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Justin Pearson Refuses to Celebrate Columbus Day · ToddCast Podcast with Todd Starnes

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  Speaker 1: From the principal Toyota studios, it's Morning in Memphis with
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  Speaker 1: Todd Starnes.
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  Speaker 2: And hello, everybody. It is going to be another beautiful
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  Speaker 2: day here in the Mid-South.
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  Speaker 3: Great to have you with us.
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  Speaker 2: as we get through what is a very busy news
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  Speaker 2: day and really a pretty busy news cycle here in
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  Speaker 2: not just the Mid-South but around the nation today. Also,
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  Speaker 2: happy National M & M Day. Whether you like the
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  Speaker 2: M & M' s peanut or plain or almond or whatever
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  Speaker 2: flavor they have, today is the day to celebrate by
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  Speaker 2: eating M & M' s. So we'll be taking your calls.
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  Speaker 2: Are you a peanut or plain M & M fan? 901-260-5926,
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  Speaker 2: our telephone number. That's 901-260-5926. A lot of news happening,
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  Speaker 2: and we're going to give you the very latest on
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  Speaker 2: this crazy story that happened over the weekend. And it's
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  Speaker 2: a disturbing story involving five people who were killed, five
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  Speaker 2: young people. And we're talking about kids in their very
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  Speaker 2: early 20s. who were killed when they collided with a
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  Speaker 2: police cruiser. This happening over the weekend, five people killed,
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  Speaker 2: three injured, including two cops. And Fox 13 obtained a
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  Speaker 2: surveillance video that showed the crash as it happened. And
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of debate now. By the way, this
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  Speaker 2: happened at Hickory Hill Road and East Rains Road, an
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  Speaker 2: intersection that has had a number of car accidents. Police
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  Speaker 2: said that the officers were actually responding to a shooting.
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  Speaker 2: The individual at the shooting actually died. So they were
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  Speaker 2: on their way, lights and sirens blaring everywhere. And the
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  Speaker 2: patrol car blew through the intersection. Now, the question is,
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  Speaker 2: and this is going to be for the Tennessee Highway Patrol,
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  Speaker 2: was the light green? Was it red? It doesn't really
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  Speaker 2: matter because under Tennessee law, if a police car has
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  Speaker 2: lights and sirens going, they control the roadways at that point.
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  Speaker 2: So the question then becomes– there was no attempt for
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  Speaker 2: anybody to slow down. The police, they were flying to
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  Speaker 2: the crime scene, as they were legally allowed to do.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't see any negligence on the part of
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  Speaker 2: the police department here. But the question then becomes, okay–
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  Speaker 2: Did the car slow down? The other car did not
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  Speaker 2: slow down. So they may not have heard the sirens,
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  Speaker 2: may not have seen the lights, which is possible. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: if you've got a car full of kids and they're
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  Speaker 2: out late at night probably listening to music, probably just
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  Speaker 2: didn't hear anything because there was no attempt to slow
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  Speaker 2: down based on the surveillance video that that I saw.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm very curious to hear your thoughts here. But again,
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  Speaker 2: under Tennessee law, the police have the right of way,
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  Speaker 2: especially if they are on their way to a crime
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  Speaker 2: that is happening in real time. And that's what was
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  Speaker 2: going on over the weekend. This happened early, early Sunday morning,
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  Speaker 2: around 12, 1230 a.m. We understand the two police officers
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  Speaker 2: were injured and They're out of the hospital. The last
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  Speaker 2: person in the car is to the there were six
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  Speaker 2: people in the vehicle, five people dead. And the sixth
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  Speaker 2: is still in critical condition.
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  Speaker 3: At the hospital.
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  Speaker 2: So that's all the information we have right now. And
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  Speaker 2: when I tell you this police department, they do not
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  Speaker 2: like to release information. You really have to poke and
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  Speaker 2: pride to get the intel. And there's just not a
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  Speaker 2: lot coming out about this. Last night, there was an
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  Speaker 2: incident involving a Memphis police cruiser hitting a pedestrian. So
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  Speaker 2: we're following that story as well. That happened on Austin
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  Speaker 2: Peay Highway between Coleman and Jones Road. Police say the
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  Speaker 2: pedestrian entered the roadway and was struck by the vehicle.
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  Speaker 2: I will just say this only because... It's fresh on
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  Speaker 2: my mind. I will just say this when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to motorists here in the Mid-South. They don't pay any
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  Speaker 2: attention at all to any rules on the roadways, period.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll just tell you, on the way in this morning,
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  Speaker 2: almost got sideswiped by a car that was coming off
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  Speaker 2: the I-240, you know, that loop there on the Poplar.
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  Speaker 2: And people just don't care. And they do not pay
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  Speaker 2: attention to the roadways. They don't pay attention to speed limit.
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  Speaker 2: And as a result, it is a very dangerous thing
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  Speaker 2: to be on Memphis roadways. I mean, that's just the
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  Speaker 2: reality of it. Anyway, if you want to weigh in
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  Speaker 2: on that, but just a horribly tragic story, five young
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  Speaker 2: people out and, you know, doing what young people do
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  Speaker 2: on a weekend night, having a good time, and they
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  Speaker 2: lost their lives. So there you go, 901-260-5926, our telephone number.
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  Speaker 3: That's 901-260-5926. All right, Justin Pearson, back in the news again. Man,
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  Speaker 3: this guy.
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  Speaker 2: Is— so first of all, he is now claiming himself to
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  Speaker 2: be a victim, and he's really upset that KWAM actually
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  Speaker 2: posted the letter that he received from Memphis City Council
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  Speaker 2: banning him from what.
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  Speaker 3: The next two meetings? I would have had an all-out ban.
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  Speaker 2: You can't come back, sir. But Justin Pearson was, and
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  Speaker 2: Justin Pearson claims that he's innocent. The allegations are that
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  Speaker 2: Justin Pearson disrupted the city council meeting last week, the
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  Speaker 2: one where they had that huge rent-a-mob that was screaming
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  Speaker 2: and causing mayhem. And Justin Pearson, and it's, so he's
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  Speaker 2: the guy with two different voices. My brothers and my sisters,
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  Speaker 2: we have to be righteous in our fight. Well, now
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  Speaker 2: he's got another voice that he uses and had a
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  Speaker 2: press conference just a few days ago, and it pretty
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  Speaker 2: much went like this. Memphis, I'm just very concerned because
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  Speaker 2: I am the victim. I haven't done anything at all.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just a preacher, son. And I'm just out there trying. No,
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  Speaker 2: this guy, there's photographic and video evidence of Justin Pearson
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  Speaker 2: with a megaphone, a bullhorn inside City Hall causing all
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  Speaker 2: sorts of chaos. And the city council was right to
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  Speaker 2: do what they did. By the way, the local media
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  Speaker 2: won't tell you about this. But all those folks... Well,
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  Speaker 2: even some of the Republicans are a little squished. I
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  Speaker 2: think it's safe to call just about everybody up there
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  Speaker 2: on that.
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  Speaker 3: Podium a Democrat. And let me say this.
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  Speaker 2: The Democrats, they rebuked one of their own. How bad
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  Speaker 2: do you have to be to be rebuked by Democrats
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  Speaker 2: in Memphis?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's what we're talking about here.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, Justin Pearson, he's very upset at KWAM and
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  Speaker 2: says that we doxed the guy. We didn't dox anybody.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody sent us a copy. Somebody who is very well
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  Speaker 2: placed sent us a copy of that letter, and we
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  Speaker 2: blurred out the address, the guy's address. But they're all upset,
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  Speaker 2: and they want us to remove that letter that is
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  Speaker 2: calling him out. And we're not going to do it.
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  Speaker 2: We are not going to do it. So now Pearson
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  Speaker 2: is out. Yesterday, Columbus Day, a great day for Italian-Americans.
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  Speaker 2: And Justin Pearson telling all the Italian-Americans in the Mid-South
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  Speaker 2: to go blank themselves. He said that he's celebrating Indigenous
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  Speaker 2: Peoples Day. Cut number 18.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes God will use imperfect people. Let me get on
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  Speaker 3: out of here. To write down some perfect words.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm on my way out, but the three most
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  Speaker 2: important words that I think were ever written in our
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  Speaker 2: founding documents that we have an opportunity to reclaim and
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  Speaker 2: that we should reclaim, particularly in our labor movement, are.
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  Speaker 3: We the people.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't say we the billionaires.
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  Speaker 3: They didn't say.
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  Speaker 2: We the big conglomerates.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't say we the corporations. They didn't even say
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  Speaker 1: we the white men landowning people.
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  Speaker 3: They just said we the people. Y'all, we the people. We,
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  Speaker 3: the people. When I say we, you say the people.
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  Speaker 2: We, we, we, we, the.
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  Speaker 1: People who will fight for one job to be enough.
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  Speaker 3: For that minimum.
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  Speaker 1: Wage to be $ 25 an hour.
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  Speaker 3: We, the people.
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  Speaker 2: The people who will make sure with our last breath
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  Speaker 2: that everybody gets access to health care in rural America,
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  Speaker 2: in suburban America, in urban America, all across the United
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  Speaker 2: States of America.
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  Speaker 3: We, the people who understand that our beauty is in
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  Speaker 3: our diversity.
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  Speaker 2: I'm fairly certain this guy doesn't care about anybody in
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  Speaker 2: the suburbs. By the way, I wonder if he's going
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  Speaker 2: to be like Paul Young and will eventually live in
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  Speaker 2: a gated community. And send the kids to private school,
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  Speaker 2: you know, being we the people kind of a guy.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, Pearson is just a radical leftist. I have
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  Speaker 2: no idea what any of this has to do with
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  Speaker 2: Columbus Day. But anyway, Pearson sharing the video on social
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  Speaker 2: media saying that he only celebrates in December.
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  Speaker 3: People Day.
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  Speaker 2: So we did a little bit of a deep dive
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  Speaker 2: on what exactly Indigenous People's Day is. And ladies and gentlemen,
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  Speaker 2: just so you know, the Indigenous People of America and
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  Speaker 2: the whole idea of land acknowledgments and this idea that
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  Speaker 2: The white man came in and stole the land.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: This is conquered land. And the indigenous people were conquering
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  Speaker 2: each other's land long before the white man, before Paleface
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  Speaker 2: ever showed up at Plymouth Rock. We're talking about indigenous
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  Speaker 2: people who were savages, who massacred thousands of women and children.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, Justin Pearson's also talking about celebrating
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  Speaker 2: those indigenous people who literally took slaves.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: I hate to break it to you, but as long
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  Speaker 2: as we're talking truth here, let's talk truth. Long before
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  Speaker 2: the pilgrims came... There were slaves in America, and the
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  Speaker 2: Indians are the ones who had the slaves. So if
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  Speaker 2: you want to have that conversation, we can. I'm just
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  Speaker 2: rather befuddled why Justin Pearson would be celebrating those kinds
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  Speaker 2: of folks, but, you know, to each his own. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: President Trump over the weekend had this to say. Again,
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  Speaker 2: this is President Trump, and I don't know about you,
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  Speaker 2: this is a little embarrassing that the president of the
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  Speaker 2: United States has to come to Tennessee and tell all
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  Speaker 2: you folk that, hey, look— You've got one of the
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  Speaker 2: most radical guys running for Congress in America right here
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  Speaker 2: in Tennessee. Cut number four.
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  Speaker 3: And Brent Taylor in the 9th District.
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  Speaker 1: Come on up, fellas. And Brent is running against one
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  Speaker 1: of the most radical candidates.
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  Speaker 4: In the country.
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  Speaker 3: I told you.
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  Speaker 1: His name is Justin Pearson, a communist endorsed by AOC,
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  Speaker 1: Ilhan Omar. How about Ilhan Omar? She comes from Somalia.
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  Speaker 1: She comes from Somalia. They don't have a government.
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  Speaker 3: They don't have police. All they have.
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  Speaker 1: Is crime and squalor. And she comes into our country,
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  Speaker 1: and she says, my constitution allows me. She's talking about
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  Speaker 1: our constitution. What they've done to Minnesota, these people from Somalia,
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  Speaker 1: what they've done to Minnesota should never be allowed. And
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  Speaker 1: let's see what happens. J.D. Vance and our people are
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  Speaker 1: looking at it very strongly. So... Justin opposes deporting even
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  Speaker 1: one illegal alien, even murderers. They should stay here. This
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  Speaker 1: guy that he's running against is the worst. We're not
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  Speaker 1: going to let communists. We are not going to allow
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  Speaker 1: communists to take over Tennessee or this country in any way,
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  Speaker 1: shape or form.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I sure hope not. But I'm just going to
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  Speaker 2: tell you, Republicans here in Tennessee doing a lousy job
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  Speaker 2: right now of making sure that doesn't happen.
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  Speaker 3: I am just stunned.
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  Speaker 2: It just seems like there is this lackadaisical attitude towards
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  Speaker 2: the midterm election right here in the volunteer state, which,
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  Speaker 2: quite frankly, we ought to be the reddest state in
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  Speaker 2: all of America. But I am seeing more Justin Hatley
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  Speaker 2: and Jerry Green signs than I am Marsha Blackburn signs.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm just cautioning you, if we have a low
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  Speaker 2: turnout among Republican voters, Jerry Green will be the next
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  Speaker 2: governor of the state of Tennessee. I mean, that's just
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  Speaker 2: the reality of it. David Hatley is going to pull
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  Speaker 2: enough votes away from Blackburn, which is one of the
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  Speaker 2: reasons why the Blackburn campaign has been out there posting
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  Speaker 2: all of these attack ads, negative ads, reminding everybody that
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  Speaker 2: 30-something years ago— Hatley was engaged in criminal activity. So
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  Speaker 2: they want people to know that because they are concerned
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  Speaker 2: about the internal polling that shows there is just a
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  Speaker 2: demoralized base of Republican voters right now. And that you
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  Speaker 2: guys are going to have to overcome that. The only
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  Speaker 2: person that can get you out of your house is
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  Speaker 2: And to kick you in the blessed assurance to get
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  Speaker 2: you to the poll, early voting starts tomorrow, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: is you. You, ultimately, you're responsible for that. All right,
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  Speaker 2: we got to take a break here. Our telephone number, 901-260-5926.
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  Speaker 3: Are you voting? Who are you voting for?
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  Speaker 2: Or if you're not going to vote, why are you
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  Speaker 2: not going to vote this election cycle?
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  Speaker 3: 901-260-5926.
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  Speaker 2: Let's check in with Commander Chuck standing by with a
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  Speaker 2: look at your morning commute. All right, our good friends
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  Speaker 2: over at the Catholic Church of the Incarnation, that's in Collierville,
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  Speaker 2: sent us a note. Pardon me, their fall festival opens
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  Speaker 2: this coming Friday. They're going to have carnival rides, live music,
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  Speaker 2: a big barbecue competition, and everything starts Friday at 5
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  Speaker 2: o'clock through 10 o'clock at night. And the festival goes
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  Speaker 2: on through the weekend. By the way, all of the
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  Speaker 2: proceeds are going to help local organizations, including the Dorothy
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  Speaker 2: Day House and All Fours Rescue League. So that's going
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  Speaker 2: to be a lot of fun. And just also a reminder,
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  Speaker 2: you heard one of the cast members from Million Dollar
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  Speaker 2: Quartet on the show yesterday. Theater Memphis opening Million Dollar
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  Speaker 2: Quartet Friday night. And the musical recreates the famous Sun
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  Speaker 2: Records gathering of Elvis, Johnny Cash, Jerry Lee Lewis and
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  Speaker 2: Carl Perkins, all four of whom played a very significant
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  Speaker 2: role in the early days of KWAM radio. So KWAM
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  Speaker 2: known across really the world. for its role in promoting
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  Speaker 2: musicians like Johnny Cash and B.B. King, for example. So anyway,
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  Speaker 2: the musical, which is going to be phenomenal, opens 7.30
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  Speaker 2: Friday night, and the production continues through November the 7th,
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  Speaker 2: and you can get tickets very affordable. there at the
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  Speaker 2: theater's website. All right, 901-260-5926, our telephone number. That's 901-260-5926.
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  Speaker 2: Coming up, Steve Gill from TriStar Daily joins us from Nashville.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to get the lay of the land as
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  Speaker 2: it comes to politics. The big question is the debate,
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  Speaker 2: and we do have a development there. And first of all,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just curious to know if you really care about
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  Speaker 2: debates among the candidates. Do you believe it's important for
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  Speaker 2: candidates to take part in debates? That's been a big,
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  Speaker 2: big question. As a matter of fact, in Georgia, Rick Jackson,
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  Speaker 2: the gubernatorial candidate there, the Republican, says he will not debate.
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  Speaker 2: He says that out of the 10,000 people he's personally
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  Speaker 2: talked to Not a single person says that a debate
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  Speaker 2: is important. Now, here in Tennessee, Marsha Blackburn refuses, flat
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  Speaker 2: out refuses. She refused to debate her Republican primary opponents,
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  Speaker 2: and she's also refusing to debate the Democrats and independents
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  Speaker 2: running against her. However, there is going to be a debate.
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  Speaker 2: The Tennessee Press Association is hosting the debate at MTSU,
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  Speaker 2: and three out of the four major candidates will, in fact,
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  Speaker 2: be participating. Marsha Blackburn will not be participating in the debate.
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  Speaker 2: But Jerry Green, David Hatley, and Laura Pinkston, all three
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  Speaker 2: of them have agreed to debate. I'm just curious about you.
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  Speaker 2: Is this a missed opportunity for Republicans?
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  Speaker 3: 901-260-5926, our number. We'll be right back.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it is going to be a nice warm day here,
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  Speaker 2: but big, big cool down coming. It's going to feel
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  Speaker 2: like fall later this weekend here in the Mid-South. Also,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: a lot of folks heading down to New Orleans for
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  Speaker 2: the big game. This is, what is it, Thursday or
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  Speaker 2: Friday this week? You've got the Tigers taking on Tulane,
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  Speaker 2: the Green Wave. So safe travels to all of our
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  Speaker 2: good friends here in the Mid-South as they head make
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  Speaker 2: the road trip to support our now what five and
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  Speaker 2: one Memphis Tigers. Well done guys. And coach Huff doing
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  Speaker 2: a great job over there. Oh, by the way, guess what?
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  Speaker 2: Justin Pearson's wife has entered the conversation. She's weighing in
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  Speaker 2: on our Facebook live stream over on the mighty nine
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  Speaker 2: 90 Facebook page. And again, she's accusing K-WAM of doxing
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  Speaker 2: her family's home address. And the, and by the way,
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  Speaker 2: We've actually we actually blurred the address on the letter,
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  Speaker 2: the official letter that was sent from City Hall to
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  Speaker 2: Justin Pearson, telling him that his butt was banned from
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  Speaker 2: the city council meeting. And now Mrs. I guess Justin
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  Speaker 2: is sending out Mrs. Pearson to fight his battles. What
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  Speaker 2: does that tell you about Justin Pearson? Who wears the
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  Speaker 2: pants there? Anyway, Justin is very upset now, and he feels, well,
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  Speaker 2: the clinical term is butt hurt.
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  Speaker 3: We're just the victims here.
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  Speaker 2: Those big meanies, they wouldn't let me into the meeting
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  Speaker 2: with my bullhorned.
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  Speaker 3: And now they're coming after me. We're the victims. We
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  Speaker 3: the people.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's who he is. He's out there playing the
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  Speaker 2: victim card. Oh, by the way, first of all, and
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  Speaker 2: we didn't dox anybody. We got a copy of that letter.
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  Speaker 2: So did a lot of other folks in the media.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, you know what they're really upset
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  Speaker 2: about is Steve Cohen has not endorsed Justin Pearson. And
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  Speaker 2: that's the dirty secret. A lot of Democrats, they can't
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  Speaker 2: stand this guy because Justin Pearson is all about Justin Pearson.
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  Speaker 2: He's not about the people. He's done diddly squat for
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  Speaker 2: the people. All right, I want to go to the
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  Speaker 2: Patriot Mobile Newsmaker line this morning. Say hello to our
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  Speaker 2: good buddy Steve Gill from Nashville, the publisher of TriStar Daily,
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  Speaker 2: a premier Tennessee political news organization. Steve, good to have
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  Speaker 2: you with us today.
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  Speaker 4: Good to be here, and I've got to tell you
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  Speaker 4: that Pearson has raised literally millions of dollars with his
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: high-profile Tennessee Three antics and all the other antics and
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: things he does. And one of the reasons Democrats are
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: upset with him is he hasn't put one dime of
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: that into helping elect other Democrats. It's all about him,
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: as you pointed out. It's all about, hey, look at me.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: And that's one of many reasons why I think Democrats
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: are not fans of Justin Pearson outside his little far-left, woke,
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: Hassan Piker-type crowd.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: And of course, he is a good friend of Hassan Piker.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: They were sharing a couch together. And Piker, of course,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: hates America, thinks America deserved 9-11. These are the kinds
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: of people that Justin Pearson hangs around with.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: And I think, again, the more people learn about him,
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: particularly outside of the closed environs of Memphis. And again,
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: he's traveling outside Memphis a little bit now. He was
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: in in Williamson County, one of the bastions of Republicanism
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: across the state, trying to reach out to some of
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: the folks who've moved into Williamson County in the last
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: few years from California and Chicago and New York. And
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: there are some woke you know, women in Williamson County
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: that he's trying to appeal to. I don't think it's
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: enough to make a difference. I think Brent Taylor still
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: is the on track to win that new ninth district
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: as it's been redesigned congressional seat. But as you point out,
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: the fact that Steve Cohen hasn't endorsed Justin Pearson is
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: a big reason why there's questions about his own appeal
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: within the Democratic Party. And the reason that Cohen hasn't
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: endorsed him is because, well, Cohen knows him.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: About 69%, almost 70% of the money going to his campaign.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: came from out of state. And that tells you a
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: lot about who Justin Pearson is. Even London Lamar, I'm
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: just telling you, rank and file, and if they would
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: be moderate to liberal Democrats, they're not having anything to
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: do with this guy. So they see him for who
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: and what he really is. Steve, I've got to play
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: this audio. This was just posted by Jerry Green. She's
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: up in Clarksville. And let's take a listen to what
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Jerry Green has to say.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Hey, this is Jerry Green, Green for Governor. I'm here
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: in Jackson, Tennessee tonight. You know, I hear the dear.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Arms leader was in Clarksville stumping for Marsha Blackburn because,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: you know, there's no Democrats and.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: She's definitely going to win. But I don't know, guys.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: I think I found some.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Steve, what you don't see there is a massive crowd
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: of people. And I'm just going to tell you that
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: the crowds I'm seeing for Marsha Blackburn are paling in
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: comparison to the crowds for Jerry Green and David Hatley.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: What are you seeing out there? Is this an anomaly
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: or is something else going on?
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: I'm seeing exactly the same thing. David Hatley was just
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: in Sneedville, Tennessee, not a huge environment. Packed house. standing
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: room only. Now, again, they're not exactly going to these
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: 5,000-seat auditoriums like you had with President Trump in Clarksville
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: over the weekend. But when you're pulling 200, 300 people
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: to a political event for a candidate, whether it's Jerry Green,
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: whether it's David Hatley, that says something's going on out
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: there that isn't necessarily making the news media, isn't necessarily
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: the kind of standard late term when you're getting into
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: the last three weeks of a campaign. And again, I
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: think Jerry Green's attracting good crowds. I think David's attracting
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: good crowds. And again, Marsha is having an anemic campaign.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: She is out of money, and they're having to depend
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: on these dark money, out-of-state billionaires to fund these attack
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: ads on increasingly not just David Hatley, but Jerry Green.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: If Marsha is winning and is absolutely unbeatable as Ward Baker,
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: her consultant, has regularly said, why are they running attack ads?
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: If she has a lead that is so big that
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: it's insurmountable, why is she running attack ads?
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: It's a good question, and again, I don't necessarily have
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: the answer to that. I know that the Tennessee Press
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Association announcing today There is going to be a debate.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: You're going to see Hatley, Jerry Green, and Pinkston, Lauren Pinkston,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: up on that stage. Blackburn simply refuses to debate. Do
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: you see anything coming out of that? And do you
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: buy the argument that Tennessee voters really do not care
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: about debates?
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: I think Tennessee voters do care. And it's a strategy
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: on Marsha's part to say, I'm not going to debate.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: I don't want to give my opponents any airtime. Well,
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: they're getting plenty of airtime as it is. One of
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: my friends pointed out that Marsha didn't want to debate
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: John Rose during the primary, and he's an avowed capitalist.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: David Hatley is a capitalist. Won't debate Jerry Green because
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: she's a socialist, so she won't debate socialist or capitalist.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: What's Marsha?
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Steve Gill joining us on the Patriot Mobile Newsmaker line.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: By the way, I want to go through those FEC
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: filings on the Pearson-Taylor race. And Pearson clearly has really
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: he's got twice as much money as Brent Taylor has.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: And he's raised well over two million dollars. Now, Taylor
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: has pretty much self-financed his race, gave his campaign a
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: million dollar loan. And that accounts for nearly 65 percent
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: of his receipts. To your point, though, it's interesting. The
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Republicans are not raising a lot of cash here in Tennessee.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that's one of the problems sampling
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: Marsha Blackburn. She is not having successful fundraising at this
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: stage of the game. As you mentioned, at least self-funding.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: People have been throwing out this $ 20 million figure that
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: has been thrown out there that he's going to spend.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: As he's pointed out, he never said that. He's put
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: in $ 7 to $ 10 million, which.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: In the last 60 days of the campaign is a
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: significant amount, and we've never seen that from an independent
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: in Tennessee before. I think it's also interesting when you
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: look at Greene, if the Democrats really thought she had
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: a chance to win the governor's race, they'd be putting
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: in National Democratic Party money. They're spending their time on
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: Senate races and House races across the country. I think
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: if she really had a shot and the polling was
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: showing that she has a shot to win, you would
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: see the National Democrats putting money in. The state Democratic
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: Party has no money, so they can't do anything to
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: help her. And you're seeing that in some of the
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: the House races around the state as well. You're not
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: seeing them pouring money into Darden Copeland, who's running in
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Middle Tennessee. You're not seeing them putting that into Matt
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: Van Epps, although he's put about $ 2 million of his
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: own money into the race. So you look at what
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: the National Democrats are doing. They don't see Tennessee in play,
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: or they'd be putting their money here.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no. I hear you on that.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: And I do wonder if the play for Democrats is
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: that Hatley will pull away votes from Marsha Blackburn. Monty
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Fritz has not endorsed the John Rose. I know Marsha
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: was on KWAM. The senator was on KWAM a couple
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: of days ago touting the Rose endorsement. But it was
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: I don't think he actually mentioned her name. He was
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: just said he's going to be backing the nominee.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: No, and that was election night, and exactly. He said, hey,
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: the election's over now. We need to get behind our nominee.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: He has not said anything endorsing Marsha since then. Marnie
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: Fritz has not endorsed Marsha Blackburn in any kind of
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: formal sense. So she was not being completely honest when
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: she's trying to claim that, oh, John Rose is on
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: my team. She has not reached out, nor has her team,
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: to John Rose since election night, this call for party
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: unity requires the winner to actually try to build some
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: party unity. And there's been no effort on her part
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: or her team's part to get that done, which is
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: why you still have the hangover of the bitter contested
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: primary where she got 43% of the vote. And not
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: doing the outreach, unfortunately, I think shows whether it's the arrogance,
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: whether it's The punitive approach that their campaign is taking,
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: it is a harbinger to what we'll see if she
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: gets elected.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: The race I am the most fascinated about, though, and
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: there are a lot of them here in Tennessee. is
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: this Chas Mulder-Charlie Hatcher matchup. And it just seems to
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: me on paper you would think Charlie Hatcher would have
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: the edge. Former Ag Commissioner, you know, West Tennessee, Ag country.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: And yet when you look at the numbers, Chas Mulder,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: the longtime mayor of Columbia, Tennessee, $ 2. 6 million total raised.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Charlie Hatcher, $ 720, 000. And right now, cash on hand, Mulder's
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: got $ 1.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: 5 million.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Charlie Hatcher over only $ 104, 000. What's going on there? Well,
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: of that $ 2.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: 6 million that Chas Mulder is reporting, $ 2.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: Million is what he has put into his campaign. So
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: his actual fundraising is not as significant as you might think.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: He's been very successful in raising money because Democrats saw
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: this as an opportunity when Chas was anticipating running against
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: Sandy Ogles, who was very poor when it came to
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: raising money and had a lot of issues. Hatcher got
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: him first in the primary. So again, it is a
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: probably plus $ 12 million. Republican district, the way it's been designed.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: It's very rural. If Chaz's name didn't sound like a
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: fraternity bro, Chaz, if it was Chuck instead of Chaz,
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: he'd probably have a better chance in those rural counties.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: But he's a very urban kind of candidate that doesn't
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: necessarily appeal there. And certainly, while he is trying to
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: moderate and talk about how moderate he is as a Democrat,
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: That only lasts until he gets to Washington, because not
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: a single Democrat has crossed party lines once they get
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: to Washington to vote to restrict men in women's locker rooms,
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: men in women's sports. They are avowed DEI socialist woke
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: once they get to Washington. And what people in that
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: district and across the state have to figure out is
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: Democrats may talk moderate when they're running moderate. But you
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: have to see what they do after they get elected.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: Well, let me jump in, though. No, no, no. Let
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: me jump in here. All right, Steve, stop for a second.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: Let me jump in here.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: I brought that up to Mulder yesterday on this show,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: and he said that he's got an eight-year track record
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: in Columbia of running as one of those old blue-dog Democrats.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: That's his argument.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: Yes, but again, he's not dealing with the national issues.
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: And And you've got a lot of these Democrats, again,
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: once they get to Washington, they don't step one step
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: aside from the leadership. So he just brought in the
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: endorsement of Beshear, the governor of Kentucky, who just vetoed
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: legislation that would have banned women men in women's sports,
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: men in women's locker rooms. Bashir pretends to be a moderate,
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: and yet that's quite a moderate that Chas Mulder is
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: molding himself after. So again, you look at what they do,
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: not what they say.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Gary Humble has come after me for something I wrote,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: and I want to get your take on this. When
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: it comes to the Republican Party, I vote for the candidates.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: You have a fierce primary vote. then the winners, you
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: get behind and you unify. That is not happening across
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Tennessee right now. It's just not happening. And so you've got,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: even at the local level, you've got Republican Party clubs
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: that are supporting independent candidates instead of the Republican nominees
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: for the races. And my point is, we've got to unite.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: And Gary Humble, writing this, he said, Todd, you see
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: the state of the party. Has it gotten better or
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: has it gotten worse? In other words, has the party
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: held the conservative line over the decades or has it
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: become watered down or compromised?
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: What say you, Steve?
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: It seems to me, I mean, is the argument that
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Tennessee is a radical leftist state under Republican rule?
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: Well, that would be the farthest thing from reality. But
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: when you look at around the states, In each of
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: the Republican counties, again, Shelby County is an example, Murray
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: County is an example, Sumner County, Williamson County, you have
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: stark divides between the conservatives in these counties and the
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: so-called moderates in the counties. I mean, there's a clear
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: divide in the Republican Party in Shelby County that is
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: hampering candidates as.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: They're moving forward.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: And I think if we really want to see unity
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: after primaries, we need to move to runoff elections like
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: you have in South Carolina and Georgia and a host
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: of other states. Because Marsha Blackburn only got 43 percent
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: of the vote in the primary, and she has not
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: reached out to create unity with Democrats. with the opponents
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: that she defeated, or with the people who backed those people.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: There's been recrimination and retribution already targeting people who endorsed
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: John Rose or who supported John Rose, either with money
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: or with their voices. That's not a path to unity.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: But if we had a runoff election where people would
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: have to actually get over 50% of the vote in
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: the primary in order to be the Republican nominee, I
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: think your point would have a lot more validity. And
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: the biggest thing, and I agree with you in general
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: on this, Todd, but when you look at our criticism
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: of Democrats, it's because they put party ahead of principle.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: They put party ahead of policy. They put party ahead
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: of America. That's our biggest criticism of the Democrats. Well,
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: if we're just lockstep bobbleheads of, okay, whoever's got the
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: R after their name gets my vote no matter what,
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: no matter if they're wrong on a variety of issues,
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: no matter if they don't have the experience and credentials
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: of other independent candidates, then how are we any different
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: from the Democrats?
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: And if that's what voters, if that's the mindset, though,
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: on Election Day, then Jerry Green will become the next
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: governor of the state of Tennessee. And I don't see
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: how we're better off because of that. Steve, I've got
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: to run. The conversation and debate continues. That is healthy,
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: and we are happy to have those conversations here on KWAM.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Steve Gill, everybody, TristarDaily.com. We'll be right back. All right.
• 35:49
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• 35:53
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• 35:57
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• 36:00
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• 36:02
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• 36:05
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• 36:09
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• 36:11
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• 36:16
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• 36:19
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• 36:21
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• 36:24
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• 36:28
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• 36:30
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• 36:34
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• 36:36
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