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#SaveStargate · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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  Speaker 1: I'm scheduled Barkeball activation getting a Gates a bonus episode
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  Speaker 1: I would like to call it, but bonus I feel
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  Speaker 1: like has this sort of positive spin on it, and
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  Speaker 1: it's not really what we're here to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: Something positive. But there's an extra episode on top of
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  Speaker 2: our regular episodes on the show which recovering us.
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  Speaker 3: To do a little breaking news breaking. Oh wait, it's
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  Speaker 3: a week old.
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  Speaker 2: That's okay. It's the first time we've had to get
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  Speaker 2: face to face with each other. We want to sort
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  Speaker 2: of like let the dust settle, and you know, Mitch,
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  Speaker 2: Maddie Brendan all here to mate talk about news that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we were firing off in our group chat.
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  Speaker 2: It was a very early morning sort of message storm
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  Speaker 2: on our fronts as it came through, and we've just
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  Speaker 2: sort of been marinating on it, and we were just
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  Speaker 2: talking about the fact that it feels like it's been
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  Speaker 2: about a month because it feels like so much talk
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  Speaker 2: has happened around this over the last week with fantoms
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  Speaker 2: and stuff, and of course, yeah, talking about the shit show.
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  Speaker 2: That was the news, the sad, heartbreaking news that Amazon,
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  Speaker 2: eight months after announcing that they're putting a full season
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  Speaker 2: order in for a new Stargate show with Martin Gear
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  Speaker 2: at the Helm that is no longer and they are
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  Speaker 2: just straight up canceling it. We're not going back to
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  Speaker 2: the drawing board. We are canceling it.
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  Speaker 3: Look, let's face, you don't come to us for current
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  Speaker 3: events and news. You know, you know, you don't come
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  Speaker 3: to us as to be the to have out, you know,
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  Speaker 3: to have your finger on the pulse of everything's going on.
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  Speaker 2: We started reviewing the show nineteen years after.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, we're on a news podcast. Yes it's this is
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  Speaker 4: a review of the cancelation and what's become of it.
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear Maddie's director's commentary audio bits.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah for that too. Yeah, So do you want
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  Speaker 2: do you actually want to start with the the article itself,
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  Speaker 2: which everyone would be very well versed in, but it'd
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  Speaker 2: be nicest to go back to what the news was
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  Speaker 2: when it broke. So it was Variety, the very reputable
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  Speaker 2: website that is Variety. Well, they're just one of the
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  Speaker 2: good ones.
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  Speaker 3: I think, you know, I have not I have nothing
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  Speaker 3: to go, but I listened.
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  Speaker 4: To people who want to spoke absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: Like I'm more of a Hollywood reporter guy myself.
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  Speaker 2: And that day. That's fine just because I like it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it to get shortened thr TX can't.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's again, that's got a real sci fi
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  Speaker 2: all right, Stargate TV series. So Martin Guiro not moving
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  Speaker 2: forward at Amazon. The new Stargate TV series has been
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  Speaker 2: acted at Amazon, Variety has learned exclusively. And then didn't
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  Speaker 2: it catch online? The first the show that was first
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  Speaker 2: announced with a series order in November twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 2: It hailed from writer, executive producer, show runner Martin Guiro,
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  Speaker 2: who was a writer on SG one in Atlantis early
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  Speaker 2: in his career. According to an individual with knowledge of
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  Speaker 2: the situation, they don't like to use the word source
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  Speaker 2: because that sounds like bullshit. An individual with knowledge of
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  Speaker 2: the situation, Amazon execs were concerned that Ghiro's take on
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  Speaker 2: the series would not have broad appeal beyond the franchises
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  Speaker 2: already dedicated fan base, and they go on to say that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it was back in twenty twenty two they
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  Speaker 2: were looking to first develop something with Stargate because obviously
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  Speaker 2: they took on MGM, so they've got all these ips
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  Speaker 2: with existing franchises. Although Guiro series will not proceed. Amazon
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  Speaker 2: is still exploring new ways to further the franchise, and
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  Speaker 2: that Gira remains under an overall deal at Amazon MGM
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  Speaker 2: and will continue to develop projects going forward. Wouldn't that
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  Speaker 2: just be such a bit of pill to swallow? Like,
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  Speaker 2: you can keep working here, but it's not going to
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  Speaker 2: be the thing that you.
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  Speaker 3: Love kind of started your career and that you're really
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  Speaker 3: passionate about and you can wait to get back to
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  Speaker 3: last eight months?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah you think you He did blind Spot right, like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, ten twelve years ago doing blind Spot going Man,
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  Speaker 2: if this goes well, this could put me back into
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  Speaker 2: a Stargate seat one, you know, when he finally got there.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean it makes sense. I mean, who who
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  Speaker 3: really wants to, like, you know, have an existing fan
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  Speaker 3: base for a show that you don't like. Why would
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  Speaker 3: you let's just start something completely new. You've got to
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  Speaker 3: build an entirely new fan base from Why why you
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  Speaker 3: even use an ip?
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  Speaker 4: Then?
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  Speaker 2: Like and crazy if that's the reason and it's not
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  Speaker 2: just purely money thing And this this makes it sound
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  Speaker 2: like a very you know, smart business decision. I understand
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  Speaker 2: that black or White. I understand the idea of like,
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  Speaker 2: well if it's only going to appeal to this. Then
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  Speaker 2: we're crunching the numbers and we feel like it's not
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  Speaker 2: going to be if they're going to be putting so
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  Speaker 2: much money per episode or something. And we've worked out
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  Speaker 2: the numbers based on how many people are streaming it
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  Speaker 2: already or something. But the idea that they could quite
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  Speaker 2: confidently say no, it's not going to have any appeal
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  Speaker 2: to new fans or potential new viewers in an age
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  Speaker 2: of sci fi that we're currently in, and literally that.
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  Speaker 2: The next day, I was at a I was at
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  Speaker 2: a gig talk and Nothing but Football is a footy
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  Speaker 2: gig and I was surrounded by footyheads and this guy
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  Speaker 2: come up to me and I was talking about doing
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  Speaker 2: a podcast and he said, what do you do? Nothing?
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  Speaker 2: You would be into mat. He's just a rugby league
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  Speaker 2: guy and he said what And I said, it's I
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  Speaker 2: talk about Stargate the nineties. He goes, oh, mate, I
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  Speaker 2: love my sci fi TV and what's it called. I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to start listening open upp He subscribed finitial.
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  Speaker 3: Version of Code Switching, Yeah, and not the sports code.
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  Speaker 4: He walks in both the world.
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  Speaker 2: He was sitting there just breaking down all like the
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  Speaker 2: great series on Apple. And these are shows that are
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  Speaker 2: like either new or they've taken on board, or like
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  Speaker 2: you know, even something like Star Trek, which matter you
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  Speaker 2: is a big Star Trek head. Have not enjoyed a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the stuff, but you've kept coming back to
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  Speaker 2: check me. But you know, it has certainly brought on
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  Speaker 2: new viewers that wanted to check it out.
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  Speaker 3: I hate Discovery. I think it's boring, but I love
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  Speaker 3: that it's found a whole new group of Star Trek
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  Speaker 3: fans that that has brought them in and they enjoy it,
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  Speaker 3: and it means that they then are more likely to
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  Speaker 3: watch the ones that I like. The DS nine is
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  Speaker 3: the Voyagers, all those kind of things, and it leads
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  Speaker 3: to more shows being made. And I really enjoyed the
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  Speaker 3: most recent staff Leet Academy, which in a similar boat.
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  Speaker 3: Before the first season, oh no, I think maybe just
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  Speaker 3: after the first season wrapped or sorry aired, they announced
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  Speaker 3: that it's been canceled and we're only get season two
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  Speaker 3: because they've already filmed it.
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  Speaker 2: I guess it's the same. What like starf Wars got
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  Speaker 2: me into it through the.
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  Speaker 4: Pre this one for the listeners, he.
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  Speaker 3: Brought it up.
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  Speaker 2: I blind he brought it out and led you straight
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  Speaker 2: into a ditch like I let you walk in there,
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  Speaker 2: and you had to cop the fall.
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  Speaker 3: You basically you you took me out into the desert
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  Speaker 3: and made me dig my own.
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  Speaker 4: Grape and I shot you in the head and.
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  Speaker 3: You shot me in the bat You put two in
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  Speaker 3: the back of my head and I just fell into it.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry, mate, that's a bullshit Wilm for he But yeah, well,
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  Speaker 4: the story goes that it's some executive from Netflix has
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  Speaker 4: come across to Amazon and he's just gone a someone
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  Speaker 4: or other. It doesn't matter what his name is. Really,
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  Speaker 4: there was the two executives that green Litter. There's the
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  Speaker 4: main boss, Peter something. I'll give you his name in
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  Speaker 4: a second, but Peter is still there. The new Netflix
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  Speaker 4: guys decided I'm canceling because he's.
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  Speaker 3: That when job job title of like world building genre
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  Speaker 3: series world building head.
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  Speaker 2: You said that on the Green chat. I thought you
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  Speaker 2: were paraphrasing.
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  Speaker 3: Re quote from from one of the articles. I think
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  Speaker 3: it might have been from the from the Variety article.
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  Speaker 5: It's his name Blair, Blair, fu face fletter bir stargate. Yeah, imagine,
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  Speaker 5: what's your name, bless Stargate, Blair Stargate, Blair Fetter.
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  Speaker 4: It came out with it straight away. AI tells me
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  Speaker 4: you were likely thinking of Blair Feta. The Amazon MGM
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  Speaker 4: Studios executive overseeing world building in genre series one of
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  Speaker 4: the great titles. If you want to do a wanku
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  Speaker 4: for the whole life?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Is that just then, like as a new age,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like you know, from what Prime was, what Amazon,
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  Speaker 2: I guess what Amazon was before it got into the
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  Speaker 2: entertainment business, and then all of a sudden, like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we're not going to call ourselves what we used to
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  Speaker 2: call that role.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna be yeah, world builder of mythology. It was
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  Speaker 3: a little different here, guys. Yeah, but I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if you know, but we're kind of like.
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  Speaker 2: A big deal and look, to be honest, that would
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  Speaker 2: be a very busy job. When they own giant ips
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  Speaker 2: now like James Bond, and they've got The Lord of
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  Speaker 2: the Rings. They've obviously already poured billions of dollars into
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  Speaker 2: a TV series.
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  Speaker 4: And the Lord of the Rings. They have the Silmarillion.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the right to make the rings of power and
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  Speaker 3: stuff like that.
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  Speaker 4: Power is from the Silmarillion, apparently, which is the prequel
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  Speaker 4: annex version of the entire Lord of the Rings universe. Weird.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like the things that you don't like about Lord
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  Speaker 2: of the Rings made you go so much deeper than
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  Speaker 2: you know, more for you to hate.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we talk about the difference between like sky
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  Speaker 3: Dance and Paramount because it's like one owns the Star
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  Speaker 3: Trek TV series and the others own the Star Trek
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  Speaker 3: film series, so like they're different, you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, don't maybe do it?
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  Speaker 3: I guess it's you know, a similar similar situation.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean Prime, I've got that already, right. They
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  Speaker 2: have debuted Spider Noir with with Nicholas Cage, and they
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  Speaker 2: can't call it spider Man Noir because Spider Man as
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  Speaker 2: a name belongs to Sony. But for some reason they're
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  Speaker 2: able to make a Spider Man series about a different character.
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  Speaker 3: I actually don't think his name is even spider Man Noir.
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  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure my action figure is called Spider Noir. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: to look that up.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, as far as it's if you were
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  Speaker 2: Prime and you had free reign to call it what
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  Speaker 2: you wanted to get eyes on that you would call
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  Speaker 2: it Spider Man Noir. You know what I mean to
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  Speaker 2: get people in and I mean even that right, like
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  Speaker 2: fuck me. I put out a tweet the other day
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  Speaker 2: because I had just seen Masters of the Universe, and
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  Speaker 2: I said, like that that is a property that I
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  Speaker 2: never watched, or that I never remember watching I was born.
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  Speaker 3: My friends, it does say Spider Man Noir is my figure.
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  Speaker 2: You've got to stop putting that at start of every sentence,
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  Speaker 2: like we'll get to it eventually.
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  Speaker 3: How I spent my weekend? Love you too, Dad, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's so bad. You'd be surprised how many happy accidents.
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  Speaker 2: Well, pizza guy. Okay, sure it wasn't. I wasn't planning
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  Speaker 2: on this, but okay.
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  Speaker 6: But I thought, like, that's a property that is is
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  Speaker 6: a lot to look at as someone who doesn't know
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  Speaker 6: that franchise, and I'm someone that doesn't know I know
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  Speaker 6: of it.
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  Speaker 2: I know that there's a guy called he Man. I
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  Speaker 2: know roughly what he looks like.
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  Speaker 3: You kind of there's Battlecat, there is skeletor did you
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  Speaker 3: see the trailer it says he him.
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  Speaker 2: It's very trick. I know it's actually for.
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  Speaker 3: Three of us to go and see it so we
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  Speaker 3: can see Brandon's head.
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  Speaker 2: I know it's so brilliant, Like they spend all this
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: time trying to convince you that they're taking the piss
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  Speaker 2: out of things, and then they just lovingly like own
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  Speaker 2: what it was. And that wasn't like Amazon didn't originate
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  Speaker 2: that film. That was already something that was happening. They've
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  Speaker 2: come in and to buy the rights and distribution and
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  Speaker 2: all that and put two hundred million dollars into it,
• 10:30
  Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy two hundred million dollars reported. But like,
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  Speaker 2: that's something that had to have an established fan base
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  Speaker 2: from forty something years ago, and those people were interested
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  Speaker 2: in going there. But like I thought, well, I'm barely
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: going to go a lot. I'm only going to go
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  Speaker 2: on because I love going to the movies and this
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: looks like a big screen movie. But other than that,
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  Speaker 2: I would have probably been happy to leave it. And
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  Speaker 2: yet that franchise is something Amazon went, Yes, that's something
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  Speaker 2: we need and want. I was wondering whether it was
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  Speaker 2: an interesting coincidence that the week Masters of the Universe
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  Speaker 2: was coming out and it is TV and it's movie
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  Speaker 2: and there would be different executives and stuff. It's not
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  Speaker 2: just all like Amazon making. Amazon is an entity making
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  Speaker 2: a decision. But the week that this movie was coming
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  Speaker 2: out and it was projected to maybe be a concern
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: at the box office, and then since it's come out,
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  Speaker 2: like a day after it come out, they were already
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  Speaker 2: labeling it as a bomb that they've went, hang on,
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  Speaker 2: We've put all this money into this established franchise that's
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: been around for forty five years, and maybe only the
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  Speaker 2: people that liked it back then, and less of them
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  Speaker 2: because some people think we've gone woke with it are
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  Speaker 2: going to go watch it and nobody else. What else
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  Speaker 2: we got going on? Oh shit, Stargate? What the fuck
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  Speaker 2: is that? Only the people that liked it back then,
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  Speaker 2: the people that are still hanging on, are going to
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  Speaker 2: watch it. We can't take the risks.
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  Speaker 4: Seventy million watches worldwide Stargate SG one. Wow, that was
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  Speaker 4: back then, So whatever whatever it is now, it would
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  Speaker 4: be ten times that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, crazy, And like you know, I when I
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  Speaker 2: remember sitting there having to explain it to my kid
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  Speaker 2: one day we were driving in to do an episode
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  Speaker 2: a year or two ago, and they said, you know,
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  Speaker 2: what's what's the difference between because they'd watched some Star Wars,
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: but they said, what's the difference between Stargate and like
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  Speaker 2: Star Trek, And I'm like, well, yeah, you know, Star
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  Speaker 2: Wars is all aliens, different galaxy and stuff. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: Star Trek is like us, but in the future and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And there's a lot of stuff going on where a
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  Speaker 2: Stargate was at the time. It was set in the now,
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  Speaker 2: and it's people dealing with all these discoveries and trying
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  Speaker 2: to like catch up with the rest of the galaxy
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  Speaker 2: and all these wars that are going on and all
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  Speaker 2: these things that they've got to find and technologies that
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  Speaker 2: they come along. In a way, it feels like the
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  Speaker 2: easiest one. If you're not a sci fi person, it's
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  Speaker 2: almost the easiest one to jump on board, because if
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  Speaker 2: you're going to go to Star Wars, it's like, all right,
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: I go to Walking Fish and then this guy can
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: lift things with his mind and he's got a laser stick.
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: Oh Jesus Christ, Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Is that tin can swearing at me?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: And then and then Star Trek is not quite that,
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  Speaker 2: but there are aliens involved. It's set in the future,
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  Speaker 2: and there's all kinds of you know, there's time travel
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: stuff going on where a Stargate it's about humans opening
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  Speaker 2: up their MacBook or their Dell computer and dial into
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  Speaker 2: this ancient ring that opens up a wormhole to another
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  Speaker 2: fucking planet and.
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  Speaker 3: Ending up to the battery on your jeep.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it almost feels like it should be the easiest
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  Speaker 2: one to jump onto when it's already been. Like Brendan's
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  Speaker 2: of those sort of numbers and ask do these people
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  Speaker 2: not understand sci fi fans like how much we live
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  Speaker 2: and breathe. We've got people that write in and say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: I've listened to your podcast seven times, and we're like, wow, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: this year, yeah, you know, And I rewatched the entire
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: ten series of SG one five Atlanta's two Universe. I
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  Speaker 2: watched that. I watched that twice a year. I will
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  Speaker 2: do an entire risk Stargate franchise rewatch twice a year. Now.
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  Speaker 2: They might be the outliers, but they're sci fi fans
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  Speaker 2: who will just sit there and just happily rewatch the
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  Speaker 2: same shit over and over again because we love it.
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  Speaker 2: And then it's absolutely got the fucking potential to bring
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  Speaker 2: on new viewers.
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  Speaker 3: I just I was, I was saying to Brendan before
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  Speaker 3: you got here, like by having a built in fan base.
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  Speaker 3: You've got free marketing. We're going to market the show
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  Speaker 3: show for you. We're going to bring in the people
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  Speaker 3: in our lives, like Brendan's had Jack watching it, your
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: kids and even your wife's been interested in watching Gate
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: and stuff like that. And it's like, I likened it
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  Speaker 3: to Game of Thrones. I didn't get into Game of
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: Thrones until season three, and it's only because nobody in
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  Speaker 3: my life would shut up about it, everybody at home
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: at work, like everyone was like, you have to watch
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  Speaker 3: this show. You have to watch this show, all right,
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  Speaker 3: And then I watched it and I was hooked, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And it so it's like by having a.
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  Speaker 4: Brother's sisters, what don't you tell me?
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  Speaker 3: Fuck my ass brothers corny midgets. So yeah, it's crazy
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  Speaker 3: to think that, Yeah, oh, it's it's only gonna appeal
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  Speaker 3: to existing fan base. Then why why build something that
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  Speaker 3: has an ip Like why try and make something.
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  Speaker 4: New so that means you're never going to touch it?
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: Then yeah, yeah exactly unless you just like you want
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: to reboot it.
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah why yeah?
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: So so it's like you could play the game on
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: easy by making a thing that's going to be successful
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: to millions of fans around the world, or you can
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: play the game on hard and start from scratch with
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: zero fans and then use a name that means something
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: to people who are then going to get up in
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: arms when it doesn't appeal to them because you've intentionally
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: tried to not make it appeal to existing fans, like
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: it make it make sense like that doesn't.
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: Stargate SG one producer Joe melots he's come out on
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: Twitter and has ever spoken about Variety that the Variety interview,
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: he says, Nope, Sorry, I'm going to have to push
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: back on this. We were ever mindful of creating a
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: show that would have broad appeal, and of course they
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: would be like, it's been so long since we've had Stargate.
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: Even Stargate Universe had its own fandom. Really yeah, and
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: it was kind of different to SG one and SGA.
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: Jacob that was his favorite talking about that. The universe
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: was his favorite.
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: Elle that was that was the first Stargate show she
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: watched that got her into Stargate was Universe.
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: And you can watch that show and we've been reviewing
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: it recently. You can watch it without seeing the other two,
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: and if you have seen the other two it just
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: kind of adds to it. Yeah, and I think that's
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: what they're aiming at.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: I think Universe is even a great inroad now in
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty six, it's a much more it feels more
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: modern and more edgy and older than the other shows.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: So it's like someone now who's never seen Stargate, I think,
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: could watch Universe be interested, and then that would then
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: get them into watching the older shows. It's like me, like,
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: you know me, I'm an absolute star trek cuck, but
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: I can't sit down and watch an episode of the
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: original series because I'm like, oh my god, this is
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: just so slowly.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean?
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: Like I've even sat here and watched it at like
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: one point five speed and I still can't get through it,
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But more power to the
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: people that love it. But it's just like, there's there's
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: certain ones that I grew up on that I love,
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: and Stargate's going to be the same.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: I guess if we're talking about old shows as well,
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: I grew up on watching the nineteen sixties Batman and
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: a lot of people just shit on that because that's
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: so lame. But they don't realize it's meant to be
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: a comedy, yeah, because.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: A lot of it's a man who dresses up as
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: a bat.
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: So yeah, it was and you look at it the
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: era that it came out, it was you know, you
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: get smarts. Yeah yeah, although sign of kind of comedies.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: It's supposed to be lighthearted and fun.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but people shit on it because they don't
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: understand it, and that's fine. Yeah. Speaking of shitting on
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: things though, talk about this bit.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Joe Malozzi has been absolutely he's absolutely just Baron Destructo
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: has absolutely destroyed Polygon here. Polygon on Twitter posted an
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: article and it says prime video canceling the Stargate reboot
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: protects a cult classic from a potential disaster, is what
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: they posted, Brace your selves. Baron goes in, well, this
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: is a hastily cobble together shit take of conjecture and misdirection.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: The author sell is a writer. You're already yeah, He's like.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: This is this is my hypothesis. I'm now going to
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: prove to you why you're a piece of shit. The
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: author starts by misreading a grassroots marketing launch as a
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: statement of exclusive intent. Come on announcing a series to
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: a fandom alongside its community leaders is standard pr It's
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: not proof that the show was designed exclusively for fandom.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: In fact, it was made clear from the start that
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: first and foremost, the series would function as an accessible
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: entry point for new viewers while still respecting canon. And
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: by the way, respecting canon does not mean requiring new
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: viewers to be familiar with three hundred and fifty plus
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: hours of existing Stargate programming, as this article implies. The
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: author proceeds to support their point by launching into fan fiction.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: No plot details were revealed about the scrapped show, but
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: I can easily imagine, and they certainly do what follows
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: as a parade of cliches, a generic lacker, and you
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: know how O'Neil feels about cliches. I added that bit
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: a generic legacy sequel checklist that the author has conjured
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: up from nothing and pinned to the new show as
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: predictive evidence. Then comes the claim that Starfleet Academy Baron
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: brought it up, Joe brought it up. I didn't bring
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: it up.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Will allow it.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Then comes the claim that Starfleet Academy failed because the
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: show runners focused too much on paying tribute to the
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: series past. Uh what, yes, stuffider, I.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: Think they did it. Actually, I haven't seen an academy.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Starfleet Academy did receive a fair amount of criticism, but
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: strict adherence to cannon wasn't on the list of grievances.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: This reads like a comment from someone who likely never
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: even watched the show, much less perused the fan response.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: They state rebooting the canon also would let the new
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Stargate show runner bring back the Gua Wul, the franchise's
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: and most iconic villains. No, it wouldn't know why because
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: the go ould Ah canon. The article concludes with a
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: disconnected meditation on an old Stargate storyline with no relation
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: to either the new show or the author's own argument.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: I want to say it was written by Ai, but
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: surely AI would display more logical consistency than this. Mike drops,
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: well done, Joe.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: That's nice. I like that. Yeah.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want to You don't want to get
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: a writer of Joe Malotzi's stature on your bad side
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: on Twitter because he's going to school you like that?
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Like I saw him school someone off the back of
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: like he wrote something onto I think it was today
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: as we record and some Blake just put it out
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: there and with all the Stargate chatter going on and said,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: I never watched or I never made it true. I
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: don't know. I mean understandably, I never watched Stargate Origins,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Like should I? Or is it not worth it? And
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: then I don't know that He was like anyone of
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: note for Joe to follow, because he's someone he worked
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: with in the industry. He just wrote back, never watched it.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: And then someone went back to that and said, oh, okay,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: this guy, you've got to support the franchise. Also, this guy,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: you don't go and watch Stagger And he goes, what
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: do you That's not the same thing, And then a
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: guy further elaborated and he said, all right, Starget Origins
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: was made. It's not canon, and it was made by
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: people who had never worked on the show in any way,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: shape or form. It's got nothing to do with anything.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: And if I was going to tell you to get
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: behind Origins because that would help support the new Amazon show,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: we may as well tell you to go and watch
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: the fucking animated show as well. He's like, I'm not
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: going to do that. So like he's actually aloud in
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Pragg going, Yeah, I'm going to tell you to watch
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: the real things, the right things, but I'm not just
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: going to sit here and go If it's got Stark
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: as a sticker, then you should just watch it because
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: it will mean something like he's putting the passions in
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: the in the in the right areas. I've loved that
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: over the last week, Like how many of the creatives
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: and also the actors and actresses that have gotten behind it.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: You know, Oh God, I love Michael Shanks.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah wow, could we grab that little audio bit there?
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: That's the feel like, that's something Brennan's haven't said in
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: nine years.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: I've always said a lot, I mean, a little shit
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: on him. Yeah, but I feel like the reason he
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: knows he's stuffed up to the part of admitted that,
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: the part of him that we've shot on is what
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: makes him the person that we love at the moment.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: You know, don't don't kiss Shanks. How good is he?
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: He's just the right level of petty. Yeah, just Daniel Jackson. Yeah,
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: just tickles because my brain in a delightful way. He's
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: not one of those uh what what Michelle Bummy say?
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: When they go low we go high? Shakesa's not like that.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: He's happy to get down in the dirt.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, when they go low, we stabb you from behind.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: When they go low, we ankle tap you from behind.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: You down.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: So initial thoughts, I imagine you guys, but for me
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: it was well, went through the whole stages of grief,
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: really disbelief. I'm like, no way, why would they do that?
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: While would they cancel the show? And then you know,
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: kind of anger, and quickly came to realization that yeah,
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: well I shouldn't have got my hopes up. That's how
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: I felt, really, And then I felt sorry for Guero
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: and the team because how if I put myself in
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: their shoes that they don't need to feel this way,
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: But you would be ashamed, guilty, embarrassed, like you would
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: feel all of those things.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Like post announcement type, like.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: The way, yeah they announced it, you know, yeah, they
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: came to the fans and announced it, and then they're
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: going through it there in London. They've written there were
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: there like two months in the writer's room. They've hired
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: special effects people, they've hired spaces to shoot, like yeah,
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: they're looking for locations, looking for actors, and then this
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: comes out and they have signed NDAs, so they can't
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: speak about it or into any detail. But yeah, I
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: just feel so bad for those guys.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Still has overall deal with Amazon at the moment, doesn't
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: he Yeah, he does.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and they've all the guys have signed an NDA.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: You weren't here Joe speaking about like what was in
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: the show or anything like that.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Or which is a shame. Maybe one day down down
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: the line, once the NDA is laps and stuff, we
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: might get some info or something like that. But yeah, yeah,
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: I was in a weird place with it because and
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: I said this to Mitch maybe likelast week, I was
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: just like ever since Batgirl, I've I've kind of shut
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: myself off from until until the product is ready and
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: is being presented to me. I kind of don't think
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: about it. I don't wonder what it's going to be.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: I don't, you know, I try to stay away from
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: all all that kind of stuff because ship like this
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: happens and it's you know, I was already annoyed when
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: you know, we got our assholes tickled by by Brad
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Right a few years ago saying he had a treatment
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: but he didn't have any connections at Amazon so the
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: fact that this time around, it seemed like everything was
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: being like they'd consulted with Brad, Joe was on board,
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: Amazon took that's right, that was that's right, that was
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: the MGM. That's right. So like all the right steps
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: were there. We had ogs in there that were involved,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: that were that that cherished the IP and also we're
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: instrumental in creating it and running it, you know. So
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: it's a weird thing for me because it's like, obviously, yeah,
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: I want to you know, we we've been sharing the
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: safe stargate and all that kind of stuff as well,
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: and it's like, because it's like, this is this is
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: as close as we've gotten to what the fans want,
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: you know, when we look at what we got with
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Origins compared to now where we've got all these heavyweights
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: that are on board. You know, Brad gave his blessing,
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: even that he wasn't you know, as actively involved. What
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: more could we ask for? So yeah, it was it
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: was a real kind of just Yeah, it was a
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: gut punch, and.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: I understand people's eye towards it that you'd be cranky
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: about it, that you're going to boycott, you're going to
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: scream and shout and yell and do all this stuff.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: But I think there's more pragmatic ways to go about it.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: So I just emailed Darren from GateWorld a few weeks
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: whenever it was, whenever the announcement was, and just said, look,
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: I know this probably is a long shot, but is
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: there like a specific petition that you guys are going
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: to run or back and so we can just get
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: behind as a united front.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, rather than having ten different petitions yeah with no points.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: A man with five thousand might as well have one
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: with fifty hours. Yeah, let's all let's all join together.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And so Dan wrote back and said that they
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: were going to have a live stream with dal the
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: Gate and Jenny Stive and from Cleo Consulting. I don't
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: know much about Jenny, but I know that she's in
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: the industry. Yeah, massive Stargate fan, and she's been She's
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: spoken to these guys many times. I saw some clips.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: She really knows her stuff. She was so impressive.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: So in case you haven't seen the stream, I just
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: want to play this bar.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: I haven't, and I keep seeing so many different fans
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: or either like Stargate sort of you know, websites, podcasts,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: YouTube shows or whatever, and never went You've got to
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: watch it. God, she's amazing and I've never heard of
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: her either. But I'm like, and then again, I'm waiting
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: to find out that she'd worked on one of the projects.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: At one point it's like, no, she's just in this
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: consultancy thing, and I'm like, okay, what what is the
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: big draw? Then like, how good is this clip? So
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: this will be a live reaction for me? This would
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: be good.
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: Petitions work, and they work with studios dependent upon how
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: fractured or not fractured they are. So I'm going to
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: repeat what I said on Twitter. I wish that I
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: could be the person to coordinate this and pull this together.
• 27:10
  Speaker 8: I can't.
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: There needs to be if it's the two of you,
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: there needs to be one global petition. So the four
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: that have started needs to communicate with each other, get together.
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: Pride needs to be put aside. If you were the
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: first one or the one with the most signatures, that's
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: I got to be honest, that's just not important. It's
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: important is that there's one global petition. The second thing
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: that's incredibly important is writing letters, whether it's emails or
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: physical letters and addressing these specific execs who were making
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: these decisions is crucial. However, you need to go above
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: their head. So you need to be addressing this to
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: Peter Freelander. Whatever you're doing, He's the decision maker. He's
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: the one. Mike Hopkins is his boss at Amazon Creative Studios,
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: but Mike would defer to his division chiefs. Peter Freedlander
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: is the decision maker.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: Because Michael Shanks was sending out a post, well.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: It sounds like it's time to Golair's head.
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: I'm saying, go over Blair's head. Michael's not wrong at all.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: But.
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: You got to go over his head and it's got
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: to be done smart. So that again, David and Darren,
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: to both of your points, this can't be I hate Amazon.
• 28:13
  Speaker 8: Or you know, you guys suck. I mean, trust me.
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: I wish I could write that, but that is not
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: going to make any kind of impact. This has to
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: be an argument that disproves not only the Marcom corporate communications,
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: which was that it was only going to appeal to
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: the fan base, but that it also disproves the fact
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: that this was going to have a limited expanded audience.
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: You need to disprove those two facts. And that's very
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: easily done in your petitions, in the letters, in the
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: phone calls, whatever you want to do, any of the online,
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: all four of those work. Because imagine if you're Peter
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: Friedlander and you're getting bombarded by your social media team,
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: which he has one in his division, saying, oh my god,
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: I mean again, it just grew by another five thousand
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: people online. Then you have a petition that's being called out,
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: Then you're getting phone calls, then you're getting emails, and
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: that I mean, there's a certain point at which the
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: exec just says, Okay, enough, I've got.
• 29:02
  Speaker 8: To figure out what's going on.
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: It is worth it for that reason, and it has
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: to be in a way where he doesn't because if
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: I'm that exact and I'm being bombarded and the biggest
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: number that I'm being bombarded by is approximately ten thousand,
• 29:16
  Speaker 7: it's the same ten thousand over and over again, and
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: they're just saying all I'm hearing is this is wrong.
• 29:21
  Speaker 8: I hate Amazon. That's not going to convince me.
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: That's in fact, that's just going to make me say, yeah,
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: that's why I made this decision. You guys were it.
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: That's great, and I appreciate your passion, but it doesn't
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: change my mind. We have to change the perception. What
• 29:33
  Speaker 7: I'm going to try to find out is what consumer
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: insights led them to believe that this was not going
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: to appeal beyond the.
• 29:39
  Speaker 8: Core fan base.
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: So I'm going to try to find out from the
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: industry side, what were the what was the research that
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: was presented, because I guarantee you there was doubta that
• 29:49
  Speaker 7: was presented, so there has to be a discounted argument
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: of why that's not true. The other part of it
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: is that we need to get other creatives to back
• 30:01
  Speaker 7: up Martin. So we need to have others who trust Martin,
• 30:06
  Speaker 7: not just Joe and Brad.
• 30:06
  Speaker 8: I mean, as great as they are.
• 30:08
  Speaker 7: Unfortunately, that just proves the point again you need execs
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: from other shows, Like if I could get Eric Krippy
• 30:14
  Speaker 7: to come to Martin's defense.
• 30:16
  Speaker 8: That makes a difference because is he going to bring
• 30:18
  Speaker 8: his boys audience to us?
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: So more exactly so, you want anybody that you guys
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: know that are ign dennev Geek Press. So this is
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: the last step when you can get Press to go
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: interview like minded creatives in the sci fi space to
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: say I would have watched this show that makes a difference.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: That was well said.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: Well, that was really good. That was the best part
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: that I found out of that whole stream. And so
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: I got onto Darren, and Darren organized a group of
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: people who'd already contacted him and said, look, we're going
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: to do a teams meeting. So we Mitch and I
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: got up early four am on Wednesday. I was busy
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: that he was a slate.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: Sorry.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: Look, there was a bunch of people on there.
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: E m G.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: There's a bunch of guys from Stargate Fusion from France.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: There was popcast.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Guys in Germany, like it was global man.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Europeans takes Stargate very seriously. They do not fuck around.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: When I was in Checks, Stargate SG one was on
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: dubbed in check. I'm like, this is awesome.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: That don't funk around. But where's the safety word? For Brendan.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: Carter speaks check, It's like second stop.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: It just just just look it online for a little
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: short blonde bust driver wigs.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Bandana shows up, confused dresses and allus.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: It's like, where that's fine, that's fine by me.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: Let me introduce you to my first one.
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: So for all, the meeting was quite amicable. We spoke
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: about which petition we would follow, we spoke about which
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: hashtag we would encourage people to use, and there was
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: also a website sick so because there's a couple, so
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: there was like save the Gate, bring back Stargate dot com.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: But the one that we are going to follow is
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: save Stargate dot com. Savestargate dot com. And the hashtag
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: is hashtag save Stargate. Nice and simple, so we're keeping
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: it as simple as we can. Those two things. The
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: other thing is there was one of the guys, James,
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: James Kafootz. He's got to go fundme and it's already
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: reached the initial goal. But he's going to fly a
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: save Stargate banner over Amazon MGM Studios in California. Nice.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: So he's already got that. And so there's a discussion
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: about maybe we could have a marching band playing Stargate SG.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Want I like only of the maleing. I remember malings
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: being a big thing back in like before the Internet
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: and stuff like that. I think when when people tried
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: to save Star Trek the original series, there was a
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: male in when fas Escape, you know, there was a
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: lot of melions of those kinds of things.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: So yeah, so that and then that's a part of
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: it too. Is so if you send in physical mail,
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: send it to Peter Friedlander from Amazon. Yeah he is
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: Blair's boss.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what what should we get? People said it should
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: be like an empty Fifth Avenue bar wrapper. Well what
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: that way written on it or something.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: The one that people are sending is an empty box
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: of tissues, saying send more. That's good, that's good. I
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: like that.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Just bunt piles of or empty tissue box or an
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: empty an empty foot loops box.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, send more could be good. Or just wacko jacko. Yeah,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: yellow melts by the time again.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Just little packets of dry blue jello, like before it's
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: even been made, just a little packet.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: So anything you can do, email him, email their their
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: customer service, Amazon MGM's customer service. Just be bombarding them
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: and on I mean we've been on it in the
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: last couple of days on Twitter and it's trending. I
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: think it was number eight in the world hashtag save stargate.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: Here's here's an inside knowledge way for anyone who lives
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: in LA which is obviously you know the Epicenter. Any
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Stargate fans in LA, take a drive down to Long
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Beach hit Up, hit up our LA correspondent Jacob down
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: at Long Beach University. There is a sports fell I
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: think I said you guys are photo the first time
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: I went there. It's like their sporting auditorium. It's a
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: giant pyramid called the Walter Pyramid. No way, it's the
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: Walter Pyramid. Go get a photo in front of that
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: and send it to Peter.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: Peter Friedlander. Yeah, that is Peter Friedlander. P E T
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: e R for Peter not spelled with. I mean people
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: spell thick. It's weird these days. F R I ed
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: l A n d e R.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: And if it's all, if we're all sort of working
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: towards the same goal, maybe they'll see that.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: So the headquarters are in Culver City, California. Yeah.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: And to those people, I guess that are their first
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: response is to like resist and boycott and like, oh,
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to watch Prime or I'm not going
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: to that's almost, in a way the opposite of what
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: we what we want you to do. If anything, if
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: you've got a streaming service that shows Stargate, watch it
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: more instead of pulling out your DVDs and you know
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: us where a physical medium podcast. If if the numbers
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: on these on Stargate go up, whether it's here in Australia,
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: you can watch it on Netflix as well at not
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Atlanta or Universe on the SG one at the moment.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: But if the numbers on that go up, maybe Netflix
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: will be like, well maybe we could throw somebody.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Netflix, would we even just how much would they love
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: to be able to advertise that a property that belongs
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: to somebody else as far as how much what they
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: can create from it? Was doing numbers on their service.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Whilst telling you guys before we turned the MIC's on.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: They did that with Star Trek Prodigy, the animated series
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: with Kate Moulgrew. First series was on Paramount Plus. Second series,
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: they weren't even going to show it, like they just
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: it's just it's just the way it's been, it's finished.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: We're not even going to shot. Netflix went we'll buy it.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: They put it on Netflix and that was the only
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: way to watch season two of Prodigy. And again and
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: again that was from a fan campaign as well of
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: people going save Prodigy, we want, we want to see
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: we want to see Prodigy.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: I was just going to say, Yeah, I had that
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: sentiment on the group call with GateWorld and I just said, look,
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: they were talking about the boycott and I said, I
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: think I'm going to encourage because people aren't going to
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: My sentiment was you have Prime for a reason. You
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: have Prime because you use Amazon, you get deliveries, you
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: get cheaper products, you get the next day delivery for free, whatever.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: So you're not going to cancel that just because of
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: a TV set show. So if you do have if
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: you want a boycott, that's fine, boycott and cancer your subscription. Yeah,
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: But if you.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: Don't want to do that, stream the ship out of
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: SG one, Yeah, because if those numbers, if those numbers
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: go up, then you know, those execs they can't ignore
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: that if they see an uptick in numbers of this
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: of this franchise, that they didn't just canceled. Yeah, because
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: guess what. Guess who's watching that show? Not new fans,
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: the existing fans us that weren't good enough to allow
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: this show to go forward where we're showing what we
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: want and if and if the numbers on the OG
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: shows go up, then that shows to them that there's
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: so many of us that we cannot be denied.
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: And it's and it is fun on social media because
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: especially on x Twitter you go on there, every single
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: post that Amazon MGM have posted, it's just filtered with
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: littered with Stargate.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: What was the stupid like they they were asking for
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: with that one? Was that one about if it was
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: at the end of the day in one TV universe,
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: which one would it be?
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: If he could summer?
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: I'll find it like three days after the announcement, Like,
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: come on, guys, I wonder if that was like an
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: intern that runs the socials that was in a Stargate fan. Yeah,
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: it was like I'm just gonna just gonna see what
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: what pops up here.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: That's what someone wrote. But hopefully it's an intern that
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: likes us.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Sorry, Blair, I had no idea what I was doing.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: I didn't put those two things together.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: I just wanted some engagements. Yeah, if you could spend
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: summer in any TV show universe, where would you go?
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: And there's five thousand replies and I want to say
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: they're all They're all Stargate.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: Cheyenne Mountain.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, So you know, if you want to do
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: your beat, you can go to savestargate dot com. You
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: can get on the socials hashtag save Stargate. If you
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: want to.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Post it on our Instagram, We've done a post there.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: If you check out our linktre to Graham, it'll take
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: you straight to the petition.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: To sign a petition. That's another thing that they were
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: talking about in the meeting is like one hundred thousand
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: is probably not going to cut it. It needs to
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: get to like half a million, yeah, to do anything.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: So if you like stargate, you know people that like stargate,
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: send them the petition, get them to sign it. Get
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: into Gates signed it. I've signed it.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Have you guys signed?
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: And Jenny said it like we've got We've got Lincoln.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: He's got a couple hundred thousand followers we need to get.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: We need to get him to start posting some stuff
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: about it. We need to get him to lift his weight.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: And nah, I want need to get a job on
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: the show.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, we wanted we all wanted to get a
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: job on the show. He wants to get a job
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: on the show. Yeah. So yeah, he's got a built
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: in audience there.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, whether it's a Lincoln thing or not.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: We just need to get hard at it because you know,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: like I'm sure there are other people you know in
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Australia that obviously talking about Stargate, but like we've been
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: doing it now for nearly ten years. I think we
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: do a pretty good job. We're very passionate fans. We've
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: go to a great listener base, and you know, I
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: occasionally do some stuff in the media, so does Lincoln,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, just get just get us one of
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: those interviews where we go and pop on a morning
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: show and it's like, what do you hang on? Hang on?
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: You like Lincoln, It's like, what are you behind? You
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: know this thing on?
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: Lincoln also does the concircuit, you know, he does the
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: super and Ova Like we get him a.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Save Stargate T shirt.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: But also one of his favorite things is when get
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: into Gate listeners come and talk to him. Yeah he
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: loves Stargate.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: When yeah, he'll he'll do his little Q and A
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: sessions and someone to come and ask him what's your
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: favorite sci fi series? And he goes, come here, you know,
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: and he'll say and he'll and then other people pop
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: up and say what's your favorite Target episode? And he goes,
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: I like you you come over so but yeah, obviously
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: he and because he does the concircuit that Stargate actors
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: and stuff do as well, like you know, so yeah,
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: we should definitely see what we can see what we
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: can do from that aspect as well.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, like nothing's too small, like the idea
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: of that tweet that went out and let you say
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: this five thousand and almost all, if not all of
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: it is Stargate. And if you're sitting in there going, well,
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: what's one comment going to do, it's no at the
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: especially for Prime Amazon Prime Studios, the official account.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: Oh, they would never have had this much traction on
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: their Twitter.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that person every week, Like I've worked in
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: one radio station that's in one like the third biggest
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: city in Australia, you know, like it's it's like when
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: nothing compared to this sort of global business that is
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Amazon or even the entertainment division, and I would still
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: have to do reports every week, or I would have
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: to listen to reports every week or every month, where
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: you would have the digital guy who it's like, tell
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: us what our socials are doing, where are the people
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: coming at, what are they talking about? And if that
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: person has the thing go. Yeah, we've got a five
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: thousand percent increase, and all of it.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: Is stargate, you know, like I just gone back a month,
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: and then like the last couple of weeks it's around
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: two hundred comments, So five thousand comments for them is
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: out gradus. Yeah, and then going back even further, it's
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: like thirty twenty three, Like they don't get comments on
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: this ende.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: If you think one person can't make a difference, then
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: you've obviously never watched bugs life and you've forgotten. You've
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: forgotten what Hopper said. There was that ant that stood
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: up to me.
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but we can forget about him.
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was just one an. You're right, it's just
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: one ant. Yeah, boys, their.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: Puny, puny say, let's pretend this grain is.
• 42:31
  Speaker 8: A puny little ant. Didn't that hurt?
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: Nope about this one?
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Are you kidding? How about this?
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: Do you let one ant stand up to us, then
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: they all might stand up.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Those puny little ants outnumber us one hundred to one.
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: And if they ever figure that out, there goes our
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: way of life.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: It's not about food, it's about keeping those ants in line.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: That's why we're going back.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Does anybody else want to stay.
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: That's great. These ants are gonna stand up, motherfucker, absolutely
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: and they have been. It's it's such a pleasure to
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: be part of this community. And I don't like that
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: word to be used because it gets tossed around too much,
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: but it genuinely does generally does feel like that, especially
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: online when you just you know, you get to see
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: the same people and you start following each other, you
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: start talking about it, and then the posts aren't just
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: gifts after a certain point, it's like, oh, remember this
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: episode of this and just hashtags.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: Talking about a Like it's it's fine for us all
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: to disagree on what our favorite episode is, who our
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: favorite character is, what our favorite series is, but at
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: the end of the day, we're all fans of the
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: same franchise.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean, And like, you know,
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: I've spoken about it before as far as like how
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: fandoms go with you know, Star Wars. Star Wars fans
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: hate each other because you either like the good ones
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: or you don't like the good ones, and you can't
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: like that if you like that one, you have no
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: integrity in your opinion or something. You Yeah, Star Trek
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: fans hate each other, you know, whereas Stargate mate.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: If you like, if you find out someone like Stargate,
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: you're like, we're friends.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like we should best friends.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah literally is like that.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so get amongst your guys and amongst it.
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: Get involved if you can. If you can't, then that's
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: okay too. But I mean, yeah, do whatever little part
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: you can just stream, just watch SG one if you
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: want to watch it exactly want to do anything. I
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: think that's exactly what I want to start doing. It's
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: just having it run in the background. Did I already
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: mention that? The guy in the meeting said, oh, if
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: you put it on the browser, it just runs through
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: the whole series. Nice.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: Well on Netflix.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: My work Wi fi is going to love that.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: On Netflix. It'll it'll just run it. Have that you know,
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: are you still watching and you like, don't remind me
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: it just it'll go.
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So anyway, guys, thank you very much for listening,
• 45:09
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