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La Lechuza & the Ishkitini - Shapeshifting Owl Witches with John Vandeventer · The Cryptid Huntress

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  Speaker 1: to our show today, y'all. Oh my gosh, we are
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  Speaker 1: going to be talking about the ol witch today and
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  Speaker 1: I had the most odd thing that happened to me
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  Speaker 1: this morning. We're gonna talk about this as soon as
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  Speaker 1: He's one of my favorite people. Okay, And I might
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  Speaker 1: have seen an owl this morning. Okay, We're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: talking about the owl witch Lala choose a Okay, and
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  Speaker 1: we're also gonna be talking about the Ishkatini. And it's
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  Speaker 1: so weird that I just saw an owl this morning.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna we're really gonna get into that today. If
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  Speaker 1: Let's get to our show today, shall we. Okay, because
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  Speaker 1: on this episode we've got John here, We're going to
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  Speaker 1: be talking about Lala Choose, the witch owl of Mexican
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  Speaker 1: and Southwestern folklore, and the Ishkatini, the horned owl of
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  Speaker 1: Native American legends believe to prowl around at night, stalking
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  Speaker 1: and unaliving men and animals. The Ishkatini is actually believed
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  Speaker 1: to be a skinwalker. So we're going to be talking
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  Speaker 1: about different accounts and encounters with owls in the woods.
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  Speaker 1: I have had several of personal encounters with owls in
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  Speaker 1: the woods that just did not seem right, They did
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  Speaker 1: not fit. You know, some people think that owls could
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  Speaker 1: be aliens as well too, like screen memory. So we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna get into that today. And I have a really
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  Speaker 1: interesting picture that we're gonna look at today. Taken is
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  Speaker 1: a still shot out of a video from a woman
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  Speaker 1: who was camping in the deep woods and her noises
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  Speaker 1: outside her tent. Scanned the area with her phone, forgot
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  Speaker 1: about it. Looked at the video the next morning, and
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  Speaker 1: there seemed to be a strange creature in the tree
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  Speaker 1: right beside her tent. It's unnerving, it is terrifying, and
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna go get into that today as well, So
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  Speaker 1: y'all get ready. John ven Deventer is originally from Plano, Texas.
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  Speaker 1: He's a sixteen year veteran of the United States Air
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  Speaker 1: Force with the lifelong love of military av history and
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  Speaker 1: his interest in UFO's has always made him an avid reader.
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  Speaker 1: He's the author of the Relics series, first published back
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  Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen. He's also the author of the Shadow
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  Speaker 1: Chasers series and most recently, the Nepaul series. And John
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  Speaker 1: was just my very first guest slash co host here
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  Speaker 1: on my Monday show, and he's back today. He has
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  Speaker 1: a book titled Shadow Chasers Curse of the Ishkatini and
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  Speaker 1: I have, Oh my gosh, this is the best little book.
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  Speaker 1: It's a youth book. My son enjoys it. I love it,
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  Speaker 1: and so I thought, who better to bring on today
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  Speaker 1: than talk about these awl witches and the Ishkatini than
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  Speaker 1: my good friend John Benivicer. You guys please help me.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the show today, John.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, good at Jane. Glad to be back.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, thank you for being here. Oh my gosh, it's
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  Speaker 1: so great to see you John. Now, I did elude
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  Speaker 1: in the beginning that I had had a strange encounter
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  Speaker 1: with an owl this morning. I was driving bent my
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  Speaker 1: son to school, and as we turned onto the highway, uh,
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  Speaker 1: right before we turned onto the highway, actually, as we
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  Speaker 1: were about to turn, this gigantic bird swooped across the
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  Speaker 1: road and it landed in the tree next to our truck.
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  Speaker 1: And I looked, and at first I thought it was
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  Speaker 1: a hawk, but it was actually an owl, a gigantic owl.
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  Speaker 1: And I had not seen an owl before on the
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  Speaker 1: way to school like that, and not in a while.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I have a long time ago. But it was
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  Speaker 1: just odd that the timing of that today. What do
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  Speaker 1: you think about that?
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  Speaker 2: Perfect timing couldn't answer for better timing?
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  Speaker 1: I know, right, It's it's just it's just odd and uh.
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  Speaker 1: And I think he and I were both so shocked
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  Speaker 1: by it because of the subject that we're going to
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  Speaker 1: be talking about on the show today. We didn't really
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  Speaker 1: say a whole lot. The rest of that ride to school,
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  Speaker 1: I was trying to process what just happened.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, a.
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  Speaker 3: Couple of months after moved here to ohne Bi, Oklahoma,
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  Speaker 3: from Texas, Monica, my wife had gone to Old pass
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  Speaker 3: Or to visit her mother and I had to work
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  Speaker 3: so I couldn't go.
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  Speaker 2: It was evening she.
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  Speaker 3: Was coming back and I was standing in the car
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  Speaker 3: board and it was raining really heavy, and I was
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  Speaker 3: shining the light at the property across the road that
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  Speaker 3: we owned, and I got some I got some eye
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  Speaker 3: shine and it was way up off the ground, so
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  Speaker 3: I'm naturally, I'm thinking Bigfoot. And I kept shining the
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  Speaker 3: light back and it never came back, so, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it was pouring down. I put on running jacket and
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  Speaker 3: went across and it.
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  Speaker 2: Was kind of wooded over there.
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  Speaker 3: So I got to the tree and I looked up
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  Speaker 3: and it was dagam All sitting in the tree, and
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  Speaker 3: every thing screeched when I shine the light on it.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm running and my dog Opie's.
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  Speaker 3: Running and he's out running, so I grabbed him by
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  Speaker 3: the tail and a jerking bottom. So I got get
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  Speaker 3: in front of him and we come spilling out onto
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  Speaker 3: the road. Ride in his mind like it returning home,
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  Speaker 3: and sees and rollers down the window and looks at
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  Speaker 3: me and go, and how do you guys do when I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Out of here?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you grab grab, Oh my gosh. That's hilarious.
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  Speaker 1: That's hilarious. But it's also a little scary. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: owls can be quite scary at times.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: When I was a kid, my father had found an
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  Speaker 1: owl that had fallen. I think it fell off a
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  Speaker 1: power line or something happened to it, so it was deceased.
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  Speaker 1: And so he found it, and he thought it was
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  Speaker 1: so beautiful. He had it taxiderms and uh and this
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  Speaker 1: owl was actually taxidermed and put in my bedroom when
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  Speaker 1: I was a kid. Okay, so, and I chose to
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  Speaker 1: have it in my room. It's not like they force
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  Speaker 1: it in there. I chose. We had taxiderm animals all
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  Speaker 1: over our house when I was little. But this this
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  Speaker 1: owl had its wings spread and it had a look
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  Speaker 1: on its face like it was going to attack. And
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  Speaker 1: and I would wake up at night, especially it was
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  Speaker 1: thundering and lightning outside, and I lived out in the
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  Speaker 1: country in the middle of nowhere. When the lightning was shrike,
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  Speaker 1: that owl would light up in my room and it
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  Speaker 1: was really creepy.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, So I've always had a fascination with owls, but
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  Speaker 1: more recently I've had several accounts of owls or encounters
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  Speaker 1: with owls that were just very out of place and
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  Speaker 1: very extraordinary, I guess you could say. And one of
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  Speaker 1: them involved being up where I do field research up
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  Speaker 1: in North Georgia. I was up there with a couple
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  Speaker 1: of friends and we had had a really intense encounter
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  Speaker 1: with some potential bigfoots that had surrounded us and growled
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  Speaker 1: and huffed at us out in the field, And right
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  Speaker 1: as we were getting into the vehicle, do you know,
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  Speaker 1: one of the people that was with us got pretty
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  Speaker 1: scared quick and I was on the verge of like,
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  Speaker 1: maybe we should get out of here, because these people
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  Speaker 1: are not super familiar with this place and I am,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe we should just get out to be safe
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  Speaker 1: and not sudden it just started thundering and raining out
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  Speaker 1: of nowhere, and so we got in the car and
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  Speaker 1: we left, and as we were pulling out of that road,
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  Speaker 1: and a white owl dove in front of the car,
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  Speaker 1: and it was like slow emotion, looked at all three
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  Speaker 1: of us, and I screamed. I literally screamed because this
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  Speaker 1: owl was so out of place, it didn't make sense.
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  Speaker 1: And the way that it it glided sideways past the
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  Speaker 1: car and it was it look like we were going
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  Speaker 1: to hit it. That's why I screamed. And it looked
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  Speaker 1: it literally looked at us. It was like looking at
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  Speaker 1: our souls, all three of us.
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  Speaker 3: That way, when you look at them in the eye.
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  Speaker 3: They got the weirdest eye, you know, whether it's daytime
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  Speaker 3: or nighttime with flashlight.
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  Speaker 1: It was. It was just odd. And uh, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think a lot of us really talked a whole lot
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  Speaker 1: that ride back, either, because it was just so weird.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know. You hear you hear about people
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  Speaker 1: seeing owls out in the woods. Sometimes I tend to
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  Speaker 1: think that it could be a scream memory from an
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  Speaker 1: ET encounter.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think, Well, you know, I didn't realize
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  Speaker 3: there was so much paranormal association with owls, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I would. I always assumed it would have been a
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  Speaker 3: bat or something like that until I saw the movie
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  Speaker 3: The Fourth kind.
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  Speaker 2: Have you seen that movie?
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  Speaker 1: I love that movie that's supposed to be based on
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  Speaker 1: story like.
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  Speaker 2: Ex or just meets Et.
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  Speaker 3: It's the only alien movie that gave me the creeps,
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  Speaker 3: you know, And I started looking into it more after
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  Speaker 3: I saw that movie because of the association with owls
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  Speaker 3: in the alien faces. And yeah, it's pretty interesting, all
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  Speaker 3: the all the paranormal.
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  Speaker 2: Beliefs about owls.
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  Speaker 3: And before I go any further, I want to tell
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  Speaker 3: my own flight chief, John Taker, thank you. I'm having
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  Speaker 3: to use my phone, so I saw your instant messenger,
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  Speaker 3: but I didn't see it on the screen, but John,
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  Speaker 3: thanks for being here.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, I do that, Hey John, Hey John.
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  Speaker 1: I know we get a lot of comments in the
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  Speaker 1: chat and I can't keep up with them a lot
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  Speaker 1: of times, but they move really quickly. But we'll pull
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  Speaker 1: it up as soon as I get a chance. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna pull up.
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  Speaker 2: Came across my instant mess on my phone.
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  Speaker 1: Oh Perfect, what's up? Perfect? I wanted to show some
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  Speaker 1: pictures of some some owls. Okay, I know this. We're
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  Speaker 1: about to get into the witch owls and the Ishkatina
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  Speaker 1: here in a second. But I mean, owls are absolutely beautiful,
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  Speaker 1: you know, everybody, just about everybody that I know has
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  Speaker 1: seen an owl. I'm sure maybe not in person, but
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  Speaker 1: you know in pictures. And as a matter of fact,
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  Speaker 1: baby owls can be quite scary looking. Look at those
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  Speaker 1: legs on that thing, John, those are some serious long legs.
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  Speaker 1: Who I know, right, who would ever think that little
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  Speaker 1: baby owls have such long legs. So, but you know
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  Speaker 1: we're about to get into the right now, Okay, look
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  Speaker 1: at look at that Yeah, like it has those digital
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  Speaker 1: green legs kind of like a dog man kind of
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  Speaker 1: and uh, an owl. I mean, that's that's pretty terrifying.
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  Speaker 1: And when you think about shape shifting owls, that's even
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  Speaker 1: more terrifying when people, when humans can shape shift into
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  Speaker 1: an owl, that's odd. Now, I just had a conversation
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  Speaker 1: with Tom Springer on Saturday night. I had my buddy
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  Speaker 1: Tom here. We talked about the Chyenne dog soldiers potentially
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  Speaker 1: shape shifting into werewolves, but we got into the skin
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  Speaker 1: walker topic as well. And that's kind of what the
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  Speaker 1: Ishkatini is, right John.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is like if you go back to Chalk
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  Speaker 3: Towle Lord, the Iatini, it's more of a curse that
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  Speaker 3: you know, like a paranormal owl. It's not an owl,
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  Speaker 3: it's like a spirit owl. And if it's screams at night,
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  Speaker 3: it's for telling you you're gonna die, or someone close
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  Speaker 3: to who's gonna die, or something like that. Now, for
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  Speaker 3: my book Curse of the Ischcatini, I used the Seminole
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  Speaker 3: version of the Ischcatini, which is more of a cryptid
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  Speaker 3: and kind of makes it a little scared and nab
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  Speaker 3: a whole skin walker.
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  Speaker 2: Well, since you read the book, you know so.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So the Charktar legend is different from the Seminole legend,
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  Speaker 3: which the Navelo legend is different too, because the skin
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  Speaker 3: marker can basically take on any format wants, I believe.
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  Speaker 3: And here's another interesting thing I found when studying some
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  Speaker 3: of the traditions and legends of the tribals groups in
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  Speaker 3: this area. Is Bigfoot in one area for the Chartar
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  Speaker 3: maybe different than bigfoot in another area because back then,
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  Speaker 3: you know, they didn't have instant messager, they couldn't call
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  Speaker 3: on the bone. Tribes might not talk for months or
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  Speaker 3: years before they run into each other, so they may
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  Speaker 3: have different names, they may have different different incidents or
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  Speaker 3: or experiences with these things, so there's always a little
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  Speaker 3: bit different take, you know, even from even though you're
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  Speaker 3: in the same tribe, but if you're not in the
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  Speaker 3: same area, you can have a different take on the subject.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I find it really cool that you see, you
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  Speaker 1: do a lot of good research for especially for your books,
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  Speaker 1: and you live right in the heart of Bigfoot country
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  Speaker 1: out in Hanobi, Okay, out in Oklahoma. Lots of Bigfoot
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  Speaker 1: activity out there, And gosh, what was it I think
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  Speaker 1: I was reading your book. You're talking about the siege.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a siege. It's like a cryptid siege or
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  Speaker 1: some kind of takeover of the areas, kind of like
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  Speaker 1: how the book goes with with the kids. Okay, there
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna give the whole I'm not a
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  Speaker 1: good book away, don't worry. Okay, but there is. They're
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  Speaker 1: they're shadow Chasers, right, They're out there to kind of
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  Speaker 1: do well.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the kids named the club the shadow Chasers
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  Speaker 3: after the first book where they encounter the Sasquatch. They
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  Speaker 3: kind of formed the club to cool, so yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: kind of their club name. And then like the first
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  Speaker 3: book they encounter when they formed the club, they've encountered
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  Speaker 3: a bigfoot.
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  Speaker 2: Second book is Alien's third book is Ishkatini. The fourth
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  Speaker 2: book supposedly gonna be Tommy Knockers.
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  Speaker 3: They haven't got to it yet, you know, twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't got one book at yet out yet.
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  Speaker 3: It's been a it's been a battle all year with
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  Speaker 3: health issues and things like that. But yeah, so it's
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  Speaker 3: it's really a club name. And yeah they mentioned that, well,
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  Speaker 3: have you heard of the siege of oh Nubby?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I was actually making that that. I was gonna
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  Speaker 1: make that reference because out in Oklahoma there's a siege
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  Speaker 1: of Hanubi. I actually did a remote viewing target of that,
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  Speaker 1: and I have not done a show on that yet,
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  Speaker 1: but I have remote viewed that and it's really fascinating. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, my house is about two and a half miles
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  Speaker 3: from that house. No, right, yeah, it's a crow line.
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  Speaker 1: I know that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there's not many houses out here.
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  Speaker 1: That could be like an hour away then, huh. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just kidding. Well, you'll have to come on the show
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  Speaker 1: with me when I do that target one night on
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  Speaker 1: a Thursday, and we'll talk about the siege of Hunubi
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  Speaker 1: because that's a it's a pretty well known case where
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  Speaker 1: a family was actually.
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  Speaker 2: Actually my first book relics.
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  Speaker 3: I loosely based it on the Siege of Hunnubi because
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  Speaker 3: it is fiction, so it's a lot more violent and
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  Speaker 3: a lot more there's a lot more stuff going on.
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  Speaker 3: And I moved it twenty four more Callahena, But it
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  Speaker 3: was kind of loosely based on that. It's it's where
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  Speaker 3: I got my ideas from, I should say. And I
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  Speaker 3: actually friends on Facebook one of the brothers. He lives
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  Speaker 3: in Tallahena and Michael.
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  Speaker 1: Fascinating.
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  Speaker 3: His aunt was a realtor that sold me this house.
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  Speaker 3: So everything stays pretty close out of here.
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  Speaker 1: It does. Oh my gosh, Well, you've got your roots
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  Speaker 1: down over there, and uh and there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: Native American lore. There a lot of history there on
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  Speaker 1: the land. You know. It wasn't too long ago, about
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  Speaker 1: a year ago, I was doing that investigation out in
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Tennessee of the Skinwalker Cave. Okay, So I've got a
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: little bit of experience with with with these things. I
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: guess you could say things, but you you're right there
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: in the heart of Bigfoot Country. A lot of like
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I said, Native American legends and lore and potentially Ishkatini's Okay, Now,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: is that something that people talk about around there. I mean,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: is it it's popular.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: I'm in I'm in the chark Taw nation and I'm
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: right in the heart of the chark Tar nation, and
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: they don't like to talk too much about their that
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: you like my one go to guy, my neighbor pool
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: bloke talk tal and got the rest of soulis coming
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: down the mountain back in May and uh breaks went
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: out on his truck and he crashed into a tree
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: about five hundred feet from my house coming back to
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Talloheno and didn't make it. So he was kind of
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: my praying to the chark Tar and I lost him.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: But they're pretty tight. But now the don't talk about Bigfoot.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: But like dog men, forget it. You bring that up
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: and they won't talk to you. It's it's they just
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: they stopped right there.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: They don't want I think they believe by speak it,
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: thinking of it, you know, it brings it to you.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: And I never really got a chance to talk to
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: any about the Iscatini.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: So and like like I say, Dell was He's the
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: only talk.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: Talk man I knew, you know that I could talk
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: to about things like that. Most they really want to
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: talk to Texas White Boy about.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, I feel you. Okay, Well, I'm looking at
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: the comments over here in the chat and there are
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of fun facts about owls over here that
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I'm noticing. I know, I'm like super behind on the chat,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: but this is interesting because Mood at Noon says owls
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: are silent flyers, not typical for birds. That is so true.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: And there have been times where we were doing field
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: investigations at old cemeteries out in the woods and I
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: have pictures of what looked like potential ghosts like orbs
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: or something that are out there, And once you actually
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: really examined the pictures, there's one where I thought that
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I had some sort of an orber, like what do
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: you call those rods? It turns out it was just
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: a wide owl. It was an owl that had swooped
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: down over the guys that were out in front of me,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: but we never heard it. And also, owls do sleep
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: on their faces, which is really weird. Okay. They sleep
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: like they're just calmed out, face down, which is really
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: really interesting. And I love the sound of owls, okay,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: because I love the sound I hear them outside my
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: window at night. We have ols every place I've ever lived,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: we've had owls outside in the trees hooting at night.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: So and I've also been chased by owls. I've been
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: chased by an owl. Of well, I hooted back at them. Okay,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: so you have to be careful if you hoot it
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: an owl and they're making their hoots and you hoop back.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I was walking my dog one night and I hooted back,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: and I tried to emulate what it sounded like, and
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, sounded like a rabid monkey, and
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: it followed me. I took off running because I was scared.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: Well, they get it when you walk up stream and
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: put a spotlight on me and hoping I've found that out.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: And it was so funny because when that where they
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: started flapping his wings and making noise, the dog took
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: off quicker and I, you know, and I thought, he's
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: gonna get anybody.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: He's gonna get used and a jerky buddy. He's still
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: outran mey the rood.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yes, Well, I mean I've had I've
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: had plenty of encounters with als. A matter of fact,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: even my cousin Jesse, who is an artist. He makes
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: bigfoot art. Uh. He made that big Uh. People who
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: have gone to the Bigfoot Museum in Georgia expedition Bigfoot.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: He made the gigantic Bigfoot out of muscadon vines that
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: sits in front of that museum, is right. Yes, Well,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: when when Jesse was a kid, when he was really young,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: he and his mom were driving home one night, late
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: at night. They lived out in the country, and he's
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: always been inspired to make paranormal type art with cryptids
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: and aliens. We have a we have a history of
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: alien abductions UFO stuff. I'm not going to say abductions,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: but I mean I think it was abductions. Okay, but
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: with our great grandparents on the he and I shared
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: the same great grandmother and great aunt who had the
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: light that had that came down over the car one
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: night and they had missing time.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: And if they had miss time, yeah.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Yes, well they they attributed that to angels moving them
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: out of harm's way. So they never put the UFO
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: alien abduction thing, you know, they never made that connection,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: but Jesse and I did, and uh, of course, but
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: he was he and his mom were driving down the
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: road down their driveway and there were two out white
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: owls in their tree, one big one and one small one,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: like a mama and a baby, and they were huge.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: And he's actually it's inspired some of his artwork to
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: this day seeing that, and they both believe that that
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: was probably a screen memory.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Really, I hope send me a photo of some of
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: his work sometimes, if you.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Don't mind, I would like to you.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: You know, just south of here, about forty miles there's
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: a beaver's been near Broken Bow, and almost every place
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: you go, they've got some kind of big put thing,
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: you know, and they've made one out of some kind
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: of buns. Down there was at a restaurant and it
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: was beautiful and they would have to be about nine
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: foot tall and just beautiful.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: And that restaurant closed. I've always wondered what.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: Happened to that that big puts the made with vines.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, I couldn't put it in my house, but
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: it was a lot of someome piece of artwork somebody did.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, Jesse's actually made several of those, and
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: he sells them to like actors and you know, yeah,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: they are a bunch of different like museums all over
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: the country and stuff. And their hues are like ten
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: feet tall with what do you call them? Like sol
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: the lights and them so their eyes were light up
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: at night. I can't believe more people have not, like
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: people have not had Rex seen those things on the
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: side of the road. Okay, they look real, especially at night.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: So but anyways, okay, let's get back to the Ishkatini.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: I guess okay, let's let's talk about the Ishcatini a
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: little bit, or or we could. I guess we could
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: talk about Leila Choosa too, because I think that they're
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: kind of similar in a way. They're they're similar, but.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Well, Monica's is fann So I asked for last night,
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: have you ever heard.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: There's Leila Tusa?
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: And she's like no, I said you sure, and she goes, well,
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: where is it? I said, well, it's in Mexico. It's
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: in here and just in there, and she goes, you
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: do know I'm American, right, And I said I know,
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: but you know she grew up in ol Paso, so
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: that's like Mexico.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're just op skipping.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: I remember going there as a kid when my brother
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: was going to college at UTAP and I just fell
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: in love with it, you know, because to me, you know,
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: I'm like eight years old and there's another country right there.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: And now it's not sam ol Paso. I knew with
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: the kid, but I you know, but she doesn't have
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: relatives over there. And she said she had never never
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: heard of it. But that doesn't surprise me either. There
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: was something else. I'll find it later. I'll talk to
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: her about it. Some of her dad had encountered when
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: he was a young man in his teams or whatever.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: But I digress. Yes, like I'm saying, iskatini, it's a
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: little different.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: Depending on which tribe from the Gulf Coast tribes, which
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: is Chalktaw originally, and.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Like their iskatin is a little different from.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: The Seminole and the Georgia Georgia area Indians, and then
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: when you get to the Navajo, it's more of a
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: skin walker.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: So well, nonetheless, right, a little bit creepy. And they
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: say that if you hear an ish katini. Now, I
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: wonder if we're not supposed to say that word more
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: than three times, What do you know anything about that?
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Maybe we should be careful.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: We said fifty times trying to pronounce.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: It, right, I know, right, We're just mispronounced it, and
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter at that point, right if you mispronounce
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: it every time. But they say that if you hear it,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: if you hear it screeched or whatever kind of noise
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: it makes, it's it means sudden death. Okay, you're not
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: you may not survive it. Now, I don't know how
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: people would know that, because if you hear it, you're
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna die probably, But that's what they say.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: That's how it goes. It says, let's see, if the
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: screech owl is heard, it's a sign that a child
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: under seven years old is going to pass away, which
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: is horrible. That's that's how the legend goes with the
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: ish Katini. Yeah, so just just be be aware. Now
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: if the owl has human attributes, I'd be even more alarmed. Yeah,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: and that's where we get la la choose Actually, uh,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: the ishkatini is something to fear. Lala choose a. That's
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: actually when a there's there's two different there's two different
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: types of choose. Now, Lala choose a just means owl.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: It means the owl. But in folklore and mythology, and
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: some people say in real life it's actually in real
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: life it is the witch owl, okay, the witch owl,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: and this is really prominent. Lala Choose is actually quite
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: prominent in Mexico and in Texas, not too far from
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: where you lived on and it's probably it's probably all over.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I've heard of La la Choosa, okay, because somebody sent
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: me a video one night or one day, I don't
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: know when they sent it. They send it to me
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: at some point, and it made it gave me chills
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: down my spine literally when I saw this, because it
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: was a video of a woman who woke up one
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: night in her tent she was camping. I believe she
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: and her husband might have been in the tent together,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: and she woke up hearing noises outside, and so she
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: took her cell phone and turned the video the video on,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: started videoing, and stuck her hand outside. She ended up
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: the tent and kind of ran her camera along the environment,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: like around the perimeter of where they were camping, and
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: then she just turned her tone off and put it
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: down and said, I'll check that in the morning. And
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: I guess it's a good thing that she did. I
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: because the next morning, when she woke up. She was
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: freaked out, and I'm going to show you why she
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: was freaked out. And I think you and I have
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: talked about this before briefly. I think John, when we
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: were on Space I had you on Space outrating and
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: I mentioned this a while back. But we're going to
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: talk about it here on my channel today. And I'm
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: going to show this picture to the audience because I
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: did post this a while back on my Instagram, and
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: I think squatch Watch or somebody picked it up and
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: put it out and it got thousands and thousands of views, okay,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: And and I'm going to show you why because we
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: couldn't tell. You can't tell. I, like I say, I
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: don't know if this is a naked man, and and
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: you can't see anything, okay, so it's not like vulgar
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: if this is a human or an owl or what. Okay,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: brace yourselves. This was what was in her video and
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: this he's crouched something's crouched in that tree rad there.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, Yeah, that's a that's a weird video.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: This is still still shot from her video on her
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: on her cell phone. And this was at a campground
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: and I can't remember exactly where taking I can't find
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: the video, but I still have the screenshots from it
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: because I actually took a bunch of screenshots as I
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: was watching that video. Now I had to I had
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: started digging into what this could be. Right, this is
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: something that I I mean, this is something someone sent me.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: This is not a remote viewing target. This is nothing
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: that I had remote viewed. This was just something that
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: I was sent. Screenshot at it and then went down
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: the rabbit hole of trying to figure out what that
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: picture could have been, Like, what, what is that? Is
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: it anything? Well, if you look at it, John, you
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: can see it has.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Eyeshine, right, Yes, you can't say yeah, shame.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: But it also looks as though it has arms and
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: feet maybe. I mean it looks like it looks like
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: a man to me honestly. Yeah, But John, when you look.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: At it, make it man. And you know what, maybe
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: taking the picture saved there, you know.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Maybe? I mean I could also been an s walker,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: if you know what I mean, a skin walker maybe.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: But if it was that, it would have attacked her.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: When you said ass walker, I was like, Okay, we're
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: not allowed to say skinned.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: I know, I just I don't want to say it to.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Me the more rules every week.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yeah, that's it. I know that. The picture.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: To me, it is just really creepy, okay. And I
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: always tell the audience you know, I actually am not scared,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: and I don't get scared easily, Okay, I am. I
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: don't live in fear, especially when I'm out in the woods.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: I try it to have any fear, because you got
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: to keep your head straight when you're out there. But
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: it's the humans. It's the humans, John that worry me
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: a little bit. And if that's a human.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: In the wild hogs, isn't it the humans and the
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: wild hogs?
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, the wild hogs. That's right. Then there's a hog
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Zilla's out there. We have to worry about those two.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: But but to wake up at night and hear that
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: noise out your outside your tent and that be out
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: there right, I don't know. It might have been better
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: if she had woken or checked her video, woken up
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: her companion and gotten locked and loaded, if you know
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: what I mean. Because that that was thus creepy, okay,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: super creepy. But it led me to learn about La
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: La Choosa, Okay, because I believe that someone suggested that
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: when we were talking about what that could be, and
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: someone suggested the outwitch, the La la choosa. Now there's
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: actually another video a target that I was given in
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: remote viewing, which was an unspecified animal that was on
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: a game camera and it looked like a dog with
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: a human face. Really yes, and local said.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: That, uh yeah, the it's Katini the talk do all verb,
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: not the talk do all version, but the seminole vision.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: It would it would eat the heart of its victims
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: and as long as it had that heart, anxiety make
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: it take the appearance of its victim, so walk around
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: looking like somebody killed. And he could keep that until
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: it went back to wherever they had drugged the victim's body,
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: puped the heart out, then it could.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Go back to his normal. Yeah, that's pretty griss.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: But you know, oh my gosh, well you know what
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: that actually coincides with what Tom told us on Saturday
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: night when it comes to the s Walkers. You know,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: he's actually a he's been in the military most of
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: his adult life. He has an interesting job. I'm not
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: going to get into details, but he I don't know
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: if he still gets called in or not, but he
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: has spent a lot of time in combat, let's just say,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: in the military, and we were talking about berserkers, and
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: he said, actually, you know, he's been in he's had
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: to go into hand to hand combat before where he
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: blacked out and doesn't remember a lot. But you know,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: sometimes you have to do that in order for your
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: to stay sane. Okay, when you get into a rage,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: when you're defending your life and things. Okay, Well, in
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: some of these instances, you know, when he's with his unit, uh,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: he said that they were on a mission, let's just say,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: and they were walking through I think he was in
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: the Middle East. I'm not sure, but he said, they're
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: walking and they start hearing cries for help, they heard
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: babies crying. Okay. All the while he said, no, no, no,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: you do not. He said that he told his guys,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: we do not stop, do not go off the trail,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: do not find out what that is. It's it's mimics,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: it's voices, s walker. Okay, it's something supernatural, and it
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: it's gonna eat us. Okay, it will eat you. But
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: he encountered, he literally encountered that while in combat overseas somewhere,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: and he got into the details of how before you
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: know the s Walkers. They can take your hair, they
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: can take your hair, they can take your fingernails, and
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: through magical practices, can become you. Okay, and by becoming you,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: I mean you're doppelganger, John Doppelginger to look at it,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: sound exactly like you.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Yes, I think if I had a doppel ganger, it
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: would be the worst thing you'd happen to people, two
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: of them.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: I think it'd be kind of cool. Yeah, I think.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it'd be cool. It'd be horrible, right,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: But I think it'd be I've talked about doppelgangers quite
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: a bit. I've actually heard my own voice before out
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: in the Woods, which was weird, very weird, and it's
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: so it's so it's so weird that it took me
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: weeks to realize that was my own voice.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you know, you never sound like you think
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: you do, Like, oh my gosh.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: I'll watch this later and I'll hear my voice go
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: oh my god, and just turn it up. I'll get
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: about five minutes and my own boys say, Okay, I
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: like to stand.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: I'm the same way John. Actually, when I was a kid,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: I had on those Fisher Price tape recorders, and it
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: had a microphone. And I used to narrate anything that
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: happened in my house and I put it on tape
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: and I would it was like a team I guess so.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: But I would listen back and it sounded so country.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: I had the most country twang. Imagine that and uh.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: And so I was embarrassed. I was like, that can't
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: be my voice, because in my head I didn't sound
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: like that. But on tape. I was interviewed on a
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: radio stationed by my uncle about a tornado that came
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: through the area, and I got made fun of because
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: I sounded so country. I was only eight, but I
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: spent my entire life trying not to sound like that
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: kid that didn't like my country voice. Okay, so now
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I'm okay with my country voice. It's fine. But we
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: don't sound the same that we think we do. No,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: we don't go back and hear us recorded. Yeah, but
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I yeah, I feel you on that. But it is
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: it is odd. It's it's very I use the word
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: jarring a lot because it's jarring. It's like it it
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: doesn't make sense in your mind that I could even
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: be your voice.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's your voice coming back. Can I ask
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: you a quick question about the woods and we'll get back.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: Have you ever run across a set of stares in
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: the woods?
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, somebody just asked that in the chat the other day. No,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: I have never. I've never come across anything like that.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: Well that's a thing too. I guess you're not supposed
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: to get on them. But yeah, I've seen pictures in
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: this perfectly good set of just out in the middle
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: of the woods, and it's a thing. I mean, it
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: goes up on all over the place.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I haven't done. No, if I ever come
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: across the set of stairs in the woods, I'll let
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: you know, though I promise i'll take pictures. I'm not
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: going to walk up them, though I've been told don't
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: walk up the stairs.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't either, you know, just may tip over if
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: nothing else that's right. Oh my gosh, this.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: Does does it kill people? Or does it just like
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: a curbs kind of thing?
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Or it does it does that? They will eat you. Actually,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: they lure people off the trail, just like what Tom
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: was telling us the other day. Now, I want to
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: show I've got some I found these online. Okay, So
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: here's a picture of it's actually like a shape shifter.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: And this is just kind of an example. So there
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: are two different types of la la choose us. They're
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: two different types. Uh, there's one one way to become
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: one or one, which is let's just say there's a
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: woman who practiced witchcraft the local Okay, so this is
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: this is one of the origin stories, you know, like
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: in Marvel or something. This is the origin story. Uh,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: there's a woman who practiced witchcraft. The locals did not
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: like the fact that she was practicing witchcraft, and so
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: they ended up unaliving her unliving means murdered her, okay,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: And so so she came back to take vengeance upon
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: the people who unlived her, and she returned as an owl,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: like an owl woman hybrid actually, so I don't know
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: if it looked like that. This is just a picture
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: that was online here too. I think she looks more
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: female woman like human like with our features. Actually, that's
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: kind of how the story goes there. This right here
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: is a really cool picture because that looks really it
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: looks kind of demonic and scary there. So she so
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: it's a it's a woman who had our features that
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: returned Now there's another another type of La la choosa,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: and this is where you can choose to become one,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: almost like the s Walkers. Okay, so this is and
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: it's it's usually women. I haven't heard of any men
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: that were La la chooses. Okay, maybeis could be male.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: These are all female. It says that women get they
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: possess the desire to gain magical powers, kind of like
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: the s Walkers. So what do they do, John, They
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: sell their soul to the devil. They make that pact,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: so similarly to the s Walkers and to the Ishkatini.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: They do rich. They sell their soul.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: They transform at night and they fly around at night
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: looking for victims. And there's usually men. Now what they
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: do is exactly what Tom was telling us on Saturday Night.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: So change keep it's changed with women, women looking dud
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: for men. Okay, I get it. I tell you. Yes.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Well these are actually pretty demonic sounding, okay, super demonic.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: But they what they do is they lure people off
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: the trail, especially when they're out in the woods or
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: even at their homes wherever they are. They lure people
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: out of their houses. They lure people off the trail
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: by making crying sounds like a child, so they cry
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: like a kid when the kid goes to them, when
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: the human goes to them, the adult goes to them,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: the men children, whoever goes towards them, Uh, they scoop
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: them up, they carry them to their nest. They say,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: they peck them to pieces until they bleed out and
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: then they eat them. So that is diabolical.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, not a good reply, as they say. You know,
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: I was thinking too. They kind of like the chartar.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: They have like two versions of Bigfoot. They have the
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: oak lea cheetah, which is just big people, that's what
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: it means in their language. And there it's kind of
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: like just a docile, you know, bigfoot that live in
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: the forest and walk away from you if you encounter them.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: And then they got what they call a champe and
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: that's like an evil ogresh possessed type of of bigfoot
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: type cryptid.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: So they kind of got a good one and a
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: bad one.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, very interesting. I'm looking at what's up the phoenix,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Hey lady, She says, I shift for like ninety seconds
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: at a time. I didn't make a pact. I think
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: it's Tuatha de denan phase shifter DNA. Oh my gosh,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: is that for real? Because that's pretty cool. Okay. So
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: shape shifting is a thing foreshore foreshore and uh, and
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: it's not only in the you know s Walker phenomenon here,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it a phenomenon, okay, but it's not
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: just with that, but it's with the fay.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: It's but a lot of it is. And I'm not
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: saying it's all witchcraft is dark, okay, but we have
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: other types of beings, even even Spearfinger okay, my one
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: of my favorite witches. Okay, but she's she's of the
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Cherokee lore. And I do believe that there have been
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: times out in the woods, John, that me and my
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: team have encountered Spearfinger out in the woods. And it
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: sounds so weird. It's almost like, how could that be right,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: because it's just a myth, she's not real. It's just
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: a telle to keep the kids out of the woods
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: at night. No, I think that we might have encountered
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Spearfinger out in the woods before some sort of an energy.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Now she's known as a shape shifting witch up in
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: the Appellationians. Are you familiar with with Spearfinger.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: John never heard her mention her.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Now, Oh, I think I may have a couple of
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: pictures actually because I started thinking about her. There's there's
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: a lot of things that are related here, I do believe,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: and these are just some artistic representations that is actually
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: from a book I believe about Spearfinger. Spearfinger is she
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: lures She lures children off trail. She she'll lure anybody
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: that she can get, but she likes to shape shift.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: She's actually quite demonic looking and just horrific. She's like
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: this what do you call it, Like a giant, a
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: deformed giant kind of, And she takes the form of
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: an old woman and she will go off to the
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: woods and she will just be very loving and kind,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: especially to children, and she'll you know, stroke their hair
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: on their head until they fall asleep in her lap.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: And then she takes her long spear finger and she
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: will dig it into their back and she pulls out
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: their liver and then she eats it.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Yes, like the witch on Hansel and Gretel. Wasn't she
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: like real nice until she got them and then putting
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: out so many old legends and stuff kind of you know,
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: you got wide the same legends.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, they're all they're all very similar.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: So it makes you wonder, Okay, are they similar because
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: it's just a tradition that's just kind of been passed
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: down through regions and it's not real. Or could there
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: really be shape shifting which is out in the woods.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Well, how would you.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: Explain those an knocky type stone carvings that the people
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: in like the spade suits in the bag in Egypt
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: and then again on the pyramids in Mexico the same thing,
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, the same thing.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: How to explained stuff like that?
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Well, it's just what people saw all over the world.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: It's so wild, right, so wild. Okay, So with Lolly Choosa,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: some of the stories say that they swooped down over
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: people's car at night. Okay, it sweeps down over cars
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: at night.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I just told the story when we first started the
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: show about being up at one of my research areas
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: having a super intense big Foot encounter. We hopped in
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: the car because it started pouring rain and rain. At
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: that exact moment, the rain came out of nowhere. There
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: was no rain in the forecast. All of a sudden
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: thunderstruck and lightning struck and then the skies opened up
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: and it started pouring, and it wasn't just sprink it
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: was pouring a tracial downpour where we thought the road
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: might give out. So we got out of there so quickly.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: And as we're leaving that al swooped. That al swooped
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: down over in front of the car and looked at
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: all three of us, and I screamed because I thought
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: we were going to hit it. Now it says it
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: swooped down sweeps down over cars at night. So what
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: what I'm thinking is we might have encountered l I'll
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: let choose a of there.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: You know you're talking about.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: You had a you have an intense, big, big put encounter,
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: you have a storm come out of nowhere. Then you
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: got this longlegs chooser this, I'll you know here about
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: that part from end up in a David Politis book.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Right, And I don't think anybody knew where we were
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: going either, Okay.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: So I had not told them, Yeah, you were doing
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: everything wrong.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: I did everything wrong that night. I did oh, I
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: did everything.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: We took precaution, We just I just you know, these
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: areas that I go. I don't like people knowing where
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: I'm going. You know, if they know I'm going somewhere,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: I just don't know exactly where I'm going. Okay, but
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: I got my spots. People could have found me, let's
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: just say, but it would have taken a minute figured out.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: You would have had to call the right person to
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: find out where I was. But nonetheless, yeah, we could have.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: We could have. I did have my you know, I
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: had my ham radio with me and stuff. But at
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: the same time, you just never know, no, you do.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: Never there's something you never. I got lost here. First
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: time I came to look in the woods, I went
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: up a hill and as before I moved here. It
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: was the first time I came here. I thought I
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: was writing the first book, and I thought, well, I
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: want to see what the Knight's like out there and
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: see if I'm describing and writing a book. And I
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: came out here and parked about three miles down the
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: road before town, went up the hill, got turned around.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: There there's no reference, you know, there's no city lights,
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: there's nothing.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got lost. Finally figured out my phone came on.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: I said, oh, okay, there. I didn't realize there was
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: an intersection. I had walked all the way on the
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: mountain ridge to an intersection and couldn't figure out why
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: my truck wasn't there.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: And you're you literally live right in the area of
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: the Siege of Hanobi and to have bigfoots in your backyard.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And then crossed my mind a couple of times.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: And I didn't tell anything. You know, it was back
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: when single. I didn't tell anybody where I was going.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: I just threw some stuff in the truck and took off,
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: you know, on a Saturday.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: And yeah, oh my gosh, Well we got to be
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: more careful. I guess right. I'm usually pretty careful about
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: about stuff, okay, and uh, And like I said, somebody
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: would have eventually figured out where I was, but at
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: that moment, no, And so it was good that we
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: got out of there. I took it all as an
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: omen like, you know, maybe I'm not gonna say we
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: shouldn't have gone there, because we all had a really
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: intense bigfoot encounter. It was really cool. But it's almost
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: like we were being forced to leave and guided out
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: of there, if you know what I mean. It's like
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: forced out guided and then had that experience and it
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: was like it was just really cool. I don't know
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: if it was like stay away or what. But here's
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: another here's another fun fact about lally Choosa. Their bulletproof.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: They're immortal. When people shoot at them, they don't they
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: don't pass away. Yeah right, But they're also known to
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: some in thunderstorms. They're known to some in thunderstorms. And
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: that's exactly what happened to us up on that mountain
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: that night, was we had the Bigfoot experience. Thunderstruck, rains
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: started pouring down, we had to get out of there.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, one of the we're talking about these
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: al based cryptids and stuff, something that I never knew
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: about until a couple of years ago. I think it
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: was only two years ago.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: I was watching the movie, Uh, the Four Kind, and
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: it started relating people seeing these oul faces in their
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: windows at night and it and they were going through
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: the alien abduction stuff, and I hadn't Yeah, there you go.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: I had no idea that the two were connected like that.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: And that's really interesting to me. In fact, that's giving
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: me food for another book.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: So well, it does an out looks eerily similar to
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: an extraterrestrial, which is really interesting. I love these pictures,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: these are just amazing.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: This artwork. Now, that's that's back to the Ischcatini. That one.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Well this now, now, is that the flat Woods monster? John?
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: You know, it could be It looks a bit like it,
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: doesn't it. But I think this must be an Iscatini.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: You know, it's got the outface on the right. I
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: don't know, maybe an It may be the flat was monsters.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: Good good catch.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: It definitely does.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: I have not covered the flat Woods monsters on my
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: show yet, so that's something we need to look into
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: in the field.
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: We're gonna have to when you and I, when you
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: have me as a as a guest, we're gonna call
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: it the A D D Show because because we all
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: start covering everything.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: Else because well, here's the thing, John, is all connected.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I believe it's all connected too. It's like
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: your your grandparents.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: You know, you're saying it was aliens picking up They
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: said they it was an angel thing. It's both to
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: me because I believe that's what we're seeing. I believe
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: that's what the An Andakey were. I tend to look
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: at them as angels. Some people want to call them aliens.
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: It's like, okay, but you know, I look at things
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: through a biblical worldview, and I do think it's all connected.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: I really do.
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: And it goes from the good to the bad, you know.
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, sorry, if I got out, if I
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: got off the path.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: We were on the pe Times today.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Now we're listen our path, they say, my okay, so
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: my senior, what is it called? Like the quote? We
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: had a senior quote when I was in high school
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: and it was talking about I think it was like,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it was I forgot who wrote
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: this poem. If I don't know, it was Robert Froster,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: something about the path less traveled. Okay, I am so
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: off path all the time. I go, that's where all
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: the adventure is. That's where the fun is. Okay, that's
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: where the things are un explored. That's what I do. Okay.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: And uh, I took that to heart. Okay, And that's
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: what I do. And and if that means us taking
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: detours off of what we're what the main topic is,
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: then so be it. Because that's the way we make
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: sense of things because you know, honestly, nothing makes sense.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: We don't have to make things make sense. But when
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: we can relate one story to the next that's where
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: the beauty lies, in my opinion.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: Good point, good point. Plus it's Monday, it is Monday.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Who gives a crap. We're just here to have fun.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: We're just here to have fun and have the audience.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: We've got a great audience today. I'm sorry, I keep
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: getting sidetracked and I can keep forgetting full of comments here.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: I do want to show a couple more pictures too,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: before we go on, because John, you you sent me
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: some great pictures. Now, this that's a great piece of
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: art right there. Now, that's that's a little creepy. That
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: looks ominous.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: It does.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: That's an ominous one here and that looks now now
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: that would be interesting to see in the woods.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: And uh and this this actually looks like La la
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: choosa what I would think?
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah it does now I found that on the Iscactini side.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: But you're right, it does look like but the laa
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: choose the art you were showing me.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Well, I just think that they're connected. I think that
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: there's a some smiliarity with them. And uh, of course,
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: any any kind of owl witch, I mean that's what
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: it is. Continued. A skin walker is a witch, right, so.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the same thing with the seminal version of these.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: It's a witch doctor a witch ye.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Okay, Well, so I mentioned that the the
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Lalla Chooser will summon a thunderstorm, and that is how
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: it takes cover when it's hunting. And so the fact
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: that I encountered the thunderstorm the rain right after the
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot experience, and then we drove out and then the
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: owl sweeped on over the car and looked at us
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: in our eyes like we we all three literally felt
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: like we didn't know if we'd had missing time or what. Like,
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: we were so confused, and I do you remember John,
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: that same night while we were going when we were
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: going there and going back, we had we were we
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: didn't have any kind of address the g because where
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: I took them was not there's no address there. You
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: have to know it if you know it. If you
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: know it, you know it, and and so there's no
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: actual coordinates to get there, Like I didn't have any
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: to get there, and so they only knew how to
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: get there by me telling them where to go because
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: I was in the back seat, somebody else was driving.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: And when we got out on the road, the GPS
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: was actually showing that we were not on the road.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: We were driving on the road, but it was showing
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: us driving way off in the field next to where
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: we were driving. It was just weird the whole trip,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: which is really odd, and we were sitting there trying
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: to figure that out. When that ol sweeped down in
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: front of our car.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: I'll be doing.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, everything was going haywire, honest, So really interesting stuff.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: Could have been. La la Choosa could have just been
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: a coolincidence, Okay, could have been. But there are ways
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: to fight La la choosa, to keep it away from
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: you and to keep it from harming you, because ultimately,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: like Tom was telling us on Saturday, the ultimate goal
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: is to eat you and to harm you. It all
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: boils down to the blood basically when it comes to
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: these creatures out there. So the number one thing that
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: you can do is to carry salt and throw salt
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: at it.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: Wow, not with the salt.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know those old traditions, right John, where
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: you throw salt over your left shoulder and you put
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: salt around your house to protect your house.
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, my dad told me when I was
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: a little bitty boy, if I could get salt on
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: a bird's tail. I could catch it, it couldn't fly.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: And I don't know how many pounds of salt I
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: wasted chasing birds around New York. I think you keep
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: me busy, keep me out of trouble.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and salt was cheap, probably, so you could just
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: waste all the salt you wanted. Okay, that's actually not
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: a bad idea. But you said catch a bird bite's tail.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: That's where you learn how to catch your dog bitees
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: Tailou wasn't it?
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: No, it was get salt on the bird's tail and
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: then you can catch it. It couldn't.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: Oh get this, Oh, put the salt on the bird sail.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: I thought you might catch it by his tail. That's funny.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: But then again, when I was older, it took me
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: snipe onny dude.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: So oh, very nice, very nice. Uh Okay, that is
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: that's wild. Okay. We talked a good bit about the
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: salt when it comes to keeping bad spirits away, and
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: you know, demonic entities and things like that. Some people
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: actually even put salt around their bed at night and
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: put salt around their bed post to keep I guess
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: the sleep paralysis demons out or something I'm not even sure,
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: but uh, but yeah, let's see salt. Okay. So and
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: when it comes to salt, okay, here's the thing. When
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: people say, like, if you get some, you spill some salt,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: you get it, and you throw it over your left shoulder.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: That's what I remember from growing up as a kid.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: But that's because it repels demons. And I never knew that.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: I just thought it was good luck. Apparently it repels
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: all the negative energies away from you. So I need
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: some more salt. I need to carry salt in my bag,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: like get my pocket every day so I can just poop.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: I would throw it at people. I'm just kidding. I
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: wouldn't throw it at people that might hurt. But okay,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: So salt is one way to repel the la la choosa.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: The second way. You will never guess the second way, John,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: unless unless you've already researched this. The second way to
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: repel la la choosa. Do you want to take a guess?
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: Pepper?
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know, pepper, that's close, but no cigar. Okay.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: The second way is to cuss at it, to say
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: swear words, and to say the worst swear words you
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: could think of and uh and that's how you get
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: how you repel them now, which which sounds totally weird. Okay,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I mean,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: I get I get mad, like I don't like hearing
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: too many cuss words. Personally myself, I don't cuss very often.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: Well, if I was mad or scary time, I probably
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: would be when I wouldn't even need to sell so
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: exactly right, because it was if I thought it was
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: trying to kill me.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: Because yeah, yes, okay, I just I just remembered something
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: and there was a video that I would have loved
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: or shown. I forgot to pull it up because I
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: was thinking about this last night when I was getting
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: ready for the show. There's a hilarious video. To me,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: it's hilarious. It might not be funny to other people.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: To me, it's hilarious. There's a church, I think it
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: was supposed to be in Mexico, and al had landed
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: inside the church and the congregation, the choir everyone in
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: there started playing music, you know, hitting their tambourines, playing
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: piano and whatever they're doing, and they started singing to
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: get the bird out of the church because they said
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: they thought it was a demon or demonic or some
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: kind of jock in law. They choose a right, so
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: they start singing and this video is all of them
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: singing and dancing, and they're trying to get this owl
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: to leave, to banish the owl by singing praise songs
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: and the ouse parts going like this, man, the owl's
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: just chilling. It's like yeah to the beat, and in
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: its head it's just kind of bobbin and it's vibing,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: like this owl is so vibing, and uh and that
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: is I mean to me, that is hilarious. Okay, it's hilarious.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: I know it's not probably not funny the everybody, but
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: uh yeah, if you guys can find that, what I'll
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: do after the show, I will definitely thank you. And
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: Andrew thinks it's funny, okay, but uh but people, uh,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: I will you guys. I will find that video on Instagram.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: It's on Facebook. I'm going to find it and put
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: it on my my stories. I'll put it on my
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: stories and uh but yeah, it just it started just
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: dancing and the more the louder they got, and the more,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: you know, the more repetitive they got with it. The
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: bird just kind of sat there and just dance some
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: more and it never left.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: That's yes.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: So yeah, uh that that was another introduction to lallet
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: choose as well. But anyways, I know, we like to
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: make light of these really dark topics, you know, John,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: And so that's what I do. That's what I do
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: because these are no joke and if they're going to
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: go eating people, yeah, yeah, we gotta probably not laugh
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: about it too much. But that was a funny one.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: That was really funny there.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: I tend to laugh a lot when I'm scared. I
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: think a lot of people do because it eats his attention,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: And you know, if I'm in a situations got to
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: going bad, I'm probably going to say something, make a
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: joke about it, or you know, try and get a
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: laugh out of it, just to ease attention, you know.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, So have you ever seen me laughing
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: in a bad situation? Is not because I'm brave, It's
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: just because I'm trying to ease attention, get you know,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: make sure I don't lose it or something.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: I'm the same way, John, I'm the same way. I
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: think a lot of us are. And and so it's
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: that nervous laugh.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, well I've been here before. All right, what's about
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: to happen. If I'm not laughing, I'm crying. That's my motto.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: If I'm not laughing, I'm crying. Okay. So yeah, that's
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: like I said, I think a lot of us are that.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: That's same exact way. So, uh, but that's that's what
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: we do over here on the crypt Hunter's Channel. I
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: just don't think we should take everything so seriously all
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: the time. Okay, these are serious topics, but we got
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: to throw in a little bit of lightheartedness with all
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: of it. And uh, and so you do that. You
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: do a great job of doing that with your book
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: series too, John, I love it. You've got your books
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: could be like so violent but so funny and uh
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: and keep keep people on the edge of their seats,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: even the youth books too, by the way, So I
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: I salute you for your amazing books. I love your
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: book series and I appreciate that.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm uh, sarcastic.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: Characters in my book, I guess, oh my gosh, they're well,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: they're they're amazing and it keeps it keeps the reader
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: focused in on it.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: So you know, I've got Relics one. It's in the
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: hangar right now. It's getting redone.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: I got a publishing company that has a line editor
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: and a content editor going over to get all the
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: typos and things like that, because I just wanted, you know,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: I want it right, you know, TYPEO wise and all that.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: I know, Relics had a lot of issues, and so
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: I'm paying to get all that fixed. And but it's
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: still gonna it's still gonna have the same same stuff.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: And you know, I was worried about people like in
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: my book. And then when people got so mad because
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: a certain character got killed in the second book, I
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: figured out I was doing I was doing things right
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: if people were and I was getting hate mail about
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: another another character in the first book, and you know,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: he came back in the second book and they're like,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: something's gonna happen to him. And then another character had
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: their demise, and oh, my goodness, you would.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: Have thought the world ended. So you know, I was
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: taking a beating, but I thought, no, that's a good sign.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: Hey, at least people are passionate about your books. John,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: That says a lot.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: I remember one guy said, you know you're you killed
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: this guy's like Ian Flemy killing Double O seven and
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I'm writing the series. My Double O
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: seven hasn't shown up yet, you know, my Double O
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: seven count of come down on the third book. But
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: it's it's been enjoyable. It's just funny seeing how how
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: people react. They all react so differently.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 5: You know, like some will write some really saying, some
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 5: just you, you know, they they catch you out and
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 5: tell you how stupid you are, and it's it's it's funny.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: It's a lot of fun. But I really appreciate your
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: support of my books.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much well, of course, and I am
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: I am lucky enough to have a copy of just
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: about every one of your books. And uh, and I
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: have read all of them.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: I have.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: There's one that I have not finished that you sent
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: me yet. But uh, but when I can, I find
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: time to read your books, for sure. And so does
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: my son. He's got the Youth novels and I love them.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: And so yeah, I wanted I think this is a
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: great stopping point. I guess I do have to go
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: pick up my kid.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: It is a weekday, so.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: I can say one thing right now, I'm becoming websites
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: my website company came back and wanted like to double
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: the price and I'd already paid for a year, and
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: then they wanted more, and I'm like, no, if I
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: got to build one myself. So find my books on
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: Amazon at John Vandaventer. Just look author John Vanda Winter
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: and that's the way to find them right now, and
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: hopefully by the next time I'm on your show, I'll
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: have a new website.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I was gonna tell you. I was
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: trying to. I was trying to type in your website
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: today and it was not coming up. So I was
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: actually going to and that is it's relicsbook dot com.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: But y'all go to Amazon and I'll just put this
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: back on there so you'll know that it's Relics. So
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: it's the Relics series John Vendavnter.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: You'll see his name right there and I say spell
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: it and John been de venture on Amazon. All his
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: books are there, y'all, Okay, so please and we'll I
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: think there actually is a link in the description box
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: to Amazon. Maybe I was gonna put it in there.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: If I didn't, will All those Shadow Chaser books are
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: on Audible.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: They're on audible. So if you can't get your kid
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: to read, but to listen, well that's kind of dumb.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: Then I'm like, but if they like to listen to
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: a story, they're on audible as well.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well it's good to have. Like if you're
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: on a trip, you're you're going on a long drive.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: I've been taking my son on trips to go big
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: footing out of town and stuff, and and so it's
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: you know, two or three hours. Actually we took an
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: eight hour drive back in July. But uh, but yeah,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: that that'd be great to have on audio actually these books.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that is a great idea. And so I
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: think it's wonderful.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: John.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: I'm so excited that you came hung out with me
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: again today. I I really do have a good time hanging.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: Out with you. Yeah, I have a good time too.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: Well good. Well, do you have any final thoughts on
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: the Iscatini and Lalla Choosa today?
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: Well, the Iscatini talked all wise, how are you gonna
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: know if it's an Icicatini right now? If you're basing
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: on the hearing semino wise and Larlatuosa, I think that's
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: just be a terrifying thing to run into, you know,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: and I don't think.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: Bird shot would do it. You're gonna need buckshot.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. See you think in terms of what
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: I think in terms of and I know a lot
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: of people do not think this way. And I'm sorry,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: but you think of well, can can I stop it?
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: But if I had to, you know, could well bullet
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: a bullet penetrate it? And actually the answer is no,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: they say when it comes to La La Choosa, and
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: they say also with the s Walkers as well, so Iscatini,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: what do I here too?
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: Some of the big Foot? Although Monica got me a
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: forty five seventy rifle.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: The verse you we're here, and you know people to
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: quote you get on their spirit animal. I said, well,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: we're gonna find out if it ever comes to that.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: Like Lance, Oh I can't Lance High Tower.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. If you've met him, he's got
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: a podcast and stuff and he's been on show me.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right. His brother Lane said one of
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  Speaker 2: the funniest things one time.
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  Speaker 3: He goes, yeah, if it's if it does that bluff
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  Speaker 3: charge on me, it's getting shot because I don't recognize
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  Speaker 3: bluff charge.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Well, yeah, awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's an awesome guy, good guy, he's so sweet.
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  Speaker 1: I really enjoyed having him on here. He came on
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  Speaker 1: and we talked about it.
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  Speaker 3: I would have me when she's got lan, I could
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  Speaker 3: put Lance's on there and he's on TV about the
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: same thing.
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  Speaker 2: So I thought that would be a good of a couple.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, that was that was That was good looking out John.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about Alaska. Actually it was Alaska sit around
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  Speaker 1: little people.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I love him to dask. I would love to bring
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  Speaker 1: him back on sometime too. He's a he's a cool dude.
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  Speaker 3: He's gonna be this weekend and iob real quick, this
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  Speaker 3: is weekend, but it'll be big foot past Friday, Saturday
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  Speaker 3: and Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: So you're in this area, come on out and they're
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  Speaker 2: going to answer. Great speakers.
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  Speaker 3: Lance will be one of them, and also great Foot,
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  Speaker 3: great vendors and music. So it's it's time to invade
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  Speaker 3: and then just make sure you're out of here by Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: So quiet back, Oh man.
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  Speaker 1: I so wish I lived closer John. I would be
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  Speaker 1: there for that one.
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  Speaker 2: Come to it. I think he'd enjoy uh yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I'll fly out when.
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  Speaker 2: When I introduced you to she's speaking there as well
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  Speaker 2: this year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's with Bigfoot Night Callers Radio, right right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she's amazing. I love her. So yeah, well that sounds fun.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: It is Bigfoot conference season. Okay, there's a lot of
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot events going on. I'm gonna be at two different
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  Speaker 1: events this weekend as a matter of fact. Excuse me,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: hold on, I gotta cough again. I'm gonna Okay, there
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  Speaker 1: we go. I'm gonna be at two events this weekend,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: and and I have I have events coming up all
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: throughout next month as well. Uh what they have to
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: do with bigfoot. So it's the fall. It's when the
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: leaves turn here in Georgia. It's a great time to
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: be alive, a great time to be a Bigfoot field researcher. John.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: So John, have fun next week or this weekend if
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: you go and come back and see me. All right, Yo,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: I gotta go. Everybody, have a wonderful day.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on JJ. I hope you get
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: that out settled.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. All right, y'all have a wonderful day.
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  Speaker 1: I will see y'all Wednesday.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: I am so sorry. I got something in my throat, John,
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  Speaker 1: thank you again. Have a great day y'all. I'll see
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  Speaker 1: you Wednesday, all right,