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Bipolar · GAS MONEY

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SPEAKER_05: Welcome to another installment of Gas Money.
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SPEAKER_05: We got Red in the Building.
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SPEAKER_05: What's going on, everybody?
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SPEAKER_04: We got KO Jo to my left.
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SPEAKER_01: Hi, everybody.
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SPEAKER_01: We also have Ace on the mic.
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SPEAKER_03: We'll uncomagin Selecta.
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SPEAKER_03: We got AG over here on the mic.
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SPEAKER_05: You're probably gonna have to translate that for our American listeners.
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SPEAKER_05: So you need a comment.
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SPEAKER_03: Wheel and come again, selector.
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SPEAKER_03: Just means bring it back, homie.
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SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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SPEAKER_03: Okay, cool.
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SPEAKER_03: And all the other um mumble jumbo you said?
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SPEAKER_03: That was just that was just vibrations.
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SPEAKER_04: Show them my god.
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SPEAKER_05: All of that good stuff.
0:41
SPEAKER_05: Um so we're very we're starting off very ethnic this week, clearly.
0:44
SPEAKER_05: Um I want to hear you speak Dalek one day, yeah.
0:46
SPEAKER_05: Um give me a couple more drinks and it might uh spill up.
0:49
SPEAKER_05: There we go.
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SPEAKER_04: Just like drinking more lick in this week, that's our goal to give him shots.
0:54
SPEAKER_04: We're gonna get this shit popping today.
0:55
SPEAKER_00: Keep that cup full.
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SPEAKER_05: They're currently pouring me some brown colored alcohol.
0:59
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, right.
1:00
SPEAKER_03: So he needs to know it's brown, it's good for you.
1:03
SPEAKER_05: I thought white was right.
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SPEAKER_03: For some.
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SPEAKER_04: They say brown stays down.
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SPEAKER_03: Uh brown stays down, white is right.
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SPEAKER_03: In this part of town.
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SPEAKER_04: Okie dokie.
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SPEAKER_04: Look at that.
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SPEAKER_04: Poet and didn't even know it.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, so last week we ended the podcast, and Red was gonna come up with ten um artists that entered the game in 2005 from California, and AG, and Chubbs isn't not here today, but AG came up with a list of ten relevant artists from New York City that entered the game in 2005.
1:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and there's been like a four-month debate that no one has bring brought their uh material to the table.
1:41
SPEAKER_04: Chubbs isn't here.
1:42
SPEAKER_04: Let me just say this for him.
1:44
SPEAKER_04: Ha! I'm sure he'd fucking appreciate that fuckery.
1:48
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:49
SPEAKER_04: Oh, he's smiling right now.
1:50
SPEAKER_04: Like, yep, yep.
1:51
SPEAKER_04: Shoot me in the fucking head if I ever say some shit like that again.
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SPEAKER_05: Um like I'm fucking 21 now here.
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SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna uh represent uh New York State.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, so not even just New York City just give yourself more room.
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SPEAKER_00: That's cool.
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SPEAKER_05: New York State.
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SPEAKER_05: Red uh has uh pinned me into a corner.
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SPEAKER_05: I had to do a lot of reaching to and I guess it uh kind of proved his point about the relevancy of uh uh New York uh hip hop.
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SPEAKER_05: But um I'm gonna defer and let him give me his uh California cation first.
2:23
SPEAKER_04: Oh no, no, no, no, nigga.
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SPEAKER_04: We ain't starting on me.
2:26
SPEAKER_04: No, I'm fucking with you.
2:27
SPEAKER_04: That's why we start me.
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SPEAKER_04: Alright, so yeah, the the the basic debate which brought this topic on uh was from another conversation that I was having uh where I asked the person I was having the debate with to give me ten artists who entered the game in 2005 or after who are relevant or staples in New York when you think of New York uh hip hop, New York rap, whatever the case is, as being an artist in New York because over ten years, right?
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SPEAKER_04: No, it's a well it would it would be over.
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SPEAKER_04: It depends on when they came in the game.
3:07
SPEAKER_04: Right, right.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but it can't be a good thing.
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SPEAKER_05: We can't use somebody like if we use like the old school dudes, like New York would have a better chance.
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SPEAKER_05: Right, and and that's the point.
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SPEAKER_05: That was the point of bizarre.
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SPEAKER_04: That's just my point.
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SPEAKER_04: I'm talking about people who have come into the game after you know the fathers of New York hip hop, such as the Jay-Z, the Nas, the Biggies, the Big L's.
3:29
SPEAKER_04: You know, you take it to the diplomats with Cam.
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SPEAKER_03: K RS1.
3:33
SPEAKER_04: You know, um, yeah, well, that's like back in the day, KRS one.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, I think there's only two generations of hip-hop right now.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, diplomats diplomats kind of, I was just about to say there's like only like two genres of hip-hop for me, it's like old school and current, but diplomats kind of do fall right in the middle of that.
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SPEAKER_04: Uh Terra Scrum, Fat Joe, Big Pun.
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SPEAKER_04: You had legitimate spitters, you know, and people who are armed armed lyricists.
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SPEAKER_04: Right, and when you say New York hip hop or you rap about New York City, these are the names that people come up with.
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SPEAKER_04: I mean, that's kind of redundant with that with that time era because my thing with that is okay, who has come into the game and solidified themselves for New York after these guys?
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SPEAKER_04: You know, give us the next generation because you're speaking about guys who've been in the game minimum 20 years.
4:28
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
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SPEAKER_04: Minimum.
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SPEAKER_04: So you have people who are 17, 18 years old trying to debate this, and it's like these aren't people of your generation.
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SPEAKER_04: So speak about people of your generation.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and uh I struggled like a lot of first of all, I don't listen to a lot of rap anymore.
4:43
SPEAKER_05: Um because there is none.
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SPEAKER_04: Uh I know you listen to Bachata and but I think it's definitely don't listen to Russia.
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SPEAKER_05: No, no, no, no, no.
4:50
SPEAKER_05: Listen, I don't even eat rice, all right?
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SPEAKER_05: They they try to force feed me that shit in that household.
4:54
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we've had that discussion.
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SPEAKER_04: I don't know how you're from Antigua, sir, which is a Caribbean island.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, still don't like rice.
5:00
SPEAKER_04: You are, and now how long have you and your lady been together?
5:02
SPEAKER_03: Uh supposed to be two years.
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SPEAKER_04: And she's Dominican from Dominican Republic, and you do not like that.
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SPEAKER_03: That's why all of your stories start from two years ago.
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SPEAKER_03: All of my stories?
5:12
SPEAKER_03: Listen, man.
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SPEAKER_03: I uh you know, I'm not gonna get into that.
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SPEAKER_05: Listen, he only started just having sex two years ago.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, there we go.
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SPEAKER_05: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_05: See?
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SPEAKER_05: Genius.
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SPEAKER_05: But um Red, the ball is in your court somewhere in Compton.
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SPEAKER_04: Okay.
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SPEAKER_04: Jokes.
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SPEAKER_04: Um, alright, so this is how we're gonna do this.
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SPEAKER_04: Straight out of Compton.
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SPEAKER_04: You can jot down whoever you're questionable questionable about.
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SPEAKER_05: Okay, cool.
5:35
SPEAKER_05: Oh, so you're just gonna run them off and then we're just gonna run off.
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SPEAKER_04: I run mine off and then we debate.
5:38
SPEAKER_04: I'm just gonna run them off.
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SPEAKER_04: Okay.
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SPEAKER_04: Alright, so when we speak about 2005 and up for California, and we speak relevancy and things of that nature, everyone knows that West Coast mainstream gangster music or West Coast mainstream music, period, if it wasn't Snoop Dogg after the Tupac era, then it really wasn't being pumped.
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SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_04: Like Snoop Dogg was like the main attraction for California, for LA, whatever the case is.
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SPEAKER_03: So after is that accompanied by Dre or no, though, right?
6:22
SPEAKER_04: Well, yeah, I mean, but yeah, Dre had definitely goes without saying.
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SPEAKER_04: Right.
6:25
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
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SPEAKER_04: But you know, so fast forward, we go 2005 and we talk about the West Coast.
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SPEAKER_04: AG said this shit to me last week.
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SPEAKER_04: He says, Oh, don't try to bring the game up, but that's just what it is.
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SPEAKER_04: The game is the first artist who blew on the West Coast after the Tupac um in Death Row era.
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SPEAKER_04: So you have to bring up the game.
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SPEAKER_04: Um when he came when he when he came into the game with uh you know the documentary and went five times platinum produced by Dr.
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SPEAKER_04: Dre.
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SPEAKER_04: Uh, you know, uh you have 50 Cent on there who he was signed to G Unit and stuff like that at the time.
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SPEAKER_05: So the documentary is the the breaking point.
7:08
SPEAKER_04: The documentary is the breaking point.
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SPEAKER_04: Okay.
7:13
SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna use the time against him.
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SPEAKER_04: Okay, that's fine.
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SPEAKER_04: Um after the game, we have Kendrick Lamar, we have Nipsey Hustle, we have Schoolboy Q.
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SPEAKER_04: We have Ty Dollarsign.
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SPEAKER_04: We have YG.
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SPEAKER_04: And I'm gonna bring it up to the Bay Area, we got G Easy.
7:34
SPEAKER_04: We got bringing it back down to uh LA, we got the homie Dom Kennedy, we got the homie Problem out of Compton, going back up to the Bay Area, we got Larry June, new artist coming out of the Bay Area.
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SPEAKER_04: And as far as my producers who influenced the sound and who represent their area and their music, past producers, I'm gonna go with Dr.
8:02
SPEAKER_04: Dre.
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SPEAKER_04: Past producers, I'm gonna go with DJ Quick.
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SPEAKER_04: Past producers, I'm gonna go with uh yeah, what, DJ Battlecat.
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SPEAKER_04: And then currently I'll just go with DJ Mustard, as far as someone who's a representation of the sound of the West Coast and music.
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SPEAKER_04: Um and I'm gonna give you the floor at this point.
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SPEAKER_01: So yeah, the documentary was released January 2005.
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SPEAKER_05: Oh my god.
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SPEAKER_05: So you made it.
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SPEAKER_05: That's literally the first month of 2005.
8:32
SPEAKER_05: Um yeah, uh, okay.
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SPEAKER_05: I I'm gonna just, you know, preface my list with um New York State hip-hop.
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SPEAKER_04: Well, since you said state, I'm like, okay, you wanted to go state, then we go in the Bay Area.
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SPEAKER_04: Of course, yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: Got the whole state.
8:52
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Um California's Bay.
8:54
SPEAKER_03: I am not uh Shit.
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SPEAKER_03: New Jersey count at that point.
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SPEAKER_05: I don't know if I could have gone to the tri-state area, so I kind of stayed in bounds.
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SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna play with the word relevancy, and that's that's what's gonna help New York a lot because we have the ability to use this big metropolitan city, not saying that uh California isn't, but you know, in New York when it comes to hip hop, we have a little bit more cachet than they do.
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SPEAKER_05: So our artists tend to, you know.
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SPEAKER_05: Define cachet, please.
9:19
SPEAKER_05: Um you know it's New York City.
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SPEAKER_05: This is where hip-hop came.
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SPEAKER_05: Is your favorite word?
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SPEAKER_05: Clout.
9:24
SPEAKER_05: No, that's definitely not my favorite word.
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SPEAKER_05: I I used to really like that word before the blacks found out what it meant.
9:28
SPEAKER_05: But um, I really don't think it's not there was there's a Chicago rapper that literally has a hook that says clout lord like five times in a row.
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SPEAKER_05: And he's the guy that ruined it for me.
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SPEAKER_05: I don't even want to give him any shine.
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SPEAKER_05: But um basically uh by cachet, I mean that we, you know, we originated hip-hop, so we get like we get brownie points just for being from New York.
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SPEAKER_05: We have the swag, you know, like you know, California has it has been.
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SPEAKER_03: Novelty has yet to wear off.
9:50
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, exactly.
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SPEAKER_05: Like, I don't think uh like when you think of New York, you think of hip-hop, you know?
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SPEAKER_05: Like that's we so we have that, that cachet.
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SPEAKER_04: Okay, go ahead.
9:58
SPEAKER_05: So, and I'm also gonna play with the dates here of when these artists uh pop.
10:02
SPEAKER_05: You see why you have to play with because I I have to, because there's not a lot of them.
10:06
SPEAKER_05: Like, you're you like I'm gonna like give you the the props because you literally proved your point with just even opening up this argument because I struggled to make this list, and I'm not you know the greatest historian of uh New York hip hop, but I didn't have to for this.
10:19
SPEAKER_05: This was modern, right?
10:20
SPEAKER_05: So it made it even it should have been easier, but it wasn't, and that's the problem.
10:24
SPEAKER_05: So I'm gonna start with uh Ooh, uh Young MA.
10:28
SPEAKER_05: We're gonna start with Young MA.
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SPEAKER_05: Um, she knows she popped with the single Ooh.
10:32
SPEAKER_05: Um, she's not been relevant in terms of critically acclaimed albums as of right now, but she's definitely killing the airwaves with freestyles, and her social media acumen is really on point.
10:43
SPEAKER_05: Uh women are trying to get impregnated by her, which is crazy because you know she's a woman.
10:48
SPEAKER_05: So I'm gonna go with Young MA.
10:50
SPEAKER_05: Um then I got I'd low-key clap that at 3 a.m.
10:56
SPEAKER_04: I'd low-key clap that at 3 a.m.
10:58
SPEAKER_05: Uh then I got uh ASAP Ferg.
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SPEAKER_05: Um, you know, he he dropped with along with his uh partner ASAP Rocky.
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SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna go with the both of them.
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SPEAKER_05: I was gonna throw yams in there, but he's not a rapper.
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SPEAKER_05: Um, so we gotta leave uh him off the list.
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SPEAKER_05: Um then I got uh Nicki Minaj.
11:14
SPEAKER_05: Okay and her teammate, Safari Samuels.
11:17
SPEAKER_05: And that doesn't that counts as one artist, though, right?
11:21
SPEAKER_05: Nah, hell no.
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SPEAKER_04: You're counting them.
11:22
SPEAKER_04: Safari is an individual artist.
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SPEAKER_04: So you're counting him as part of your top ten?
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: New York.
11:27
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, New York.
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SPEAKER_03: Relevant.
11:28
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so it's relevancy.
11:30
SPEAKER_04: So wait, wait, let me get you're you're um grouping Ferg and Rocky together, so those are two separate artists.
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SPEAKER_05: Two separate artists.
11:35
SPEAKER_05: Okay, good.
11:36
SPEAKER_05: Safari Samuels.
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SPEAKER_05: Um he's on Love and Hip Hop, syndicated show, showed all over the country.
11:41
SPEAKER_05: Um he, you know, he's he's lit, his music is really terrible, but women love him for various reasons.
11:47
SPEAKER_05: We're not gonna talk about that.
11:48
SPEAKER_05: And um, yeah, he's he's on television, he has an Instagram following.
11:51
SPEAKER_05: His music is more clowned than anything, but it still gets you know spins.
11:55
SPEAKER_05: You hear DJs drop like.
11:56
SPEAKER_04: Listen, listen, you know what?
11:58
SPEAKER_04: I don't I don't need you to um try to pad this list by the way.
12:01
SPEAKER_04: I'm going to.
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SPEAKER_04: Give me your rundown, and then I'm going to go through your.
12:05
SPEAKER_05: I gotta defend these dudes, man.
12:07
SPEAKER_05: See, this bullshit, because you're defending the bookie, and you're defending Eddie Drop.
12:11
SPEAKER_05: All right, French Montana, 6ix9ine, A-Boogie, May No, and Little Mama.
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SPEAKER_05: I got two more.
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SPEAKER_05: I don't have any producers really.
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SPEAKER_05: French Montana, who else?
12:21
SPEAKER_05: Um, I said it too fast.
12:22
SPEAKER_05: I'm sorry.
12:22
SPEAKER_05: 6'9, A-Boogie.
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SPEAKER_05: 6'9.
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SPEAKER_03: Damn, Uncle Schmurder, too, no?
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SPEAKER_03: A Boogie.
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unknown: Okay.
12:29
SPEAKER_03: Bobby Schmurter, Uncle Schmurder.
12:30
SPEAKER_05: You see, we got the list.
12:31
SPEAKER_03: Um I mean, you forgot you forgot the uh the the people who ended up in jail who can't make anyone.
12:37
SPEAKER_05: I wasn't gonna add uh anybody besides um uh Bobby Schmurder.
12:41
SPEAKER_05: Oh, okay.
12:42
SPEAKER_05: It's an A-Boogie.
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SPEAKER_05: Mm-hmm.
12:43
SPEAKER_05: May know.
12:44
SPEAKER_05: May know.
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SPEAKER_05: Okay, these next uh little mama.
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unknown: Oh, Jesus.
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SPEAKER_05: So can't you put chinks in there for a producer?
12:50
SPEAKER_05: I was nah, I don't know if you're gonna.
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SPEAKER_05: Oh no, because he's out before that, right?
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SPEAKER_05: And uh he he um I don't know if he got enough relevancy because I'm a big argument in relevancy is gonna be like because I was gonna use for some I'm I'm gonna wait actually.
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SPEAKER_05: I'm I don't wanna you know show my hand.
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SPEAKER_05: Um so the next two artists, right?
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SPEAKER_05: They came out in the early 2000s or 99, but they did not pop until 2005.
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SPEAKER_05: Hold on, this you gave me 10 artists already.
13:16
SPEAKER_05: I got more, bro.
13:16
SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna cover, I want to make sure because you're gonna eliminate a lot of these dudes.
13:19
SPEAKER_05: I gotta cover the spread.
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SPEAKER_05: So so I'm gonna go with uh they came out uh they came out in the early 2000s as a group uh called Dipset, but two of the artists were never popping until 2005 and 2006.
13:33
SPEAKER_05: I did my research.
13:34
SPEAKER_05: Uh Jim Jones with Ballin.
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SPEAKER_05: He had an album before uh Ballin came out.
13:38
SPEAKER_05: And it did uh two albums before Ballin came out.
13:42
SPEAKER_05: Okay, but nobody really knew about him until I don't know if it was.
13:47
SPEAKER_04: No, I'm sorry, no, no.
13:48
SPEAKER_04: It was his Hustler's Poem was his second album.
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SPEAKER_03: Diary of the Summer was what?
13:52
SPEAKER_04: No, no, no, no, you're right, you're right.
13:53
SPEAKER_04: He did have two albums out.
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SPEAKER_04: Ballin was his third album Hustle's Poem was his third album.
13:56
SPEAKER_05: So then I got um Joel Santana in 2005 with uh his album in that year.
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SPEAKER_05: Uh the song on there was uh There Go, and that's when uh he became you know successful all around.
14:06
SPEAKER_05: And yeah, so that's my list.
14:09
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
14:10
SPEAKER_04: Now can I shoot on your artist first?
14:13
SPEAKER_04: Sure.
14:14
SPEAKER_04: So let's go, let's go through uh my list and who who are you questioning?
14:18
SPEAKER_05: Okay, so the first person I'm gonna pick pick up is uh Let the feces chucking community Larry.
14:22
SPEAKER_05: What was his last name?
14:23
SPEAKER_05: June June.
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SPEAKER_05: Okay, so does anybody else in this room know who that is?
14:28
SPEAKER_01: No.
14:28
SPEAKER_01: No.
14:28
SPEAKER_05: Okay, so my biggest argument.
14:32
SPEAKER_05: Sack it to me.
14:33
SPEAKER_03: Uh, I'm sorry, yes I do.
14:35
SPEAKER_03: Okay, my biggest.
14:35
SPEAKER_03: Very good movie.
14:36
SPEAKER_03: Music.
14:37
SPEAKER_05: My biggest argument against a lot of these guys is gonna be oh, they might be popping in California, but did they travel?
14:44
SPEAKER_05: Did they relevancy travel to this coast?
14:46
SPEAKER_05: Because a lot of the artists on my list absolutely have.
14:48
SPEAKER_04: It's interesting.
14:50
SPEAKER_04: Everyone that I've named on this list has has done shows in New York.
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SPEAKER_05: Oh, just doing shows don't mean they're relevant here.
14:56
SPEAKER_05: Is there music on the radios here?
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SPEAKER_04: Um Larry June, I don't think he has anything on the radio in New York.
15:04
SPEAKER_05: Does Larry June have a feature by any big artist in uh New York?
15:08
SPEAKER_04: Um, big artists in New York.
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SPEAKER_04: Any of the num any of the names you just don't have to be the names I name.
15:14
SPEAKER_05: It could be an old school dude.
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SPEAKER_04: Uh no, I don't think I don't think anybody in the next one.
15:18
SPEAKER_05: How about the South?
15:19
SPEAKER_05: Anybody in the South?
15:20
SPEAKER_04: South he has uh tracks with currency.
15:23
SPEAKER_05: He's another relevant artist to me personally.
15:25
SPEAKER_05: Excuse me?
15:26
SPEAKER_05: He's another irrelevant artist to me.
15:27
SPEAKER_04: Okay, okay.
15:28
SPEAKER_04: Um but you know what it is is you know he's the independent tip, so a lot of his shit is uh independent.
15:34
SPEAKER_05: So irrelevant enough to be on this list still.
15:39
SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
15:40
SPEAKER_05: You know why you know why I say that?
15:41
SPEAKER_04: Because because Larry June, I want to say within the last two years has erupted, you know, into the artist that he is now.
15:51
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
15:52
SPEAKER_04: So when you talk about someone when I say the word relevancy, okay.
15:59
SPEAKER_04: As far as fan base, interaction with fan base, he has merchandise that sells, he has a whole brand, you know, that he has created and follows him.
16:13
SPEAKER_04: And I look at fan interaction as a big thing because you have people who follow someone just because it's cool or just because they're popular.
16:25
SPEAKER_04: But when you have someone who's trending.
16:28
SPEAKER_04: But when you have someone who's an independent artist who has a fan base in different states, and you see the interaction on their social media with these fans, asking them, oh, come to this sh state, come to that state, things like that.
16:42
SPEAKER_04: It's like, okay, well, he obviously has some sort of uh relevancy in popping.
16:47
SPEAKER_04: Like I said, he's only really popped within the last two years.
16:50
SPEAKER_04: So just give him some time.
16:52
SPEAKER_05: Alright, so problem.
16:54
SPEAKER_05: The only reason I even know this guy's name is when he's um he well he I think he's on a Kendrick song.
17:02
SPEAKER_04: I think he's on a few song he's on a few uh songs.
17:05
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I think that's the first time I heard his name.
17:08
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's that's that's uh problem.
17:10
SPEAKER_05: Okay, um, outside of his features, which I don't disagree with you, I think features can catapult your career, but I don't think they can sustain career.
17:18
SPEAKER_04: Features is essentially what you know kind of got the problem on.
17:22
SPEAKER_04: That's cool.
17:23
SPEAKER_04: He wrote he wrote uh well collabed on a track and Snoop Dogg heard it, and then he ended up working on you know working with Snoop on his album.
17:33
SPEAKER_04: That's kind of what um really got him out there, but then he popped on the uh track, the E40 track function with uh zoo.
17:45
SPEAKER_03: Okay, and uh probably correct me correct me where I'm wrong, but um features is kind of something that's uh some artists do.
17:52
SPEAKER_03: Oh no no, I am saying I don't know one Nate Dog song that's Nate Dog song that he wasn't just featuring.
17:58
SPEAKER_04: Absolutely, but Nate Dog was like one of the only artists who never actually came out with albums.
18:02
SPEAKER_04: That's what I'm saying.
18:03
SPEAKER_04: As far as I knew he had no album.
18:06
SPEAKER_05: I don't think Problem is fucking Nate Dog.
18:08
SPEAKER_05: No, no, no.
18:09
SPEAKER_05: Does Problem have a song that is in rotation in California?
18:13
SPEAKER_05: A song, a single at the moment.
18:15
SPEAKER_04: No, he has uh mixtape that just uh recently dropped or whatever.
18:19
SPEAKER_05: So he's another person that I would probably 86 off your list.
18:22
SPEAKER_05: So let me go up.
18:24
SPEAKER_05: Um okay.
18:28
SPEAKER_05: The list is pretty sound.
18:29
SPEAKER_05: Uh I don't really have a problem outside of maybe School Boy Q.
18:35
SPEAKER_05: Um, he's a big artist, right?
18:37
SPEAKER_05: He I think he peaked, and he's actually in the falling off stage of his career.
18:41
SPEAKER_05: There might be some issues.
18:42
SPEAKER_05: I know uh he was very close to Mac and Mac passed away, and that probably rocked, you know, like he's not.
18:48
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he actually pursued, um, postponed the release of this album.
18:53
SPEAKER_04: Of his album, exactly because uh him and Mac Miller are actually that close, and I believe they had a track together on the album.
18:59
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
19:00
SPEAKER_04: Um coincidentally.
19:01
SPEAKER_04: So that yeah, that definitely really fucked him up.
19:03
SPEAKER_04: I wouldn't say that he peaked at all because every one of his um because every one of his album like alright, let me put it to you this way his studio releases because he was in he was in the game independently, uh first just signing with Top Dog.
19:21
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, once uh the album Oxymoron dropped, that was his first major label um release, and that album went platinum.
19:30
SPEAKER_04: Uh it was Grammy nominated.
19:33
SPEAKER_04: Uh his last album.
19:36
SPEAKER_04: Dag, I forgot the goddamn name of it.
19:38
SPEAKER_05: I don't think anybody knows the name of it.
19:39
SPEAKER_05: And that's my favorite.
19:40
SPEAKER_04: Blank face, blank face, blank face.
19:42
SPEAKER_04: No, blank face was a fucking great album, bro.
19:44
SPEAKER_05: Um, none of the songs are in rotation in New York Radio.
19:46
SPEAKER_05: But that listen, that doesn't mean anything.
19:48
SPEAKER_04: There's only five songs in rotation in New York Radio.
19:51
SPEAKER_03: You have to understand one thing about New York.
19:53
SPEAKER_03: What does that even mean anymore in rotation?
19:55
SPEAKER_04: New York, New York Radio is fucking dead.
19:57
SPEAKER_04: Right.
19:58
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
19:58
SPEAKER_04: New York radio doesn't know shit about anything.
20:02
SPEAKER_04: You had Ice Cube, who back in the day had fucking platinum records.
20:07
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
20:07
SPEAKER_04: Platinum records.
20:08
SPEAKER_04: And not one of his songs was on rot was in rotation in New York.
20:11
SPEAKER_05: I think that's a respect thing, though, because New York doesn't, like just like with um Outcast, they didn't respect their music.
20:16
SPEAKER_05: No, it wasn't.
20:17
SPEAKER_04: It's it's the fact that New York, unfortunately, doesn't really determine what's popping or not.
20:25
SPEAKER_04: New York New York plays what's popping already.
20:30
SPEAKER_05: Okay, yeah.
20:30
SPEAKER_05: So that should be a testament to yo, I'm popping enough that I'm being played in New York.
20:35
SPEAKER_04: They're very they're very selective.
20:37
SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
20:37
SPEAKER_04: It's like a Michelin star.
20:39
SPEAKER_03: It's like selection is only based upon who has the most financial background.
20:44
SPEAKER_03: Nowadays, nowadays it's the record labels.
20:47
SPEAKER_04: Nowadays it's the record labels that's really popping.
20:49
SPEAKER_04: Now, let's put I don't know, and I know of the artist by his name.
20:53
SPEAKER_04: I don't know any of his music.
20:54
SPEAKER_05: I forgot Cardi B on my list, by the way.
20:56
SPEAKER_05: I was gonna ask you that.
20:58
SPEAKER_04: Do you know the artist Russ?
21:00
SPEAKER_05: Russ, yeah.
21:01
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
21:02
SPEAKER_05: Not a single song, right?
21:03
SPEAKER_05: Right.
21:03
SPEAKER_05: But he's cooking.
21:04
SPEAKER_04: Is he playing on the radio?
21:05
SPEAKER_05: Uh I think he had a song on the radio.
21:07
SPEAKER_04: Had a song on the radio.
21:08
SPEAKER_04: A song.
21:09
SPEAKER_04: But he's but he's an independent artist, correct?
21:11
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and he's cooking.
21:12
SPEAKER_04: And he and he fucking packs out places everywhere.
21:15
SPEAKER_04: Right.
21:16
SPEAKER_04: But so I'm saying, does he have a song that's popping in New York?
21:19
SPEAKER_05: Right, the second?
21:20
SPEAKER_05: Absolutely not.
21:20
SPEAKER_05: But at a time he did, though.
21:22
SPEAKER_05: Is Davies on your list?
21:23
SPEAKER_05: No, because I don't uh I can talk, uh I don't even want to talk about David Howells.
21:27
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
21:28
SPEAKER_05: Okay, yeah.
21:30
SPEAKER_04: But so like I'm saying, um I don't forget Cardi.
21:34
SPEAKER_05: I just don't like I don't like her that much.
21:35
SPEAKER_05: That's what it is.
21:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
21:37
SPEAKER_04: But she but you know, she's too many ghostwriters to be uh, you know, too many ghostwriters and no features irrelevant, bro.
21:45
SPEAKER_05: Irrelevant I'm gonna sneak Cardi be and Joey badass on my list.
21:49
SPEAKER_00: That wasn't the question.
21:50
SPEAKER_05: I mean, I got I got people sneak them on, bro.
21:52
SPEAKER_05: Uh but um let let's continue continue into the game.
21:56
SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna start the game.
21:57
SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna start as far as um schoolboy Q know.
21:59
SPEAKER_04: School boy.
22:00
SPEAKER_04: Q definitely has a freaking huge following.
22:03
SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
22:04
SPEAKER_04: His albums do numbers.
22:06
SPEAKER_04: Albums and his albums, his albums do numbers, and his shows are are fucking sold out.
22:12
SPEAKER_05: When when was his last album released?
22:14
SPEAKER_04: Uh Blank Face.
22:15
SPEAKER_04: This is what I want to say 2016.
22:21
SPEAKER_05: Chaos, will you mind uh pulling that up for us?
22:24
SPEAKER_05: Blank Face by School Boy Q.
22:26
SPEAKER_05: And we're about to enter what year, 2019?
22:28
SPEAKER_05: Uh that's not bad.
22:30
SPEAKER_04: And he just, and like I said, he was going to put out his album, but he re he postponed it for after the Mac Miller situation.
22:36
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
22:37
SPEAKER_00: When it was released?
22:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
22:38
SPEAKER_00: July 8, 2016.
22:40
SPEAKER_05: Okay, yeah.
22:40
SPEAKER_05: This guy's just on it with the fucking dates.
22:42
SPEAKER_05: I'm just trying to that's how I thought I was gonna win.
22:44
SPEAKER_05: Beating him with the dates.
22:45
SPEAKER_05: But um the game.
22:47
SPEAKER_05: The game.
22:48
SPEAKER_05: What about um who but outside of the India Love shit, who the fuck gives a fuck about the game?
22:55
SPEAKER_04: Just because Street Cried again?
22:57
SPEAKER_04: Nah, we're not gonna use Street Crate again.
22:59
SPEAKER_04: No, no, we're not gonna I'm not gonna use Street Crate again.
23:01
SPEAKER_04: What was his last album?
23:02
SPEAKER_04: His last album that he put out was 1992.
23:05
SPEAKER_04: Oh, the game.
23:06
SPEAKER_04: 1992.
23:08
SPEAKER_04: Oh, I was like, what the fuck?
23:09
SPEAKER_04: That's the name of the album.
23:11
SPEAKER_05: That was the one where he was dissing me.
23:13
SPEAKER_05: Um can you name the s like what's what hit single was on that off that?
23:18
SPEAKER_04: It was uh colors was one of the like there was a few there was a few tracks on there.
23:23
SPEAKER_04: Um that got spins?
23:25
SPEAKER_04: Well, that's just it.
23:26
SPEAKER_04: Like he really didn't get the way that New York is, you pretty much have to have a song popping in the club for you to for radio to pick it up.
23:40
SPEAKER_04: Radio doesn't pick up music that should be played.
23:43
SPEAKER_04: When I when I go to California and I put on, you know, Power 106 or 93.5k Day, these uh radio stations play present music, past music, and music that you don't hear on the radio every day like you would listen to Hot 97.
24:04
SPEAKER_04: Okay, and and they play the same fucking seven songs because Hot 97 is not gonna play a song.
24:10
SPEAKER_05: They're not break we're not really breaking artists anymore.
24:12
SPEAKER_04: Right, and that's just but that's just it.
24:14
SPEAKER_04: If New York is this mecca and known for whatever, then why hasn't the talent been a broken like that here?
24:24
SPEAKER_04: And there's been no real like sensation that's like shot up to the Cardi B?
24:30
SPEAKER_04: Cardi B but you know what we can we can we Nicki Minaj is an icon.
24:34
SPEAKER_04: Okay, well Nicki Minaj.
24:35
SPEAKER_04: Alright, yeah, I'll g I'll give Nicki Minaj, but I'm saying Cardi B, as far as her um her GMO put together uh packaging.
24:44
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
24:46
SPEAKER_04: Without that backing, without the uh without yeah, without the back end of the the label and without the co-write ghostwriting, do you think she would have been anything anywhere?
24:59
SPEAKER_05: Absolutely not.
25:00
SPEAKER_05: Um so I agree with you on that sense, but the stuff the game is not I don't think the game is a relevant artist in this day and age.
25:06
SPEAKER_05: I really don't think so.
25:08
SPEAKER_04: I think he peaked and I'm talking, but you know what?
25:10
SPEAKER_04: If nine times out of ten, if he's on a tri if someone comes out with a new song and he's on somebody's gonna give it a fucking lesson just because of the name, just because of the name.
25:19
SPEAKER_03: Okay plus his peers, his peer, the people he uh came out into the game with are still relevant.
25:24
SPEAKER_05: Like that has nothing to do with the game.
25:26
SPEAKER_03: 50, I think, has to do with the uh 50 is relevant um outside of music.
25:32
SPEAKER_03: Okay, but we're not talking about 50, we're talking about the game.
25:34
SPEAKER_03: What I'm saying is because of 50's stature, right now.
25:37
SPEAKER_03: No, I think that's relevant.
25:40
SPEAKER_05: Does Young Buck have relevancy?
25:42
SPEAKER_03: No, because Okay.
25:44
SPEAKER_03: Well he what did Young Buck do after?
25:47
SPEAKER_03: I'm using the same exact argument you're using.
25:49
SPEAKER_03: Yes, but after G Unit, what has Young Buck done independently by himself?
25:53
SPEAKER_04: The game just like 50 Cent.
25:56
SPEAKER_04: The game just like 50 Cent, you know, where I'm gonna say that the game is more relevant musically than 50 Cent is at the moment.
26:06
SPEAKER_04: Nah.
26:06
SPEAKER_04: At the moment You know, you don't you don't think so?
26:08
SPEAKER_05: No, because 50 has that.
26:11
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's just doing trailers.
26:14
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
26:14
SPEAKER_05: That's that's the issue with the relevancy argument.
26:18
SPEAKER_05: No.
26:18
SPEAKER_05: Not not at the moment.
26:19
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, exactly.
26:20
SPEAKER_04: Okay, so alright.
26:21
SPEAKER_04: What was his what was 50's last big fucking I'm the man, Chris Brown.
26:27
SPEAKER_05: Doesn't I don't even remember that?
26:29
SPEAKER_05: Doesn't ring a fucking bell.
26:30
SPEAKER_05: That yo, y'all are crazy.
26:32
SPEAKER_05: Doesn't ring a bell.
26:33
SPEAKER_05: I really have to go.
26:34
SPEAKER_05: If you play the melody right now, that's you're gonna know you're gonna know exactly what I'm talking about.
26:37
SPEAKER_05: I'm the man.
26:38
SPEAKER_05: And then he had the song with um Troy Avenue.
26:40
SPEAKER_05: I was I was also thinking about putting him on my list, but you know, this guy, he's bugging out.
26:45
SPEAKER_05: The alleged snitch?
26:47
SPEAKER_05: Nah, okay.
26:48
SPEAKER_05: The alleged.
26:49
SPEAKER_05: I said alleged.
26:50
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
26:50
SPEAKER_05: I'm not trying to shit on him.
26:51
SPEAKER_05: I'm just saying the alleged snitch.
26:52
SPEAKER_05: You don't want to put that on your list.
26:53
SPEAKER_05: I actually think Troy Ave makes decent music, but I just didn't feel comfortable.
26:57
SPEAKER_05: I think Redwood has destroyed uh uh Troy Ave.
26:59
SPEAKER_05: But there's an artist, right?
27:01
SPEAKER_04: So like I said, what did we say by what do we say um beforehand?
27:04
SPEAKER_04: Like I said, don't sit there and necessarily just count record, you know what I'm saying?
27:08
SPEAKER_04: No, no, it's a lot of things.
27:09
SPEAKER_05: So I I moved I moved away from records, move away from records.
27:12
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
27:12
SPEAKER_05: The game had a fucking TV show, like uh, and it did nothing.
27:15
SPEAKER_05: It didn't I didn't even think it it finished the production, I honestly.
27:18
SPEAKER_04: I don't I don't remember he had two for the love of the game, it was the love of the game, and then it was uh basically like a reality show with him and his fiancee at the time.
27:28
SPEAKER_05: Yo, I don't remember you can't even name me what that show was called.
27:30
SPEAKER_04: Um I forgot the name of the show.
27:32
SPEAKER_04: But it was it was a show that was over.
27:35
SPEAKER_05: Nah, I don't think so, because we can name Tiny, T.I.
27:37
SPEAKER_05: and Tiny's hustle, and they have a spin-off show.
27:39
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, because I don't think the game had that cachet.
27:41
SPEAKER_04: Their season had more, I'm sorry, their show had more seasons.
27:43
SPEAKER_05: Exactly, and there's a reason.
27:45
SPEAKER_05: You've never heard that song?
27:47
SPEAKER_05: Come on, yo.
27:48
SPEAKER_05: Y'all, yo, y'all trip.
27:49
SPEAKER_05: Go ahead.
27:50
SPEAKER_05: That song is fire.
27:52
SPEAKER_05: The beat is dope.
27:53
SPEAKER_05: I just then he had the then the fifth, I don't even want to talk about fifth anymore.
27:57
SPEAKER_05: But my point is, I don't think we can use the game.
27:59
SPEAKER_04: But uh I mean listen, when we're talking about resurgence of the whole coast, yes, the game.
28:05
SPEAKER_04: He's the beginning of the year that you dropped exactly 2005.
28:11
SPEAKER_04: Right now, it's irrelevant into the conversation in 2005.
28:16
SPEAKER_04: That was funny.
28:17
SPEAKER_05: That was it.
28:18
SPEAKER_04: But that was even updated now, though.
28:20
SPEAKER_04: But guess what?
28:20
SPEAKER_04: But what I'm saying is still, like, he at the time when he dropped that shit, he was he was fucking headlining on every fucking social media.
28:28
SPEAKER_05: But Red, I promise you right now, if it wasn't for us and 6ix9ine seven months ago, nobody would not be mentioning the game's name right now.
28:38
SPEAKER_05: Maybe you wouldn't.
28:39
SPEAKER_05: No, no, no.
28:40
SPEAKER_05: I said if it wasn't for us right now and 6ix9ine, nobody is mentioning the game right now.
28:45
SPEAKER_05: I don't, yo, I just don't think so.
28:47
SPEAKER_03: But he still falls into the bracket of 2005.
28:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but he's not relevant right now.
28:52
SPEAKER_04: He's relevant, but he's relevant for the shit on my list because I there's a lot of these other things.
28:57
SPEAKER_04: Was that all you had before?
28:58
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
28:58
SPEAKER_04: I wanna I wanna just everybody else.
29:02
SPEAKER_04: Okay, great.
29:02
SPEAKER_05: So wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.
29:05
SPEAKER_05: Let me continue.
29:06
SPEAKER_05: There was an artist that um I struggled to put on my list because I wanted to talk about where did they originate from?
29:11
SPEAKER_05: And it's J.
29:12
SPEAKER_05: Cole.
29:12
SPEAKER_05: Hear me out.
29:13
SPEAKER_05: J.
29:13
SPEAKER_05: Cole is from one of the Carolinas, right?
29:14
SPEAKER_05: Correct?
29:15
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and he became a man.
29:19
SPEAKER_05: He he became a relevant artist through New York, though.
29:23
SPEAKER_05: So I was gonna put him as my blue chipper.
29:25
SPEAKER_05: When you shit it on everybody, I was gonna flip him on the table and debate J.
29:28
SPEAKER_05: Cole.
29:29
SPEAKER_05: So just keep that in mind.
29:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because then you're gonna be able to do that.
29:32
SPEAKER_00: That's kind of the bait with two parts.
29:36
SPEAKER_04: You know what's crazy?
29:37
SPEAKER_04: You know the song when he was talking about back then when I was growing up in Mohammed's crib.
29:43
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
29:43
SPEAKER_04: I actually know Mohammed.
29:45
SPEAKER_04: And where is he from?
29:46
SPEAKER_04: Uh Muhammad is uh, I want to say, I don't know if it's Middle Eastern.
29:52
SPEAKER_04: Well, I don't mean it's racist.
29:53
SPEAKER_05: Like, is he New York or is he from Carolina?
29:55
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he's from New York.
29:56
SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
29:56
SPEAKER_05: So this is why J.
29:57
SPEAKER_05: Cole was gonna be my trump card, but I just threw it out a little early.
30:00
SPEAKER_05: Mm-hmm.
30:00
SPEAKER_05: J.
30:01
SPEAKER_05: Cole?
30:01
SPEAKER_05: But go ahead, go ahead.
30:02
SPEAKER_05: You can look at my list now.
30:03
SPEAKER_04: He always reps Deville, so you know.
30:05
SPEAKER_05: Uh yo, he reps New York a lot.
30:07
SPEAKER_05: He has a song on New York, uh, New York Times, New York State of Mind.
30:10
SPEAKER_05: New York Times, yeah, with 50 Cent.
30:13
SPEAKER_05: Extra, extra read all about it.
30:14
SPEAKER_05: And when does the game appear on people's albums?
30:16
SPEAKER_05: I don't think he does anymore.
30:19
SPEAKER_05: I don't think he does.
30:21
SPEAKER_03: Loves that dead horse.
30:22
SPEAKER_03: Loves being that dead horse.
30:25
SPEAKER_05: That's the only person he can say that because I gotta find out.
30:27
SPEAKER_05: So now let me start off on your fucking list.
30:29
SPEAKER_05: This is gonna be bad.
30:30
SPEAKER_05: Young Emma.
30:31
SPEAKER_04: Ooh.
30:32
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
30:33
SPEAKER_04: Wonderful.
30:34
SPEAKER_04: She had that that one single.
30:37
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
30:38
SPEAKER_04: And yes, she was setting ablaze freestyles on the internet.
30:44
SPEAKER_04: Um I'm gonna let Young Emma rock.
30:48
SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
30:48
SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna let her rock.
30:50
SPEAKER_04: Only because I feel that she still has steam in the engine.
30:59
SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
31:00
SPEAKER_04: Like, she's still she's still uh she's still on the climb.
31:03
SPEAKER_04: You know, she still has to She still has time in the game.
31:06
SPEAKER_04: She still has, you know, time of the game.
31:07
SPEAKER_05: She's still within her 11 over our march.
31:09
SPEAKER_05: I disagree with you wholeheartedly.
31:10
SPEAKER_05: I think her career is over.
31:11
SPEAKER_05: But I'll take the win.
31:13
SPEAKER_04: I think she I think she has at least two more singles in her.
31:16
SPEAKER_05: Oh man, yeah.
31:17
SPEAKER_05: Depends on who she wants to be.
31:18
SPEAKER_05: If you're gonna be this generous, then a lot of these guys are gonna stay on this list then.
31:22
SPEAKER_05: Except Ferg.
31:23
SPEAKER_05: Ferg.
31:25
SPEAKER_05: Ferg.
31:26
SPEAKER_05: Remember his dad made the bad boy uh logo.
31:29
SPEAKER_05: Don't forget that.
31:30
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
31:31
SPEAKER_04: Frazier will do too, man.
31:33
SPEAKER_04: Shouts to Holland, because um his pops, you know.
31:36
SPEAKER_05: Check again, another check.
31:38
SPEAKER_04: Um, but no, no, no, no, nigga.
31:40
SPEAKER_04: Come on.
31:40
SPEAKER_04: I'm pulling back now.
31:42
SPEAKER_04: What does he have out?
31:45
SPEAKER_04: Plain Jane remix, Nicki Minaj.
31:47
SPEAKER_04: Plain Jane remixed.
31:49
SPEAKER_04: And what was his hit before that?
31:51
SPEAKER_05: Um Shaba.
31:51
SPEAKER_05: Shab.
31:52
SPEAKER_05: Shaba.
31:52
SPEAKER_05: Shabah Right.
31:53
SPEAKER_05: And then he had um He had another song that charted, but I can't tell you what it is.
31:58
SPEAKER_05: I don't listen to these dudes, really.
31:59
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah.
32:00
SPEAKER_05: Like I'm gonna be honest with you.
32:01
SPEAKER_05: So ASAP Ferg, I'm gonna.
32:02
SPEAKER_05: You better give me that check, bro.
32:05
SPEAKER_04: I would give you ASAP Rocky over ASAP Ferg.
32:08
SPEAKER_05: Okay, now I think ASAP Ferg's music does better than ASAP Rocky, but ASAP Rocky's persona is bigger than both of us.
32:17
SPEAKER_04: Listen, I will give you ASAP Rocky.
32:20
SPEAKER_04: I'm not giving you Ferg.
32:22
SPEAKER_04: Um, okay, that's fair.
32:23
SPEAKER_04: That's one alright, cool.
32:24
SPEAKER_04: Nicki Minaj, absolutely.
32:26
SPEAKER_04: Easy, easy check.
32:27
SPEAKER_04: Safari kick.
32:30
SPEAKER_04: There is no Nicki Minaj without Safari.
32:33
SPEAKER_04: Understand this.
32:34
SPEAKER_05: How so?
32:35
SPEAKER_05: Um, Ghostwriters?
32:37
SPEAKER_04: Allegedly.
32:38
SPEAKER_05: It's all alleged.
32:39
SPEAKER_04: Because Safari's still Safari came out and said that he never gave her any full.
32:46
SPEAKER_04: Of course.
32:46
SPEAKER_03: Because he's probably on the customer.
32:48
SPEAKER_05: You know she's a late, she has a label that has money and can take him under the shed.
32:53
SPEAKER_04: But guess what?
32:53
SPEAKER_04: If you're contractually bounding.
32:55
SPEAKER_04: And that that was your writing and you're credited for it.
32:59
SPEAKER_04: Guess what?
32:59
SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna tell the truth.
33:00
SPEAKER_05: But Red, what's the ghost part of ghostwriting?
33:02
SPEAKER_05: Because there's accredited writers all over the world, like the dream.
33:05
SPEAKER_05: Right.
33:05
SPEAKER_05: And there's ghostwriters.
33:06
SPEAKER_05: I understand.
33:06
SPEAKER_04: Like Safari.
33:08
SPEAKER_04: But allegedly.
33:09
SPEAKER_04: Allegedly.
33:10
SPEAKER_04: Because what the fuck is Safari put out?
33:12
SPEAKER_05: Not New York.
33:13
SPEAKER_04: What the fuck has Safari put out individually?
33:16
SPEAKER_04: Individually?
33:17
SPEAKER_04: Without No.
33:18
SPEAKER_04: Let me come in.
33:19
SPEAKER_04: Without anybody that has done numbers, that has played on the fucking radio for real.
33:28
SPEAKER_05: Um the song that he did when he came up to um Hot 90.
33:32
SPEAKER_04: No, uh Did it play on the radio?
33:33
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, 105.1, yeah, though.
33:35
SPEAKER_05: Often.
33:36
SPEAKER_05: I don't listen to the radio, but it was on the radio.
33:37
SPEAKER_05: 100 on this.
33:39
SPEAKER_05: I don't know the name of the song.
33:39
SPEAKER_05: It's it's he doesn't make good music.
33:41
SPEAKER_05: He's on loving hip hop.
33:43
SPEAKER_05: He's all loving hip hop, bro.
33:44
SPEAKER_05: That is a syndicated show.
33:46
SPEAKER_04: What's making a memo on fucking this?
33:49
SPEAKER_05: Have you seen her recently?
33:49
SPEAKER_05: Have you seen that?
33:50
SPEAKER_05: Yo, she got a new ads, bro.
33:51
SPEAKER_05: A new ads.
33:52
SPEAKER_05: She's out.
33:53
SPEAKER_05: She's looking great right now.
33:54
SPEAKER_04: Fuck her.
33:56
SPEAKER_04: I'm just tired of seeing him tie it ass titties.
33:59
SPEAKER_04: Fucking recognition.
34:00
SPEAKER_04: The ads, bro.
34:00
SPEAKER_04: She got a new one.
34:01
SPEAKER_05: But yo, I'm not gonna let Safari get taken off so easy.
34:03
SPEAKER_05: Safari's getting taken off.
34:04
SPEAKER_05: Let me defend him one more time.
34:05
SPEAKER_04: Bro, if the game gets taken off, Safari gets taken off.
34:09
SPEAKER_04: But we're talking about relevancy.
34:10
SPEAKER_04: We're talking about relevancy.
34:12
SPEAKER_04: 15 plus million albums.
34:13
SPEAKER_01: Because it's like right now they're both like relevant on Instagram or something like that.
34:16
SPEAKER_01: Oh, the game?
34:17
SPEAKER_05: They're relevant for the same thing.
34:18
SPEAKER_01: It's that gay shit.
34:19
SPEAKER_01: I don't even want to mention that.
34:20
SPEAKER_01: But they do have a social media presence.
34:21
SPEAKER_04: If you're counting game off my list, Safari is getting the fuck up.
34:25
SPEAKER_05: The game is unknown on Instagram for what, KO's?
34:27
SPEAKER_05: I don't want to say it.
34:29
SPEAKER_05: And Safari's known for the same thing.
34:31
SPEAKER_05: He's known for trolling.
34:34
SPEAKER_05: Let us say it.
34:34
SPEAKER_00: Or Dick Print.
34:35
SPEAKER_05: There we go.
34:36
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
34:37
SPEAKER_05: They're both relevant for that.
34:38
unknown: Yeah.
34:38
SPEAKER_05: But Safari also.
34:41
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, Safari's on love of hip-hop.
34:42
SPEAKER_04: Safari leaked his own nudes.
34:44
SPEAKER_04: That's corny shit.
34:45
SPEAKER_04: It's all corn books.
34:45
SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
34:46
SPEAKER_04: That's why he's off the fucking list.
34:47
SPEAKER_05: Fine, fine, fine.
34:48
SPEAKER_04: French Montana, okay, you can keep French in there.
34:51
SPEAKER_04: 6'9.
34:52
SPEAKER_05: You better leave him on the list, bro.
34:54
SPEAKER_05: I don't care how you feel about that dude.
34:55
SPEAKER_02: Especially this year.
34:56
SPEAKER_04: He's on fire.
34:58
SPEAKER_04: He's had that most, he's probably had the hottest 365 days in the calendar year.
35:04
SPEAKER_04: Since who?
35:05
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
35:06
SPEAKER_04: But similar to Cardi.
35:08
SPEAKER_00: But you can add Cardi.
35:10
SPEAKER_04: But he's sitting down now.
35:12
SPEAKER_04: He's going to be sitting down for a long time.
35:14
SPEAKER_04: Cardi and J.
35:14
SPEAKER_04: Coke with me this time.
35:16
SPEAKER_05: God willing.
35:17
SPEAKER_04: He's going to be sitting down for a long time, probably.
35:20
SPEAKER_05: He better snitch.
35:21
SPEAKER_05: If I'm his counselor, I'm snitching.
35:22
SPEAKER_05: They're stupid for trying to snitch.
35:24
SPEAKER_04: So you're going to attach 6ix9ine A-Boogie to the new to the new uh New New York.
35:30
SPEAKER_04: Well, that young MA to the new New York.
35:33
SPEAKER_04: Alright.
35:33
SPEAKER_04: I don't know much about A-Boogie.
35:35
SPEAKER_04: I'm really not a fan of him, though.
35:36
SPEAKER_04: He's he's fabulous.
35:37
SPEAKER_04: He's popping.
35:39
SPEAKER_04: This generation's fabulous.
35:41
SPEAKER_04: I've listened to his songs and all of them kind of sound alike to me.
35:43
SPEAKER_04: Oh, absolutely.
35:44
SPEAKER_05: Have you been to a club lately?
35:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
35:46
SPEAKER_04: Um, yeah.
35:46
SPEAKER_05: And his music is all over that shit.
35:48
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and I'm not a fan.
35:49
SPEAKER_04: No, I hate him too.
35:50
SPEAKER_04: He's sucks.
35:50
SPEAKER_04: I think I think that his music is very much.
35:53
SPEAKER_04: I like his a few of his songs.
35:54
SPEAKER_05: I don't like a single record, but he's on this list for a reason.
35:57
SPEAKER_04: Um.
36:02
SPEAKER_05: Yes, sir.
36:03
SPEAKER_05: Mayno.
36:04
SPEAKER_05: I hate uh.
36:05
SPEAKER_05: Come on, we all had that shirt.
36:07
SPEAKER_05: May know.
36:08
SPEAKER_05: Mayno, man.
36:09
SPEAKER_04: I'm sorry, but when I say when I think of New York, as hard as Maino is as real of a nigga as Maino is.
36:17
SPEAKER_04: Shouts to Maino because.
36:18
SPEAKER_04: Mayno! I've met him personally and I've had conversations with him.
36:22
SPEAKER_04: He's a real nigga.
36:24
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
36:25
SPEAKER_04: He's on loving hip hop.
36:27
SPEAKER_05: Being a real nigga doesn't necessarily equate to being relevant in the hip-hop game or being relevant for when the game was beefing with um Meek and he came to New York to a music video set, he was standing right next to Maino.
36:49
SPEAKER_05: Maino is New York, apparently.
36:51
SPEAKER_04: No, Maino wasn't in the video.
36:53
SPEAKER_05: No, he was there though.
36:54
SPEAKER_05: I don't know if he was in the video, but he was there.
36:56
SPEAKER_04: I was gonna say he definitely wasn't in the video because he shot uh Maino shot on Uncle Murder, and uh who the fuck else was it?
37:05
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, no, no, but he just shot on because he's you know the whole oh the the gang shit and you're riding with this LA nigga and yeah, like whatever.
37:16
SPEAKER_04: But no, I'm sorry.
37:18
SPEAKER_05: So we're gonna remove Maino.
37:20
SPEAKER_05: Not a fan of it.
37:22
SPEAKER_04: Lil Mama.
37:25
SPEAKER_04: Lil Mama.
37:29
SPEAKER_04: Lil Mama, bro.
37:30
SPEAKER_04: This is the best that you can do.
37:31
SPEAKER_05: Um Little Mama.
37:32
SPEAKER_04: This is the best that you can do.
37:33
SPEAKER_04: The one who is in memes to this day.
37:36
SPEAKER_05: Wait, so so wait, memes aren't relevant to you?
37:38
SPEAKER_04: No, no, no, no, no.
37:39
SPEAKER_04: The one who is in memes to this day trying to trying to uh jump in and fo and and photobomb on stage with James.
37:49
SPEAKER_05: Who also had a show that did numbers and where she was judging talent.
37:53
SPEAKER_05: Lip gloss is popping all over New York City.
37:57
SPEAKER_03: Making headlines when she goes to New York City people in jail.
37:59
SPEAKER_04: I actually ran into Lil Mama.
38:02
SPEAKER_04: So you ran into Bob?
38:05
SPEAKER_04: Nah, Shad Moss, no.
38:06
SPEAKER_04: Um, I ran into Lil Mama at uh one of the state correctional facilities when I was on a visit.
38:12
SPEAKER_04: She was, you know, in there visiting somebody.
38:16
SPEAKER_04: And I will say this in person, she's a very pretty girl.
38:20
SPEAKER_05: I don't I never thought she was ugly.
38:22
SPEAKER_04: She's a very pretty girl.
38:23
SPEAKER_04: Um nice eyes?
38:24
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
38:25
SPEAKER_04: You know, like no, like very fucking pretty.
38:27
SPEAKER_04: Like her eyes are fucking nice.
38:29
SPEAKER_04: That shit caught me.
38:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's like it's more apparent in person.
38:33
SPEAKER_05: Oh.
38:33
SPEAKER_05: So she's relevant.
38:34
SPEAKER_01: I thought she's irrelevant.
38:35
SPEAKER_04: She's pretty.
38:36
SPEAKER_05: She's not relevant.
38:37
SPEAKER_05: She's pretty relevant.
38:38
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
38:39
SPEAKER_05: Irrelevant.
38:40
SPEAKER_05: Lil Mama started all these um young, yeah, young girl rappers.
38:45
SPEAKER_00: For real.
38:46
SPEAKER_05: Like, we have like the chicken little soup girl.
38:48
SPEAKER_05: Okay, so when you think of New York, you think of Lil Mama.
38:50
SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
38:51
SPEAKER_05: You think who is the chicken noodle soup girls?
38:52
SPEAKER_05: When you think of New York Taylor, you think of Lil Mama?
38:54
SPEAKER_04: She's on Love of Hip Hop.
38:55
SPEAKER_04: Do you think does Lil Mama ever resonate when you think of New York artists?
38:59
SPEAKER_01: Well, definitely in my high school days.
39:02
SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm saying.
39:02
SPEAKER_01: She was really popping in my high school days, for sure.
39:05
SPEAKER_04: Yo, Red, I'm cheating, bro.
39:06
SPEAKER_04: I'm irrelevant.
39:08
SPEAKER_04: He's using the cheat code.
39:09
SPEAKER_04: Now you know what it is?
39:10
SPEAKER_04: Irrelevant high school because you grew up in the city.
39:14
SPEAKER_04: Like, listen, bro.
39:16
SPEAKER_05: Her lip gloss was cool.
39:18
SPEAKER_05: Her lip gloss was popping.
39:20
SPEAKER_04: No, and I'm sorry, bro, but I'm not giving you Jim Jones and Joel Santana.
39:23
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
39:24
SPEAKER_04: I'm not giving you those two.
39:25
SPEAKER_04: That's fine.
39:25
SPEAKER_04: Jimmy has been rapping since 98 on cameras album.
39:29
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
39:29
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
39:30
SPEAKER_04: Um, and Jimmy.
39:31
SPEAKER_05: He started loving hip hop, by the way.
39:32
SPEAKER_05: Excuse me?
39:33
SPEAKER_05: He started this loving hip hop shoot.
39:35
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he was uh and I'll and I'll give you this.
39:39
SPEAKER_04: As far as relevance, yada yada, like Jim Jones knows how to stay relevant.
39:44
SPEAKER_04: Oh, he's the only one right now cooking rapping wise from you know dips in in some way, shape, or form.
39:49
SPEAKER_04: But Jimmy's been in the game for over 20 years, so no.
39:52
SPEAKER_04: Mr.
39:52
SPEAKER_04: Jones is not.
39:54
SPEAKER_04: And LaRon, no.
39:55
SPEAKER_04: I'm sorry.
39:56
SPEAKER_04: Uh Juwells is not.
39:58
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
39:58
SPEAKER_04: Is not going to be on this list because in 2005 he was already popping with the diplomats.
40:05
SPEAKER_05: Okay, that's 2005.
40:06
SPEAKER_05: Okay, cool.
40:07
SPEAKER_03: He was already popping with the diplomats.
40:08
SPEAKER_03: You can fill in one of those with Cardi B.
40:09
SPEAKER_04: No, I got I got I still got J.
40:11
SPEAKER_04: Cole, Cardi, and J.
40:13
SPEAKER_04: Cole's origin was not New York.
40:16
SPEAKER_05: Regardless if Whoa, he signed to Jay-Z.
40:21
SPEAKER_04: Where was he where is he from?
40:23
SPEAKER_04: North Carolina.
40:24
SPEAKER_04: Okay, where's Tupac from?
40:25
SPEAKER_04: Okay, but I'm not putting did I name did I name him?
40:27
SPEAKER_04: No, but I'm just saying.
40:28
SPEAKER_03: That's what I said is the same argument because his his.
40:31
SPEAKER_03: Guarantee if you go down your list, his hip-hop life started in New York.
40:36
SPEAKER_05: He came to St.
40:37
SPEAKER_05: John's.
40:37
SPEAKER_05: He left, he literally said it.
40:39
SPEAKER_05: He had to leave where he was from to pop musically here.
40:42
SPEAKER_03: Because he was a poet elsewhere, if you remember where he went to school and all that shit.
40:46
SPEAKER_03: Yes, so did Pac.
40:47
SPEAKER_04: So did Pop.
40:48
SPEAKER_04: That doesn't that doesn't negate the fact of where you're really from.
40:51
SPEAKER_04: Corrupt is from Philly.
40:52
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
40:54
SPEAKER_03: I mean, Snoop was the East Coast, but he was West side, no?
40:56
SPEAKER_04: No.
40:56
SPEAKER_04: Snoop was born in Long Beach.
40:58
SPEAKER_04: Was he?
40:59
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
41:00
SPEAKER_04: But no, but Pac Pac was pretty much like the only one that was like.
41:04
SPEAKER_04: Where do we think Michael Jordan's from?
41:06
SPEAKER_05: We we associate him with what though?
41:07
SPEAKER_05: We don't associate him with Brooklyn, no.
41:09
SPEAKER_05: No, we don't.
41:10
SPEAKER_05: People don't associate him with Brooklyn.
41:11
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you're crazy.
41:12
SPEAKER_05: Not to do it.
41:17
SPEAKER_05: What team is he gonna be an educated group of people?
41:18
SPEAKER_05: What team is he holding with Charles Bobby?
41:20
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's what he associates himself with.
41:22
SPEAKER_05: Where did he go to high school or college?
41:23
SPEAKER_04: You went to college in North Girl.
41:25
SPEAKER_05: That's where he's at.
41:26
SPEAKER_05: That's the South shit.
41:27
SPEAKER_05: From Brooklyn.
41:28
SPEAKER_05: That's my point, though, but he's not being claimed.
41:31
SPEAKER_01: When you're born is not always.
41:32
SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
41:33
SPEAKER_05: And that's why J.
41:33
SPEAKER_05: Cole is.
41:35
SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
41:35
SPEAKER_05: Your claim to fame is a different stage.
41:37
SPEAKER_05: Who's J.
41:37
SPEAKER_05: Cole's favorite rappers?
41:38
SPEAKER_05: Nah.
41:39
SPEAKER_05: He's not mentioning these people.
41:40
SPEAKER_04: That doesn't matter.
41:41
SPEAKER_04: When the rapper is?
41:43
SPEAKER_00: I don't think where you're born is just a piece of trivia.
41:45
SPEAKER_04: But what how okay?
41:46
SPEAKER_04: So how old was J.
41:47
SPEAKER_04: Cole when he came to New York?
41:48
SPEAKER_04: College age, so he's 18.
41:50
SPEAKER_04: No, he's he was freaking North Carolina.
41:53
SPEAKER_05: He doesn't get how based on what?
41:56
SPEAKER_04: For the simple fact, like, bro, you waited until college to come to New York.
41:59
SPEAKER_05: When did Pac go to California?
42:01
SPEAKER_04: I'm not saying Pac is from California.
42:03
SPEAKER_04: So you wouldn't say you wouldn't say Pac is a California artist?
42:06
SPEAKER_04: He's not a California artist.
42:08
SPEAKER_04: He reps California, but he's not just Tupac.
42:13
SPEAKER_04: He's repping it.
42:14
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but he's not both, bro.
42:16
SPEAKER_05: Pac is hard to tell.
42:17
SPEAKER_05: No, no, no.
42:18
SPEAKER_05: He's my linchpin in this whole argument.
42:20
SPEAKER_05: It's Tupac Shakur.
42:22
SPEAKER_05: And Michael Jordan.
42:23
SPEAKER_05: Both of them.
42:23
SPEAKER_05: But Tupac's not on my list.
42:25
SPEAKER_05: I understand that.
42:26
SPEAKER_05: But if we were to make a West Coast artist list greatest of all time, you're gonna leave Pacoff?
42:30
SPEAKER_05: You're not gonna leave Paco.
42:30
SPEAKER_05: Don't look at me and tell me you're gonna leave him off.
42:32
SPEAKER_04: It's a little different.
42:33
SPEAKER_05: Nah, it's not, bro.
42:35
SPEAKER_05: It's the same thing.
42:37
SPEAKER_05: Nah, it's the same thing.
42:38
SPEAKER_05: No, it's not.
42:39
SPEAKER_05: Where's Pusha T from?
42:40
SPEAKER_05: Virginia.
42:40
SPEAKER_05: No, he's from the Bronx.
42:42
SPEAKER_05: Is he?
42:42
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
42:43
SPEAKER_05: But he's Virginia to everybody.
42:44
SPEAKER_05: You put okay, you put me on to that.
42:46
SPEAKER_04: Well, how old was he when he went to Virginia?
42:47
SPEAKER_04: I don't I don't know.
42:48
SPEAKER_04: See, here's my point.
42:48
SPEAKER_04: But why does that matter?
42:50
SPEAKER_04: It does matter because you can't say, alright.
42:54
SPEAKER_04: So Jake, if J.
42:57
SPEAKER_04: Cole would have come to New York at like the age of five, ten, I would have given him that.
43:08
SPEAKER_04: Because the experience of growing up in high school, like that's when you're really, really like everybody pretty much remembers their high school days.
43:17
SPEAKER_05: There's people that are gonna tell you it's college, and he came here for college.
43:20
SPEAKER_05: A high school teacher told me you make your best friends in college.
43:22
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
43:23
SPEAKER_05: Your lifelong friends are in college.
43:24
SPEAKER_05: I disagree, but you know, just how you're saying it's high school, there's people that's gonna say it's college.
43:28
SPEAKER_03: You gotta give me J.
43:29
SPEAKER_03: Cole, bro.
43:30
SPEAKER_03: You gotta.
43:30
SPEAKER_03: I don't have to.
43:31
SPEAKER_03: You got to.
43:31
SPEAKER_01: I think you have to because his like that's what you're saying.
43:34
SPEAKER_01: That's what you mean.
43:39
SPEAKER_03: South doesn't mean that people that signed with him were not.
43:40
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but it's not South.
43:42
SPEAKER_03: Jay-Z didn't sign him to Rockefeller or South.
43:44
SPEAKER_03: He signed him to the biggest.
43:45
SPEAKER_03: What I'm saying is it doesn't it doesn't matter who you're signed with to base where you're from.
43:52
SPEAKER_03: I'm saying I agree with you on him being a New York artist because what does he sound like?
43:56
SPEAKER_03: Not even that you can't say that.
43:58
SPEAKER_03: You can't say just from song sound.
44:00
SPEAKER_03: Because it's based off where his popularity started, where his where his craft started.
44:06
SPEAKER_03: Huh?
44:08
SPEAKER_03: Well, not fan base is what's when he's what he's doing.
44:11
SPEAKER_05: When he released his album and New York City basically shut down, there's people leaving their jobs.
44:15
SPEAKER_05: When he dropped his first album, him and Drake were in the Best Buy at uh Columbus Square, I think, buying his his album out.
44:22
SPEAKER_05: He wasn't in North Carolina doing that, or South Carolina, wherever he's from.
44:25
SPEAKER_05: The only thing I'll give you, and it's actually gonna help my uh uh my argument, when he dropped the Forest Hill Drive, there was literally people going to find the house in Forest Hills, New York.
44:36
SPEAKER_05: They didn't realize that it was in North Carolina.
44:39
SPEAKER_05: That's how New York this guy is.
44:42
unknown: J.
44:42
SPEAKER_05: Cole.
44:43
SPEAKER_05: Just because people's ignorance I'ma use it.
44:46
SPEAKER_05: I'ma use it.
44:47
SPEAKER_04: People's ignorance doesn't solidify the fact that he's from North Carolina.
44:50
SPEAKER_05: No, I understand.
44:50
SPEAKER_03: He definitely was born there.
44:52
SPEAKER_03: I mean, when Oregon birth certificates, yeah, he may be from there, but as far as recognition.
44:57
SPEAKER_00: Where his where his craft developed, and you know, you got what I'm saying?
45:01
SPEAKER_00: Where he matured as an adult and all that shit is hot.
45:05
SPEAKER_03: I'm taking J.
45:05
SPEAKER_03: Cole.
45:06
SPEAKER_03: Do you have 10?
45:07
SPEAKER_03: Aside from J.
45:08
SPEAKER_03: Cole.
45:08
SPEAKER_05: Nah, and I gotta add Cardi and uh he didn't they talk about Bobby.
45:12
SPEAKER_05: Which he has a classic record.
45:14
SPEAKER_03: So J.
45:14
SPEAKER_03: Cole, like you said, the reason why you left him last year.
45:18
SPEAKER_04: Who he does?
45:20
SPEAKER_04: That shit is fun.
45:22
SPEAKER_04: You have a cla a classic record, doesn't define like, oh, this is that.
45:29
SPEAKER_05: Like he put New York dancing shit.
45:32
SPEAKER_05: The dancing, there's so many artists that don't even aren't even relevant without a dance, and Bobby Schmurder added that shit to hip hop.
45:39
SPEAKER_04: He added that.
45:40
SPEAKER_04: Bobby had one song.
45:41
SPEAKER_04: I think Diddy did that.
45:42
SPEAKER_05: I'm sorry, I'm not I'm not uh putting him on the list of that.
45:46
SPEAKER_05: So Bobby Schmurder, you don't when you hear Bobby Schmurder, you don't think of New York City?
45:50
SPEAKER_05: He's not relevant.
45:51
SPEAKER_05: People are still waiting for this guy to get out of jail.
45:53
SPEAKER_04: One song.
45:54
SPEAKER_04: When he gets out, let's see what he let's see what he can do.
45:56
SPEAKER_04: Bobby Schmurter.
45:59
SPEAKER_05: It was hot nigga, it was computers.
46:01
SPEAKER_05: You know, it's both of those songs, by the way.
46:03
unknown: Oh, okay.
46:03
SPEAKER_05: So it's not.
46:04
SPEAKER_03: I would judge I would judge a song based off this.
46:06
SPEAKER_03: When that person's music comes on, may it be 10 or 12, maybe just one.
46:10
SPEAKER_03: If you have a nation or city of people that get to the dance floor and get up or want to.
46:16
SPEAKER_03: I get to know about two of those songs.
46:18
SPEAKER_04: So you're gonna give so you're gonna give him uh Bobby Schmerder?
46:20
SPEAKER_03: He ain't gotta give Bobby Schmurter.
46:22
SPEAKER_03: I didn't think he would argue that one.
46:23
SPEAKER_05: The hottest rapper in New York at that point in time, 6ix9ine, went to jail to get a verse from the nigga.
46:31
SPEAKER_03: Schmurter that boy.
46:32
SPEAKER_05: It was politics behind that movie.
46:34
SPEAKER_05: Probably, but I'm gonna use it.
46:35
SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna use it to bolster my argument, though.
46:37
SPEAKER_05: And then I don't even gotta talk about Cardi, you know?
46:39
SPEAKER_05: She's you know, she speaks for herself.
46:42
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
46:43
SPEAKER_05: I think she doesn't speak for herself.
46:44
SPEAKER_05: I think New York won this battle, by the way.
46:46
SPEAKER_04: Nah.
46:48
SPEAKER_03: He did a good job.
46:49
SPEAKER_03: Wait, I wouldn't say one.
46:51
SPEAKER_03: I wouldn't say it was.
46:53
SPEAKER_03: You completed your argument.
46:54
SPEAKER_03: Oh, you completed the conversation, but he definitely ran a low of ten way easier than you did.
46:59
SPEAKER_03: I gotta give you a big one.
47:01
SPEAKER_03: You had to go to North won this battle.
47:06
SPEAKER_05: We got a DJ premiere, I think.
47:08
SPEAKER_05: That's about it.
47:09
SPEAKER_04: He had to go to motherfucking.
47:10
SPEAKER_04: You didn't put Swiss on that?
47:12
SPEAKER_04: Like, okay, cool.
47:12
SPEAKER_04: Swiss beats, cool.
47:13
SPEAKER_04: But oh no, we don't have to do 2005 for producers, you're right.
47:17
SPEAKER_04: That's all we had to do 05.
47:19
SPEAKER_05: You said anytime.
47:20
SPEAKER_05: That's my bad.
47:21
SPEAKER_05: I was focused on the rappers.
47:22
SPEAKER_05: But excuse me?
47:23
SPEAKER_05: Uh if we're gonna do producers, J.
47:25
SPEAKER_05: Cole falls into that too.
47:26
SPEAKER_05: Okay, this nigga struggled for NY.
47:29
SPEAKER_05: Yo, not but other stage.
47:30
SPEAKER_05: But did that did I not say in the beginning of this argument put people in the same way?
47:36
SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna put the whole TD in the net shit.
47:38
SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna put Kendrick, J-Rock.
47:40
SPEAKER_05: Oh, no, no, no.
47:41
SPEAKER_05: J-Rock's relevant.
47:43
SPEAKER_05: I'll fuck with J-Rock.
47:45
SPEAKER_05: He might have had the album of the year if uh other niggas didn't drop.
47:47
SPEAKER_05: Like, but J-Rock definitely has a really good uh work of art.
47:50
SPEAKER_05: I really fuck with him.
47:51
SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
47:52
SPEAKER_05: Um I think uh Absol is one of the greatest lyricists that we have of this generation.
47:56
SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
47:56
SPEAKER_05: So he's never gonna make a hit record.
47:58
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he's just not gonna be that person.
48:00
SPEAKER_04: Um we got what YG in there?
48:05
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, no, no.
48:06
SPEAKER_05: I just think that you proved your.
48:07
SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna say I won this battle, but I lost the war.
48:10
SPEAKER_05: What battle did you win?
48:12
SPEAKER_05: Actually, I ran 10 off.
48:14
SPEAKER_05: Okay, you okay.
48:15
SPEAKER_05: I can make the argument that my 10 are hotter than your 10.
48:18
SPEAKER_05: But I do agree with you that I struggled.
48:22
SPEAKER_05: Like, I nigga, I brought up little mama.
48:24
SPEAKER_05: Like, this is how this is how bad.
48:29
SPEAKER_01: Nah, but he's not furry relevant for the biggest.
48:34
SPEAKER_01: I think you're bringing some ringers.
48:37
SPEAKER_05: The niggas raised us.
48:38
SPEAKER_05: That's New York shit.
48:39
SPEAKER_05: You know you're bringing ringers to the game.
48:41
SPEAKER_05: That guy's 14 to bring.
48:43
SPEAKER_05: It's cool, it's cool.
48:44
SPEAKER_05: Can I bring in some ringers to the game?
48:46
SPEAKER_05: That's AAU shit.
48:47
SPEAKER_05: You know, you're bringing some ringers.
48:48
SPEAKER_05: But um, I I think you definitely won't win the war, though, because New York hip hop has fallen way off, bro.
48:53
SPEAKER_05: I think hip-hop as a genre has fallen off entirely.
48:56
SPEAKER_05: But without J.
48:57
SPEAKER_05: Cole, we don't have a Kendrick Drake, J.
48:59
SPEAKER_05: Cole.
48:59
SPEAKER_05: Like, we don't have like we need a sex.
49:01
SPEAKER_04: Shows to my nigga Fast Lane Fig.
49:03
SPEAKER_04: Shouts to my nigga G Max, shouts to my nigga Baby Easy.
49:06
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, let's get some t-shirts.
49:07
SPEAKER_03: You know, sponsor us.
49:08
SPEAKER_03: We can sponsor it.
49:10
SPEAKER_03: We can go back.
49:10
SPEAKER_04: I can go I can go on, go on and on about up-and-coming artists who's popping.
49:15
SPEAKER_04: You got the homie Kaz who signed to fucking Jay um to J.
49:18
SPEAKER_04: Cole.
49:19
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
49:20
SPEAKER_04: Um, I actually just saw him in in concert a couple weeks ago.
49:24
SPEAKER_04: Um, but you know, you got a lot of people.
49:26
SPEAKER_04: Savvy third coming out of LBC, Long Beach.
49:29
SPEAKER_04: You got motherfucking OT Genesis.
49:32
SPEAKER_04: I could have put I could have put OT in this motherfucker.
49:34
SPEAKER_04: I'm in love with the him and Bobby could have had a good battle.
49:37
SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
49:37
SPEAKER_04: Like more like um I'm sorry, brother.
49:40
SPEAKER_04: I I I think the West Coast, um, I think California has more talent than New York as far as um the people that we named and shit, bro.
49:48
SPEAKER_05: Shit, so does the South.
49:49
SPEAKER_05: Okay, no, the South wins in the last light, in this current generation.
49:51
SPEAKER_05: That wasn't the battle, man.
49:52
SPEAKER_03: No, I know I know.
49:53
SPEAKER_03: I'm just saying so does the South, even though it was I just had to mention it because they are heavy in the game.
49:58
SPEAKER_05: Oh, they are the heaviest in the game.
49:59
SPEAKER_05: Shit, the Migos alone, bro.
50:01
SPEAKER_05: That's just them.
50:01
SPEAKER_05: Like they uh annihilate this list outside of you know Kendra.
50:04
SPEAKER_05: Fucking offset.
50:06
SPEAKER_04: Can I just say that, you know, as a proud member of the Faithful Black Man's Association?
50:14
SPEAKER_04: Offset does not really fit the grain, like black men don't cheat.
50:20
SPEAKER_04: Offset, if you pay attention, is Amigos, and Amigos are Spanish, so black men don't cheat.
50:24
SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
50:26
SPEAKER_01: Um speaking of offset still trying to, you know, win Cardi back, and then he interrupted her set at Rollin Loud, and with like some flowers that said, Take me back, Cardi.
50:39
SPEAKER_01: And he apologized to her offset, which it didn't seem like she was feeling it, to be honest.
50:44
SPEAKER_04: Offset apologize onset, everyone.
50:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
50:48
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
50:48
SPEAKER_01: And you know, she went on social media basically that saying that she didn't want people to bash offset and all this stuff, you know, because you know, a whole bunch of stuff happened on social media this week with a lot of musicians, but we'll get into that later.
51:03
SPEAKER_01: Um, but this topic goes well with um Red's question if he wants to introduce it.
51:10
SPEAKER_05: Which one?
51:11
SPEAKER_01: So people take back partners all the time after being cheated on, which we're not sure if Cardi's gonna do it.
51:16
SPEAKER_01: We all want her to, because like the game posted a video too asking her to put the take 'em back.
51:21
SPEAKER_04: So did fucking pull in favors to everybody to have them post on his.
51:27
SPEAKER_00: I swear he must have because even 50 Step was like, girl, that boy loves you, take him back.
51:32
SPEAKER_05: Because he's fucking up the stock.
51:33
SPEAKER_05: You know, he's bringing down the black man don't cheat mythology, like he's fucking that up.
51:37
SPEAKER_04: Okay, so no, yeah.
51:38
SPEAKER_04: My question, um, yeah, since people take back partners all the time after being cheated on.
51:44
SPEAKER_04: I ain't people.
51:45
SPEAKER_04: Question is question is, can you continue to date someone after they've stolen from you?
51:52
SPEAKER_04: Or does the disrespect have a line?
51:54
SPEAKER_04: So you can tolerate being cheated on.
51:57
SPEAKER_04: Some can tolerate even having can tolerate having hands being put on them.
52:02
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and they still are with this person.
52:06
SPEAKER_04: And I actually sent a uh I believe I sent a tweet to the group the other day.
52:11
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I did.
52:12
SPEAKER_04: Um I was on Twitter, and uh girl said, My friend's boyfriend stole her card and withdrew all her money and stole all of her furniture about three weeks ago.
52:25
SPEAKER_04: Today they're back together.
52:27
SPEAKER_04: That's why this man has countless cases of fraud, attempted robbery, and all the petty crime.
52:33
SPEAKER_04: How do you say that he's a changed man?
52:35
SPEAKER_03: And I like what you added on to that uh your caption to that.
52:38
SPEAKER_03: It was like, and this is why I stay out of people's business.
52:40
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's absolutely everything.
52:43
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
52:43
SPEAKER_03: Because some people go to to the extent of deleting mutual friends and family and shit like that when you have like a slight ult uh conversation or discrepancy or disagreement or discrepancy with anybody, like that that's that's that's a little fall.
52:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, unless I've I've learned a good little reason for that.
53:02
SPEAKER_01: Hashtag dick2 bomb.
53:04
SPEAKER_01: There's a whole song, there's a whole song, there's a whole song out of that.
53:09
SPEAKER_01: That's that's could be a you know one of the main reasons.
53:12
SPEAKER_05: I don't like being objectified.
53:14
SPEAKER_05: Um okay, so uh stealing, stealing, stealing, stealing.
53:22
SPEAKER_05: Steal is very sensitive for me.
53:24
SPEAKER_05: If we're in a relationship, don't they always steal your hoodies and your shorts?
53:27
SPEAKER_05: That's different.
53:28
SPEAKER_03: And your shirt because that's stealing.
53:31
SPEAKER_03: I was about to say, because if you want to count that, because they're also taking your time, too.
53:34
SPEAKER_03: You're giving your time.
53:36
SPEAKER_04: So let's put it to you this way.
53:37
SPEAKER_01: Because what if they take cash out of your wallet?
53:39
SPEAKER_01: Like I used to kind of feel like it's not that serious about it.
53:42
SPEAKER_04: You're you're in the in bed, whatever the case is, you know, you've grown comfortable with this person, you're with them, you're not gonna be aware of it.
53:48
SPEAKER_04: Unless they stealing and selling, you're you're y'all are doing the do.
53:52
SPEAKER_04: Everything is everything.
53:53
SPEAKER_04: You know, regular relationships.
53:57
SPEAKER_04: She leaves.
53:58
SPEAKER_04: You go down, you know, you go back into your room, whatever the case is, and you for whatever reason go to your wallet and you count your money and you realize let's just say you had$300.
54:10
SPEAKER_04: Uh$100 is missing.
54:14
SPEAKER_05: And this is my girl?
54:15
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
54:16
SPEAKER_05: Um she denies it.
54:19
SPEAKER_05: And she denies.
54:19
SPEAKER_05: Oh, then the the lying is the problem, it's not the stealing.
54:22
SPEAKER_04: Um, but but but but don't they both constitute dishonest behavior?
54:26
SPEAKER_04: Uh stealing and lying are the both are both.
54:29
SPEAKER_05: I get I get what you're trying to say, but um it it would more bother the lying in that aspect would bother me more.
54:35
SPEAKER_05: Like if she took that money from me and she was like, you know what, honestly, I didn't have it and you had it and I needed it, I wouldn't break up with her over that.
54:43
SPEAKER_05: It would be a conversation, like, yo, just ask me next time.
54:45
SPEAKER_05: But if she if she took from me and then lied on top of it and I figure out it was really her, then I got an 86er.
54:51
SPEAKER_05: So it's the lying part that really bothers me.
54:52
SPEAKER_05: Okay, and then we're gonna hold that real quick.
54:55
SPEAKER_04: We have uh Casey on the mic who's joining us.
54:58
SPEAKER_01: What's up, guys?
54:59
SPEAKER_01: So to answer your question, Red, I would say it's both, but it's mainly the lying after that would be the problem.
55:05
SPEAKER_01: Because I guess if you're married or you've been together for a long time, you guys kind of have um like I would say not joint accounts, but money, you share money.
55:16
SPEAKER_01: Like your your income is my income, what's mine is yours.
55:19
SPEAKER_01: Um, but definitely I wouldn't like someone to just take money from me without even asking.
55:24
SPEAKER_01: I'd be like, hey babe, you have$20 on the counter gonna have it.
55:27
SPEAKER_01: I'd be like, yeah, sure.
55:28
SPEAKER_04: And so a dude that you're with just blatantly like.
55:33
SPEAKER_01: See, it's I think it's different.
55:34
SPEAKER_04: It's like blatantly takes your phone and fucking cash apps himself 200 bucks.
55:43
SPEAKER_01: Nah, that's that's a no.
55:45
SPEAKER_04: That's a no taking shit just like whatever, like with no That's a no.
55:49
SPEAKER_01: That's a no.
55:49
SPEAKER_01: I think it's it might be I mean, it might be a little a little sexist to say it's a little different if it's a man taking from a woman or a woman taking from a woman.
56:01
SPEAKER_04: But definitely nah, nah, that's a no, that's a no.
56:03
SPEAKER_04: And then the nigga stole it and you didn't realize it.
56:05
SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
56:06
SPEAKER_04: And you just realize like it's missing, but the only two people here.
56:09
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'd be mad at myself for even being with someone that would do this to me.
56:14
SPEAKER_01: Because like you're supposed to be a good judge of character, and like if you're with someone who would even do things like that, like there's something wrong with you too.
56:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I would say I agree with you.
56:25
SPEAKER_01: I agree with you, Red, that all that is a problem and the relationship would be over right then and there.
56:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
56:31
SPEAKER_04: I don't know if I could ever really trust you again if you steal from me.
56:34
SPEAKER_01: Like, no, of course it's done.
56:36
SPEAKER_01: Like, that's it.
56:37
SPEAKER_04: You know, and even even cheating or whatever, like, you know, I I can say I've been I've been cheated on.
56:45
SPEAKER_04: It is what it is.
56:46
SPEAKER_04: Um like most people.
56:48
SPEAKER_01: Um I think everyone's been cheated on at some point.
56:50
SPEAKER_01: You just don't always find out.
56:51
SPEAKER_05: I've never been cheated on.
56:52
SPEAKER_05: I only have one relationship.
56:53
SPEAKER_01: Oh, well.
56:54
SPEAKER_05: Where's she at right now?
56:56
SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
56:58
SPEAKER_05: No way.
56:59
SPEAKER_05: And I'll do that.
57:00
SPEAKER_05: Just playing bring, just playing bring.
57:03
SPEAKER_00: You know, you're faithful.
57:04
SPEAKER_04: When this when this nigga got his car back, his passenger seat was reclined.
57:10
SPEAKER_00: Who's in there?
57:11
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I know.
57:11
SPEAKER_00: Who's here?
57:13
SPEAKER_00: My brother was sitting here, this motherfucker.
57:15
SPEAKER_00: Yup.
57:16
SPEAKER_00: Oh, you were still.
57:22
SPEAKER_01: Like, they be sitting mad low, mad to the back.
57:24
SPEAKER_01: Like, damn, I don't get how people thought y'all said.
57:27
SPEAKER_05: They got a game going on.
57:28
SPEAKER_05: I see.
57:29
SPEAKER_05: Listen, I'll keep getting it.
57:30
SPEAKER_04: Don't don't don't be that don't be that nigga who freaking asked the ball, shorty car, and then riding around with other bitches in it.
57:37
SPEAKER_04: Forget to put the seat back.
57:38
SPEAKER_04: You gotta put the seat back then.
57:40
SPEAKER_04: There was this.
57:40
SPEAKER_04: I forgot to do that.
57:41
SPEAKER_04: Well, she don't listen to that podcast, but I'm still not gonna say anything.
57:45
SPEAKER_04: Um we were we were talking one day.
57:48
SPEAKER_01: Yes, let's keep it all uh anonymous.
57:49
SPEAKER_04: And she was telling me about she was telling me about how she let me know.
57:54
SPEAKER_01: No, but people need consent sometimes.
57:56
SPEAKER_04: She um let the dude that she was dating use her car and when he brought it back It was it was like he had washed it, vacuumed it out, and the whole nine.
58:10
SPEAKER_04: But whoever whoever the um girl was that was in the passenger seat, when the seat belt went back, it like snagged some of her hair, I guess.
58:20
SPEAKER_04: And that's what she found in the car.
58:22
SPEAKER_04: She found um she found the hair there.
58:26
SPEAKER_00: Jeez.
58:27
SPEAKER_04: Wow.
58:27
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it was a wrap.
58:29
SPEAKER_01: Wow, wow, wow.
58:31
SPEAKER_04: Cheating.
58:32
SPEAKER_04: So you're crazy.
58:33
SPEAKER_04: So you say, okay, so cheat so cheating is crazy.
58:36
SPEAKER_01: There's so many different ways you can find someone cheating.
58:39
SPEAKER_05: But uh stealing is no good.
58:41
SPEAKER_05: Nah, quick st uh steal uh cheating is not questionable.
58:44
SPEAKER_01: What do you think is worse?
58:44
SPEAKER_01: Stealing or cheating?
58:46
SPEAKER_01: Like uh like character-wise.
58:48
SPEAKER_01: Stealing.
58:49
SPEAKER_05: Cheating.
58:49
SPEAKER_01: I think stealing.
58:50
SPEAKER_01: I think stealing.
58:52
SPEAKER_01: I think stealing is a little bit more just people think with their dicks.
58:56
SPEAKER_01: I'm broke more malicious.
58:59
SPEAKER_03: I gotta eat.
58:59
SPEAKER_04: But nah, it's more than that.
59:02
SPEAKER_03: Everybody's a little different.
59:03
SPEAKER_03: We got klepto thieves, we have some people who steal because they may have a bad habit, like a drug habit.
59:09
SPEAKER_03: Like you said, another one could be because they're hungry and they're broke.
59:12
SPEAKER_03: Can you defend cheating?
59:13
SPEAKER_03: But but it it can't be stealing if you have a companion and you can defend cheating.
59:17
SPEAKER_01: Like what if your wife beats you and you find comfort in another woman?
59:21
SPEAKER_03: Is it still considered stealing?
59:22
SPEAKER_01: What if you're married and you have children and you want to stay for the children?
59:30
SPEAKER_03: Now, if the partner never asked about that money, is it still considered cheating, uh stealing?
59:34
SPEAKER_04: No, absolutely.
59:35
SPEAKER_04: And but if um If the tree falls in the forest and nobody hears it, is it still making noise?
59:39
SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
59:39
SPEAKER_05: So my own.
59:40
SPEAKER_05: Yes, it does.
59:40
SPEAKER_05: The animals here.
59:42
SPEAKER_05: Oh, you're the type of dude that I don't want to ask questions to.
59:46
SPEAKER_05: Or if you if I would have asked you for this money, you would have said no.
59:49
SPEAKER_05: Or if I would have asked you for this money, you would have beat me over the head.
59:51
SPEAKER_05: Like this, I can find a logical reason for why you had to steal.
59:54
SPEAKER_05: But I can't find a logical reason for why you had to cheat.
59:56
SPEAKER_05: You just leave.
59:59
SPEAKER_05: You can just ask for money though.
1:00:00
SPEAKER_05: No, no, absolutely.
1:00:01
SPEAKER_01: I'm trying to understand, I'm really trying to understand that logic.
1:00:04
SPEAKER_05: No, no, I get it.
1:00:04
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
1:00:05
SPEAKER_05: If I'm not sure.
1:00:06
SPEAKER_01: It's a logical reason for stealing.
1:00:08
SPEAKER_05: If I'm scared of my spouse, I know if I ask this dude for this money, he's gonna punch me in the face, but I need this money so I can't.
1:00:13
SPEAKER_05: But that's not the argument.
1:00:14
SPEAKER_05: That's not the argument.
1:00:15
SPEAKER_05: I'll change my argument.
1:00:17
SPEAKER_05: No, no, I understand that.
1:00:18
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, why wouldn't you leave and send me a big deal?
1:00:20
SPEAKER_05: No, but it's fine.
1:00:20
SPEAKER_05: But the argument is not about whether or not this person's gonna stay with abuse.
1:00:24
SPEAKER_05: Exactly, it's death.
1:00:25
SPEAKER_05: Like people will stay with abuse.
1:00:26
SPEAKER_05: But give me a logical explanation for cheating that doesn't result in, hey, you could have just left me.
1:00:31
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:00:33
SPEAKER_04: Because the nigga doesn't eat her ass.
1:00:35
SPEAKER_05: Then find a nigga that'll eat her ass.
1:00:37
SPEAKER_05: Like she can leave and find that.
1:00:38
SPEAKER_05: It's not like that doesn't exist.
1:00:40
SPEAKER_01: That's true.
1:00:43
SPEAKER_01: There's plenty of fish in the sea.
1:00:44
SPEAKER_01: Well, they say that, but I don't think it's that easy.
1:00:46
SPEAKER_04: You can't sit there and say, Oh, you you can't think of a logical reason as to why people don't cheat.
1:00:51
SPEAKER_04: I listen.
1:00:52
SPEAKER_04: Just give me one.
1:00:53
SPEAKER_04: You have you have I'm black.
1:00:56
SPEAKER_04: You got really drunk one night.
1:00:57
SPEAKER_04: I know women who have cheated just because another dude has given them more attention.
1:01:01
SPEAKER_04: Then leave.
1:01:02
SPEAKER_04: Find a nigga that's gonna give you attention.
1:01:04
SPEAKER_04: But what I'm saying is, but they still like you too.
1:01:06
SPEAKER_04: I'm saying this, you can you can do uh like you know what I'm saying, like oh, they're indecisive or whatever they can.
1:01:10
SPEAKER_03: Don't act like people's relationships aren't financially bounded nowadays, too.
1:01:14
SPEAKER_03: And that's a lot of people are together.
1:01:17
SPEAKER_04: Especially yeah, when you live together.
1:01:19
SPEAKER_04: Because they need somebody to split motherfucking$1,200 a month.
1:01:24
SPEAKER_05: Why we gotta be in a relationship?
1:01:25
SPEAKER_05: Why we can't be roommates?
1:01:26
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we don't work like that.
1:01:28
SPEAKER_03: A person like that in one person's mind, but the other person who may have a bigger one.
1:01:31
SPEAKER_03: Nah, yeah, what if you in a one bedroom?
1:01:32
SPEAKER_03: What are you gonna do?
1:01:36
SPEAKER_03: No.
1:01:36
SPEAKER_05: Also, they were just fucking to be in room and bored.
1:01:39
SPEAKER_05: That's not really a relationship, is it?
1:01:40
SPEAKER_05: What?
1:01:41
SPEAKER_05: Just having sex with a person for room and bored?
1:01:43
SPEAKER_05: That's a relationship?
1:01:44
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's a lot of people do that.
1:01:46
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
1:01:47
SPEAKER_05: A lot of people it's a slip of the thing.
1:01:48
SPEAKER_01: A lot of people like like each other, fall in love, and then like I think it's like after a year, it's like complacent lovers or something like that.
1:01:56
SPEAKER_01: Like you're just used to it and you stay just because you've been together for so long.
1:02:00
SPEAKER_01: So if you leave, you feel like it's like an investment.
1:02:03
SPEAKER_01: Like if you're with someone for eight years and you're never married and you live together, you feel like you but basically lost eight years of your life.
1:02:11
SPEAKER_01: Because what did you come out of that relationship with?
1:02:13
SPEAKER_04: A lesson learned.
1:02:14
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's a good Well, they took your good years.
1:02:16
SPEAKER_05: Well, you go to the case and you learn a lot of lessons in school too.
1:02:20
SPEAKER_05: Same shit.
1:02:20
SPEAKER_01: But I I don't think it's wasted time.
1:02:21
SPEAKER_03: Like it's you are late to school thing because it's not like someone's gonna take your s your your degree after um like Yeah, you learned the lessons, just like in a relationship.
1:02:30
SPEAKER_05: You don't nobody can take the lessons you learned.
1:02:32
SPEAKER_01: No, and I'm saying you enjoyed that time at home.
1:02:35
SPEAKER_01: Apparently, for eight years, so it's not like Why if you learned?
1:02:38
SPEAKER_03: It's not the the process of learning.
1:02:40
SPEAKER_03: You would rather skip that lesson and just had a happy life because you thought you picked the right person.
1:02:45
SPEAKER_03: So the losses only comes from you thinking that you made a mistake.
1:02:51
SPEAKER_01: I think people just look for lessons as a way to like lessen the pain and psychic reference.
1:02:57
SPEAKER_01: Like it's true.
1:03:01
SPEAKER_05: If you learn from something, it's not L there.
1:03:03
SPEAKER_05: That's true.
1:03:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:03:06
SPEAKER_05: So yeah, I'm gonna just say I think stealing is not a end all be all, but cheating definitely is for me personally.
1:03:13
SPEAKER_01: I think both are, but stealing is worse.
1:03:15
SPEAKER_04: If you had uh I think depending on what a person stole from you, your your whole outlook would change on that.
1:03:21
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
1:03:22
SPEAKER_01: It's just you I don't know.
1:03:24
SPEAKER_01: You just died because if they're able to do that, like you grimy, like you will grimy, like there's different cheating and being grimy, like that's real grimy, yeah.
1:03:32
SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm saying.
1:03:33
SPEAKER_05: Unless there's some like extenuating circumstances, like the men in the room, would you rather be cheated on or stolen from?
1:03:39
SPEAKER_05: Because I think women have a different perspective.
1:03:41
SPEAKER_03: I think they're really on the same level playing field.
1:03:44
SPEAKER_05: Okay, cool.
1:03:44
SPEAKER_05: How about you rather?
1:03:45
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I think they're very similar.
1:03:46
SPEAKER_04: I think that there's anyone that's better.
1:03:50
SPEAKER_05: But what would you rather happen to be?
1:03:52
SPEAKER_04: That's like asking me if I'd rather live in Brownsville or East New York, nigga.
1:03:55
SPEAKER_05: Like there's no fucking.
1:03:57
SPEAKER_05: Nah, nah, it isn't.
1:03:58
SPEAKER_05: There's not this one that's not better than you.
1:03:59
SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna go with Brownsville.
1:04:00
SPEAKER_05: I think it's uh it's coming up a little bit.
1:04:02
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know.
1:04:03
SPEAKER_05: Judrification is happening faster in Brownsville.
1:04:06
SPEAKER_03: Coming up in this world, I was always told you can hide your shit from a thief, but you can't.
1:04:10
SPEAKER_03: Uh what do you hide from a liar?
1:04:12
SPEAKER_03: So it depends on how you look at it.
1:04:14
unknown: Okay.
1:04:15
SPEAKER_04: Like I said, they're both things.
1:04:16
SPEAKER_04: We consider them both liars, though.
1:04:17
SPEAKER_05: They're both dishonest behaviors.
1:04:18
SPEAKER_05: A thief is a yeah, there's dishonesty in both things.
1:04:22
SPEAKER_05: There's an honest thief somewhere.
1:04:24
SPEAKER_01: But some thieves are bad liars, so we've seen old shit.
1:04:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there could be that.
1:04:27
SPEAKER_05: Doesn't mean you're a good liar if you're a thief.
1:04:31
SPEAKER_01: If you got caught, you're obviously a bad thief.
1:04:32
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
1:04:33
SPEAKER_04: Uh so does cheating happen if you get caught?
1:04:37
SPEAKER_01: A terrible person.
1:04:38
SPEAKER_04: Of course it happens.
1:04:39
SPEAKER_04: Okay, cool.
1:04:39
SPEAKER_04: Um I don't know.
1:04:40
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's the thing.
1:04:41
SPEAKER_01: You have to find it.
1:04:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's the that's the whole thing.
1:04:44
SPEAKER_01: You don't really have to.
1:04:45
SPEAKER_01: If you don't find out about it, then it's technically not cheating in your mind because you don't know about it.
1:04:49
SPEAKER_04: If I really had to choose between rather being stolen from or cheated on.
1:04:56
SPEAKER_04: I'd rather be cheated on me, bitch, because you steal some shit that I really fucking.
1:05:01
SPEAKER_04: That you earned.
1:05:02
SPEAKER_04: Like, you know what I'm saying?
1:05:04
SPEAKER_04: I agree with you.
1:05:05
SPEAKER_04: It's like, wow, bitch, like you really you stole from me.
1:05:09
SPEAKER_01: That's my money you and my clothes.
1:05:11
SPEAKER_04: You gave the pussy away, but you stole from me.
1:05:15
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
1:05:16
SPEAKER_01: Stealing is way more than that.
1:05:17
SPEAKER_01: I'm cool with that.
1:05:18
SPEAKER_01: That's my favorite.
1:05:18
SPEAKER_01: Especially if we steal my clothes, then we're that whole nothing.
1:05:21
SPEAKER_01: We fight after that, bro.
1:05:22
SPEAKER_04: Listen, because it's certain possessions that you have are irreplaceable.
1:05:26
SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
1:05:27
SPEAKER_04: Sentimental-wise.
1:05:28
SPEAKER_04: So someone may be looking at, you know, and money is harder to get.
1:05:39
SPEAKER_04: Someone else is just looking at looking at it as a motherfucking uh as a fucking um dollar sign.
1:05:45
SPEAKER_04: Like, oh damn, like I can go get X amount for this.
1:05:47
SPEAKER_04: Cool.
1:05:48
SPEAKER_04: Boom.
1:05:49
SPEAKER_04: But yeah, it may not have to be.
1:05:50
SPEAKER_01: It can be something your deceased father gave you.
1:05:53
SPEAKER_04: It was worth so much more to me than just the monetary stick.
1:05:57
SPEAKER_01: And you can get it back, just like some things you can replace.
1:06:02
SPEAKER_05: Box is replaceable.
1:06:03
SPEAKER_05: You can go to the pawn st you can go to the pawn stop and get it right back if she sold it to a pawn shop.
1:06:08
SPEAKER_01: I've thought of that because I've had people sold from me and I've checked in the in the pawn shops nearby and I'm because there's like photos I can never get back and shit.
1:06:15
SPEAKER_01: Like it's fucked up.
1:06:17
SPEAKER_05: All those dick pics are gone, huh?
1:06:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they're all gone.
1:06:20
SPEAKER_01: What am I gonna do?
1:06:21
SPEAKER_01: Speaking about faithful, this goes to the city.
1:06:25
SPEAKER_01: Your next topic, Rid.
1:06:26
SPEAKER_04: Fuck Tumblr.
1:06:28
SPEAKER_01: I like Ridd's topics.
1:06:30
SPEAKER_04: Actually, I want to get on a Kanye and Drake thing.
1:06:34
SPEAKER_01: Hmm.
1:06:34
SPEAKER_01: Well, me and you can attest to Kanye's state of mind.
1:06:37
SPEAKER_04: Facts.
1:06:38
SPEAKER_00: Okay, okay.
1:06:38
SPEAKER_00: So we could.
1:06:39
SPEAKER_00: So we can run around.
1:06:40
SPEAKER_04: That nigga's off his rocker.
1:06:41
SPEAKER_04: That's what we're talking about.
1:06:42
SPEAKER_00: My topic.
1:06:42
SPEAKER_01: He's off his med.
1:06:43
SPEAKER_01: He's off his top.
1:06:44
SPEAKER_01: That's what it is.
1:06:45
SPEAKER_04: Well, he's yeah, he is.
1:06:46
SPEAKER_04: He did say that he's off his meds.
1:06:47
SPEAKER_04: I think rocker's.
1:06:48
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he said for six months.
1:06:49
SPEAKER_04: Red's also off his meds.
1:06:50
SPEAKER_01: That's a long time.
1:06:51
SPEAKER_01: That's a long time.
1:06:52
SPEAKER_01: I I had a couple questions on it, so you could just address the ones that you want to, but one thing I wanted to talk about was do you think there would be no Drake without Kanye?
1:07:00
SPEAKER_01: That's one thing.
1:07:01
SPEAKER_04: Can we give the back the backdrop of the story real quick?
1:07:05
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
1:07:06
SPEAKER_01: So on Twitter, Kanye went on a tweeting storm.
1:07:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
1:07:13
SPEAKER_01: Talking about Trey, that he threatened his family.
1:07:16
SPEAKER_01: He's definitely that he didn't tell yeah, that he didn't.
1:07:19
SPEAKER_01: His tweets were very repetitive too.
1:07:21
SPEAKER_01: Like he said a lot of the same things twice.
1:07:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that he didn't tell Pusha T about his kid.
1:07:27
SPEAKER_05: It's blank.
1:07:28
SPEAKER_05: That was one of the tweets.
1:07:29
SPEAKER_05: It's pretty funny.
1:07:30
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:07:33
SPEAKER_01: It was just a lot, a lot, a lot of stuff.
1:07:34
SPEAKER_01: And Drake, to be honest, he, you know, the only thing that he responded with was the laughing emojis on stuff.
1:07:39
SPEAKER_04: And apparently he called him.
1:07:40
SPEAKER_04: Allegedly.
1:07:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:07:42
SPEAKER_01: And even, you know, Kim hopped in, like, don't threaten my family.
1:07:45
SPEAKER_01: There would be no no Drake without Kanye.
1:07:48
SPEAKER_01: I agree.
1:07:48
SPEAKER_04: So the so the threats as far as uh the statement as far as don't threaten my family.
1:07:54
SPEAKER_04: What does that mean?
1:07:54
SPEAKER_04: Like, where did that come from?
1:07:55
SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm saying.
1:07:55
SPEAKER_01: What was the threat?
1:07:56
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
1:07:58
SPEAKER_01: The reason is vague about it.
1:07:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't really believe Drake did that because he doesn't seem like the type of person to threaten.
1:08:06
SPEAKER_01: But we don't know.
1:08:07
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
1:08:07
SPEAKER_01: We don't know.
1:08:09
SPEAKER_04: As many times as I've listened to the song, I never listened to the words in depth.
1:08:15
SPEAKER_04: But listen to sicko mode, listen to Drake's verse.
1:08:17
SPEAKER_04: It's all subs towards Kanye.
1:08:21
SPEAKER_04: Because they live in the same fucking Hidden Hills neighborhood in Calabasas, and they live like less than a half mile between each other.
1:08:30
SPEAKER_01: Really?
1:08:31
SPEAKER_01: That's really fucking close.
1:08:32
SPEAKER_04: Right.
1:08:33
SPEAKER_04: It's they all like that there's a lot of them who live in that community.
1:08:37
SPEAKER_04: Game lives in that community too.
1:08:38
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
1:08:39
SPEAKER_04: That doesn't make it relevant.
1:08:41
SPEAKER_04: Game, Kanye, Drake.
1:08:44
SPEAKER_04: Does Tiger live there?
1:08:46
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
1:08:46
SPEAKER_04: Um the Kardashians, I know.
1:08:48
SPEAKER_04: Like they're not going to be able to do it.
1:08:51
SPEAKER_04: Like that's a that's a very, you know, wealthy area.
1:08:55
SPEAKER_04: I would imagine.
1:08:56
SPEAKER_04: So if yeah, if you listen to the lyrics on sicko mode, you can hear where you know you had subtle shots uh talking about, you know, where a person lives and tuck, you know, turn the corner.
1:09:07
SPEAKER_04: Like you know what I'm saying?
1:09:08
SPEAKER_04: Like it's all very suggestive to you know that's where Kanye is, I believe.
1:09:13
SPEAKER_01: Because it's true, I never listened to the lyrics like in depth, like actually like trying to figure out what he's trying to say.
1:09:18
SPEAKER_04: You can pull him up on Genius right now and just skim over.
1:09:20
SPEAKER_05: I couldn't even tell you what that song sounded like if you played it right now, to be honest.
1:09:23
SPEAKER_04: Oh, like a light.
1:09:24
SPEAKER_04: Hey, oh yeah, I definitely know that songs.
1:09:26
SPEAKER_01: That's mainly what I remember from it.
1:09:27
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:09:27
SPEAKER_04: But I'm saying if you listen to Drake's verse, just just pull up the lyrics.
1:09:31
SPEAKER_05: Can I give you a sidebar real fast?
1:09:32
SPEAKER_05: I think Drake is so big that I don't know the names of his songs, but you see how you gave me like three words, yeah, and I know the whole song.
1:09:41
SPEAKER_05: I don't ever know the name of the.
1:09:42
SPEAKER_01: No, there's a lot.
1:09:43
SPEAKER_01: He has too many, he has so many songs.
1:09:47
SPEAKER_01: No, he's gonna be like written down as like the greatest artist of all time.
1:09:50
SPEAKER_01: Fuck Drake.
1:09:51
SPEAKER_01: So further back to your, do you think there would be no Drake without the biggest?
1:09:55
SPEAKER_01: I would say the biggest.
1:09:56
SPEAKER_01: And why?
1:09:57
SPEAKER_01: I know, uh me and Reddit.
1:10:00
SPEAKER_01: I don't know enough about the industry to say that.
1:10:02
SPEAKER_04: Um I think it's let me see.
1:10:05
SPEAKER_01: Because who signed Drake?
1:10:06
SPEAKER_01: Wasn't it Lil Wayne?
1:10:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because that's what it says Wheezy F Made Me.
1:10:10
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so I would say there'd be no Drake without Lil Wiggs.
1:10:14
SPEAKER_01: I don't know about Kanye.
1:10:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, man.
1:10:16
SPEAKER_01: Sicko mode.
1:10:16
SPEAKER_04: Sicko Moe.
1:10:18
SPEAKER_04: Said back in high school used to bust us to the dance.
1:10:21
SPEAKER_04: Now I hit the FBO with duffels in my hands, and I was like that part of whatever.
1:10:26
SPEAKER_04: So then it says, uh Let me see.
1:10:31
SPEAKER_04: I still got scores to settle, man.
1:10:34
SPEAKER_04: I crept down the block, made a right, cut the lights, paid the price.
1:10:40
SPEAKER_04: Niggas think it's sweet, it's on site.
1:10:44
SPEAKER_04: Nothing nice, but gets in my ice.
1:10:47
SPEAKER_04: Jesus Christ checks over stripes.
1:10:50
SPEAKER_04: That's what I like.
1:10:52
SPEAKER_04: That's what we like.
1:10:53
SPEAKER_04: Lost my respect.
1:10:55
SPEAKER_04: You not a threat.
1:10:56
SPEAKER_04: When I shoot my shot, that shit wetty like I'm check.
1:11:00
SPEAKER_04: See all the shots that I took, wet like I'm booked, wet like I'm Lizzie.
1:11:06
SPEAKER_04: I be spinning valley, circle blocks till I'm dizzy.
1:11:11
SPEAKER_02: Like we're Izzy.
1:11:13
SPEAKER_04: I'm trying to clean up.
1:11:15
SPEAKER_04: So you see what I'm talking about?
1:11:19
SPEAKER_04: No one really listened to the lyrics.
1:11:21
SPEAKER_01: And that's one thing that he was like, I bet there's not gonna be no checked over.
1:11:25
SPEAKER_01: Tribex lyrics, not a private song.
1:11:27
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
1:11:30
SPEAKER_01: But you would have to know that piece of information that they live so close by to really understand to connect the dots.
1:11:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because now that I know that, I'm like, oh yeah.
1:11:41
SPEAKER_01: But I don't think that's that's more for Kanye, though.
1:11:44
SPEAKER_01: He's not saying his family.
1:11:45
SPEAKER_04: Kanye lives in a house with his family, right?
1:11:47
SPEAKER_01: Well, that's true.
1:11:48
SPEAKER_04: Crept down the block, like going to his house.
1:11:50
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, nothing like this.
1:11:52
SPEAKER_04: And he made sure to do it on the song with Travis Scott, who's who?
1:11:55
SPEAKER_01: Technically his sort of brother-in-law, but not really, you know.
1:11:58
SPEAKER_00: But we don't know if they're going on with them.
1:12:02
SPEAKER_01: Didn't he throw throw shots at um Travis on Twitter too?
1:12:08
SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna have to have I think Travis was fucked up for allowing that of uh, you know, yeah, I think that's what he said.
1:12:14
SPEAKER_01: He didn't come at him at him, but he didn't know.
1:12:15
SPEAKER_05: But then he said he's gonna uh confront him, and then he actually said in a tweet that they spoke.
1:12:20
SPEAKER_05: So it came full circle.
1:12:21
SPEAKER_04: So you said now the question was do you think that there'd be a Drake without Kanye?
1:12:26
SPEAKER_05: I know me and Red differ differ on this uh argument, but I'm I'm a I think there would still be Drake without Kanye.
1:12:32
SPEAKER_05: You said it's Mace.
1:12:33
SPEAKER_01: No, I didn't say it's because Kanye was huge and he did pave away for a lot of rappers, but I think Kanye is the influence though.
1:12:40
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, well who influenced Kanye?
1:12:41
SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
1:12:42
SPEAKER_05: Mace.
1:12:43
SPEAKER_05: Well, I don't know if Kanye would say that.
1:12:44
SPEAKER_05: Would Kanye say that though?
1:12:45
SPEAKER_05: Because Drake literally said this out of his own mouth.
1:12:48
SPEAKER_04: Drake has said it and Kanye has said it.
1:12:50
SPEAKER_01: That Kanye.
1:12:50
SPEAKER_01: Drake has said what?
1:12:51
SPEAKER_05: No, Drake has literally said that Kanye is his influence.
1:12:55
SPEAKER_01: He said that before, though, right?
1:12:57
SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
1:12:57
SPEAKER_05: Now that's what okay.
1:12:58
SPEAKER_05: I I'm just I feel the same way Drake does.
1:13:00
SPEAKER_05: Obviously, I don't have this the family connection, whatever the case may be.
1:13:03
SPEAKER_05: But I really feel that uh Kanye has let a lot of uh people that looked up to him down personally.
1:13:08
SPEAKER_05: Like I am one of them.
1:13:09
SPEAKER_05: Like Kanye can't.
1:13:10
SPEAKER_01: No, Kanye definitely has.
1:13:11
SPEAKER_05: He he's not even the same human being, in my opinion.
1:13:14
SPEAKER_01: He's not.
1:13:15
SPEAKER_01: I am telling you.
1:13:16
SPEAKER_01: Mental illness is fucking serious.
1:13:18
SPEAKER_05: Mental illness.
1:13:20
SPEAKER_01: No, you are not you are not the same person.
1:13:22
SPEAKER_01: Like I'm gonna tell you right now, the person who I was and the person who I am now, they're two different people.
1:13:27
SPEAKER_01: See, but this is the thing with this is the thing with Kanye.
1:13:30
SPEAKER_01: Like that person is I would I put that person to bed.
1:13:33
SPEAKER_01: That person is no longer living.
1:13:36
SPEAKER_01: I am a fragment of that person.
1:13:38
SPEAKER_04: As far as being able to relate because it's been put out there or whatever, Kanye uh has been diagnosed with bipolar disorder.
1:13:48
SPEAKER_01: What I want to know is if it's type one or type two.
1:13:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he was.
1:13:51
SPEAKER_01: It's official.
1:13:52
SPEAKER_04: It's type one.
1:13:52
SPEAKER_01: I think it's type one too.
1:13:54
SPEAKER_01: The way that he's tweaking.
1:13:56
SPEAKER_01: Based off the rants, I think it's a good one.
1:13:57
SPEAKER_05: Okay, I don't know, and I don't know how much.
1:13:58
SPEAKER_04: So there are two types of bipolar disorder, and we're gonna let each of uh the podcast members with each type of.
1:14:05
SPEAKER_04: Oh really?
1:14:05
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, they're different.
1:14:06
SPEAKER_05: So we have first hand.
1:14:07
SPEAKER_01: So you have I am bipolar people.
1:14:10
SPEAKER_04: This is why when I speak of thing one and thing two.
1:14:13
SPEAKER_01: And yeah, that's why I understand as well.
1:14:14
SPEAKER_04: Take it away, guys.
1:14:15
SPEAKER_04: All right, so first we're gonna go with bipolar one.
1:14:18
SPEAKER_01: Yes, since it's obviously first.
1:14:20
SPEAKER_01: Um so bipolar one, which is what I have, um, it is the more severe type, but it shouldn't be considered any less than bipolar two because they're both equally debilitated.
1:14:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and horrifying.
1:14:34
SPEAKER_01: Um, but bipolar one is when you have cycles of mania and depression.
1:14:39
SPEAKER_01: Um and they can last from weeks to months.
1:14:44
SPEAKER_01: Um, but the only difference between bipolar one and bipolar two is bipolar one is full-on mania.
1:14:49
SPEAKER_01: That's the biggest difference that I saw.
1:14:51
SPEAKER_01: That bipolar two is hypomania, which is like not as severe.
1:14:56
SPEAKER_01: So bipolar one people are more likely to be hospitalized than bipolar two people.
1:15:00
SPEAKER_01: From and they don't, I think bipolar two people can manage without medication as much.
1:15:05
SPEAKER_01: Um, I think those are the biggest differences that I saw.
1:15:08
SPEAKER_01: But what do you think, Red?
1:15:10
SPEAKER_04: And uh speaking with someone who's been clinically diagnosed with bipolar two, um I actually my my research has actually shown me different.
1:15:21
SPEAKER_04: Um that the difference between bipolar one and bipolar two is bipolar one is just a more of a mania and bipolar.
1:15:33
SPEAKER_04: It's definitely more mania.
1:15:34
SPEAKER_04: And bipolar two has the onset of depression.
1:15:37
SPEAKER_01: And I when I first when I first um started researching it, I did think that was the difference too.
1:15:43
SPEAKER_01: Until I started reading more and they were just talking more about the mania and the depression.
1:15:47
SPEAKER_01: No, but it in in WebMD it does say that bipolar two is hypomanic, so it doesn't reach full-blown mania.
1:15:52
SPEAKER_01: Obviously, it didn't say you can't.
1:15:54
SPEAKER_01: But I do think I do think bipolar is more typical of hyp hypomanic episodes.
1:15:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, bipolar one is definitely like full-on mania.
1:16:01
SPEAKER_01: A lot of times, like I have not been able to sleep a lot of times.
1:16:04
SPEAKER_01: Your thoughts just go racing, like you and maybe more episodes.
1:16:09
SPEAKER_01: It's exhausting.
1:16:10
SPEAKER_01: And I think I think that's what I initially thought too.
1:16:13
SPEAKER_01: I thought bipolar two was more depression, right?
1:16:15
SPEAKER_01: And that does make sense, actually.
1:16:17
SPEAKER_04: So we you know, so uh Casey and I have this conversation, you know, off off the podcast um so much, you know, where we pretty much check in with each other um as a self-regulating therapy system.
1:16:33
SPEAKER_04: Yes between people.
1:16:35
SPEAKER_01: We get a lot out of our conversations together, more than therapy.
1:16:38
SPEAKER_01: I would say.
1:16:42
SPEAKER_04: I have more um, you know, of a benefit speaking to KC for 45 minutes than I do speaking to my therapist or my psych.
1:16:52
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I think really understand uh you know the ins and outs of this.
1:16:58
SPEAKER_05: Can I just uh propose a question?
1:16:59
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:17:00
SPEAKER_05: Um what is the lead up to hey, I want to go to the doctor to find out if I have this affliction?
1:17:09
SPEAKER_04: Sometimes there is no lead up, sometimes there is no I want to go get checked out.
1:17:13
SPEAKER_04: In the sense of mania, sometimes you are checked in.
1:17:17
SPEAKER_04: By someone else.
1:17:18
SPEAKER_01: But I was checked in against my will.
1:17:20
SPEAKER_01: So what it is that not sort of against your will, but we've been taking it.
1:17:25
SPEAKER_01: Not against my will, but the they suggested it so much, and I was like finally fine.
1:17:29
SPEAKER_01: I was like fine, okay.
1:17:31
SPEAKER_01: Um but what it is is the average onset for for bipolar is around 25 years old, um, which is exactly how old that's exactly when your body basically.
1:17:42
SPEAKER_01: And that's how that's exactly how old I was when I was diagnosed.
1:17:45
SPEAKER_01: Um, but what it is, it's a very stressful event that happens.
1:17:49
SPEAKER_01: Like I had a very stressful job at the time, and then my mania started like acting up, and that's really when I started losing sleep.
1:17:56
SPEAKER_01: Um, I I had like I have also psychosis where I lost touch with reality.
1:18:01
SPEAKER_01: Like you get sort of um you build up some scenario that your life is in danger, or like something's after you, or I don't know.
1:18:11
SPEAKER_05: Like a bad acid trip.
1:18:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's basically I I would have thought we thought she was on drugs.
1:18:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I wish I wish I was doing drugs at the time, so I could have blamed it on the drugs.
1:18:20
SPEAKER_01: I probably would have held off the diagnosis.
1:18:22
SPEAKER_01: That would have been nice.
1:18:24
SPEAKER_01: But um, yeah, so it's mainly a stressful event that happened.
1:18:27
SPEAKER_01: So Kanye must have been under a lot of stress within the last couple of years.
1:18:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and when did he when did he get married?
1:18:34
SPEAKER_01: He's been making music for a long time.
1:18:36
SPEAKER_05: His mom died.
1:18:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and that's when I thought it would have happened if he could have.
1:18:43
SPEAKER_05: There's a lot of people.
1:18:43
SPEAKER_01: Oh, so that it could have been.
1:18:45
SPEAKER_04: So you see, you know, you have to you have to understand too that with bipolar disorder, there are two factors that uh weigh in heavily on you know your situation or your your uh diagnosis.
1:19:04
SPEAKER_04: It's a a chemical imbalance, yes, or a series, or a severe trauma that has happened, that can alter your mind state, that can send you into whatever it is that you're going through, into a mania, into a depression.
1:19:23
SPEAKER_04: As far as what triggers you to go into the hospital or to go get checked out, it's not necessarily you know, it's not always oh, something's wrong with me, I want to go into the hospital.
1:19:42
SPEAKER_04: Like uh Casey said in her her uh situation, you know.
1:19:46
SPEAKER_01: My family was the one who suggested that I go, and then I was like, okay.
1:19:50
SPEAKER_04: Right.
1:19:50
SPEAKER_04: Mine, I was on vacation and I had a series of episodes, um, both manic and depressive states, and when I became manic, I became extremely violent.
1:20:04
SPEAKER_04: And I almost ended up getting a resort.
1:20:08
SPEAKER_04: You know, I could have been kicked off the resort, could have been jailed in a different country, um, but you know, luckily I had my friend who was there and she intervened and you know, removed me from that situation.
1:20:20
SPEAKER_04: So when I had gone through my series, my ups and downs of everything, and I'm like, okay, it's it's sh like it's a lot worse.
1:20:32
SPEAKER_04: It's something that I was in denial about for years.
1:20:34
SPEAKER_04: Um, you know, with the symptoms and feeling how I was feeling, because I just didn't like the s I just didn't want the stigmatism of a mental illness and you know things of that nature.
1:20:44
SPEAKER_04: You know, mental illness has not been a uh public conversation until times of recent because of suicides and you know things of that nature.
1:20:55
SPEAKER_04: So you figure years ago, you know, bipolar disorder, I'm not thinking about that.
1:21:01
SPEAKER_04: I don't want to, you know, be a part of that, but there's nothing like self-awareness.
1:21:06
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:21:06
SPEAKER_04: So now you have to separate yourself and say, okay, there's something wrong.
1:21:11
SPEAKER_04: It you know, my my actions, uh, my thoughts, these aren't rational.
1:21:19
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:21:19
SPEAKER_04: My behavior isn't rational, it's not normal.
1:21:23
SPEAKER_04: Something is wrong.
1:21:24
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, because she was paranoid too, like So when I came back, you know, got got back into the country, um, I had to lit literally um place myself in solitude for about 48 hours before I was able to uh deal with the outside world and then eventually check myself into the hospital.
1:21:45
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
1:21:46
SPEAKER_04: Um I had my my friend who was there with me during the whole situation, uh, she was the one who suggested and helped me with, you know, going to get checked out and medically examined.
1:21:57
SPEAKER_04: And it was upon that visit to the hospital where I was then uh kept on the psychiatric ward and locked in for Yeah, I'm gonna go.
1:22:06
SPEAKER_01: They yo, they did the old switcheroo on me because I went without even knowing.
1:22:09
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like they they take everything, bro.
1:22:12
SPEAKER_04: Like they take all your fucking piercings out.
1:22:14
SPEAKER_04: Jay take you.
1:22:15
SPEAKER_04: Yo, they I was so bad.
1:22:18
SPEAKER_04: It's basically like being in jail.
1:22:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I couldn't.
1:22:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because I I I went to buy her a lot of loungewear, but I can't bring anything with strings in it, so I had to like cut the strings out and try to find stuff without it.
1:22:28
SPEAKER_04: And then you know, you you you you're there and you're under evaluation and you're given medication and they come and fucking take it.
1:22:36
SPEAKER_01: And I refuse the medication at first, and I wish I refused it more than I did because the first medication they gave me was terrible.
1:22:42
SPEAKER_01: I definitely refused it for like they don't tell you about the fucking side effects or something.
1:22:46
SPEAKER_04: Exactly, and that's just a medication that they give you sometimes.
1:22:49
SPEAKER_04: The side effects are worse than the fucking uh symptoms that you're going through.
1:22:52
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like for us.
1:22:54
SPEAKER_04: But yeah to bring it back to Kanye.
1:22:56
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, this is why uh Casey and I are able to kind of understand him when we know we speak in the group chat or when we speak separately, some of the things that he you know is going on about.
1:23:06
SPEAKER_04: You uh kind of lose touch with reality, you kind of lose touch with something that may be whatever, but once you're feeling like a once you're feeling a certain way and you just go in, like you may say and do things that you may not necessarily genuinely feel or think, but it comes out because you're in a state of mania.
1:23:30
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:23:30
SPEAKER_05: Um I don't have the tweets right in front of me, but he he had two very interesting tweets to me.
1:23:34
SPEAKER_05: Uh one was about him actually being off his meds, so he admitted it, and he feels that he creates better musically with this.
1:23:41
SPEAKER_05: Uh he brought up about my beautiful twisted dark fantasy.
1:23:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he says, I'm loving the new music I've been working on six months off meds.
1:23:47
SPEAKER_01: I can feel me again.
1:23:48
SPEAKER_01: Remember when Dark Fantasy came out, I used to tweet a storm also.
1:23:53
SPEAKER_05: And then he also had a tweet about which was one of his greatest albums.
1:23:58
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I think.
1:23:59
SPEAKER_05: It was.
1:23:59
SPEAKER_01: I cannot be on meds.
1:24:00
SPEAKER_01: That was his last good album.
1:24:01
SPEAKER_01: He says, I cannot be on meds and make Watch the Throne level or Dark Fantasy level music.
1:24:05
SPEAKER_01: I uh don't disagree with him on that point because it does apt as fuck.
1:24:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it like wears you out and you kind of feel like some sort of drone or zombie sometimes when you're on the medication.
1:24:16
SPEAKER_01: So I understand why he's like if he's if if I was a creative person too, I would feel like the medication would hinder me as well.
1:24:23
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
1:24:23
SPEAKER_01: So so I definitely understand him on that.
1:24:26
SPEAKER_01: But then I well no, I mean I mean like musically or artistically, like I'm I'm creative in other words.
1:24:32
SPEAKER_04: You just aren't motivated and you just don't have the energy to put it if you listen to if you listen to his his words on the Kid Cuddy song, um, and I can't think of it right, think of the song uh off top right now, but he speaks of you know being put into situations and you know his thought pattern was insane, like you know, he was off his meds, he was, you know, feeling drained with every fucking situation before it even got started, and that's a reality.
1:25:00
SPEAKER_04: You know, that's a struggle that most people would never know about what comes along with the disorder is your inability to focus, your inability to make decisions, or you just make decisions based off of how you're feeling at the time, impulsive because this is what the fuck your mind is telling you to do.
1:25:20
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, this this seems normal, and as what got me the most is the energy that like the fluctuation in energy is like the worst part.
1:25:29
SPEAKER_04: And as irrational as your thought process may be, it makes sense to you at the time, and but you just don't give a fuck.
1:25:34
SPEAKER_04: Like nothing else resonates.
1:25:38
SPEAKER_04: It's like when you're on you're it's television.
1:25:41
SPEAKER_04: When you're on that path, nothing else around you matters.
1:25:44
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
1:25:45
SPEAKER_01: The thing is, it's just like it's a dangerous thing that he's promoting.
1:25:48
SPEAKER_01: Like I understand that if you don't want to be on your meds, but maybe you talk you talk about like you do see a therapist and you know, like you try to work through your manic episodes, depressive episodes, because again, you're still gonna have them because you're not gonna be on the meds, but him just pushing that agenda of him just being off his meds, it's like because it can influence a lot of people to not take their meds, and then some shit happens during their manic episodes, like yeah, definitely.
1:26:12
SPEAKER_01: No, even on medication, you can have those episodes.
1:26:15
SPEAKER_01: But I think for Kanye to be in the spotlight and saying that he's not on his meds is definitely a negative.
1:26:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, detrimental to people who actually have it, because then even I thought about it.
1:26:26
SPEAKER_01: I was like, wait, why the fuck am I taking meds?
1:26:28
SPEAKER_05: Like pretty uh I didn't even think about that uh angle.
1:26:31
SPEAKER_05: I was I was more focusing on the music because I don't give a shit about any Trump ever Kanye album.
1:26:37
SPEAKER_05: And I also haven't felt, you know, Yeezus and uh like the tapes like that, so I felt like, oh, if it's gonna just musically, if he's gonna get stay off his meds and if he can make uh you know Twisted Fantasy and Wash the Throne, then fuck it, stay off the meds.
1:26:51
SPEAKER_05: But that's just me speaking from a fan standpoint, you know.
1:26:54
SPEAKER_05: But as a personal standpoint, I don't know how his family feels.
1:26:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, or what's happening.
1:26:57
SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
1:26:58
SPEAKER_05: Like, because we can say that Kanye's going crazy, but then um, is there some truth to the things that he's saying about his beef with Drake?
1:27:05
SPEAKER_05: Like, does he does he is Drake actually antagonizing this man?
1:27:08
SPEAKER_05: Like, we we don't know.
1:27:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like he he he probably is a little bit, but he's probably like Kanye's probably taking it out of context or exaggerating a little bit.
1:27:17
SPEAKER_01: But uh, but I I don't know.
1:27:19
SPEAKER_01: Um I don't know.
1:27:20
SPEAKER_04: Listen, we're not in Calabasas.
1:27:22
SPEAKER_01: We really for us to know why not ear that towards your music.
1:27:26
SPEAKER_01: Why air all that stuff out on Twitter?
1:27:29
SPEAKER_05: Now, but Kanye has been like this, though.
1:27:30
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's not only been music for him, he's and that's what put him in the icon level.
1:27:34
SPEAKER_05: The whole George Bush doesn't give a shit about black people.
1:27:37
SPEAKER_05: Like, you know, that wasn't music.
1:27:38
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, the purple emojis that who was that supposed to be?
1:27:41
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that I was gonna ask you guys it have that did that have something to do with mental illness because he was saying that, oh, he's sending purple hearts, and I saw like people on Twitter like giving these wild like like you know, explanations for it, but it has to mean something between the two of them.
1:27:53
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
1:27:53
SPEAKER_04: I I just think that it's whatever it is, it's between the two of them.
1:27:57
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
1:27:57
SPEAKER_04: Um, of course they know more to the story.
1:28:00
SPEAKER_04: Than we'll ever know.
1:28:02
SPEAKER_04: Um so I just think you know for the moment it's kind of redundant because my thing is, Kanye, you've come at Drake already.
1:28:09
SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
1:28:10
SPEAKER_04: Like Sicko Mode has been out for how long?
1:28:12
SPEAKER_04: Like, why wasn't this issue pressed weeks ago?
1:28:15
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:28:16
SPEAKER_04: Um right now, as I stated before.
1:28:22
SPEAKER_05: I know, I don't want to cut you off.
1:28:23
SPEAKER_05: It's because this whole thing started actually because Kanye got a message from a uh party between the two of them about clearing a sample for Drake's new album.
1:28:32
SPEAKER_05: Right.
1:28:33
SPEAKER_05: So I think that's what kind of set him off.
1:28:35
SPEAKER_04: Okay, well, he said he didn't clear it, by the way.
1:28:37
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it yeah, there was a uh record to be cleared that that has uh refreshed my memory.
1:28:42
SPEAKER_04: But um Okay, even so, like, bro, like what the fuck are you gonna do about it?
1:28:48
SPEAKER_04: Like, are you like what happens at this point?
1:28:50
SPEAKER_04: Are you gonna fight him?
1:28:51
SPEAKER_05: No, you said he's not gonna fight him.
1:28:52
SPEAKER_05: You said he's not gonna rap at him.
1:28:53
SPEAKER_04: So then what the fuck?
1:28:54
SPEAKER_04: What like what is the point?
1:28:56
SPEAKER_04: I'm saying, like bringing all of this out allegedly because Drake hasn't said anything.
1:29:01
SPEAKER_04: Drake hasn't responded to anything that Kanye's really said.
1:29:05
SPEAKER_04: Like, publicly.
1:29:06
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:29:06
SPEAKER_05: It's been passive aggressive.
1:29:08
SPEAKER_04: Uh I don't I don't even think it's been passive aggressive.
1:29:09
SPEAKER_04: I just think he's ignoring him.
1:29:11
SPEAKER_04: Like, like the same way that Jay-Z ignored him, I think that Drake's pretty much doing the same thing.
1:29:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I think Drake is gonna continue to do that.
1:29:18
SPEAKER_01: He's gonna make him look like Drake has been poking the bear, though.
1:29:22
SPEAKER_05: We cannot we can't sit here and leave this.
1:29:24
SPEAKER_05: He's been poking the bear a little bit.
1:29:26
SPEAKER_05: Okay, but with in music, because Jay-Z did the same thing on the um the Meek Mill album, and he, you know, we spoke about the verse, and he just did 6ix9ine?
1:29:34
SPEAKER_05: Every Ross did 6-9.
1:29:36
SPEAKER_05: Jay-Z did 6-9 too.
1:29:38
SPEAKER_05: Subtly.
1:29:39
SPEAKER_05: Did we answer Kyrie's question?
1:29:41
SPEAKER_01: Did uh did we answer Kay um Ojo's question that um do we think that um Kanye is a snitch for airing out this whole beef on top?
1:29:51
SPEAKER_05: I think snitching has to do with um if me and you this is my personal definition.
1:29:55
SPEAKER_05: If me and you commit a crime together, and someone if someone uh can go to jail over something we did not told, then that's snitching.
1:30:03
SPEAKER_01: To me, no, but he can because we were talking to Ace'cause uh Ace's uh about this.
1:30:10
SPEAKER_01: About um if someone if you if you threaten someone in person, what is that?
1:30:14
SPEAKER_01: Is that just harassment?
1:30:15
SPEAKER_01: But then if you call that person threatening them, that's like assault or something.
1:30:19
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, if you threaten someone verbally in uh well in person, it's just a a harassment.
1:30:24
SPEAKER_03: Uh like you can only ticket for harassment.
1:30:27
SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah, documentation or just a ticket for harassment.
1:30:30
SPEAKER_03: But if we didn't commit together, but if you text someone or call someone and tell them that you're gonna kill them or hurt uh um threaten them, threaten them with any harm, that's like a that's a felony.
1:30:40
SPEAKER_01: I I don't think arrested.
1:30:41
SPEAKER_03: You can get arrested.
1:30:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they can go pick you up.
1:30:43
SPEAKER_01: That's cool.
1:30:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
1:30:44
SPEAKER_00: If you call, send a letter, any, anyway.
1:30:46
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's cool.
1:30:47
SPEAKER_05: I don't think it's snitching, though.
1:30:48
unknown: Yeah.
1:30:48
SPEAKER_01: But but that is because they can arrest Drake because he's saying that he called him threatening him.
1:30:52
SPEAKER_05: And that's what Kanye should do.
1:30:53
SPEAKER_05: If somebody's threatening me, I'm gonna what what is Kanye supposed to do?
1:30:56
SPEAKER_05: Fight him?
1:30:56
SPEAKER_01: But that's snitching.
1:30:57
SPEAKER_05: No, I don't think it's snitching.
1:30:58
SPEAKER_01: That's how you got it.
1:30:59
SPEAKER_04: Um in this situation, I really wouldn't call it snitching.
1:31:03
SPEAKER_04: I don't think it is.
1:31:04
SPEAKER_04: Um I don't think it's snitching because it's all alleged.
1:31:07
SPEAKER_04: Like, I mean, okay, yeah, the the the shots in the song.
1:31:11
SPEAKER_04: Alright, whatever.
1:31:12
SPEAKER_04: Um but that can be flipped, that can be, you know.
1:31:14
SPEAKER_04: It's music business.
1:31:15
SPEAKER_04: Right, right.
1:31:16
SPEAKER_04: Um as far as anything else, I don't really see a big deal.
1:31:22
SPEAKER_04: Or I just don't know.
1:31:24
SPEAKER_04: I don't really care to, you know, fuel this anymore because it's like nothing is really coming out of it.
1:31:29
SPEAKER_04: You know?
1:31:30
SPEAKER_04: Do they reconcile ever?
1:31:33
SPEAKER_01: Not yet.
1:31:34
SPEAKER_04: Uh you know what?
1:31:37
SPEAKER_04: I think it's gonna be a difficult thing, but for them to reconcile, Kanye would truly have to be sincere in in in in all that he does to try to make it whatever, because my thing is if Kanye hadn't spoken this publicly, do you think that it would be as big in the media as it is?
1:31:59
SPEAKER_05: Absolutely not.
1:32:00
SPEAKER_05: And we know Drake don't really play the media.
1:32:02
SPEAKER_04: Right.
1:32:02
SPEAKER_04: So the biggest thing that everyone was bringing up was the whole in my feeling song Kiki being.
1:32:08
SPEAKER_04: And Drake never addressed it.
1:32:09
SPEAKER_04: Right, and he never addressed it.
1:32:10
SPEAKER_04: But Kanye was upset about that.
1:32:11
SPEAKER_04: Right.
1:32:12
SPEAKER_04: But he's dumb.
1:32:13
SPEAKER_04: But you know, you see what I'm saying there.
1:32:14
SPEAKER_04: Drake is doing the I'm not even paying attention to this dude.
1:32:17
SPEAKER_04: I'm just continuing to make songs.
1:32:20
SPEAKER_04: I'm continuing to make music.
1:32:21
SPEAKER_05: But he is poking the bear a little bit in the music.
1:32:24
SPEAKER_05: So that's that's where Kanye has a leg to stand on.
1:32:26
SPEAKER_01: Well just drop your album, Jay.
1:32:29
SPEAKER_00: Drop your album.
1:32:31
SPEAKER_05: That's just my point, bro.
1:32:32
SPEAKER_05: Like, do something.
1:32:32
SPEAKER_05: Drop your album.
1:32:33
SPEAKER_05: He's not gonna do that.
1:32:34
SPEAKER_00: Twitter fingers overheat.
1:32:35
SPEAKER_05: So uh just just to shut the fuck up.
1:32:38
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, just to nip the whole thing in the butt.
1:32:39
SPEAKER_05: Do we want to hear about Kanye and Drake after this?
1:32:41
SPEAKER_05: Not really.
1:32:42
SPEAKER_03: Not unless somebody's on wax, right?
1:32:44
SPEAKER_03: Good material.
1:32:45
SPEAKER_04: Give me some music.
1:32:47
SPEAKER_04: If someone swings on somebody, if you know it's on wax?
1:32:51
SPEAKER_04: If if if Drake dissesn' Kim Kardashian or some stupid shit.
1:32:54
SPEAKER_03: Or if Kim uh defends Drake somehow.
1:32:58
SPEAKER_03: Something left field we're gonna be able to do.
1:33:00
SPEAKER_04: Right.
1:33:00
SPEAKER_04: It would have to be someone it would have to be something like that.
1:33:01
SPEAKER_04: But not this.
1:33:02
SPEAKER_05: This is too like back and forth right now.
1:33:05
SPEAKER_05: Well, it's not even a back and forth like it's like.
1:33:19
SPEAKER_05: I think I saw a Twitter, a question on Twitter one.
1:33:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because she was basically she was saying, guys, like, I know that there's grown men fall um fighting online, but you know, Maya and I are dropping our two new beautiful songs.
1:33:30
SPEAKER_01: So if everybody could behave, that would be so sick.
1:33:34
SPEAKER_01: Um like K thanks or something like that.
1:33:36
SPEAKER_01: And then Kanye responded, like, um this foolishness.
1:33:41
SPEAKER_01: This is why he said all this foolishness wait on my mental health.
1:33:44
SPEAKER_01: So Ariana Grande, you know I got love for you, but until you're ready to really make sure everyone's okay, don't use me or this moment to promote your music.
1:33:52
SPEAKER_05: What does that even mean?
1:33:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, exactly.
1:33:54
SPEAKER_01: And she was like, with all due respect, I don't need she was like, I don't need anyone um to promote anything.
1:34:01
SPEAKER_01: Um that's not true.
1:34:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and she was like, I was just making a comment about what men were doing at the time because she can also be talking about it.
1:34:06
SPEAKER_05: Why was she attacking men?
1:34:08
SPEAKER_05: She could have been women do this all day.
1:34:11
SPEAKER_01: She could have also been talking, but it was just at the moment because she he was posting mad.
1:34:15
SPEAKER_01: Same thing, he it's in the moment when he's responding to it.
1:34:18
SPEAKER_01: A lot of guys were arguing about the King of R B stuff.
1:34:21
SPEAKER_01: So I'm like, I think she could have been referring to a number of different things.
1:34:24
SPEAKER_01: Is there such a thing as king of RB?
1:34:26
SPEAKER_05: Who has better pussy, right?
1:34:27
SPEAKER_05: The Kardashians or Ariana Grande?
1:34:29
SPEAKER_04: Well, I don't I've never seen a person of God feel up any one of the Kardashians in public.
1:34:38
SPEAKER_04: So I'm gonna have to say that Ariana Grande probably has that firebox, that little Italian.
1:34:43
SPEAKER_04: She's Italian.
1:34:45
SPEAKER_04: She sounds like, you know, you hear her voice, she's gotta be she's gotta be blessed.
1:34:49
SPEAKER_04: Kind of sounds like something you'd order at Starbucks.
1:34:52
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and just for that, I would definitely pick her over the Kardashians.
1:34:57
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:34:57
SPEAKER_01: Because like one thing that the last thing that she said, she was like, she was like, she literally said last thing.
1:35:01
SPEAKER_01: Stop weaponizing mental health, everyone.
1:35:03
SPEAKER_01: Because that's what I feel like Kanye does a lot of the time.
1:35:06
SPEAKER_01: Like, why would you like this is weighing on my mental health?
1:35:08
SPEAKER_01: Like her comment, like, no, like you doing mad shit that you don't need to be doing.
1:35:12
SPEAKER_01: Like, just because you're bipolar doesn't mean everything that you do is okay or excusable.
1:35:17
SPEAKER_01: You got what I'm saying?
1:35:18
SPEAKER_03: Like, tweets, he's opening the door for people to weigh down on his mental health.
1:35:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like you can still be wrong.
1:35:23
SPEAKER_05: Like, I'm gonna agree with Red because she got two dudes that uh killed themselves.
1:35:27
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, one is on the brink right now.
1:35:29
SPEAKER_01: Nah, and then all the dudes that she's with like fall in love with her, like head over heels and shit.
1:35:33
SPEAKER_05: Big Sean moves on pretty uh pretty efficiently.
1:35:35
SPEAKER_01: Well, yeah, he's not for nothing.
1:35:37
SPEAKER_04: I mean, we can't say that the Kardashians don't get anybody falling in love over uh over Ariana Grande, my card.
1:35:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but they seem to be driving that man crazy.
1:35:44
SPEAKER_04: Like I mean, crazy is as crazy as do you see how fine she's just on the the the package.
1:35:52
SPEAKER_05: They're not even listening to that fact.
1:35:54
SPEAKER_04: I like her music a lot better than Ariana Grande's.
1:35:57
SPEAKER_04: I think she's a lot more soul soulful, sexy.
1:36:00
SPEAKER_04: Who sings better?
1:36:01
SPEAKER_05: Who has the better voice?
1:36:02
SPEAKER_04: Ariana.
1:36:03
SPEAKER_04: Um, I like Janae Aiko's voice.
1:36:05
SPEAKER_04: Really?
1:36:05
SPEAKER_04: Ariana?
1:36:06
SPEAKER_05: I think Ariana has the better voice.
1:36:08
SPEAKER_02: Ariel life or bodies.
1:36:10
SPEAKER_04: Okay, I understand that.
1:36:12
SPEAKER_04: That may be your preference.
1:36:13
SPEAKER_04: Ariana definitely has a talent.
1:36:15
SPEAKER_04: You like the soulful shit.
1:36:16
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I'm arranged.
1:36:22
SPEAKER_01: But I do like Janae Aiko's music better, yeah.
1:36:25
SPEAKER_04: I like overall like packaging, like her look, her voice, her music.
1:36:29
SPEAKER_04: She burns incense, like that type of woman.
1:36:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she is that type of woman.
1:36:32
SPEAKER_04: She smokes weed.
1:36:33
SPEAKER_04: She's from LA.
1:36:34
SPEAKER_05: Oh wow.
1:36:35
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
1:36:35
SPEAKER_05: I don't even want to have this argument anymore.
1:36:37
SPEAKER_01: She's from L.A.
1:36:37
SPEAKER_05: once you do the LA shit in there.
1:36:39
SPEAKER_05: We all gotta move to LA, Jamie.
1:36:41
SPEAKER_01: I'm tired of this weather.
1:36:42
SPEAKER_05: Um, nah, New York.
1:36:44
SPEAKER_01: You should be that 2088 album.
1:36:45
SPEAKER_01: Nobody can wear Tim's in LA.
1:36:47
SPEAKER_05: Yes, you can.
1:36:48
SPEAKER_05: Nah, I will take the sun all year round over.
1:36:51
SPEAKER_05: Okay, you can.
1:36:52
SPEAKER_05: I don't want them to.
1:36:52
SPEAKER_05: You don't want them to.
1:36:53
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:36:53
SPEAKER_05: You don't have to do that.
1:36:54
SPEAKER_05: But that LA traffic won't think you.
1:36:57
SPEAKER_05: Y'all keep the flannels.
1:36:58
SPEAKER_04: Yes, niggas in New York do wear flannels.
1:37:00
SPEAKER_05: The gay niggas, not the real niggas.
1:37:01
SPEAKER_04: Like, if you wear niggas in New York who wear Vans, niggas in New York who wear stucy, niggas in New York who wear uh what the fuck else we got.
1:37:12
SPEAKER_04: I don't say we, like, but you know what I'm saying, like there's just certain styles that that New York has adapted from California.
1:37:19
SPEAKER_05: Listen, I'm not trying to hear all that, man.
1:37:21
SPEAKER_05: The Chuck Taylors, I'll give you that.
1:37:23
SPEAKER_04: I said the Vans and Stoucy.
1:37:24
SPEAKER_04: What are you talking about?
1:37:25
SPEAKER_05: I don't know what else.
1:37:26
SPEAKER_03: What the fuck does the West get Chucks?
1:37:28
SPEAKER_03: Because the gang rocked him for 10 years?
1:37:29
SPEAKER_03: That's not their shit.
1:37:30
SPEAKER_03: The Chucks ain't y'all shit.
1:37:31
SPEAKER_03: The Chucks is from fucking basketball.
1:37:33
SPEAKER_04: But the Chuck Chucks is uh I attribute that to LA culture is.
1:37:37
SPEAKER_03: Oh, you should be slapped with a Chuck yourself.
1:37:39
SPEAKER_03: Ah, bro.
1:37:40
SPEAKER_03: I'm West Indian at that.
1:37:41
SPEAKER_03: I know it's back.
1:37:43
SPEAKER_03: It's top from knowing any hip hop.
1:37:45
SPEAKER_03: Dickies and the Chucks and Dickies and Patton.
1:37:49
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that shit is whack.
1:37:50
SPEAKER_03: You gotta give it to me.
1:37:54
SPEAKER_03: I'm a West Indian folk before.
1:37:55
SPEAKER_05: I never wore a pet Dickies in my life.
1:37:57
SPEAKER_05: D block before I rock.
1:38:03
SPEAKER_04: D Block was rocking Dickies hard.
1:38:05
SPEAKER_05: Only because it had the D in it, bro.
1:38:06
SPEAKER_04: Diplomats was motherfucking rocking hard.
1:38:08
SPEAKER_03: You don't see the theme?
1:38:10
SPEAKER_03: The reason why they was Do you know why they were rocking those goddamn those uh clothing?
1:38:15
SPEAKER_03: No, no, no.
1:38:16
SPEAKER_03: Why would why do you think that they were rocking the house?
1:38:17
SPEAKER_05: Conspiracy Ace and three?
1:38:19
SPEAKER_05: Two one.
1:38:21
SPEAKER_03: Think about it.
1:38:21
SPEAKER_03: It's the same reason why why a lot of uh blacks and Hispanics rock their pants on the ass.
1:38:26
SPEAKER_03: It was the jail culture.
1:38:27
SPEAKER_03: So when you come out, you want to wear something that's kind of uniform like the shit that you was rocking on the inside.
1:38:34
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
1:38:34
SPEAKER_03: It's the same thing, it's the same concept.
1:38:36
SPEAKER_05: I understand conspiracy ace, I guess.
1:38:39
SPEAKER_05: Think about it.
1:38:40
SPEAKER_05: Alright, um, we brought up the the king of RB.
1:38:44
SPEAKER_05: And um I feel like we could touch on that a little bit.
1:38:46
SPEAKER_05: Listen, who is it?
1:38:47
SPEAKER_05: It's Jack Queen, apparently.
1:38:48
SPEAKER_05: Until this Negroy.
1:38:50
SPEAKER_05: Not Jack Quees.
1:38:51
SPEAKER_05: I think he's Jack Quay.
1:38:52
SPEAKER_04: Until this Negro Kills R.
1:38:55
SPEAKER_03: Kelly.
1:38:56
SPEAKER_03: So we all agree there's Kells, right?
1:38:58
SPEAKER_04: Until he pisses on the city.
1:39:00
SPEAKER_04: He changes bio to put it.
1:39:02
SPEAKER_04: The crowd.
1:39:02
SPEAKER_04: Until he gets into a domestic situation.
1:39:04
SPEAKER_04: Until you can sing panties off a off a woman.
1:39:08
SPEAKER_05: Until you can control Coke be efficient.
1:39:11
SPEAKER_04: All of that shit.
1:39:13
SPEAKER_03: How does the weekend get surpassed in this?
1:39:15
SPEAKER_03: No, the weekend's pop.
1:39:16
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely pop.
1:39:16
SPEAKER_03: King of RB3.
1:39:18
SPEAKER_03: Pop pop.
1:39:18
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, Michael Jackson's what?
1:39:20
SPEAKER_05: King of Pop.
1:39:20
SPEAKER_05: Pop.
1:39:21
SPEAKER_05: And the weekend is trying to be.
1:39:23
SPEAKER_05: What about Miguel?
1:39:24
SPEAKER_01: Right?
1:39:24
SPEAKER_01: Miguel.
1:39:25
SPEAKER_01: Chris Brown.
1:39:27
SPEAKER_01: Chris Brown.
1:39:28
SPEAKER_05: Let's wrap.
1:39:29
SPEAKER_05: Let's bring this all full circle.
1:39:30
SPEAKER_05: So are we all agreeing that it's R.
1:39:32
SPEAKER_05: Kelly for the title of all time, right?
1:39:35
SPEAKER_04: I would agree, yes.
1:39:36
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:39:37
SPEAKER_05: Okay, so I think what Jacques was saying.
1:39:39
SPEAKER_00: He said this generation.
1:39:40
SPEAKER_05: This generation.
1:39:41
SPEAKER_00: That's what he said.
1:39:42
SPEAKER_05: He has one fucking song.
1:39:43
SPEAKER_05: I disagree with him wholeheartedly, but who do we think it is in this generation?
1:39:46
SPEAKER_05: This generation Chris Brown is the fucking girl.
1:39:52
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:39:55
SPEAKER_01: Right now, his most famous for the last one.
1:40:01
SPEAKER_03: He's got a leg and he's got a leg on both sides.
1:40:05
SPEAKER_03: He's got it in the 90s.
1:40:06
SPEAKER_03: He's like Kobe Bryant.
1:40:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, exactly.
1:40:08
SPEAKER_03: I don't want to hear that name.
1:40:09
SPEAKER_03: David Jordan.
1:40:09
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
1:40:11
SPEAKER_03: Show respect to the GOAT.
1:40:12
SPEAKER_03: I don't want to hear this manager.
1:40:13
SPEAKER_03: The living GOAT.
1:40:16
SPEAKER_03: What?
1:40:16
SPEAKER_03: You don't give Kobe Bryant?
1:40:17
SPEAKER_05: I don't want to talk about Kobe Bryant.
1:40:19
SPEAKER_05: You don't give Kobe Bryant a credit?
1:40:22
SPEAKER_05: LA and light skin.
1:40:23
SPEAKER_05: Like I'm understanding.
1:40:25
SPEAKER_03: Yo, I love how you like to walk around the room and just segregate these topics by LA?
1:40:29
SPEAKER_03: Kobe Bryan.
1:40:30
SPEAKER_03: Kobe, light skinned.
1:40:32
SPEAKER_04: I'm talking about Kobe Bryant as a player.
1:40:33
SPEAKER_03: So you think I like Kobe?
1:40:35
SPEAKER_03: I don't even consider Kobe light skinned.
1:40:37
SPEAKER_03: But I go ahead.
1:40:38
SPEAKER_05: He's an Italian man.
1:40:40
SPEAKER_05: Played for one team.
1:40:41
SPEAKER_05: He's not black.
1:40:42
SPEAKER_05: So let me just talk about it.
1:40:44
SPEAKER_05: Okay, that's cool.
1:40:46
SPEAKER_05: So Chris Brown for this generation, right?
1:40:48
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:40:49
SPEAKER_05: And we're not counting Usher for this generation.
1:40:50
SPEAKER_01: No, I don't think he'd count for this.
1:40:52
SPEAKER_01: Right now he's most famous.
1:40:53
SPEAKER_01: Like I was saying.
1:40:54
SPEAKER_05: Uh just an OG.
1:40:56
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, exactly.
1:40:57
SPEAKER_05: From this generation, can you give me three?
1:40:58
SPEAKER_05: Um from this generation.
1:41:00
SPEAKER_03: Are we talking about RB and not pop?
1:41:02
SPEAKER_03: RB, not pop.
1:41:03
SPEAKER_04: We're going to talk about RB.
1:41:04
SPEAKER_03: I have a hard time differentiating the two.
1:41:05
SPEAKER_05: Nah, it is.
1:41:06
SPEAKER_05: It's gender blend.
1:41:07
SPEAKER_05: I mean, changing.
1:41:08
SPEAKER_05: For chunking of RB, three people.
1:41:10
SPEAKER_05: I got Chris and Trey.
1:41:13
SPEAKER_01: I like Miguel.
1:41:14
SPEAKER_01: Miguel has a lot of poppy shit, but he's not as popping as obviously Chris Brown.
1:41:17
SPEAKER_03: But if you were to listen to him, are there no um women RB artists?
1:41:22
SPEAKER_03: Anymore?
1:41:23
SPEAKER_03: We're not LMA.
1:41:24
SPEAKER_03: We're not really like on the women thing though.
1:41:27
SPEAKER_03: I'm asking, is that a woman can't be king?
1:41:29
SPEAKER_03: That's it's not a what?
1:41:30
SPEAKER_05: A woman can't be king.
1:41:32
SPEAKER_05: It's the king of RMB, not the queen.
1:41:33
SPEAKER_03: That's what we're talking about.
1:41:34
SPEAKER_01: Well, Kylie labor so let's have King Kylie.
1:41:36
SPEAKER_03: I see the next word that's gonna be abolished in our vocabulary.
1:41:40
SPEAKER_03: Wait, what?
1:41:40
SPEAKER_03: King?
1:41:40
SPEAKER_03: King.
1:41:41
SPEAKER_03: Get the fuck out of here.
1:41:45
SPEAKER_05: No, those aren't males.
1:41:46
SPEAKER_05: Those are betas.
1:41:47
SPEAKER_05: But um anyways, so I'm gonna go with Justin Chubbs.
1:41:51
SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna go with this is his second shot.
1:41:55
SPEAKER_04: Especially speaking of betas.
1:41:56
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:41:57
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so I'm gonna go with Chris Trey and Okay, I'll Miguel is cool.
1:42:04
SPEAKER_05: Chris Trey McGuell.
1:42:07
SPEAKER_05: That's for my three.
1:42:08
SPEAKER_05: You got a three?
1:42:08
SPEAKER_05: I know it's on the spot.
1:42:10
SPEAKER_04: I don't really have three.
1:42:11
SPEAKER_04: Um I'll give you Chris Brown.
1:42:15
SPEAKER_05: I think it's by a landslide, too.
1:42:16
SPEAKER_05: Um I can't do that.
1:42:17
SPEAKER_04: And I just think because of his because of his pack his packaging.
1:42:21
SPEAKER_04: He can he can sing, he can rap, and he can dance his fucking ass off.
1:42:26
SPEAKER_04: So like, and I've actually seen him live.
1:42:29
SPEAKER_04: So I would definitely uh give Chris Brown the king of RB by a fucking landslide.
1:42:37
SPEAKER_05: Um how do you feel about Bobby Valentino?
1:42:39
SPEAKER_04: Like there was a lot of weird dudes don't in this race.
1:42:43
SPEAKER_04: I haven't I I haven't listened to a full Bobby Valentino project.
1:42:47
SPEAKER_04: I couldn't name me one either.
1:42:48
SPEAKER_04: Jay Holiday.
1:42:50
SPEAKER_04: Jay Holiday has bed.
1:42:52
SPEAKER_04: He got mistaken by uh as valet.
1:42:54
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I know.
1:42:54
SPEAKER_05: Like that's that's wild.
1:42:56
SPEAKER_04: And I saw they gave him Dunkie today for that too.
1:42:58
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, no, but because he tried to flex.
1:42:59
SPEAKER_05: He said that, oh baby, I'm not valet, I got a Gucci jacket.
1:43:02
SPEAKER_05: He's like Valet in his Gucci jacket?
1:43:03
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, that's that's wild.
1:43:04
SPEAKER_05: Like uh he deserved it too.
1:43:05
SPEAKER_05: But I think this whole thing.
1:43:07
SPEAKER_05: That was a weak comeback, though.
1:43:08
SPEAKER_05: No, no, absolutely.
1:43:09
SPEAKER_04: Number one, I would have fucking stopped recording and then recorded another video.
1:43:12
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:43:12
SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
1:43:13
SPEAKER_04: That wouldn't have even been in my video.
1:43:14
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, like why like why'd he but that just shows his age.
1:43:16
SPEAKER_05: Like he doesn't know what the fuck is going on.
1:43:18
SPEAKER_05: Clearly he can't be the king if that's going on.
1:43:19
SPEAKER_05: What's Bobby Brown?
1:43:20
SPEAKER_05: Is he pop?
1:43:22
SPEAKER_04: Bobby Brown was out of this conversation.
1:43:26
SPEAKER_05: Like we hit the criteria, did the coke.
1:43:32
SPEAKER_05: But yeah, that's my thing.
1:43:33
SPEAKER_05: Like, do we consider Bobby Brown pop RB?
1:43:36
SPEAKER_05: Sugar book.
1:43:39
SPEAKER_04: Bobby Brown's RB.
1:43:41
SPEAKER_05: Okay, but he doesn't beat Kells.
1:43:43
SPEAKER_04: He's R he's RB.
1:43:44
SPEAKER_04: Oh no, he doesn't beat Kells, not at all.
1:43:45
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
1:43:46
SPEAKER_04: R.
1:43:46
SPEAKER_04: Kelly is like someone who sings, writes, and produces his own shit.
1:43:54
SPEAKER_04: Like he doesn't need you for shit, really.
1:43:57
SPEAKER_04: How about T Pain?
1:43:58
SPEAKER_04: T Pain had potential to be, but I think his uh addictions probably set him back.
1:44:06
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
1:44:07
SPEAKER_04: T Pain, yeah.
1:44:08
SPEAKER_04: I would say so.
1:44:10
SPEAKER_04: He had the momentum coming out of the gate to really, really like.
1:44:14
SPEAKER_04: But I don't think that it I don't think that he's solidified.
1:44:17
SPEAKER_04: I give him his credit for what he's done.
1:44:18
SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
1:44:19
SPEAKER_04: Like he's definitely had hits.
1:44:21
SPEAKER_04: Um and at one point he was the nigga to have on your motherfucking on your hook.
1:44:26
SPEAKER_03: You had people like Kanye giving him compliments as to the genius of his articulation.
1:44:31
SPEAKER_04: See, now that's the thing.
1:44:33
SPEAKER_04: Chris Brown's gonna be a good thing.
1:44:34
SPEAKER_04: So Drake can't be there.
1:44:35
SPEAKER_04: Who?
1:44:35
SPEAKER_04: Drake?
1:44:36
SPEAKER_04: For King of RB?
1:44:37
SPEAKER_04: Not for King of RB.
1:44:38
unknown: No.
1:44:38
SPEAKER_04: No.
1:44:40
SPEAKER_03: Why why not?
1:44:41
SPEAKER_03: That's my question.
1:44:42
SPEAKER_04: Um I'm not Drake fans.
1:44:44
SPEAKER_04: Because even though Drake sings and he's known or you know categorized as being sensitive and a ladies' man and all of this stuff, he is more geared to a rapper.
1:44:58
SPEAKER_04: Like more geared to like rap.
1:45:09
SPEAKER_05: Take care.
1:45:10
SPEAKER_05: Um it's his best album, but is it through it to a rap album?
1:45:15
SPEAKER_05: I wouldn't scroll a rap.
1:45:16
SPEAKER_05: It's a pop album.
1:45:17
SPEAKER_05: Pop.
1:45:17
SPEAKER_05: Okay, cool.
1:45:18
SPEAKER_03: Alright.
1:45:19
SPEAKER_03: Oh, and Chris Brown.
1:45:21
SPEAKER_03: So so again, break down the because I never read the definition between pop and and RB.
1:45:26
SPEAKER_03: What's the difference?
1:45:27
SPEAKER_04: Pop is sure for popular music.
1:45:29
SPEAKER_04: Like it's just you it's a I don't think the I don't think the definition pop?
1:45:34
SPEAKER_05: I don't I don't think the definition will help you.
1:45:36
SPEAKER_05: It's you it's a clear.
1:45:37
SPEAKER_05: You have to have the ear.
1:45:38
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's a it's a conglomerate sort of thing.
1:45:40
SPEAKER_04: Like, you know, when you say pop, that's also crossing over into the white uh demographic as well.
1:45:49
SPEAKER_04: What's the weakest big song?
1:45:50
SPEAKER_05: I can't feel my face right now.
1:45:52
SPEAKER_05: Whatever that song is?
1:45:53
SPEAKER_05: Like, does that sound like adorned by Miguel to you?
1:45:58
SPEAKER_05: Would you put them in the same genre?
1:46:00
SPEAKER_05: No.
1:46:00
SPEAKER_05: And that's the difference.
1:46:01
SPEAKER_05: You just have to have an ear for the So Adele Adele would be RB.
1:46:04
SPEAKER_03: Miguel.
1:46:05
SPEAKER_03: Miguel.
1:46:05
SPEAKER_03: No, Adele.
1:46:06
SPEAKER_05: Adele, um.
1:46:10
SPEAKER_05: Nah.
1:46:11
SPEAKER_05: Her music is still poppy.
1:46:12
SPEAKER_03: Because she's white.
1:46:14
SPEAKER_05: No.
1:46:14
SPEAKER_05: Because uh who John B is what race was he?
1:46:18
SPEAKER_05: John B John B's black.
1:46:20
SPEAKER_04: The B stands for black.
1:46:22
SPEAKER_05: John B and uh Robin Thick.
1:46:25
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
1:46:25
SPEAKER_05: His his he has pop songs, but his you know, his album cuts are really soulful and hard.
1:46:32
SPEAKER_05: So I don't think race really matters.
1:46:35
SPEAKER_05: But Adele's definitely making pop music.
1:46:37
SPEAKER_03: Because when you say pop right now, like um Rail likes to say the hip hop isn't uh black culture.
1:46:42
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, nah.
1:46:43
SPEAKER_03: So that that's why I'm at that's where I'm gonna be.
1:46:45
SPEAKER_05: I get what you're saying, but um like white uh RB music.
1:46:48
SPEAKER_05: Uh Timberlake, Justin Timberlake is a pop star, but he definitely has a lot of RB songs too.
1:46:52
SPEAKER_04: I'll even I'll even put fucking Jeremia on the list above this this dude who's Jacquis?
1:46:58
SPEAKER_04: I don't know a Jacquis song.
1:46:59
SPEAKER_04: Like Jeremiah, you know what I'm saying?
1:47:02
SPEAKER_03: Uh we only know one Jacquis over here.
1:47:06
SPEAKER_01: I know people liked his rendition of Trip better, but Yeah, yeah.
1:47:10
SPEAKER_05: Um I think uh can be.
1:47:12
SPEAKER_01: He doesn't have enough material.
1:47:13
SPEAKER_05: I want to hear the women just for real fast.
1:47:15
SPEAKER_05: Um can you just give me like your one and two for Queens of RB?
1:47:19
SPEAKER_05: And it's Beyonce the end all be all, or is it just she being a popular population?
1:47:25
SPEAKER_01: She's just popular.
1:47:26
SPEAKER_01: Aretha Franklin Franklin's generation.
1:47:28
SPEAKER_05: No, I want the just generation women.
1:47:29
SPEAKER_01: Beyonce, Mariah Carey.
1:47:31
SPEAKER_05: Mariah Carey, this generation?
1:47:34
SPEAKER_01: Um because Beyonce came back, you know, she's a little bit more than a lot of people.
1:47:38
SPEAKER_01: No, no, Beyonce's been around forever, but she's still relevant right now.
1:47:41
SPEAKER_05: Mariah Carey's not relevant right now, musically.
1:47:43
SPEAKER_05: So who would you say is the one and two for y'all in RB?
1:47:47
SPEAKER_01: Um, I'd say Sizza, but she's really recent.
1:47:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:47:53
SPEAKER_05: That's this generation.
1:47:54
SPEAKER_05: That's cool.
1:47:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so Sizza, LMA, and her.
1:47:57
SPEAKER_05: I don't know what type of music.
1:47:58
SPEAKER_01: Sizza, LMA, and her.
1:48:00
unknown: Yeah.
1:48:00
SPEAKER_05: Oh, her.
1:48:00
SPEAKER_05: I hear her.
1:48:01
SPEAKER_05: She got knocked in a lot for the Grammys, bro.
1:48:03
SPEAKER_01: That's good.
1:48:04
SPEAKER_01: And how about um Georgia Smith?
1:48:07
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, Georgia Smith.
1:48:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:48:10
SPEAKER_01: She's popping.
1:48:10
SPEAKER_05: But number one is what, Queen B?
1:48:12
SPEAKER_05: Beyonce?
1:48:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, of course.
1:48:13
SPEAKER_01: Number one B Bee B.
1:48:14
SPEAKER_05: But does Beyonce make RB?
1:48:15
SPEAKER_01: Is it RB?
1:48:17
SPEAKER_01: But she has, yeah.
1:48:19
SPEAKER_05: Why why is Ace so anti-Beyoncé?
1:48:22
SPEAKER_05: First of all, the Beehive, listen, Beehive.
1:48:25
SPEAKER_05: Rihanna's absolute throwing through a pop star.
1:48:29
SPEAKER_05: Please.
1:48:29
SPEAKER_05: Rihanna can't sing.
1:48:31
SPEAKER_03: So right.
1:48:32
SPEAKER_05: I love Rihanna.
1:48:33
SPEAKER_05: She's a sexual fan.
1:48:34
SPEAKER_03: And I don't think Beyonce can write.
1:48:35
SPEAKER_03: So that's okay, but that's not a uh uh, you know, stipulation as to why I I doubt I uh Yeah, you don't need a write.
1:48:42
SPEAKER_01: That's the thing, because right now there's not a lot of women that are stuck in one genre.
1:48:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like Sisley, you can make arguments.
1:48:48
SPEAKER_03: The reason why I'm bringing this up because um when um when Red mentioned Drake not being an RB, I was surprised too because same reason I keep bringing up the um the calypso that Drake likes to do, and everybody seems that it's alright.
1:49:01
SPEAKER_03: So I just wanna know I want to know, like, do we have genres?
1:49:05
SPEAKER_03: Do we stay in a lane anymore?
1:49:06
SPEAKER_03: How do we keep the classification or do we have these these margins anymore?
1:49:11
SPEAKER_01: What's Kalani?
1:49:12
SPEAKER_05: It's blurred.
1:49:12
SPEAKER_05: Kaylani, I don't listen to her music.
1:49:14
SPEAKER_01: I do.
1:49:15
SPEAKER_05: Oh no, Rihanna's pop.
1:49:16
SPEAKER_00: Is she RB?
1:49:18
SPEAKER_05: I feel like the one bit.
1:49:19
SPEAKER_05: She's pop through.
1:49:20
SPEAKER_03: Rihanna is the She's not RB.
1:49:22
SPEAKER_05: Nah, not to me, at least.
1:49:23
SPEAKER_05: She's pop.
1:49:23
SPEAKER_03: The most well-grown and groomed woman's uh since 05.
1:49:27
SPEAKER_05: What is Wild Thoughts?
1:49:28
SPEAKER_05: What type of song is that to you?
1:49:30
SPEAKER_05: That can't be Rude.
1:49:33
SPEAKER_03: Rude ya.
1:49:34
SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
1:49:35
SPEAKER_05: That's a good photograph.
1:49:36
SPEAKER_03: That's pop rude ya.
1:49:37
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's pop music to me, personally.
1:49:39
SPEAKER_05: And she can't sing for shit.
1:49:40
SPEAKER_05: Well, L me LMA too.
1:49:41
SPEAKER_05: She's coming up though.
1:49:42
SPEAKER_05: LAPTY I would put Beyonce in pop.
1:49:44
SPEAKER_05: I would put her in pop too.
1:49:45
SPEAKER_05: But but some people say she's the Queen R and B.
1:49:47
SPEAKER_05: I don't see it 'cause Mary 'cause Beyonce's not a better better singer than like Mary J.
1:49:51
SPEAKER_05: Bellard.
1:49:51
SPEAKER_05: Not at all.
1:49:51
SPEAKER_05: Fuck Beyonce.
1:49:52
SPEAKER_05: But whoa, whoa, come.
1:49:54
SPEAKER_05: What?
1:49:55
SPEAKER_05: It's cool, it's cool, it's cool.
1:49:56
SPEAKER_05: He knows how to get a rise out of me.
1:49:58
SPEAKER_03: So no it's not even that.
1:50:00
SPEAKER_04: Beyonce's overrated.
1:50:03
SPEAKER_04: Overrated over it's the ball at all.
1:50:13
SPEAKER_04: There's a lot of better stingers than Beyonce.
1:50:15
SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
1:50:16
SPEAKER_04: Well give you a lot of people.
1:50:16
SPEAKER_03: A lot of better stingers didn't get enough respect when I was coming up.
1:50:21
SPEAKER_03: No, yeah, because they they weren't as they weren't as they weren't as provocative as Beyonce was in the 90s.
1:50:27
SPEAKER_03: Because you got Alicia Keys.
1:50:29
SPEAKER_03: You got Janet Jackson.
1:50:30
SPEAKER_03: I know that Alicia Keys is not really 90s, but you got Janet Jackson and Alicia Keys.
1:50:37
SPEAKER_03: I know it's not 99, like I said, but it's still um two other singers who did not get enough time because Beyonce was trumping them because of her uh ability to perform.
1:50:48
SPEAKER_03: Not necessarily.
1:50:49
SPEAKER_04: But when everyone speaks of Beyonce primarily, that's what they speak about.
1:50:54
SPEAKER_04: But this is why we say that she's overreating.
1:50:59
SPEAKER_03: But she's not a bad thing.
1:51:02
SPEAKER_03: She's not a bad singer.
1:51:03
SPEAKER_03: Let's not do that.
1:51:03
SPEAKER_03: Ariana Grande is the last voice of Mariah Carey that I heard.
1:51:08
SPEAKER_03: When you hear the mind, the mind.
1:51:10
SPEAKER_05: Okay, if we're gonna put tiers, she's not a tier one singer, she's a tier two singer.
1:51:13
SPEAKER_05: But in every other category, she's tier one.
1:51:15
SPEAKER_05: She's a tier one celebrity.
1:51:17
SPEAKER_05: She's a tier one performer, she's a tier one artist.
1:51:20
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
1:51:20
SPEAKER_05: She's she's marketable, tier one.
1:51:23
SPEAKER_01: Consistent with her album.
1:51:24
SPEAKER_01: Tier one piece.
1:51:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:51:26
SPEAKER_05: Popularity, tier one, like tier one.
1:51:28
SPEAKER_05: You're not gonna shit on Beyoncé, bro.
1:51:29
SPEAKER_05: That's impossible.
1:51:32
SPEAKER_05: The only thing you can knock her for is her singing ability, and it's not garbage.
1:51:35
SPEAKER_05: Like Rihanna, she sings better than Rihanna.
1:51:37
SPEAKER_05: Rihanna can't sing for shit.
1:51:38
SPEAKER_05: Rihanna's not singing than Beyoncé.
1:51:40
SPEAKER_05: Rihanna's definitely a singer.
1:51:42
SPEAKER_05: She's a pop star.
1:51:43
SPEAKER_05: I guess.
1:51:43
SPEAKER_05: Drake's a singer too.
1:51:44
SPEAKER_05: So I guess she's right.
1:51:46
SPEAKER_05: But um, so just Drake can't sing for shit either.
1:51:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, a lot of these dudes.
1:51:49
SPEAKER_03: Can Kanye sing?
1:51:50
SPEAKER_03: Shit, 50 be singing like a motherfucker.
1:51:52
SPEAKER_03: That song that you just told me about 50 and Chris Brown.
1:51:54
SPEAKER_03: That shit started off 50 singing.
1:51:56
SPEAKER_03: That song is fucking fire, bro.
1:51:57
SPEAKER_03: I can't believe I never heard that.
1:52:05
SPEAKER_04: I mean, he's a hip hop bully.
1:52:06
SPEAKER_04: He could do that shit.
1:52:08
SPEAKER_05: Olivia's a man, goddamn.
1:52:09
SPEAKER_05: But um, I understand everything that you guys are saying about the whole King, Queens, RB.
1:52:14
SPEAKER_05: Um, and that that's cool, you know.
1:52:16
SPEAKER_03: It's just very interesting that even in a um uh genre like RB, which is more sensitive, that you still don't have that many women that are on top of that game or a wide selection of multiple, they're in multiple genres, though.
1:52:30
SPEAKER_01: That's the thing.
1:52:31
SPEAKER_01: I was like, a lot of them don't just concentrate, they release RB songs, then they release pop songs.
1:52:37
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
1:52:37
SPEAKER_05: Like they're it's it's what's scissors?
1:52:40
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I don't know what that's exactly.
1:52:41
SPEAKER_05: Like we can't, it's just too much genre blending.
1:52:43
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, exactly.
1:52:44
SPEAKER_05: Like people don't consider scissors RB, but I'm pretty sure she considers herself RB.
1:52:48
SPEAKER_03: I think that's just it about this new generation.
1:52:49
SPEAKER_03: We don't have anything that's like um a one direction, everything is a crossover or blend.
1:52:56
SPEAKER_03: It's about money, a mixture.
1:52:58
SPEAKER_05: Yo, Drake hits every single demographic, and he's the number one.
1:53:03
SPEAKER_03: My man figured out how how to make a song about every popular conversation in a day.
1:53:09
SPEAKER_05: He didn't figure it out.
1:53:10
SPEAKER_05: He was genetically engineered for this.
1:53:12
SPEAKER_05: He's a Jew, he's black, he's the only white person that can say the N-word.
1:53:16
SPEAKER_05: Like he literally passes every no like he to rap about being from the suburbs and uh like bro, he got everything on deck.
1:53:24
SPEAKER_05: You can't compare Drake to anybody ever because he has all the intangibles on top of having all the money, on top of having all the popularity, on top of being in the you know, the era of streaming.
1:53:33
SPEAKER_05: Like it's just too much.
1:53:34
SPEAKER_05: Like he's the most streamed artist.
1:53:36
SPEAKER_05: He's a prosthetic period.
1:53:37
SPEAKER_04: Period.
1:53:38
SPEAKER_04: And he is getting pussy hand over fist.
1:53:42
SPEAKER_04: Oh he was knocking down Rihanna, knocking down Serena Williams, knocking down every motherfucking body.
1:53:49
SPEAKER_04: Didn't he knock down Tahiri?
1:53:50
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he knocked down Tahiri.
1:53:52
SPEAKER_03: He knocked down like I was tight when I realized he was fucking with Serena.
1:53:57
SPEAKER_01: And then his baby mom.
1:53:59
SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
1:53:59
SPEAKER_05: Say that louder for the people in the back because that's the most important part of that.
1:54:02
SPEAKER_01: I was like, and then his baby mom's.
1:54:03
SPEAKER_05: I'm not gonna give him all his props and then not look at his baby mom being a fucking porn star.
1:54:07
SPEAKER_05: But um I'm not a- You say you give him props for that?
1:54:09
SPEAKER_05: No, I don't.
1:54:09
SPEAKER_05: Like I'm not gonna give him all this props and then, you know, not mention the fact that he's impregnated a a whore.
1:54:15
SPEAKER_04: But um As many, aren't they?
1:54:17
SPEAKER_04: As many people have no horse.
1:54:20
SPEAKER_04: So um I can give I can give you freaking five names of local yokos who have impregnated whores.
1:54:26
SPEAKER_05: They're not they're not Drake.
1:54:27
SPEAKER_05: That's the problem.
1:54:28
SPEAKER_05: No one is exempt, yeah.
1:54:30
SPEAKER_05: That's the problem.
1:54:31
SPEAKER_05: Um, we were talking about You don't think he has his bad nights?
1:54:34
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but you pull out every that's the point.
1:54:37
SPEAKER_05: Hey, listen.
1:54:38
SPEAKER_01: Use a kind of Jesus.
1:54:40
SPEAKER_05: So, nah, kinda's a whack.
1:54:42
SPEAKER_05: Um, he wouldn't have none of those bodies would have counted.
1:54:45
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so um, I want to talk about because we spoke about uh New York radio earlier, and we had a moment in New York Radio with that uh Ebro.
1:54:54
SPEAKER_05: Is everybody familiar with Ebro?
1:54:55
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, bitch bro.
1:54:56
SPEAKER_05: Old Morris Big Brother.
1:54:58
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, exactly.
1:54:58
SPEAKER_05: That's the funniest part.
1:54:59
SPEAKER_05: Is that you don't fuck with him, but y'all resemble each other?
1:55:01
SPEAKER_05: That's the funniest shit.
1:55:04
SPEAKER_04: It's only the it's only the beard that you see.
1:55:05
SPEAKER_05: I think Ebro is actually from um San Francisco.
1:55:08
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you see, like there we go.
1:55:10
SPEAKER_04: So um he's from he's from Cali and has a fucking huge uh platform on New York radio and ultimately decides.
1:55:17
SPEAKER_04: So where's he from played on the motherfucking show?
1:55:19
SPEAKER_05: Just on hot 97, which is failing, by the way.
1:55:21
SPEAKER_05: He's from California, nigga.
1:55:22
SPEAKER_05: No, absolutely.
1:55:23
SPEAKER_05: Him and Rosenberg.
1:55:24
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, Rosen Bitch.
1:55:26
SPEAKER_05: Rosen Jew.
1:55:27
SPEAKER_04: Um number one, uh you're getting ready to go into the Kodak Black thing.
1:55:31
SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
1:55:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so what was that whole thing about?
1:55:34
SPEAKER_03: Like, what was the topic?
1:55:35
SPEAKER_03: We're gonna get to that.
1:55:36
SPEAKER_03: Go ahead, Ray.
1:55:36
SPEAKER_04: Um first off, let me just say, as far as Kodak Black, his uh new video testimony, my boy G Mack is uh uh he made a cameo in the video, so shout outs to G Mack and uh Kodak Black on that testimony.
1:55:49
SPEAKER_04: But yes, uh Kodak Black was on high ninety-seven on Ebro and um Rosenberg and whatever and the question came up about his uh alleged well his sexual assault um case.
1:56:05
SPEAKER_04: Which is still open.
1:56:06
SPEAKER_04: Right.
1:56:08
SPEAKER_04: And uh he kind of got defensive about it, saying that, you know, he feels that when these type of topics are going on, that the radio DJs and things of that nature, like they just harp on it for you know, entertainment and just trying to, you know, click on the views or the listens.
1:56:31
SPEAKER_04: So he said, if that's what you want to talk about, he's like, I'm really don't want to talk about it, and I'll walk out.
1:56:37
SPEAKER_04: So at that point, that's when he's like, Oh, well, we don't have to, we can stop it right here, we can stop the interview right here.
1:56:42
SPEAKER_04: And that was the end of the interview.
1:56:44
SPEAKER_05: Can I ask you a question?
1:56:45
SPEAKER_05: Okay, is it not Ebro's job to question these artists, musicians, rappers, whoever it comes up on that show about the things that's going on in their lives.
1:56:58
SPEAKER_05: I'm not team Ebro, and I ask this question because I feel like we give a lot of these people a pass, and the reason why I can't be full team Ebro is because he definitely had Fabulous around him up there, and he never you know spoke about Fabulous in his you know domestic case.
1:57:18
SPEAKER_04: Well, Ebro is very subjective who he gives that sort of energy to.
1:57:24
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's my issue.
1:57:26
SPEAKER_04: Um so yeah, absolutely.
1:57:28
SPEAKER_01: But in the vacuum, if it's a s if it's still an open case, I wouldn't want to say shit about it.
1:57:32
SPEAKER_01: Right, but he's just on the radio.
1:57:34
SPEAKER_05: But if you really listen to the whole clip, Ebro tells him straight up we're not gonna really get into detail about the case, and that's what brought up the case.
1:57:42
SPEAKER_05: And then Kodak made his rebuttal, and then Ebro was trying to tell him, like, bro, we're not really talking about your case, I'm just letting the people know that there is a case in general.
1:57:49
SPEAKER_05: And then they tried to move on to the moon landing and XYZ.
1:57:52
SPEAKER_05: I just think that in in hip hop especially, we don't hold our artists accountable for the liked artists anyway.
1:58:00
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, like it's that and that's my point.
1:58:01
SPEAKER_05: It's like like somebody that's like liked is never held accountable for their shit.
1:58:06
SPEAKER_05: And I don't think it's you know it's fair, because if I'm a journalist and I want to take journalism seriously and in hip hop, like we're a genre that we're f now just starting to get taken seriously because you know we've been always looked at as you know our retards attempt poetry and shit like that.
1:58:19
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:58:19
SPEAKER_05: And I just don't think it's fair for us to not go like give Ebro at least some credit for bringing this to task.
1:58:26
SPEAKER_05: Like he he said it straight up, like, you know, we're gonna talk about this at a later date because it's open, but like is journalism not a thing in hip hop?
1:58:34
SPEAKER_05: Like like we got we got like uh dude like Adam 22 and stuff like that.
1:58:40
SPEAKER_05: Like they're doing journalism as journalism, but it's never looked at as journalism because it's hip-hop, and I don't think it's fair.
1:58:45
SPEAKER_01: And if we're gonna be I mean, what was the initial point of the interview?
1:58:49
SPEAKER_01: Like, why did they invite him to talk about it?
1:58:52
SPEAKER_01: So, I mean, I understand both sides of it, but if Kodak like didn't want to talk about it, like he doesn't want to talk about it, like it's his personal business.
1:59:02
SPEAKER_01: It's his personal business, and if he doesn't want to address it right now, you can't force him.
1:59:06
SPEAKER_01: You can't be like, oh, get off of my show, because if you don't want to talk about your personal business, then get out.
1:59:11
SPEAKER_05: Like, okay, so we have we have a platform, right?
1:59:14
SPEAKER_05: Uh-huh.
1:59:14
SPEAKER_05: And if Kanye came here and he told us, hey, I don't want to talk about mental illness, I personally wouldn't feel comfortable not talking about mental illness because we speak about that on the show.
1:59:23
SPEAKER_05: Why am I gonna tailor my journalism to you?
1:59:26
SPEAKER_05: Like you're coming on my show.
1:59:28
SPEAKER_05: It's not I'm going to you, Kodak.
1:59:29
SPEAKER_05: You came here to promote your shit.
1:59:31
SPEAKER_05: Okay, yeah, and exactly.
1:59:32
SPEAKER_01: And they talked about the album too and everything, right?
1:59:34
SPEAKER_05: I don't know if they did, honestly.
1:59:35
SPEAKER_01: Because that's what I'm saying.
1:59:36
SPEAKER_01: How far?
1:59:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, how far into the interview did they?
1:59:40
SPEAKER_05: It never got that far.
1:59:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so that's what I'm saying.
1:59:42
SPEAKER_01: They shouldn't have started it with that.
1:59:43
SPEAKER_01: Like, start with the album, like do that later on.
1:59:46
SPEAKER_01: But I don't think you should press them right away about their personal issues.
1:59:50
SPEAKER_05: I I disagree.
1:59:51
SPEAKER_05: I really think that if you're coming.
1:59:55
SPEAKER_05: No, no, no.
1:59:55
SPEAKER_05: Okay, maybe the timing would have been a good thing.
1:59:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like the timing, the method in the time.
1:59:58
SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm saying the way to do it.
2:00:00
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
2:00:00
SPEAKER_01: Like, there's a way to do it.
2:00:01
SPEAKER_01: Ebro's not wrong for bringing it up, but I don't like the way that he did it.
2:00:05
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
2:00:06
SPEAKER_05: Because uh social media is like really shitting on Ebro, like uh red mentioned.
2:00:10
SPEAKER_01: Because the way that he did it even kind of trick daddy.
2:00:13
SPEAKER_01: I watched that video.
2:00:14
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, Trick Daddy, I'm gonna do it.
2:00:16
SPEAKER_01: Yo, because the way that he did it was like a like a dick.
2:00:18
SPEAKER_04: Ebro won't smoke.
2:00:20
SPEAKER_04: Ebro already isn't necessarily liked by the masses.
2:00:25
SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
2:00:26
SPEAKER_04: So when you Well, I like it more than Funk Flex.
2:00:30
SPEAKER_04: When you're already in the same Jesus Christ, Funk Flex is the worst.
2:00:34
SPEAKER_04: Same studio.
2:00:35
SPEAKER_04: Right.
2:00:35
SPEAKER_04: That's like chewing glass or thumb taxi.
2:00:37
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, oh my god.
2:00:38
SPEAKER_04: That's those your choices.
2:00:39
SPEAKER_00: Terrible.
2:00:40
SPEAKER_00: But um hate those bombers.
2:00:41
SPEAKER_04: You're already not uh liked as a personality.
2:00:47
SPEAKER_04: So anything that you do that kind of rubs anybody the wrong way is gonna be, you know, magnified.
2:00:55
SPEAKER_04: And, you know, so I did too listen to, you know, that portion of the interview.
2:01:02
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
2:01:02
SPEAKER_04: And I can say that I don't think that Ebro is necessarily out of line for the way that he addressed it.
2:01:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:01:12
SPEAKER_04: But before you go on air, I think that there should be some sort of conversation about what may happen.
2:01:24
SPEAKER_01: About a briefing.
2:01:25
SPEAKER_04: Right, a briefing about listen, I really don't want to get into so forth and so on.
2:01:31
SPEAKER_05: Can I stop you for a second?
2:01:32
SPEAKER_05: Would you be comfortable with that on this podcast?
2:01:36
SPEAKER_04: Um now here's the thing.
2:01:40
SPEAKER_04: With res with respect to an open case, because I've been there, I'm not gonna ask you about it.
2:01:45
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
2:01:46
SPEAKER_04: I'm not gonna ask you about it.
2:01:47
SPEAKER_04: Only because what you say can and will be used against you.
2:01:51
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
2:01:52
SPEAKER_04: And I'm not going to I'm not gonna DJ academic somebody.
2:02:00
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
2:02:00
SPEAKER_04: I'm not gonna bring them into it, you know, I'm not gonna, you know, possibly cause them to say anything incriminating.
2:02:14
SPEAKER_04: Incriminate themselves on on my platform.
2:02:16
SPEAKER_04: Um and it's just a matter of, like I said, like respect.
2:02:20
SPEAKER_04: Um, you know, listen, it's an open case, being sensitive to it, I don't want to talk about it.
2:02:24
SPEAKER_05: Okay, I think that's completely fair.
2:02:26
SPEAKER_04: And that's my only thing.
2:02:28
SPEAKER_04: Now, if it wasn't an open case, sure.
2:02:31
SPEAKER_04: We're talking about it.
2:02:32
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
2:02:32
SPEAKER_04: So now if some of you came on the show, like, does it affect anything?
2:02:35
SPEAKER_04: Like, is it you don't want to talk about it, then guess what?
2:02:38
SPEAKER_04: You don't have to do our show then.
2:02:40
SPEAKER_04: Okay, cool.
2:02:41
SPEAKER_04: It's it's it's the same it's the same thing as, you know, standing up for something.
2:02:45
SPEAKER_04: You know, like, hey, you don't want to talk about this, then you don't want to do my show.
2:02:52
SPEAKER_05: I definitely agree with you.
2:02:53
SPEAKER_05: So we're pretty much all on the same page as Ebro's just, you know, speaking about open case and his timing is really poor.
2:03:01
SPEAKER_05: Um we got uh like uh I think two more music topics.
2:03:05
SPEAKER_05: We we got um, but the the real uh thing I really wanted to speak about with you guys and pertaining to music is um we know how we progress in technology and music, you know?
2:03:16
SPEAKER_05: And before C Ds, there was uh I'm not an old nigga, so it was vinyl cassette.
2:03:25
SPEAKER_05: It was cassette vinyl C D or V.
2:03:27
SPEAKER_05: Somebody you are, nigga.
2:03:29
SPEAKER_01: I think vinyl.
2:03:30
SPEAKER_05: So vinyl cassette C D, right?
2:03:32
SPEAKER_05: I think so.
2:03:34
SPEAKER_05: Or it was one at the same time.
2:03:35
SPEAKER_04: It might have been vinyl A-track cassette C D or Yeah because A-Track is uh something that is real.
2:03:47
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
2:03:48
SPEAKER_05: So fast forward to now we have transitioned from C D to MP3 to now streaming.
2:03:56
SPEAKER_04: C D D D.
2:03:59
SPEAKER_05: So I know personally when MP3s were a thing, because I I lived in a CD MP3 era.
2:04:06
SPEAKER_05: I know personally when as as as as did I.
2:04:09
SPEAKER_05: Well, you lived in all eras.
2:04:10
SPEAKER_05: No, so fuck you.
2:04:13
SPEAKER_04: You're not that well honestly, being old, I grew I grew up.
2:04:16
SPEAKER_04: It's not a negative thing.
2:04:17
SPEAKER_04: Because cassettes is what I had in the early 90s, motherfucker.
2:04:20
SPEAKER_04: Okay, I mean, if you want to say that.
2:04:22
SPEAKER_04: Damn Brontosaurus T-Rex.
2:04:25
SPEAKER_04: Brontosaurus T-Rex, what's the difference?
2:04:26
SPEAKER_04: Do you know the correlation?
2:04:27
SPEAKER_01: I had the little toy cassettes where it's like something.
2:04:29
SPEAKER_04: Do you know the correlation between a cassette tape and a uh number two pencil?
2:04:32
SPEAKER_04: No, but I'm sure you can tell me though.
2:04:34
SPEAKER_04: You don't you honestly don't know that?
2:04:35
SPEAKER_04: No, I really don't.
2:04:36
SPEAKER_04: Do you know the correlation between the number two pencil and a cassette tape?
2:04:39
SPEAKER_01: No.
2:04:41
SPEAKER_04: Jesus, this is a good thing.
2:04:43
SPEAKER_04: This age gap is really good.
2:04:44
SPEAKER_04: No, it works.
2:04:45
SPEAKER_04: Oh, okay, so cassette tapes.
2:04:47
SPEAKER_04: Alright, so you're you know about VHSs.
2:04:51
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
2:04:51
SPEAKER_04: So you know what happens when the VCR like eats the tape and you pull it out and it's to open it?
2:04:55
SPEAKER_04: Right.
2:04:56
SPEAKER_04: So what you do is the number two pencil, the way that it's fit, it's perfectly fits inside the you know, the mechanism for the cassette tape where you turn it and rewire it.
2:05:05
SPEAKER_04: Right.
2:05:05
SPEAKER_05: Alright, cool.
2:05:06
SPEAKER_05: That's that's beautiful.
2:05:07
SPEAKER_05: I could have saved myself from getting in trouble for watching porn one time.
2:05:10
SPEAKER_05: But um yeah, I didn't know how to rewire it.
2:05:12
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, just one time?
2:05:13
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I got caught.
2:05:13
SPEAKER_05: It was one time.
2:05:14
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you learned.
2:05:14
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I wasn't gonna do that again.
2:05:16
SPEAKER_05: Like so.
2:05:18
SPEAKER_03: My bad.
2:05:19
SPEAKER_05: I thought the MP3 was the last thing.
2:05:24
SPEAKER_05: And then this conception of streaming came in, and I think streaming came in because we looked at it like this.
2:05:31
SPEAKER_05: I got a smartphone.
2:05:32
SPEAKER_05: I can store 500 MP3s.
2:05:36
SPEAKER_05: I have a smartphone and I can play every song ever created by not downloading anything to my phone.
2:05:41
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
2:05:41
SPEAKER_05: Besides maybe an app that would take up the space of one song.
2:05:45
SPEAKER_05: I think that's where streaming came from, personally.
2:05:48
SPEAKER_05: But not having an abundance of music somewhere, yeah, because the the the devices are too, you know, they can't hold like every song ever.
2:05:57
SPEAKER_05: Like I can literally listen to every song ever from the download it.
2:06:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:06:02
SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
2:06:02
SPEAKER_05: As long as I have internet connection, which is becoming readily available to everybody.
2:06:07
SPEAKER_04: So my thing is Starbucks.
2:06:10
SPEAKER_05: My thing is I thought MP3s was it, and then streaming came.
2:06:14
SPEAKER_05: And now I feel the same way again.
2:06:16
SPEAKER_05: What can surpass streaming?
2:06:18
SPEAKER_03: I mean, we haven't developed it yet.
2:06:19
SPEAKER_03: No, but like what would be the next generation?
2:06:23
SPEAKER_00: What would it even be?
2:06:24
SPEAKER_00: Holographic music in your living room.
2:06:26
SPEAKER_00: Like something like that.
2:06:29
SPEAKER_05: No, but streaming is.
2:06:30
SPEAKER_01: You in the music videos, like, I don't know.
2:06:33
SPEAKER_01: I just don't know unless it's like something, exactly, some something that's holographic.
2:06:37
SPEAKER_05: But even if it's holographic, you're still streaming it from something.
2:06:40
SPEAKER_05: So I don't think that really moves the needle.
2:06:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because I don't think anything will surpass streaming, just different ways to access streaming.
2:06:45
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but is there another I don't think so.
2:06:48
SPEAKER_01: Is there something like what would what would the name be?
2:06:50
SPEAKER_01: You know?
2:06:51
SPEAKER_01: Like we don't struggle.
2:06:52
SPEAKER_01: I mean, everything is a surprise until it's invented.
2:06:57
SPEAKER_03: The invention doesn't happen if there isn't a problem.
2:07:00
SPEAKER_03: So right now that we don't have a problem of accessing.
2:07:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, phones ain't going nowhere.
2:07:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we don't have a problem accessing music.
2:07:06
SPEAKER_03: What we may have a problem is is um finding things in a genre.
2:07:11
SPEAKER_03: Can we fix that?
2:07:12
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
2:07:13
SPEAKER_03: What needs to be fixed?
2:07:15
SPEAKER_05: Okay, so the problems with streaming, because streaming has its issues.
2:07:18
SPEAKER_05: Qual sound quality.
2:07:19
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
2:07:19
SPEAKER_05: Uh CDs are still better.
2:07:21
SPEAKER_01: Netflix needs to be fixed.
2:07:22
SPEAKER_01: That's what you think is fixed.
2:07:23
SPEAKER_05: Well, Netflix is streaming, bro.
2:07:24
SPEAKER_01: No, it is, but yeah, like they they can like the way too much! Yeah, the maybe the way that we find certain types of music or like that's what it is, like the searchable ways that we can find it needs to be fixed.
2:07:38
SPEAKER_01: Remember you were talking about those cheat codes or whatever that they were on of Netflix?
2:07:44
SPEAKER_01: Because it's so much, like we only have access to like the most popular or like music, but like let's say you want to access like music from like well, I know they have like like in Apple Music they have playlists like 80s, 90s, and things like that.
2:07:58
SPEAKER_01: But it's still not gonna have all of them.
2:07:59
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's gonna have all the popular ones, exactly.
2:08:02
SPEAKER_01: It's popular, but it's only the popular ones.
2:08:04
SPEAKER_05: But it's not like you can't find the ones that aren't popular, they're still there, you just gotta search for it.
2:08:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but then what do you search for?
2:08:09
SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm saying.
2:08:10
SPEAKER_01: What if you're trying to find artists but that aren't the popular ones?
2:08:13
SPEAKER_01: Like you don't have access to it.
2:08:16
SPEAKER_04: You said that CD quality is the best.
2:08:18
SPEAKER_04: Um no, sir, vinyl is the best quality.
2:08:20
SPEAKER_05: For my generation, I don't know.
2:08:22
SPEAKER_05: I wish I had a like vinyl.
2:08:24
SPEAKER_04: Like if you have if you have a record player good, yeah, record player, there you go.
2:08:28
SPEAKER_04: Like the sound, it it it doesn't apex.
2:08:30
SPEAKER_04: It does it doesn't qualify.
2:08:32
SPEAKER_05: It doesn't uh but for my generation, they sell they still sell those.
2:08:35
SPEAKER_01: Oh, the quality of your phone.
2:08:38
SPEAKER_05: No, no, the the sound quality between CD and P3 and streaming is CDs superior one out of all three of those.
2:08:43
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
2:08:44
SPEAKER_05: And like Red just told us, uh vinyl is the even better quality out of the ones that we have available to us.
2:08:50
SPEAKER_05: So it's just a totally different dynamic of listening to it.
2:08:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and um because I've listened to CDs, but like I don't Nah, you can really hear the difference.
2:08:57
SPEAKER_05: I'm telling you, I've heard the difference myself.
2:08:59
SPEAKER_05: Like title has a feature.
2:09:01
SPEAKER_01: I'd have to listen to it back to back to Title has a feature.
2:09:03
SPEAKER_05: It's too much.
2:09:04
SPEAKER_05: Yes, title again, they do and regular.
2:09:08
SPEAKER_01: That's when I started noticing a like wow, there is a difference of the quality of the stuff.
2:09:11
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
2:09:12
SPEAKER_05: And that and so if there's even qualities in streams, because Apple Music only has one denoting.
2:09:20
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so you listen to everything.
2:09:22
SPEAKER_05: So the issues we have with streaming so far is quality, uh, and if you go underground, there's no streaming.
2:09:28
SPEAKER_05: Right.
2:09:28
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
2:09:29
SPEAKER_05: Like a CD is gonna play my you know, Walkman.
2:09:31
SPEAKER_05: And a vinyl is gonna play.
2:09:32
SPEAKER_05: I don't all I need is electricity, right?
2:09:34
SPEAKER_05: Are they battery-powered uh record players?
2:09:36
SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
2:09:37
SPEAKER_05: And it just needs electricity, right?
2:09:38
SPEAKER_05: Uh-huh.
2:09:39
SPEAKER_05: So they have the crank ones.
2:09:40
SPEAKER_05: I don't know how old you are.
2:09:42
SPEAKER_04: That's more of a fucking Victrolian.
2:09:44
SPEAKER_05: Okay, does that play vinyl?
2:09:46
SPEAKER_01: Uh no, I think the newer ones that they make you just plug in.
2:09:49
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
2:09:49
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
2:09:50
SPEAKER_04: Like you can go to Urban Outfitters and buy uh vinyl record player uh you know, these new ones, you know, uh upgraded but still vinyl.
2:09:59
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, okay, okay, cool, cool, cool.
2:10:01
SPEAKER_05: So I just like my mind can't even think of the next product, and I guess that if we could, we'd all be rich, you know what I'm saying?
2:10:08
SPEAKER_05: So I'm rich, bitch.
2:10:10
SPEAKER_01: You know, improve the quality, maybe, but I guess there's nothing wrong with the streaming services.
2:10:15
SPEAKER_01: I would say more like like the playlists that they create or something to be improved.
2:10:19
SPEAKER_05: You get you get paralyzed by choice, like with Netflix.
2:10:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like it's so much like and it's it's also like we like I create my own playlist, but it's so hard to do, and it's a lot of energy.
2:10:29
SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna be real with you guys.
2:10:30
SPEAKER_01: So I would love to have like them just like Spotify does that.
2:10:33
SPEAKER_05: Do you guys think you get the money's worth out of Netflix or like uh I use title, but Apple Music?
2:10:38
SPEAKER_01: For sure, yeah.
2:10:39
SPEAKER_05: Cause I feel like I listen to the same six songs, I feel like I watch the same four series.
2:10:43
SPEAKER_01: Four I should Zam, I should zam every like good new song I hear.
2:10:48
SPEAKER_01: So my playlist is constantly going.
2:10:50
SPEAKER_01: It's like even it's like almost 400 songs that are keeping.
2:10:53
SPEAKER_01: I pay I pay for the Apple Music account, but I probably listen to the music the least out of everybody.
2:10:58
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
2:10:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:10:59
SPEAKER_01: Because I'm like her and my other sister.
2:11:01
SPEAKER_01: Like No, I used to listen to music more, but now I feel like nowadays I don't listen to it as as much just when I'm driving really.
2:11:07
SPEAKER_01: It's mostly because I like to watch.
2:11:08
SPEAKER_01: Or at the gym.
2:11:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I do like to repeat shows on Netflix.
2:11:11
SPEAKER_05: Podcasts have actually this is this is a shame.
2:11:13
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, on Netflix I watch the same things.
2:11:15
SPEAKER_05: But uh podcasts have actually taken up my music uh spot.
2:11:18
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, Game of Thrones is definitely coming back in April.
2:11:21
SPEAKER_05: Um Are you guys comic book fans?
2:11:23
SPEAKER_01: We just started watching season, we re-watched the whole season one yesterday.
2:11:28
SPEAKER_05: Okay, cool.
2:11:28
SPEAKER_05: Uh that's the worst season of my book.
2:11:30
SPEAKER_01: I think so too.
2:11:32
SPEAKER_01: I think it's like the worst one to watch.
2:11:34
SPEAKER_01: I didn't want to watch it.
2:11:36
SPEAKER_01: Um, the thing is, I miss so much when I was watching it before.
2:11:40
SPEAKER_05: Hold on.
2:11:40
SPEAKER_05: Starbucks and Game of Thrones go like hand in hand.
2:11:42
SPEAKER_05: So I don't understand how you do one without the other.
2:11:44
SPEAKER_05: That doesn't make sense.
2:11:45
SPEAKER_01: You don't watch Game of Thrones then?
2:11:48
SPEAKER_03: How do you how do you correlate the two?
2:11:50
SPEAKER_05: Every person in Starbucks right now's favorite, like their avatar or something, or their favorite character is John Snow.
2:11:55
SPEAKER_04: I've never watched a Game of Thrones episode in my life.
2:11:57
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you're missing out.
2:11:59
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
2:12:00
SPEAKER_01: Actually the later seasons, boom.
2:12:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I started to do it.
2:12:04
SPEAKER_00: No, it's like one of the best shows.
2:12:05
SPEAKER_00: If not the best show every time.
2:12:06
SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna be real with you, bro.
2:12:07
SPEAKER_05: If I had to suggest two shows for you to watch before you perish, because you got like six years left, I would go with He's like 77.
2:12:15
SPEAKER_05: I would go with Um Game of Thrones and Black Mirror.
2:12:19
SPEAKER_04: Because I like you.
2:12:19
SPEAKER_04: I didn't want to start with you, but I would really have a venomous comeback for you.
2:12:25
SPEAKER_04: But I like your mom as a person too much to really get that.
2:12:28
SPEAKER_05: I appreciate it.
2:12:29
SPEAKER_05: Thank you.
2:12:29
SPEAKER_04: And I and I respect you and your lady enough to not go there.
2:12:34
SPEAKER_04: I appreciate it.
2:12:34
SPEAKER_04: If you had been anybody else, I appreciate it.
2:12:37
SPEAKER_04: I would let you know that I'm at the tender age to fuck your girl or your mother.
2:12:41
SPEAKER_04: So just make it easy.
2:12:46
SPEAKER_00: When I turn 47, he needs to say that.
2:12:50
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I know, I know.
2:12:52
SPEAKER_05: You know, I gotta I gotta make fun of him for something.
2:12:54
SPEAKER_01: Another one?
2:12:54
SPEAKER_01: Oh, geez.
2:12:56
unknown: Yeah.
2:12:56
SPEAKER_01: Ace over here is bringing us a play.
2:12:58
SPEAKER_01: JP City Island of City Islands.
2:13:01
SPEAKER_05: So yeah, I would suggest Game of Thrones, but please, bro, just take the suggestion.
2:13:04
SPEAKER_05: Don't watch watch the first episode.
2:13:06
SPEAKER_05: You should watch it with someone.
2:13:07
SPEAKER_05: Watch three episodes.
2:13:09
SPEAKER_05: The first episode's brutal.
2:13:10
SPEAKER_05: It's really hard to get through.
2:13:11
SPEAKER_05: Should I be stoned watching this?
2:13:12
SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
2:13:13
SPEAKER_05: It's fantasy.
2:13:13
SPEAKER_05: It's fantasy and there's a lot of rape.
2:13:15
SPEAKER_01: Middle age, you know.
2:13:16
SPEAKER_04: You know, that's like none of that shit ever like intrigued me.
2:13:20
SPEAKER_04: Nobody's gonna be able to do that.
2:13:21
SPEAKER_04: No, but this is different.
2:13:22
SPEAKER_01: This is different.
2:13:23
SPEAKER_05: This is different.
2:13:23
SPEAKER_05: Drama.
2:13:24
SPEAKER_05: And have you seen Black Mirror?
2:13:25
SPEAKER_05: No.
2:13:26
SPEAKER_05: You gotta check that out.
2:13:29
SPEAKER_05: It's literally showing us how technology is destroying the fabric of our whole system.
2:13:36
SPEAKER_04: I mean, I already know that.
2:13:38
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but this would like it's gonna make you look at it like, oh shit, imagine if this would happen in real life.
2:13:42
SPEAKER_05: Like, it's it's it's incredible, I'm telling you.
2:13:43
SPEAKER_05: It's incredible to me.
2:13:44
SPEAKER_04: That's what I heard.
2:13:45
SPEAKER_04: It probably has happened in real life.
2:13:46
SPEAKER_04: Art imitates life.
2:13:48
SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
2:13:48
SPEAKER_05: And the new season is coming out, uh, I think December.
2:13:50
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, Charlie Beeble.
2:13:51
SPEAKER_05: December 8th, I think.
2:13:52
SPEAKER_04: What's this Game of Thrones?
2:13:54
SPEAKER_04: And then there's another the There's another fucking is this like The Walking Dead.
2:13:57
SPEAKER_05: Oh no, The Walking Dead is garbage now.
2:13:58
SPEAKER_05: I hate watch that show.
2:13:59
SPEAKER_01: I watched like five seasons.
2:14:01
SPEAKER_01: I'm mad.
2:14:02
SPEAKER_05: You know, talk about um orange is the new black.
2:14:04
SPEAKER_05: Okay, that's Lesbians and I was crying the whole time.
2:14:06
SPEAKER_05: That's what I call it.
2:14:06
SPEAKER_05: Lesbians and Joe.
2:14:07
SPEAKER_05: Um they had that Justin Beeble looking girl on there.
2:14:11
SPEAKER_05: Only the first like three seasons they've got it.
2:14:13
SPEAKER_05: Only True Blood we know is Jim Jones.
2:14:14
SPEAKER_05: That's it.
2:14:15
SPEAKER_05: Um yeah.
2:14:16
SPEAKER_05: So we gotta watch Broad City, it's serious side.
2:14:19
SPEAKER_04: You know what's funny to me?
2:14:21
SPEAKER_04: Not funny to me, but it's just ironic.
2:14:24
SPEAKER_04: That you hear about this whole shit with the Takashi situation with the whole non-tray shit, but Jim was like the first nigga in New York talking talking about non-tray.
2:14:36
SPEAKER_03: And Skullgang.
2:14:37
SPEAKER_04: Well, but I'm just saying, but I'm just saying, like, you know, he was the first one, and you know, Mel Mel Murder was next to him, you know what I'm saying?
2:14:44
SPEAKER_04: Like, this, that, and the third, but it's just like he was the one who you heard talk about to him, Cam, Jewel's, and they're like so far removed from that situation, it's crazy.
2:14:54
SPEAKER_05: There was no internet when they were uh popping.
2:14:57
SPEAKER_03: Speaking of dipset, um, is Jewell's gonna go to jail?
2:15:00
SPEAKER_03: What's going on with that?
2:15:01
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he took a plea.
2:15:02
SPEAKER_01: Oh, he did?
2:15:03
SPEAKER_01: He took it?
2:15:04
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
2:15:04
SPEAKER_04: How many times?
2:15:05
SPEAKER_05: It was like what a year and uh they did it in months, and I'm not good at math, so I was gonna Google it, but I didn't care.
2:15:11
SPEAKER_01: Probably a year and a half.
2:15:12
SPEAKER_05: It was like, what is 72 months or not?
2:15:14
SPEAKER_05: 72 months?
2:15:16
SPEAKER_01: It's not 72.
2:15:17
SPEAKER_05: Some some shit like that.
2:15:18
SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
2:15:18
SPEAKER_01: No, I thought he could be facing like five years if you went to court.
2:15:22
SPEAKER_01: No, but I think it was like no, I thought the plea, the plea was definitely one or two years, and then to trial, it was like five to ten.
2:15:28
SPEAKER_01: Five to ten was a trial.
2:15:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:15:30
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
2:15:30
SPEAKER_01: The plea was definitely no more than like two or three.
2:15:33
SPEAKER_05: I'm not I no more than three.
2:15:35
SPEAKER_05: I didn't really look at it, but it was a couple, it was months.
2:15:37
SPEAKER_05: Did he get his grill fixed?
2:15:38
SPEAKER_05: That's all I want to know.
2:15:38
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he's all loving hip hop, right?
2:15:40
SPEAKER_04: Because, you know, I was watching a couple uh different shows where he made appearances.
2:15:46
SPEAKER_01: That was like the stupidest way.
2:15:48
SPEAKER_04: One show, I think it was TRL, like his whole body.
2:15:51
SPEAKER_01: That's why you checked your own bag.
2:15:53
SPEAKER_04: And then I was watching something.
2:15:55
SPEAKER_04: Then I was watching on uh what was this?
2:15:57
SPEAKER_04: Uh one of these YouTube channels or whatever, where they yeah, well the diplomats are showing off their jewelry collection.
2:16:05
SPEAKER_04: And you had uh Jim Jones, I'm sorry, you had Jim Jones and Joel's Santana on there, and Juels was speaking, and he's speaking all funny, trying to conceal the fact that he doesn't have any teeth in his mouth.
2:16:19
SPEAKER_04: And it really gets and it gets me because I'm like, as someone with money and like that would be the first thing that I ever took care of.
2:16:30
SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, that's why I didn't understand like why Fab had bat such bad teeth for so long.
2:16:35
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, yo, fix your teeth.
2:16:38
SPEAKER_01: Like, fix your tooth.
2:16:39
SPEAKER_04: I'm saying, like, I'm just sorry.
2:16:41
SPEAKER_04: I think that once you're in the public eye and you have that type of money, that's something that should be fixed.
2:16:47
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, there's some people are just scared of, you know.
2:16:50
SPEAKER_05: I was just about to say that dental work.
2:16:51
SPEAKER_05: Right.
2:16:52
SPEAKER_04: I'm sorry, but listen, you know what's not that scary being posterized and turned into a fucking meme on social media because my teeth are this way, but I have the I have all the means to correct it, but I don't.
2:17:04
SPEAKER_05: Remember, they did not come up in an error where they ever thought that they were going to be memes, bro.
2:17:09
SPEAKER_04: Bro, you're in the public eye.
2:17:10
SPEAKER_04: I don't give a fuck.
2:17:11
SPEAKER_03: I mean, you could have been in the public eye, but like again, no, he said he came they came up in an error where it it's not.
2:17:16
SPEAKER_04: He had teeth matched.
2:17:17
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but you're not that conscious about your teeth more so they were showing what they what you say.
2:17:22
SPEAKER_05: These guys were rappers, they were rappers, bro.
2:17:24
SPEAKER_05: Teeth didn't matter to them.
2:17:26
SPEAKER_03: Bro Yo, I don't disagree with you if you're not gonna be able to do that.
2:17:29
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, back then it didn't matter as much.
2:17:32
SPEAKER_04: Now yeah, I mean it isn't listen, I don't care about what didn't matter to the majority.
2:17:37
SPEAKER_04: I'm just saying as an individual, that there's no way I would be a millionaire and have a jacked up card.
2:17:46
SPEAKER_03: I'd fight that fucking fair if that was it.
2:17:48
SPEAKER_03: And you have drugs to put you fucking up.
2:17:50
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
2:17:51
SPEAKER_05: But then you got people like J.
2:17:52
SPEAKER_05: Cole, uh, he made a song Crooked Smile.
2:17:54
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
2:17:54
SPEAKER_05: And he doesn't correct his shit because he just likes it that way.
2:17:56
SPEAKER_04: There's a difference between a crooked smile and missing teeth, my nigga.
2:17:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, crooked smile is different.
2:18:00
SPEAKER_05: Okay, uh you guys familiar with the show Black Ink?
2:18:02
SPEAKER_05: There's a girl in there, her name is Donna.
2:18:04
SPEAKER_05: Bottom row fucked up, but she got her ass done.
2:18:06
SPEAKER_05: Priorities.
2:18:08
SPEAKER_01: But the bottom row you don't see as much.
2:18:10
SPEAKER_05: According to them on the show that she did.
2:18:11
SPEAKER_04: Depends on how much competition is the season.
2:18:12
SPEAKER_04: I know her personally.
2:18:13
SPEAKER_05: Oh, really?
2:18:14
SPEAKER_05: Well, yeah, in the new season that's going on right now, season seven, they made they mentioned that.
2:18:18
SPEAKER_05: They were like, oh, she didn't get her bottom teeth fit, but she got her ass now.
2:18:21
SPEAKER_04: Oh, okay, okay.
2:18:22
SPEAKER_02: I thought it was done.
2:18:27
SPEAKER_04: Not like any mask.
2:18:28
SPEAKER_04: That ass has been real.
2:18:31
SPEAKER_04: So I don't know, it must be some new shit.
2:18:33
SPEAKER_04: Listen, I haven't really watched a new season of Black Anton.
2:18:36
SPEAKER_03: I got a question for you, Red.
2:18:36
SPEAKER_03: If you if if if you were a woman, what do you think that you would do first?
2:18:40
SPEAKER_03: Like if you had Cardi's previous girl, would you do your ass or your teeth first?
2:18:46
SPEAKER_04: I would definitely do my teeth first, bro.
2:18:48
SPEAKER_03: Would you ever do it?
2:18:50
SPEAKER_01: It depends what you're working with.
2:18:52
SPEAKER_05: Listen, this error I'll do an ass first.
2:18:54
SPEAKER_05: Listen, I'm not ass first.
2:18:55
SPEAKER_01: I'm not a if she's a celebrity, then that's different.
2:18:58
SPEAKER_01: Like if she was an obudy, I wouldn't have got my ass done.
2:19:02
SPEAKER_04: See, like, I I can't really speak on on that or whatever.
2:19:04
SPEAKER_04: Like, you know, I'm an original man about it.
2:19:06
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like he's a man, like that's a weird question I ask him.
2:19:09
SPEAKER_04: I'm not gonna sit here and you know realistically answer that question.
2:19:12
SPEAKER_04: But I can't silly question, one but I can say um because we have uh my friends and I did have that conversation as far as oh, as a man, what type of cosmetic or plastic surgery would you do to enhance yourself if you had the option and you had the means to?
2:19:27
SPEAKER_04: And my response was the only thing that I would ever do would do my grill over again.
2:19:33
SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
2:19:33
SPEAKER_04: Like do my teeth.
2:19:35
SPEAKER_01: Get invisil line and that shit.
2:19:36
SPEAKER_04: I think I'm cool, man.
2:19:37
SPEAKER_04: Honestly.
2:19:38
SPEAKER_04: I'm just saying, like, if I'm uh eye and all of that shit, then no, I'm I'm gonna do my grill over.
2:19:46
SPEAKER_04: I want I want to make sure that I got that motherfucking perfect motherfucking smile, and that's just it.
2:19:51
SPEAKER_04: Anything else, I'm I'm cool with.
2:19:53
SPEAKER_04: Like, I'm not I'm not doing a Kanye and getting liposucts.
2:19:56
SPEAKER_04: Oh, Drake also got lipocks.
2:19:57
SPEAKER_03: Kanye got life, lipo?
2:19:58
SPEAKER_04: And Drake.
2:20:00
SPEAKER_05: Come on, let's not do it.
2:20:01
SPEAKER_05: Drake got liposed.
2:20:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Drake looked like he did something to his stomach.
2:20:04
SPEAKER_01: His stomach don't look like that.
2:20:09
SPEAKER_01: Because he was just weird and flat, and you're like belly, like your belly button looks weird when you got lipo.
2:20:14
SPEAKER_01: And he had that weird with the same stomach.
2:20:17
SPEAKER_01: That it looks there's something weird about it.
2:20:19
SPEAKER_05: Hey man, these people got money and they don't got the time to be working out in the gym, so they choose toy whatever, dude.
2:20:24
SPEAKER_01: What you gotta do, but um I agree.
2:20:27
SPEAKER_05: I think um this was a very uh I know I thought his stomach was off too.
2:20:31
SPEAKER_05: Fruitful episode of uh Gas Money.
2:20:33
SPEAKER_05: We we touched on all the major things.
2:20:35
SPEAKER_05: Uh oh, did we say uh which albums we were gonna bring into or our favorite albums of 2018?
2:20:42
SPEAKER_05: Um I think we got maybe one more episode before we have to do that?
2:20:44
SPEAKER_05: Before the year reps.
2:20:46
SPEAKER_00: We could do that, yeah.
2:20:46
SPEAKER_05: Let's give it a little time.
2:20:47
SPEAKER_05: You know, somebody might do a surprise release, you know, Beyonce.
2:20:51
SPEAKER_04: We didn't get any uh questions this week for us.
2:20:53
SPEAKER_05: Um I don't have access to the Instagram page and be real true.
2:20:56
SPEAKER_05: So you need to change that.
2:20:57
SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
2:20:58
SPEAKER_05: You need to change that.
2:20:59
SPEAKER_05: Um Instagram is not my thing.
2:21:00
SPEAKER_05: I don't give a fuck.
2:21:02
SPEAKER_02: The podcast is your thing.
2:21:03
SPEAKER_02: But you can get the app just to get the page.
2:21:05
SPEAKER_02: The podcast is your thing.
2:21:07
SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna tell you the same way we've told Ace.
2:21:11
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
2:21:12
SPEAKER_04: You need access to your motherfucking Instagram to the Instagram page to check what the fuck is going on, and you need to check what the fuck goes on.
2:21:20
SPEAKER_04: Because you have Instagram.
2:21:21
SPEAKER_04: Yes, you, nigga.
2:21:22
SPEAKER_05: I guess I'm saying you're not informed enough.
2:21:24
SPEAKER_05: No, he's not no.
2:21:25
SPEAKER_05: I don't know what the fuck we're doing.
2:21:26
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
2:21:27
SPEAKER_01: It's just it's a lot goes on that we can't always read.
2:21:29
SPEAKER_03: It's just these past three weeks because of the shit that has been going on in my shop.
2:21:32
SPEAKER_03: I have not been.
2:21:34
SPEAKER_03: No, actually, yeah, because I actually Oh, you want to make fun, but I was actually one of the people bringing more of the topics in the past within the past month.
2:21:41
SPEAKER_00: What?
2:21:41
SPEAKER_00: We brought this month before the three books.
2:21:45
SPEAKER_03: We have a marital dispute on the podcast.
2:21:47
SPEAKER_03: So uh at that point, I think it's time to wrap it up.
2:21:51
SPEAKER_03: Remember bringing my gas money, that's all I'm saying.
2:21:54
SPEAKER_00: Hello, so did I.
2:21:55
SPEAKER_03: I'm not discrediting you, you're discrediting me.
2:21:58
SPEAKER_05: Everybody brought their gas money this week.
2:22:00
SPEAKER_05: I think we were able to have a full tank.
2:22:01
SPEAKER_05: So everyone brought that gas message.
2:22:02
SPEAKER_05: Yes, we can all drive out of here uh perfectly and uh nobody's gonna wrap the show.
2:22:07
SPEAKER_05: Like, I don't even know what to do.
2:22:09
SPEAKER_05: I it's not I'm not gonna open and wrap, so somebody wrap it.
2:22:13
SPEAKER_05: Uh somebody take us out.
2:22:14
SPEAKER_05: I rap got the perfect role.
2:22:16
SPEAKER_05: I mean, you want to do both?
2:22:17
SPEAKER_05: I guess it's allowed your shoulders.
2:22:21
SPEAKER_04: So I guess this hasn't uh been East Coast money, this hasn't been West Coast money.
2:22:27
SPEAKER_04: Fair.
2:22:27
SPEAKER_04: Uh this hasn't been Drake or Kanye, Kim Car Asian money.
2:22:32
SPEAKER_04: It's been gas money.
2:22:34
SPEAKER_05: Can I get a perfect?
2:22:35
SPEAKER_04: Perfect perfect!