing what I want
- 26:30to be doing. So when I focused it sounds selfish,
- 26:33but when I actually focused on myself a little
- 26:36bit more on like what I wanted then I didn't
- 26:39have time or space to be Jealous or insecure
- 26:44or worried about anything else, you know So yeah,
- 26:49it's just been a good good growth. So and it
- 26:51went great had lots of ladies come and send me
- 26:55messages and say how well he took care of them.
- 26:59And, you know, I thank them for giving them a
- 27:00fun time and yeah, it was great. Good deal. So
- 27:06I can tell you how long did it take you once
- 27:09you ventured out to feel like totally comfortable
- 27:12doing, you know, being able to go out and just
- 27:15handle business, knowing that mom was good, you
- 27:19know, she gave you the green light. Oh no, I
- 27:22never felt comfortable. That didn't happen until
- 27:24maybe two days after we got back. I benefited
- 27:27from the fact a little bit, maybe having the
- 27:29podcast. I've been there, this is my eighth time.
- 27:32I've got friends in the lifestyle. I'm a halfway
- 27:36decent looking guy. I think what happened is
- 27:40some things are compounding. A lot of things
- 27:42I learned from you guys, my own personal journey.
- 27:45So the fact that she put that message out, that
- 27:48allowed a lot to come to me. But I was out of
- 27:51sorts the whole time, because that's my wife.
- 27:55At the end of the day, I enjoy these women. Some
- 27:58of these people are my friends. Some of these
- 28:00people work with us. We've stayed at their homes.
- 28:06This is more than just a little vacation. But
- 28:09if my wife's not okay, I'm not okay. And like
- 28:13she said, I kept checking on her. It's more of
- 28:15like, I'll stay in, you want to stay in? I have
- 28:17other things planned." She took it like I was
- 28:19throwing it in her face, but I was like, I have
- 28:21things planned, I need to cancel, give me a second,
- 28:24but I'll stay. She's like, no, there's nothing
- 28:27you can do. You're just gonna sit here on your
- 28:30phone while I'm sleeping. Yeah, it didn't make
- 28:33any sense. Why would both of us? Well, and the
- 28:35same was when you had that Fort Lauderdale experience
- 28:38where... You know, we had a little medication
- 28:40mix -up and it was making things not go so well
- 28:44for Socrates and a number of areas and You know,
- 28:48she can just say it my dick wouldn't work. Yeah
- 28:51You need to take Cialis not tramadol Pro tip
- 28:55and then you were also having digestive issues
- 28:57too. So, you know and you didn't Hold me back.
- 29:02You know, I came into the room early a couple
- 29:04of different times, spent time with you, put
- 29:06you to bed, then go back out. You know, I made
- 29:08sure and take care of you as much as you wanted
- 29:11to be taken care of. But you didn't say, oh,
- 29:14just stay in the room with me the whole time.
- 29:16I mean, there's no reason that we should both
- 29:18miss out. You know, what are you going to do
- 29:21while I'm sleeping? So. It was good for me to
- 29:24just get some rest. And we had just gone on another
- 29:26trip right before, so it all kind of just added
- 29:29up for me. What really helped, too, is, you know,
- 29:31my boys, man. Michael C. was just, you know,
- 29:34how you do. He was doing his thing, and I was
- 29:35able to hang out with Pagan, and I was able to
- 29:37hang out and meet some other cats. I don't know
- 29:39if they want me mentioning their names, but I
- 29:42can mention Raven because he's going to be on
- 29:43the podcast. You know, you're going to get to
- 29:45meet him. He's super cool. So, you know, those
- 29:49are the things that kind of got me through. Worried
- 29:53about her being and I was able to enjoy myself
- 29:55and honestly I think Probably about 80 % of the
- 29:59people I played with were people I already played
- 30:01with like people I'm comfortable with so, you
- 30:04know those people and then after a while I played
- 30:07with some new people I haven't met some people
- 30:09I've had my eye on and some things like that
- 30:12that Then I was more comfortable because all
- 30:17of I knew that my friends were checking on her
- 30:20I had other people checking on her She had a
- 30:22bunch of she has plenty of friends because again,
- 30:25she's we know a lot of people here I mean there
- 30:27in Houston. We have a great great French friend
- 30:30group there Houston and Dallas actually a Lot
- 30:34of people from Dallas that we now know and we're
- 30:36good friends with so That kind of got me through,
- 30:39but I'm out of sorts seeing my wife, because
- 30:42she is the most jovial and energetic at Splash
- 30:46than anything. So, yeah. Yeah, it was weird too,
- 30:51because I just kept getting up and leaving situations,
- 30:54and then he would like, I would be like, I'm
- 30:55going to the room, and he would come after me.
- 30:57He's like, are you mad at me? Is everything okay?
- 30:59And I was like, I just don't feel good. And it
- 31:02was actually starting to irritate me that he
- 31:04wouldn't believe me. because I was like, babe,
- 31:07you're not doing anything wrong. And usually
- 31:09you don't get sick until the end. Like, we'll
- 31:11get swingers flu. We've done it. We've been there
- 31:14eight times. We've had it like six out of eight
- 31:17or five out of eight times. Right. But remember,
- 31:19we had usually you're cool through it. Right.
- 31:21But we had gone on a trip for five days with
- 31:23our family. Then I was only home for one day
- 31:26and then I left again. And so I was just worn
- 31:29out. So yeah, I usually but you know what? I
- 31:32didn't get full -blown sick because I did take
- 31:35that time But yeah, I was almost getting pissed
- 31:37at him for not believing me that like I just
- 31:40don't feel good I love you. I just don't feel
- 31:42good any energy that I have I'm saving to like
- 31:46get a few play dates in while I'm here we can
- 31:48connect when we get home like But he was always
- 31:52you know, making sure I was out of sorts Well,
- 31:56I tell you what I absolutely love that soccer
- 31:58cheese that lets the listeners and the followers
- 32:01know that, especially the bulls that may have
- 32:05wives or girlfriends or significant others or
- 32:07whatever, that mama comes first. I don't give
- 32:11a damn where we are. She comes first. If she
- 32:15doesn't feel well, I don't feel well. So that's
- 32:19what makes what you guys have extra special.
- 32:26It really does. So I commend you. I commend you
- 32:30for staying by her side, making sure that she
- 32:31was absolutely 100 % okay, you know, before you
- 32:34went out and did what you did. So, that's all
- 32:38to you, brother. Yeah, I tell her, look, I said,
- 32:40I don't care if I'm doing the nastiest, dirtiest,
- 32:43craziest thing away from you. You know what makes
- 32:45it amazing? Is I have this amazing woman at home.
- 32:48Because people don't understand about me. I had
- 32:51a hard time translating vanilla life to lifestyle,
- 32:55believe it or not. Being the philosopher that
- 32:57I am. I had a lot of problems because, trust
- 33:01me, I have been a backup dancer for a rap group.
- 33:04I have been every kind of thing in a nightclub.
- 33:08I've owned my own club. Salsa dancers. Listen,
- 33:12I can go to a bar, salsa club, grocery store,
- 33:15and pick up a woman anytime. I'm not bragging.
- 33:18I'm just saying, like, that's my past. I have
- 33:21a gigolo, pick up artist, Manosphere past. You
- 33:26know, I was reading books about picking up women.
- 33:28when I was 19 years old. So this is nothing new
- 33:32to me. The thing, what new to me is the new world
- 33:34of lifestyle. My wife is what makes this sexy
- 33:40and fun and crazy because about 80 % of it I
- 33:44did already before I even knew what lifestyle
- 33:46was on my single years in between relationships
- 33:49or before, you know, it's like when you were,
- 33:52when you were part of a rap group back in the
- 33:54nineties, you know, I wasn't but like 17. and
- 33:57I was a backup dancer, they didn't go anywhere,
- 34:00but you're in Vegas performing, and there's 30
- 34:03-year -old, damn near model -looking women jumping
- 34:06on you, that makes an impression on you. So it's
- 34:10not like I'm not used to that. I'm not used to
- 34:12it with a beautiful woman that loves me and that
- 34:16has had my back when I was broke, when I met
- 34:19her. I pay 90 % of the bills now, but when I
- 34:23met her, she was making way more money than I
- 34:26was. and all I have is my own place and my own
- 34:28stuff. But, and just got out of a divorce and
- 34:33just all this stuff and she's built me here.
- 34:36No, none of this is worth her being upset or
- 34:38not feeling well or us not working out. None
- 34:41of that is worth that. So I can get that before
- 34:44I've had it. This is not new to me. It took me
- 34:47a while to translate the little things from vanilla
- 34:50life to swinger. It took me longer than it should
- 34:53have, but. People think oh, he's so insecure
- 34:56and I am insecure I was because I was like trying
- 35:00to figure out how to translate it now I'm like
- 35:03put me in a salsa club put me in a salsa club
- 35:07And you guys will start writing taking notes
- 35:11right put me in a hip -hop club as the as the
- 35:14MC Then you'll see As far as couples that were
- 35:22there, did you guys meet some interesting, like
- 35:25couples talking about interesting, played with
- 35:28anyone interesting or somebody that's a couple
- 35:31that just like just stood out? Oh, the couple,
- 35:35the husband looked like Joe Biden. You don't
- 35:37have to say names or anything, of course. They
- 35:39were sweet. Well, I said, babe, there's Joe Biden.
- 35:43So we just went over that was that was a good
- 35:46icebreaker. You know, I said hello president
- 35:48Biden You know an older couple but they had been
- 35:53there the whole time they said it was kind of
- 35:55made me a little sad because they said this is
- 35:58the most Friendliest interaction that we had
- 36:00had and that was a Saturday night So I was like,
- 36:06oh that sucks. But also I challenged some of
- 36:10the new couples. It's like You also can't just
- 36:12sit in the corner and expect people to just come
- 36:15up to you. Like, to get biblical on some people,
- 36:19there's a verse in the Bible that says, if you
- 36:21want to have friends, you have to show yourself
- 36:23friendly. And so, you know, sitting in the corner
- 36:26with your arms crossed, you know, with your face
- 36:28all mean, I know Socrates made it a special challenge
- 36:31to go up and talk to some men that were mean
- 36:33-mugging everybody, so he can talk about that.
- 36:37But... Don't know I just I you know as much as
- 36:40I could with my mental brain power being you
- 36:43know on 10 % I just really tried to just go around
- 36:47and and just talk to whoever you know give hugs
- 36:50give smiles I Can't really remember any super
- 36:56meaningful You know conversations with new people
- 37:01Just floating around because I again during the
- 37:05kind of the mingle time my brain was really Not
- 37:08on on all out. So if anyone's listening, please
- 37:11forgive me if I you know I did I did say in the
- 37:14ladies chat if I my face was saying something
- 37:16I said I was just not feeling good and sometimes
- 37:18I get overstimulated and I'm just better one
- 37:20-on -one There's a lady that's been trying to
- 37:22get to know me. I said next splash Let's just
- 37:25go have coffee one of the mornings just you and
- 37:27me away from everybody because it's just, you
- 37:31know, not flowing as well as I want to. And I
- 37:33said, I just think I need one on one time with
- 37:35you. So sometimes that for me in a crowded area,
- 37:39I'm not so good. Even though I do love people,
- 37:43it's better for me. Like I have a whole bunch
- 37:45of friends and we're all, you know, just independent,
- 37:50strong women, but we don't necessarily get together
- 37:52in a group. We just get together a lot on one
- 37:54on one and we have great times together. So sometimes
- 37:58for me, that's that's just what I need versus
- 38:01managing being a part of a crowd. So so you want
- 38:05to talk about one on one time. You want to talk
- 38:08about the mean mugging men, mean mugging men,
- 38:10the M &M's. Yeah, I can. I know. But didn't you
- 38:18you were about to say something? No, I was agreeing
- 38:21with Siren. I was like, I when I attend an event.
- 38:24I much would rather have the one -on -one time
- 38:29myself and the couple, you know, when we just
- 38:32get a chance to sit down somewhere and talk,
- 38:34whether it be breakfast in the morning or just,
- 38:37you know, going up to the room and just sit down
- 38:38and just have a nice conversation away from the
- 38:41group. You know, I don't care about being around
- 38:44the whole crowd scene, as you know, nephew, you
- 38:48know, down where I am when I get there. So I'm
- 38:53with you on that one, Sire. I get a lot out of
- 38:55talking to someone one -on -one. I can really,
- 38:58I can feel you then when I'm talking to you.
- 39:01You know, when I can look at you in the eye,
- 39:03when I can get close to you and really get to
- 39:06know, know you. You know, I can tell then, okay,
- 39:10yeah, they're newcomers, but they really, there's
- 39:12something in them that wants to, that wants and
- 39:14needs to be brought out. So that's how I am too.
- 39:20But now, yeah, tell me about the meme mugging.
- 39:22Mean Muggin Men. Well, yeah, you wanted me to
- 39:25speak on the couples thing. So I just want to
- 39:28say before I talk about Mean Muggin, I had interactions
- 39:34with several couples that I just want to say
- 39:36thank you. They were both, what I noticed is
- 39:42how locked in they were, how encouraging each
- 39:47ones were. how the husbands were there and they
- 39:50were the smiles on their faces because there's
- 39:54three couples I did some very unique things with
- 39:57in the play parties in the play room and the
- 40:01room parties and the way the husbands reacted
- 40:06just really warmed my heart as a stag I love
- 40:09that so but the mean mugging guy so let me get
- 40:12back to the beginning so I never said it like
- 40:15this before and it kind of made sense to me where
- 40:17I'm from. When I first went to Splash and Sire
- 40:22was like, look, we were going to all kind of
- 40:24white gang bangs because where we live, if you're
- 40:26going to go to a gang bang, it's going to be
- 40:28all vanilla, all white people. And it was great.
- 40:31That's no problem. But not vanilla. White folks.
- 40:35which is great. And I've got some good friends.
- 40:38Maybe a couple of Latina guys. Right. Some of
- 40:42them are going to be coming to some of our parties.
- 40:44They're great people. Nothing wrong with that.
- 40:46But she's like, look, and I just said one, two
- 40:49or one day I said, look, you just need to admit
- 40:52that you are, you know, Queen of Spades. Queen
- 40:55of Spades. So long story short, she said, she
- 40:59admitted it. We went out to a bunch of clubs
- 41:01everywhere and she's just like, I need to find
- 41:03a place specifically with black men. So I found
- 41:06Splash and I was thinking, okay, this is for
- 41:09her, right? I've done some stuff. I've done all
- 41:12kinds of crazy stuff. This is for her. And so
- 41:16I found it and I was preparing myself and my
- 41:20mind, I was thinking, I'm gonna go in there with
- 41:23a bunch of Crips and Bloods. Like, I don't know
- 41:26why I was, I just thought it was gonna be some...
- 41:28really, and I don't even put down Crips and Bloods,
- 41:32but I mean, just really disrespectful, uneducated,
- 41:38unsophisticated, don't know how to approach men.
- 41:44And I was horribly wrong, but when I went in
- 41:46there, I went in there mean mugging. I had my
- 41:49arms folded, and I was looking around, ready
- 41:51to fight. And I was blown away at the men's meeting.
- 41:57and then I was later blown away how the man treated
- 42:01Siren and how well they all treated each other
- 42:04and how they lifted each other up. So I said
- 42:06all of that to say I was talking to a fan that
- 42:09came up to us and he was telling us how much
- 42:11he liked the podcast and everything and something
- 42:13about Mean Mugging came up. Oh, I was talking
- 42:17about Uncle Work because he was there. I was
- 42:20talking about Uncle Work and if you listen to
- 42:22the podcast, you guys, I've talked about Uncle
- 42:24Work before, but I can talk about it again. I
- 42:28was talking to my uncle work. He was like, yeah,
- 42:29man, that's what you did the first splash. And
- 42:33I said, what? What? What do you mean? He said,
- 42:37man, when you got in there, dude, you looked
- 42:38like you was ready to fight the first person
- 42:40that came up to you. And I said, the way I describe
- 42:45how I felt, I can't deny that. I never felt that.
- 42:48And Siren never said that. But I said, I probably
- 42:52was. I didn't even notice what you were looking
- 42:55like. Yeah, because your jaw was dropped looking
- 42:57at all the other beautiful black men in there.
- 43:01Yeah, I was so nervous. Nervous -sided. Yeah,
- 43:03so that's all you kept saying is to all these
- 43:04beautiful black men. Never seen so many. So what
- 43:09I decided to do right after he said that was
- 43:12there was about three of them. There was one
- 43:16dude, man, I swear. He was sitting down. His
- 43:19wife is beautiful. I kid you not, he's buff,
- 43:23he's real buff. He is a body builder. You can
- 43:27just tell. He ain't got no neck. Like he's big.
- 43:33And he mean mugged the worst I've ever seen in
- 43:37Splash. Like I mean, this guy was, and I said,
- 43:40I'm going up to him. So I went up to him, sat
- 43:43on the table, and I started talking to both of
- 43:45them. I talked to this dude for five minutes
- 43:48and asked him direct questions. And he answered
- 43:51with shoulder shrugs and looks and eye movements.
- 43:56And his wife would have to answer for him. And
- 43:58I just kept talking to him. And then I just said,
- 44:00hey, you're my challenge. I just said straight
- 44:03up, because he wouldn't crack. And that's when
- 44:05he said, what do you mean? And I said, my boy
- 44:10over here told me when I first started coming,
- 44:11I used to mean mug people. And I told him, yeah,
- 44:14because I just really felt like I was running
- 44:17too slow, because I had bad experiences in the
- 44:20past. So, and you know, this and this and that.
- 44:24And I said, you know what, man, you owe her a
- 44:25mean mugging. And his wife said, yes, thank you.
- 44:31She's like, I'm trying to get some dick and you're
- 44:33scaring everyone away. Yeah, his wife said, yes.
- 44:36And he just looked down like I know. And then
- 44:41I was like, hey man, I came up to you because
- 44:43I don't care. Yeah, well let me say this though.
- 44:48Think about it. Put yourself in his shoes. You're
- 44:53a bodybuilder, so I'm assuming the physique looked
- 44:56like that of the pros that I see all the time
- 45:01when I go to shows, okay? Probably a big dude,
- 45:04muscles everywhere, vascular, veiny, et cetera,
- 45:08et cetera, cut up. and you are sitting at an
- 45:12event where you are going to watch your wife
- 45:15get beat down by these black guys and you're
- 45:20probably feeling some kind of way. You know what
- 45:23I mean? Big time. So I can kind of see maybe
- 45:29a couple going to one or two events and the husband
- 45:31be, you know, he's mean lugging, but underneath
- 45:36he's scared as fuck. He's scared as hell because
- 45:41he does he doesn't he's fit. He's really feeling
- 45:44some kind of way like you know, um Am I enough
- 45:49for her? You know me? She's gonna you know, she's
- 45:52gonna get some good dick. She's gonna open up
- 45:55I'm probably gonna see her in another light and
- 45:58it's fucking with me. So that's what a mean mugging
- 46:01come from You know, so for you to go up to him
- 46:04like that and be able to I'm not gonna say break
- 46:07him but you were able to make him feel comfortable,
- 46:09correct? In some way, shape, or form, you were
- 46:13able to make him feel comfortable. That's good.
- 46:15I got him talking. He was like, hey, why are
- 46:17we here? Eventually, he still didn't talk a lot,
- 46:20but he was like, hey, why are we here but not
- 46:22to do that? He's like, that's why we're here.
- 46:26Bodybuilding guys, unless they're talking to
- 46:28personal trainers or other cats that lift, they
- 46:32really are. They live in their own world, all
- 46:34right? I mean, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm not a
- 46:37bodybuilder or anything like that, but I'm an
- 46:39avid weightlifter who lifts like a bodybuilder.
- 46:42So I know it. I know, I know how they live. I
- 46:45know they live very, very, um, um, very, very
- 46:49extrovert. So, you know, for you to, for you
- 46:52to get them to do that. Good job. Good job, brother.
- 46:55You, uh, both, both of y 'all sound like you
- 46:57had a, um, a very limited, how do I say it? A
- 47:03very uplifting experience this time? At this
- 47:07event? Yeah. Very, very uplifting. I just kept
- 47:10checking in with myself too because, you know,
- 47:13I will not lie and say, you know, every time
- 47:16that he's playing that I've been like 100 % overjoyed,
- 47:21you know, because I get FOMO or jealous or whatever,
- 47:23but this time I really just kept checking in
- 47:25myself and being like, okay, I don't feel well.
- 47:28Am I truly like wanting him to go? Like, how
- 47:32am I feeling about it? And I just felt good that
- 47:35he could go. And then the experiences that I
- 47:39did have were so meaningful. I played with one
- 47:42guy that several ladies were turning up their
- 47:45nose to because he was a little bit... He was
- 47:50a colorful individual. He was a little bit maybe
- 47:55flamboyant. And so some of the women, you know,
- 47:59they're like, that's not my cup of tea. And I
- 48:01thought, Why not? Let me let me just see what's
- 48:04what this guy's all about and it ended up being
- 48:06one of the best play experiences we we laid on
- 48:10the bed fully clothed for 45 minutes and Just
- 48:15talked and I could tell he was kind of nervous
- 48:18to start and then I could tell we both had creative
- 48:21minds and just the way we were speaking just
- 48:23started flowing together and it was just very
- 48:27uplifting and encouraging and positive conversation
- 48:29and Then when we got to the actual play, you
- 48:34know, he was talking a lot about he likes to
- 48:36please. And sometimes when guys say that, I go,
- 48:39OK, yeah, we'll see. In my mind, you know, because
- 48:43I'm like, sometimes they're just talking, you
- 48:45know, but he truly the way he spoke really was
- 48:50the way he played. And it just flowed so well
- 48:53and it was a great time. And I just went back
- 48:56to a couple of those ladies and I said. That
- 48:59may not be everybody's cup of tea, but damn,
- 49:01it was a good cup of tea for me. So I, you know,
- 49:05I really enjoy that. And I love finding those
- 49:08gold nuggets, you know, those guys that are just
- 49:11like, you know, a diamond in the rough, you know,
- 49:16maybe maybe other people don't see it. But when
- 49:20you get them in that place where you can discover
- 49:23what they're really about one on one. then you
- 49:27just really meet some cool people that have some
- 49:29cool things to offer. Well, those are your friends,
- 49:32Mommy, because, trust me, he got it in. Not all
- 49:37the women are like that. I didn't say that. No,
- 49:39I'm just being funny. I'm just being funny. Yeah,
- 49:41yeah, yeah. No, I didn't, because he was bold.
- 49:43He was bold, and he would just be like, you're
- 49:46hot, and I would like some time with you. And
- 49:48he said it in such, like, not a cocky way, like,
- 49:51I'm going to get you. You know, but just like
- 49:54in a very complimentary and just like a very
- 49:57complimented way. Yeah, and a fun way. Like it
- 49:59was it was a very different vibe. Like some of
- 50:02the guys are just super confident. Some kind
- 50:03of come off a little cocky. And then he just
- 50:06said it in such a fun like, hey, I'm here to
- 50:08have a good time. You know, he showed up late
- 50:11for our gangbang. He was invited to that. And,
- 50:15you know, he just he was otherwise occupied.
- 50:18And by the time he got there, we were, you know,
- 50:20we were all done. So he said, well, You guys
- 50:23are hot and beautiful, and I hope that I get
- 50:25some time with you later." And then he just walked
- 50:27away, and then he followed up a couple more times,
- 50:29and it finally worked out. So, you know, I just
- 50:32encourage the ladies, you know, sometimes when
- 50:34someone's just a little bit different than what
- 50:37you're used to, just, you know, give them a try.
- 50:40Give them a try. It's like trying a new food.
- 50:42You know, you just might like it. You might find
- 50:44something there that you weren't expecting, so.
- 50:48That's good. That's good. some good knowledge
- 50:51and wisdom there for the ladies listening. Very
- 50:54good. Anything else that needs to be brought
- 50:57out from this after action report, ladies and
- 51:00gentlemen? Actually, I think we just need to
- 51:03do a part two because we haven't even hit the
- 51:06scratch the surface. There are so many other
- 51:09things that we discovered together that happened
- 51:13that we learned that we wanna share. um, so I
- 51:19think that what we should probably do because
- 51:22um We could probably go another hour and a half.
- 51:26So I we probably just end it there if you want
- 51:29and then do a part two Yeah, or maybe we can
- 51:32wrap it into the podcast that we're gonna do
- 51:34with raven. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's yeah, we
- 51:37could do that That's kind of that way you're
- 51:38looting a little bit. There's more. No, no more.
- 51:42Okay, but either way you can do that one we can
- 51:44you know, there's there's lots of time that we
- 51:46can create more so That'll work, that'll work.
- 51:52Well, then, if there's nothing more to be said,
- 51:56ladies and gentlemen, you've heard it from Siren
- 51:59and Socrates. Sounds like Splash Mocha Houston
- 52:02was an absolute blast and also a very, very uplifting
- 52:07event for them as a couple. I'm so proud of them.
- 52:11Again, ladies and gentlemen, well, thank you
- 52:14for joining us tonight. I am the Sigma male himself,
- 52:17the lone wolf Brian Morgan, along with the family,
- 52:20Siren and Socrates, until we talk again. To all
- 52:24the bulls out there, to my brothers, I bid you
- 52:27good night, and to all my sexy hot wives, you
- 52:30know the deal. Good morning. Until we meet again,
- 52:34y 'all, good night.