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Coyote Vs. Acme : Kids Love Courtroom Thrillers · High n' Dry Podcast

• 0:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I I don't know the uh the reception on that last one.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_03: I have no idea.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_03: Well Yeah.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_01: But I also was a kid when I watched it, so like was it, you know.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_01: Kids do kids have a special kind of goggles.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_03: I I wound up uh coming home last night after uh after watching it, and uh me and Callie we were just we were drunk as hell.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_03: Um and we put that on when we got home.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_03: Um so we just continued the How was it?
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_03: It was not well I mean we'll talk about it.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_03: It was not as good like this one was clearly geared for kids, whereas what we saw yesterday I don't think was.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_03: Agreed.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_03: Well, let's get to it.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_03: So hey everybody, welcome to High and Dry Podcast.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_03: I'm your host, Ryan Barron North.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_03: With me as always, James Croslin, Luke.
• 1:11
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• 1:50
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, well, uh, folks know you could tune into our uh other podcast, Celebrity Deathmatch High and Dry, uh, to figure out how we feel about that now.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_03: But today, we are not gonna be talking about Doritos for the entirety of the program.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_03: We are actually going to be discussing the film Coyote vs.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_03: Acme, and we're gonna do it in a three-part method, guaranteed to get you the best results.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_03: All right, first, we're gonna rate it out of five stars, guaranteed to get you the best rating anywhere, and it's completely indisputable after the fact.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_03: Then we're gonna dive onto the golden path, and then finally we're going to insert ourselves, drugs, or alcohol into the film, and what makes it so special and fun is that we will be doing it under the influence.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_03: So, fellas, what do you bring to the table today?
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, it's the I can't even remember what it is, but it's the same one as last week.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_01: So I think it's uh a cherry, it's cherry something, if I'm not mistaken.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_01: A little cherry something.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_01: I think I actually said cherry.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_01: I think I couldn't remember the second part of it last week either, if I'm not mistaken.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_01: Right, no, yeah, if I remember correctly, yeah.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, okay, cool.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, cherry something still.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, if you want to hear the story of my my experience with cherry, go listen to last week's.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_01: But mine today I'm doing uh double coffee ube liquor iced drink.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_01: Very nice.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_01: You went with the iced option today, eh?
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's too hot for that bullshit.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we we uh just we finally hit September over here, and we got a nice solid week ahead of over 100 degrees, so that's nice.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_03: Nice.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, this planet was fun while it lasted.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_03: I w will be drinking the rest of my uh wild turkey from last night.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_03: Knock that out.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_00: Nice.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_03: Don't know how it's gonna go.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_03: Don't know how it's gonna go.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_03: I uh I drank a lot last night.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_03: Like I didn't get a good sleep because I drank too much last night.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_03: And so now we're it's either gonna be a hair of the dog situation.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna find all my energy again, or I'm just gonna be sick.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_03: So we'll see how it goes.
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_03: So lining them up.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, none of us slept last night.
• 3:59
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• 4:08
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• 4:10
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• 4:12
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• 4:14
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• 4:22
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• 4:26
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• 5:55
  SPEAKER_03: So second toast.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_03: Let's line these guys up.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_03: This one goes out to.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_03: I don't fucking know.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_03: Um actors and voice actors.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_03: My body's like, oh, we're doing this again.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_03: You just don't care about me anymore.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you know, I think even your insides can build calluses, if I'm not mistaken.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_03: I'm just I'm toughening myself up from the inside out.
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_03: I like that.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, like, we're getting to the point where we're not gonna be able to drink the water, so uh need to get used to just alcohol being my source of hydration.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_03: So that's fair.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_03: That's fair.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_03: So third toast.
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  SPEAKER_03: Here goes to our film this week.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_03: Here's to Coyote versus Acme.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_01: Cheers.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yum.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_03: So Coyote vs.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_03: Acme.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_03: Well, Luke, did you want to run us through a uh a recap?
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so Coyote versus Acme is as we know, tail as old as time.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_01: Mr.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_01: Wily Coyote is trying to catch him a roadrunner.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and he unfortunately fails over and over again because the Acme products that he has is failing him.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_01: And he conjures up uh the brilliant plan, and uh it's to uh sue Acme and in doing so eventually be able to catch the uh roadrunner.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_01: So and in the in the film, uh he goes, it's with uh Will Forte.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_01: He's he's a lawyer, he's kind of washed up a little bit.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_01: Not really, you know, he doesn't give a shit.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_01: He's just getting settlement cases for really bullshit things.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_01: It's really cool.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_01: Checked out.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, checked out, but he's like a loony, you know, a cartoon lawyer.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_01: So that's what he does.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_01: But you know, they get a lawyer for cartoons, not a lawyer made of cartoons.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah to be specific, yeah.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_01: And yes, and uh Wiley Cody finds him and wants to, you know, sue Acme, and you know, it ends up becoming a bigger case than uh Will Forte expected, or Kevin Avery, I should say, and him and his niece, which was kind of a weird connection at some point and thrown away.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_01: They uh they uh put together a case against Acme and uh you know end up uh taking it to the to Congress.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_01: So and I would say that's a pretty good summation.
• 8:21
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_01: Why is that a weird why is that a weird uh connection that they threw away?
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_01: I just feel like it wasn't mentioned after.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they they just like briefly yeah.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_01: I think you said you're my niece one more time.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe I'll I'll give you that.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_01: I'll give a maybe on that.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_01: I think they wanted to give a reason as to why someone brilliant was there, and that was how they connected.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was it just like was just a little it didn't bother me enough that I like it uh I was like, damn it, I really wanted more on that niece storyline.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, what the hell?
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but it just was like it felt like it could have just been because like she was hungry to make a difference.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_01: That's her reasoning for being there.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_01: She didn't need to be there because it's a niece, you know what I mean?
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_01: Like maybe she just had a passion for cartoon law.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_01: I guess, yeah.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_03: I'm just saying like I I just want to know.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_03: I want to know where she came from, you know.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_03: I want to know who was adopted.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_03: You know, there's a there's a lot that uh that went unanswered.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_01: And they did that just for that reason.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_01: Just for I I liked that I liked that they made it a family connection because it gave him a reason to be invested in in her choices, which I do agree, actually.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't realize, but I did feel that as well during the movie.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he was like, why didn't you go be a lawyer somewhere that's like you know, where you're gonna make a lot of money and like have prestige and stuff?
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like he does want like the best for her, not to be stuck where he is, kind of thing.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_03: Like, yeah.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_03: No, I felt like all the generations were just they tried to represent all the generations.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_03: You know, they were all there.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_03: Like the old woman was even the silent generation, Tweety was the boomer, Wiley's prime millennial, uh Lawyer's an elder millennial, almost X, who's just fucking trying to keep his head down and die.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_01: And Daffy is Gen Zen Z.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_03: And uh yeah, and then uh Buzz obviously uh representing just general anarchism.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_03: So good now.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_03: Well, uh what would you guys think of it?
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_03: How how uh how would you rate this thing?
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_03: What are we looking at here?
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_03: Who wants to do that?
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_01: I'll kick it off.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_01: So the acting I I thought was really good actually.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_01: This was probably one of my favorite parts of the entire movie.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I felt like the the the their ability to use these animated characters and bring so much uh connection between you know the real life people in in cartoons was genuinely in impressive, and I thought it was mostly entertaining throughout.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_01: I can't say that it was like a perfect, a perfect acting score.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_01: So I you know it's not not a five for me, but I would definitely give an acting a 4.5.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_01: Like Martha Kelly, who played Dottie Jones.
• 11:13
  unknown: Fuck!
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_01: She was so funny in just such a subtle way, and it was like like her character wasn't meant to be bold and take over the screen because it's not about but like man, she delivered that just like monotone, like she's just yeah, I don't know.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_01: I really liked her, and even you know, I've never heard I've I'm not familiar with Tone Bell.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_03: When Louise Guzman showed up as the lawyer, yeah, like what?
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, so I yeah, it was I thought the acting was actually uh really good.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um, cinematography, not perfect.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_01: So there was, I think like some of the characters looked really good on screen, uh, and some of them didn't.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_01: You know, particularly the grandma was one that stood out for me.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know why, but like she just didn't look as crispy, clean.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if it was just that's like maybe they wanted it to look that way.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know, but I just it came across like that, like the main characters were thought of more than some of the side um cartoons.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_01: And it just turned through that like some of them seem to just be a little bit cleaner and drawn better.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_01: So I would give cinematography though a four.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I wonder if the uh I wonder if it was a problem with because we saw the grandma character in like low light.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_01: She was in like inside a house that was like like old an older style house.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_01: So I and so I wonder if it was like just the environment, the low light environment wasn't able to be shaded as well as the high contrast environments outside where we saw most of the cartoons.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_01: That would actually that makes a lot of sense, honestly.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because it is those darker tones that it's in.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if uh no bugs had all those lights on him even outside in the dark.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, it really it could be that that it's just you know hard to get those like what I'm seeing as crazy.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_01: Also, I was like pretty close to the screen for this one viewing, so that may have done it too.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that might have done it as well.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but overall, I did think it was like really cool.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I mean, they did obviously did like the low shots to show perspective of like the shorter cartoons and things like that, the simple stuff, but that you know, is is needed to kind of like get that you know the sense of where they are.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_01: But they um I think everything looked seamless.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_01: Like I said, it yeah, the acting brought through that connection between the cartoons and real life, but I also think the cinematography did too.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_01: And I I enjoyed it, but I don't think it was like top class, so I would probably give it a a four.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_01: Solid so far.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_01: Solid so far.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_01: The score.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_01: I don't uh I don't remember it.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_01: I only remember the Looney Tunes intro from the cassette tape, and that's legitimately the only thing I remember about the score.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_01: Am I am I wrong for that?
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_03: Or is it to be fair, like because we we usually reserve those higher scores on score um for those immediately recognizable sorts of things like Godfather, um like the Jurassic Park, and unless it's the guitar on the uh on the boat, but you know, like Jaws, like those ones that as soon as you hear it, you're like, oh shit, I know what I'm watching.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_03: Harry Potter, yeah, for example.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so I don't know.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_03: Because there were definitely callbacks.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, as soon as you hear it.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_01: There were some callbacks to like Looney Tunes, like old Looney tunes, like what are some that I remember?
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_01: Like the 1812 1812 overture, like that, you know, that we always hear the Looney Tunes doing uh classical music.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so I mean they they did that a couple times.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_01: They also I did the uh I think that piano, that song that he plays on the piano.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_01: I can't the husband right at the end of the movie.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um I can't remember what it what it was, but I'm pretty sure that's from from like the original cartoon as well, Cam was telling me.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_00: I can't remember.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I uh but it wasn't like usually like if a movie doesn't take away from it, I'm I'm like I'm not happy with that.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't really notice, you know, the like the scores, like kind of the classical music that throughout.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um but I'd put so probably right in the middle at a three plot.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_01: Very strong.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_01: I think this is like a very it's a movie that says a lot, it's talking, uh I think it talks about all sorts of different different subjects.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_01: There's the ones that are you know obvious and the ones that I think they try, you know, I think everything's pretty out there and in your face because it is like it's Looney Tunes, you know, it's like it is cartoonish and in your face.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_01: So um, but I'd give the uh let me think.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_01: I'd give the plot a 4.5.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_01: Um like I said, I you know, the the niece thing was just a little bit of a stretch.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_01: I do like the I do realize now that it, you know, his connection to her was a little bit better, but it's still it was just it felt uh still too random to me.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_03: I need more.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_03: I want more I want I want records.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_03: I I want uh like You said 4.5?
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_01: I want a flash.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, 4.5, 4.5.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_01: And then rewatchability's fucking hot.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna rewatch this movie a hundred percent.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_01: Like there's no doubt in my mind.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_01: It's palatable enough to, you know, yeah, probably a four for rewatchability.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_01: I'll watch it multiple times.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if it's gonna be like a yearly watch.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_01: It's not quite that five where I'm like, yep, every year on this watching this, but I do think it's one that when I'm you know want a movie that's like fun, but like, you know, still just a really good good film, um, I'd probably put it throw it on.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_01: So and it's short enough.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: An hour 45 for 43 runtime.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, ain't too bad.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, not bad at all.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_03: Some solid scores on this board.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for you.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that was I I yeah, that sounds exactly right.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_01: How I would like that's uh uh if I just did a gut feel rating, I feel like I'd give it a four.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_03: Alright, well, uh uh James, what'd you what did you think?
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so yeah, I agree with a lot of what Luke said.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_01: I thought the acting in this was really good.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, one thing I really liked about the acting in this is no one did the no one did the put their hands on their hips and go, oh you to any of the characters.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_01: They they uh they were all all the humans were playing it straight.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_01: All the humans were playing it straight.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_01: This is like because this is a normal part of society now.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, it's yeah, it is normal.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_01: Like you're not supposed to treat them like different.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_03: Well, yeah, very, very um fucking uh Roger Rabbit.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_01: Roger Abbott, and that's a good that's a good analogy because this is very much like a Roger Abbott, except you know, Roger Abbott was like a noir.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'll get into this, I'll get into this more in the plot and cinematography.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um we'll talk about about the relation to Roger Abbott.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_01: But I think the acting was really good.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_01: I think that Will Forte uh did a really good job of playing the straight man to Wiley Coyote's chaos, and he did a good job of like grounding the story emotionally.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_01: He he he did the um he did the juxtaposition thing from Good Boy, where you have to give because the character doesn't talk and the character the character doesn't isn't able to tell you the emotions, you have to you have to infer things about Coyote from his interactions with with uh Will Arn Will Forte.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_01: It's like uh his acting feeds the back and forth and it like it gives it gives you something to bounce off of.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_01: And I thought it was really good.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_01: I thought it they did a really good job of conveying emotion.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_01: I thought that all the actors were on their game.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you mentioned before uh what's her name?
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_01: Martha Kelly.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_01: I personally so I I've I'd heard Martha Kelly's, I recognized Martha Kelly immediately because I heard her voice in she's in Common Side Effects, which is an animated show.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_01: She also was Carol in Carol in the End of the World.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_01: Uh uh, I recognized her voice immediately.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_01: I don't particularly like her.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_01: I just did Carol in the End of the World.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't enjoy it.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_01: I thought it was I actually disliked that one.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_01: But uh, but yeah, I thought every I thought she had really good comedic timing, and uh she she definitely played to the script.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_01: And PJ Byrne, it's always good to see that fucker.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_01: We talked about, I mean, he was in End of Oak Street also, as like the guy who got eaten by pterodactyls on the roof, shooting his gun into the air.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_01: He plays, he's always such a good, like sniveling shithead.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_01: He was funny in this too.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_01: Like dude takes the hat off, the hat off, and just think No, I'm scared to touch it.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't want to, yeah, it hurts.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_01: Great sniveling shithead.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_01: And uh and so I'm done, I'm gonna give the acting a four.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_01: I thought everybody got the they got the uh they got the project.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_01: They knew what they were doing.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_01: For cinematography, I I think that the integration of the cartoons into the live action was excellent.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_01: I thought that uh, you know, I think Marvel movies look less have uh have more seams than this movie did.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_01: It's like I when I look at a Marvel movie, I'm like, God, this looks so fake and shitty.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_01: And when when when they did this style for this Line Tunes movie, I was like, damn, it's they did a really good job of just moving these cartoons into this real space.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_03: And it was it was like so it was familiar, but it was also the way they did it, it it was new and fresh.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_03: And there was sort of a period in the beginning where I did have to adjust.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_03: Uh-huh.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but then once I did, though, it's like this this feels really good.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, I really like when they moved like the road and stuff, like that was done a couple.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_01: What?
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_01: It looked so good.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_01: Like it was very good.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_01: And I didn't I didn't have the same feeling about the grandma, I didn't notice any of that.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_01: I was probably sitting a little bit farther back than you.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna give this a 4.5.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_01: I thought the cinematography was just fantastic.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_01: I thought that they did excellent, like I said, juxtaposition, which is a you know, a cinemat, a cinematography technique, which you know, you you set the mood through different factors, and then the camera tells the story as you move between the cuts.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_01: And they did an awesome job with that kind of stuff, you know, for a character that doesn't speak.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: They showed us so much emotion with the tears with these these animated characters.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_01: I thought it was great.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_01: I thought it was excellent.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_01: So 4.5 for the cinematography.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_01: Uh the score, uh, I thought the score was okay.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_01: They had a couple of like I said, the 1812 overture.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I looked it up and I do remember the that I thought the law came up.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and then nobody speak by run the jewels.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_01: I do remember a rap happening at one point.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, it's it's I have it I don't pay attention to score very well.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_01: So looking back at the score list helps me out.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_01: And I do remember it being good.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna give it a 3.5.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_01: Let's see.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_01: The plot.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so this is where I kind of want to yeah, talk about that connection you mentioned about Roger, uh, who framed Roger Rabbit.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_01: So this is very much like Who Framed Roger Rabbit.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_01: Roger Rabbit was you know the same kind of integrated cartoon, although they had to hand paint uh on the film.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_01: Like that's how they did Roger Rabbit, was they had to they they hand painted it on the film, which is fucking wild to think about.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_01: Why didn't they just use AI?
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_01: But but that that plot and those themes and stories were uh film noir, right?
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, that Hoover Roger was film noir.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_01: It's really interesting.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_01: This one is more like a John Grisham movie.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_01: Like the first thing that I thought was like Runaway Jury.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_01: Do you know that one where uh if they go up against the the gun lobby, and it's and uh and the jury has to be like the gun law the gun manufacturers have a lawyer, a fixer who's like fucking with the jury and stuff, and so the people the people on the suing side have to go and and uh and investigate and they talk to people and witnesses and victims.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_01: It's like and and it's it's it's a legal thriller.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_01: That's what this is in reality, is a legal thriller.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_01: And it's that's a very adult concept, just like a film noir is a really adult concept.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_01: But the thing is, kids can enjoy adult adult concepts.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's it's for it's for everyone.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_01: And this is what I like, this is what I talk about when people are like, well, it's a kids' movie, kids' movies don't have to be for everyone.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_01: Actually, you can make a pretty high concept kids movie because kids like shit, you know, kids like stuff.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_03: Well, and I would argue that you should.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_03: I I feel like a big thing that um our current like younger generation is missing out on is because all they do is consume scrollable content directly from them.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_03: They are completely missing any sort of cultural osmosis.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_03: Like they they they only know what was directly shot into their brains by an algorithm, and we don't have now anyone holding essentially like where we've come from.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_01: It's just was that for like 50 years.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_01: They were they would pull in and reference all kinds of pop culture.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_01: Think about how many times you first heard classical music or saw the concept of opera, and all of that for me was Looney Tunes or close to it, like Animaniacs or something.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_01: Like all it was all those properties that taught me about like broader cultural concepts because they because that's the only place that integrated them.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_03: Well, and then they would there'd be jokes and things for the parents that they knew were like watching in the back of the room because it wasn't where the kid now can just watch their shit and the adult can watch their shit, and they don't need to do that anymore.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_03: And so we lose the there's a huge connection that's being lost.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_01: What do you think, Luke, about that?
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I guess maybe we should save that for Golden Path if we've got more thoughts on that.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but yeah, I thought the plot was really good about about uh driving things forward, it was generally well paced.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_01: I thought there were maybe a couple points where it dragged, but for the most part, it kept things moving really well.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if I exactly agree necessarily about the about the mortal rivalry uh between the roadrunner and the coyote being a per being a uh a meaningful purpose or being a like an aspirational purpose.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if I agree with that.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_01: Uh but uh a lot of the movie was really good.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_01: I like that they fought a big corporation.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you know, the film noir was all about like you know, uh, you know, trying to solve a mystery or whatever, and now we've got you know finding a big fighting a big corporation.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_01: It's the it's this it's the story of our times.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_01: Almost like Aaron Brockovich or something.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_01: And so it's true.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_01: It really kind of it is, it's weird.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_01: But I'm gonna go ahead and uh give it a four for that.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_01: I thought the plot was the plot was tight and definitely rewatchable.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I'm gonna rewatch this, so I'm gonna give it a four.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_01: I can't wait until this comes out on streaming.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_01: I'll catch it again.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_03: Fuck yeah.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah, for me, yeah, cinematography on this.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_03: Well, first I was I was thrilled to see that they did their own thing.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_03: Like they they they took um, you know, we're talking Roger Ab and everything like that, but they took the concept and it looked very, very unique.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_03: It looked like it's I was so worried it was gonna be some another fucking um K-pop demon hunter into the spider-verse that that fucking style that's getting shoved down our fucking throats right now.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_03: I literally watched two trailers with that same bullshit style.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_01: It's so angles before I watched it.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_03: It's got angles, baby.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_03: And like the the weird action scenes, like I'm so over it.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_03: So fucking over it.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_03: But uh I was glad to see that we it was something new, it was fresh.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_03: Like, you know, it's very Roger Rabbit, but like it was cool how they did it.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_03: It was it was a lot of fun.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_03: Um I uh I I thought the the the shots were were great, the interactions between you know these obviously non-existent characters and the act the real life actors was was fantastic.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_03: I I felt things.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_03: I I I so a cinematography on this one for its you know for its boldness, for a boldness while simultaneously respecting where it came from.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna give the cinematography on this a 4.5.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_03: Nice score, like you know, well, what did you say for acting?
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, sorry, acting okay, it's okay.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_03: I skipped acting.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_03: So acting, yeah.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_03: I thought acting was a lot of fun.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_03: I I thought everyone uh did a great job, even the stenographer, um, Kristen K.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_03: Berg, even the stenographer.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, was a lot of fun.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_03: Everyone was doing just fantastic.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_03: And I I was really uh like I I feel like Will Forte uh he he gets like a lot of stuff that like no one wants to watch, but he himself is very talented.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_03: So it was cool seeing him do something that was that was good.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_03: Um and he killed it.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_03: And John Cena, I I was really happy to see um playing a like a role that we haven't seen for him, just being Foghorn Laghorn's bitch, and just a big bag southern lawyer.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_01: What was really interesting was that they you know they drew Foghorn Lakehorn like so much bigger than John Cena.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and he did he did like a really good job playing small and scared in front of Foghorn Lakehorn, who was an imposing figure.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_01: They drew they drew him and and voiced him very imposingly.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_03: And like look, John Cena was a wrestler, and he fucking brought it.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_03: I uh like good like good work, John Cena.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_03: I I know you know, obviously, all he cares about is what uh high and dry thinks of him.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_03: But uh so you're listening right now, John, in Seoul, obviously, and the rest of Soulites.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_03: He likes he likes China.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_01: He's he's he's also John Taiwan's its own country, okay.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so come on, he's got a lot of charity work.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_03: Um I'm willing to let go.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_03: I'm willing to let go.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_02: But it's perfect.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, not everyone's yeah, yeah.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_03: Pub Buddy's nerfe.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_03: And um I'm gonna give uh the acting on this one a four.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_03: If if Wiley was played by a human being in a costume who was able to deliver the way that I felt watching Wiley, I I'd jump it, but you know, it is what it is.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_03: Let's see, score.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_03: You know, you have the always, you know, you you hear acme and you know what you're about to watch.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_03: You know, Bugs Bunny's about to be involved.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_03: And it was weird when Bugs did show up.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, hell yeah, Bugs is here.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_03: Fuck yeah.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_03: Like, wait, when did I become really?
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I was like, shit, yeah, let's go.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_03: And so that was fun.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_01: But uh kind of it happened for me when he first was on the phone.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, oh shit, it's bugs.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_01: Like, wait, what?
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_01: When did this happen?
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_01: When did I begin?
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_01: I am not the same.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_01: I I I've never, never, ever said that I'm a bug fan.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_01: Like, that is really that is really interesting.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_01: I did not have that reaction.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_01: I I I I laughed because throughout the movie, they every time they heard Bugs Bunny, like the most famous cartoon in the world's voice, nobody knew who he was.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_01: They're like, who could that be?
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_01: I thought that was funny.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but that was very your guys' reaction's very interesting.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I was we'll have to talk more about that.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because especially for me, I was always like I I I love Acme.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_03: Uh not acme well, I I love uh you know Looney Tunes and all that, but I I was more of a Muppets guy, but I did feel a very like sense of like, hell yeah, welcome back, guys.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_03: Like like I did when the Muppets did that thing with Sabrina Carpenter.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, fuck yeah, let's let's go.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_03: And uh but uh score, yeah.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna give it a four.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_03: Uh it was it was good, it's recognizable.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_03: Obviously, you got the Warner Brothers, not well, not Warner Brothers, but the the Looney Tunes themes.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_03: It was well done.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_03: Um plot here.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, I know uh the the internet it's like it's that hope slop, but uh I'm all for hope slop, dude.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_03: I I I loved uh the new Superman.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_03: I had a lot of fun with He Man.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_03: I and this it felt the same.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_03: Like, god damn it.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_03: Fucking sucks so goddamn bad.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_03: And and just getting to watch Looney Tunes take it on, I'm like, hell yeah, let's do it.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_03: Let's fucking do it.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_03: And the plot was it was not, you know, it was not geared directly towards children.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_03: Like it was uh it was a it was a complex storyline with um a lot going on, a great message, and uh you know what kids love?
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_01: Courtroom thrillers.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_01: Well, every child I've ever met.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, obviously.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_03: Um they just can't stop fucking swiping on law and order reels.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_03: It's ridiculous.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_03: But uh yeah, the plot I'm gonna give a four.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_03: Uh rewatchability.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna watch this thing when it comes out again.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_03: I'm excited to see it.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_03: I I'm I'm excited to show the people.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_01: I'll have to see it again so I can watch it right at a normal point of view.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, and I I'd like to I'm definitely gonna give it a watch when I'm not you know fucking hammered.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_03: That's gonna be cool too.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_03: And so, yeah, rewatchability I will also give.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna give it a 4.5.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_03: Damn.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, 4.5.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_00: Calculate bit.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_00: Hold on.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_01: Is that your computer?
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_01: It sounds very loud.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_01: That's my computer.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's okay.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_01: There we go.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_01: Calculator app needed to reset.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_01: For some reason, the kit the calculator website I'm using is is is is having a very hard time today.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_01: People are people are rushing to it to get averages.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_03: So well, they refuse to call uh Lake Ontario Lake America, so people are just fucking rushing.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, the average is a four.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I expected.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_01: We had a four out of five.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_03: Good on you.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_03: Good on you.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's where it sits.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_01: It's a good movie.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_01: It's not like revolutionary.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's a good movie, though.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's a really good movie.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_03: So, well, let's line them up.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_03: Final toast.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_03: Here is two a really good movie out of four out of five.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_03: Cheers.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_03: Cheers.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_03: So, deeper meanings of Coyote versus Acme.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I know uh we're we're talking about um you know, the the sort of generational loss of culture that we're getting ready to slam into.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I I I do see uh, you know, in in the post-apocalyptic hellscape that we're also sprinting towards uh, you know, the uh the guys our age will be like sort of like blind, you know, because we drank the water.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_03: Wizened men who will tell you about when we were able to experience culture because we, you know, watched things with our parents.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_03: We the the things that were given to us weren't just strictly for us.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_01: There was a rabbit singing in a horned helmet, and a man wanted to fuck him.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_01: He was gonna button fuck him.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_03: Well, then you get murdered for being woke.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_03: It's just uh and yeah, but like that would so then, but like so we got we got that.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, just watching this thing, obviously, it had a lot of messages about um just the way corporations fucking rule our universe.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's it's kind of also I mean, it's telling a story of like that these corporations, like these trials aren't fair.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_01: Like they lost that trial, right?
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_01: So and it's like showing that like no matter what evidence is brought forward sometimes, no matter like, like sometimes that if like there's money being paid in pockets, whatever the case is, it's uh you know, it's not fair when you're fighting fighting something with unlimited money.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_01: And it's it's a very like they it was a slap you in the face kind of statement to me.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_01: Like they were very much saying, like, yeah, like this is this is what's like actually happening behind closed doors almost.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_01: So kind of kind of giving us a peek into the curtain.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, because yeah, I mean it's not justice.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, sorry, it's it's just it's not justice when you're up against someone who has more resources than you, they just get to wear you down, they get to uh just they get to just keep going until you can't go anymore.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_03: Um and you either bankrupt yourself or let it go.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_03: Um and that that's what our justice system essentially has become.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_01: But I also oh sorry.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, go ahead.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_01: No, please.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm I was gonna move on.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_01: You go ahead.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_01: The only other thing I wanted to say, and then but I do want to say that they're also saying, like, there, you know, there's people out there fighting the good fight.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_01: Because I think there are still good good people out there, and I think that's you know, I think that is who you know, that's who Kevin Avery is symbolizing.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_01: Kind of like there are people fighting the good fight, and there's still always, you know, like you said, it's the hope slot.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_03: Um it's a Gen X are being reminded about life by uh you know a millennial who still has some fucking fire in him.
• 38:21
  unknown: Yeah.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_03: And but like, I mean, Gen X hasn't done fucking anything since Fight Club, and that was it.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_01: I think I think specifically when we're talking about like fighting the good fight against then and like and like these companies going to court, and especially sitting in front of Congress, like I think there's a very specific situation that an analogy to our world that this is supposed to bring up.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_01: I know Acme is like a product company that actually puts like physical products into the world, but all of this and and like the process of like testing on the users, like sending faulty products out to users in order to gather information on them and and essentially data, making the users the product and and creating data for this thing so they can use it and turn it into another product to give to other people.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_01: And and and of course, those the people in that company sitting in front of Congress.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_01: That's tech today.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_01: That's Mark Zuckerberg sitting in front of Congress, and Elon Musk, and Jeff Bezos about how you know their platforms operate and how they're affecting people, and how they're collecting data on people, and using and selling that data, and how that data is being used to make whole make a whole bunch of people really rich, and not and though, and the people who are having their data farm not being not totally understanding that what you know what is happening to them and why they're purposely getting faulty products and being tested on, you know, when like the Instagram feeds that that make little girls want to kill themselves, you know, like that, like it's proven that Instagram has like a negative effect on young girls' body image and makes them depressed, and suicide rates were up because of it.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_01: Like that's proven.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_01: And and it's directly analogous to tech companies.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and so I feel like that was the real target of of all of this data collection type uh and harming the users type of thing.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_00: Oh wow.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 40:29
  unknown: Yeah.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I would I mean that's an a sick connection.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like it really, I mean, I've and it's like the layers of the corporation too, and like what, you know, like you said, making money on every single step of the way, you know, just taking, you know.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I would have liked them to go a step further and like, hey, look, this is obviously not for the kids.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_03: Like, this isn't who you're marketing towards.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_03: I would have liked to have seen pictures of Foghorn Leghorn with Jeffrey Epstein.
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_01: Dad, who's that?
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_01: Your worst nightmare.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_03: Like, let's just let's just let's just actually the boogeyman.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_03: Let's let's run let's run this thing home.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_03: I I want to see Foghorn Leghorn uh having fun with Jeffrey Epstein in a video that they brought up in court.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_03: Uh like let's just fucking do this.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_03: And then like, but uh like it's so disheartening.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_03: And it's like I feel like because I I I left the theater feeling a little better, a little happier, but and it's just so disheartening because at the end of the day, I'm like, cool, I feel a little better now, but when when is this gonna stop?
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_03: Like when does this end?
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_01: I think the message is that it doesn't.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_01: You know, uh the the parable, I think, of the movie is that uh the coyote never gives up.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_01: The coyote uh Will Forte tells the coyote that he'll never catch the roadrunner, but that's the and and the the coyote reacts poorly to that.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, it's a mean thing to say, but the truth is the coyote will never catch the roadrunner.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_01: Like that is that's it the fight, the the goal is never achieved when you're like when you're trying to uh self-actualize.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_01: Like it like coyote's like self at his his reason for reason, if to quote Santana, is uh is to catch the coyote.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_01: Uh uh and uh I mean to catch the roadrunner, and like it's it's never achieved.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_01: You never can reach your idealized self, actually.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_01: I learned this recently.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_01: Like our idealized versions of ourselves are never achievable because we all it's always one step outside of what we are.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_01: Once we're actualized, we still want more, we still try to achieve more.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_01: We can never be idealized, and we can never have an idealized work because we'll always want to keep trying, we'll always want to keep correcting things.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so the goal is to never give up, you know, is the is the is the message is keep trying.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 43:17
  unknown: Yeah.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_01: One step at a time.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, we're seeing like, I don't know if that was just like a win that's tossed to us from on high, but then at the same time, I'm not 100% sure.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_03: Like the the current situation with flock cameras being ripped down essentially everywhere.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_03: But then the CEO of Flock just saying, like, hey, look, guys, you you gotta compromise.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_03: And like, wait, why?
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_01: Why do we have to why don't you have to compromise, motherfucker?
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_01: Why it's always us that has to compromise.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, why is it always us compromising?
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_03: And then it's just wild with this uh this tread on me harder, daddy that's like essentially going on.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_03: I got I I I don't get it.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_03: I don't get it.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_01: And small government, big corp, it's it's fine because it's not the government, it's a corporation who then sells it that information to the government.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_01: So it's fine.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's fine.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_01: It's all fine.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_03: It's all fine.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_01: You're gonna tell.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_01: Me, you don't trust a business.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_01: The business is gonna the business wants what's best for the consumer because it's because that consumer is what it relies on to be a business.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_01: So it wants what's best for us, right?
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_01: It's not like it's it's not like there are eight billion consumers or whatever, and once it runs out of one group, it can move to the next until it drains all of us like like fucking leech or something.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_03: We do indeed live in the perfect system.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_03: Well, that's silly.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_03: So, guys, third part of this.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_03: How in the wild world of acme does this film change with the introduction of you?
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_03: Luke, you want to kick this one off?
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_01: I don't, I don't I don't want to kick this one off.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_01: I'll be honest with you.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_01: Give me a second.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_03: Well, uh well, James, how about you?
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_03: Or you want me to do it?
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, sure.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_01: I can do it.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_01: I can do it.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_01: So let's say I'm introduced to this world.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, who would I be?
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_01: I would be uh you're laughing already.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_01: How do you know what I'm gonna say is not reasonable?
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_01: I might have something very reasonable to say.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, maybe, maybe this is this might be the first time.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna be one of the goons for Acme.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna be when Tweety Bird is is said I'm gonna be one of the goons.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_01: And and I'm gonna have.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_01: Uh three Doritos.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and and uh and as I did that, the the can of predator spray would get caught and it would explode the car on all and and it would end pretty early because all these predators are getting maced.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_01: The car crash, we all die, and then and then everything is fine.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_01: I actually solved the problems.
• 46:52
  unknown: Nice.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_01: Nice, okay.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_01: All right, sheer incompetence.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_01: Very Looney Tune style.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, very loony tune style.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_03: Very nice.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_03: Very nice.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_01: Well, oh Luke, did you wanna Yeah, I have it now.
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_01: I would like to um if I would if I would like to be Tweety Bird, okay.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_01: And I guess you die with me, brother.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_01: But before we die, when John Cena tries to like shit on me, us and the you I don't remember that scene where you shit on Tweety Bird.
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_01: Shit on Tweety Bird, but you know, just was given it given Tweety Bird a talking to you.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um all the goons just kill John Cena and and and as well as PJ Byrne.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_01: Kill them both, and and the the loy they have to you know, acme as uh a whole team of lawyers, so they just bring in some new guys.
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_01: So the rest of the movie doesn't change that much, but we slaughter the John Cena and and PJ Byrne.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_03: Solid.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_03: Solid, very solid.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, for me, it was we took out most people now.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_01: That's left is is uh foghorn leghorn.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean for me, um like you know, I'm I'm tempted to just join with Bugs Bunny and do the anarch thing.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_03: And just but I would try and steer him towards political violence.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_03: Like I feel like if he would finally just let go and start killing pop politicians, um Bugs Bunny would be very effective.
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_03: Sure.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_03: And so I'd I'd be tempted to to steer Bugs Bunny that way.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_03: But but I think what would happen is is we'd make it to the courtroom.
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_03: You know, John Cena is saying his piece, and at that point the the courtroom doors would whip open, and uh Alter Bridge would start playing.
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_03: And me and Edge, the R-rated superstar, are gonna rush in with our money in the bank, and we are gonna fucking pin John Cena in the courtroom, and uh, we're gonna take the title belt, and uh we're just gonna fucking uh we're gonna go that way, and we're gonna turn this now into the WWE, and we're gonna bring it's a multiverse situation where there's a it's a multiverse situation.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_03: Uh with with my money in the bank, I'm I'm going to uh I'm gonna take down Cena in that courtroom.
• 49:25
  SPEAKER_03: And uh this was WWE.
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_03: Uh this was uh this was uh super slamp and you didn't even fucking know it.
• 49:33
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, this rat is gonna thump you out, brother.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_01: I got a WrestleMania shirt on this evening.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_03: We're just gonna devolve into like this was WrestleMania the whole time.
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_02: What's up, Doc?
• 49:49
  SPEAKER_03: And and we're gonna we're gonna slap some one, two, threes on these crooked politicians.
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_03: And uh and that's what we're gonna do.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_03: Uh is that including Mr.
• 49:59
  SPEAKER_01: Fudd himself?
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, without a doubt.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_03: Senator Fudd.
• 50:02
  SPEAKER_03: He's going through a table.
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_03: He's going through a table.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_03: Um chairs are gonna be thrown.
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_03: It's gonna be a fantastic time.
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_03: And uh I'm just gonna let John Cena know that he can never escape his uh his wrestling past.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_01: That's what happens when you train hard on the bicycle.
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_03: I'm just gonna, yeah, you you can't escape.
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_03: You you uh you can't escape.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_03: You know, the Rocks movie just failed.
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_03: Um Moana, the live action just failed.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_03: And so he's gonna have to make an appearance because um, you know, the audience is turning against him now.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_01: And uh we're we're just he's willing to just make anything.
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_01: He really is.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_03: You could give him any fucking I'm actually thinking of uh pitching him a script, and uh as long as you have the money, that's what it is.
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_01: He'll be in anything if you've got the money.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_01: No, and I feel like I want 30 million dollars and I'll be in any movie.
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, no, and he's actually gonna be on the next episode of High and Dry.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_03: So uh uh folks at home, be looking out for that.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks for sponsoring it, Seoul.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Soul Korea has decided to pay Dwayne the Roth Johnson 30 million, and uh he will be on the next episode of High and Dry.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_03: So be looking out for that.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_03: We'll be talking about the live action Moana.
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_01: This will really help those North Korean refugees become as reassembled, re-acclimated, yeah, re-acclimated to the real world.
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_03: He's got this dude crawling through the DMZ.
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_03: He's got three bullets in him, and they like drag him back.
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_03: Like, okay, dude, dude, dude.
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_03: Put this on.
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_03: Put this on the bottom.
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_01: What can I say except you're welcome?
• 51:51
  SPEAKER_03: And there you have it, folks.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_03: Uh thank you all for at home for listening to us.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_03: Um uh be on the lookout for the next one.
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_03: I'm your host, Ryan Barron North.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_03: With me as always, James Grosslin, Luke.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Luke, obviously, a rising star.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_01: A shooting star, maybe.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_01: A shooting star.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_03: That was it.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_03: There you go.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_03: So that's all, folks.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_03: Four out of five.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_03: Later.