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Riding through History with 'Mr. Norm' Krause and the 1965 Dodge Coronet · In Wheel Time Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to another In-Wheel Time podcast, a 30-minute mini version of the In-Wheel Time car show that airs live every Saturday morning 8 to 11 am, central From the Sugar Shack Studios in Texas, usa.
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: It is the In-Wheel Time car talk show Coming up.
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: We announce the very special car that we'll have in the In-Wheel Time booth at AutoRama this year with the owner of said car, mr Jim Tilly.
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: We'll also have the upcoming events calendar.
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: Mr Marr reviews the redesigned Jeep Compass and later a special segment with standout stories.
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: That's good.
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  Speaker 2: Did you write that?
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  Speaker 3: Did you read that before you read it?
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  Speaker 1: I did I wrote it, but I just wanted toit didn't flow.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I paused just for a moment for emphasis.
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  Speaker 1: So, at any rate, all that more coming up in this hour or half hour, depending on whether or not you're going to download a podcast later on.
• 1:07
  Speaker 1: But this is a live show, so in the next hour you'll hear that and more Howdy, along with Mike out of this World, Mars, who's on the phone, with our guest who's trying to dial in right now.
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: King Conrad DeLong is here.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for being here.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate you having me yes, always.
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  Speaker 1: Letting me in the sugar shack, in the sugar shack.
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  Speaker 1: And Mr Jeffrey, we always need more.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Zegan, I'm Don Armstrong, or not, because nobody else wants to be.
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  Speaker 1: That's for sure.
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  Speaker 1: They do not want to be me, but at any rate, so we haveare we going to be able to do this, mr Marr?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, give him a minute here.
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  Speaker 1: Give him a minute.
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  Speaker 1: In between time we're going to move on with the show and work and let Mr Marr's worry aboutlet me turn it.
• 1:57
  Speaker 1: Let Mr Marr's worry about getting our guest lined up, which should have happened about 10 minutes ago but didn't.
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  Speaker 1: But at any rate.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm going to read you a little story.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, and you may or may not know of this name, but perhaps you do and the gentleman that we're talking about, his name, his real name is Norm Krause.
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  Speaker 1: He passed away in February of 2021.
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  Speaker 1: And this story was written right before then, so just have to keep that in mind.
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  Speaker 1: So here's the story from Hemmingscom Ready Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Perhaps no one was responsible for more sales of Dodge Performance vehicles during the muscle car era than Norm Krause, also known as Mr Norm.
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  Speaker 1: As a co-owner of Grand Spalding Dodge in Chicago from 1962 to 1977, his focus on high performance helped it become the biggest Dodge dealership in the world.
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  Speaker 1: Norm, and his brother Lynn is co-owner Got their start selling used cars as teenagers in the late 1940s from their father's gas station, making just three cents per gallon, pumping gas and cleaning windshields.
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  Speaker 1: They wanted something more.
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  Speaker 1: At the suggestion of a customer quote my brother and I went out and bought a bagel.
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  Speaker 1: A cheap car recounts Norm.
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  Speaker 1: We brought it back and put it in the corner of the gas station, cleaned it up and sold the car the next day and made $60 on it.
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  Speaker 2: So with a steady business.
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  Speaker 1: The brothers broke through in the late 1950s when they sold a 1956 Chevy convertible with a V8 and a manual transmission.
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  Speaker 1: Paying by the character for a classified ad, they squeezed in quote call Mr Norm.
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  Speaker 1: End quote which soon became a signature for the business.
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  Speaker 1: But the car itself proved very popular.
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  Speaker 1: The next morning, norm says I must have had 25 calls by 10 am.
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  Speaker 1: I had already delivered it by 11, my brother, who was out buying cars, called me and I said do not buy a regular car again, buy all four speeds.
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  Speaker 1: We got an education and performance from our customers.
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  Speaker 1: We got so well known in the Chicago area.
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  Speaker 1: That's when Dodge came in.
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  Speaker 1: In the fall of 1962, still with only a small office and no real showroom, grand Spalding Dodge opened.
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  Speaker 1: At just 28 years old.
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  Speaker 1: Norm Kraus was the youngest Dodge dealer in the country.
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  Speaker 1: I think the first month we sold about 35 cars.
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  Speaker 1: Norm says Wow.
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  Speaker 1: From that day on it was totally performance.
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  Speaker 1: As one of the first dealers to install a dynamometer, grand Spalding was able to properly tune their customers' cars which were notoriously detuned from the factory.
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  Speaker 1: The first 383 we put on our dyno registered 180 horsepower, says Norm.
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  Speaker 1: I said what the hell is going on here.
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  Speaker 1: Let's set it up and see what she'll do.
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  Speaker 1: With a little work they were able to get that 383 to make a reliable 325 horsepower.
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  Speaker 1: Norm said Wow.
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  Speaker 1: And he made a quick decision.
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  Speaker 1: That's going to be done on every car that goes out of our door.
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  Speaker 1: Every high performance customer is going to get a free dyno tune.
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  Speaker 1: When we sold a high performance car we had the car dynoed right in front of the customer.
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  Speaker 1: That's cool.
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  Speaker 1: When a minor sponsorship one weekend turned into five sales by Wednesday, on Thursday Norm was ready to go racing.
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  Speaker 1: Not wanting to compete against his customers, he decided to build a match race car, he said.
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  Speaker 1: Our first 1964 supercharged car became one of the first funny cars in the country because we went out racing.
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  Speaker 1: We were running against all the gassers and the rails.
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  Speaker 1: There weren't any funny cars back then.
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  Speaker 1: The 1965 X factory lightweight car allowed them to run well into the eights when the competition was in the ninth, putting Mr Norm on the map nationwide.
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  Speaker 1: So with their booming performance business, Grand Spalding was selling cars and parts all over the country.
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  Speaker 1: People from as far away as Alaska came to buy mopars.
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  Speaker 1: Such was Norm's influence.
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  Speaker 1: He could single-handedly get Chrysler to produce a new model.
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  Speaker 1: When Chrysler said that a big block dart was impossible, norm had his top mechanic stuff a 383 x 1, and he drove it to the Detroit area to prove it could be done.
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  Speaker 1: Thus was born the Dart GTS.
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  Speaker 1: The following year he asked Chrysler to build him a 440 dart.
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  Speaker 1: They built 50 for him, which he was easily able to sell as the Dart GSS for Grand Spalding Sport.
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  Speaker 1: The Kraus brothers grew their business into the largest Dodge dealer in the world, selling trucks, fans and standard cars along with the high performance models.
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  Speaker 1: When others were turning away the younger crowd, grand Spalding courted them.
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  Speaker 1: The competition didn't want to deal with a young fellow.
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  Speaker 1: If I caught a salesman playing games with a kid, his ass was in trouble.
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  Speaker 1: That was a quote.
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  Speaker 1: In 1977, norm sold his share of the dealership, which closed within a couple of years.
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  Speaker 1: Still in his 40s he wanted to spend more time with his family Something not possible, went on the showroom floor from Monday through Friday and then at the racetrack on weekends.
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  Speaker 1: He later had a furniture business on the site of one of the dealership buildings and then sold used cars again In the past 20 years.
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  Speaker 1: No, mind you, this store was written before he died.
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  Speaker 1: He's worked with his performance West group to market newer products that use his name under license.
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  Speaker 1: He still gets out to shows where the Mr Norm persona still draws fans.
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  Speaker 1: Mr Norm, he explains, was an image that was built into the dealership.
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  Speaker 1: When I walked out at the end of the day I wasn't Mr Norm anymore, I was Norm Krause.
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  Speaker 1: I learned to be a humble winner on the track and a gracious loser.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just glad I didn't have to be gracious too much, wow, and a lot of questions.
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  Speaker 3: How much fun Chicago must have been back then, because Dickie Harrell was in Chicago as well.
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  Speaker 2: Well, not only that, but was it was a regional thing, because he seems like he started this and then it started to expand.
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  Speaker 2: So he kind of stepped into it with his knowledge and, of course, his business sense, his business acumen on that.
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  Speaker 2: Chicago started it and it grew.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and proof of concept, because he knew that there was so much untapped horsepower in the vehicles that were detuned from the factory and being the only one out there that was willing to stand up and say you want to come watch me make horsepower with your car, watch me on the dyno Eight second quarter mile.
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  Speaker 3: Back then In 1962.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: You can't do that today, no, without safety and fire equipment and helmets, and.
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  Speaker 3: And that was in the pre funny car days.
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  Speaker 3: Those were called AFX cars, altered Factory Experimentals, and he was getting them from Chrysler.
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  Speaker 3: How cool.
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  Speaker 3: No, he was creating them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and all of that, all of that really came out of the post World War II era when the guys mainly out in California were hot rod in their cars and that movement spread across the country really quickly.
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  Speaker 2: That actually took the hot rod aspect in California were veterans from the Air Force started that because they were using the belly tanks and they knew how to tune a rotary engine at high altitude.
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  Speaker 2: So they took that knowledge, made their own parts, brought it back down to earth started more.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, but it was a lot of the Air Force people that actually started in the hot rod.
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  Speaker 2: I watched a show on it not very long ago that that was the birth, or to speak, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and Mr Norms definitely got you know.
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  Speaker 3: In the Mopar world his name is top of the line.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know you know we talked before the show.
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  Speaker 3: You know that was, you know, dickie Harrell the Yanko the Baldwin.
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  Speaker 3: See, I'm an East Coaster, so Baldwin motion was at a Long Island, new York, harrell, out of Chicago.
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  Speaker 2: I forget about it.
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  Speaker 3: Dickie Yanko was Cannonville, pennsylvania, suburbs, I think, of All up there in the northeast, yeah, the northeast, yeah, filly.
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  Speaker 3: So each of those regional guys became a name.
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  Speaker 3: And today at Amicom or to Barrett Jackson auction, those cars are are priceless, almost you know, though people are going to pay money for them.
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  Speaker 3: But those cars with that kind of a heritage are highly desirable in the auction.
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  Speaker 1: So, needless to say, we don't have Jim Tilly with us on the line Mr Mars is still working on that but I'm going to tell you right now that Jim Tilly drum has a 1965 Dodge Coronet 500 with a 426 wedge in it.
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  Speaker 1: You want to put it up?
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  Speaker 1: It's a Mr Norm car.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, if you would please.
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  Speaker 1: It's a Mr Norm car and it's rare and it's worth a bajillion dollars and it is going to appear in the in wheel time booth at AutoRama this year.
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  Speaker 2: So we're really excited about that and if you're watching on any of the channels, there it is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there it is.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: It's not.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't have a number on the side of it or advertising or anything like that.
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  Speaker 1: It was sold, from what I understand, to a gentleman there in the Chicago area who bought it new and drove it and that's the way I'm.
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  Speaker 3: As you know, these are just cars he sold.
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  Speaker 3: He didn't sell them as race cars, he just sold them as cars, and people turn them into race cars.
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  Speaker 2: And I think Mike said this is what 10 of 400 or something or something Operate just number like that.
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  Speaker 1: We'll find out about it, but at any rate.
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  Speaker 1: So there you have it.
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  Speaker 1: That's what's going to be in the in wheel time booth this year, and of all the cars that we've had, this is one that I'm more excited about than any of the others Not that any of the others were anything other than spectacular.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I think that the first show I had the Corvette in there, my Corvette in it.
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  Speaker 2: And then the Corvair.
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  Speaker 1: The Corvair.
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  Speaker 1: The Corvair was in there.
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  Speaker 1: We had John Hobus's Cuda.
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  Speaker 1: Was that a Cuda?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the green Cuda had my rally, had your rally in there one year and there was another is a Ugo or something?
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: No it was the Cadillac truck.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we had the Cadillac truck.
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  Speaker 1: That was spectacular.
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  Speaker 3: And then had the Buick last year.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, stands, stands, stands are 38 gangster special yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So well.
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  Speaker 2: Your daughter used that on her departure from the reception on her honeymoon.
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's correct, and you know.
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  Speaker 1: So we've tried to bring something to the table.
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  Speaker 3: And this is cool.
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  Speaker 3: This is going to attract a lot of attention.
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  Speaker 3: I hope so.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, at the booth, just because you know, and anybody with Mopar knowledge is definitely going to want to come put their eyes on this car, because it's not a car.
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  Speaker 3: First off, it's not a car that you see often, a true Mr Norm's car.
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  Speaker 3: I've never seen one, that I know Well, yeah pictures and from what I understand once we can get the interview on, there's a great backstory to this specific car.
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  Speaker 3: That's kind of exciting as well, and you know that'll make it even more interesting to people.
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  Speaker 1: I think so too.
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the issue is over there.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think it's a could be weather related stuff, something.
• 13:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we can get the video.
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: I don't think we can get the audio.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's what he's struggling with Is getting the audio, whatever the case may be.
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  Speaker 1: But there's the car.
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  Speaker 1: Are we showing more?
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  Speaker 2: pictures.
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  Speaker 1: I can do it again, let's go through the car again because it's a real pretty blue and we're going to have a black curtain behind it and it's going to be really cool to have that notice.
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  Speaker 2: There's different wheels on it too.
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  Speaker 2: Those are the Keystone classics versus the Kregert style.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a nice interior.
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  Speaker 2: Look at that.
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  Speaker 2: I know that's a big one.
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  Speaker 2: That's the kind that when you're stopping fast you put your arm on the passenger to hold them back, that's right and look it's an automatic.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, how about that?
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  Speaker 3: I wonder if that's the tack in the top of the dash, the clock in the bottom by the shifter.
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  Speaker 2: We'll run through them again.
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  Speaker 3: That's pretty bull, but it's a 426 wedge, it's not a 426 hemi and the difference is it doesn't have the spark plug between the valves, the hemispherical heads.
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  Speaker 3: A wedge evolved as the 413 and the 426.
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  Speaker 3: You know it's a regular side-by-side valve, so they didn't make a 318 wedge.
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: I think 318 would be, or not 318, but 383,.
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: Considered a wedge motor as well.
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: Well, I was pretty excited about it.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: Mars and I had been talking about it and we'd asked somebody else.
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  Speaker 1: And now they didn't want to, they didn't want to loan out their car.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: And then that's fine, I perfectly understand that.
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  Speaker 1: And then Mars says you know, I've got this friend of mine that I've known for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: Let me call him.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: I said call him, see, because I said that'd be really cool if we could get that.
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  Speaker 3: And the guy agreed, so he's going to bring it over and this is actually going to be entered in all around.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's going to be entered in competition Well it was all of them are.
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  Speaker 2: I mean all the ones that have been in the booth in the past have been.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, mine was never entered.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: No, mine was just there.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: None of the the only one that was entered was the truck that we had a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 3: And he won his class.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: No, his second place, second place Well, it's still an award it is and that.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: And listen, if you win an award at Autorama, that's something.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: I never won an award at Autorama when I was showing back in the day and I was okay with it because I got to show my car at Autorama at Autorama.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's just the talking point of I was in Autorama Well there's the other talking point is I was in Autorama and one, so there's two most definitely.
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  Speaker 3: And then the third is I was in Autorama and one and was in the in wheel time booth.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: That's even more rare, yeah yeah.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, like getting a hot dog at the hot dog stand on Thanksgiving day.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: When there are no hot dogs available, none of the food booths are open on Thanksgiving, I guess Turkey.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: Turkey dogs.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: I assume that they think that everybody has eaten Thanksgiving dinner by the time that they're going to be there.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: I made the mistake because I was already for a hot dog one Thanksgiving couple of years ago.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Well, that's your tradition when you do that, you get it.
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  Speaker 2: You get your Coney dog or whatever that.
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  Speaker 2: You've always said that.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: But not that Thanksgiving day Everything was open.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: No food booths were open.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the other cool thing is a number of the people that work Autorama work for Autorama.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: They volunteer in the morning to do the food giveaway.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Well, larry does.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So, at any rate, I thought that that was pretty cool and we're really excited about it.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry, we couldn't talk to Jim, but that's just the way that it is.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it's always this way, kind of Sort of yeah, many times yeah.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: At any rate, coming up later on in our show we're going to have an interview with Jason Feldman, who, whose dad, stephen Wolfe, makes the general manager role over there at Healthman.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Christor Dodge Jeep Ram over on the Katie Freeway.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: There was a story that ran across on automotive news a couple of weeks ago about Houston.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: The headline is headline is Houston dealership police take on fraud and they've been ripped off for $300,000.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Each year to customer ID fraud.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Oh gosh.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you can just imagine what that's about and the tricks that people use to go in and basically steal a car With fake identity fraud basically identity fraud, and the dealership doesn't know, because they've got all the stuff there.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Well, that ain't happening.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: No, they've got what they think they need, but it's not Legit right, yeah, so that's pretty ugly.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Hey, if you'd like to get in touch with us, shoot us an email.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Our address here is info at in wheel time Dot-com.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: I know that you have don't forget to subscribe yeah huh, subscribe To our feet will come get you go to Facebook or YouTube yeah, either one of them or our web podcasts or a website or a time now for the events calendar.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Conrad and today.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Not so much.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: The events calendar is.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: It's raining and a lot of people canceled, but you know there's always other stuff going on.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: I'm wondering and I didn't call bill to find out if they're doing the downtown Bastrop A 17th annual heroes and hot rods veterans day weekend.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: I would imagine so, because that's a pretty big event over there.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: They'll have fine and right now it's not raining.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there's only a 30% chance of rain today, but it's still ugly and the last I heard he had 300 registered 400 openings but it was filling up.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: So you know 400 car shows pretty cool.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: So other things going on again.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: We just talked about a Georgia Brown Convention Center.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Thanksgiving weekend is Autorama World of Wheels and the Cavalcade of Customs.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: We'll be there doing the show live from 8 to noon, a four-hour broadcast on Saturday.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: So come on out and say hi and enjoy the mr Norm's car, norms car and I'm in general.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll remember in general.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: And then you know other stuff going on the fourth annual Memorial benefits taps and turbos, cars at no label, brewing in Katie today.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Well, they were supposed to be, but yeah I.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: This is weather everything in town canceled a lot of.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: You know the the side I watched.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: All games were canceled last night.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, monday is gonna be a complete washout from what the weatherman says.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: If you believe the weather, some kind of a little big L floating around out there and we're all gonna.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I think Locust has come in all kinds of stuff, that's it the seven planks yeah but the big thing is put on your calendar Autorama Yep, which is in a couple of weeks Thanksgiving weekend, thursday, friday, saturday, sunday.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: You'll really enjoy be there time now for this hour's car review, and mr Mars has the Jeep Compass.
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: Yes, sir, we had the 2023 Jeep Compass Altitude four by four.
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: Now you may not have heard of the altitude as far as the compass goes.
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: There's actually five trim levels of the compass this year.
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: There's the sport, the latitude, the latitude Lux and the limited and the trail hog.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: Now, I say it that way because the altitude is actually a package off of the latitude, much like the high altitude sounds like some sort of dance but it's not really a trip.
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: They don't count it as a trim level, but it's listed in parentheses by the trim levels.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Theoretically it is.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: So it's the altitude anyway.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: So this is a small crossover SUV to me.
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: It's.
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: It's Some people consider the subcompact, but it's really kind of big to me to be a subcompact.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: It's smaller than the renegade but it's larger than the Cherokee, so it kind of fits in between those two in the Jeep lineup.
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: You're gonna see that it's got the seventh slot Jeep grill up front.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: It has a really nice two-tone black and red line pearl color scheme on it and it's got black badging and it's got the black wheels on it.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: So it's a blackeric thing and it really looks sharp, particularly with that red paint on it.
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: Up front You're gonna find the red sensing wipers, led lighting, fog lights.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: Gonna find that it's got the cornering headlights on this vehicle too, you know, so they kind of cock a little bit when you go around the corners.
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: Power liftgate 18 by 7 inch black wheels.
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: It's a really nice looking combination of color that they've done with this.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: You go into the interior You're gonna find that you got the black cloth and vinyl seating surfaces.
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: It's kind of a combination.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: There got the you connect 10.1 inch screen so that 10 inch screen is really nice and large in the dash of this vehicle.
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: This is where you're gonna find all your convenience controls, your navigation.
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: It's got the 360 degree camera so you can see all the way around.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: It Got USB ports in the front and it's got two in the rear seating area, but they're charged only so that your rear passengers Can can charge their devices.
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: Got wireless charging up front, apple, carplay, android, got all that good electronic stuff.
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: The front seats are heated and the rear seats, the second row seats, are a 6040.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: There is no third row in this vehicle.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Something tells me that this is not red.
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: No, it's not, but take my word for it.
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: It's a beautiful red car and this one's blue, this one's blue, but they didn't have any pictures Raining and I didn't get pictures.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: here is mr Mr Photographer over here.
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the rain got me on several things.
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: They call that code.
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: So this year for new it's got a 2.0 liter inline four cylinder that's turbocharged, it's new for this year 200 horsepower, 221 pound feet of torque, it's got an eight speed automatic transmission and, properly equipped, it will tow 2000 pounds.
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: Now the EPA says you should be looking for 24 in the city, on the highway 32 and combined a 27 miles per gallon.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: Now I drove 376.8 miles.
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: I've got 25.8 miles to it and I was very happy with that, considering the way I drove it.
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: Now it's reported that this will go 0 to 60 in 8.3 seconds.
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: It is trail rated so it's got a firm off-road type ride to it.
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: That's part of the Jeep.
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: You don't buy a Jeep to be a sports car.
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: You don't buy it to be a luxury car and float down the highway.
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: You buy it because it is a Jeep and so don't buy it for road handling and things like a quartering on a road course, because that's just not what this vehicle is made for.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: But I'm sure that you checked it out on the on ramp acceleration test that you always do.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: That's how.
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: I know how well it goes there.
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: So the base model price on Jeep Compass you can get one of these in the stripper version for $29,995.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: So it's slightly under $30,000.
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: The base trim price on the one that we had is $32,670.
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: But we had some options.
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: It was $41,905 MSRP.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: Now if you're looking for something to compare this to, you're shopping in this category.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: The Mazda CX50 is going to start at $31,675.
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: So it's a little bit more.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: The Honda CR-V is $28,14, so it's a little bit less, and the Subaru Forester at $26,395 is a little bit more or less.
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: But they're all right there in that category.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: So it kind of defends more or less.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: If you want something that's more geared towards possibly going off-road, or if you want something that's a little more for the highway or in town driving.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: But they're in that same class.
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: I personally think the Jeep Compass is a little bit bigger than the other ones.
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: It just feels bigger and looks bigger.
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: I did not get the measuring tape out on it, obviously, because I didn't get the camera out to take the pictures of the red vehicle, but I think it's a little bit bigger and it's one of the bigger vehicles in that category, that's my review of the 2023 Compass.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, when I saw it, I wouldn't put that in the compact SUV segment.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: No, it's a subcompact.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, or subcompact.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: It'd be the compact.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: That's where I would think it would go.
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: I just call it mid-size.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: It's just a tweener.
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: It's a tweener, but it's not as big as the mid-size.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: No, when people shop for size vehicles, you can put whatever label you want on it.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I like that one and that's what they buy.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I'll take the red one.
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: I don't know anybody None of my kids or anybody else that's ever said I'm going to go find me a compact SUV.
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I'll go out there.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: And they say I like this one.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: People buy on emotion and when they have these press junkets that we get to, well, we used to go on all the time.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: They always tout about the fact that best in class.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's a cargo area.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Well, really, by what?
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Two inches You'll never be able to no.
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: It's not about that.
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: It's a way to say something.
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: I mean it's marketing, Marketing.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: That's the way to put it.
• 26:45
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• 27:01
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• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Houston's finest cars are invited to another Gulf Coast Auto Shield Car Social, saturday, december 2nd, and you're invited too.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Show off your personal pride and joy, or just stop in to see the likes of Lucid Lamborghini, porsche, ferrari and more.
• 27:20
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• 27:25
  Speaker 1: The Car Social is your opportunity to get a tour of this state-of-the-art facility located at 11275 South Sam Houston Parkway, just south of the Southwest Freeway.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: It all takes place Saturday, december 2nd, 9 to noon.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: This is the perfect opportunity to connect with other car enthusiasts, from BMWs to mentallys, corvettes to McLarens.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: The Car Social is a different kind of show.
• 27:47
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• 27:48
  Speaker 1: See Gulf Coast Auto Shield's facility.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: You'll be amazed.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Put it on your calendar now the Gulf Coast Auto Shield Car Social Saturday, december 2nd, 9 to noon at 11275 South Sam Houston Parkway, just south of the Southwest Freeway.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: The in-wheel time car talk show will be there too.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: We'll see you then.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: Hey, Houston, America's greatest hot rod tradition is back Thanksgiving weekend, the O'Reilly Auto Parts Auto-Roma At the George R Brown Convention.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Center four action-packed days of hot rods, customs classics trucks and performance cars.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: The Ultimate Low.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: Rider Showcase sponsored by Shorties Hydraulics, see Lone Star Throwdowns, texas-sized truck spread.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: And don't miss the traditional rod and custom section.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: Friday, saturday and Sunday see wild, high-flying freestyle motocross stunt shows.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: Shop the Swat Meat and Women's World all weekend on the Celebrity Stage presented by Nick's auto-repairing classic car restoration.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: Friday, meet AEW Tag Team Superstars to Lucho Pro.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: Saturday it's Noel G Hector from the Fast and Furious.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: Sunday it's Lou Ferrigno, the original, incredible Hulk, the O'Reilly Auto Parts.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: Auto-roma November 23rd through 26th at the George R Brown Convention Center, discount tickets at a Raleigh Auto Parts, part of the Summer Racing Equipment Show Car Series.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: See AutoRomacom for more info.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: The original group of loopy tortilla restaurants will have you telling your family and friends just what the original recipes mean when it comes to the best fajitas in Southeast Texas.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Founders Standhold invite you to visit the original loopy tortilla near I-10 and Highway 6.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Here's the original house that inspired the design of all the rest and the original charm that helped make loopy tortilla the go-to destination for Houston Tex-Mex.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Speaking of original, nothing can compete with the original lime pepper marinade that everyone will agree makes loopy tortilla award-winning beef fajitas the best anywhere.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Loopy Tortilla Katie is another location that gives you the same quality and service Houstonians have come to expect at loopies.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: It's located just off I-10 of the Grand Parkway.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: At Kingsland Boulevard in Katie, find yourself an Aggie Land.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Head to the loopy tortilla in College Station, located just around the corner from Kyle Field, it's a great place to enjoy those famous frozen margaritas before or after the game.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Head to East, to Louisiana.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Stop in at the loopy tortilla in Beaumont.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: It twos on I-10, you can't miss it.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: The original group of loopy tortilla restaurants invites you in for the best Tex-Mex anywhere.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: That's it for this podcast episode of the In Wheel Time Car Show.
• 30:08
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