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Lee Elci, Voice of Freedom | The Growth of Government · The Lee Elci Show

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  Speaker 1: See, in the Middle East, huge challenge.
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  Speaker 2: Trump was going to drop a whole bunch of bombs,
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  Speaker 2: decided not to.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see if they can't work something out.
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  Speaker 2: We have challenges before us right here on affordable housing,
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  Speaker 2: a strained middle class, the erosion of our constitutional rights,
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  Speaker 2: the endless expansion of government. I mean, they're trying to
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  Speaker 2: destroy your fruits and freedoms of your own labor. They
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  Speaker 2: want too big a slice of what you do. And
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  Speaker 2: I know we've talked about this at length often. But
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  Speaker 2: these are the predictable results of a government that has
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  Speaker 2: forgotten its proper place.
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  Speaker 1: Listen.
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  Speaker 2: This is incredibly important. And I know for a fact
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  Speaker 2: that You feel the same way I do.
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  Speaker 3: How do I know that?
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  Speaker 2: Because I've been talking a lot to the politicos who
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  Speaker 2: are knocking on doors. And to my surprise, there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of conversation, a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Of rumbling about the expansion of power.
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  Speaker 2: And what I just talked about are predictable results of
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  Speaker 2: a government that has forgotten its place.
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  Speaker 3: Like I said, forgotten its place.
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  Speaker 2: The founding fathers understood that government is a necessary servant.
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  Speaker 1: It is not your master. Wake up.
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  Speaker 2: When it says to stay within your bounds, they need
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  Speaker 2: to stay within their bounds.
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  Speaker 1: They need to be controlled. They being the government.
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  Speaker 2: If they're not controlled, people can't thrive. And when there's overreach,
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  Speaker 2: it creates the very problems it then claims only more
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  Speaker 2: power can solve. They create the problems, and then they
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  Speaker 2: create more problems to solve the problems they created. That's
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  Speaker 2: the problem of big government. Now, how do you fix it?
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  Speaker 1: What do you do? Sledgehammer at all? Some people will say, no,
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  Speaker 1: you can roll your eyes with that. I can't do that.
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  Speaker 1: We have to figure out a way to stop this.
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  Speaker 2: And if it means one vote at a time, one
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  Speaker 2: position at a time, whether it be state rep or
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  Speaker 2: state senator, and have that movement go from one end
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  Speaker 2: of the country to another, then that's how we do it.
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  Speaker 2: Because we cannot continue to give these folks who are
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  Speaker 2: in power, power.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look at the price of your home.
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  Speaker 2: For generations, ordinary Americans could buy a house, raise a family,
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  Speaker 2: build equity. I mean, today, young professionals, nurses, architects, teachers,
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  Speaker 2: office workers find themselves priced out.
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  Speaker 1: You're priced out.
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  Speaker 2: How can someone afford a half a million dollars for
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  Speaker 2: an average home?
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  Speaker 1: So they've got to live with their parents. They're scrambling
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  Speaker 1: for roommates.
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  Speaker 2: I know we talk about personal responsibility, and I firmly
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  Speaker 2: believe that. It's basically the center of everything that I believe.
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  Speaker 1: But if you're out there.
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  Speaker 2: As a young professional working 50 hours a week making $ 100, 000
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  Speaker 2: a year and you can't afford a house, well, if
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  Speaker 2: you're making $ 100, 000, you should be able to afford a house.
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  Speaker 2: But You are now victim of the direct consequences of
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  Speaker 2: government policies, zoning restrictions.
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  Speaker 1: Endless mandates.
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  Speaker 2: Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, vast sums of government-backed credit into
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  Speaker 2: the market, encouraging loans to almost anyone. What do you
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  Speaker 2: think is going to happen when everybody can get a loan?
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  Speaker 2: Prices go through the roof.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think happens?
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  Speaker 2: When there's guaranteed money for education, prices go through the roof.
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  Speaker 1: This is not advanced mathematics. It's simple.
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  Speaker 2: If the government got out of the way, see, they
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  Speaker 2: give you this feeling, this.
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  Speaker 1: Look of, oh, we're here to help you. Here's money.
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  Speaker 1: Use it to make yourself a better person.
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  Speaker 4: Great.
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  Speaker 1: But as you're doing it, the prices of everything go
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  Speaker 1: through the roof. They go ballistic.
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  Speaker 2: So now you've got investors who are snapping up properties
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  Speaker 2: with cash offers, right? There's no inspections, taxes, insurance. It's
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  Speaker 2: a cluster blank. And a home that once fit a
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  Speaker 2: young couple's budget in the 80s, even with high interest rates,
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  Speaker 2: has become completely unattainable. That's a huge problem. That's a
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  Speaker 2: huge slice of the American dream. If you can't own
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  Speaker 2: a house, the American dream dissipates. Now, maybe we live
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  Speaker 2: in a different time, right? Maybe we live in a
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  Speaker 2: different culture where kids don't care the same about having
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  Speaker 2: a house.
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  Speaker 1: They don't care seemingly about driving.
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  Speaker 2: They don't care about the same kind of freedoms that
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  Speaker 2: we cared about.
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  Speaker 1: It's a very different culture. Okay, I get that. And
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  Speaker 1: I'll factor that in.
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  Speaker 2: But that still doesn't mean that a house right now
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  Speaker 2: should be five, an average house should be $ 500, 000 or
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  Speaker 2: close to it. And that's a problem that was created
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  Speaker 2: by government. And the solution is not more government programs.
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  Speaker 1: It's not. The solution is to restore the free market.
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  Speaker 2: Stop flooding the market with subsidized credit and let the
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  Speaker 2: supply meet the demand. Are you telling me right now,
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  Speaker 2: are we talking about a housing crisis? You're telling me
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  Speaker 2: all these houses being built. I don't know the specifics
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  Speaker 2: of it, but I can almost guarantee you a lot
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  Speaker 2: of those are Projects are either tax abatement or they're
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  Speaker 2: getting an incredibly sweet deal in some way, shape or form. Now,
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  Speaker 2: are you telling me that these people are going to
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  Speaker 2: build these housing complex and let them sit there empty?
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  Speaker 2: If they had to risk their own money to do it,
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  Speaker 2: they wouldn't. When the government returns to the limited role.
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  Speaker 2: that the founders envisioned, I'm telling you, housing.
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  Speaker 1: Would become affordable again through just the ordinary genius of
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  Speaker 1: America and the American enterprise.
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  Speaker 2: And I can say the same about the American shrinking
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  Speaker 2: middle class. Decades ago, careful analysis showed that the middle
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  Speaker 2: class was not disappearing downward.
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  Speaker 3: It was rising.
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  Speaker 2: People moved into higher income brackets. If you look, data
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  Speaker 2: actually confirms this. The narrative of decline serves... It's a
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  Speaker 2: political purpose. A strong, independent middle class does not need
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  Speaker 2: permanent government guidance.
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  Speaker 3: Don't you get it?
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  Speaker 2: The more that they put the shackles on you, the
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  Speaker 2: more they make you dependent, the more power they have.
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  Speaker 2: Progressive politics... thrives on dependency. Their leaders envision themselves as
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  Speaker 2: the modern day savers. I mean, this is not, what
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  Speaker 2: they do is not compassion. It's a quiet ambition of power.
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  Speaker 2: Americans don't need to be, do you need to be managed?
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  Speaker 2: Do you need a nanny state or are you a
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  Speaker 2: free person?
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  Speaker 1: What is it?
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  Speaker 2: I'm a free man. I don't need you looking over
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  Speaker 2: my shoulder. Now, some folks will say, well, these are
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  Speaker 2: the failures of capitalism.
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  Speaker 3: That's false. We have lived under this new deal.
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  Speaker 5: It has altered the system.
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  Speaker 3: It has shaped this system.
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  Speaker 2: Politic that we live in, financially, industrial-wise, all of it.
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  Speaker 2: Most of FDR's experiments were rejected by the courts of
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  Speaker 2: that era for good reason, yet.
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  Speaker 5: They wanted centralized control, and they got it.
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  Speaker 2: Now you've got an explosion at the university level, teaching
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  Speaker 2: these kids about welfare and bureaucracy and all of it,
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  Speaker 2: and they've They're gravitating towards this Democrat socialist ideals of America.
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  Speaker 2: And we have to fight that with every ounce of
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  Speaker 2: our being or.
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  Speaker 1: There'll be nothing left.
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  Speaker 2: Unless you just don't care. If you don't care, then
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  Speaker 2: go about your life and do what you do. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a generation from now or maybe two, if
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  Speaker 2: we're lucky, it'll be over. Conservative principles that demand accountability
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  Speaker 2: and protect freedom Build citizens worthy of a republic that
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  Speaker 2: the founders left us. Anything less than that is unsatisfactory
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  Speaker 2: to me. The path moving forward, it's not complicated.
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  Speaker 3: It's simple.
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  Speaker 2: Return government to its basics. Protect your natural rights. Enforce contracts.
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  Speaker 2: Secure borders.
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  Speaker 6: Liberty.
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  Speaker 5: Let free people be free. Let them live.
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  Speaker 2: End the policies that artificially inflate housing costs. Reject this
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  Speaker 2: myth that mobility is on.
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  Speaker 3: A decline.
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  Speaker 2: You can be as great as you want to be. See,
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  Speaker 2: that's what they get into your head. They continue to
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  Speaker 2: drill down on that over and over and over again.
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  Speaker 1: I think if we return all those things.
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  Speaker 3: like a.
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  Speaker 2: Great reset button, the market will deliver affordable housing.
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  Speaker 3: Prosperity will rise.
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  Speaker 1: Education will become affordable again.
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  Speaker 2: How dare we have these universities with $ 10 billion in
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  Speaker 2: endowments charging $ 100, 000 a year?
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  Speaker 1: How do we let them get away with that?
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not sitting here in front of the microphone
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  Speaker 2: waxing poetic.
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  Speaker 1: About nostalgia or.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you as a young person listening to me
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  Speaker 2: right now, you can build your own future. As older
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  Speaker 2: folks who are listening to us, you can remind them
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  Speaker 2: of that. You've lived through generations of sweat equity, work,
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  Speaker 2: making something out of yourself. The chains on government that
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  Speaker 2: the founding fathers... forged, they still hold. Government does not
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  Speaker 2: own us. We own the government.
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  Speaker 3: You have to be reminded. Everyone has to be reminded
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  Speaker 3: of that. Everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Calmly, firmly, without hesitation. When you're in a conversation, repeat that.
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  Speaker 2: The government should be difficult to move.
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  Speaker 3: I get it. Government does not.
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  Speaker 1: Own you, though. We own the government. They don't dictate
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  Speaker 1: to us. We dictate to them.
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  Speaker 2: The republic is ours to keep. Stand on the Constitution.
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  Speaker 2: Stand on innovation. And let the promise that every American
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  Speaker 2: generation has had before us move into the future And
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  Speaker 2: that's one of life, liberty, and that pursuit of happiness.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe that's cliche, but to me, that means something.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we'll take a break. We'll come back.
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  Speaker 2: I hope you guys again had a great weekend as
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  Speaker 2: we start off on this Monday.
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  Speaker 3: Like I said, we've got a big show. Tom Cantone
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  Speaker 3: will be with us, Ben Proto, Bochy, and the 9.
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  Speaker 2: O'clock hour filled with my pals Coach Leo and the
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  Speaker 2: great Ebony Chief.
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  Speaker 1: We'll be right back.
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  Speaker 3: I don't really have much after this.
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  Speaker 4: 860-464-9490.
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  Speaker 3: And I would think that most people... Want to talk
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  Speaker 3: about what you want to talk about, Judge, and that's Mr. Fauci.
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  Speaker 3: But good morning.
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  Speaker 6: How are you?
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  Speaker 1: Good morning.
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  Speaker 4: I'm well.
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  Speaker 7: I finally slept decent. You know, it's been a very busy,
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  Speaker 7: very busy time.
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  Speaker 3: Isn't a night's sleep just a world of good?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm good with six hours. I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: Trump does it on three and four.
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  Speaker 3: Well, he sleeps. He goes to sleep in meetings. Occasionally.
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  Speaker 1: Occasionally. Up on the airplane. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You got to have it. Otherwise, you're not feeling yourself.
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  Speaker 6: All right.
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  Speaker 2: So I was actually off Wednesday. I didn't get a
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  Speaker 2: chance to see Fauci live. And then I went back
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  Speaker 2: and I watched as much of the testimony as I could. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, very disappointing about the taking of the fifth.
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  Speaker 2: And we can get into that. But, you know, this
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  Speaker 2: is the health of America that's at stake.
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  Speaker 3: And he could answer questions that could actually help America.
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  Speaker 1: I'm disappointed. Well, see, now I posted a couple posts.
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  Speaker 3: Boy, I lit up.
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  Speaker 7: I have a couple thousand followers, as you know. Not 10,000,
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  Speaker 7: but a lot. A lot of learned people, lawyers, doctors, FBI.
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  Speaker 1: Agents, CIA, a lot of people in medical, legal, as
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  Speaker 1: you can imagine, a broad section.
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  Speaker 7: And people I grew up with, right? People that work
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  Speaker 7: electric boat. And I'll tell you, I'm not surprised. And
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  Speaker 7: I heard from a friend of mine and a colleague
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  Speaker 7: who said to me on occasion, I'm very disappointed in
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  Speaker 7: your views.
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  Speaker 1: And that would be John Williams. I'm giving him a
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  Speaker 1: shout out.
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  Speaker 7: John's in his late 80s, probably the lawyer who's had
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  Speaker 7: the most civil rights litigation in Connecticut history.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. Georgetown law. Super smart guy.
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  Speaker 7: I saw him first arguing a case at the Second
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  Speaker 7: Circuit Court of Appeals in 1982.
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  Speaker 1: And make a long story.
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  Speaker 7: Short, he said to me, you know, I would take
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  Speaker 7: the fifth. And this may surprise people, given my posts.
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  Speaker 7: Certainly invoking the Fifth is understandable when the chairman of
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  Speaker 7: the committee, Dr. Rand Paul, says, I want to see
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  Speaker 7: Fauci in prison. So I think there's credibility to the statement.
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  Speaker 7: This is a setup of sorts. So his lawyers advised
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  Speaker 7: him to invoke.
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  Speaker 1: This Fifth Amendment. That's the problem. What I want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about, too, is this pardon.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 7: The pardon going back to 2014. I have studied some
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  Speaker 7: of this.
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  Speaker 1: I have read.
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  Speaker 3: Deeply.
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  Speaker 7: And the reason that people know why the pardon goes
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  Speaker 7: back to 2014, because that's when Dr. Fauci started his
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  Speaker 7: gain of function research. And he had ties to these labs, ties.
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  Speaker 1: To research in Wuhan that he did not reveal. Those
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  Speaker 1: are facts.
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  Speaker 7: Facts are a terrible thing. And people on the left
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  Speaker 7: don't want to recognize that. Did he have a financial stake?
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  Speaker 7: He was an investor. He was one of the highest
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  Speaker 7: paid people in government. And that's OK, because if you
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  Speaker 7: look at the highest paid people in Connecticut, It's the
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  Speaker 7: two basketball coaches and doctors at the John Dempsey Hospital.
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  Speaker 1: They are the highest paid.
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  Speaker 7: But he's amassed millions and this whole business about getting
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  Speaker 7: grants and financial awards, really bad look. So I understand
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  Speaker 7: him invoking the fifth because I think he's going to
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  Speaker 7: be charged somehow, some way, the Department of Justice.
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  Speaker 1: And now we have an issue.
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  Speaker 3: A perjury charge.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I don't know exactly what. It could be perjury.
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  Speaker 7: Now let's talk about contempt of Congress.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 7: Contempt contempt is defined as the willful violation of an
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  Speaker 7: unequivocal order. He may be able to skate on that
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  Speaker 7: because he's invoking his fifth under what's called advice of counsel.
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  Speaker 1: And he had a lot of lawyers.
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  Speaker 7: I'm obviously charging not enough because the commentators kept saying
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  Speaker 7: he was he was paying three thousand dollars an hour.
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  Speaker 3: I charge less.
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  Speaker 7: But in any event, advice of counsel, my lawyer told
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  Speaker 7: me to invoke the fifth. I don't think you can
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  Speaker 7: get somebody on a contempt of Congress for that.
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  Speaker 2: There is also a clause, and I wish I had
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  Speaker 2: it in front of me, but when you get a pardon,
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  Speaker 2: I was under the impression that you cannot take the fifth.
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  Speaker 3: You haven't been charged with anything.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, you know, I'm going to be dealing with this
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  Speaker 7: very issue. Now, I know about pardons and people that
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  Speaker 7: don't know. Again, my background, if you're first tuning in,
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  Speaker 7: I'm a lawyer.
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  Speaker 1: I was a judge.
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  Speaker 7: I was a prosecutor and been around the business for
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  Speaker 7: 45 years. I actually served on a capacity of board
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  Speaker 7: of pardons. So a pardon, what the President Obama did
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  Speaker 7: and what Biden did is unprecedented. This aspect of these
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  Speaker 7: prospective pardons, pardons for crimes not yet revealed or committed,
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  Speaker 7: this is new ground. And I agree with those commentators
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  Speaker 7: that says, There's.
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  Speaker 1: A paucity of law on this issue.
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  Speaker 3: Is it valid?
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 7: And we have the whole issue. Was it the auto pent?
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  Speaker 7: Did Biden really do it? I mean, you keep digging deeper.
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  Speaker 7: This is not conspiracy theorists.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Crazy train stuff.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 7: These are rational people. So the pardon prospectively may not
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  Speaker 7: be valid. Can he invoke the fifth to protect him
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  Speaker 7: for future acts? Arguably not.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: The pardon is only in the past. That's been the argument.
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  Speaker 2: This topic was brought up a little bit yesterday, and
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  Speaker 2: it fascinates me.
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  Speaker 3: So he works for the executive branch, Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Fauci.
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  Speaker 2: So does that mean anybody who works for the executive branch? can,
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  Speaker 2: if they get a preemptive pardon, can invoke the fifth.
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  Speaker 2: So any security detail, any law enforcement person, anybody within that,
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  Speaker 2: so anybody who outgoes as a president just gives a
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  Speaker 2: sweeping bunch of pardons to people and can.
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  Speaker 1: Go back 20 years. I mean, that seems like it's chaotic.
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  Speaker 7: Not only is it chaotic, it's questionably invalid. And the
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  Speaker 7: case may very well, it may go up to the
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  Speaker 7: United States Supreme Court when it deals with a federal issue.
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  Speaker 7: Because this whole issue of pardons, prospective, et cetera, it's
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  Speaker 7: untested ground.
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  Speaker 1: Right. And I question whether it's going to be valid. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I really do.
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  Speaker 3: Dr. Fauci, you look at his record. You go back.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, some of the treatment he had, some of
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  Speaker 2: the things that he has done to animals and things
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  Speaker 2: of that nature.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, to me, it's abhorrent.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. He loved the idea of being a rock star.
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  Speaker 1: He loved that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: This this thought of somehow this is the people that
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  Speaker 2: I were talking to, similar to you, the liberals. I
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  Speaker 2: had a liberal person called me up on Wednesday and said,
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  Speaker 2: you had better go on the air tomorrow and defend Dr.
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  Speaker 3: Fauci.
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  Speaker 1: He's an American hero. And I'm like, what are you
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  Speaker 1: talking about?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, because they still hold on with both hands
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  Speaker 2: that he saved millions of people with the vaccine.
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  Speaker 4: Where?
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Are you on that?
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: Well, you know, it's tough because I know people in
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: the community, one of whom is a very revered Pfizer scientist,
• 19:59
  Speaker 7: and he's been studying COVID for decades.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: And I don't trust Dr. Fauci.
• 20:05
  Speaker 7: I think he was selectively picking the authority that favored him. Unfortunately, folks,
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: I have lived and I posted about this. I've been
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: in a courtroom watching doctors lie through their teeth. And
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: I watched a judgment in a court trial in a
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: medical negligence case. I won't mention the hospital because they
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: probably advertise $ 32.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Million court side verdict.
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: Not a crazy jury swayed by we trial lawyers that
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: are just so persuasive.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: So bad stuff happens.
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: You can line up all kinds of authority judges. to
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: favor your position, you know. And so Fauci doubtlessly did
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: some good things during his five decades in government. But,
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: you know, when you're an investor in a lab, the
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: whole bad wet market thing, never bought it, the whole
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: bad wet market thing.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: How stupid do they.
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: Think we are? I mean, you know, it was crazy.
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: I posted, there was an article, you can look at it.
• 20:57
  Speaker 7: There was a Harvard professor who pleaded guilty in U.S.
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: District Court, I think it was 2023. He had connections
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: to the Wuhan lab. He was selling secrets to the
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: Chinese government.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: He pled guilty. This is a fact. You're not going
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: to see the left report on it.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so that takes me back to my next question.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: So Fauci, I.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Think he's 85 years old, okay?
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: He's got a few years left, whatever.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: He looks good for 85.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: He sure does.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: But, I mean, you get to this point.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: I give the same critique of Trump. You're standing at
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: the end of your life, right? And you want to
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: think about a legacy. You have an opportunity to help
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: future generations.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: He could care less.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: But, see, that's unacceptable to me.
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but that's reality. He's looking at– I'm sorry. He's
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: looking at the Benjamins. He's looking at the book tour.
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: He's probably already depleted hundreds of thousands of dollars. He
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: has spent more in advance on lawyer fees. He's going
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: to be Rudy Giuliani. He'll have nothing left. This is
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: what's going to happen to the guy. So you have
• 21:59
  Speaker 7: to look at self-preservation. I don't fault him in that regard.
• 22:02
  Speaker 7: You know, it's a terrible thing because they're going after him.
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: It's like Comey facing charges, Brennan and others. Clearly, Kash
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: Patel and the current administration.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Is going after these people. And you know what? They
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: went after Trump. What's sauce for the goose is sauce
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: for the gander. That's the correct. Not what's good for
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: the goose.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Oh, is that right?
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: You got to quote it correctly. Oh, I didn't know that.
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: Steven Seligman, a very well-known Hartford lawyer who's very liberal,
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: corrected me on that in jury selection.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: So let's get back to the comments on your Facebook post.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: So the surprising comments. You had said to me even
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: off the air that there's some people who are coming
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: out and saying.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: How dare you or how I can't believe you. My
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: whole view of you is different. How does that make
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: you feel?
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: Well, you know, it's interesting because, as you know, I'm
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: not running for anything other than my wife.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: If I know what's good for me, if she calls.
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: And that's very empowering because I can be honest and
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: I'm fairly educated.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: I know I went to state college. Don't hold that
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: against me.
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: But a friend of mine, a lawyer friend that's Cornell educated,
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: very well known, you know, very much on the left.
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: But people were meant to feel guilty. I mean, to
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: discourage people from going to church. I was reviled for
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: going into restaurants when people were cowering with masks in
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: their cars.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I've lived it.
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: And I've seen people get medical conditions. I met with
• 23:20
  Speaker 7: a young lady who's blind in one eye as a
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: result of the vaccine. And you can't sue vaccine companies.
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: There was immunity granted.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Why do you need immunity, folks?
• 23:30
  Speaker 7: Why did the governor give immunity to all the hospitals
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: during COVID and the doctors? You can't sue them in negligence.
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: There's a federal statute which immunizes pharmaceutical company. We trial
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: lawyers hate immunity bills.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: We don't think we should have them.
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: There's qualified immunity, law enforcement, another issue. So people have
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: to do protectionist things. We're not going to get the–
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: it's going to be a long slog.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: And that immunity goes all the way back to what,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: to like the 80s, right? It's a Reagan thing. It depends, yeah.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Of course, it was passed under– this is why I'm.
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: A little bit of a curious thing to trial lawyers.
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: Being a Republican trial lawyer is a little oxymoronic. because
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: we don't like tort reform and that kind of thing.
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: And what is tort reform? But restricting the rights of victims.
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: We want people to get fair compensation, but a lot
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: of people will not. They'll never get compensation for COVID.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Look what happened. I want to mention this one thing.
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: The USS Comfort, a good friend of mine, a trial
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: lawyer for the government, His sister was a nurse. They
• 24:27
  Speaker 7: had no patients on the USS Comfort, or they had
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: overflow patients. The Javits Center, how quickly we forget it's
• 24:34
  Speaker 7: six years ago. In New York, they established the Javits Center.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: It was empty. Andrew Cuomo sent all the white-haired people
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: to die.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: And he'll never be held accountable. Mismanagement. Right. The culling
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: of the herd. And the truth is a lot of
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: the people who died had comorbidities. They were obese. They
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: were smokers.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Diabetics and other issues.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Right. Well, that's something we've talked about this over and
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: over again. If you really dig deep into the actual numbers.
• 24:59
  Speaker 8: Yep.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: You know, they just said people who die, die.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: If they had COVID, they died of COVID. That's not true.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: It's not a fact.
• 25:06
  Speaker 7: And there were financial incentives that coded it a certain way.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: We got a phone call the other day.
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: I don't mind telling you. My wife had a procedure.
• 25:13
  Speaker 7: We got a letter saying we owe $ 250, 000.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: You do? Yeah, I got a letter. And my wife
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: nearly had a heart attack.
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: And she called her health care friend and said, it's
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: obviously a coding issue.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: You think? Well, that was what she told me before
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I went to bed. You get that instant heart attack, though.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? I'm going to be Fred Sanford.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Gloria, I'm coming for you.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: Quarter million?
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: 2,000, 3,000 I can handle.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: That was kind of scary. Oh, yeah.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Whenever I get the ping on the phone and I
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: see it from the hospital or a medical thing, I'm like, oh, no.
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: I don't want to open this thing. I don't want
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: to open it at all.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: All right, 860-464-9490. You can give us a call. We'll
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: grab a call or two, but we'd love to hear
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: from you guys. 860-464-9490.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: 4-6-4-9-4-9-0. I'm waiting for them to tell.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Me who it is, Judge. No problem.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: But I still want to go back to, really, really quick,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: just because I had a run-in with a couple of,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: a very nice liberal family on Wednesday who, you know,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: we just got to talking. I was in a store,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: and it's just, he was a trial lawyer. I was
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: going to talk to him about you, but he never
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: practiced in Connecticut.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: He was in Ohio. She was a teacher.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: And, you know, we just started talking about the state
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: of everything. And what's shocking to me is they're happy.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Like they say, oh, the taxes are too high, but
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: everything else is okay. Services are okay. I just find
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: that surprising. I think some people live in this.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Well, it's good to be happy, and I hate to
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: say it, it's good to be dumb and happy.
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: I think I saw a text from a friend this
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: morning who got off social media, stopped watching the news.
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: You know, the problem is you can consume too much.
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: You can get stressed out. Try not to stress over
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: that which you have no control. If you've got control,
• 26:52
  Speaker 7: that's one thing. So you've got to take it in
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: bits and pieces. If you listen to too much negativity, right,
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: it's just going to bum you out.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Do you think, though, I'm going to ask one more
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Fauci question because we don't have any calls.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: For this segment.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: If you guys want to call in real quick, which
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: I'm shocked. I mean, everyone I thought was going to
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: want to talk about Fauci. But just a look of,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: I think, 111 people.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: Taking the fifth, right? So he's taking the fifth 111
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: different times. I mean, it's good. His history. Have you
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: ever seen anything like that in the court?
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Not that much.
• 27:23
  Speaker 7: Certainly understanding you have to take the fifth. When he
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: was asked by Josh Hawley, what color is the carpet?
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: What color is the tie? And you know what was
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: going on there? That was very purposeful. That's called a setup.
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: So what they're going to do is they're going to
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: take that transcript and they're going to show that there
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: was no criminal exposure. by answering what color is your tie.
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: That could be the predicate for charging him with contempt
• 27:46
  Speaker 7: of Congress. And by the way, if the lawyer says
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: don't answer what color is the carpet.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: That's not valid.
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: Really?
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: That's bad. Think about it.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: What color is the carpet? What color is your tie?
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: I mean, if you say, and you're declining to answer
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: every question, that could show an obstruction. And it's arguable.
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: Do I think he may be charged? Yeah, there's a possibility. Again,
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: it's all political.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: You've got the Rs controlling the House right now.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: All right, let me get one away from the legal scenario.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: You saw where Trump actually.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: They deliberated.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: What's the word I'm looking for?
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: They negotiated. Thank you.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Deal with Hamas. I mean, this looks like if it sticks.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, do I have any faith that it's going
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: to stick?
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: No.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: But, I mean, at least he tries.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: It seems like we can say all we want negative
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: about him.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: And I critique him just as much as anybody else.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: But the guy is trying stuff. He tries.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: No, it's okay. You know what I think they ought
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: to do, though? It's like Chicken Little. I said this before.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I come from the William Casey School of Intelligence. Just
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: do it. Don't talk about it.
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: Let's have a sustained piece. We keep talking about the
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: deal going to happen, and commentators are saying it on
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: both sides. I forgot the liberal senator's name from Tennessee
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: or congressman who's on Fox and the Five.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Just don't talk about it. Just do it.
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: We've heard this so many times that we're conditioned to
• 29:03
  Speaker 7: disbelieve it. We want him to succeed, right? We want
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: a lasting peace. But how many times has it been broken?
• 29:09
  Speaker 7: I don't trust the Islamofascists as far as I can throw. Iraq, Iran,
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: don't trust them.
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: Agreed.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Let me grab one call before we run out.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Pat and Franklin, you're on with the judge. Good morning.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Hi, Lee.
• 29:20
  Speaker 8: Hi, Judd.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Good morning.
• 29:21
  Speaker 9: Thanks for this conversation. Yeah, I just wanted to comment on, like,
• 29:28
  Speaker 9: I'm a small business owner in Connecticut here, and I
• 29:31
  Speaker 9: watched a Fauci hearing, and I'm getting to the point
• 29:34
  Speaker 9: now where I'm so cynical of government, where I have
• 29:38
  Speaker 9: daily interactions with government regulations, regulators, agents of the state.
• 29:44
  Speaker 9: And it just seems like on every level there's a
• 29:47
  Speaker 9: double standard. And the little guy is always held to
• 29:51
  Speaker 9: the account of every T being crossed and I being dotted.
• 29:55
  Speaker 9: And it's just– it's wearing on us guys where I'm
• 29:58
  Speaker 9: like I'm kind of having enough where there's no accountability
• 30:02
  Speaker 9: even on the state level. Yet us, the small people,
• 30:06
  Speaker 9: are like the agents of the state everywhere I turn
• 30:09
  Speaker 9: saying you have to do it this way. You have
• 30:11
  Speaker 9: to report on a certain deadline. But on their end,
• 30:14
  Speaker 9: there's none of that.
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's brutal.
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: It's not only state government. You see it in corporate America, right?
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: You're going down a rabbit hole. You get a wrong number.
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: You're referred to somebody else. And when you do get
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: somebody that helps you, you're so thankful.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: You get a state person like there is a state
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: labor board for folks. I want to give some a
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: little advice here. And if you have a question, there's
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: actually lawyers in the Department of Labor and they're not
• 30:39
  Speaker 7: assistant attorneys general, but they will give you advice and
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: they will direct you.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I was shocked one day. I called them in Hartford
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: and they answered. I was very thankful.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: We pay a lot of tax dollars. We should get
• 30:48
  Speaker 7: some services. So I share your frustration.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: It's hard.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: Well, Thanks, guys. Appreciate the conversation.
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: Thank you.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Thank you, brother.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: We're pretty much out of time, Judge. Where do they
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: find you, buddy?
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: Well, they can find me at Nazaro Law. I'm across
• 31:00
  Speaker 7: from the Washington Street Coffee House in New London.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Stop by. I'll buy you a coffee. I am a
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: personal injury specialist, also criminal. I'm going to court today.
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: I see you.
• 31:08
  Speaker 7: I've got to go to criminal court. Then I'm going
• 31:09
  Speaker 7: to the hospital. Unfortunate person, injured. That's what I do.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Very narrow. So you go and just talk to them
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: and interview them? Well, they called me up. So we've
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: got a person that needs a lawyer.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: That's what I mean. So you go and just sort
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: of feel them out, what happened, all that good stuff?
• 31:22
  Speaker 7: Well, Judge whether there's a case there. You're talking life-altering injuries,
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: so I'm glad to do what I do.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: I still have my marbles.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Talk to me at 4.30.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Another story.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: All right, brother. Have a good week. We'll talk to
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: you next time.
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: We'll come back. My brother will be here. The Colonel
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: has joined us.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Each and every week we sit down and chat with
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Colonel Stephen Bucci, Heritage Foundation, Heritage.org, S.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: Bucci on the X. Good morning, Colonel. How are you today?
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: Good morning to you, Lenny. I'm doing fine. I hope
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: you are as well.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: So, you know, I guess we were close to the
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: single biggest military operation since World.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: War II, which, you know, that gives you a little
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: bit of an uneasy feeling.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: But what are your general thoughts on that?
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: Well, it kind of depends on how you define that.
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: It's a little tough comparison to go over something that
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: was four years long versus something that was going to
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: be one strike. But I'm kind of disappointed it didn't occur.
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: I don't think it's going to be– we're not going
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: to drop the number of bombs that were dropped in
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: World War II. I don't know why the president feels
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: compelled to use that level of hyperbole. But he was
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: ready to really take them to the woodshed. But because
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: one of our good friends and allies, the Saudis, came
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: to us and said, hey, how about hold up on
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: this because they're kind of beating up our energy infrastructure.
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: You know, I understand why maybe that would cause the
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: president to hold off a bit. But to be honest
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: with you, I think I would have told the crown prince, hey, look,
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: I get it. How about if we get you some
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: additional defense assets? We'll put some more aircraft in the
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: air along your borders to help you defend it. But no,
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: this is a sign that the Iranians are scared to
• 33:33
  Speaker 6: death that we're going to go after their energy infrastructure.
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: So they're threatening our allies' energy infrastructure so that we'll
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: back off. We should not reward them for that action.
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: We should take out their energy infrastructure. And if that
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: requires us later to help some of our allies reconstitute
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: some of theirs, okay, we can do that. But just
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: this backing off stuff at the last minute I don't
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: think is helpful. I was a big supporter of giving
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: the president as much leeway as he needed to– to
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: make the deal, but I think the deal is just
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: a pipe dream, and we need to go the other way.
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: The carrot has failed. Get out the biggest stick you
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: want to get out, Mr. President, and start whooping them
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: with it.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: So this talk of peace right now, you don't believe
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: it's ever going to come to pass, is what you're saying?
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: I do not. Not with the people that are in
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: charge of the country right now. They're in Iran. They're liars.
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: They don't really care about peace. They want conflict and war,
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: but they want it on their terms. And if they
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: can get freebies along the way, it might get the
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: Americans and everybody else to back off and say, OK, well,
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: you guys, you run the Straits of Hormuz. Just make
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: sure you do it within these parameters. That would be
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: a huge loss for us and a mistake. I just
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: don't think we're going to get there through negotiations.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Any thoughts why they targeted the large Muslim populations, the
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: water infrastructure with the cyber attacks? Any thoughts on why
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: those particular ones?
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: Well, we don't know that they really did that or
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: did somebody else do it or was it just poor
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: management on the part of the Minnesota government, which we
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: know is not the most efficient organization in the world
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: or the most effective.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: True.
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: But so that requires and should be given some additional
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: scrutiny for sure. But I don't know if it's for
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: sure the Iranians who did it. If it was the Iranians, well,
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: you know what? We should start turning off some of
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: their stuff, too. We can do that cyber wise. We
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: don't have to use kinetic means to do it. The
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: Iranians do have a fairly robust cyber attack capability. But
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: it is minuscule compared to ours. So why not do
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: a little tit for tat? They're famous for liking to
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: do that. Let's give them a little bit back. You
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: did this to us. We'll turn off everything in your country.
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: If it's not them, if we don't have evidence that
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: it's them, I could understand not doing anything yet. But
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: I'd like to know the truth. I don't know the
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: truth there as to whether they were really to blame
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: or not. But we need to look into it, and
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: if it is them, back to the woodshed.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Right. We're talking to Colonel Stephen Bucci about the Iranian situation.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: So we have that to talk about. And, you know,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: also I wanted to ask you, go back to the
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: big whooping stick. So do you think the Iranians are
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: sort of playing the slow game here just because they can,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: or are they waiting for the midterms in.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Your mind, Colonel?
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: A little of both. they don't really have the capability
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: to radically alter the balance through kinetic means. Their capability
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: has been greatly degraded, but they can interfere with this
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: enough to make it an issue and then offer to
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: negotiate and drag these things out. And I think for
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: sure they're trying to drag it out through the midterms
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: because they recognize there is a lot of resistance to
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: it in the United States, both on the liberal side,
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: for sure, but even on the far end of the
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: conservative side. So they're happy to do anything that would
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: cause President Trump to be affected negatively or his supporters
• 38:08
  Speaker 6: in the midterms. And if they can get, you know,
• 38:12
  Speaker 6: in some way contribute to the Dems getting control of
• 38:16
  Speaker 6: the House and the Senate again during the midterms, they
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: recognize that, you know, they're going to have a lot
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: less trouble if President Trump is spending all of his
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: time responding to impeachment proceedings, first in the House and
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: then in the Senate, which If they control both of
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: them for the next two years, starting in January, I
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: don't think the president's going to get much done.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Right. Colonel Stephen Bucci, so just so we're all on
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: the same page, we're for taking out the big whooping
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: stick and getting the job done that way. And also,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: I would think you before, if in particular we know
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: that it was them who cyber attacked us, we should
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: cyber attack them and shut them down that way.
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we're already doing a lot of
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: kinetic stuff, though we keep doing this stop and start nonsense.
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: But the kinetic stuff, you could just keep doing that.
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: And if we have anything akin to good hard evidence
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: that it was really them who did these water treatment
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: plant incursions there in Minnesota, I think we need to
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: go for it. We shouldn't allow anybody to do that,
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: but we've got to make sure we're going after the
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: right target. It is easier to obfuscate the genesis of
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: that kind of attack than it is to do it
• 39:50
  Speaker 6: with a kinetic attack. You know, you could be sneakier
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: in cyber and get away with it. So until we
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: determine who that really is who did it, you know,
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: we don't want to turn loose our cyber dogs, but
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: they're ready and they are really, really capable. So that
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: option is there.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: So, Colonel, I ran into a– I don't really listen
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: to a lot of podcasts, but I happen to be
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: listening to one by chance over the weekend. And I
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: can't think of the colonel– I think it was either
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: a colonel or a general or a retired general's name.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: But I wanted to throw at you some of the
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: things that he had said and get your opinion on that.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: And a couple of the things were that what we're
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: doing right now is basically tit-for-tat.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: Kind of thing with the Iranians.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: And long term, that will do absolutely nothing.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: And if, if, if we really want to affect forever
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: type change in that region, we need, and he used
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: the word boots on the ground, but not boots on
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: the ground, invasion wise boots on the ground, as you
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: had said, Karg Island, some of the other places, the
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: choke points in the Straits, would you, you know, be
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: in agreement with that still as far as a way to,
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: to sort of slow them down and put an end
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: to this?
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: You know, I, I think that may be what we
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: end up going with. I'm not quite ready to say
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: that's the only option we have yet. We have not
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: done standoff kinetic attacks against their energy infrastructure, against the
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: other dual-use infrastructure that's in the country. We have not
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: raised the game to that level. So there's that step
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: in between that and putting boots on the ground, even with,
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: you know, limiting parameters, like we're only going to go
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: on Karg Island. You know, maybe we'll put some special
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: operators in to work with some of the dissident groups
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: and try and get that going. There are things we
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: could do short of deploying, you know, infantry divisions to
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: the mainland of Iran. I don't think we should do
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: that yet, but we need to start, you know, and
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: I know that the lads, gals back during the Pentagon
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: are doing this. They're doing the planning for all those
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: potential options. But I think it may be time to
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: start going on that higher level standoff attack mode, looking
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: for the possibility to go for the limited parameter boots
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: on the ground options. We can't let this government stay there. That,
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: in my mind, is a non-starter option. We know that
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: they have the plan and are more than willing to
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: do whatever they need to to continue their nuclear weapons drive.
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: And if they're still doing that, they are not going
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: to stop. I mean, we killed two and a half
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: layers of leadership in the country, and it didn't seem
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: to even slow them down in their intentions. Why do
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: we think working with those same folks are going to,
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: you know, that we're going to come up with a
• 43:08
  Speaker 6: good solution now. I think that's kind of delusional. And,
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: you know, I never thought President Trump was delusional. But
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: whoever is advising him, whether it's Vice President Vance or
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: somebody else, that, hey, we've got to get a deal, boss.
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: The deal is superior. In this case, I think that's
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: the wrong advice.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: If it ever comes down to boots on the ground,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: and I know people hate that term, and rightfully so,
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: but will we ever see Arab boots on the ground?
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: You know, I've been asked that before. Our Arab allies
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: are not that capable from an offensive standpoint with their
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: ground troops. Their ground troops... And some of the countries
• 43:56
  Speaker 6: aren't even their citizens. They're people that they hire. You know,
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: the Kuwaitis have Kuwaiti officers, but most of their troops
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: are Pakistanis or people from, you know, poor people from
• 44:10
  Speaker 6: other Arab countries. They're not this, you know, tuned-up, hardcore
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: military that's designed to take terrain in other countries. They're
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: designed to do defensive operations if somebody attacks them. But
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: that's a different capability set than doing a ground attack
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: on another country, particularly one as big and as rough
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: in terrain as Iran is. So I think I won't
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: say it's not a possibility, but I think it's a
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: pretty darn small possibility that we'll ever see that.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Colonel Stephen Bucci with us. You can go on Heritage.org
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: for more info on him.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: Go to S. Bucci on the X. It's a great follow.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: One more from me.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, Trump always seemingly says things like we've completely
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: degraded their military, and yet they still continue to fire
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: on neighboring countries. So in your mind, he says they're obliterated,
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: but clearly they're not. What do you think they have left?
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: It's very limited capabilities. It's, you know, and that's, uh,
• 45:21
  Speaker 6: you know, it would be nicer if the president didn't
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: say that kind of stuff, in my opinion, because it
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: does lead to confusion because civilians hear that and they think, oh,
• 45:32
  Speaker 6: they've got nothing left to shoot back. But they do. Uh, and, and,
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: you know, it's, it's almost impossible to completely eliminate every
• 45:42
  Speaker 6: gun and every trigger puller that a country has. Uh,
• 45:47
  Speaker 6: But there's a whale of a lot less of them,
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: you know, like 85% decrease of what they had before.
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: That's pretty darn significant. In most countries that were not
• 46:02
  Speaker 6: the kind of fanatical believers that the Iranians are, an
• 46:06
  Speaker 6: 85% loss of their military capability that they spent 47
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: years paying for and developing would have caused them to
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: give up.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: It doesn't work that way with the Iranians because they
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: don't care. They're happy to die if they think it'll
• 46:24
  Speaker 6: bring about what in their twisted minds is God's will. But,
• 46:31
  Speaker 6: you know, so he needs to speak that kind of
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: stuff more accurately. Otherwise, people go, wait a minute, they're
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: still shooting at ships. They've got something. And they imagine
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: that everything the president said was a lie. It's not
• 46:45
  Speaker 6: a lie. It's just. That's not– you can't completely eliminate
• 46:51
  Speaker 6: that capability with any sort of use. It's really hard
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: to get rid of every missile and every drone. And
• 47:01
  Speaker 6: drones are a bigger problem because they're cheaper, they're faster
• 47:05
  Speaker 6: to build. They could have people sitting in basements building
• 47:08
  Speaker 6: drones as we speak and probably do. You don't even
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: need a full-up factory to build them like you might–
• 47:15
  Speaker 6: with higher technology, missile tech stuff.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: But, I mean, of what they had for an Air Force,
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: that's gone.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: And how much do you think of their Navy is gone? 70%, 80%?
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: What do they have.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Left of that?
• 47:30
  Speaker 6: The vast majority of their Navy is gone. All of
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: their vessels of significant size are gone. They pretty much
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: don't have anything left in their Navy other than patrol
• 47:42
  Speaker 6: boats and dams, you know, downbeams. dips and things like that.
• 47:47
  Speaker 6: The trouble is you can go out and make mischief
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: with an unarmed tanker, even with that kind of stuff.
• 47:54
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: One more.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: I said one more, but I got one more quick one.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Missile that left a crater deep inside Poland was probably Russian.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: This happened a couple of times. Any residuals or negative
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: feedback from that?
• 48:08
  Speaker 6: That the Polish government while responding exactly the way you
• 48:13
  Speaker 6: would hope they would as far as identifying and getting
• 48:17
  Speaker 6: control of any damage that occurred, using their radar technologies
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: to track back the trajectory so that they have good
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: forensics of what really happened, and then telling the truth that, yeah,
• 48:31
  Speaker 6: this was the Russians. But they said, I think, remarkably
• 48:36
  Speaker 6: reasonably— We're pretty sure this was a mistake that they did.
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: And so we're not going to take any retaliatory action.
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: But Russia, get control of your troops. This should not
• 48:50
  Speaker 6: happen again. But I got to tell you, the Poles
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: are not afraid of the Russians because I think Poland
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: could kick Russians behind alone. short of the nuclear options,
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: that the Polish military is far more capable than the
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: Russian military is.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Amazing.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: All right, Colonel, thank you so much for everything today.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: As always, I appreciate you, and we'll talk to you
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: again next week.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: But have a great week.
• 49:17
  Speaker 6: Thanks. You as well, Lee. Take care. and have a
• 49:19
  Speaker 6: good one.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: All right, brother.
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: There you go. Colonel Stephen Bucci, find him again on
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: the X. And, again, great follow on S. Bucci. All right,
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: we'll come right back. Stick around.
• 49:28
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• 49:32
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• 50:43
  Speaker 2: on here in the state of Connecticut and sometimes beyond.
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  Speaker 3: Ben, good morning. How was your weekend?
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Everything good?
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: Not too bad. Kind of quiet. We're on a flood
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: watch right now. We're back in monsoon season in Connecticut.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: It's rained a lot.
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: I don't think we've had this much rain in a
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: long time in a summer season.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: I'm convinced there's been a climate alteration or weather alteration.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: We start the summer later, and then it starts without
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: a spring, and then it goes longer.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: And then there's really.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: Not as much fall. So there's not as much fall,
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: not as much spring. That's just my opinion of the
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: last decade.
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're right. Probably getting longer summers and
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: longer winters and shorter in-betweens.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Right. That's my opinion, if it's worth it.
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: So before we get into this poll, is this the
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: time that the campaigns– I mean, I know we have primaries.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: We can talk about those. The primary happens tomorrow. No,
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: next week. Oh, yeah, next week.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: We started early voting today. I'm sorry. Early voting starts today.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: My fault. My apologies.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: So that's next Tuesday, but people can start voting today, right?
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: Just want to tell them once over on that.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: Yep. We start early voting today, and it goes through Sunday,
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: seven days. You can find your voting location definitely on
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: the Secretary of State's election page. All early voting locations
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: are listed there. And there's obviously a statewide Democrat primary,
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: so every town will be holding a Democratic primary. And
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: in eastern Connecticut, there's a couple of legislative primaries on
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: our side. In the 19th Senate District, there's a primary.
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: I think it's the 50th District. There's a, up in
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: the northeast corner of the state house, there's a primary.
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: And I say there's one other one, but I keep
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: I know there's one in Waterbury out of the Waterbury
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: Middlebury state rep seat. And then, of course, the fifth
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: congressional district and the fourth congressional district for the Republicans.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: OK, well, so it's not it's not as widespread as
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: the Democrats. So there's not as many Republicans going toe
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: to toe. But it'll be interesting. And like I said,
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: we have the Mike France situation here in our own backyard.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: So we'll follow that very, very closely and folks can
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: get out. and again, and start voting today, up and
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: through next Tuesday. So thank you for that info.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: All right, so you just sent me this poll. There's
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: a couple of polls out, but we can focus on
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: the one that you sent me, which is.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: Lamont holds wide lead over Fazio. That's what the headline
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: says in Sacred Heart University poll. What do you make
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: of this one?
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting. He's right at 50%, and given... as
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: a two-term governor who claims all these great successes, only
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: 50% of the people are saying he should get reelected
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: right now, or that they would vote for him today.
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: And almost 30% of the people are saying they would
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: vote for Ryan, and he's nowhere near as well-known as
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: the governor. His policies and positions haven't really been out
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: there as the governor's had for eight years. And I
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: think you're looking at what's going to come down to
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: a very tight race. And I think this primary is
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: going to really show, I think, a lot of the
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: governor's weakness, particularly on his own side. And then as
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: we move into the general election, I think you're going
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: to find more and more people beginning to say, wait
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: a minute, you know, You've been there for eight years,
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: and your campaign slogan is, we've only just started. What
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: have you been doing for the last eight years? That
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: might work in your first reelect. Okay, we're just getting
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: started here. But now you're two terms into this. You're
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: eight years into it. You've created one of the highest
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: property tax structures, energy rates, insurance rates, health care costs
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: that exist in this country, and you're just getting started.
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: I can't imagine what you're going to do to a
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: follow-up to that. But that's what he's claiming. So, you know,
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: I do love the Josh Elliott line, the Ned Lamont campaign,
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: where good ideas go to die. You know, even the
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: Democrat should look at this, go, yeah, no, no more.
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: We're kind of done with this.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's interesting, too. Elliott has really it's funny.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: His campaigns are basically exactly what a Republican would say
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: pretty much.
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: Against Ned Lamont.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: So if Elliott were to be the candidate, would he
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: do things similar to what Fazio? Every time I see
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: his ad about cost of living and high taxes and
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: all of that stuff, I kind of laugh. I'm like, okay,
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: you're kind of doing Ryan's biddings for him.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously I don't think he would govern in the
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: same way. His solution to the high-cost-of-living problem is to
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: tax more. and bring more revenue in and have the
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: government control more of the economy than the private sector
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: and taking it out of a market-based economy and really
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: into a government-run, government-based economy. There's a reason why almost
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: his entire senior campaign team was the Mondami senior campaign team.
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: That's how he looked at things. And to Josh's credit,
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: you know, what you see with Josh is what you get.
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: What he tells you he wants to do is what
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: he wants to do. You know, he's very upfront. He
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: is very honest. He's not hiding anything from you. And so,
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: you know, kudos to him for that. But, you know,
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: the things he's not hiding from you are going to
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: make it worse.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Not better. Sure.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: So, you know, that whole mantra of the Democrat Socialists
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: of America, that platform, I actually think it's beginning to
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: actually scare people. some of these non-committed voters right now.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: I'm talking to some of my friends who are out
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: there knocking on doors, and to my surprise, they're saying
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: that in conversations that they're having, Ben, that people.
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: Are talking about this.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: They're a little nervous, more than a little nervous, about
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: the possibility of us being thrown into full-out socialism.
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So here's an interesting thing for you. Back mid
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: or so June, There were two Democrat members of Congress,
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: one from New York and I believe the other was
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: from Virginia, who beat Republicans in 2024 and took what
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: had been long-term Republican seats and put out a pledge
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: for Democrats to sign that basically says we're capitalists, not socialists.
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: The only two people who signed it are the two
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: guys who put it out. None of the other members
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: of the Democratic caucus in Washington will sign it.
• 57:46
  Speaker 6: Why?
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: Why? That should be an easy one. Sure. You know,
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: but they really have become very afraid of the AOCs
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: and President Crockett and, you know, what they're seeing, you know,
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: in some of these primaries around the country where DSA
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: candidates are winning elections. And truthfully, I think to some extent,
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: one of the reasons why the DSA candidates are winning
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: in Democratic primaries are they're offering new solutions and new
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: ideas to problems. Now, you and I think those solutions
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: and ideas are one counter to everything that this country
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: stands for.
• 58:28
  Speaker 6: That's fine.
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, we're entitled to our opinions. Right. But for
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: a lot of these Democrats out there, you know, John
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: Larson being one of them, God bless, I've known John
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: a very long time. You know, when you get John going,
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: he talks about what? Social Security. And that's what he's
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: been talking about since he got there. And he continues
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: to put forth the same ideas, the same solutions to
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: the same problems, none of which have worked in the past,
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: but we continue to do them. And to some extent,
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: I think a lot of the DSA candidates are putting
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: out there new ways of doing things. that we think
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: actually are harmful, but they're finding a voice and they're
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: finding people who will listen saying, look, I've been with
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: this guy for 20 years and he hasn't fixed anything.
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: He keeps giving me the same ideas. At least I
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: have a different way of looking at it. I think
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: ultimately people are going to look back on their votes,
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: and I think you're going to see that coming up
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: next year in particular when we go back to the municipals,
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: when a lot of people voted for people to be
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: the mayors and first elects in their town because they
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: didn't like the guy in Washington, they're now sitting there going, oh,
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: my God, what did I do? This was a really
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: bad idea to vote against somebody to put an incompetent
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: person in because I didn't like somebody who has very
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: little impact on my daily life and my town. And
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: I think you're going to find a lot of that
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: coming out. And you're right, we're hearing it as well,
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: people going to the doors going, This DSA stuff scares me.
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: This socialist stuff, communism stuff really scares me.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: So is a winning response to that, Ben?
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: And it's something I talk about all the time.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: And I know my listeners may be getting tired of
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: me screaming about personal responsibility.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: But I mean.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: Can candidates win by saying the government's not a babysitter
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: for you? They're not supposed to be in every aspect
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: of your life. You know, you're supposed to be a
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: free person and you should want to be free and
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: you shouldn't want this overreach of the government.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: But with that also comes.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: You know, this, you can't promise, you can't go out
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: and promise the sun, the stars, and the moon to
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: everybody when you don't have the money to pay for it. So,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, how does that trade-off work when you're out
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: there talking.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: To the people?
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: I think it's an interesting, it's an interesting, you know,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: comment and position. And, you know, kind of when you
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: look back over history and some of the great democracies
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: that have existed before, ultimately, they all, you know, failed
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: upon themselves, because what ended up happening is, in many cases,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: the people started looking around going, I want more free stuff.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: And it became problematic. And, you know, if we don't
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: begin to learn from history, you know, you tend to
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: repeat it. And so I think, you know, looking at
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: where we are and kind of the generational divide that
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: we have, the very fact that we have a boomer generation,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: a Gen X generation, you know, a millennial generation, a
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: Gen Z generation, all of whom get the vote, all
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: of whom have different outlets on how this should be done,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: brings about an interesting outcome. And so I think you
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: can make an argument that, you know, we can, you're
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: better off if you take care of yourself and you,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: provide for your family rather than the government, because ultimately
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: the government's going to do a really bad job of it.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: We've seen what happens in those systems where the government
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: does that. And the government-run health system that we have
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: in Medicare, Medicaid, VA sucks. When you look at government-run
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: health insurance programs, they're horrible. They don't do anything. They
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: just take money. Everything the government tries to run in
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: the private sector, it screws up eventually. And that makes
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: your life more difficult. And those are not always easy
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: concepts to explain because they take time to play out.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: But I do think a campaign run on the personal responsibility,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: but more importantly, the marketplace and how you can succeed
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: in the marketplace without the government is one that can work.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: It has worked. We've seen it work in this country
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: time and time and time again. But I do believe
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: it's one that can and will work.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: Well, I talked this morning, just two big things that
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: are plaguing people right now. I talked about two things
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: this morning, just made two examples. One was housing. The
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: other was student loan debt. And it wasn't nearly as
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: awful as it is now 30, 40 years ago when
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: the government wasn't actually giving out student loans. And they weren't,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: you know, there wasn't a Fannie Mae, Freddie Mae, you know,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: making sure every single loan was backed by the assurance
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: of the government. And what happens when you do that? Well,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: automatically the prices of all that go through the roof. Right.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: If you're setting a college tuition and you know the
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: federal government is going to give every kid a minimum
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: of $ 8, 000 in basically low-interest loans that they don't even
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: have to pay while they can wait until they get
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: out if they're a subsidized loan, don't you set your
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: pricing that way?
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: I always found it interesting when my kids were looking
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: at colleges. And I remember this. My daughter looked at
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: Hofstra and Manhattan College, Manhattanville. She looked at some very
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: large schools and some very smaller schools. And what was
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: interesting is, for the most part, their tuitions were within $ 1, 000
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: of each other. And I looked around one day and
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: I said, I don't understand. How can Hofstra that has
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: a couple of hundred acres of land, a hundred and
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: some odd buildings, you know, a staff of, you know,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: over 10,000 people be within $ 1, 000 of Manhattan College that's
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: got 22 buildings and a staff of maybe 1,000 to 1,500 people,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: and they're all within $ 1, 000 of each other.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: Because the government set the pricing structure when they gave
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: away free money.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: But what these kids finally figured out when they got
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: out was, what do you mean, it wasn't free? I
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: got to pay them?
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: How am I going to pay this?
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: And look what happened with health care.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: It's the same thing.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: The same thing with health care when we went to Obamacare.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: You know, everybody thinks Obamacare is a be-all and end-all.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm getting health insurance for $ 100 a month
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: for my premium. Yeah, but you got a $ 20, 000 deductible.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: No, I get it.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: I get it.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: You're going to get preventative care, so you don't have
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: to pay when you go for your physical. You don't
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: have to pay, you know, if you go get a vaccine. Okay,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: that's fine. But when you get sick, You know, and
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: the doctor sends you the bill for the $ 700 visit. Right. Well,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: that goes towards your $ 20, 000 deductible. You got another $ 19, 300
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: to go, and then your health insurance will kick in.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, yes, the government screwed it up.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: Everything the government touches, it screws up and makes life
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: more difficult.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, can you think of one?
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: As you're speaking, I'm trying to think of one, you know,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: program that the government runs. Even... Even our war program,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: even our military, you know, albeit I want to throw
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: as much money at that as possible, it's just poorly run.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: I mean, we have so much waste in that.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: But even that, even what we're supposed to do right,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: we can't do right. So give me one aspect, Social Security.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, some people will say if you were allowed to,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's some studies that say if you're allowed
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: to invest it yourself, you'd have 10 times as much
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: money at the end.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's crazy. They don't just do a bad job.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: And Social Security, we put the money in for retirement
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: that we were promised would be there, and then when
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: the government was short on money, well, we'll just go
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: borrow it from that fund and put it over here
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: and just never repay it. And then not only did
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: they screw up Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid, but
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: the money they took from that to move over to
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: the general fund, they pissed that away, as you said,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: in really bad decisions and financial decisions. So now they
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: don't have the money there, and they don't have the
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: money in the other funds, which become problematic. There is
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: nothing the government runs that could be run by the
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: private sector that the more cost-effectively, and provide a better
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: service for them.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: Agreed.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: All right, Ben Proto, chairman of Connecticut's Republican Party. Any
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: place you want the listeners to go check out what's
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: going on?
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: Any website, anything like that?
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 7: Ct.gop.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: We're going to be launching a new website this week.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: But if you need to find out where your early
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: voting location is, if you go to the Secretary of
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: State's website, ct.gop. Under the elections tab, you can click
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: on early voting sites. In every town, early voting sites
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: are there. Some towns have more than one early voting site.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: So click to see where those are. And please, you know, everybody,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: you know, Democrats, probably go out and vote. But Republicans
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: in particular, go use early voting. Do not be afraid
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: of early voting. It's new format this year. You're actually
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: going to vote your ballot. You're going to put your
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: ballot in the machine, and it's going to go through.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: No more envelopes. No more put in the box. Hope
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: they take it out on Election Day.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: And count it.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: All right, Ben, I'll talk to you next time. Thank you.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: Take care, buddy.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: You got it.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: Ben Proto, chairman of the Republican Party, shares his views
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: on Monday mornings.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: All right, a couple things.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: Fireman's Day, Fireman's Day Fair is happening August 7th and 8th.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: That's this, what, Friday and Saturday, right? Friday and Saturday?
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: Or is that Thursday and Friday?
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: What is it?
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: No, it's Friday and Saturday. over at Goshen Fire Department.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: Check that out. Lots of good fun. All kinds of
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: cool stuff.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: Going on at the Goshen Firehouse.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: Vets Golf Classic at Lake of Isles, September 28th. That's
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: a ways away, but not that far away. Vetsct.org has
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: all the information. They need sponsors and golfers at one
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: of the finest golf courses around. So if you fancy
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: yourself a great golfer but never played the Lake of Isles,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: this is your opportunity to play one of the best-looking
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: courses in the area. Ron's Guns, fourth annual tent sale.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: That's happening on Saturday, this Saturday, from 10 to 5.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: And apparently they're going to have a little, well, how
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: do I say this and be politically correct? Little people,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: I guess. Little people.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: Little Trump and little Melania will be there. If that
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: excites you, and why wouldn't it? Any questions, call up
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: our friends at Ron's Guns, 860-739-6805.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: That's 860-739-6805. All right, we'll take a break. When we
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: come back.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: I think we have more chances for either a rip
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: and read or some phone calls, either one. If you'd
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: like to get in a little bit earlier than normal,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: we'll take some phone calls before we get to Bucci.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: 9 o'clock hour, we've got Coach and maybe the Ebony Chief.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: Coach with a big announcement. We'll get to that a
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: little bit later on.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: Maybe get up and dance a little bit. What do
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: you think? You want to dance?
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: Hmm.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: Got to move the hips, though.