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Teen devils in Dayton, Ohio go on Christmas murder spree 'for fun' · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. It's Christmas time and families
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Speaker 1: all over the world are gathering together to celebrate the
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Speaker 1: joy of the Christmas season. But that is not necessarily
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Speaker 1: true for many many others across the world. Crime Stories
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Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace, this is a tangled web of deceit,
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Speaker 1: of coercion, and murder. For the longest time, police could
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Speaker 1: not connect the dots, and for good reason. Take a
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Speaker 1: listen to this Christmas Eve. The first victim was discovered,
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Speaker 1: eighteen year old Danita Gillette. She was shot while using
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Speaker 1: a pay phone at what used to be a neighborhood
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Speaker 1: store for her gym shoes. He was a happy, go
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Speaker 1: lucky person, somewhat shy, not really outgoing. She was very loving,
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Speaker 1: she was very caring. She was easy to be around.
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Speaker 1: I had every confidence in the world, So my trooster
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Speaker 1: would have been something amazing. You were just hearing Becky
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Speaker 1: Grimes of HIO News Center seven and the voice of
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Speaker 1: doctor Ronda Galette. Ronda Gillette is Danta's sister, and right now,
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Speaker 1: doctor Gillett is joining us along with an all star
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Speaker 1: panel including Kathleen Murphy, North Carolina trial lawyer Professor Michael Draine,
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Speaker 1: forensic psychologist and professor at Antioch University and host of
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Speaker 1: the un Popular Culture podcast and The Christmas Killing Spree
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Speaker 1: The Psychology of Spree Murder. Doyle Burke is with us
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Speaker 1: former Dayton homicide detective who worked this case and chief
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Speaker 1: investigator Warren County Coroner, doctor Kendall Crown's Deputy Medical Examiner
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Speaker 1: Travis County That's Austin, Texas, and Crime online dot Com
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Speaker 1: investigative reporter Levi Page. Let me first start with Danita's sister,
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Speaker 1: doctor Ronda Gillett. Doctor Gillett, thank you for being with
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Speaker 1: us at the very beginning when Danita's body was discovered
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Speaker 1: there at that pay phone. No one had any idea
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Speaker 1: what was to unfold, a specter that still haunts the
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Speaker 1: city of Dayton. But I know you remember the moment
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Speaker 1: you learned your sister was dead. What happened? It was
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Speaker 1: nightmare from me and my family. Uh, it was it
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Speaker 1: was just surreal. We Uh, this was one of the
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Speaker 1: worst things that could possibly happen to our family. We
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Speaker 1: were very religious people. We believed in God and at
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Speaker 1: that time, um, you know, it made me question my
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Speaker 1: faith and my beliefs. Um, you know, I pleased it
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Speaker 1: with the Lord, and I asked the Lord to just
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Speaker 1: take me instead. You know, my sister meant the world
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Speaker 1: to me, believe it or not, even though I'm the
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Speaker 1: oldest and she was the youngest. She said, into who
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Speaker 1: I am today, and believe it or not, Um, you
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Speaker 1: know who I am today, I'm doctor Wanda gahlett Im.
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Speaker 1: I would not be who I am today if it
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Speaker 1: hasn't been for my sister. She still encourages me to
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Speaker 1: become the better Wanda than I am today. So I
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Speaker 1: would not be who I am today if she had
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Speaker 1: not uh been my biggest cheerleader. So that day was
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Speaker 1: devastating to me. Hearing you speak is literally bringing tears
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Speaker 1: to my eyes. People that I've never been a crime
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Speaker 1: victim have no idea the life long implications of violent crime,
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Speaker 1: even beyond your life. Because speaking as a victim of
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Speaker 1: violent crime, it not only has affected my life, but
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Speaker 1: it's affected when I had children. I was so traumatized
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Speaker 1: by my fiance's murderer I couldn't consider remarrying and therefore
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Speaker 1: had my children very late in life. My daughter almost
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Speaker 1: died because of complications, and it affects the way I
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Speaker 1: raised them now, and that will affect the way they
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Speaker 1: raise their children. It will go on and on, Yester.
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Speaker 1: After I lost my sister, I end up miscarrying, and
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Speaker 1: then I was engaged to be married, and I end
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Speaker 1: up that that relationship end up evolving. So and then
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Speaker 1: my brothers and sisters end up turning to addiction. And
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Speaker 1: then my mother prematurely died at fifty one. Oh Rhonda,
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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, the way this affected your life, because
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Speaker 1: I remember after Case Murderer, at a certain point I
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Speaker 1: would try to, like go out to see a movie
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Speaker 1: or go out with the when I finally went back
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Speaker 1: to college, and who wants to go out with somebody
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Speaker 1: that sits in car in the car and cries the
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Speaker 1: whole time. Nobody, And so every relationship falls apart, like
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Speaker 1: you with your fiance at the time. But now you
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Speaker 1: are you have your doctor and business administration, your MS,
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Speaker 1: your BS, and you're a program manager for the Air
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Speaker 1: Force at Wright Patterson Air Force Base. Wow, let me
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Speaker 1: share this with you. It's not a dated that goes
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Speaker 1: by that I do not carry this wound in my
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Speaker 1: heart for my sister, Believer or not, I have been
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Speaker 1: able to carry on with my faith in the Lord.
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Speaker 1: But believe it or not, I'm carrying on, but I
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Speaker 1: still have a wound in my heart because my sister
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Speaker 1: is not here. I was the closer, I believe you.
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Speaker 1: I was the closest to my youngest sister, and I
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Speaker 1: was the closest to my mother, and both of them
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Speaker 1: are gone and so nothing to bring them back. I
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Speaker 1: carry on because of my faith in the Lord. But
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Speaker 1: I have a wound. So I just wanted to make
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Speaker 1: sure that people know that even though I have carried
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Speaker 1: on and I may look like I don't look like
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Speaker 1: what I've been through, but I still have that wound
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Speaker 1: in my heart. And this time of year is not
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Speaker 1: like it used to be. It's not the happiest time
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Speaker 1: for me. Even though I may look like it, I
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Speaker 1: still carry that wound. Let old the police know at
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Speaker 1: the time that the murderer of Dnata Glood just standing
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Speaker 1: at a pay phone would touch off one of the
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Speaker 1: darkest chapters in Dayton history. Randa, where were you when
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Speaker 1: you learned Janita had been shot? I actually was at
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Speaker 1: my partner preparing to gather with my family for Christmas.
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Speaker 1: So I rushed home to get the present that I
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Speaker 1: had from my family to head back to my mother's
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Speaker 1: house and I went home. I gathered my present. I
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Speaker 1: was with Danita's daughter at the time, and we went home.
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Speaker 1: We gathered the presents, and we had fallen asleep and
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Speaker 1: I woke up and I was really upset because I
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Speaker 1: had fallen asleep. I called my mom and my mother
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Speaker 1: told me that nobody had showed showed up yet, so
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Speaker 1: come on over. My mother had made a big poduct chili,
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Speaker 1: and she told me to hurry up. And I was
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Speaker 1: so excited because I was going to see all my
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Speaker 1: brothers and sisters. I was gonna see my mom, and
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Speaker 1: I was just gonna be with my family. And when
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Speaker 1: I got to my mother's house, I was disappointed because
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Speaker 1: my brothers and sisters had not arrived. When I got there,
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Speaker 1: I got agitated because nobody was there. And about ten
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Speaker 1: a clock, the phone rings. About ten a clock or
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Speaker 1: ten ten, the phone ring. I picked up the phone.
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Speaker 1: No answer. And I believe today my sister Paulie to
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Speaker 1: let us know that she needed a ride, and nobody answered.
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Speaker 1: You believed Nata was calling you from that pay phone? Yes, ma'am,
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Speaker 1: I do believe that my sister was calling me and
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Speaker 1: then that's when when when no answer. When I received
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Speaker 1: no answer, I hung up the phone. I left my
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Speaker 1: mother and I went home. And by the time I
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Speaker 1: got home, I ended up taking a shower and I
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Speaker 1: laid down, and that's when my grandmother called me and
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Speaker 1: said that Nita is gone. And I kept after my grandmother,
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Speaker 1: what do you mean? And she said she's gone, And
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Speaker 1: I kept saying, what do you mean? And she said
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Speaker 1: she said. She finally said she was at the hot st.
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Speaker 1: So my fiance took me to the hospital. And when
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Speaker 1: I walked into the room, I saw my mother looking broken,
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Speaker 1: and that's when I knew that my sister was gone.
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Speaker 1: I knew my finger was dead. Crime Stories with Nancy
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Speaker 1: Grace with me is doctor Ronda Gillette. She's a sister
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Speaker 1: of eighteen year old Danida Gilette, who was making a
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Speaker 1: phone call at a pay phone and then shot dead.
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Speaker 1: But that was just the tip of the Christmas Eve
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Speaker 1: tragedies that then went on to unfold in the city
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Speaker 1: of Dayton, because it wasn't long after the body Danita
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Speaker 1: was found that tragedy strikes again. To Doyle Burke, retired
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Speaker 1: Dayton Homicide Detective Chief Investigator, Warren County Corner. Detective Burke,
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Speaker 1: thank you so much for being with us. The murder
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Speaker 1: of Danita touched off a string of tragedy that Dayton
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Speaker 1: will not soon forget. Do you recall the name Richmond Maddox, Detective, Yes,
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Speaker 1: I do. Explain. Richmond Maddox was a young male nineteen
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Speaker 1: years old, involved in a car crash. His car had
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Speaker 1: struck a tree in northwest end of Dayton. Now let
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Speaker 1: me understand something right there. How old did you say
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Speaker 1: he is? Nineteen? So Richmond Maddox is just nineteen. Danita
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Speaker 1: Gillet just eighteen, close in age. But let me ask
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Speaker 1: you this, where exactly was his car crash north day
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Speaker 1: Did you say, north northwest Dayton, in the same general
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Speaker 1: area as Danita Giletts, but a decent distance away. So
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Speaker 1: you've got Danita shot in north Dayton, north central Dayton,
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Speaker 1: and you've got Richmand Maddox. Yes. How many miles apart?
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Speaker 1: Was that? Maybe a mile and a half, not very far.
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Speaker 1: Do you know the caliber of bullet in Danita's murder? Yes?
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Speaker 1: There were twenty five auto shell casings left at the scene. Okay,
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Speaker 1: but then you find Richmond Maddox and his car is
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Speaker 1: crashed into what did you say, a tree? Yes? Okay,
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Speaker 1: So you get to Richmond Maddox, and what's the first
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Speaker 1: thing that you observe about Richmond Maddox. He has an
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Speaker 1: injury to the right side of his head and it
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Speaker 1: turns out to be a gunshot. Single gunshot wound to
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Speaker 1: the right side of his head. All right, So suddenly
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Speaker 1: the mystery intensifies because this young man, just nineteen years old,
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Speaker 1: is dead at the wheel, crashed into a tree. But
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Speaker 1: it's no car crash at all. Straight out to doctor
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Speaker 1: Kendall Crowns, Deputy Medical Examiner, Travis County, Austin, Texas. What
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Speaker 1: does that tell you, doctor Kendall Crowns, Well, if he
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Speaker 1: was still able to drive after he got shot in
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Speaker 1: the head, you can still you can still perform actions
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Speaker 1: after you get shot in the head, depending on what
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Speaker 1: part of the brain is damn. Okay, Wait a minute, Okay,
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Speaker 1: wait a minute, hold on, that's something new to Detective Burke.
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Speaker 1: Where in the head is Richmond shot in the right
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Speaker 1: temple area? Okay, please explain to me, doctor Crowns, how
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Speaker 1: you can keep driving when you've been shot in the
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Speaker 1: right temple Well, depending on the trajectory of the bullets
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Speaker 1: or the pathway through the brain of the bullet. It
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Speaker 1: may or may not hit the portions of the brain
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Speaker 1: that control your functions of your arms and legs, your
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Speaker 1: motor function. It may also not hit the parts of
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Speaker 1: your brain that control your heart and lung functions. So
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Speaker 1: if that's your brain stem, So if it hits your
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Speaker 1: brain stem, you're pretty much that's lights out. You're gun
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Speaker 1: right away. If it hits a different area of your brain,
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Speaker 1: you may still have a portion of your body that's
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Speaker 1: still able to function for a period of time. Now,
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Speaker 1: the brain will react to the injury by swelling or
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Speaker 1: getting bigger, and once it gets to a certain size,
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Speaker 1: that pinches the brain stem and kills you. Your kindle crowns,
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Speaker 1: are you? Are you serious? You got shot in the
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Speaker 1: head in the temple. I don't see how the guy
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Speaker 1: I could keep driving. I've seen people shoot themselves in
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Speaker 1: the head, reload the gun, walk and then shoot themselves
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Speaker 1: in the in the head again and kill themselves. Okay
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Speaker 1: do you say so? You know nobody here in the
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Speaker 1: studio was buying what you're selling. But you're the doctor
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Speaker 1: field Day with you across. But well, you could have
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Speaker 1: a great day with me on cross and I'd still
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Speaker 1: be right. So that may be true. So let me
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Speaker 1: understand this to leave a page Crime online dot Com
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Speaker 1: investigative reporter, bring me up to this moment with what
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Speaker 1: you know about the case so far. So far, I've
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Speaker 1: got two dead bodies in two areas of town, one
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Speaker 1: ostipsibly by a gunshow wounded a pay phone, another ostensibly
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Speaker 1: by a crash. Upon closer inspection we learned as a
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Speaker 1: shot to the temple, which may or may not. Doctor
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Speaker 1: Kendel Crown sa let the poor guy keep driving, but leave.
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Speaker 1: I bring me up to what we know at this point. So, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: this is occurring in Dayton, Ohio, and this is in
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Speaker 1: the nineties, and this is happening, happening around Christmas Eve
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Speaker 1: and Christmas time is when these killings occurred. Yeah, because Deni,
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Speaker 1: her body was discovered on Christmas Eve, as he just
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Speaker 1: heard her sister dot Deronda Gallette state And what day
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Speaker 1: was it, Detective Burke that the next victim, Richard Maddox,
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Speaker 1: was found same day, Christmas Day, December twenty fifth. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so within twenty four hours another body is found. Yes,
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Speaker 1: did it appear to you, detective, that the victim had
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Speaker 1: been shot in the right temple by the passenger in
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Speaker 1: the front seat. Yes, it did. It's wintertime, the windows
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Speaker 1: in the vehicle were up. There's obviously no damage to
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Speaker 1: the passenger's side window, so no one shot through the
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Speaker 1: window glass. The window was up, like I say, so,
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Speaker 1: no one had an opportunity to shoot through an open window.
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Speaker 1: So it had to be the passenger. And it's it's
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Speaker 1: a very it's a near contact wod. It's not a
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Speaker 1: contact wood, but it's very close. And as you would figure,
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Speaker 1: in the front seat of a car, you're in close
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Speaker 1: proxy no matter what. But there was no doubt in
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Speaker 1: our mind that the passenger is the one who fired
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Speaker 1: the shot. Let's talk about ballistics for one moment. Was
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Speaker 1: the window of the driver's side shot out? No, So
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Speaker 1: that means that the bullet went into the right temple
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Speaker 1: and remained in the body. There's no excitent did not. Actually,
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Speaker 1: the good thing about that, if you can find any
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Speaker 1: silver lining at all, is that you have the bullet.
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Speaker 1: And as we will see, ballistics play such a huge
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Speaker 1: role in the untangling of this case. So leave a page.
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Speaker 1: I've got two deaths. Denita Gillet eighteen and Richmond Maddox
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Speaker 1: age nineteen, and nothing connects the two. Back to Detective Burke,
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Speaker 1: does the name Sarah Abraham mean anything to you? Yes,
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Speaker 1: it does, explain. Sarah Abraham was the owner of a
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Speaker 1: little mini mart. There were quite a few of them
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Speaker 1: in the nineties in Dayton in the Inner West Side,
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Speaker 1: and this is a reasonable distance away from Maddox or
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Speaker 1: Galfte scenes. There were three people in the mini mart
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Speaker 1: at the time, including Sarah, and a robbery ensued and
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Speaker 1: Sarah and another papront were shot. When you look at
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Speaker 1: the scene where Sarah abrahams Abraham was killed, she's thirty eight.
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Speaker 1: What did you learn? Well, in looking at the scene,
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Speaker 1: we saw the same caliber and configuration of shell cases
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Speaker 1: as we had at the Nita Gallette scene. Explain what
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Speaker 1: when were they thirty two, twenty fives or both? Twenty
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Speaker 1: five automatic Blazer ammunition. Blazer is again it's a disposable
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Speaker 1: target ammunition and it had just come out on the market.
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Speaker 1: And to see that at two separate crime scene a
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Speaker 1: fairly decent distance from one another told me it was
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Speaker 1: probably the same person. Crime stories with Nancy Grace, we
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Speaker 1: were talking about a serial killer stalking Dayton, first the
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Speaker 1: body of an eighteen year old girl, then the body
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Speaker 1: of a nineteen year old young man, then a thirty
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Speaker 1: eight year old woman at a mini mart gunned down.
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Speaker 1: Will a very unusual circumstance regarding ballistics somehow solve the
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Speaker 1: case with me and back to Detective Doyle Burke, former
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Speaker 1: detective eight homicide and Chief Investigator Warren County Coroner. You
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Speaker 1: mentioned blaze disposable, Emma, explain what that is. It's an
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Speaker 1: ammunition manufactured by CCI. It's it's called Blazer target ammunition.
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Speaker 1: It's made out of aluminum cases instead of the brass
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Speaker 1: casinges that you typically see, and they're disposable. You're throw
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Speaker 1: them away. It's not unusual see different types of ammunition
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Speaker 1: at these crime scenes, but to see Blazer ammunition something
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Speaker 1: like that that has just come onto the market as
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Speaker 1: not a defensive round in a twenty five automatic caliber
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Speaker 1: was obviously important to us. When you found the body
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Speaker 1: of Sarah Abraham, thirty eight years old, where was she
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Speaker 1: situated in the mini mart? She would have been behind
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Speaker 1: the counter. She was actually actually removed to the hospital.
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Speaker 1: She didn't die until December thirty. First she never regained consciousness,
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Speaker 1: but she actually did not die a thirty first, so
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Speaker 1: she was not on the scene when we got there.
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Speaker 1: That poor woman and her family lying there in the
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Speaker 1: hospital for that many days, hoping against hope, only to
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Speaker 1: die at the end. Are the three connected? This blaze
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Speaker 1: disposable MMO is a major clue to Professor Michael Drane
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Speaker 1: Special Guests joining US Forensic Psychologists and Professor at Antioch.
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Speaker 1: You know, very often we hear or we see, for instance,
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Speaker 1: in movies and in TV programs, in murder mysteries, we
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Speaker 1: see these brilliant criminals. What were they thinking, Professor, They're
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Speaker 1: using basically a fingerprint mo aluminum blaze er disposable AMMO.
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Speaker 1: You think nobody can connect that and realize there are
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Speaker 1: as a killer on the loose. They're not as smart
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Speaker 1: as the movies given them credit for, Professor. You know,
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Speaker 1: that's very true. There is no real evidence that they
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Speaker 1: were using their highest reasoning while this was happening. It's
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Speaker 1: actually far more likely that they were caught up in
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Speaker 1: the spree murder and the action of it, and overwhelmed
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Speaker 1: by the moment and as it's been described, you know,
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Speaker 1: like a shark tasting blood in the water, and that's
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Speaker 1: kind of feeding frond me. You know, like what you
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Speaker 1: just said, professor, you refer to the killer or killers
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Speaker 1: as like a shark tasting blood. Because many a time,
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Speaker 1: not in front of a jury, of course, many a
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Speaker 1: time I sat in court and looked over at the
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Speaker 1: defendant and just looked at them, particularly in homicide cases,
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Speaker 1: and try to figure out why. And the more I
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Speaker 1: tried to figure it out, the less I knew, because
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Speaker 1: it seemed as if they didn't have the same emotion
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Speaker 1: that regular people have, Like you would look at them
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Speaker 1: and there'll be nothing. It'd be like looking at a
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Speaker 1: frog in the eyes where the eyes you get nothing
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Speaker 1: out of that, like a re tile and you said
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Speaker 1: a shark, Yeah, kind of like a shark. And if
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Speaker 1: you look at some of the more notorious serial killers
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Speaker 1: that are sitting in court, you know, you're Richard Ramirez
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Speaker 1: and you're Ted Bundees. You know, they look cool as
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Speaker 1: a cucumber while they're sitting in court. And psychopathic personalities
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Speaker 1: tend to have a lower stress immunity, their ability to
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Speaker 1: remain cool under pressure. They need more stimuluts in order
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Speaker 1: to feel aroused. That's part of why they go killing
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Speaker 1: in the first place, So it's pretty indicative to the
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Speaker 1: kind of personality that would commit a crime like this
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Speaker 1: in the first place. Doctor Angela Arnold Psychiatrists joining us
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Speaker 1: at the Atlanta Jurisdiction way and doctor Angie, you know, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: these people are a certain way while they're committing their crime. Okay,
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Speaker 1: they're in a certain mindset while they're out gunning down people.
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Speaker 1: And it does sound like these people will commit this
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Speaker 1: was a spree killing that was being committed. So all
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Speaker 1: of this time has gone by, they've been sitting in
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Speaker 1: the jail. Well, they're not in the act right now.
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Speaker 1: So to all of us who are thinking, oh my god,
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Speaker 1: this is such a horrific thing that they have done,
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Speaker 1: they're completely out of that mode now they're in who
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Speaker 1: even knows what they're thinking about, because Nancy, we don't
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Speaker 1: really know what they were thinking when they were actually
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Speaker 1: doing this, and if they were thinking, and how much
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Speaker 1: thought was involved. That's why they're using these bullets that
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Speaker 1: could find They aren't thinking, oh my goodness, somebody's gonna
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Speaker 1: find me with these types of bullets that I'm using.
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Speaker 1: This is a spree. This is they have some sort
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Speaker 1: of motivation to kill these people, whether it's whether it's
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Speaker 1: random people or people that they're killing on purpose. Right.
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Speaker 1: You know, you know, Professor Draine, you said something very interesting.
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Speaker 1: I want to piggyback on what Doctor Angie just said.
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Speaker 1: That they like a shark sensing blood in the water.
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Speaker 1: That excites the shark, That makes a shark more aggressive,
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Speaker 1: and it makes a shark look for the next victim.
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Speaker 1: I've prosecuted spree killings and serial killings, and there's something
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Speaker 1: very different about the two. You know, we always hear
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Speaker 1: about serial killers like Ted Bundy, BTK Ramirez, o'gays, he
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Speaker 1: goes on and on, but there's something about a spree
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Speaker 1: killer that's different. Their mindset is different. What is it. Well,
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Speaker 1: spree killer usually involves a string of at least three
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Speaker 1: murders over different locations that have a key precipitating event
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Speaker 1: that fuels their motivation to kill. The typical personality profile
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Speaker 1: the spree killer is somebody who is ha They grudge
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Speaker 1: against society or a specific population. They feel like they've
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Speaker 1: been wronged in their life, and they have a need
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Speaker 1: to enact attribution because they don't they feel like they've
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Speaker 1: been dealt a bad hand against society. They also don't
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Speaker 1: feel like they need to flow the worlds of society. Higher.
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Speaker 1: Serial murder is more about a person or people targeting
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Speaker 1: a specific typology, a specific kind of person, and there's
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Speaker 1: a there's a more themed pattern among the victims. And
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Speaker 1: that's not what we see here. So so far, we've
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Speaker 1: got three dead bodies. Beautiful young Dneda Gillette. Her family's
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Speaker 1: waiting for the Christmas gathering. You heard her sister describing it,
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Speaker 1: doctor Rondo Gillett. Then you have a young man seemingly
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Speaker 1: dead from a car crash, turns out he was shot
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Speaker 1: in the head. And then suddenly a thirty eight year
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Speaker 1: old woman working at a mini mart across town. The
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Speaker 1: common the commonality are these aluminum blaze disposable and I
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Speaker 1: left behind. Back to Detective Doyle Burke, special guest joining us,
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Speaker 1: let me bring up the name to you, Joseph Wilkerson. Yes,
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Speaker 1: where did you find his body? We found him in
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Speaker 1: his residence in north northwest Dayton, for much further out
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Speaker 1: from the nita's site. So you say you find him,
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Speaker 1: I believe that you were in the middle of looking
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Speaker 1: for some stolen car and it leads you to this location.
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Speaker 1: You go in and where is Joseph Wilkerson. Yes, that's
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Speaker 1: that's correct. We were falling up on his vehicle. When
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Speaker 1: we go into the residence, it's obvious there's a decomposing
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Speaker 1: body in the residence. And we go to the back
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Speaker 1: bedroom and he is spread eagle tied. His hands are
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Speaker 1: tied to the bedpost. The hands tied to the bedpost. Okay,
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Speaker 1: right there, Murphy on North Carolina trial lawyer at NC
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Speaker 1: Domestic law dot com. Right there. A lot of people
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Speaker 1: would not piece that together at all because the mo
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Speaker 1: modus operandi method of operation is so incredibly different. You've
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Speaker 1: got a person tied spread eagle to a bed. That
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Speaker 1: would dissuade most people from connecting that to the other
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Speaker 1: three murders. Absolutely, and I would think that would be
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Speaker 1: a murder, that would be a singular type of murder
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Speaker 1: where the folk that ingulately on this person in a
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Speaker 1: sexual relationships gone bad or in a domestic relationship gone bad.
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Speaker 1: No way should or form would I connected to a
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Speaker 1: spree killing. Absolutely, And back to you, detective, what was
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Speaker 1: the m what was the death? What caused the death
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Speaker 1: of Joseph Wilkerson? He was shot once in the chest
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Speaker 1: and once in the head. What kind of ammad we
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Speaker 1: did have a spent twenty five caliber blazer casing at
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Speaker 1: the scene crime stories with Nancy Grace. When so many
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Speaker 1: of us are anticipating being with our family, worshiping, celebrating,
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Speaker 1: enjoying the moment of Christmas, these families lives are torn apart.
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Speaker 1: Little do they know at that time how connected so
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Speaker 1: far four murders are. Take a listen to Dave DeMarco
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Speaker 1: w DT in two Christmas Eve, Christmas in the day
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Speaker 1: after our three days in nineteen ninety two. Few people
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Speaker 1: in the Miami Valley will ever forget, especially now retired
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Speaker 1: Daton Detective Doyle. And as we kept getting more and
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Speaker 1: more victims with the same type of m and the
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Speaker 1: same type of ammunition used, it was clear that we
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Speaker 1: had a group of serial killers. Crime scenes included a home,
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Speaker 1: a car, and a phone booth where the gang of
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Speaker 1: six made off with a pair of tennis shoes and
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Speaker 1: fifty cents. This was a true definition of the terms
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Speaker 1: free killers. It was fun, they enjoyed it. There was
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Speaker 1: no reason. No one gave any resistance to them. It
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Speaker 1: was just something for them to do. The sign of
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Speaker 1: the shortstop mini market has faded. It was the final
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Speaker 1: of those Christmas killings. Two people shot inside, including a
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Speaker 1: clerk and young mom. That gang left with just forty
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Speaker 1: four dollars. And yes, at that time that's what Dave
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Speaker 1: DeMarco wdt N thought that was the end of the murders.
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Speaker 1: But no, it was not. All of this unfolding in
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Speaker 1: the days surrounding Christmas. Straight back to Tective Doyle Burke
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Speaker 1: joining me along with doctor Ronda Gillett and Professor Michael
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Speaker 1: Drain and our panel detective two more names, a sixteen
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Speaker 1: year old girl, Wendy Catrill and her young sweetheart, her lover,
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Speaker 1: Marvin Washington, eighteen years old. How did you how? Where
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Speaker 1: were their bodies? The two this boyfriend and girlfriend when
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Speaker 1: they were murdered. They were found in a gravel pit
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Speaker 1: in the west side of Dayton, the hour side of Dayton.
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Speaker 1: They were side by side. They've been executed. Back to
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Speaker 1: our guest, doctor Ronda Gillett, the sister of then eighteen
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Speaker 1: year old Danita Gillett. Ronda, as you are finding out
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Speaker 1: Danita has been murdered at a payphone. Were you at
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Speaker 1: all aware are the other bodies that were being discovered
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Speaker 1: in Dayton. No, I was not aware at all about
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Speaker 1: all of the other deaths that had occurred. So me
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Speaker 1: and my family, we were we could not pant them
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Speaker 1: that this was a part of any kind of spree.
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Speaker 1: We could not imagine anybody who who would want to
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Speaker 1: hurt my footster. So it was just like a nightmare
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Speaker 1: that had occurred. And when you look at the locations,
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Speaker 1: to Professor Michael Drain, why would you even think to
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Speaker 1: connect a young woman shot at a pay phone, a
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Speaker 1: young man, Richmond Maddox who seemingly had a car crash
31:46
Speaker 1: with a tree but was actually shot. Then you have
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Speaker 1: a thirty eight year old at a mini mark shot
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Speaker 1: still behind the cash register. Then you have guy tied
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Speaker 1: spread eagle to a bed shot, and then you have
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Speaker 1: these two young lovers sixteen and eighteen, shot execution style
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Speaker 1: and a gravel pit. Typically those cases would not be connected,
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Speaker 1: Professor No, that's right, they wouldn't be. And then in
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Speaker 1: the moment, you know, we can look back retrospectively and
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Speaker 1: it's all very clear, but in the moment it must
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Speaker 1: have just seemed like unconnected murders. And that's are the
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Speaker 1: difficulty of identifying spree murders. There's cases of people who
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Speaker 1: go on a traveling spree murder and drive through a
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Speaker 1: whole state or across state lines and kill multiple people
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Speaker 1: as they're driving down the street. And because of the
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Speaker 1: vast geographic gland that they're covering, those things aren't connected
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Speaker 1: right away. Back to you, detective, when did you first
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Speaker 1: realize all of these murders spanning Dayton were connected to
32:52
Speaker 1: spree killers? WHA's the ballistics started coming back? Everything revolved
32:58
Speaker 1: around that twenty five of automatic, which was correct. But
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Speaker 1: now we had a second weapon introduced by virtue of
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Speaker 1: the ballistics, and that was a thirty two derringer, and
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Speaker 1: that was what was used on Richmond Maddox in the
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Speaker 1: car crash. It was also used with Sarah Abraham and
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Speaker 1: it was also used with our last, one of our
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Speaker 1: last victims, Marvin Washington. So how does it all fit together?
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Speaker 1: Who is behind spree killings then haunting the city of Dayton?
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to John Elimley at crime Online. Nineteen
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Speaker 1: year old Marvelous Keene was the leader of a self
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Speaker 1: titled group, the Downtown Posse. The group included his girlfriend,
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Speaker 1: sixteen year old Laura Taylor, twenty year old Heather Matthews,
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Speaker 1: seventeen year old to Marcus Smith, along with sixteen year
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Speaker 1: old Wendy Cuttrell and eighteen year old Marvin Washington. Together,
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Speaker 1: the group did have much of a criminal record, and
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Speaker 1: Marvelous Keene had been a straight A student in high school.
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Speaker 1: Keene's older brother was killed while committing a robbery in
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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one, and that's when things began to change
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Speaker 1: for Marvelous Keene. He became depressed and virtually gave up
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Speaker 1: on his educational efforts for a time. On Christmas Eve,
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Speaker 1: Laura Taylor tells the group, let's put some drama in
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Speaker 1: our lives, and with that, the group, led by former
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Speaker 1: straight A student Marvelous Keene, concocted a plan to rob
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Speaker 1: an acquaintance of the group, Joseph Wilkerson. Keene, Taylor, and
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Speaker 1: Heather Matthews walked to Wilkerson's home, tie him up and
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Speaker 1: look for things to steal. The thieves load up Wilkerson's
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Speaker 1: own car with a TV, microwave, and other items they
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Speaker 1: can easily sell. Take a listen to this. Marvelous Keene
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Speaker 1: was watching Joseph Wilkerson as Laura Taylor and Heather Matthews
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Speaker 1: ransacked the man's home. When Wilkerson tells Keene he has
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Speaker 1: a thirty two caliber derringer that he can have. Keane
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Speaker 1: gets the gun, covers Wilkerson with blankets to muffle the noise,
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Speaker 1: and shoots the man in the chest with his own gun.
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Speaker 1: Hearing the shot, Taylor and Matthews run to the bedroom,
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Speaker 1: where they see Keene holding the derringer and Wilkerson's feet shaking.
35:20
Speaker 1: Keane gives the derringer to Taylor to shoot Wilkerson, but
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Speaker 1: it doesn't fire, so he uses Keene's own gun and
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Speaker 1: shoots Wilkerson in the head. The trio take off with
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Speaker 1: the stolen items in Wilkerson's buick, and Keene tells his
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Speaker 1: accomplices not to tell Catrill and Washington about killing Wilkerson.
35:39
Speaker 1: How cold blooded was the murder of Wilkerson, but listen
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Speaker 1: to what happened to the beautiful teen girl After the
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Speaker 1: killing of Joseph Wilkerson. On Christmas Eve, Marvelous Keene, Laura Taylor,
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Speaker 1: and DeMarcus Smith go out for a walk when they
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Speaker 1: see Danita Galette using a public telephone. Smith and Keene
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Speaker 1: are both carrying guns and draw their weapons on Galette.
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Speaker 1: Keane says, Merry Christmas, bitch. Then he and Smith forced
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Speaker 1: Gallette at gunpoint to take her coat and her Fila
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Speaker 1: tennis shoes off. Then Keene and Smith both shoot Gallette
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Speaker 1: as the young mother begged for her life. When they
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Speaker 1: returned back to their apartment where their other friends were
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Speaker 1: hanging out, Taylor was wearing Galette's jacket and Smith was
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Speaker 1: carrying her shoes. Dot Toronto, Gillette, I'm just so sorry
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Speaker 1: what your sister and your family has gone through. And
36:44
Speaker 1: speaking for the victims in his case, what do you
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Speaker 1: say now? We in our culture, we just have an
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Speaker 1: epidemic of violence, and I pray and hope that is
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Speaker 1: addressed at a national level. I pray that no family
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Speaker 1: has to deal with this heartache. So that is my
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Speaker 1: hope and my prayer is that we address this epidemic
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Speaker 1: of violence because it has only increased my sisteries on time,
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Speaker 1: it really has. And what's very disturbing, And let me
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Speaker 1: go to Professor Michael Draine forensic psychologists for you here,
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Speaker 1: Laura Taylor tell the group, let's put some drama in
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Speaker 1: our lives. The group ends up turning on their their
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Speaker 1: own and murdering Wendy Katrill and Marvin Washington because they're
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Speaker 1: afraid they'll snitch them out. But let's put some drama
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Speaker 1: in our lives. What is that, Well, there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of evidence, So there's two. There's two kind of trains
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Speaker 1: of thought about Laura Taylor, and that's where a lot
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Speaker 1: of the interesting dynamic is between Laura Taylor and Marvell's Keen.
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Speaker 1: Laura Taylor was m had a lot of psychopathic traits.
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Speaker 1: Perhaps she shot Wilkerson after he had already been shot.
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Speaker 1: She has in the other prevailing series that she was
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Speaker 1: doing what she was doing to try to impress her boyfriend,
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Speaker 1: Marvella's Keene and was trying to ingratiate herself to him.
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Speaker 1: And while he was the leader, it's argued by a
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Speaker 1: lot of people that she was sort of like a
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Speaker 1: co leader or an instigator. So she was either caught
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Speaker 1: up in the frenzy of the whole thing or has
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Speaker 1: a psychopathic personality and enjoyed it, and or it could
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Speaker 1: have been a combination of both, and most things usually are.
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Speaker 1: Let's put some drama in her lives. Six dead, two wounded,
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Speaker 1: and families lives torn apart forever at Christmas to Leavi Page,
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Speaker 1: what has become of these killers? So Nancy Laura Taylor sixteen,
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Speaker 1: Marvelis Keen nineteen, Heather Matthews twenty, and DeMarcus Smith seventeen.
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Speaker 1: They were all charged with murder. Nancy and DeMarcus Smith,
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Speaker 1: Heather Matthews, and Laura Taylor. They are serving life sentences.
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Speaker 1: Laura Taylor and Heather Matthews. The females are serving time
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Speaker 1: in Ohio Reformatory for Women. DeMarcus Smith is serving life,
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Speaker 1: and the ringleader, Marvelis Keene, he was executed in two
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Speaker 1: thousand and nine. We see justice unfold now. The impact
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Speaker 1: this has had on the victim's family is its own
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Speaker 1: life sentence. Nancy Grace Crime Story signing off, Good my Friend,