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Monday Mini: What's Up With Pandemic Sex Orgies? · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny Smith and welcome to stuff I've
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  Speaker 1: never told you production of I Heart Radio. And want
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  Speaker 1: to start this one right out of the gate with
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  Speaker 1: a content warning, probably obvious from the title and summary,
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  Speaker 1: but we are going to be talking about orgies today.
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  Speaker 1: Statement to say ever work, yes, and we're not gonna
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  Speaker 1: go to in depth or anything. We're specifically focusing on
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  Speaker 1: news stories about orgies during the pandemic, not the stuff
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  Speaker 1: that might come to mind when it comes to things
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  Speaker 1: like cults and orgies. Um or also just because now
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  Speaker 1: I want to do a whole episode on just this
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  Speaker 1: whole world of orgies. We're not really going to get
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  Speaker 1: to in depth on that either. These could be future
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  Speaker 1: episodes today that's pandemic orgy. You know, that's all no
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  Speaker 1: big deal, So content warning for that. UM and I
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  Speaker 1: did have a question for you to Samantha, and we
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  Speaker 1: discussed it before answer I'm not springing it on you.
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  Speaker 1: I was curious if you've ever been asked to be
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  Speaker 1: in or been in a threesome or more sexual situation.
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  Speaker 1: So I've never actually been in that situation. I haven't
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  Speaker 1: propositioned or hit on by couples to be part of
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  Speaker 1: something and I've never gone for that. I I guess
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  Speaker 1: I'm not very adventurous my own issues with sexual experiences.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, that's too much for me. Really, Um, it's
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  Speaker 1: hard enough for me to be naked in front of
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  Speaker 1: one person, right, So that's kind of that whole big level.
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  Speaker 1: But no, I don't have an interesting answer to that.
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  Speaker 1: I really I've gotten kind of hit on a couple
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  Speaker 1: of times proposition, but never actually gone through you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I I've been asked and one one time. It's one
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  Speaker 1: of those memories that I just occasionally mull over about
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  Speaker 1: what was really going on there, because one time this
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  Speaker 1: guy asked me to be in a threesome. And this
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  Speaker 1: was in college, and I think I was trying to
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  Speaker 1: be open to the idea, even though in the back
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  Speaker 1: of my head I knew the answer was gonna be no.
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  Speaker 1: But I was trying to be like, you know, so
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  Speaker 1: I asked, like, who is the other person? And he said, well,
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  Speaker 1: it can be whoever you wanted to be. And I
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  Speaker 1: was like, so you're we're the basis of this and
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  Speaker 1: we're going to find someone else. And he was like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just what would make you more comfortable? Would you
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  Speaker 1: be more comfortable if it was someone you've never met
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  Speaker 1: or someone you had met and I we discussed it
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  Speaker 1: for a while and I never came up with a
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  Speaker 1: good answer. But to this day, I'm like, what was
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  Speaker 1: going on there? That's a sex in the City episode?
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  Speaker 1: Is it really? That's so gread? I should have known
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  Speaker 1: it always got back to sex in the city. I
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  Speaker 1: think he was doing sex in the city and I
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  Speaker 1: just sword off, not really that because they don't ask
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  Speaker 1: that question, but it is like brought in. So it's
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  Speaker 1: this whole thing with Charlotte, who is probably the most
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  Speaker 1: naive of the four days, a guy who wants to
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  Speaker 1: have a threesome, and so she has this whole discussion
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  Speaker 1: with all of them, and they go about the round
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  Speaker 1: table about who would they have it with, would it
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  Speaker 1: be a stranger, would it not be And of course
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  Speaker 1: port little Miranda gets left out. Altogether, it's a whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my, maybe he'd seen that episode. Maybe interesting. I
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  Speaker 1: legitimately whe awake at nights sometimes thinking about this this moment.
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  Speaker 1: And then this is the same guy who came back
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  Speaker 1: to me like years later we hadn't spoken to each other,
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  Speaker 1: and was very nice to me. And then at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the night, asked to be friends benefits, so
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  Speaker 1: it could be dude does not take hints. I will say,
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  Speaker 1: going through experiences being naive, for lack of a better term,
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  Speaker 1: I have become more suspicious. There was a time when
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  Speaker 1: if somebody was married and they started hanging out with
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  Speaker 1: me a lot, either person, I would just be like, well,
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  Speaker 1: they're married. But now sometimes I'm like, either maybe somebody's
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  Speaker 1: trying to cheat, or it's a threesome situation and they're
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  Speaker 1: throwing me out and that that's it. It's probably not
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  Speaker 1: the case, but I have started thinking is sometimes I
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  Speaker 1: think that's part of the thing is once once we
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  Speaker 1: make the mistake of believing that way of like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: they're married, they're off the table, we're good, we can
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  Speaker 1: be friends, and then things start happening, and you the
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  Speaker 1: one time that something happens, you're like, from then on,
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  Speaker 1: you're suspicious and scared. Right, Yes, suspicious and scared. So
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  Speaker 1: that's why we'll start off with this this episode. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so this has been something that's puzzling me throughout the
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  Speaker 1: pandemics and Anthea Noah's I've like occasionally brought it up.
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  Speaker 1: It's been on our ideas list for a long time,
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  Speaker 1: but that did. Yeah. Well, I just kept seeing all
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  Speaker 1: these news stories about cracking down on sex orgies, and
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  Speaker 1: I was just really curious whether or not this was
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  Speaker 1: the thing that was happening the whole time, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: just not in the orgy loop, which I'm very much
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  Speaker 1: not in the orgy loop. And to be clear, like
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  Speaker 1: no king shaming or shaming of sexual activities as long
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  Speaker 1: as they're safe, informed, consensual activities amongst adults. I just
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  Speaker 1: was really curious all these stories I kept seeing. So recently,
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  Speaker 1: the New York Department of Health updated their guidelines for
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  Speaker 1: having safe sex during the pandemic, which we talked about,
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  Speaker 1: including this line quote, make it kinky, be creative with
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  Speaker 1: sexual positions, and physical barriers like walls that allow sexual
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  Speaker 1: contact while preventing close face to face contact. Interesting. They
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  Speaker 1: heavily advised avoiding sex parties, but if you must get
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  Speaker 1: vaccinated first and choose a larger, more open and well
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  Speaker 1: ventilated spaces. Good to know. Good to know. And as
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  Speaker 1: you as you probably heard that this story, these guidelines
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  Speaker 1: did make the rounds of people like are you talking
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  Speaker 1: about glory holes essentially? And what's a well ventilated space
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  Speaker 1: I can have like a sex party in After the
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  Speaker 1: so called war on rimming, they also updated their guidelines
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  Speaker 1: with quote the risk of spreading the virus through feces
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  Speaker 1: parentheses poop is thought to be low. Though the virus
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  Speaker 1: has been found in the feces of people who have
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  Speaker 1: had COVID nineteen, researchers needed to know if the virus
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  Speaker 1: can spread through sexual activities involving oral contact with feces,
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  Speaker 1: such as rimming. Um. I just wanted to include that
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  Speaker 1: because that came up in a lot of the when
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  Speaker 1: I was searching this. So what exactly constitutes an orgy?
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  Speaker 1: I thought there would be like a much more straightforward definition,
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  Speaker 1: which I don't know if that was foolish of me,
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  Speaker 1: but from dictionary dot com it's quote wilder drunken festivity
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  Speaker 1: or revelry, especially involving sex with multiple participants, or from
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  Speaker 1: Miriam Webster sexual encounter involving many people. But there were
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  Speaker 1: a lot of like food and drinking aspects to it
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  Speaker 1: as well. I learned there are several global sex party networks,
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  Speaker 1: many of which have had to adapt during the pandemic.
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  Speaker 1: Um A virtual sex parties and online sex workshops, for instance,
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  Speaker 1: but plenty of illegal in person sex parties have taken
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  Speaker 1: place during this pandemic. During these lockdowns, two um some
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  Speaker 1: have tried to incorporate social distancing and vaccine requirements. In
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  Speaker 1: January of French police broke up a one hundred person
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  Speaker 1: sex party taking place in a warehouse. In November, one
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  Speaker 1: people tested positive for COVID nineteen as you're attending the
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  Speaker 1: Naughty Nolans Swingers party in New Orleans, which is about
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  Speaker 1: thirteen percent of the attendees, and the organizer went on
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  Speaker 1: to vote, I wouldn't do it again if I knew
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  Speaker 1: then what I know now. It weighs on me and
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  Speaker 1: it will continue to weigh on me until everyone is
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  Speaker 1: one hundred percent better. And the event did require temperature
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  Speaker 1: checks and mask Also in November, a far right anti
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  Speaker 1: lgbt Q plus Hungarian diplomat got busted for attending an
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  Speaker 1: a legal lockdown orgy with twenty other men. A few
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  Speaker 1: have been broken up in New York ad people at
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  Speaker 1: a sex club in Queen's. More than two hundred were
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  Speaker 1: detained at an illegal sex party in Los Angeles. Atlanta.
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  Speaker 1: Sex clubs, Traps and the Loft were featured In one
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  Speaker 1: of these articles about these it described the experience at
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  Speaker 1: these sex clubs, and it was something I had no
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  Speaker 1: idea about, just a world I had no idea about.
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  Speaker 1: Customers had to sign a document that read, we understand
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  Speaker 1: that we are using the clubs facilities during a worldwide
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  Speaker 1: COVID night team pandemic and understand and accept all risk
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  Speaker 1: and consequences. Thereof people who work at these clubs across
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  Speaker 1: the country reported high interest during this time and theorized
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  Speaker 1: it might have to do with a newfound appreciation of
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  Speaker 1: being close to other people. Um And as I was
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  Speaker 1: reading through these, of course I thought of fan fiction
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  Speaker 1: because a lot of people use this term touch starved,
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  Speaker 1: which I've never actually heard. I should have known it's
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  Speaker 1: an actual thing. But in fan fiction, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people use touch starved. And that's what people were describing
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  Speaker 1: is they felt like they've been missing fan fiction war.
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  Speaker 1: Just so you know, I know, I have learned through
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  Speaker 1: this orgy research that my world of fan fiction is
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  Speaker 1: not the first and foremost there are. It's something it
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  Speaker 1: could be applied to young children who aren't physically touched
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  Speaker 1: and don't it's not aware of, like parental cuddles and
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  Speaker 1: hugs and emotions, so it's actually lit more more scientific
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  Speaker 1: than just yes, I have learned. I have learned cuttle
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  Speaker 1: parties are yes also leaving, and some people were saying
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  Speaker 1: it's related the same thing, and these articles talked about
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  Speaker 1: those as well and described those as well. Others described, say,
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  Speaker 1: orgies amongst friends, which I find really interesting. Again that
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  Speaker 1: kind of goes back to would you be comfortable? Would
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  Speaker 1: you be more comfortable doing it with people you knew
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  Speaker 1: or didn't know. I think it's probably pretty personal, actually,
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  Speaker 1: definitely very personal, very personal. Yes, yes. And I also
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  Speaker 1: learned about podcast a Polosa quote where sex is not
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  Speaker 1: just celebrated but embraced with style, and they sense like
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  Speaker 1: a super inclusive, supportive event. I went to their website, um,
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  Speaker 1: and I was really impressed, to be honest. I also
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  Speaker 1: learned about fogo, which is fear of going out, and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, yes, that is what I have. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, is that what we would talk
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  Speaker 1: about when I'm like, hey, look the deltail variant is
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  Speaker 1: happening and I'm putting myself in quarantine again. Okay, cool?
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  Speaker 1: Pretty much. Jennefer Elision, founder of Scart club A Woman's
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  Speaker 1: only sex club said in an interview, quote, the pandemic
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  Speaker 1: has definitely boosted women thinking about themselves and having the
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  Speaker 1: time now to consider their own pleasures. I think there
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  Speaker 1: are a lot of realizations for women who question their
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  Speaker 1: sexuality but are afraid to act on it. This realization
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  Speaker 1: of I want to live my life fully now and
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to listen to what others think or say.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead, ladies, you find that you find that pleasure. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And a lot of people who have participated in these
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  Speaker 1: sex parties have said that it's not an activity but
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  Speaker 1: more of a lifestyle. And they've also pointed out that
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  Speaker 1: they're more judge for breaking COVID regulations because of what
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  Speaker 1: they're doing. The thousands of people out a raid, for example,
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  Speaker 1: which is not a direct comparison, but I see the
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  Speaker 1: point even if yeah, there's still a direct comparison, but
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  Speaker 1: I see the point. Trying to just anything in crowded
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  Speaker 1: basis make me worried anyway, So there's that. An anonymous
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  Speaker 1: user from Paris wrote to Motherboard Advice, quote, the health
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  Speaker 1: situation cannot suppress the irrepressible desire to that's right. That
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  Speaker 1: could be put on a pillow. Someone that for me.
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  Speaker 1: Another quote from someone Gaveriel Geiger at Vice interviewed, stated,
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  Speaker 1: I think people have a clear need for social connection
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  Speaker 1: and meeting. Everything is closed. People are alone. We cannot,
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  Speaker 1: you see, stay with cages around our pussies and you know,
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  Speaker 1: dicks forever. Now, at least in France, we're vaccinating people. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then when the when the pandemic first appeared to
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  Speaker 1: be easing in the US, sex parties were on their eyes,
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  Speaker 1: including boobs cruises or cruises that encourage people to walk
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  Speaker 1: around naked. I just made Samantha do as pittake, I
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  Speaker 1: do not wonder about this. Good. Listen, there is my
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  Speaker 1: twelve year old immature self reading all these things. It's
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  Speaker 1: just like, what is happening? This is again, this feels
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  Speaker 1: like what it's all year old with joke about right
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  Speaker 1: in their fantasies and then talking about this out loud
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  Speaker 1: as an actual thing that's been created. I'm like, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, twelve year olds are innovative. Well, that's actually
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  Speaker 1: a point I wanted to make, because it's clear that
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  Speaker 1: we're we're kind of poking fun at some of this
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  Speaker 1: and not not really at the people in general. But
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  Speaker 1: the reporting on it, because as we talked about in
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  Speaker 1: that episode on Sex Birds, like that we have such
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  Speaker 1: a taboo and it's so hard for us to talk
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  Speaker 1: about second and me in particular, like I couldn't get
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  Speaker 1: through that list of words without blushing and giggling. And
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  Speaker 1: that was part of my whole fascination with this where
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to know more because I was like, I
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  Speaker 1: did kind of think it was, you know, in the
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  Speaker 1: minds of twelve year olds. I knew it happened. I
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  Speaker 1: just wasn't quite familiar with the numbers or the people
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  Speaker 1: behind it. And speaking of the Kinsey Institute at Indiana
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  Speaker 1: University and Love Honey released a study fairly recently that
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  Speaker 1: found quote, people were more likely to attended sex club
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  Speaker 1: this year than before the pandemic of men and fourteen
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  Speaker 1: scent of women, while say they're less interested in the
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  Speaker 1: other of the same level of interest. If you're curious,
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  Speaker 1: which I was pre pandemic, about six point three percent
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  Speaker 1: of men and five percent of women had been to
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  Speaker 1: a sex party or swingers club. I think my whole
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  Speaker 1: thing about the way that it's reported is they are
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  Speaker 1: making it sensessitionalized by bringing up the more tongue in cheek,
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  Speaker 1: most likely the groups who are like making fun of
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  Speaker 1: this themselves, but creating an outlet for themselves, as in
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  Speaker 1: like they're making fun of our perceptions as insure the
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  Speaker 1: outside of perceptions. So therefore it is a literal joke
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  Speaker 1: on the rest of us in this route. As a
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  Speaker 1: naive individual, it feels shocking, but it's not in reality
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  Speaker 1: and the fact that as long as again it's safe
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  Speaker 1: and everybody is consensual, there's nothing wrong with us, except
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  Speaker 1: for once again, it needs to be safe, and that
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  Speaker 1: includes pandemic stuff. But it is an interesting level of like,
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  Speaker 1: how are we reporting it, what are we looking at?
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  Speaker 1: And yes, and are we making it even more taboo
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  Speaker 1: finding a reason to make it more taboo because of
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  Speaker 1: the pandemic? Right? And I I will shout out there's
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  Speaker 1: an article, the one that actually was in Atlanta, and
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  Speaker 1: I apologize I can't remember the author, but she she
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  Speaker 1: wrote about going to trapeze in the loft and so
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  Speaker 1: she went and like did it and it wasn't her
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  Speaker 1: first time or whatever, and she was talking about specifically
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  Speaker 1: during the pandemic what was it like? But I appreciated
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  Speaker 1: that it was coming from the point of view, like
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  Speaker 1: she wasn't a frequent goer, but she had been and
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  Speaker 1: was into it, was open to it and talked about
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  Speaker 1: her experience, and I think a part of it too.
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  Speaker 1: Like you said, for a lot of us that does
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  Speaker 1: feel very sensationalized or perhaps taboo. But for someone like
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  Speaker 1: me who's definitely, um like not into sex, reading about
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  Speaker 1: it just felt like I've only seen this in movies
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  Speaker 1: and of course in her entertainment. It's wild and um
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  Speaker 1: she it was interesting to read about, like the logistics
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  Speaker 1: of things and the expectations of things. It was just
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  Speaker 1: I had it heard about it from someone. It was
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  Speaker 1: in that world right, And one of those locations was
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  Speaker 1: shocking to me because I just know of it as
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  Speaker 1: a music venue, so I was like, what, what, oh,
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  Speaker 1: where's this that? So, but let's go back to the
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  Speaker 1: studies for just a second, because most studies conducted during
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  Speaker 1: the pandemic of sex life and health have found decline
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  Speaker 1: in a pretty decent one. Rates of masturbation have gone up, however,
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  Speaker 1: so uh, some studies have found women expressed increased sexual
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  Speaker 1: desire during lockdown than men, which it is interesting. That
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  Speaker 1: is interesting. I think it was like a ten percent
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  Speaker 1: generally of this like a ten percent higher interest. But
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  Speaker 1: I kind of wonder if that's playing on some of
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  Speaker 1: the stuff we've talked about around uh, like I don't
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  Speaker 1: know toxic masculine us the right word, but how there's
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  Speaker 1: this expectation that men will want sex and we'll find sex,
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  Speaker 1: and when you're like, the world is your oyster and
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  Speaker 1: you're not in quarantine, then there's more pressure, whereas for
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  Speaker 1: women it's kind of the opposite. I don't know, I
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  Speaker 1: I just found that really interesting. And again, it may
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  Speaker 1: go back to the whole loneliness factor when women are
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  Speaker 1: kind of in whatever may be the reason we're not
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  Speaker 1: in touch with many people. We don't even see our friends.
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  Speaker 1: All of that, the whole needing again touch starving being
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  Speaker 1: started to touch in general, which is translated to well,
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  Speaker 1: I really I need some sex that means second to
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  Speaker 1: be touched and cut it on. You know. One of
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  Speaker 1: my favorite lines from Sex in the City as the
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  Speaker 1: line I just want him to lay on me. I
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  Speaker 1: just need his body to lay on me. Like she's
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  Speaker 1: not even talking about sex. But that was kind of
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  Speaker 1: the level and I'm like, yeah, I get that. I
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  Speaker 1: definitely it. I became one of my phrases for a while,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I just need someone to lay on me.
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  Speaker 1: Like it became a thing. And maybe that loneliness pushed
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  Speaker 1: it up a little bit. I could see that for sure.
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  Speaker 1: For sure. Um, and you know we started with sex
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  Speaker 1: in the city. Let's end with sex in the city.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. Yes, I'm always happy, happy to have the
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: sex in the city context around. Yeah. Just you know,
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  Speaker 1: have say sex always COVID wise and always always wise
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