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Episode 63 Part II feat. The Brushback Crew - Slow SP Market, MLB Trade Market, Rapid Fire Questions · Sports Avenue Twisted Podcast

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  So let me ask you guys this. We're talking about the free
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  agent, the starting pitcher market.
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  So let's talk about the slow moving market.
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  That's that's that it is right now.
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  Would you say a lot of it was because of that first deal that
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  the Blue Jays handed out or? Yeah.
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  Yeah. Are they right now?
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  You had to be like, especially if it happened kind of like you
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  said earlier, Cubs was a done deal probably for like 185,
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  probably 190 ish somewhere in there and then the Blue Jays
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  just did that and everybody had to be like all right.
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  So all the other starting pictures probably all of a
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  sudden was like yo ha ha, market just went up price.
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  That was immediately what all the meeting with everybody's
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  agent just says like, oh, he just reset.
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  They just reset the whole thing. Everybody, you know, Meryl Kelly
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  just got 2 for 40. Like that.
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  Really. Everyone's like, there's no way
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  that just happened. Thank you Jesus like.
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  Oh my God, bro, that's so funny. Man that is so funny.
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  Tell me. I mean for real think funny.
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  It's crazy thinking about. Yeah, that that I mean, he,
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  they, I think they might have shot the shot, the shot the gun
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  a little too fast on that, on that particular signing, you
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  know what I'm saying? But but you know, back to the
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  Blue Jays, like we were saying, just just the whole fact of like
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  trying to trying to find your internal needs, you know what
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  I'm saying? What who can we keep internally
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  first? You know what I'm saying?
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  And I think that that has to do with a lot of shape up too.
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  Yeah, I know. I know that there's teams that
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  are trying to check in on the Japanese picture there, my guy,
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  like, and he's also represented by Boris and I think he gets
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  posted on January 2nd and I think teams are waiting up upon
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  him. And I know certain teams have
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  their budgets and I'm. I think they're just waiting to
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  see if the market's going to go down.
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  What I heard is that Baltimore is trying to get Suarez, but
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  they're too far apart because, you know, Boris, man, Boris,
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  Boris likes to get the dollar, right?
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  So the top dollar as much as they possibly can, right?
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  So it's like, oh, you know, we think that this person is worth
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  that value. Boris is like, or any of the
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  dangers like we we deserve more. We saw what Dylan C Scott and
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  now it's everything stagnant all of a sudden.
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  And another thing is that if you look at the trade market, teams
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  are not willing to overpay for starting pitching.
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  I mean, you saw Sonny Gray, they had to Saint Louis had to pay
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  some of the money, but they had to give up their 5th best
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  prospect in the in the system. Just like what's a Joanna
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  Oviedo? Like Boston made two trades
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  because they don't want to give up earlier paying totally,
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  right? Because they feel like that's
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  part of their plans, right? Like for example, I don't know
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  if you've seen that rumor that that Shane Boz and Papio Peppio
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  were checked in on with Arizona as part of the deal for Barteo.
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  I was like, if you do that deal, I don't know if it makes sense
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  because you need starting pitching out there and teams are
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  not willing to pay the prices, but even in the trade market.
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  Premium. There's definitely a premium,
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  yeah. Look at what what the Marlins
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  are asking for Sandy. They're asking for so much.
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  Like he wasn't consistent enough last year, even though he had a
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  good six weeks, I would say, but.
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  You end up in New York, they're asking.
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  You end up. You end up in the Mets.
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  You end up in the Mets. You think you think he's a met?
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  OK. I think, I think they're, they,
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  they're not going to be, they're not going to be afraid to do the
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  envision. I mean, in division trades,
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  because the Marlins are just like the Pirates.
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  They really don't, can they? Can they compete right now?
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  They got, they got pitcher, they got, they got him and the, the
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  other young, the other young guy, Edward.
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  Yeah. And yeah.
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  Now you get rid of Sandy because I've been trying to, they've
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  been trying to get rid of Sandy for like Sandy been in the trade
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  blocks for like what, four years already?
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  He's like, all right, bro, when you what are you going to do?
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  Y'all going to let him go or you won?
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  That site young, Yeah. Yeah, you're going to let him go
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  or you're not going to like. And I don't see them building
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  around. They're not building around
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  anybody. They're they're so analytically
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  like strong to where they're just going to buy another
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  computer. Like that's what I that's what
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  it looks like. You know, they're just, they're
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  not, they're not going to spend much money on, on free agents.
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  They're really not going to make, you know, they're just,
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  they're just going to go with what they got.
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  And I, I respect them for that. But at the same time, it's like,
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  all right, if you want to, do you want to compete or you're
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  not? If you if you're going to
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  compete, compete, if you're not going to do it, don't do it.
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  You just need to let these guys go, go play the game to where
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  you know they can make some money.
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  But at the same time, they could be on the championship team.
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  Like, you know, they want to compete eventually.
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  Because if you're on a team that can compete, you know, the
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  earnings are going to come. But nobody wants to, nobody
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  wants to get beat up every day. Like, you know, I'm saying
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  they're going to have to, they're going to have to do
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  something with Sandy. I mean, I think, I think, I
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  think they're going to, I think they're going to trade them
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  because the, the Mets need pitching.
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  You already see like, you know, the NL ES for some reason, they
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  do like doing in division trades out of out of any, any division.
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  It will be, it will be them. I, I think they were, they'll
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  let, they'll let Sandy go some point at some point this
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  offseason, you know, not, not at 100%, but I think he, he'll be,
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  he'll be gone. I mean, you mean, I mean you
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  think about the Marlins. All the teams normally at the
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  bottom of other divisions do the same kind of thing.
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  Yep, yeah. Like the White Sox, the White
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  Sox love, love, love them to death.
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  Wish I would have got that bullpen coaching job but
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  whatever. Like they signed Anthony K like
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  that's one of their only moves they've made this all season.
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  It's not Anthony K to a two year 12 and $1.00 deal.
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  That was a good piece of business for him to go over to
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  KBO and come back to make that. Contract the MPB.
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  Yeah. Or yeah.
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  Yeah. It was in Japan.
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  Yeah, right. Yeah.
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  That was a great piece of work, though.
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  Like to get paid that much money to, you know.
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  Like I would say that was playing when I was playing over
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  there. I mean, doubt that it still
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  would have mattered, but. Right.
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  Yeah, I saw, I saw that contract.
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  I'm like, oh, good for Anthony, man.
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  Yeah, Just like, I mean, Cody, same thing.
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  Like, it's crazy, right? Right.
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  You see these that these guys are getting and teams are paying
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  them. Teams are doing these things,
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  but the teams that are at the bottom of the divisions aren't
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  paying the same as the team as the top because, I mean, that's
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  just the moves that they're making.
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  I mean, because that's like, really like the only move that
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  the White Sox have made this all season, right?
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  It's one of the only ones. Yeah.
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  So. Good, Good for him.
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  We need a salary floor. I'm going to say go force his
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  team to spend money, dude. That's the only thing you're
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  going to have to do is just spend some money, dude.
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  You spend money. Good players, fans will come.
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  That's it. My idea, you're going to install
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  good baseball. What do you do?
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  I need to. I need to buy.
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  There probably a lot of people was probably not going to like
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  listen to me on that one, but I don't care about the salary cap,
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  like the salary, the salary cap could be like Infinity.
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  I don't really give a damn about that.
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  But like it's the it's the salary floor because you're
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  you're you're incentivizing people to not to not compete.
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  And this is the reason why, you know, we have wins and losses
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  column in our record because if you win more than you get
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  rewarded. If you don't win, you shouldn't
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  get a dime, you know, but we, we, we incentivize that.
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  That's not good. You know, that's that's bad.
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  So another thing. Also, right, No, but like you
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  know, when you look at when you look at the small market teams
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  that they're not doing enough and they're trying to trade
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  guys. If you look at like, for
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  example, you like we talked about Marlins, if they kept
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  their rotation, I mean, why can't they just spend money and
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  go get guys or give us some of their prospects?
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  And look, I know the small market teams like to keep their
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  prospects and that's always been their style of things, right?
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  Like let me mention a team. They literally they should have
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  won the Wolves. If they would have kept
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  everybody together, they would have won the Wolves series five
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  years in a row for five. 100 years like.
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  By what they had like that's just their DNA.
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  Like they just messed up. You know, you know, The thing is
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  that I was watching the ALCS with the Jays and Mariners and
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  there was a there was a screenshot of four guys that
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  played for the Guardians, Shane Bieber, Josh Naylor, Andres
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  Jimenez and Ernie Clement. If they kept all four of those
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  guys, I think Cleveland would have been in a much better,
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  better spot than what where they at because they keep letting go
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  of guys all the time because they don't want to keep them.
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  And then you don't want to spend and retain these guys.
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  And that's always going to be their wish issue.
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  If they don't spend and they just keep being conservative or
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  even below that. Like don't even even just try to
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  be penny pinching, right? They say, let me, let me ask you
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  guys this. The the twins like like there
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  was rumors about them trading Buxton, Brian and Lopez and they
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  they said they're not going to they're not going to trade them.
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  Like what are your thoughts about that?
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  They can't trade, but. You can't can't do it that that
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  fan base will go downhill after that.
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  Well, well, not even that. Boston's got a new trade clause,
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  so he's only he, he said. He's only accepting trades.
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  I think one team so and that team's not going to trade, huh?
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  Is that Atlanta or is that a different team?
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  Yeah, that's Atlanta, so and Atlanta's not giving up Michael
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  Harris anytime soon. Removing Michael Harris so.
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  No, Why would you? He ain't going.
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  To move out of center field, Bucks, he ain't going to move
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  out. That's.
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  What I'm saying so you're so he's not going nowhere then Joe
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  and Pablo, if you trade one of them, then your team's not.
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  They said and Jeremy's old said that they're trying to put the
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  best team out there, which is a bold face lie, which seems like
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  it is. I'm not going to say it is, but
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  like you wouldn't have got rid of the guys they got rid of.
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  I feel like some of those guys forced their way out last year.
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  But I feel like that's because of a disconnect between the
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  front office and the players over there.
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  Just for a simple fact that, you know, they like they were
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  selling and they're like, yo, like we have a chance to win
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  right now. And I don't think everybody felt
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  on the same page for some reason.
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  But if they're going to try to go younger and when then they
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  need to make a move and he needs to make a move that's going to
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  actually have them in a position to win because they said they're
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  only looking at the mid tier first base market.
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  Like you can't, you can't say that.
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  And then and still hope in the team and in the fandom that's in
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  the twins to be like, we're going to win.
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  You know what I mean? That doesn't help saying we're
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  looking in the mid tier. No, Go get somebody that's going
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  to change that team for the better.
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  There's nobody in that farm system that's going to do it
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  right now. You need to either make a huge
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  trade for somebody or you need to go get a free agent.
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  Probably can go figure that out somewhere.
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  And I just don't think that they're going to do it, which
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  they're just going to be sucking the same situation.
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  There's going to be trying to beat the Guardians all over
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  here, Guardians of the world. Yeah, the Royals are.
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  They just made the extension on one of their young guys too.
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  So I mean, they're got they got yeah, the, the team that the
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  division's not regressing that that the division's not
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  regressing. And you can't regress if you
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  expect to compete like like you have, you have to like continue
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  to always try to make at least one or two moves to try to move
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  forward. If you want to just be 500
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  nowadays, Do you like like like Detroit, Detroit.
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  They end up getting Kinley like but.
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  Isn't it funny? I was going to say before you
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  finish that isn't it funny how like the twins are the only
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  team? Like none of that stuff's
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  happening too though. Yeah, that's crazy.
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  Nobody, no free agents are really signing there.
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  They're not signing. They're not extending any of
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  their young guys either. Like they're, it's crazy to
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  think about, like everybody's in their division is doing all that
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  stuff, but they're the only one that's really not.
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  Yeah, that's not, that's not really productive.
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  You know, you, you, I know you just got a new manager, You, you
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  making some moves, you know, as far as the coaching staff and
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  everything like that. But, you know, I mean, there's
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  players available, you know, and Minnesota's not a bad place to
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  play. It's just cold as hell, you know
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  what I'm saying? It's just, yeah, I I just feel
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  like you, you're not going to, you're not going to sit there
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  and just get your ass beat every, every, not saying that
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  they're going to get their ass beat like that, but I mean, you,
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  you got to make some moves, dude.
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  You got to make some move. Got to.
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  You don't, you know, The thing is also they fired Rocco Bell
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  Deli and they hired Derek Shelton.
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  That to me is that to me was a bit of a shock there too,
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  because I don't even think Bodeli was a issue of that team,
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  but. You know.
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  He trade 10. No, I don't think so.
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  And Ted, they traded 10 players at the trade deadline.
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  And when you trade a guy like Correa that you know, you know,
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  you had a hard time signing free agents and he was willing to
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  stay there. I didn't look, he went through
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  the Giants, the Mets, the whole thing, but he did come back to
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  the Twins and and you decide to trade him after two years.
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  Like it's like we want to go there now.
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  Like if you look at the track record and you know, the other
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  question is like, why would they trade Louis Barlin with five
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  years of control? Like they traded their whole
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  bullpen at the trade deadline. And I still want to understand
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  what they're doing with that. Like, and I get they're trying
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  to build the next young team, but are you going to build
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  around with those guys? Because Byron's going to come up
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  to the front office and be like, when are we winning?
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  Like, am I going to do this forever?
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  Like it's going to be another Mike Trout type of scenario,
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  right? Joe Ryan has two years left.
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  He's not good. He's not getting any cheaper for
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  Pablo Lopez. I mean, he's under contract, but
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  he also has two years. Like what is your window?
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  Like what? When are you, are you winning?
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  Are you going to stay mid? Like like you have to have a
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  direction. You just can't be like, you
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  know, we keep our stars and just let it ride, right?
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  You got to do something right. Yeah, I mean, it's not, it's not
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  fair to you drafted Buxton and and you know, they went to the
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  playoffs a couple times, right? So and they had some they they
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  they ain't like they didn't have like a bunch of like a a whole
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  lot of like losing years, like they were over 500.
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  You know, they they seen the playoffs.
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  But I just think that, you know, you you can't, you can't, you
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  have to, you have to build. You can't keep using this excuse
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  like over rebuilding, rebuilding like Jay, you're a part of it.
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  I was a part of it. Like that whole rebuilding stage
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  is kind of like, is it a, is it an excuse to to not to not pay
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  guys? Is the excuse to just kind of be
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  mediocre or like, what is it like?
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  Because at one point we, we know that the the Yankees, they did
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  it before too, but they still found their way in the playoffs.
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  Like remember that whole little stage when when judge was coming
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  up? They're like, oh, we're going to
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  rebuild, But you know, they still they still went to the
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  playoffs, like, you know what I'm saying?
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  They still with over 500, like, you know, it's still, it's still
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  a it's still a like a idea of like, all right, we still need
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  to win baseball games, you know what I'm saying?
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  So in order way to have that, you got to have some type of
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  veteran presence. That's why I really like the
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  whole thing when, you know, they getting rid of they get rid of
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  veteran guys, they get rid of guys that you know, that do have
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  some type of track record of being in the playoffs, Guys who
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  who's who's been around, you know what I'm saying?
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  Who's been in the I've been in a fight, you know what I'm saying?
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  And and I feel like the the less and less you have that obviously
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  you're not going to have the results you want because there's
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  less experience in that whole locker room.
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  You know, there's less experience.
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  Like look at the look at the nationals, the nationals now,
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  dude, they got, they got a manager that's like
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  significantly a lot younger than me and Jay, they're not saying
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  that he's probably not going to like do anything, but I don't
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  know. But we know from like looking at
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  the piece of paper, we're like, damn, this is going to be look
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  like, you know what I'm saying? Because he's going to have to
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  learn the players. They they're going to have to
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  like compete in that division, you know, and it's tough, man.
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  I mean, I, I just think that if you're going to, if you're going
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  to like the twins, if you're going to go after it, like if
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  you're going to try to keep up with the whole thing, like you
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  got the Rose, you got the tigers, you got all these other
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  teams, man. Like you're going to have to,
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  you're going to have to like at least make one splash, like make
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  like at least one addition Like it, it could just be like 1 mid
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  edition just to love. But you have to, you have to try
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  like, you know. Absolutely.
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  I'm not. I just this is what frustrates
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  me. And we talked about the Pirates,
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  what they are like the twins, like they had something really
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  good going on the last couple years and they just felt like
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  they had to trade guys, right? So I just, I just don't
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  understand why they had to do stuff like that.
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  But yeah, like, overall, you got to look at this way.
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  Winning, winning cures everything, right?
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  That's, that's the whole point about baseball.
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  Like, you win. I mean, fans will show up and
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  you, you would, you would love to add like, like a team like
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  Arizona, for example, they went to the World Series two years in
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  a row. They went to the World Series.
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  They went to the World Series. Are you talking about jumping
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  mad? Yeah, yeah, that's the thing.
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  Like and they're planning like they they got Corbin Birds, but
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  they traded Johano Suarez, they traded Josh Naylor.
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  Like they kept trading. They had to let go of Christian
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  Walker. Like you don't Jess who?
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  Are you going to build a team around?
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  You going to build a team around Kerbel Carl Corbett?
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  Corbett Carroll. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know.
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  And, and they they do have Jordan Lawler, but he can't even
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  stay healthy. That's another problem too,
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  right? So I just don't understand their
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  philosophies, right. So yeah, we'll just have to see
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  where where things go. But let me let me ask you all
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  this. The next question here is like,
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  what is the surprise trade you guys saw so far?
• 18:59
  I know you guys got the list and stuff.
• 19:02
  I got AI, got a couple surprise trades, but what are your
• 19:04
  thoughts about surprise trades? Let me let me go back and look
• 19:11
  again. I see one.
• 19:18
  I mean the Simeon. The Simeon doesn't scare.
• 19:20
  LA Simeon is kind of like. None that really surprised me as
• 19:25
  much as I thought it was. I think that the one that's
• 19:31
  going to surprise me the most is probably when Mason Miller gets
• 19:34
  traded. You think he gets traded, huh?
• 19:37
  He. Was traded.
• 19:41
  Mason Miller isn't talking. About it too much.
• 19:43
  Like it's crazy. Like I feel like they're going
• 19:47
  to get because they've been talking about the Padres, like
• 19:49
  everybody's doing that, like they don't been interested in
• 19:52
  the Padres like relievers and stuff.
• 19:55
  And I think he's going to, he's obviously going to draw the most
• 19:57
  interest and it's going to be interesting to see like if we
• 20:00
  end up going right. That sucks, man, because I did
• 20:07
  hear that too. Like they're going to have to
• 20:08
  like you're going, they're going to have to like get rid of
• 20:13
  everybody, dude. Like I, I don't know if that's
• 20:14
  really true about the whole Tatis thing.
• 20:16
  I doubt that. But like, they're gonna have to
• 20:18
  unload. Yeah, I the thing the the trick,
• 20:27
  the if that trade happens that with Mason Miller, goodness
• 20:31
  gracious. Like it would you know, you
• 20:34
  know, AG Preller, right? And he likes it.
• 20:39
  He likes it. He likes to think outside the
• 20:41
  box. He always does moves that you
• 20:43
  would never expect to happen. Like when when the Padres
• 20:47
  acquired Mason Miller, that shocked, well, they gave up the
• 20:49
  third best prospect of baseball. And he's going to be part of
• 20:53
  that athletic score for so many years to come.
• 20:55
  And he's going to be AJ Preler. Did I know, right.
• 20:59
  And that thing is that the Padres keep doing that.
• 21:03
  Yeah. I mean, they did this with Juan
• 21:04
  Soto when they traded James Woods, TJ Abrams, Mackenzie
• 21:08
  Gore, like so on and so forth. They keep doing this.
• 21:11
  But if that happens. Trade them a year later.
• 21:14
  That would be insane man. It would just.
• 21:16
  Not even a year, like 4. Months.
• 21:19
  Yeah, not even a year if it's just offseason.
• 21:22
  Yeah, not even a year. You're right.
• 21:23
  Like just like four months. Yeah.
• 21:26
  Crazy. I think that's like, I mean, I
• 21:31
  mean, what why would the only reason that they would do that
• 21:33
  is they say, oh, we're not in a winning situation anymore.
• 21:37
  We're going to trade them just to recoup what we lost.
• 21:40
  It's just like, yeah, there's there's got team.
• 21:44
  I mean, I'm not saying they're not, I'm just but but but what
• 21:47
  would be their reasoning for trading Mason Miller other than
• 21:52
  like if they looked at themselves and said, Oh, well,
• 21:54
  we're not good enough to compete anymore, so why?
• 21:56
  Not why would they trade of the the the dodgers?
• 22:00
  That's the only thing. Like, that's it, right?
• 22:02
  Right. Dude, I just whip everybody ass,
• 22:04
  you know? Why?
• 22:05
  But why did they make the trade in the 1st place then?
• 22:09
  You know what I'm trying to say? Like just to me, it doesn't make
• 22:13
  sense to just cut your losses after four months and say, OK,
• 22:18
  well, was it a good trade? Was it a bad trade?
• 22:21
  Like, I mean, I don't know. It's to me, it's it's, it's
• 22:27
  weird. It's weird, but I think it
• 22:31
  could. Happen.
• 22:32
  That's just, I'm not saying, I'm not saying you're wrong.
• 22:34
  I think it could happen too. It just, it just on the outside
• 22:38
  looking in, everybody's going to be, it's going to be shocking,
• 22:42
  like you said. Yeah.
• 22:45
  Like, is this a weird feeling like that?
• 22:48
  Like he's only He's really the main piece of the bullpen that
• 22:52
  anybody could even want from the Padres, right?
• 22:55
  Yeah. Absolutely.
• 22:57
  You know, trade him to a team like return to a team like the
• 22:59
  freaking the Royals or something like.
• 23:03
  I can see that. Or he goes.
• 23:07
  He goes to the Brewers. Mason Miller to the Brewers.
• 23:12
  Holy, I love with that. I don't.
• 23:14
  Like that. I like that bro.
• 23:16
  I like that trade. That'll be another trade.
• 23:18
  What about the Mets? What about the Mets, man?
• 23:22
  We were talking about them earlier.
• 23:25
  I like I don't think the Padres are too much of A win now to get
• 23:29
  the prospects from the Mets needed to do that.
• 23:33
  I think the Brewers have enough MLB talent like on that team
• 23:37
  that are young enough that can, you know, piece into sure piece
• 23:43
  into Padres right now to help them win that they probably
• 23:47
  possibly get back from masonry make up for.
• 23:55
  I can see him being gone too, but I mean for for for the
• 23:58
  Padres to kind of dissemble everything that they got going
• 24:02
  just after that. Like I I don't think we talk
• 24:06
  about how much that manager left like that.
• 24:10
  Like how do you leave like that? Like, you know, I'm saying
• 24:12
  there's something else internal to where the boats not floating.
• 24:18
  Now you got the bench coach, Brian Espito, you know, you
• 24:20
  know, Brian, he moved from out of the dugout to the front
• 24:23
  office. So it's like, all right, bro,
• 24:26
  what's really going on over there?
• 24:29
  You know, because you got a talented team, or maybe I'm
• 24:35
  looking into it too much. You got a very, very talented
• 24:37
  team. Yeah, you come up short, you
• 24:39
  know, you lose against the the Cubs, but the Cubs is a good
• 24:43
  team too. It's the playoffs you got.
• 24:45
  You got, you know, 8 good teams in there.
• 24:47
  So what do you, what do you like?
• 24:49
  You can't just break everything down after that.
• 24:51
  But I think there's something internal to where maybe they're
• 24:56
  not on the same page or, or whatever the case might be,
• 25:00
  maybe their goals are different. Because all I hear about the
• 25:03
  Padres, is that OK? Well, I know the owner.
• 25:07
  Did they did they end up selling the team?
• 25:10
  They were talking about it, but I but that was Bob Mango that
• 25:13
  mentioned. But yeah, but nothing really has
• 25:16
  come to fruition to that. We'll see about that.
• 25:18
  But I think overall, you just got it.
• 25:20
  I mean, I, I feel like there's, like you guys said, maybe that
• 25:24
  the Padres will do another blockbuster deal.
• 25:29
  It seems that it's coming towards that way because there's
• 25:31
  so much smoking. You guys probably know about
• 25:33
  this. Do you think Freddie gets
• 25:36
  traded? Jay, you're you're buddies with
• 25:38
  Freddie. Freddie, do you think he get he
• 25:41
  gets traded or you think he he starts the season with
• 25:43
  Milwaukee? He starts the season, at least
• 25:46
  with Milwaukee. OK, that's.
• 25:50
  A good pick up that would be a good pick up for any team, to be
• 25:52
  honest. That's that's.
• 25:54
  That's for sure, but he's got to go somewhere in, he's got to be
• 25:58
  a number one again somewhere and if he goes somewhere big, he's
• 26:02
  got to be like a #2 and be in a spot to go win.
• 26:05
  So I don't see him going anywhere, especially with them
• 26:08
  winning the way they have been lately.
• 26:12
  I feel like there's just nowhere for him to really go, I think.
• 26:16
  And plus his value is going to be higher at the All Star break
• 26:18
  if he's pitching the way he has been.
• 26:20
  Man, it is right now too. Might as well play.
• 26:25
  I mean, with with his stature though, like, and all these
• 26:27
  moves are being made right now, bro, like him being a #2 right
• 26:30
  now, like the only place I can probably see him going to is
• 26:33
  probably like the diamond bats. But he ain't going to be a
• 26:37
  number one. I mean, he ain't going to be a
• 26:39
  number one and #2 with, you know, possibly the Mets or I'm
• 26:44
  just thinking about teams that contend.
• 26:49
  The Tigers know, right? If they still got scuba, he'll
• 26:52
  be a number 34. Well, no.
• 27:01
  Where were you? Because Jack is over there too,
• 27:03
  right Flaherty? Well, but they're not.
• 27:11
  I mean, they're going to like bring him in and move Jack out.
• 27:15
  You move Jack to three Jack and just go down.
• 27:18
  No, no. There you go.
• 27:22
  I can see, I can see that move right there.
• 27:23
  You know, that's trying to compete or, or or Cleveland,
• 27:29
  Yeah, you go to. Cleveland for sure.
• 27:31
  Yeah, you go to Cleveland and be a dog over there just because
• 27:34
  and they're competing, you know, I mean, it's going to have to be
• 27:38
  a team to where they're, they're going to contend, you know, and
• 27:41
  they're going to get something back.
• 27:43
  Like, you know, Milwaukee because, yeah, they, they got,
• 27:45
  they got some good young guys and you know, we're in the fall
• 27:47
  league this year. They got some good players over
• 27:49
  there too. Just coming up.
• 27:50
  I mean, that one lefty, that one hitter, I, I don't know his name
• 27:55
  who outfielder, but they're going to, they're going to
• 27:58
  contend in that division. But you got also look at on the
• 28:02
  other side, like what, 100 miles South or whatever.
• 28:06
  I don't know how far Chicago is, but Chicago's a good team too.
• 28:10
  But they're not going to do the end division thing, you know
• 28:12
  what I'm saying? They're going to have, they're
• 28:15
  going to, if they're going to let Freddie go, better get
• 28:19
  something back in return because they're going to be giving up
• 28:22
  buns if they don't, if they don't get anything back in
• 28:24
  return, you know? No, I I mean Milwaukee,
• 28:30
  Milwaukee, Milwaukee's going to compete it seems like next year,
• 28:35
  but I don't know that to me, the Shock trade is trading Collins
• 28:39
  and and Mirrors for Serpa. And I saw that Milwaukee jump GM
• 28:47
  said that they're going to make Zerpa into a starting pitcher,
• 28:50
  which is interesting to say the least, because if you look at
• 28:53
  their rotation, so they got the Freddie, Freddie Peralta, they
• 28:56
  got the Woodruffs, they got Aaron Ashby's right?
• 29:00
  So I mean, Mesorowski is probably going to be in the
• 29:03
  rotation too. So they got a few guys that
• 29:05
  could start in the rotation, right.
• 29:06
  So I mean, it's going to be interesting to see what
• 29:08
  Milwaukee does. But yeah, go go ahead, Rob, you
• 29:11
  got the next cue. So let me let me ask you guys
• 29:14
  this question that we're talking about big trades on the horizon
• 29:17
  with Mason Miller and whatnot. What a Bob.
• 29:22
  There's been some rumors lately about possible Brendan Donovan
• 29:27
  and we all know about the Catal Marte rumors.
• 29:31
  So what potential big trades do you guys see on the horizon that
• 29:36
  are upcoming possibly? I think Marte, what'd you,
• 29:46
  what'd you say, Jay? So that was my one Mason Miller.
• 29:50
  Yeah, Mason Miller, I mean, I guess I got a couple.
• 29:55
  I mean, Marte is going to be one that's that's going to be.
• 30:01
  For sure they've been. Talking, they've been talking
• 30:02
  about it too much, you know what I'm saying?
• 30:04
  He, he, he brings a lot of value.
• 30:07
  He'll bring a lot of value to a team.
• 30:11
  I don't, I don't know, I don't know, I could say that, but I
• 30:17
  can also go I, I would say school, but I don't think so
• 30:23
  because they they they, they end up signing Kinley like, you
• 30:25
  know, I'm saying. So it's like, OK, well, they're
• 30:27
  going to try this year unless they're going to get like a, a
• 30:32
  minor league team back. Like I don't see him going
• 30:34
  anywhere. But I think the only one I can,
• 30:37
  I can pinpoint right now to where I think for sure is going
• 30:40
  to happen is Marte. I just hope he goes to a
• 30:48
  contender. He'll he'll, he'll get shipped
• 30:49
  back East though, for sure. I think he'll go somewhere.
• 30:51
  I think, well, I think the Marte thing, there's one important
• 30:55
  contingency to that. As of 10 days after the opening
• 30:58
  day, he gets the provision of the 10 five clause.
• 31:01
  So I think they want to trade him before that kicks in.
• 31:04
  It seems like a there's some issues between both parties,
• 31:07
  right? So I think that they Marte is
• 31:10
  definitely going to get traded. I just wonder, you know, Jay,
• 31:13
  you mentioned about Mason Miller.
• 31:14
  There was also a name that's been out there that could get
• 31:16
  traded and I think he has an opt out.
• 31:18
  I think after next year is Nick Pavetto.
• 31:21
  That's another name that's been thrown out there too.
• 31:23
  And I want to see how how deep is AJ Preler and the Padres are
• 31:31
  going to go this offseason because it seems like there's
• 31:33
  something lurking for some blockbuster deal, something
• 31:36
  historic this offseason, knowing them that not only they trade
• 31:40
  Mason Miller, they go get some, you know, young assets and
• 31:43
  players that could be close to MLB ready, right?
• 31:46
  Knowing what he does right. No, 100%.
• 31:51
  That's the goal. I believe that's what you have
• 31:56
  to do if you get hold of Mason, you have to go through tonight.
• 31:58
  That's like either right on the cusp would be majorly great
• 32:02
  where they're going to break opening day with you or at least
• 32:05
  somebody that's majorly ready, they can provide something for
• 32:08
  you. Plus like at least two of those
• 32:11
  guys, plus a huge prospectus. Yeah, well, I, I hear you on
• 32:20
  that one. I did.
• 32:21
  That's a good one too. I don't think they're going to
• 32:23
  get rid of the big, big guys, though.
• 32:25
  I don't think they're going to get rid of, they can't get rid
• 32:27
  of Machado, they can't get rid of Tatis.
• 32:28
  You know, I'm saying do I see that they get rid of Borgars?
• 32:32
  I don't think so either. They're going to have to keep
• 32:33
  those guys. It's so tradable, man.
• 32:37
  That's a contractor. Stuff.
• 32:39
  If they want to make a big deal, though, they're going to have to
• 32:41
  get one. They're going to have to get rid
• 32:42
  of one of the three. Who do you get rid of?
• 32:45
  I think Cronenworth is another guy.
• 32:47
  His name has been out there too and trade rumors and they're
• 32:50
  trying to get they're trying to get they're trying to get one of
• 32:54
  one of the big country. I don't know.
• 32:56
  Tatis has a full full no trade clause.
• 32:58
  So 2028, right? So I don't see that.
• 33:02
  But you never know about that, right, Knowing what the Padres
• 33:05
  are. So it's hard to say about that.
• 33:08
  I mean, go ahead. What about Jose Barrios and and
• 33:17
  and the center fielder there? Fire show.
• 33:22
  I see Jose more than, I mean I see Jose more than Barstow.
• 33:28
  Wouldn't be surprised if Jose goes.
• 33:31
  That wouldn't be a surprise to me.
• 33:34
  They've been trying to do that for the past couple years and
• 33:36
  then especially with them getting these.
• 33:39
  Right. Might as well stab.
• 33:44
  Right. Yeah, I could see that.
• 33:46
  I could see that. I mean there's I think Barrios
• 33:49
  probably gets traded like probably some point in Jan.
• 33:52
  I would take if I had to take a guess, maybe January because
• 33:55
  like a lot of teams are still trying to figure out what this
• 33:57
  free agents and the other top, top trade targets on certain
• 34:01
  guys who's going to get traded and stuff, right.
• 34:04
  So I think it boils down to how how a player or player is like
• 34:11
  or, or teams are going to make deals and who they're going to
• 34:14
  go get and how much, how much money they're going to spend.
• 34:18
  Or because barriers probably won't cost too much compared to
• 34:21
  like a San Diego Contra or like like a certain player you want
• 34:26
  to go trade for, right? Like who has years of control,
• 34:29
  right? So I mean, that's something
• 34:31
  probably it's going to go down the road during the offseason,
• 34:34
  right? So let's get to the rapid fire
• 34:37
  questions, man. I mean, there's an interesting
• 34:40
  topics that we could talk about and we could ask each other.
• 34:43
  It's like I'll ask the first question here is which team?
• 34:49
  Well, we mentioned is probably the Padres.
• 34:51
  But besides the Padres, let's just say any team you could
• 34:53
  mention besides the Padres, which team that hasn't done made
• 34:58
  any moves you think could make a splash this offseason?
• 35:01
  It's too good, starting with Jay.
• 35:05
  On the top of my head, Pirates just just just because it's the
• 35:15
  team that there's no way they can, but also there's a way they
• 35:19
  can. If they do, then that team gets
• 35:24
  dramatically better really quick.
• 35:26
  So I'm hoping that they do make a splashy move, but that's
• 35:31
  that's the one right now. I'm a stick with, I'm a stick
• 35:37
  with the Reds. I think I'm a stick.
• 35:39
  I think you're just kind of like, hey, we want Swarmer, but
• 35:45
  I mean Swarmer. But they're probably going to
• 35:46
  like, are we going to get like 10 other guys over a year?
• 35:50
  But I got the Reds for that one. I'm going to say, I'm going to
• 35:57
  say that the rays. I'm going to say the Rays.
• 36:02
  I'm I'm putting them as a sleeper for Kyle Tucker.
• 36:08
  Wow. I just, I just think they look
• 36:09
  at the rest of the division and they see, you know, the Yankees,
• 36:13
  they'll do something eventually. But then you look at, you know,
• 36:16
  Toronto and and and Baltimore and then even Boston, you know,
• 36:22
  Boston's done some stuff too. So yeah, I'm going to say the
• 36:26
  race. I'll say I'll say the Marlins
• 36:32
  and here's why I think the way they played baseball this past
• 36:36
  year. They were they were in the wild
• 36:38
  card hunt till the very ended. If they can do a trade with one
• 36:44
  of the star, they could upgrade, but they could go add to and
• 36:46
  they could compete too. And they're a sneaky team.
• 36:50
  They got guys that they don't talk about like the Kyle stores
• 36:53
  has become a player for them or like who's the shortstop they
• 36:57
  they got from the raids? You know what I'm talking about.
• 36:59
  But like they got a couple guys in their team and I feel like
• 37:03
  they could they could they could do something in the offseason,
• 37:07
  right? So those are my things.
• 37:10
  So next question, small market team that can make a big signing
• 37:15
  this offseason? Work a team that can make a big
• 37:25
  signing, say the AIDS, just because they're moving to Vegas
• 37:36
  so they can make a sign for somebody that's going to be more
• 37:39
  like that era. So that's.
• 37:42
  My yeah, I'll say the same. I'll say the same.
• 37:49
  What do you guys already mentioned this already, but but
• 37:52
  Pittsburgh it was was it UJ that's in Pittsburgh, I think
• 37:57
  yeah, Pittsburgh. I think Pittsburgh.
• 37:59
  You know, they already made that pseudo fake offer to Schwarber
• 38:03
  or whatever you want to call it. So I'll say Pittsburgh.
• 38:08
  Yeah, I agree. I think Pittsburgh might be the
• 38:11
  team because like you said, if they're if they're in on
• 38:14
  Polanco, they're in on shore. I mean, they're bound to sign
• 38:17
  someone eventually. And they said that they have
• 38:19
  money to spend so I could see, I could see the Pirates do so.
• 38:24
  And you can't do disservice to schemes, man.
• 38:27
  And if Conor Griffin is coming up in different, you just can't,
• 38:31
  man. Like I'll, I'll, I'll emphasize
• 38:34
  it until they it's proven wrong. But like, if you're if they
• 38:37
  think that Conor Griffin, the number one prospect in baseball,
• 38:40
  is the real deal, then I mean, you have to start doing
• 38:43
  something at some point. And you traded could Brian Hayes
• 38:47
  in the in within the division like to clear money, right?
• 38:50
  So you got to use that money to spend on someone, right?
• 38:53
  So that that to me is. More than one guy to win a
• 38:56
  baseball game, dude. So he's more than one guy to win
• 38:59
  a baseball game. Yeah.
• 39:03
  So the next question is the Twins.
• 39:05
  Will the Twins trade any of their big guys?
• 39:07
  Let's just say by the trade deadline if no.
• 39:12
  By the trade deadline, yes, they'll get rid of Joe or Pablo.
• 39:15
  One of the two or possibly both by the trade deadline.
• 39:19
  I think at least one by the trade deadline, depending on why
• 39:24
  it'll be like 1A position player or something like that.
• 39:28
  But one of them, we're going by the trade deadline if they're
• 39:31
  not in the hunt. Yeah, I, I think they're also
• 39:36
  going to trade deadline. I don't think they're going to
• 39:39
  do anything now just because the the division is so active right
• 39:42
  now, just like what is all we got right now.
• 39:44
  So I got it. We got to just stay here.
• 39:46
  They going to have to add if they want to make.
• 39:48
  I think I think they're going to add a little bit before, you
• 39:52
  know, like a via trade, minor league trade prospect or
• 39:54
  whatever. But I don't think they're going
• 39:56
  to go after like big guys. I think they're just going to
• 40:01
  they're just going to play out and see how the beginning of the
• 40:03
  year works and is Shelton can get these guys to, you know,
• 40:06
  contend, you know, in the first half of the year, if not on low.
• 40:12
  I'm going to say, I'm going to say yes.
• 40:14
  I'm going to say it's going to be Pablo Lopez or or Joe Ryan,
• 40:19
  one of those guys. They'll get moved by the, you
• 40:22
  said by trade deadline, Rocky. Yes, by the trade deadline.
• 40:26
  Yeah, Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I agree.
• 40:31
  I think Joe Ryan gets traded. I don't know about Lopez.
• 40:34
  I mean, he's, he's, he's on a cheap deal, but I think, but
• 40:38
  it's possible they could trade both, but you got to get the
• 40:40
  right package for the right deal, right?
• 40:43
  So, and, and The thing is that with that team, they're already
• 40:48
  trying to get some crop of guys in in return and they they might
• 40:51
  get to right now players and who are close to the major.
• 40:54
  So I could I could see that. So next question is how many
• 41:00
  more blockbuster deals will we see during the offseason?
• 41:09
  I think we're done for the offseason, honestly.
• 41:12
  I don't think we'll see any huge ones this for the rest of the
• 41:15
  offseason. I think we won't see until
• 41:16
  probably spring training or right or right when the seasons
• 41:19
  start. Yeah, I don't.
• 41:23
  Yeah, I don't think we'll see anything crazy.
• 41:24
  I think, I think it'll be trade deadline type, like I said with
• 41:28
  Marty. But it's not going to, it's not
• 41:31
  going to be crazy. I don't think so.
• 41:34
  I got to go, guys, so. All right, Jay.
• 41:36
  We appreciate you, man. Thanks, Jay.
• 41:39
  Appreciate it, man. You're talking about trades,
• 41:42
  right? Yeah, like not, not signings
• 41:46
  trades. Like blockbuster deals?
• 41:48
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 41:50
  I don't. I don't I'm, I'm with Jay and
• 41:53
  Trey, but I don't see anything happening.
• 41:56
  I'm. Looking at it right now, the
• 41:57
  only one I can really think of is Sandy.
• 41:59
  Like that's, I mean the school. The Tigers are not going to let
• 42:03
  go of school because they sign they're adding so they're adding
• 42:06
  the AD Kinley on the back end. So they're going to go for it.
• 42:11
  You know what I'm saying? That's what I would I I would do
• 42:13
  if I was him. Marte, I think Marte well, like
• 42:17
  CJ Ingrams and and and Mackenzie Gore.
• 42:19
  Why why would you even like try to trade those guys because your
• 42:23
  team is so young. You need somebody with a little
• 42:25
  bit of season on there. Aronatto, like they signed
• 42:30
  Dustin May over there with, with the Cardinals.
• 42:34
  You got to keep Aeronauto, You got to have some.
• 42:35
  If you you're going to have to keep one or two, you're going to
• 42:38
  either get rid of Aeronauto or you're going to get rid of
• 42:39
  Contreras. So you might as well just keep
• 42:46
  both of them. Or if you're going to get rid
• 42:48
  of, if you're going to get rid of 1, I mean, I will if you look
• 42:53
  at that finances and stuff, you get rid of Aeronauto, you know,
• 42:57
  I don't really see anything crazy.
• 43:00
  You say a couple. I say Brendan Donovan gets
• 43:02
  traded. I think Saint Louis is trying to
• 43:04
  unload couple guys in that in that trade like Brendan Donovan.
• 43:08
  I saw that the Mariners and Giants are front runners, so I
• 43:13
  could see him going to Seattle. It depends what happened to
• 43:15
  Marte because I heard that they were checking out Marte.
• 43:18
  But the prices are too crazy right now for for these players,
• 43:22
  man. Like, I think they're waiting
• 43:23
  for these prices to lower down and then see where, where things
• 43:26
  go, right? So I think that's what it boats
• 43:29
  down to. But we got a few more here.
• 43:34
  Surprise teams in the AL and the NL that could compete IN2020261
• 43:40
  from each league. Prize Surprise Orioles.
• 43:45
  I got the Orioles for the AL. Yeah, what about the NL?
• 43:52
  I mean, but does it count what they did last year too?
• 43:55
  Yeah, kind of to a certain extent, yeah.
• 43:58
  OK, can I say the Reds? Yeah, sure.
• 44:03
  OK, definitely say the Reds just because just because they they
• 44:06
  they had a taste of that, you know, I'm saying they had a
• 44:08
  taste of blood. So I think they're I think they
• 44:10
  will they will give, you know, the Brewers a run for their
• 44:14
  money and the Cubs are run for their money in that division.
• 44:17
  The Cubs are going to be the Cubs are going to be good, but
• 44:19
  the Cubs lost Tuck. So, I mean, I don't think the
• 44:24
  Cubs are going to sign Tuck back.
• 44:26
  You know, it's a lot. That's a big commitment, but.
• 44:30
  Right. I don't see, I don't see Tuck
• 44:33
  going back to the Cubs just because I think that's the way
• 44:38
  out of their price range. That's that's a, that's a
• 44:42
  healthy, that's a healthy asking price.
• 44:44
  So he's he's, he's going to, he's going to get, but you never
• 44:49
  know because Chicago is a very, very big city.
• 44:52
  So I don't know, I just, I just think the the Reds, I see the
• 44:59
  Reds competing, you know, I think they're going to make,
• 45:04
  they're going to have to make one move.
• 45:05
  They're going to have to make one move.
• 45:07
  You know, this Cody's still out there.
• 45:09
  There's some guys still out there.
• 45:10
  They're willing to give 150 million to Schwarber if they're
• 45:15
  going to spend at least 75 this offseason.
• 45:17
  I mean, that's what I think. I think they're going to have to
• 45:20
  to like you, you just you just don't go and just be like, hey,
• 45:23
  I will we'll pay for him, but you know, we're not going to do
• 45:26
  nothing else. OK, That that make that, that
• 45:29
  fan fest is going to be question marks to that place, You know
• 45:32
  what I'm saying? So they're going to have to do
• 45:33
  something to be like, well, we, we lost out on him.
• 45:36
  So we got these guys right here, you know, so I, I think at the
• 45:40
  end they got Francona at the him good team, good manager, own
• 45:44
  manager, very long track record. And you know, again, they just
• 45:50
  they lost. They got the ass.
• 45:50
  I mean they lost against the the the Dodgers.
• 45:53
  The Dodgers won it. Like the Dodgers knocked people
• 45:55
  down all the time. I got, I got the Reds competing
• 46:00
  in, in, out this year. Like competing, competing.
• 46:05
  Rob, what do you like the? Reds.
• 46:08
  I like the Reds. I like that answer.
• 46:10
  That's for all the reasons Trayvon said.
• 46:12
  And, and I'm going to say, I'm going to say the Royals in the
• 46:17
  air. Oh, yeah, that's, you know,
• 46:19
  that's a good one. That's a great one.
• 46:20
  I was in. I was in my head too, and that
• 46:23
  was in my head too. So yeah, that's a great one,
• 46:27
  Rob. That's a good.
• 46:28
  One, yeah. Last year, you know, everybody
• 46:31
  thought they would take that, you know, step right, And, you
• 46:34
  know, they didn't. But yeah, I think I like that
• 46:38
  one, yeah. Yeah, they just.
• 46:41
  Extended. They just extended that one kid.
• 46:43
  This is extended that one kid over.
• 46:45
  There with Garcia. Garcia, Michael, Michael Garcia.
• 46:50
  That's Ronald's cousin, man. Yeah, I'll, I'll say man, that's
• 46:57
  tough to say, man, I, man, I'm going to say the Marlins in the
• 47:03
  NLII think they're close, man, I I really do.
• 47:07
  I just think that, you know, them doing things, playing
• 47:12
  spoiler, eliminating the Mets in the offseason, in the playoffs,
• 47:15
  man, that's a big deal to me, man.
• 47:18
  So I think I think that comes down to how how they want to
• 47:24
  spend, if they what they, if they trade Sandy, what they get
• 47:28
  in return, like things like that.
• 47:30
  I could see it. I could really see that
• 47:32
  happening. I really do.
• 47:35
  Do you think, do you think that you know the Marlins or like the
• 47:38
  Padres and the Dodgers with the Mets?
• 47:42
  Like, you know what I'm saying? Like you, they're like, I don't
• 47:44
  care about we whatever we do, we just got to beat the Mets.
• 47:46
  I don't care What would we do? We just got to beat the Dodgers.
• 47:48
  Like, wait, hold on, right, There's 29 other teams out here.
• 47:52
  So that's. What I'm saying?
• 47:53
  Now let me ask you this. Like that last that last game
• 47:58
  when they officially eliminated the Mets, was it adrenaline?
• 48:04
  Was it just like, I don't, we're just going to spoil, we're just
• 48:08
  going to be the spoilers today, Like, you know what I'm saying?
• 48:10
  Was it just like a? New.
• 48:11
  A new win or was it like, I don't know, it's just a regular
• 48:16
  baseball game? Because I, I felt like they knew
• 48:18
  what was up they were up against and they just wanted to be
• 48:23
  spoiler. Like they just want to spoil it
• 48:25
  for for them, you know what I'm saying?
• 48:26
  So is it like a thing with the Dodgers and the Padres, with the
• 48:31
  Marlins and the Mets? Like what, what, what type of
• 48:34
  what type of idea is it? Because I don't, I don't want
• 48:37
  it. That's what that's what it seems
• 48:40
  to me like, you know, but the the season's not all the way.
• 48:44
  The season goes from April all the way to, well, the end of
• 48:47
  March all the way to September. Like, you know what I'm saying?
• 48:50
  They're in division, they're going to play each other like 20
• 48:52
  times, you know what I'm saying? That last game they played good.
• 48:55
  They played really, really hard, you know what I'm saying?
• 48:57
  They they, they, they got, they gave it to the Mets.
• 48:59
  But you know, you think about it at the same time too.
• 49:02
  It's like, what about 140 games that you guys played with the
• 49:07
  other teams in the, in the, in the MLB, You know what I'm
• 49:10
  saying? So is it just because it's, it's
• 49:14
  a in division and I hate the Mets?
• 49:16
  Or is it just like, OK, we're going to give you a glimpse of
• 49:19
  what we did, what we're going to do next year?
• 49:22
  I think it's a bit of. Because it I think they need to
• 49:25
  add on then. Yeah, I haven't seen the they
• 49:28
  need to add on if they're if they're going to if they're
• 49:31
  going to compete in that division with the Braves.
• 49:34
  We know the Braves historically they're 500 team.
• 49:37
  They're always they're always got, they got a good foundation
• 49:40
  that you know what, you're going to get out the Braves, they're
• 49:42
  going to do the chop. They're going to chop your ass,
• 49:47
  you know what I'm saying? They're going to do fun.
• 49:51
  They're going to do all that crazy stuff.
• 49:53
  You got the Mets, you know what I'm saying?
• 49:55
  And you got Philly, but you have you have more teams to worry
• 49:59
  about than just the Mets. It's not just one sided.
• 50:03
  Like just because like you have to show me.
• 50:05
  And the only way for for them to back up the actions of that last
• 50:08
  game is that go get them, go get those guys, go get Ballinger.
• 50:12
  You know, go, go, get, go get Weaver, go get Luke Weaver, go
• 50:16
  get all these guys. Like just go, just go.
• 50:18
  Go crazy. Like you have the.
• 50:20
  Money. You, you, you have money.
• 50:22
  Not saying you have all the money, but, you know, put people
• 50:25
  in the stands, like give me, give me something to like, all
• 50:28
  right, we're going to try it, but if it doesn't work out in
• 50:29
  the first half, trade everybody. It's OK.
• 50:32
  I wish, literally. Yeah, I wish that more teams do
• 50:35
  it like that, you know, like what what you say is like, you
• 50:38
  got to do something, You got to be proactive.
• 50:41
  If you don't know proactive, especially these, you just don't
• 50:44
  know because look at these runs like these teams are having.
• 50:47
  It's just the way baseball is. So I mean, look at the Jays, for
• 50:50
  example, like how many people had the Jays going all the way
• 50:53
  to the very end and compete with the Dodgers, right?
• 50:55
  I mean, there's all we. We did, we did.
• 50:58
  I mean right, right, right, but God damn seven games, that's a
• 51:01
  they they got that's. What I'm saying, Yeah, they.
• 51:03
  Got. They got a ribbon for me.
• 51:04
  They got a real good ribbon for me, yeah.
• 51:07
  I mean, I mean, it went for the team, yeah, it went down in
• 51:10
  November, right? So I mean, that's what it bodes
• 51:12
  down to. Like teams got to do better,
• 51:14
  man. I I like to see some sort of
• 51:16
  action and like more, more like, I mean, it's been more active
• 51:19
  than the usual offseason, but I like to see more like like what?
• 51:23
  I like to see two or three moves like per day, like moves that
• 51:27
  could make teams compete and, and be a problem.
• 51:31
  Like the AL ES is so competitive because every team is making
• 51:34
  moves, right, basically every year, right.
• 51:36
  So that's what's, that's what the thing about the AL ES,
• 51:39
  that's why it's always the standard in baseball, right?
• 51:42
  I mean, it is. I'm not worried about the win.
• 51:45
  I'm worried about the damn Phillies bad here, dude.
• 51:49
  Bad. Yeah, I'm worried about this.
• 51:51
  Really. They got, they got 2.
• 51:52
  They got, they got a lefty. They got, they got a, they got a
• 51:54
  Ranger, they got framer. Like those guys are one from
• 51:59
  Venezuela and the other one's from Dominican.
• 52:01
  Why wouldn't they want to go play in Miami?
• 52:04
  Yeah, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a hour and a half or two hour
• 52:07
  flight to Dominican or, or or three hour flight to.
• 52:09
  Venezuela. Like, it's so simple, yeah.
• 52:12
  Simple. You're not wrong.
• 52:14
  So I mean that, that's what I just don't understand why teens
• 52:18
  won't do it. Like that's the thing, right?
• 52:20
  That and, and, and look, they say they're trying to get cost
• 52:25
  stores to extend and they're $50 million apart.
• 52:28
  What's what's $50 million apart? Does he, what does he want?
• 52:32
  Does he want 100 million? Does he want does he want 80
• 52:35
  million? I don't know what you guys want,
• 52:37
  but if you're $50 million apart, that's not a good luck like like
• 52:40
  why you pending pitching at this like he's he's your guy, right
• 52:43
  Like you you found a guy built around guys right so he's.
• 52:48
  Traded. Yeah, exactly.
• 52:50
  That's when you come, that's when you talk about the
• 52:52
  economics of two. Like, remember that all that
• 52:55
  stuff that was going on with their the stadium and stuff like
• 52:58
  that. Didn't the city pay for the
• 52:59
  stadium and and all that other stuff that you know, but, but
• 53:04
  like I said earlier today to like you were talking about like
• 53:07
  the historic actions of the Mariners, I mean of the Marlins,
• 53:10
  like the Marlins literally dismantled their team after they
• 53:13
  won the World Series. Like what?
• 53:15
  Like why would you do that? Like, you know what I'm saying?
• 53:18
  They did mess with their team again after they won a Second
• 53:20
  World Series. Like what?
• 53:21
  Why would you do that? You know, but creatures of
• 53:24
  habit, right? You know, like I and I, and I
• 53:26
  really mean this because not not because one of my good friends
• 53:29
  is my ex roommate Dee Gordon is there, but you had Dee Gordon,
• 53:34
  you had Stan, you had Yelich you had or Soona you had.
• 53:38
  Soona, yeah. You had Martine Prado, you had
• 53:40
  you had, you had a bunch of guys.
• 53:42
  You had, I mean, God rest his soul, Fernandez.
• 53:45
  You had a lot. You had a lot of guys.
• 53:47
  You had JT Romuto, but you had a, you had a literally a, a
• 53:51
  dynasty. You had a dynasty and you got
• 53:53
  rid of it. Yeah, we can say things like,
• 53:55
  OK, well, you shouldn't have got rid of all of them.
• 53:58
  Like if anybody you should have. I mean, you're you're going to
• 54:01
  get rid of just the way the game is going.
• 54:03
  You're going to get rid of those guys.
• 54:04
  Like you're going to get rid of at least one or two of those
• 54:06
  guys. But you can't.
• 54:08
  If you got six guys that are dogs, you're not going to get
• 54:11
  rid of six guys. You're going to get rid of like
• 54:13
  2, you know what I'm saying? Like you stood batting pretty
• 54:17
  high. Like you, if you want to go to
• 54:18
  baseball, you know, you don't want to, you don't want to just
• 54:21
  dump the whole, you don't want to dump the whole ship.
• 54:23
  Like you got to literally, you got to try to compete.
• 54:26
  And then and they were bringing like they were competing
• 54:29
  against, you know, everybody in that division.
• 54:32
  You know, they're I mean, right, right.
• 54:34
  It was still, it was still a varsity division, you know, for
• 54:36
  the NL, but they were competing. And now like you got you had
• 54:40
  two, you had two MVPS, you had a, you had two MVPS, couple gold
• 54:45
  gloves, No 3 go gloves, 4 go gloves.
• 54:49
  And then you had batting title, stolen base leader.
• 54:53
  Like you had a bunch of guys like in that you had a bunch of
• 54:57
  guys that literally had to on the tip of your hands right
• 55:00
  here. Now The thing is now you have to
• 55:01
  like, think about this, how I'm going to get those type of
• 55:05
  caliber players again within what I got right now.
• 55:09
  I'm going to do that. You know, I mean, are you,
• 55:11
  you're not going to get JT, you're not going to get AJT back
• 55:14
  like like that. Like JT is a, you know, that's
• 55:17
  an athlete that's playing, that's playing, that's a
• 55:20
  catcher. Like, you know, I'm saying
• 55:21
  you're just going to have to get somebody similar to him or even
• 55:26
  close to being similar to him. You just need a good catcher.
• 55:28
  You don't need a total package like him.
• 55:30
  You drop the ball on that, it's fine, move on.
• 55:32
  But you need you need to literally have a really good
• 55:35
  catcher. You need to you need a lead off
• 55:38
  guy. Everybody can't hit thirty home
• 55:40
  runs like you need. You need pieces like that
• 55:42
  because you it was only one guy that it was it was a couple of
• 55:44
  their whole outfield at one time and hit 25 home runs or more.
• 55:48
  One of them hit 50. The other one was 20.
• 55:51
  The other one was 20. You know what I'm saying?
• 55:53
  But they were they were all complete players there.
• 55:56
  That's what they need. They need to find their identity
• 55:58
  back and just try to get as close as possible to those type
• 56:02
  of like those type of players. They might have to be a big
• 56:04
  trade. Oh, what?
• 56:05
  I forgot about Justin Bourne. So yeah, Justin Bourne, I was.
• 56:08
  Going to ask you. They had Justin Bourne back
• 56:10
  then. Justin Bourne But like, let me
• 56:12
  let me ask you guys this now. If you if we're looking at if
• 56:16
  we're looking at the free agency pool and we're looking at their
• 56:19
  team right now. And then we look at the team to
• 56:21
  where they all gave away all these players.
• 56:23
  How can you merge that together to actually live in the present
• 56:26
  moment? Yeah.
• 56:28
  I mean, you know what I would do?
• 56:31
  I would do is go, go if you're going to trade Sandy, go sign
• 56:36
  the starting pitcher. Go get a Zach Gallon, go get a
• 56:39
  look at Giulio. Go get someone.
• 56:41
  Yeah, well, you could trade a year for a year.
• 56:43
  A year sign someone else. Yeah, Now that.
• 56:45
  Gal, I was doing there before right so just.
• 56:49
  Let me see, let me see if this actually works.
• 56:50
  Let me, I can, I can take an ill for, you know, financially
• 56:54
  because that's what it really comes down there.
• 56:56
  Financially, I could take a a loss.
• 56:58
  If anybody knows economics, you take a loss, you don't pay taxes
• 57:01
  like we know that. So you, you, you literally just
• 57:05
  show, let let me, let me just see if this formula will work.
• 57:08
  Just get a bunch of guys on a one year deal, you know,
• 57:10
  whatever and see what happens. You know, if this formulas
• 57:13
  actually work, because obviously it's proven that your formula is
• 57:16
  not working consistently. So if you get a bunch of guys,
• 57:20
  you know, so you get like, I wouldn't say they're going to go
• 57:22
  ahead and go get like, you know, Cal Tucker or or Ranger or
• 57:27
  anything like that. Like no, no, no, like don't get
• 57:30
  the don't get the the A list, the A list actors.
• 57:34
  Go get those C list guys and see, see what really comes
• 57:37
  about. Because if you can, if you can
• 57:40
  get that and you can put it put together like a formula, then
• 57:42
  you can go and compete. Because at one time those free
• 57:45
  agents were on the team to where they're they were competing.
• 57:47
  You know, they were probably in the playoffs and all that stuff
• 57:49
  too. Let's see what?
• 57:51
  Let's see one more time. I know, I know.
• 57:53
  It's supposed to be rapid fire, but it's not.
• 57:56
  No, you're. Fine, we're good.
• 57:57
  We're good, we're good. Wait, you got one more, Two
• 58:00
  more, Rocky? Yeah, I got three more and we're
• 58:03
  good. We we're almost done.
• 58:06
  I mean, you probably can make a trade for curtail Martin.
• 58:09
  No, if you just tell them. All right, well, you you got it.
• 58:16
  You got it. You have no choice but not to.
• 58:18
  You have a whole minor league system.
• 58:20
  Just get rid of them. Like you know what I'm saying?
• 58:22
  Just trade, trade them away. You can probably do you need you
• 58:27
  need you need some, you need a couple guys, you need a couple
• 58:29
  guys, but I wouldn't try. I mean they're or they're going
• 58:32
  to make their their moves on trades or free agency.
• 58:36
  Like the only the only one I probably see with free agency to
• 58:40
  go get is probably Zach or Lucas Giolito.
• 58:45
  You know, you could probably get them on a one year deal and just
• 58:47
  see what happens. I agree.
• 58:54
  I mean, you guys start winning, man.
• 58:57
  Like build around that young core and start winning, man.
• 59:01
  That's all we're asking. But I think the other AL team I
• 59:05
  think is Royals. So I think we're all on the same
• 59:07
  page with the Royals, right? So.
• 59:09
  Yeah, Royals are Royals are that's going to be a good.
• 59:12
  That's I mean, and and this I was telling telling you guys,
• 59:15
  like last time we did the the episode, I was like, the AL
• 59:18
  Central is turning around. It's turning around to where
• 59:22
  it's getting back to where it used it used to be when
• 59:24
  Verlander and all those other guys were there like Tori Hunter
• 59:27
  and and damn, who else was in that league?
• 59:33
  Joe Mallard on those guys. Like, you know what I'm saying?
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  Like that's that was a that was a division that was a real good
• 59:38
  division. Like, you know, you're going to
• 59:39
  get the Twins are probably going to play against the Yankees.
• 59:41
  They're going to get swept. OK, but at least you got to, you
• 59:45
  know, a team that can win 90 to 100 game.
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  I mean a 90 to 90, I mean 80 to 90 games, you know what I'm
• 59:51
  saying? Consistency, I think, I think
• 59:53
  the AL Central is a consistently A500 plus division now, you
• 1:00:00
  know, because everybody's being active twins.
• 1:00:02
  Got to find a way to get there man.
• 1:00:05
  Yeah, yeah, they got it. I mean, you're right.
• 1:00:08
  I mean, you, you got stars like you said, like Salvador Perez
• 1:00:12
  is, is still there after all these years, right?
• 1:00:14
  The Royals were War 3 champions in 15.
• 1:00:17
  So those times are really competitive.
• 1:00:18
  You're right about that, right. So, I mean, so no, I agree with
• 1:00:22
  you. First manager to be fired this
• 1:00:27
  year. I'm sorry.
• 1:00:32
  Damn, man. But but there's a lot of new
• 1:00:36
  management openings right now. My there's a lot of there's a
• 1:00:41
  lot of changeover right now with with managers.
• 1:00:43
  So let me see. Let's go through it.
• 1:00:51
  I oh man, that's a tough one too.
• 1:00:53
  It's a good question. That's why I threw it out there.
• 1:00:59
  I can say the patientness of the Yankees fans and and and and
• 1:01:03
  they'll get rid of Aaron Boom, but why?
• 1:01:05
  Yeah, I could see the Yankees manager.
• 1:01:10
  He he'd probably be the prime example, do you think?
• 1:01:14
  Let me ask you this. If the Mets missed the playoffs,
• 1:01:17
  let's just say if they if they're off to a bat, Sir, do
• 1:01:20
  you think their manager Mendoza gets fired in the middle of the
• 1:01:23
  year? There's.
• 1:01:23
  Not enough moves to be made yeah.
• 1:01:25
  With them, yeah, I don't think so.
• 1:01:27
  Yeah, I don't I don't they they they haven't made a lot of
• 1:01:30
  moves, moves like that. No, I don't I don't think so.
• 1:01:37
  If, if, if they make a couple more moves, I'll be like, OK,
• 1:01:40
  but. No, I'll give you, I'll give you
• 1:01:45
  a team. I think the team, this, this,
• 1:01:47
  this manager, I'll, I'll go. And then Robbie could go after
• 1:01:51
  Saint Louis. Ollie MO Merle, I think, yeah.
• 1:01:54
  For sure, for sure. For sure.
• 1:01:56
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he's the. 1st I can see
• 1:01:58
  that for sure. Yeah, because they just got they
• 1:02:01
  just got Dustin May, but they but The thing is like that, that
• 1:02:05
  that organization as a whole and historically has been a 500 base
• 1:02:10
  team and missing the playoffs as much as they have right now.
• 1:02:16
  No, no, no. They went to the playoffs a
• 1:02:18
  couple years ago, right? They went to the playoffs.
• 1:02:22
  When did they made it to the playoffs?
• 1:02:24
  Was it 23 or 22 one of those years?
• 1:02:27
  But yeah, they missed the playoffs 2 years in a row.
• 1:02:32
  So they missed 2524. So 23.
• 1:02:35
  I think they made the playoffs. So yeah, I mean, that's the
• 1:02:40
  that's the most likely team that probably fires him.
• 1:02:43
  I could definitely see that. 20222222 was their last SO.
• 1:02:47
  Three years. So three years now.
• 1:02:49
  Wow. Yeah, they lost 2O2.
• 1:02:52
  They got swept by the Philly. Yep.
• 1:02:55
  Yeah, I think, I think Saint Louis is going to he's going to
• 1:02:58
  get fired. Rob, what do you think?
• 1:03:02
  I like the Saint Louis 1 and I, I, I like that.
• 1:03:07
  I was thinking, what if, what if?
• 1:03:09
  I'm not saying, and I don't think it'll even happen.
• 1:03:12
  But remember last year, the collapse of the Detroit Tigers
• 1:03:17
  and how they lost that division? And then they go, Oh yeah.
• 1:03:21
  They lost 15 games. They.
• 1:03:22
  Were like 15 games right? What if they start out and have
• 1:03:26
  a bad month month and a half and they just start losing?
• 1:03:31
  And is there any chance that the AJ Hinch would get fired?
• 1:03:39
  If they it was a. Good.
• 1:03:45
  No, it will. Well, like if they had a first
• 1:03:47
  bad couple months, you know, like to start the year and
• 1:03:51
  they're like, Oh well, and then, you know, then they end up
• 1:03:53
  having to trade scuba. At the deadline and they trace
• 1:03:56
  scuba. You know what I mean?
• 1:03:58
  Yeah, if they if they're losing and they got to trace scuba,
• 1:04:00
  yeah, he's out. Yeah, he's gone because.
• 1:04:04
  I was thinking maybe that might be a surprise to everybody if
• 1:04:07
  they just completely go off the rails in the beginning of the
• 1:04:10
  year, which you know. It's possible, but I think.
• 1:04:15
  It's possible too, you know, like the way they collapsed last
• 1:04:19
  year. They just, you know, but we'll
• 1:04:22
  see. 15 games, man. I think it would take a lot.
• 1:04:25
  I think it would take a lot, but I think it's possible.
• 1:04:29
  But so I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that just just
• 1:04:34
  to be different. Hey, what about Kate for the
• 1:04:37
  Athletics? Do you think he's the manager of
• 1:04:39
  that team when they move to Vegas?
• 1:04:41
  Nah, I think he'll be all right. Just because, just because
• 1:04:43
  they're in a transition of moving too.
• 1:04:45
  So I, I don't. I don't, I don't think so.
• 1:04:50
  Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't. Yeah, I don't.
• 1:04:54
  I think. I think he's in the safe.
• 1:04:55
  I think he's in the safe spot. They got too much other things
• 1:04:57
  going on there. I don't think they're really
• 1:04:59
  worrying about winning right now.
• 1:05:01
  And when it now when they move into that stadium, yeah, that's
• 1:05:07
  a lot of money. That's all I'm saying.
• 1:05:09
  They're going to have to get that.
• 1:05:10
  They're going to have to get that return of investment back.
• 1:05:12
  If they don't get their return of investment back of like
• 1:05:14
  winning games or anything like that, that's when they'd be
• 1:05:16
  like, OK, all right, We, we need to, we need to figure this out.
• 1:05:20
  Right. What about Joe Espada?
• 1:05:21
  What about Joe Espada with the with the Astros?
• 1:05:24
  Yeah, I think his job's on the line too.
• 1:05:27
  Yeah, I think that too. Yeah, I think so, yeah.
• 1:05:31
  I mean, they, they're going to have to, they're going to have
• 1:05:32
  to like, I mean, they, they just, they just got such a, they
• 1:05:38
  got such a high standard because they just whoop ass, bro.
• 1:05:41
  Like, you know what I'm saying? So it's like they just, I mean
• 1:05:46
  their whole deal right now, like, but they, they can't, they
• 1:05:50
  can't be so hard on this. So because the division is
• 1:05:53
  getting better, like nobody wants to get their butt beat
• 1:05:55
  every year. Like, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:05:59
  You got the Mariners, the Mariners are making moves.
• 1:06:00
  The Mariners went to the ALCS the first time he was with the
• 1:06:03
  ALCS since 2001. Like you know, I'm saying.
• 1:06:05
  So they're like they have, they have different, they, they want
• 1:06:10
  to do well and I, I understand they want to do well, but like
• 1:06:15
  that they at least they kept their core.
• 1:06:17
  They still got Alvarez, they still got Altuve, they still
• 1:06:20
  got, they got Correa back. They always had a good pitching
• 1:06:24
  staff like you know, I'm saying they're going to they're they're
• 1:06:28
  for sure going to sprinkle in some more veterans like you know
• 1:06:30
  what I'm saying? They're going to sprinkle in
• 1:06:32
  some more guys you have at first base.
• 1:06:35
  I played with him how I forget his name.
• 1:06:37
  Christian Walker. Yeah, Christian Walker.
• 1:06:40
  Like you just gave him a three-year deal or four year
• 1:06:42
  deal or something like that. So like you have guys you can
• 1:06:45
  win that division or if you don't win that division, you're
• 1:06:49
  definitely going to be in the wild card, you know what I'm
• 1:06:51
  saying? I don't think that he's not much
• 1:06:56
  on the chopping block, but if there's not a good result at the
• 1:07:01
  end of the year, I can see them unloading.
• 1:07:06
  Waves. Yeah, but he might have only
• 1:07:09
  like 1 more year on his contract anyway, right?
• 1:07:12
  Yeah, I think so. Right, Rocky?
• 1:07:14
  Yeah, he's he has one more year left, so.
• 1:07:17
  Yeah, I I can see they're probably going to let him ride
• 1:07:20
  out until that year. I was, I was see that.
• 1:07:23
  But you know, just to, just to let it let it let it happen, you
• 1:07:27
  know? So those are so the ABS Sims
• 1:07:34
  coming out this year or this coming year.
• 1:07:36
  You think it'll benefit brutal? You think it's brutal?
• 1:07:40
  I want to. Hear this, I'll just I'll just
• 1:07:43
  kidding. I mean, like I went to the me
• 1:07:47
  and Jay, we went to the the coaching MLB coaching
• 1:07:50
  development program or whatever. So I think it can work.
• 1:07:56
  Like, you know what I'm saying? I think it can work, but do we
• 1:08:02
  need it? You know what I'm saying?
• 1:08:04
  I think you're I think there's other ways.
• 1:08:06
  Like there's nothing better than a human, the human error, like
• 1:08:08
  the human error, because it's adjusted adjustability.
• 1:08:12
  I, I personally think that, OK, if you want to have that to like
• 1:08:16
  grade, grade your grade your, your, your umpires, cool.
• 1:08:22
  I'm good with, I'm good with that.
• 1:08:24
  But I really think that you need to incentivize these umpires,
• 1:08:30
  dude, Incentivize them. Give them something to work for.
• 1:08:33
  Don't give them, don't just be like, OK, well, he's, you know,
• 1:08:38
  he gets paid $150,000 a year. But this guy right here, he just
• 1:08:42
  rung up is making $30 million a year.
• 1:08:44
  Like, no, I'll give them something to work for.
• 1:08:46
  I'm going to show you I'm the best umpire.
• 1:08:47
  Like, you know what I'm saying? That's my, that's my three cents
• 1:08:50
  on that. I, I don't, don't, I mean, the
• 1:08:52
  game has made a lot of money. I don't want to like I don't I
• 1:08:55
  don't care what anybody say. The game has made money like in
• 1:08:59
  like what in 2020 they made a billion dollars.
• 1:09:02
  Now they got this whole gambling thing going on.
• 1:09:03
  That's a whole another story. But like they make money like
• 1:09:07
  they got TV deals. This is that the game ain't like
• 1:09:09
  the game is not growing. The game has always been what
• 1:09:12
  the game has been like. It's not going to go away, but I
• 1:09:16
  think it has something to do with probably some of the TV
• 1:09:20
  deals. They want faster games or
• 1:09:21
  something like that. Or or they say like attention
• 1:09:23
  span or something like that. Like, I don't know, I don't know
• 1:09:25
  what it is. But all I know is this, that
• 1:09:27
  there's enough money to be made to where you can incentivize
• 1:09:31
  these umpires, put them in the game to give them, give them
• 1:09:34
  something to work for. Because yeah, they they get,
• 1:09:37
  they get, they get booed like crazy.
• 1:09:42
  Like they get yelled at. Like, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:09:44
  Like give them, give them some type of incentive instead of
• 1:09:47
  just, you know, just a regular two week paycheck, like all
• 1:09:50
  right, at the end of the year, you know, let's do this at the
• 1:09:53
  end of the year, top 10 or top whatever.
• 1:09:57
  You know, this is the bonus prize.
• 1:09:59
  This is the prize. If you're the top guy, do you
• 1:10:01
  get $2,000,000 or three million? I don't know, I don't know what
• 1:10:04
  it is. I don't know what the pool
• 1:10:05
  should should be. But I'm just saying incentivize
• 1:10:08
  these guys because they're humans too.
• 1:10:11
  And I think the ABS will work. You know, I did see a lot of it,
• 1:10:15
  but you know, if you have a lot of challenges, I don't know how
• 1:10:20
  many challenges it's going to be.
• 1:10:22
  I I just think it, it becomes too robotic.
• 1:10:24
  You know, I'm saying like I, I love the game.
• 1:10:26
  I love the human element of the game.
• 1:10:28
  I think it can work, give and take.
• 1:10:31
  Like, you know, I'm saying I don't, I don't think it should
• 1:10:34
  like they, I don't know how many challenges a, a a player can get
• 1:10:37
  or a pitcher can get or whatever they one or two challenges a
• 1:10:40
  game. But, you know, also incentivized
• 1:10:43
  umpire, man, like for men to make that good, that good
• 1:10:46
  position, that good, you know, 'cause they're putting their
• 1:10:49
  life on the line too. They get smoked by balls and all
• 1:10:52
  this stuff. Like, you know, give them some
• 1:10:53
  bread. You know, that's, that's, yeah,
• 1:10:56
  again, that's my three cents, three cents tray.
• 1:10:59
  That's that's who it is. I wonder how the reactions are
• 1:11:04
  going to be with with the whole ABS system with the like you
• 1:11:09
  said, and then some of the players are going to be like
• 1:11:12
  what is going on in it? You know, there's going to be a
• 1:11:14
  lot of eagles that's going to clash.
• 1:11:15
  And, you know, and remember, I think it was Taylor Wallace that
• 1:11:20
  played against the Astros. He tapped his head twice
• 1:11:23
  intentionally in front of the umpire.
• 1:11:25
  And, you know, and there's going to be so much smoke going on.
• 1:11:29
  And I want to see what the objections are going to be on
• 1:11:30
  that as well. Right?
• 1:11:32
  So, yeah. And now that technology is
• 1:11:35
  involved and we'll see how that works because there could be
• 1:11:37
  trial and error and. And it's going to be like, hey,
• 1:11:40
  that pitch should have been outside rather than just right
• 1:11:42
  there, you know what I mean? So it's going to be.
• 1:11:46
  Crazy stuff like that. And hey, yeah, for sure.
• 1:11:49
  I mean, you're using technology and there's nothing is 100% out
• 1:11:53
  of it. But I mean, you feel comfortable
• 1:11:55
  enough to do it, right. So, so, so yeah, for sure.
• 1:12:05
  Crazy. Yeah, I think I don't have a
• 1:12:07
  problem with Absi, just think. I just think that you can
• 1:12:11
  incentivize some of the the umpires, you know, they're,
• 1:12:14
  they're, they're, they're, they're busting their asses too.
• 1:12:18
  I just think that they need to yeah, they incentivize them a
• 1:12:21
  little bit. They use ABS to do the grading
• 1:12:24
  and stuff like that. You didn't do what you want.
• 1:12:27
  Yeah. I think I think it will be a lot
• 1:12:28
  a little to bring those guys and you know, instead of them just
• 1:12:31
  kind of just being, you know, kind of looked over or just kind
• 1:12:36
  of like, you know, look past or whatever, just being punch
• 1:12:40
  dummies or anything like that. You know, I mean, I, I got my
• 1:12:42
  fair share of fights with umpires too, but I, I made sure
• 1:12:46
  I apologize to him the next day, you know, but I think they need
• 1:12:50
  to, I think they need to be incentivized so a little bit.
• 1:12:55
  Yeah, I think I'm gonna say I, I think that you need that human
• 1:13:02
  element to the game. You just yeah, the game needs
• 1:13:06
  that stuff. So I'm, I'm with you based on
• 1:13:09
  everything you said, just kind of just I, I don't know how much
• 1:13:14
  it's going to change things from that standpoint, but will it
• 1:13:20
  benefit Major League Baseball? I don't know.
• 1:13:23
  But I just think you need that human element of the game still.
• 1:13:28
  When you lose it, it's going to feel different.
• 1:13:30
  It's going to, I don't know. It's just doesn't it's is it
• 1:13:34
  going to feel like baseball still?
• 1:13:36
  I don't know, you know, I don't know so well, we'll have to see
• 1:13:41
  how much it changes, but I just hope that they find some way to
• 1:13:46
  keep that human element of the game like there, you know?
• 1:13:50
  Yeah, they have to. They have to.
• 1:13:53
  They have to. I love, I love how our, our, our
• 1:13:57
  life, our, our, our society is kind of, is kind of evolving is,
• 1:14:02
  is very, is getting very advanced.
• 1:14:05
  I get it. But you know, a man still made a
• 1:14:08
  computer. That's all I'm saying.
• 1:14:11
  Yeah, for sure, for sure. I mean, it's, it's like I said,
• 1:14:15
  man, the the lost art of the old school element is going away by
• 1:14:19
  the year, right? So and now it's gone to that,
• 1:14:22
  right. So we'll see how it is.
• 1:14:24
  I don't know how it is going to go in year 1.
• 1:14:26
  Are they doing that during the World Baseball Classic?
• 1:14:28
  You would think they are right. Let's let's check on that.
• 1:14:33
  I think they think they might. I hope they probably probably
• 1:14:38
  you know what they probably they probably won't because some some
• 1:14:42
  places don't or they don't have that they don't have that ABS
• 1:14:46
  like you know, I know Mexico and other stuff, though WBCI don't
• 1:14:57
  yeah, I don't think they don't. Think they're doing it during
• 1:14:59
  spring training. We know that for a fact, right?
• 1:15:01
  So so. Yeah, they're going to.
• 1:15:09
  You know that for a fact that they're going to do it during
• 1:15:10
  the spring training, right? So yeah, I mean, they're going
• 1:15:13
  to play it out at the end, right.
• 1:15:14
  So let's ask the final question. Will the Dodger 3 peat for the
• 1:15:21
  first time since the mid 2000s, There's.
• 1:15:25
  A good chance. Rob.
• 1:15:30
  I'm going to say no. I'm going to say no, they don't.
• 1:15:34
  It just it's really hard to win three in a row.
• 1:15:37
  It's hard to win two in a row. To win three in a row.
• 1:15:40
  It's so hard. I mean, if any team could do it,
• 1:15:43
  of course it's them, but. A team, a couple teams did it,
• 1:15:47
  the A's did it and and the yeah, then the race day, it hasn't
• 1:15:51
  been. Done.
• 1:15:52
  You're right. Yankees did it.
• 1:15:54
  Yeah, Yankees did it. Yeah, I mean it.
• 1:15:57
  It is. It's just really hard.
• 1:15:59
  It's hard. I'm.
• 1:16:00
  I'm going to say no. I'm just, I'm just going to say
• 1:16:02
  no, but. I'm, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go
• 1:16:06
  with this. Yeah, I'm gonna go with the
• 1:16:08
  field too, I think. Well, I mean, man, that's tough
• 1:16:12
  to say because the Dodgers did get ADS.
• 1:16:14
  So it's they got their clothes right, so.
• 1:16:19
  And they're going to continue to make moves.
• 1:16:21
  They're going to continue to make moves throughout the year.
• 1:16:23
  They're going to find these pieces.
• 1:16:24
  We're like, you know, we probably need this guy right
• 1:16:26
  here, you know, or they probably need that guy.
• 1:16:28
  You know, I wouldn't be surprised if if they get get rid
• 1:16:32
  of Max Muncie to upgrade. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:16:34
  Like not not saying upgrade. But it's pretty loyal.
• 1:16:37
  Japanese era, yeah. Yeah, but, but I, I don't see
• 1:16:40
  that happening. If Muncie gets hurt, I I'm not
• 1:16:44
  going to, I hope he doesn't get hurt because he is a big asset
• 1:16:47
  to that, to that team. But they know how to, you know,
• 1:16:52
  when somebody goes down, they know how to find a player to
• 1:16:56
  where they can, you know, rent, rent that guy for that amount of
• 1:17:01
  time. And they use them well to where
• 1:17:03
  they just know how to platoon guys.
• 1:17:04
  Like I said before, they know how to platoon guys.
• 1:17:06
  They know what they're doing. They know how to navigate.
• 1:17:12
  They navigate the just throughout the, the whole year,
• 1:17:15
  the weather and all that other stuff.
• 1:17:16
  They just know what they're doing.
• 1:17:18
  Is it is it, is it OK, let me take that back.
• 1:17:22
  So it is going to be hard. It's going to be hard to three
• 1:17:24
  people. But are they going to go deep in
• 1:17:26
  the playoffs? Hell yes.
• 1:17:28
  Yeah, they will. They will, they'll go to the
• 1:17:31
  NLCS again for sure. But is it going to be uphill
• 1:17:34
  battle? Absolutely.
• 1:17:36
  They're going to have to need to get their Mario Kart Mushroom.
• 1:17:39
  Also. Because they're, they're,
• 1:17:41
  they're, they're their whole thing is, yeah, they have older
• 1:17:44
  guys, you know, but they just have to have to stay healthy.
• 1:17:50
  You know, just like the Yankees. The Yankees got to stay healthy.
• 1:17:53
  The Dodgers got to stay healthy. I don't see, I don't why
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  wouldn't the Dodgers, you know, get to the the dance again,
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  like, you know, I'm saying, why wouldn't they?
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  They got all the pieces in the world.
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  They got the best player in the world.
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  He hits home runs and throws A and throws A throws up a 2 or or
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  a four or whatever the case might be, whatever he throws.
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  Like you have a you have, you have the whole dynamics of that
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  team to where you know, it's not just him, but you have, you
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  know, everybody around their rotation is nasty.
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  They're they're they're one through 9 is nasty.
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  Their bench is nasty. Their AAA team is nasty.
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  Their AA team is nasty. Their coaches are amazing.
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  Like they just have, they just have not saying that other I'm
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  not just undermining other other teams either, but it's just that
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  again, they're, they're in a situation more often than others
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  to where they know how to navigate it.
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  So that's that's why I say I won't say I'll take it back and
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  say they probably want 3 peat, but they're going to go, they're
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  going to go deep. They going to fight.
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  They're going to fight to get there.
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  Well, they know what it takes to go there, right?
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  They've been there twice and they won the whole thing.
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  And I mean, they they've been they've been one of the most
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  consistent teams for the last decade, right?
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  So they have the track record and I'm curious to see what the
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  Braves and Phillies will do. I think those two teams are
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  going to be the biggest threats if they spend the way they they
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  are. Right.
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  Because what and and my my mysterious team is always a
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  Padres. Like, what are they going to do?
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  Like, are they going to pull the blockbuster deals that, you
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  know, that's been rumored out there to address other needs and
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  give up guys? We'll just have to see because
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  knowing them, you never count them out the Padres.
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  So especially with them in that division.
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  So we'll see. Let's see.
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  Yeah, I don't. I don't think I don't think the
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  Padres are have a like, you know, they just have to they
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  just have to re renegotiate like their team goal.
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  It's not just to beat the Dodgers, bro, it's it's
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  literally just to just to play good baseball and see where it
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  takes you. We you, you know that, you know
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  two hours N that's a monster up there.
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  Sure, just play good bass, just play good baseball against them
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  and then, you know, if they throw the three 4-5 guys just
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  dominate like you. It's not about it's not about
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  the Padres versus the Dodgers. Like we're not worrying about
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  that. Like we're worrying about.
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  You know, if you can, if you're going to lose a game, if you go
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  to Colorado, like like not saying not saying that you know,
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  teams going to beat up on Colorado like that Colorado is
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  still a big league team. Like I expect Colorado to win
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  baseball games, But you know, that's it.
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  That's the expectancy of like, you know, teams going into
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  Colorado, they should win a baseball game just because of
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  like how things lined up for the past couple years.
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  Lex experience and and etcetera. But I, I really, I really truly
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  believe that the Padres can be that number 2 in that division
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  easily or #1 in that division easily if they just decide to
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  just play baseball instead of just worrying about 1 focus of
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  theme. Yeah, maybe, maybe it's the
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  media, maybe I'm getting misconstrued, but it's not, it's
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  not LA versus San Diego like it should be.
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  We're a good baseball team and we're going to see where we're
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  going to end up in October. Right, Because it's because The
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  thing is, like with baseball, it's balanced, right?
• 1:21:18
  Like how many teams are going to compete in the NL especially,
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  right? That's why I just don't know
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  where, where the NL Central's at, for example, Because look,
• 1:21:28
  you saw what the Dodgers did to this to the Milwaukee Brewers.
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  They swept the crap out of the bed.
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  Who would have thought that they were like I thought they would,
• 1:21:36
  it would go at least three or four games.
• 1:21:38
  But man, the, the, the Dodgers ate them alive, right?
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  And swept them. So I mean, the Dodgers are the
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  best team in baseball until further notice, right?
• 1:21:46
  So I mean, they're back-to-back champs since the 2000s, right?
• 1:21:48
  And they're, they're, they're the team that could trend 3
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  picks since the Yankees. So, and it hasn't happened in
• 1:21:54
  2025 years. I would say 20 what whatever.
• 1:21:57
  So, but I mean, Toronto's motivated more than ever.
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  I don't think they're done. We'll see what they do.
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  I mean, the AL East is competitive, but I mean, to me,
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  I, I would still probably feel, but I think I have to see what
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  the Braves and Phillies do. I think they're not done.
• 1:22:12
  I think they're motivated to do something.
• 1:22:14
  I have to see what the Mets do as well, and I have to see what
• 1:22:17
  the Cubs do because the Cubs haven't really done much and
• 1:22:20
  they need starting pitching badly.
• 1:22:22
  And they seem like they're a team that that needs pitching so
• 1:22:25
  much and they're willing to trade some guys.
• 1:22:27
  So I think that's what it bodes down to, right?
• 1:22:30
  So I think that's what's. Yeah.
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  You have any final thoughts before we wrap it?
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  Up. I'm good.
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  This is I'm I'm excited. I'm excited for the new year.
• 1:22:38
  I'm excited for, you know, I, I want, I want, I want teams to,
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  to, to try. I want, I want teams to try.
• 1:22:48
  That's the that's the whole gist of the, you know, competitive
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  baseball. Just just try, you know, try to
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  go out there, try to win a championship, try to try to
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  compete, you know, and see what happens at the end of the year.
• 1:23:02
  Take April serious, you know, because a lot, I know a lot of
• 1:23:05
  people always just say like, oh, it's just April baseball is
• 1:23:07
  like, all right, well, you say it's April baseball, but you
• 1:23:10
  know, stuff happens. Like, you know, Schwarber back
• 1:23:13
  in the day, like, you know, his first year, what happened in
• 1:23:16
  April towards ACL or whatever. So you're going to have to
• 1:23:19
  replace that guy. Like knock on wood, that doesn't
• 1:23:22
  happen to any other player, because that's the worst thing
• 1:23:24
  you can do for a player like that to be left on the shelf.
• 1:23:27
  But you know, I think teams should try try to win April, try
• 1:23:31
  to win May, like try to try to win like, you know, and and I
• 1:23:35
  think setting that setting that whole seven months or eight
• 1:23:39
  months of a season up starts in the offseason.
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  So, so try, try to sit there and try to put pieces together to go
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  out there and compete. I don't care if you're the I
• 1:23:49
  don't care if you're the Reds going against the Yankees.
• 1:23:51
  They should be trying to like beat each other's ass.
• 1:23:53
  Like, you know, even with the Marlins, the Marlins going
• 1:23:57
  against the Dodgers, if we're going in for a three-game set,
• 1:24:00
  I'm going to try to take two out of three against them.
• 1:24:01
  That's that's how it should be. Win the series.
• 1:24:06
  It's not it's not I mean we always talk about economics in
• 1:24:08
  the game, but you know it is what it is with the economics
• 1:24:12
  that the economics is taking care of itself.
• 1:24:14
  If you if you put you know your your your your best foot
• 1:24:18
  forward, you know it'll take care of yourselves.
• 1:24:20
  That's that's my final thoughts. I, I, I want to see more
• 1:24:23
  competitive baseball. I want to see more competitive
• 1:24:25
  baseball between every single team because every single team
• 1:24:28
  has a history. I think they need to reach down
• 1:24:32
  and get into to where they're there.
• 1:24:36
  There was there was some type of success in that history of that
• 1:24:39
  team. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:24:40
  Do they need to find that? I think every team needs to find
• 1:24:43
  that, that inner fire and needs to go out there and be like, you
• 1:24:45
  know what, we're here to win. It is what it is.
• 1:24:50
  Well, Trayvon, we appreciate you coming back once again and, and
• 1:24:55
  that that was great man. And, and we appreciate Jay here.
• 1:24:58
  Shout out to Jay for a bit being here.
• 1:24:59
  I know he had to leave early, but we appreciate both you guys
• 1:25:03
  for sure enough. Trayvon, just let you let
• 1:25:07
  everyone else know, like your social information, social media
• 1:25:10
  information in your project, your upcoming work.
• 1:25:13
  Just just let them know what you what's coming up for you.
• 1:25:17
  OK, so my social media Instagram.
• 1:25:21
  Follow me on Instagram with Trayvon under Score Robinson.
• 1:25:24
  So I'm on threads too. So the same thing, you know, and
• 1:25:28
  all that stuff. Me and me and Jay and Jalen
• 1:25:32
  Davis, a couple other guys were with the Smile Zone created by
• 1:25:36
  Jay. It's just mentorship program.
• 1:25:41
  They're just launching off next year.
• 1:25:43
  What next month in January. So I just trying to reach out to
• 1:25:47
  all these kids. We just came back from Taiwan
• 1:25:50
  for international camps and stuff like that.
• 1:25:53
  A little tournament. So it was it was it was good.
• 1:25:56
  It's it's good. Good little thing going on right
• 1:25:58
  now getting underway. But most importantly, I'm trying
• 1:26:02
  to get a affiliated ball job. I've been reaching out to teams
• 1:26:05
  like crazy. I did those anybody knows some
• 1:26:10
  teams that that probably need some, you know, former baseball
• 1:26:13
  player, you know, 19 years professional.
• 1:26:17
  You know, I'm trying to I'm trying to get locked on with
• 1:26:19
  that for the summer. Yeah, that's pretty much what
• 1:26:23
  I've been doing. Going to head back to the
• 1:26:25
  freezing cold this week. So.
• 1:26:29
  But yeah, other than that, I just been trying to reach out to
• 1:26:31
  team to see if I can lock down the job and and also doing the
• 1:26:34
  the stuff with Jay and the Smile Zone.
• 1:26:37
  And yeah, looking forward to 2026 and continue to, you know,
• 1:26:43
  express my love for the game. That's cool, man.
• 1:26:46
  Thanks for joining us. So it was fun talking with you
• 1:26:50
  and Jay and, you know, having you guys back.
• 1:26:52
  It was cool, you know? Well, you know, we got to do
• 1:26:55
  this again. You got to do this again, like
• 1:26:56
  probably before spring training or something.
• 1:26:58
  You know, maybe we will. We will.
• 1:27:01
  We will share, man. Definitely.
• 1:27:03
  And I think, I think I think on 26 we're going to start going on
• 1:27:06
  camera. So we're going to do some things
• 1:27:08
  now, man. So it's big things happening.
• 1:27:10
  But yes, Sir. My camera up anyway right here
• 1:27:13
  too, so yeah. We'll be ready.
• 1:27:16
  We'll be ready. Oh yeah, for sure.
• 1:27:19
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  Till next time, take care, be kind to each other.
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  Signing up from the Sports Ave. Twister podcast at Sunday,
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  December 14th, 2025.