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Fluid Soaked Rag: Jack the Ripper DNA Claim & Godzilla 2014 Review · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  [Music] welcome to multiple
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  nerdgasm your destination for all things
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  nerdy so um who's going to start yeah I know I don't really know how to start without
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  Dave normally Dave does the intro but we're uh we're sans's Dave this week
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  that's true but normally we do cut into the podcast after the intro anyway so oh
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  okay the audience might not have even known we might not have even been we
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  might not have even had to mention it yeah and done is draw attention to the
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  fact that Dave's intros get cut out now he's going to know that's true unless we
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  unless we cut out this intro in which case no problem and then we'll have to
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  cut you saying this it's it's the Inception of intros I have to leave a
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  lot of notes for Jenna people might not have even noticed Dave was gone they'd
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  just be listening to the podcast and thinking well this it's not really a
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  voice of negativity this week yeah this week's was very positive no one was
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  picking on Luke and uh and it was a Frank and civil discuss
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  about films games and TV yeah well wait
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  don't don't judge it yet I mean it might let's see how it goes first yeah that's
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  true to be fair I think Dave does provide most of the comedy so this could
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  be incredibly dry yeah
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  sure yeah yeah he he definitely uh Cuts us off when we get too boring true sure
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  but luckily for us uh he doesn't actually listen to the podcast so we can
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  say what we want about him absolutely so there was a big convention on here in
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  Sydney on the weekend there was I was at it I was there as well I saw you there I
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  think I saw you as well yeah I was a little jealous cuz I kept seeing photos
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  being posted and it looked very fun and I wasn't there you should have been
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  jealous Luke yeah it was pretty cool it was good I mean I'm jealous also cuz I
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  missed uh one of the things that I wanted to see at it yeah well thankfully
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  I saw that I mean like I'd like to be able to play this down matt but it was [ __ ]
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  excellent and uh I'm talking about a panel featuring Nicholas
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  Brendan otherwise known as Xander from Buffy and uh I think he's I think that's
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  all he's known as yeah that's right although he did mention he was on some
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  cop show that I'd never heard of either and I was like I'll have to take your word for
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  that just take his word not even I'll look into that it was just all right I
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  believe you I believe you well I don't really watch police procedurals
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  so you know really huh yeah I mean I used to but kind of once you've seen
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  several episodes of any one of them you've kind of seen them all
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  Y and he was joined by uh Emma corfield
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  M uh otherwise known as Ana from the same show before mentioned Buffy also
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  I'm not sure what else she does first thing I noticed about them when they
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  came on stage was uh that they'd gotten really old and then I realized it had
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  been like 20 years since the show yeah so and they weren't spring chickens when
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  they did the show yeah that's true mind you Xander is in incredible shape yeah
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  right and I don't mean that in the you know I I I saw him from I don't know
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  like maybe 10 m at one point when he was hanging about the autograph area and
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  yeah like well that's realistically only as close as I got to him yeah I mean
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  yeah he he looks good he's he's old and he looks like he's graying a bit but
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  yeah he's all right yeah he's got some uh he's a silver fox now but got his
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  buff yeah he is he what about Emma I didn't see her she looks like
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  your mom's friend she's you know she was Luke you
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  didn't tell me this friend of your mom's no it was funny cuz she came on
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  and she's got short sensible haircut and
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  you know practical clothing and she just looks like any other middle-aged
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  woman yeah but if that didn't take away the magic of her character then as soon
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  as she opened her mouth all magic was gone
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  oh really she was [ __ ] boring and she knew nothing about Buffy people were
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  like what's your favorite episode she don't really don't really remember any
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  of them like oh can you say the line from this no don't don't know any more
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  lines I okay I could understand someone not actually knowing that but if you're
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  going to a convention to make money off it yeah yeah if you're going to a
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  convention to talk to people about a show that you did at least try and
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  remember something about the show that you did that they're going to ask you
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  have set answers Man Nicholas Brandon had an answer for everything and he just
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  played into the gig's hands you know what was your favorite episode oh who
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  who could who could tell between the body and hush you know and everyone's
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  [ __ ] cheering and you know he did his little dance and um oh they wanted them
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  of course to sing their duet from Once More with feeling course before he could
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  even answer she piped in with absolutely not and everyone kind of groaned and she
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  was like no look it was a long time time ago I don't know the words I'm not
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  really a singer anyway and Nick's like well I'll I'll do it if you do it and
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  she's like no I'm not going to do it he's like well I'll do it anyway I'll do
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  it regardless then so he he started singing his bit and then like
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  occasionally kind of threw the mic in her Direction encouraging her to jump in
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  which he half-heartedly did occasionally but uh yeah it was pretty
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  one-sided that's a shame yeah but it was fun overall it was
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  hilarious and yeah the most hilarious thing that was said and and I thought it
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  was going to be the most hilarious thing I'd heard all day until we got to the
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  next panel which Matt you can talk about in a moment but um to end this uh
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  somebody had asked Nicholas if he could have picked any
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  story line from the comics of Buffy to actually become an episode and be filmed
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  what would it be and his answer was well seeing how Michelle tratenberg grew up
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  I'd pick one of the sex scenes with her and um nobody could quite believe
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  he'd said that and then Emma looked at him like are you
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  serious and and then he just trailed off with I'd hit that so
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  hard yeah he was serious yeah he was he was 100%
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  serious no he was awesome he was awesome he should be in more stuff yeah I really
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  wish seen him so that's one the main thing that we wanted to see but I yeah
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  we just didn't make it there in time and the parking there was a bit of a debacle
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  that's not interesting though so I won't go on about it but uh well it was in a
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  temporary building yeah that's right it was I mean yeah it's not their fault it
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  to be honest it was pretty great once I got in there the set up it was it was
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  really well uh set up I thought it was very well organized for those of you who
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  don't know the Sydney Convention Center where this kind of stuff normally is um
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  was a really old building by Sydney terms and by that I mean it was built in 1988
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  so so they had to knock it down right so they've knocked that down so there's a
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  big smoldering hole in the ground where that used to be so um they put this
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  temporary building out on this little uh what would you call it it's called Glee
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  Island but it's not an island is it an archipelago what is it a peninsula
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  excuse me it's a peninsula and um but I remember one of the panelists that I saw
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  kept getting confused because the sun kept coming out from behind clouds and
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  it had one of those kind of semi-opaque ceilings and he was really confused why
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  it was getting brighter and brighter right actors they don't understand
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  things like the Sun but uh yeah and like of how they've
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  got like I thought this was odd because we went to go park there and the parking
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  was full and it said go park in darling Harbor which for people who don't know
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  that's not near where it is like no that's on the other side of a large body
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  of water like in the middle of the city it's not convenient yeah exactly and so
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  I was like what the [ __ ] and so so we did and we followed the directions and
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  it said you can catch a fery across uh I was like okay fair enough and they've
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  put the it's called convention Jetty and it's kind of like they've put it near
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  where the convention Setter was the old one just in case you know like like it's
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  this weird thing where people probably go to the old one so we'll put the fery
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  terminal right near it and then just F them all the way
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  around I don't know it's just weird it's just funny just going a big a car that is funny
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  yeah that's right well I don't know if you saw the car park I Matt well yeah it
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  wasn't much of a car park it it was a vacant lot where we put our cars well
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  look they did their best and to be honest I I quite enjoyed the fery ride
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  it was just that it was it took forever and once you were in there it was like
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  well I'm not leaving here like I'm not getting out of this place for at least
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  an hour cuz I've got to wait for the ferry I'm going to get on the ferry and
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  I've got to ride the ferry it's like there was no Quick Escape AP not that it
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  would have been if you had have known that was going to be the case you would
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  have planned for it it would have been yeah I could have just called the I
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  could train or something if i' known that anyway it doesn't matter it wasn't
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  didn't ruin day I could picked you up mat well there you go well anyway but uh
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  so I was disappointed I didn't see that panel but the panel that I did see was
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  fantastic and it made everything worth it because yeah we saw William
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  Shatner the man oh man Captain C
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  and the the old crazy man and I wasn't that I was excited because I love
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  William shanon but I didn't realize how much I really would enjoy it until
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  honestly he walked in and I I went that's Captain Kirk like this is awesome
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  like he was what meters from us I'm like that is Captain we somehow scammed a
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  seat in the third row because they were marching Us in uh and filling from the
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  back forward and I don't know what happened Matt but we we saw your friends
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  who were already sitting in the front row and we just said to the girl oh
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  they're our friends and walked through and sat with them didn't say anything
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  cuz I think they had passes special passes somebody had yeah the the other
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  people around us had like Shanner experience they were sitting on their
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  own as the auditorium was being Filled from the back so they had something
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  special I do think filling from the back is pretty poor considering the people at
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  the front of the line were there first yeah true and some of those people may
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  have been waiting for quite some time well we'd been waiting for quite some
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  time regardless because we were standing where we thought the line was and then
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  we told about 5 minutes before it began oh this is not a line yeah this is just
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  a bunch of people who think this is the line when it's not and we haven't told
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  them that's right and we've been looking at you this whole time going exactly
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  they're just standing there staring at us like oh anyway but yeah he was
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  hilarious and it was kind of like um we've talked before about
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  Christopher Lloyd and how he was kind of old and seemed a bit scen and it was all
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  kind of a bit sad this was y in the same vein as that except he's not kind of the
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  sad without the sadness because he just doesn't care he just wants to talk about
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  what he wants to talk about and and you will listen to him and he was quite
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  honest about at the start he said look I I'll uh I'll hear your questions and
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  then I might answer to them but I will use them as a way of thinking of
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  something to talk about and that's exactly what he did he oh man he took
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  the question and whatever it reminded him of whether it was relevant or not he
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  talked about it there was at one point he started going on and on about his
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  back problemss because he said but then even went so far as to say I spoke to
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  someone in the line for autographs who is a back surgeon and it's is he here
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  somewhere yeah is he in the room and the guy put his hand up and he said oh there
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  he is I'll um and then proceeded to give him list of symptoms yeah and said cuz I
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  he said I ride horses uh do you guys know what whatever the kind of horse
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  riding is and everyone was like no and he's like oh let me explain and he went
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  this thing about this certain kind of horse riding that he does but then just
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  when you think he's going to come back on top he goes where was I oh that's
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  right my back and then goes back so this is not the question yeah this is just
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  okay I that is brilliant because most people ask stupid questions anyway it
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  didn't matter yeah it did not matter it and cuz it was funny anyway and um and
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  because someone asked him about Terror at 20,000 ft or nightmare nightmare at
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  20,000 ft or whatever it is yeah and which he got wrong every time he said it
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  yeah but he kept going on about how and he kept bringing it back up again and
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  you kept I hear you giggling every time he said it the the Czechoslovakian
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  acrobat on the wing yeah cuz he there there was a it was a
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  Czechoslovakian acrobat in a bear suit that was outside on the and every time
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  he said um something on the wing I could hear you have a little cackle as well
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  because like in my wildest fantasies
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  right I would somehow convince Shatner to say there's something on the wig some
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  he just kept saying it he said it about a dozen times you know what I mean like
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  I thought there's no way he's going to say it someone's going to ask him to say
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  it he's going to be like look that was a long time ago you know no he [ __ ] no
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  one asked him to say it yeah and even incidentally kep saying he's like
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  because the premise of the film is there's some thing on the wing yeah but
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  apparently what he loves to do is he loves to when he's flying on a plane
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  press the buzzer to call the stewardess over and then be staring out the window
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  and then when they arrive at his seat and say what what's the problem Mr
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  Shatner he goes there's something on the wing something yeah he said it he cracks
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  his kids up and they always make him do it so good but yeah he was [ __ ]
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  entertaining yeah also about three or four times in after
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  saying um acrobat he kept saying astronaut as well
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  right like his crazy story just kept
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  changing as went yeah yeah but it was kind of like like I said like with
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  Christopher Lloyd it was all a bit sad and like you could tell he was just lost
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  but shaton is just he was happy and he was he was it's kind of like yeah but I
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  think he propositioned that girl in the audience I forget her question yeah the
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  pretty girl yeah he goes you're really pretty and then he said look my back's
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  oh yeah that's right right at the moment but like once I've had the surgery that
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  guy's going to fix I'll be able to I'll be able to perform again yeah you got
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  two children up on stage which was actually ended up being kind of adorable
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  and hilarious yeah but see Emma corfield did that too right but in a really
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  creepy way see Shatner gets up this little like what was he 5 years old
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  right adorable kid loves Star Trek who gets up and he goes do you have a question
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  for me little boy the kid takes the mic wanders off and just starts spouting his
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  own dietr and it was hilarious then get then the kid calls his own sister up she
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  comes up and starts saying her own CU she was dressed as a red shirt like a
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  like an officer yeah like they both they're both dressed as like I think he
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  was dressed as um Kirk in his lounging outfit from from the show K on his day
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  off yeah the one the one that he Woos all the blue green skinn ladies in and
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  she was dressed as a red shirt it was adorable yeah but Emma
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  corfield is doing her speech then she sees someone in the front row and goes
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  oh do you want to do you want to come up on stage little boy and I'm expecting
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  something cute like like Shatner would later produce but um then this
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  13-year-old kid gets up this kind of lanky awkward looking teenager who
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  shrugs at the audience like I don't know what's going on um wanders over to her
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  and she like Pats her knee to like COA him to sit on her lap and um um and then
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  it's just this really awkward she answers the next few questions with this
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  dude sitting on her lap and then um I wonder if she's like Andy cman and it
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  was all like this is all just hilarious to her this I don't remember I remember
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  how the song goes was this kid dressed as anything or that's the thing he
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  wasn't handicapped he wasn't in costume he wasn't young he was just a dude I
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  really don't understand but good for him good for him yeah you got to sit next to
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  my mom's friend got you got to sit on her right on on right on yeah
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  weird but yeah it was a good day it was a good
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  day I'm upset I missed it but I really I inan camera and I didn't hear anything
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  about it except for you guys telling me about it I actually hadn't heard too
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  much about it um II Jenna reminded me that it was on and we yeah Jenna
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  reminded us yeah ex well that's I just I think someone on Facebook posted about
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  it that's how she saw it like it wasn't uh it wasn't like Supernova but I think
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  maybe Supernova we only know of because we go every year I don't know that
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  Supernova gets that much either does it and if you're listening and you're in
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  America and you're imagining San Diego com it's not it is not that it's
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  basically just Supernova with slightly I don't know slightly better
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  organized yeah it's like uh a it's like imagine half of the show floor it's
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  something like packs and that's it that's what it is and then there's a
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  spot where people can talk to fans do you remember when that got gu in
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  the suit got up to ask Shatner a question and Shatner recognized him and
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  went oh I know you and um I've read your book and I can't wait for your question
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  because it's you're an intelligent thought-provoking man and uh he actually
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  sat down on the chair and said I want I want to really listen to your question
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  and then the question was have you ever have you ever met Jeffrey Hunter's wife
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  that's right and Jeffrey Hunter being the guy who played Kirk in the pilot he
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  didn't say he said Jeffrey Archer and then and then he corrected him oh I think you
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  mean Jeffrey Hunter that's true
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  yeah which was great and he was like um yeah I
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  have yeah no didn't he say that he hadn't yeah perhaps I think that the the
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  the actual answer was no I don't know I don't know what you're talking about
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  ones where it didn't even go on a tangent it just kind of he explained to
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  the audience what the [ __ ] question was like he told why did people ask questions like
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  that yeah well the actually my favorite was the um the the man dressed as um
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  kind of random random Beetle random be yeah I think he was a specific beetle in
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  a in a terrible accent asking him if you could collaborate with any musician who
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  would it be oh yeah and then he went in this huge story about the one time he
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  got to play with um sorry the two times he got to play with uh for McCartney but
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  he kept calling him George he said it was a George George George no wait
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  John's dead is it George The Beatles are still alive alive that guy but then just
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  told this story about that without actually saying Paul mney Paul McCartney
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  yeah because he did um oh yeah told the story about lucing the Sky with Diamonds
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  and how how it's LSD and how actually that was a pretty great story and I
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  wanted to look up that performance about how he went on Johnny Carson and they
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  wouldn't let him do the um the book reading and the song and the book
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  reading kind of explained what the [ __ ] he was on about with the song um because
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  during the song he was he was in character as a drug addict singing Ling
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  the Sky with Diamonds and so he ended up on television just performing the song
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  pretending to be a drug addict as like and it was so everyone just thought he
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  did a terrible job of the song yeah and then uh and that's that's what ended up
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  going on television like I think that's a great story actually yeah I wonder why
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  that's no cuz the men's had several subsequent albums and maybe they're all
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  spoken word because of that cautionary tail exactly I want to look up that
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  performance so if if I find it I'll put it in uh the show notes if it's
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  interesting we we should have asked him to to do a bit of uh Rocket Man oh we should
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  have I wanted to ask him about Columbo said that I wanted to ask him
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  that's question go on he was on Columbo twice as completely different murderers two
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  different murderers and I wanted to ask him if he thought anybody was
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  fooled think he he was a different person and he was
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  in episodes of Twilight Zone and Alfred Hitchcock Presents which are very
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  similar shows as well right although not two different characters on the same
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  show I mean in his defense he's he's been in everything so true yeah nobody
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  asked him about was it TJ hooker right yeah oh I bet that kills him no
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  one asks him about it yeah he was on it for like 10 years like the whole 80s
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  that's what he was doing should we should have asked him
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  about that Telly movie he did with uh Cil sheeper where he played a husband I
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  think it's called Confessions of a married man have either of you seen this
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  I don't think so no I've seen it like no no joke like three or four times just
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  over the course of my entire life anytime it's like a Friday afternoon I
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  just happen to be flicking three channels this movie's been on and it's
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  about this married guy whose wife won't sleep with him so he starts going to
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  prostitutes right and um but then he falls in love with one prostitute who's
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  played by Cil Shephard and um but then she starts extorting him for money and
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  stuff right it's not it's not a comedy
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  it's like a it's like a solid
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  drama well yeah Billy Shatner B sh
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  [Music] [ __ ] well some news this week on the um
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  y oldi murder front or some some
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  apparent news um a gentleman claims that
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  through DNA testing he has revealed the identity of Jack the
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  Ripper after what 200 years 200 years is been 200
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  yet it's been a while 126 years6 yeah so
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  um yeah this guy claims but there's there's no statute of limitations on
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  murder as we know so that guy could still go to prison yeah exactly so why
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  don't you why don't you take us through the details well I'll start off by
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  saying if it sounds a bit dodgy it
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  is heavily debated yes so what's
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  happened this gentleman purchased at an auction
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  uh a Shaw like a a you know kind of
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  ladyes scarf kind of deal that allegedly
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  was taken from the crime scene of one of
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  the Rippers victims um Katherine edos um police officer allegedly took it
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  from the scene because back then they just didn't give a [ __ ] um and he
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  thought it would be nice for his wife so he took this blood soaked oh took it off
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  a dead prostitute oh I've got this for you love so it's covered in blood and
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  seam and just wash that off so he takes his because the well we'll get to that
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  but yeah it's it's covered in fluids of also I'll just also say there was
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  detailed listings of items found at each of the crime seas and that wasn't
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  mentioned in any no that's cuz he took it well no fair call Fair call but yeah
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  so this um this fluid soaked rag we'll say blood soaked because never yeah took
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  took it home to his wife and said there you go what do you think of that and she
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  went that's disgusting get it the [ __ ] away from for me and uh presumably put
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  it in the attic for for 100 years uh and
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  it got passed between various um
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  Ripper um enthusiasts with no one wanting to wash it apparently not and in
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  fact in fact the Seaman stains increasing over time yeah and uh and
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  then so this guy bought it an auction and uh I think through through a friend
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  of his managed to get some DNA tests running it and they found uh
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  Seaman belonging to a gentleman called Aaron
• 25:06
  kosminski uh who was a hairdresser well he sounds foreign so it's probably him
• 25:11
  yeah exactly and uh a Polish Polish immigrant sorry fact checking myself
• 25:18
  there um and so they're saying well that was him then
• 25:24
  proof I'll say this though right every
• 25:28
  it it's so boring it's probably true like I know there's no evidence but
• 25:34
  here's the thing like everyone's like who's Jack the Ripper is it the Earl of
• 25:37
  Oxford is it this other really famous guy is it the queen it's probably not
• 25:42
  it's probably just some deranged psychopath [ __ ] hairdresser it's
• 25:45
  either yeah it's one of these guys here the Sho maker The Barber or the
• 25:48
  hairdresser one of them yeah but it yeah
• 25:52
  the the science behind it is not that great I mean they this things been
• 25:58
  passed down for like you know 100 years between all these different people who
• 26:04
  handled it without gloves like he's the a another scientist who I think the guy
• 26:09
  who invented DNA profiling um commented and said it's already pointed out it's
• 26:13
  not a good sample no because you can see him in the photographs holding it like
• 26:19
  yeah he look at this article here which will be in the show notes and he's
• 26:22
  holding it with his fingers which you know if you want to get an accurate DNA
• 26:28
  not only that Matt not only that we're assuming though that that's
• 26:34
  even like go back to just the fact that there's Sean on a Shaw that was found at
• 26:41
  the house of a prostitute that's not really a stretch and it's certainly not
• 26:46
  proof of murder unless this prostitute was a novice who was murdered on her
• 26:53
  first day well what and the other thing the scientists saying is that like we
• 26:57
  know for for a fact that potentially hundreds of people have handled this
• 27:01
  since since it was allegedly taken from the crime scene like there's no evidence
• 27:06
  to suggest that it was because it's ridiculous who would take that home and
• 27:10
  give it to their to their wife like a blood and seman soaked rag from a crime
• 27:15
  scene oh this I thought this you haven't look you haven't been married yet Matt
• 27:18
  but when you are you'll you'll understand but not only that yeah he
• 27:24
  said like so many oh my God sorry I'm just I've just clicked on the link Matt
• 27:28
  and there's actually an old a year oldy engraving of the policeman reaching for
• 27:33
  the I know a contemporary engraving of a jack the rer crime scene that that's
• 27:39
  terrific pinching it but yeah and this guyy is saying that so many people have
• 27:43
  handled it that it's um uh highly likely that somebody with
• 27:48
  the same mitochondrial DNA which is what they they identified touched it because
• 27:54
  his ancestors would have been amongst the people interested you know what I
• 27:57
  mean like people who are related to him have touched it we're pretty sure also
• 28:04
  he might have touched it it doesn't make him a murderer that's true as well like
• 28:08
  even if all the evidence is true and the DNA does Point straight to this guy and
• 28:13
  this really was a Shaw and it really was in This Woman's house it doesn't mean
• 28:18
  that this guy's the murderer just looked at the top comment on this article and
• 28:23
  it says Poland did not exist in the time of Jack the Ripper you guys need a history lesson
• 28:31
  I'll say this just looking at the six Prime suspects though and they've got
• 28:34
  photos of them all I meanu down there on the bottom left I was about to say
• 28:40
  kosminsky looks like kind of maybe
• 28:43
  chaotic good but my money's on John
• 28:47
  piser the shoe maker who looks like a
• 28:51
  [ __ ] Maniac he looks like a resut he
• 28:55
  does he does in [ __ ] it might be he was still kicking around at that
• 28:59
  point wasn't he for all we know he's still kicking around yeah exactly yeah
• 29:03
  and I love how George Chapman Barber has the best that he's a Jew I don't want to
• 29:07
  get [ __ ] letters in saying oh Dan picked the [Laughter]
• 29:12
  Jew I like I love the photo of him pointing to the part of the shaw where
• 29:16
  the DNA was found and he's it's like his little pinky pointing at the seamen
• 29:20
  stain oh yeah little seamen stain on there yeah he gave that to his wife oh
• 29:23
  God it's more than a little stain too she love that little little jzy sorry
• 29:29
  have you have you given me a cumrag a lot of [ __ ] anyway but obviously but
• 29:35
  there literally there's an engraving oh yeah contemporary engraving like we
• 29:40
  still do Engravings of two Bobbies standing over the the dead body and one
• 29:45
  of them's reaching for the shore like like somebody who was there decided that
• 29:51
  to capture that moment brilliant now you've been to
• 29:55
  White trouble haven't you I have I did a tour of all the location
• 29:59
  yeah right how was that five wasn't there yeah
• 30:03
  yeah two on one night you learn anything uh I learned that all of the places
• 30:08
  don't exist anymore like um yeah you know the hotel room where they found
• 30:12
  Mary Kelly is you know the most gruesome of the murders she was like FL yeah
• 30:19
  basically um that's just an apartment building now so none of that none of
• 30:22
  that stuff is there so it's I mean it's interesting um something's got to be a
• 30:26
  Starbucks yeah and I saw the the place where they um you know where he wrote um
• 30:32
  the Jews are them that will not be blamed for nothing on the wall yeah
• 30:36
  whatever the [ __ ] that's supposed to mean uh he wrote down the wall and they
• 30:39
  misspelled Jews y yeah yeah j e Wes wasn't it spilled no that's correct oh
• 30:46
  he spilled it with a U or something I can't remember yeah I think I think it's
• 30:49
  j or something yeah yeah well that's a convenience store now but that's I mean
• 30:53
  it's still there and they they said that you know that's that's right where it
• 30:56
  was but it's it's not um it's cool but it's not like you're looking at the spot
• 31:01
  or anything like that it doesn't feel like you're there cuz it's just not the
• 31:05
  same city now oh and I went to the um I had a beer in the um the pub uh's it
• 31:10
  called the the 10 Bells where the girls drank um the you know all of the I think
• 31:15
  it's called The Knife and hooker yeah the the the kidney and and
• 31:20
  in my pocket with the kidney um oh yeah that's another thing apparently uh I
• 31:24
  read recently uh an article that said they think actually that there weren't
• 31:30
  organs taken by the Ripper they were misplaced due to negligence um during
• 31:35
  autopsies and whatnot um but one of the um one of the pieces of evidence they
• 31:41
  mention in this article is that they found a kidney cell and one of um this
• 31:47
  woman um uh forgot her name edos um her kidney
• 31:53
  was missing but now I'm like well that's that didn't they just say that the
• 31:59
  police lost that so I don't know you know what we're never going to know Arin somewhere
• 32:05
  there's probably a ye oldy engraving of a of a old timey copper eating a kidney
• 32:10
  right and then wiping his mouth with this bloody Seaman stoked Seaman soaked
• 32:17
  Shaw that's a tongue twister say Seaman Sean soaked Shaw soaked and it will can
• 32:23
  that be the name of this episode or it not let us put that up we can put fluid
• 32:28
  soaked rag or something like that it's it's just as it's just as
• 32:33
  awful um it'll surprise nobody to know to learn that this man has a book coming
• 32:40
  out to with all his um his supporting
• 32:43
  evidence so uh you know buy that I guess
• 32:47
  or don't don't because it's it's it's nonsense I'm pretty sure it's a pretty
• 32:52
  much everything he said is on the internet for free yeah and B don't don't
• 32:57
  get it no and uh and the last sentence here which I like cuz this is the Daily
• 33:01
  Mail obviously like he couldn't get a uh this is the world exclusive the world
• 33:08
  exclusive of this was on The Daily Mail so that tell that should tell you
• 33:11
  something actually that that brings me up to a a really quick little Rat Hole
• 33:16
  sure would you mind of course not go for it I'd like to just um I'm addressing
• 33:20
  our listeners directly now okay so
• 33:26
  people uh you know it's it's 9:30 a.m. you've got your coffee you've arrived at
• 33:31
  work you're sitting down and you're logging into Facebook
• 33:35
  right someone's put up an article that's just [ __ ] blown your mind about
• 33:41
  something that is just astounding M before you post that on your Facebook
• 33:47
  wall with oh my God this changes everything do a quick Google search to
• 33:53
  see if that's a real article because
• 33:58
  if it's too good to be true or just doesn't seem like it could possibly be
• 34:03
  real it's probably not Y and I would like to stop I I would
• 34:09
  like to declutter my [ __ ] Facebook live feed from all these fake articles
• 34:15
  with real comments on them yeah like the onion that the Onion articles and things
• 34:20
  like that yeah stop posting onion videos with disgusted comments you I one thing
• 34:26
  I there's a few things pissing me off lately one of them I haven't mentioned
• 34:31
  this to you to you guys yet this is a new segment called Umbridge go
• 34:35
  on all right we can talk about the ones that I've already winged to you about on
• 34:38
  email today if you want that's fine too all right well this is this is different
• 34:42
  [ __ ] articles where the uh on Facebook and and anywhere where the
• 34:46
  headline is he tried to open the door with a banana and when you find out why
• 34:50
  you'll burst into tears [ __ ] off yeah
• 34:55
  like Matt what you should do right now right is go to Twitter right and follow
• 35:00
  a guy called saved you a click okay and what he does is he goes through all
• 35:07
  those clickbait articles and gives you the answer see like for example the
• 35:12
  latest one is called so he'll put the headline and then the answer so the the
• 35:16
  one that I read today was the headline is why no one will be lining up for the
• 35:20
  eyewatch and he's just put the answer it's not called the
• 35:25
  eyat you know what I mean and he just [ __ ] cut I like this one why you
• 35:29
  two's surprise new album won't appear on the Billboard charts because Apple
• 35:32
  bought it for you yeah exactly yeah which is another thing that pisses me
• 35:38
  off actually that's a good segue right are we going to talk about you too
• 35:41
  people well I don't want to talk about you too I want to talk about people
• 35:44
  complaining that they get this album for free like oh I didn't ask for it I don't
• 35:48
  [ __ ] off right don't listen to it I don't like you to either and not
• 35:52
  listening to them works just fine like don't listen and do you know how much
• 35:56
  free content falls into into your lap every day on the internet that you just
• 35:59
  ignore ignore this to yeah like to the like I didn't even realize that had been
• 36:03
  a thing until you brought it up and then I checked my iPhone and sure enough
• 36:07
  there's a YouTu album that I didn't think I had people were complaining oh I
• 36:10
  didn't ask for that shut up like who cares if for once you actually got
• 36:17
  something for free yeah just accept it if you don't want it who cares I don't
• 36:21
  seem to be able to delete it though I'll say that well it gets added to your
• 36:25
  Cloud Library right it's it's a minor in venience are best though isn't it come
• 36:29
  on like it's a free [ __ ] album whether you like it or not don't and
• 36:33
  really how often do you get down to you when you're looking at an arti exactly
• 36:38
  yeah I I only do because half the time I try to start from the
• 36:42
  bottom ah it's it's the L's and M's and n's that never that I never get to
• 36:47
  because I start at one end or the other and the one other thing I wanted to talk
• 36:50
  about that's been bugging me lately is all the um the trigger warnings that are
• 36:55
  at the start of every article that's about something remotely sensitive where
• 37:00
  apparently they're worried that somebody who has been affected by whatever the
• 37:04
  article is about be it murder or rape or abuse or whatever is going to you know
• 37:09
  be trauma triggered and have some kind of horrible flashback um based on the
• 37:14
  content of the article and yeah that's hor I don't think that's how trauma
• 37:17
  flashbacks no I'm pretty sure a trauma like they can be triggered by anything
• 37:22
  like a smell or an object or a sound like a song that was playing when a man
• 37:26
  was beating you to death like like you can't just put a [ __ ] warning on
• 37:30
  everything if you're going to put it on it's just silly but the thing the thing
• 37:33
  I find weird about that one is people know what they're clicking on when
• 37:36
  they're clicking on the article you would think so so there would be a title
• 37:38
  that would be leading them somewhere and yeah reading about that isn't likely to
• 37:44
  trigger somebody I'm sure I've read something about that like that's not how
• 37:49
  it works it's it's the little things you know it's tiny things like people go oh
• 37:54
  okay you know a smell of gasoline always brings me back to that because he raped
• 37:58
  me in the back of a petrol station things like that it's not literally
• 38:01
  articles on the internet about rape take me right back there exactly so I don't
• 38:05
  know I mean it doesn't it doesn't matter it's just when I see them I kind of go
• 38:09
  ah do we are we are we doing this are we pandering to this I'm a bit I'm I'm a
• 38:14
  bit iffy on that though on what
• 38:17
  sorry I I don't know I'm just it's it could still reading about it could
• 38:23
  actually still affect some do we have to do that for everything then well no but
• 38:28
  I guess Playing devil's advocate people do talk about touchy subjects with a
• 38:34
  complete lack of decorum on the internet yeah that's true I
• 38:39
  suppose uh so maybe maybe that's valid to a point but
• 38:45
  I do tend to agree that it's kind of political correctness if it's well if
• 38:48
  it's a news article about a murder and you've escaped narrowly escaped a murder
• 38:53
  and you're having posttraumatic stress stress syndrome you know post the PTSD
• 38:58
  PTSD don't read articles about murders it's as simple as that you would
• 39:05
  think I don't know yeah I don't know I mean like I said it
• 39:09
  doesn't affect me it's just I see it and I kind of go ah do we have to do that
• 39:14
  that seems look speaking of stuff on the internet are we going to talk about
• 39:19
  katus as boobs I guess we are okay I'm confused what's happening with Katniss's
• 39:24
  boobs what have You' been living in a cave who's Kus Katniss is Jennifer
• 39:30
  Lawrence okay you know about that and yes boobs are the uh the memmory glands
• 39:36
  attached to the chest of female mammals if you want to see them just search for
• 39:42
  Jennifer Lawrence you'll find them if you want to see some no look
• 39:48
  we're just a disclaimer here we're not we're not condoning no of course not the
• 39:51
  hacking of people's uh private photos AB but no I I did think it was worth
• 39:56
  mentioning just because this phenomenon that was as Reddit as dubbed
• 40:03
  it the fppening MH um is it's just one of those things that just
• 40:09
  exploded H bad words um that that was
• 40:15
  literally all anybody could talk about for about 48 hours and
• 40:20
  then instantly forgot yeah quietly went away I thought the um the most
• 40:26
  interesting thing about it to me was that it wasn't like her account got
• 40:31
  hacked and then these pictures got posted or even that all of these
• 40:35
  people's accounts were hacked and then they all got posted no people have had
• 40:38
  these photos for years and there is a
• 40:43
  sub kind of sub internet um community
• 40:46
  that trades them and to to join you have
• 40:50
  to collect some celebrities nudes and then you can kind of be led into the
• 40:55
  club and they don't sell them or anything it's like the mafia you got to
• 40:58
  kill someone to get in yeah and then uh apparently what's happened is somebody
• 41:03
  has managed to get in there found all this stuff and and tried to sell it and
• 41:09
  um and that's why all of these because um Mary Elizabeth winsteads was was
• 41:14
  talking about how the photos of her that were turned up were deleted years ago
• 41:20
  and um and people and she she at the time tweeted I think something about
• 41:24
  discusting the lengths they must have gone to to recover those well they
• 41:27
  didn't they got them back when you and just have had them since then and I
• 41:31
  think that is kind of terrifying epy that is disturbing that that's that's
• 41:37
  well here's the thing because the guy who leaked them
• 41:40
  obviously got himself into that group uh and then you know it just went to his
• 41:46
  head and he thought I'm just going to exploit this for my own
• 41:49
  benefit uh but I would assume that putting a bunch of them on the Internet
• 41:54
  for free and then threatening that he has more that he'll uh sell to the
• 42:00
  highest bidder I mean is that a solid business
• 42:04
  model no because what actually happened was all the other people that had them
• 42:09
  said we we've got them too we'll give you them for less and then it was a race
• 42:12
  to the bottom and uh I think apparently yeah like I obviously news people
• 42:18
  weren't going to pay for them cuz it's not like they can't because because
• 42:22
  that's what it's illegal for yeah somebody was saying you know like people
• 42:25
  they'll pay $40,000 for a photo of Jennifer Lawrence kissing her boyfriend
• 42:29
  at a at an event so they can put in a magazine but if you hack her phone and
• 42:34
  take pictures of her off there they're not going to touch them yeah because that's
• 42:41
  illegal yeah so all these other ones they were going to be making money it
• 42:45
  was going to be making money from just anyone they're not going to be paying
• 42:49
  big money for it that's right like TMZ is not going to put up nude pictures of these
• 42:54
  celebrities no although I did think it was funny that TMZ specifically and and
• 42:59
  all those other guys as well um all these news sites put up censored
• 43:04
  versions of the pictures on the first day with headlines like look what's been
• 43:09
  leaked online Y and then pull them all down when the internet turned on yeah
• 43:15
  and the next day all the headlines were like oh isn't it awful that these have
• 43:19
  been put online and you know isn't it awful even that
• 43:24
  new sites have been encouraging them by put putting the pictures in their
• 43:28
  articles it is interesting that that it went that way cuz often you know when
• 43:34
  photos of people leak it doesn't it's not you know kind of shamed as much as
• 43:38
  this was like this was pretty pretty widely condemned yeah they copped it
• 43:42
  pretty quick and I think it's because
• 43:48
  like uh Jennifer Lawrence like she's just she's just not a [ __ ] do you know
• 43:53
  what I mean like she's not it's like it's not she's not Pamela Anderson like
• 43:57
  and you know no judgment but like like if you want to see her
• 44:03
  boobs I mean she's she's naked and painted blue in the X-Men movies right
• 44:07
  right do you know what I mean like she she she works out and takes care of
• 44:10
  herself she's got a great body but like she she's just not sexualized and this
• 44:17
  unnecessarily sexualizes her and that kind of put everyone off a little bit
• 44:21
  yeah yeah I know what you mean it's not like they're in Playboy or anything it's
• 44:25
  kind of like yeah exactly yeah yeah was a bit
• 44:30
  uncomfortable yeah yeah it was like well and I was going to say it was like
• 44:34
  watching just a private moment but it was watching a [ __ ] private moment
• 44:37
  right yeah yeah and then then people were saying well if you're a celebrity
• 44:41
  you shouldn't shouldn't be uploading your photos and uh well they don't
• 44:46
  necessarily do that because [ __ ] iPhones do that automatically if you've
• 44:50
  got your settings wrong and and she wasn't holding the
• 44:53
  camera so maybe maybe there's a a very good maybe there's another lesson to be
• 44:58
  learned there as well yeah don't let other people take photos of you if you're a
• 45:04
  celebrity looked fantastic Luke are you googling those
• 45:10
  now no I'm not L Luke I'll Google them later speaking of
• 45:17
  iPhones uploading things there's a new iPhone coming out
• 45:22
  there is and what are they up to now six and uh it's the
• 45:27
  of a small truck they've dropped they've [ __ ] lost it like like honestly I was
• 45:34
  concerned with the iPhone 5 and I adjusted to the extra
• 45:39
  height but this one's even bigger what the [ __ ] are they doing it's it's about
• 45:45
  the size maybe a bit bigger than the Nexus 4 which is the phone I had and I
• 45:49
  mean I'm okay with that size but it is is big and I that's it's literally not
• 45:53
  going to fit in my pocket well that's the iPhone 6 there's also the iPhone 6
• 45:57
  plus which is even bigger like is that like the Samsung thing yeah it's kind of
• 46:03
  like that like a mini ta cuz they um CU they
• 46:09
  here's the thing like they just didn't sell it to any you know like there was
• 46:13
  it's just it all just came across as well the other other companies have
• 46:17
  these big phones so I guess we got to do big phones now it's kind of it's
• 46:21
  complete opposite of what they were doing when when they had Steve
• 46:25
  Jobs like
• 47:27
  yeah I had one of those I know wasn't that when they were starting
• 47:31
  to fail that's when he came back when he pulled them out of Lally resurrected
• 47:37
  them yeah when they wanted a a cheap easy to use computer they could get on
• 47:44
  the internet speaking of Resurrection we have a Kickstarter that is very relevant
• 47:50
  to this discussion that's true let's discuss that and then I have one more point
• 47:55
  about the iPhone okay all right so all right well very quickly then uh we have
• 48:00
  a Kickstarter no take your time okay well we have a Kickstarter uh I mean I'd
• 48:05
  like to I'd like to ask Steve Jobs what he thinks of uh of the iPhone 6 the
• 48:09
  iPhone 6 Plus and the Apple watch so um couldn't have come at a better time M um
• 48:15
  and you can actually do that if you were to um pay $20 for a kickstar Matt that's
• 48:20
  right well I don't I don't think I have to pay $20 invest invest $20 yeah invest
• 48:26
  so because it an investment we decided that there are so many questions yet to
• 48:30
  be asked of Steve that we just going to have to summon him and um and ask him so
• 48:37
  we're going to raise some money get a Ouija board and some camera equipment
• 48:41
  and some lights and stuff and ask Steve's ghost a bunch of
• 48:47
  questions um and if you think that's worthwhile and I'm assuming you do
• 48:52
  because you're not an idiot uh you can head on over to our Kickstarter and get
• 48:56
  involved so we've got obviously a bunch of different reward tiers if you want to
• 49:01
  submit a qu question uh any question we will ask the ghost of Steve Jobs your
• 49:05
  question no matter what it is because we don't care um and yeah our filters are
• 49:12
  broken so just ask what you want yeah and uh challenges Y and we've got some
• 49:18
  T-shirts and hoodies and uh and some other stuff on there if that interests
• 49:22
  you you can ask a question and get a t-shirt or ask a question and get a
• 49:25
  hoodie or whatever whatever you like I think the really good one is if you pay
• 49:29
  as $500 you can come and be on the set right you can yeah because our goal is
• 49:33
  $500 because we're not we're not trying to be greedy we just think this would be
• 49:36
  a fun thing to do and we're trying to we just want to do it and we want to do a
• 49:39
  good job of it and we haven't even budget it for lunch on the day no that's
• 49:43
  right we're just going to use the money we used to hire some gear and um to get
• 49:46
  some some artwork and and titles and stuff done for make it just make it a
• 49:49
  good quality video which which will be made available on
• 49:53
  YouTube uh simple as that yeah and so it's it's going to be fun and you know
• 49:58
  there's always a chance look if you don't think that the that communicating
• 50:01
  with the ghost of Steve Jobs is worth 20 yeah exactly [ __ ] off and I don't
• 50:07
  want you listening to this podcast you don't even have you don't have to put in
• 50:09
  20 you can put in as much as you want you can put in a dollar for all for all
• 50:13
  week here every every dollar comp [ __ ] off a dollar if you put in a dollar
• 50:18
  every dollar counts cents don't count dollars count every group every group of
• 50:23
  10 or more dollars counts let's say that fine fine but uh yeah I think what's the um well
• 50:30
  for $5 their name will appear That's yeah $5 gets your name in the credits
• 50:33
  come on $5 for this this
• 50:37
  [ __ ] momentous occasion I just I'm actually shocked by how much money we've
• 50:42
  raised already I just loaded up I just loaded up the page and I was like oh wow
• 50:47
  we're we're $160 nice in uh of our $500 gold we got
• 50:52
  25 days to go I reckon we can make it I re re we're fine uh but we need your
• 50:58
  help yes we do so I'm still talking to you listener that's right all of you and
• 51:04
  you can be sitting there with your headphones go it's not me it's not I am
• 51:08
  talking to you yes yes you even if you just just head over to the kickstarter
• 51:13
  and check out the [ __ ] awesome artwork that Simon cole has done for us
• 51:18
  like just he justes even that you he deserves your your eyeballs on his
• 51:23
  wonderful artwork yeah give Simon your
• 51:27
  balls give Simon your balls he will look after them and then give us money cuz we
• 51:33
  can use that money to pay him yeah that's not in the budget though
• 51:37
  either yeah oh there is a little bit of money for him in there oh well he
• 51:42
  deserves it yeah he does because he's done lots of stuff for us for no money
• 51:46
  yeah yeah we should pay at least once so yeah thanks Simon you're a champ
• 51:51
  y so I summon the Simon is The Unofficial fifth member of this podcast
• 51:57
  is so I summon the best way to speak to the ghost of Steve
• 52:03
  Jobs if you are going to speak to the ghost of Steve Jobs anyway this might
• 52:09
  even save you some money that's right because well we haven't mentioned this
• 52:14
  yet because I mean once we as we approach the goal we're going to reveal
• 52:18
  uh the stretch goals which we have which yeah if we do happen to make over our
• 52:22
  Bud important stretch goals we have some we have some good stretch goals so I
• 52:25
  mean I don't want to say too much um because you know we'll see how we go and
• 52:29
  and we'll kind of reveal those later on but we are investigating um getting some
• 52:36
  paranormal uh people involved like uh Clairvoyant and um possibly some people
• 52:43
  to come and you know channel the spirit of Steve Jobs rather than using a Ouija
• 52:48
  board we've got there's lots many things we could do it all depends on uh what
• 52:52
  you the listeners want so
• 52:57
  yeah and obviously we'll ask him about the iPhone 6 and uh and the Apple watch
• 53:03
  as well yeah uh see what he thinks of that can tell you already he's not
• 53:09
  impressed and whether the Apple Macintosh was named after an episode of
• 53:13
  get smart which is the original question that started this whole thing yeah which
• 53:17
  if there's time we'll ask him [Laughter]
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  [Music]
• 53:24
  yeah Destiny came out and I got it uh and I have played a little bit but I
• 53:30
  actually haven't played past the point I got up to in the beta so I finished it
• 53:36
  that doesn't surprise me I was goingon to say I don't have a whole lot to say
• 53:38
  but I guess you do so uh is there an end isn't an an
• 53:43
  MMO I finished I believe I finished the main story how long did it take you to
• 53:48
  do that um not long at all um maybe 6 8
• 53:54
  hours um I have no idea what the story is no idea what's happen maybe you haven't
• 53:59
  finished it then L well but there's nothing else to do now it's just going
• 54:05
  missions yeah but that's to get better gear 20 bear claws I think uh yeah
• 54:09
  exactly well the story line is that there was uh we found that big what's it
• 54:15
  called the guardian or whatever on Mars and uh accelerated
• 54:21
  our um expansion into space you know Mass Effect style and then we met up
• 54:26
  with these other races and then we expanded and it was a golden age and
• 54:29
  then the darkness came and [ __ ] everything up and now the only remaining
• 54:33
  City that's safe is um is on Earth and that's the city that's in the game and
• 54:39
  then you can go you start out in Russia and expand from there and I think the
• 54:44
  story is stop the darkness you walk around and shoot
• 54:50
  people and then you get gear and then you walk around and shoot people and
• 54:53
  then you get new gear and then you walk around and shoot people that's every
• 54:56
  game yeah that's right I A lot of people are complaining about that but that what did you
• 55:00
  expect I mean I don't know I a lot more
• 55:04
  thumbs down thumbs down me okay yeah I mean I'm still enjoying it but I've like
• 55:09
  I said I'm I'm haven't gotten past the point I got up to in the beta
• 55:14
  yet I know I just I was looking for because Bungie theyve like with Halo
• 55:18
  they made a it was a great story great Universe they created and hopefully
• 55:22
  they've got a lot more plannned because because I'm the opposite I played
• 55:25
  through Halo 1 two and three I couldn't tell you what the storyline
• 55:29
  was was stupid John Halo going about his day yeah like I I none of that I didn't
• 55:35
  retain any of that it just all was I don't know I quite honestly didn't even
• 55:40
  know Halo had a story I thought it was just shooting no no I actually quite like the
• 55:46
  story in Halo especially like ODST and Halo Reach Destiny I just I I think it
• 55:52
  is because I don't like MMOs yeah well it's not really an MMO oh you just don't
• 55:55
  like the fact there's other people there is that well no other people aren't
• 56:00
  bothering me at all cuz I'm not playing with them but it's just it's like real
• 56:05
  life it's designed to be an MMO where you are playing with people and you oh I
• 56:10
  know you well maybe that's why you're not getting the most out of the game
• 56:13
  it's because you're not playing it like it's designed to be played yeah i' play
• 56:17
  it the way I would yeah did you have you been in any have you did you join in any
• 56:21
  of the um public events and all that kind of stuff while you yeah yeah I
• 56:25
  thought I found that was fun yeah I've done a few of them they were cool
• 56:28
  just sounds like too much effort to me one of the valid complaints I've heard
• 56:33
  is what my complaints on no no that's not what I was saying what I mean I I
• 56:38
  read this in an article today and I was like oh okay yeah that's that's fair um
• 56:42
  games like Halo where they they are single player or you know like Co-op um
• 56:47
  the enemies are placed very carefully so that the combat is strategic and and
• 56:53
  interesting whereas in a game like Destiny where it is kind of massively
• 56:57
  multiplayer the enemies respawn and so
• 57:00
  the combat is very simplified because of that like it's not like they can't be as
• 57:07
  clever as as they normally would you know like in in Halo you can run around
• 57:11
  a corner and have an ambush that's kind of scripted a bit and set up and it and
• 57:16
  it's kind of a bit more interesting whereas in this you know you could
• 57:21
  actually walk around a corner and sometimes there might be aliens there or
• 57:24
  Monsters but someone else may have so it's it's just all a bit
• 57:28
  less yeah less clever in that sense than people were expecting from Bungie but
• 57:33
  then again that's not their fault that's just the nature of the game like that's
• 57:37
  well it is their fault well it's their fault in that they chose to make a
• 57:40
  massively multiplayer online game yes like the game not was good but
• 57:46
  it's not it's not up to it's not up to them to make a good game no
• 57:50
  exactly well I haven't played it at all needless to say and I'm probably not
• 57:54
  going digl is digl gives you some hints on how to play and there's a lot of all
• 57:59
  right I'll give him a ring there there's a lot there's a lot of uh can wait P
• 58:04
  Dinklage does a voice in it yeah he's the voice of your little AI companion
• 58:08
  then let oh okay he's an AI yeah okay that answers my question you don't get
• 58:14
  to see him you want I was going to ask I was going to ask if he voices small
• 58:17
  character or a you know a fully sized character no he doesn't but he doesn't
• 58:24
  they they they scoot it around that yeah that sensitive issue yeah
• 58:31
  um I I I was a bit bored this week and I I wanted to play something and I was I
• 58:35
  was at JB High fight and I saw cuz you guys know that I just really love the
• 58:40
  Hitman Series right like cuz I you have to play it slow and calculated and
• 58:46
  stealthily and that's how I play games anyway so I really love Hitman and then
• 58:50
  I noticed that there was a um a pack with kind of the the original Hitman
• 58:55
  game um kind of redone in HD and I picked
• 59:01
  that up and I couldn't wait to play it and then I I play a few retro games
• 59:07
  right and some really old and I find them really enjoyable but it's easier to
• 59:10
  play a game that's 20 years old than a game that's five or six years old do you
• 59:16
  know what I mean like I had to stop playing these and I'm I'm actually just
• 59:20
  playing through um Absolution again
• 59:24
  because the old Hitman games are just so
• 59:28
  clunky compared to the new ones that uh
• 59:31
  it's just so hard to go back yeah yeah have you ever encountered that oh yeah yeah
• 59:38
  um well particularly if I go back and try and play some games on emulators
• 59:43
  like old old games like they're unplayable yeah yeah I actually even
• 59:48
  remember this has been a problem I had even when it was um when even the
• 59:52
  original PlayStation came out there was a game I used to like called jungle
• 59:56
  strike or oh the helicopter yeah yeah you used to play that all the time on
• 1:00:02
  the sear or the Super Nintendo they also released it on the PlayStation and once
• 1:00:07
  I played on that I couldn't go back and play the old ones yeah
• 1:00:10
  yeah yeah well and also I mean anything that's on um the original Xbox or I
• 1:00:16
  think the PlayStation um P these games on PS2 yeah
• 1:00:22
  they still they were still kind of the the dodgy 3D generation the PlayStation
• 1:00:28
  one is obviously the worst the play Playstation One games are like at that
• 1:00:33
  point where like the Super Nintendo and the the mega drive or the Genesis for
• 1:00:36
  our overseas listeners those games still look good yeah where and then you skip
• 1:00:42
  to the PlayStation and the N64 even to a degree and although N64 they kind of put
• 1:00:49
  effort into not making them look [ __ ] making them not look [ __ ] rather um but
• 1:00:54
  yeah Playstation One games in particular just look awful
• 1:00:56
  because it's like bad 3D games yeah and
• 1:01:01
  terrible controls like actually one of my favorite games of all time is um
• 1:01:06
  Silent Hill 2 oh yeah [ __ ] the controls go back and play it the controls are so
• 1:01:12
  awful and and the first game's even worse yeah but well the first game was
• 1:01:18
  PS1 yes exactly yeah yep yeah terrible but again and there's a game called Rule
• 1:01:24
  of Rose which is actually I think um band in Australia playing in the garden
• 1:01:28
  no it's about you're a school teacher and you
• 1:01:31
  um uh the you get off a bus the bus breaks down and you get off and then but
• 1:01:37
  then he drives off and he leaves you at this orphanage which is been taken over
• 1:01:42
  by the children and uh it's all creepy and um it's it's very Silent Hill in
• 1:01:49
  that that's not really what's happening but it all you have flashbacks to like
• 1:01:54
  the 1800s and stuff at the orphanage and and then you fight creepy monsters and
• 1:02:00
  stuff it's it's a really cool game but the controls are [ __ ] [Music]
• 1:02:05
  terrible well I'll just quickly mention um I watched or we watched the new
• 1:02:10
  Godzilla uh have any of you guys seen that no yes I have uh I liked
• 1:02:16
  it um question did you feel anything for
• 1:02:20
  that family at all no and also I thought my mean issue with
• 1:02:27
  was the story line like they tried to focus so much on the the human aspect of
• 1:02:32
  it but the story line was ridiculous like oh really yeah I mean I mean
• 1:02:38
  clearly it is because it's about giant monsters but even then they they just
• 1:02:41
  kind of skip over [ __ ] like uh they go from you know this this this horrible
• 1:02:47
  disaster at the start and that was all really the start of it built up really
• 1:02:50
  well and then uh was the horrible disaster Godzilla no no and that's why
• 1:02:56
  that's it was interesting it's not Godzilla it's something else it's it's
• 1:02:59
  the Fukushima plant and then uh sort of
• 1:03:03
  and then something else happens and then they're like before Godzilla even
• 1:03:09
  turns up they're like have any Godzilla was here he could sort this out and it's
• 1:03:14
  like wait what and then so this guy's like yeah cuz Godzilla is the good guy
• 1:03:19
  and this guy's like oh yeah no we're pretty sure Godzilla's um here to
• 1:03:22
  restore balance like what the [ __ ] does that mean what do you mean restore balance
• 1:03:26
  and then Godzilla shows up which they wanted and then they start shooting at
• 1:03:31
  him and I'm like what the [ __ ] is going on like so this is only one guy only one
• 1:03:37
  guy wanted him to show no they they all did didn't they they were all like oh
• 1:03:40
  Godzilla's here hooray just the one s side I got the impression they all in on
• 1:03:45
  it they were all like yeah all right no but the one thing I didn't like cuz I
• 1:03:50
  had the whole family separated and all this that was trying to move the story
• 1:03:53
  along I did not care about this out I want to see Godzilla fight and when you
• 1:03:58
  did see him fight it was excellent and I thought oh man I wish I'd seen more of
• 1:04:03
  that but then on the other hand maybe the fact that I didn't see it made it
• 1:04:07
  that much better because the fights in Pacific Rim did get a bit
• 1:04:12
  old yeah where and because Pacific Rim was just all like yep you can you can
• 1:04:17
  see as much of this monster punching robot stuff as you want whereas in this
• 1:04:21
  it was very much like you get a glimpse of stuff and then it's was like ah a
• 1:04:26
  [ __ ] show me that again and then and then eventually there was a big payoff
• 1:04:30
  and I think it it possibly worked better
• 1:04:34
  because because of the blue balls that that I had from just trying to see what
• 1:04:39
  [ __ ] Godzilla looked like it's a Jaws syndrome yeah yeah yeah yeah a bit like
• 1:04:43
  that yeah because even when Godzilla's doing stuff and then you're like oh cool
• 1:04:47
  and then someone shuts the door it's like don't shut the door I want to see
• 1:04:49
  what he's doing like I'll just leave you to it goodz yeah oh I better shut the
• 1:04:54
  door I don't want I don't want to see this like [ __ ] open the door so I can see
• 1:04:58
  him he's punching [ __ ] yeah but yeah I I did like it I
• 1:05:02
  just yeah like like you said I didn't care about the family that much I
• 1:05:05
  thought that was pretty I don't know they just weren't handled that well and
• 1:05:10
  it was all just a bit I don't know the storyline I thought was a
• 1:05:14
  bit silly well like you said I I mistakenly thought that uh that they all
• 1:05:19
  wanted Godzilla to show up and that's why I couldn't understand why how they
• 1:05:22
  know about Godzilla is this literally a sequel to the Matthew br no no it's not
• 1:05:26
  it's just that they um they do mention
• 1:05:28
  that he was he showed up once uh in the
• 1:05:33
  the like in Japan in the 50s yeah they I forget when exactly when they were doing
• 1:05:39
  nuclear tests they weren't tests they were trying to kill
• 1:05:42
  Godzilla ah um yeah and he it's kind of
• 1:05:46
  like he'll show up and and stop this stuff um but he wrecks the city and we
• 1:05:52
  just kind of have to deal with that yeah he's like the Hulk yeah basically yeah
• 1:05:56
  like oh he'll come and he'll he'll deal with this because we can't um but we're
• 1:06:01
  gonna have to ride off have to ride off a city or two San FR well that's
• 1:06:04
  Superman now as well Superman just [ __ ] destroys [ __ ] yeah it was very much like
• 1:06:09
  that can I just say like I'm a little
• 1:06:12
  bit over cities being destroyed I know oh in real life like and I don't mean
• 1:06:17
  that from some kind of like philosophical point of view I'm just
• 1:06:22
  bored of looking at it yeah yeah like like n of the Living Dead Right was
• 1:06:28
  people [ __ ] locked in a house with [ __ ] outside and it was thrilling okay
• 1:06:33
  we didn't need to se zombies destroy the world you know what I mean and now
• 1:06:37
  you've got Z's for zombie is that what it's called Z's for Zombie World War Z World War
• 1:06:42
  Z Z for zombie is the kids version yeah that's right World War Z where you
• 1:06:48
  literally see [ __ ] millions of zombies like [ __ ] destroying the
• 1:06:51
  world and it's like it's just not as interesting yeah yeah I know what you mean like it's
• 1:06:56
  it's kind of like you know I was saying with Pacific Rim it was just all there
• 1:07:00
  to see and it's kind of like oh it's a bit bit numbing and like Superman man is
• 1:07:03
  still like the action in that was just mind- noming like it was just not that
• 1:07:07
  cool by the end of it yeah just oh more of more of this I think it will start to
• 1:07:11
  disappear shortly I think all it is and this happens a lot they find out they've
• 1:07:15
  got the technology to do this and make it look realistic and they go crazy with
• 1:07:19
  it for while yeah yeah then they get bored with it and then I'll move on to
• 1:07:22
  the next yeah because it just stops meaning anything like they've [ __ ]
• 1:07:26
  hitting each other with satellites and [ __ ] man of steel is ridicul and I was
• 1:07:29
  just like okay all right this is not as steel was appalling though the the only
• 1:07:34
  thing that I really thought was good about Man of Steel were the scenes where
• 1:07:40
  he was a kid growing up yeah with Kevin Co with Kevin Cosner like and I can't
• 1:07:43
  believe I'm saying that like you know mean I can't believe I'm saying the best
• 1:07:46
  part of a movie was Kevin Co also like scenes with Kevin Co even his his mom
• 1:07:51
  later on was pretty cool and he rocks up in his Superman gear and then she's like
• 1:07:54
  oh hey son that stuff was cool yeah but like all
• 1:08:00
  the fights all the stunts all of that awful yeah got it just and anything with
• 1:08:05
  the lowest Lane could be cut out and you know it's not that they were they were
• 1:08:09
  too they weren't explosive or big enough they were too big and they were they
• 1:08:13
  were too ridiculous and it just like it loses all Impact there's a point of
• 1:08:18
  diminishing return yeah exactly yeah where and and then if you watched the um
• 1:08:24
  Little Shop of Horrors special edition yet no I have we got it sitting out
• 1:08:29
  there we've not watched I won't say anything else but all right watch it
• 1:08:34
  cool um while we're on superheroes real quick though uh Zack Snider has released
• 1:08:41
  a picture of the Batmobile oh yeah yeah yeah I really really thought that this
• 1:08:45
  was going to be a return to form and the Batmobile was going to go back to being
• 1:08:48
  a car again but it's not it's another tank and I couldn't be more disappointed
• 1:08:54
  yeah but that man supposed to have a cool car that's that's the thing he has
• 1:08:58
  a cool car he doesn't drive a tank yeah this thing's got a big [ __ ]
• 1:09:04
  Cannon mounted on the front of it [ __ ] what's that for he doesn't well
• 1:09:08
  actually I was going to say he doesn't kill people but [ __ ] neither does
• 1:09:10
  Superman apparently yeah well mind you
• 1:09:14
  we put on the 1966 Batman movie the other day uh it was a Sunday afternoon
• 1:09:20
  and we thought it was a great Sunday Afternoon movie and that movie is
• 1:09:24
  terrific h have I mentioned that on this podcast already did I bring this up last
• 1:09:28
  week uh I don't know I think so maybe maybe or maybe we
• 1:09:35
  were just talking about it or maybe we were talking about it yeah cuz we were
• 1:09:39
  there that night that's true that's true but there's this one bit that just
• 1:09:42
  sticks in my head where you always think about the old Batman just being really
• 1:09:47
  really nonviolent and you know the scene with him trying to get rid of the bomb
• 1:09:51
  and not wanting to hurt drunks or ducks or uh yeah Salvation Army bands but then
• 1:09:58
  there's also a scene where Robin says well what if the Riddler is already
• 1:10:03
  kidnapped the girl and without hesitating Batman just says then I will
• 1:10:07
  bash him
• 1:10:11
  brutally it's like oh okay we're just it's going to have a brutal bashing I
• 1:10:16
  like uh this is on the on wired with the photo of the new Batmobile it says it
• 1:10:21
  seemed unlikely that the tumbler from The Dark Knight could ever be regarded
• 1:10:24
  as an understated take on Batman's town car but apparently that's where we've
• 1:10:28
  reached by the time Ben Ben Affleck Cape Crusader gets his first Solo movie it
• 1:10:32
  wouldn't be the least bit surprising if the next Batmobile turns out to be
• 1:10:35
  larger than Gotham City itself yeah interesting yeah no this looks silly I I
• 1:10:42
  mean I based on um Man of Steel I'm not
• 1:10:47
  that I don't have that much hope that this is going to be I I was sort of
• 1:10:52
  looking starting to look forward to this because I don't know why but now I've
• 1:10:57
  seen the Batmobile and it is like much like it reminds me of the Dark Knight
• 1:11:02
  one and I thought this was meant to be a different Batman yeah well I guess we'll
• 1:11:07
  wait and see I mean it might be all right look I don't know if you want to
• 1:11:10
  see Ben Fleck in a Superman movie then
• 1:11:14
  you should go and watch Hollywood land where Ben Affleck plays James Rees the
• 1:11:20
  guy who plays the original Superman and
• 1:11:23
  it's just about his rise to fame and his
• 1:11:27
  uh questionable death and it's fantastic it's a great movie about old
• 1:11:33
  Hollywood I would actually like to watch that I'm G to make a note of
• 1:11:37
  that if you watch the trailer for it you'll notice there's a conspicuous
• 1:11:43
  absence of the Superman Insignia because they had the rights to
• 1:11:48
  use because it's not who who owns the rights to
• 1:11:51
  Superman uh I can't remember in in terms of
• 1:11:56
  film who I'm not sure yeah um anyway
• 1:12:02
  whichever production company she War Warner Brothers yeah maybe it's Warner
• 1:12:06
  Brothers owns Superman um and this is not Warner Brothers and it's not a
• 1:12:12
  Superman movie although it does feature Superman fairly heavily in it yeah but
• 1:12:16
  they licensed the Superman costume for the film but they couldn't get
• 1:12:21
  advertising rights so in all the trailers he's just I don't know whether they've
• 1:12:26
  superimposed it out or whether they film specific scenes so that they could use
• 1:12:29
  them in the trailer but there's no Superman s huh yeah he's just in a
• 1:12:34
  costume yeah he's just in a blue suit
• 1:12:39
  interesting oh have you seen this Star Wars parody on Sesame Street no no I
• 1:12:44
  have not I haven't watched it yet but I saw a picture and read an article about
• 1:12:48
  um hang on let me put this in the show notes this is it's under
• 1:12:54
  TV chewy is a cookie not a
• 1:12:59
  Wie star s'mores so yes snapus plays a
• 1:13:05
  banther um only one canoli is a wise weather Jedi who meant as a young Luke
• 1:13:11
  pie Walker Princess P everything's a pun
• 1:13:16
  yeah and uh yeah I mean it looks adorable that does look adorable when I
• 1:13:21
  was a kid there was nothing better
• 1:13:25
  than Star Wars themed TV shows yeah because Muppet Babies had a Star Wars
• 1:13:32
  Episode and they tease it in the uh opening titles like of every episode and
• 1:13:38
  I'd [ __ ] just want that episode to come up yeah yeah you know that's
• 1:13:43
  awesome I'm definitely going to watch this all right I've worked at what we
• 1:13:46
  need to do next time Dave can't make a uh podcast let's talk about Star Wars
• 1:13:51
  yeah well I mean it's could all been about we manag to squeeze a bit in here
• 1:13:54
  at the end but uh speaking of squeezing it in at the
• 1:13:58
  end yep no no speaking of
• 1:14:04
  stars uh yeah well that's a better uh it's a better out than I could have come up
• 1:14:09
  with I was just going to say they're doing an obi-1 canobi spin-off a for
• 1:14:13
  [ __ ] sake yes and a Bobba fit
• 1:14:16
  one yeah ah man I don't know I'm scared of these I'm scared of
• 1:14:22
  these movies uh not as scared I don't know I'm not as scared
• 1:14:29
  now that George Lucas isn't in control but have you seen this business actually
• 1:14:34
  this is something we could talk about um this stuff about Latino Review flying
• 1:14:40
  drones over the set and whether that crosses some kind of boundary cuz um uh
• 1:14:46
  I just clicked through on the verge to the article I forgot I forgot about this
• 1:14:49
  but Latino Review have taken have got these photos actually and I'll put this
• 1:14:52
  in the show notes as well have a look at this it's just there underneath the other one
• 1:14:57
  and uh there was a bit of uh oh these the ones yeah the sets I did look at
• 1:15:02
  these bit of controversy I'm trading a very fine line at the moment between how
• 1:15:06
  much I want to know about these movies movies like I'm trying to avoid plot
• 1:15:12
  spoilers but I will look at set photos yeah well I mean there's there is what
• 1:15:18
  looks like the Millennium Falcon there and there is I'd say I'd say that's Oran
• 1:15:23
  Cruiser uh seems to also be an X-Wing yeah a couple of x-wings but the the
• 1:15:29
  major question about this is how the [ __ ] did they get this photo and
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  apparently uh somebody suggested that they were flying drones over the set and
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  is that going too far wow cuz that does seem a bit
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  dodgy yeah maybe they can fly some drones over Jennifer lawren
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