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Telegram CEO Arrested by the French, Women are using ChatGPT to check men's height | HBR News 469 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: It's is HBr news number four sixty nine. Nice Telegram
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  Speaker 1: ceo arrested by the French women are using chat gpt
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  Speaker 1: to check on their men's height. We discussed the news
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  Speaker 1: of the week and give it the Badger.
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  Speaker 2: Treatment and what's for doing just watching?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah it looks like it. Hello everybody, and
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  Speaker 1: Brian Martinez, and I'm joined by my lovely co host,
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  Speaker 1: doctor rand Mcam and Hannah Wallin. We have a great
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  Speaker 1: show line up for you guys today, kind of a
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  Speaker 1: like I you know, there's like really big news but
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  Speaker 1: not a lot of news, and then and then there's
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  Speaker 1: little bitty news that's so sort of like we can
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  Speaker 1: be like a relatively short show compared to the normal ones,
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  Speaker 1: depending because like things, you know, you never know, you
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  Speaker 1: never know when people's the inner rant comes out. So
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  Speaker 1: the reason why, well, this week we're gonna be discussing
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  Speaker 1: the recent news of actually CEOs of social media platforms
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  Speaker 1: are kind of in the news right now. So the
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  Speaker 1: CEO of social media platform Telegram, which I use. I'm
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  Speaker 1: in a men's group in there. He's been arrested in France.
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  Speaker 1: No less women are going on dating apps and using
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  Speaker 1: chat GPT to make sure that men are not lying
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  Speaker 1: about their height. And more so, stick around, it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: afterwards for the Patren only show. So you see here
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  Speaker 1: displayed I have this. I guess it's an opinion piece.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we try to keep the actor shows light
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  Speaker 1: so that we can just kind of like laugh and
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  Speaker 1: rant about stuff. And this one comes from Ross McCrae,
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  Speaker 1: and all I know is the title. I was the
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  Speaker 1: only girl in the comic book store, so obviously we
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  Speaker 1: know her life was in danger, and plus you know
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  Speaker 1: she's in the UK. This is about as bad as
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  Speaker 1: it gets in that country, especially these days. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it sounds like she was basically experiencing terrorism. So she was.
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  Speaker 2: That's weird because ing groomed or something.
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  Speaker 3: I used to go to comic bookstores, you know, when
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  Speaker 3: when I had extra cash to spend on that kind
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  Speaker 3: of thing, and I was never the only girl in there.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but Hannah, you haven't been in the BB
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  Speaker 1: like in a British comic book store in the year
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, after they've made misogyny essentially equal to terrorism.
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  Speaker 1: So like that, it's not the people that change, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's the way that the institutions frame things that changes.
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  Speaker 1: The people you see.
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  Speaker 2: So you don't find in a comic bookstore anything but
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  Speaker 2: white men. I think, no, no, no, no, no no no,
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  Speaker 2: I occasionally because there's loads of them.
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  Speaker 3: I grew up in Ohio, and it's a different story here,
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  Speaker 3: Like there was there was no uh there there was
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  Speaker 3: no specific color of people in in the comic book store.
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  Speaker 3: There was no specific sets of people in the comic store.
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  Speaker 3: There were there were guys, there were gals, There were
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  Speaker 3: people of all races.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 3: The one that I used to like to go to
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  Speaker 3: was in Lima, which is it's one of the biggest
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  Speaker 3: small towns or smallest big cities, I guess in in Ohio.
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  Speaker 3: So it had suburbs. It has still has suburbs, but
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  Speaker 3: I mean it was a more city like environment and
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  Speaker 3: its population wasn't all from one background or anything. Everybody
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  Speaker 3: enjoys comic book stores to a degree, and they had
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  Speaker 3: a pretty big in fact, they had pretty big black
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  Speaker 3: fan base. So it's it's not like that here. It
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  Speaker 3: might be like that in the UK, but it's not
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  Speaker 3: like that here.
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  Speaker 1: When comic books were worth a damn yes. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Well these days, I'm surprised that there's anyone in the
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  Speaker 1: comic store besides this woman, because I think that's what
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  Speaker 1: books are being written for now, or people like her.
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  Speaker 1: But we'll see. Maybe. When she says I was the
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  Speaker 1: only girl in the comic book store, she means, no,
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  Speaker 1: you don't understand, I was the only person in the
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  Speaker 1: comic book store.
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  Speaker 3: That's a distinct possibility, right.
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  Speaker 1: It's sad though, sad, It is sad. Yeah, But I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, man, it's a that's another conversation. All I'm
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  Speaker 1: saying is that comic books went to crap in the West.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if you go to France, they're not bad.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know if I want to go to
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  Speaker 1: France for comic book so I don't think it's worth
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  Speaker 1: it anyway because I might get arrested. So if you'll
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: See, so you're almost you're like a You're like a fixture,
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  Speaker 1: so let us get into today's stories. We're gonna open
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  Speaker 1: up with the big one, which has a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a couple of layers to it. So Abil Durav
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  Speaker 1: hope I'm not butchering that Russian billionaire, dual citizen of
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  Speaker 1: France and Russia and CEO and owner of the messaging
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  Speaker 1: app known as Telegram has been arrested. Durov was arrested
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  Speaker 1: shortly after stepping off his private jet in Le Bourge Airport,
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  Speaker 1: which is outside of Paris. While there was initially no
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  Speaker 1: given reason or even announcement as to why Durov was arrested,
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  Speaker 1: one insider source said that he was the subject of
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  Speaker 1: a French arrest warrant. A statement from Telegram concerning the
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  Speaker 1: situation reads as follows quote. Telegram abides by EU laws,
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  Speaker 1: so European Union laws, including the Digital Services Act. Its
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  Speaker 1: moderation is within industry standards and constantly improving. Telegram CEO
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  Speaker 1: Pavel Durov has nothing to hide and travels frequently in Europe.
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  Speaker 1: It is absurd to claim that a platform or its
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  Speaker 1: owner are responsible for abuse of the platform. We are
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  Speaker 1: awaiting a prompt resolution of this situation. Euation. Telegram is
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  Speaker 1: with you all end quote. Shortly after the arrest, the
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  Speaker 1: list of charges durav face were released. They large, the
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: large majority of which stem from complicity charges, claiming that
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  Speaker 1: Dura's failure to adequately moderate his platform made him guilty
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  Speaker 1: by association. So there's a couple of people have sort
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: of you know, said some things about this. I have
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  Speaker 1: to share this. Uh yes, Chris, I'm gonna show Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Chris Pavlovski of Rumble, he made a tweet and he said,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a little late to this, but for good reason.
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  Speaker 1: I've just safely departed from Europe. France has threatened Rumble
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  Speaker 1: and now they have crossed a red line by arresting
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  Speaker 1: Telegram CEO Pavel Durov reportedly for not censoring speech because
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  Speaker 1: they're the claims are things like, you know, it's there's
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  Speaker 1: dangerous people on the Telegram platform and they're you know,
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  Speaker 1: doing scams, and they're grooming, and they're using it to
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  Speaker 1: pray on children. They're always like they do. They default
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  Speaker 1: to like the think of the children thing, and also
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  Speaker 1: spreading it's not misinformation, it's malinformation, I think, is how
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  Speaker 1: they're bringing these days malformation.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true, but they don't want you to know it.
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  Speaker 3: They don't want to use it to inform.
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  Speaker 1: Because you're sending truth out with bad intentions for the
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  Speaker 1: people in power. But anyway, Rumble will not stand for
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  Speaker 1: this behavior and will use every legal means available to
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  Speaker 1: fight for freedom of expression, a universal human right. We
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  Speaker 1: are currently fighting in the courts of France and we
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  Speaker 1: hope for Pavel Durrov's immediate release. I give it, I
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  Speaker 1: give it the floor to y'all.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, I gotta go off about something, all right.
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  Speaker 3: This is I I don't know enough about whether Telegram
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  Speaker 3: has had any kind of scams or anything like that
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  Speaker 3: going on to comment on that, but I will say this,
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  Speaker 3: Prior to to this date, there have been several other
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  Speaker 3: internationally used platforms that have come out that have had
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  Speaker 3: information come out that this is going on. Facebook is
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  Speaker 3: a big one. There are a lot of scammers on Facebook,
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  Speaker 3: and they not only engage in grooming an exploitation of
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  Speaker 3: the underage, they also exploit people who are in the
• 12:31
  Speaker 3: early stages of senile dementia. And they run all kinds
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  Speaker 3: of economic scams on the elderly who, some of whom
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  Speaker 3: shouldn't be on Facebook. But it's a lot harder to
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  Speaker 3: control that than it is to control whether your children
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  Speaker 3: are on Facebook or not. But the worst one that
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  Speaker 3: I'm aware of, there was a I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: the platform even still exists, but there was a platform
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  Speaker 3: that was for specific quickly four kids that I saw
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  Speaker 3: more than one YouTube channel doing videos where they went
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  Speaker 3: on pretended to be children on this platform. Nobody checked
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  Speaker 3: to make sure they actually were children. They didn't have
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  Speaker 3: to prove they were children, and they started talking like children,
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  Speaker 3: and in particularly they started talking like naive children in
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  Speaker 3: the chat areas this platform, and within minutes were contacted
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  Speaker 3: by predators. It took like just a couple of minutes
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  Speaker 3: of posting this or that, you know, that a little
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  Speaker 3: girl or a little boy would post and instantly it
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  Speaker 3: wasn't one predator, it was like fifty and nobody did
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  Speaker 3: anything about it. Right, The YouTubers that made these videos.
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  Speaker 3: They had to contact the authorities themselves. When they contacted
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  Speaker 3: the platform, their accounts were banned. They didn't stop the
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  Speaker 3: predators from contacting children, they stopped the people who were
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  Speaker 3: investigating from finding out more about the predatory behavior on
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  Speaker 3: the platform. And this has been going on for a
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  Speaker 3: long time. Like, if you see a platform that is
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: specifically dedicated to children, you can pretty much guarantee that
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  Speaker 3: there are predators on that platform trying to get children
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  Speaker 3: to meet up with them. And I haven't heard about
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  Speaker 3: France having anyone else arrested, but this telegram CEO, and
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  Speaker 3: the only reason appears to be that the CEO didn't
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  Speaker 3: also didn't censor political speech. So you can allow child
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  Speaker 3: predators on your platform just as long as you don't
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  Speaker 3: challenge the governments of the nations in the EU. But
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: the minute that you challenge the governments of the nations
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  Speaker 3: of the EU, everything else you do becomes a huge issue.
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  Speaker 3: That's all I have to say about it, all right.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: Mike, there's a cliche you often run into when you're
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: talking to boomers or Normis or anyone in the mainstream
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: media or their associated MPCs. It's the one that goes
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: you can't trust anything you hear on the internet. Where
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: did you hear about that fact on the internet before? Chuckle, chuckle,
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: you fool. Everything on the Internet is wrong, and so on.
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  Speaker 2: It's a sentiment that is itself taken axiomatically as an
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  Speaker 2: unchallengeable truism. And yet it's a very odd thing to say,
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: because the Internet is not an organization or an industry
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: or an ideology. It's a utility like gas or electricity
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: or the telephone. It literally is the telephone, but with pictures.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like saying you can't trust anything you hear
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  Speaker 2: on the telephone, Like, actually, it depends on who you're
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  Speaker 2: listening to. No, no, no, everything on the telephone is wrong.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: You should get your information from more reliable sources, okay,
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  Speaker 2: Like what if one to one, peer to pay communication
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  Speaker 2: with anyone in the world, such as one can get
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  Speaker 2: from the internet. If that's off the table, what else
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  Speaker 2: is there? Where do you get your information? Mister or
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: missus normany boomer NPC? Where do you go for these
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  Speaker 2: reliable sources of yours that you fill with such exclusive certainty.
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  Speaker 2: It's the TV, isn't it? And the newspapers it's broadcast media.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: And the press, i e. The legacy media. Need I
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: remind you these things are not utilities, newspapers and TV channels.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: They are organizations, They are industries, and in many cases
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: they are indeed riddled with strict ideology. They only ever
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: give you one side of the story, or zero sides
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: of a story that they're just trying to bury on
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: any given subject. They give you one narrative only, and
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: one of those narratives on one of those subjects. Funnily
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: enough is you can't trust anything you hear on the
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  Speaker 2: end of Everything on the internet is wrong unless we
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  Speaker 2: say otherwise that that advanced communication technology that poses a
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: direct competition to us and our gemony. Yeah, that thing
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  Speaker 2: is evil and wrong and we need to crack down
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  Speaker 2: on it. It's like listening to scribes half a millennium
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: ago decrying the invention of the printing press. This machine
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: is evil and wrong. You can't trust anything you read
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  Speaker 2: in print. Doesn't it depend on who's printing it?
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  Speaker 1: No?
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: No, wait ah, wait, yes, actually, if we're printing it,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: then it is happening and it's a good thing. And
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: then a couple of generations later it's okay. Now you
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: can't believe anything unless it's in print and we have
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: printed it and said so on. So it's it's like
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: listening to people from the Bronze Age decrying the advent
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: of the Iron age. No you can't just let anyone
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: smelt metal in their own backyard. Yeah yeah, no, yes
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: we can technology printer go berr and amusing, is it
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: not how often this, this luodite hysteria is asserted by
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: people who call themselves progressive. Progress is a very slippery
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: and ambiguous word when it's when it comes to politics,
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: But when it comes to technology, it's actually pretty linear.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Every new invention brings more order from chaos without uninventing
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: anything else in the process. It is it all that
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: ironic that those who call themselves politically progressive so often
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: tend to be so reactionary with regard to technological progress.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Not really know those who call themselves politically progressive, I'm
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: almost always simply lying. They don't want progress. They want control,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: especially over language. They want control over everything, but it
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: starts with language. Hence they start by establishing all these
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: euphemisms for their increasingly insane communist gobbledegook. Once you control language,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: you control information, and when you control information. You control
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: the world, for the world is made of information, folks,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: And that's not hippie spiritual talk, is physics talk. Information
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: is the one thing in the universe that cannot be lost,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: except possibly at the event horizon of a black We're
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  Speaker 2: not sure that information itself has not yet been found
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: to speak. But I digress. I've been digressing for like
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: ten minutes of them. But I'm going somewhere. Shut up,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: let me cook. It's it's difficult to describe what's happening
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: to Prevail Durroff without some kind of analogy, what with
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  Speaker 2: the details being so new fangled and esoteric. But in short,
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  Speaker 2: Telegram allows people to have encrypted connections, i e. Private conversations.
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  Speaker 2: That's the issue. These the rabid control freaks who call
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: themselves progressives. They're totally fine with the Internet existing as
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: long as they can monitor anything and everything that happens there,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: sniffing out any inconvenient truths, any mal information, and accordingly,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: carpet banning anyone who whispers them anywhere. For the most part,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: they have achieved this with Google and YouTube. They achieved
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: it with Twitter until Elon Musk threw a big old
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: monkey man away and they achieved it with Facebook. Mark
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Zuckerberg recently had a brief revelation and now he's going, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I think I might have got played there. Oh well,
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  Speaker 2: we're still.
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  Speaker 1: Going to carry on censoring you. Lol. It was a
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: double bluff. You've done Fox vout Camel.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, they they still haven't achieved this takeover with
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: gab or Minds, or bit Shoot or Odyssey or Rumble
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: or Telegram, and Telegram is the one they're really worried about,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: largely because of the of the of the robust peer
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: to peer encryption thing. But all that really means is
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: a phone call that's not being tapped. See, it all
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: makes hideous sense when you compare it with something simpler.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Pavel Giroff is being prosecuted for allowing people to talk
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: on the telephone privately without automatically monitoring the conversation and
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: recording the conversation and handing every recording to the government
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: and selling it to the highest corporate bidder, who is
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: also regulated by the government. It's as though they're arresting
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: the CEO of a telecommunications company like bt AT and
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: T because criminals are having private phone calls about criminal behaviors.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: It's like arresting the owner of a hotel because he
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: refuses to install wire taps in every room and cameras
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: in every toilet. That sounds mental, doesn't it. It sounds
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: like something that's not even close to happening, not even
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: in the disto in future in which we've already found
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: ourselves living, but in the digital world that's what's happening.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: That's how desperate they are to control this technology. Do
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: you reckon they can? An open question to the chat
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: is it even possible to put rains on this beast?
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Before you answer, I would advise you to consider China.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I've never been there, let alone attempted to use their Internet,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: but I've heard they basically have put rains on this
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: beast in Jena. They managed it because they got in
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: there quickly the in the nineties and the noughties when
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: the Internet was still in its wild West phase. But
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Western governments, yeah, they dragged their feet up the up
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: the shallow face of mount communism. They gave us a
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: good couple of decades to to get in there and
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: get the word out and to let everyone know that
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: bronze is not necessarily the way wasp be little monks
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: with their inky feathers are not necessarily the way, and
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: pearl clutching Karen's broadcasting state propaganda into our houses in
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: a monopoly of every available electromagnetic frequency is not necessarily
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: the way. As as the saying goes, nothing is more
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: powerful than an idea whose time has come. And that's
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: where it's bollocks. Actually it's one of those, is one
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: of those self referentially circular deepities. If an idea is
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: powerful enough to have worked, then it stands to reason
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: it's time has already come. If it doesn't work, you
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: can just say this time hasn't come. None of this
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: indicates whether or not it's a good idea. It's like
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: saying you can can't stop progress. Sometimes you can, and
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: sometimes you should, depending on what it is that's being
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: called progress. If killing babies is progress, maybe you can
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: and should make some attempt to stop it. But if
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: being able to have private conversations is progress, then by criche,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: we really ought to be doing everything we can to
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: protect it, because that's how checksnotes almost all conversations worked.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: For all of history.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Privacy is not supposed to be a privilege afforded only
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: to the anointed ones. Privacy is the default. Denying people
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: their privacy is like denying people their silence, like denying
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: people their peace. This, by the way, is what communism is.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: A euphemism for the abolition of private property, of private business,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: of private enterprise. We are already at an advanced stage
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: of this cancer, where even the abolition of private conversation
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: is on the cards. It's several stages through the cards.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Where the hell do we go from there? Can you
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: even imagine that future? I'm glad you asked its private thoughts.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: The next and possibly final step will be the abolition
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: of private thoughts.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: How the hell do.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: They do that? I hear you ask, and the answer is,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: of course, supremely ironic. They'll use technology. This irrational fear
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: of the Internet ought to have a name, and I
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: suppose its name could be interpreted as technophobia. But yeah, now,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: this isn't fear of technology. Megalomaniacs love technology it if
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: it gives them control. They hate technology if it gives
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: liberty to those they wish to control. It's yeah, it's
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: it's just it's it's megalomania. It's lust for power, it's
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: control freakery. That's the only constant in this rippling, electrostatic
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: sea of hypocrisy. There are far too many people out
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: here who would rather grasp at the fleeting opportunity to
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: control other people than they would fight for the right
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: to control themselves. It's sad, it's tragic, it's infuriating, and
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: it does have something to do with gender relations and gentlemen.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: But that is There is another rather long story, one
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: we've already told in some detail over these eleven odduous
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: years here at Honey Badger Radio. And yes it has
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: been eleven years now, don't forget.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: To hit Locke and subscribingly for comments. Thank you Mike
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: for saying that for me. Also, they tried to kill him. Okay,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: so not Mike. I just wanted to say.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: So.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: The excuse that they make, or the reasoning they make,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: other than the spreading of malinformation, which is a is
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: you know that's a no go for anyone with half
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: a brain cell, is that this is used for you know,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: scams and grooming and stalking and all this sort of day,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: and it's dangerous for children and beyond et cetera. All
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: social medias have that problem though, and children are all
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: over social media. So to It's not so to say
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: we're gonna arrest the CEO of Telegram because of this
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: thing that's happening on Facebook and YouTube and TikTok in particular,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: and you know, threads and whatever. Instagram is ridiculous. On
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: its face, this holds no water whatsoever. And what it
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: seems to me is that this is you know, there
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: are the government is a part of it, and there's
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: a there And I don't mean when I say the government,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: I onlyan just our government. I mean, like, obviously, the
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: European Union is acting on this, and I think we
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: kind of like predicted this way back when there was
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: like a there was an article I think it was
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: was it Article thirteen the European Union passed that essentially
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: was trying to criminalize sharing pepe memes. And it was
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: right around an election year when that happened. So this
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: is just like taking that to the next level because
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: since then, a lot more people have been doing their
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: own independent work. You know, we've talked about Rumble often
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: and the the you know, the the fact that it
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: is at least trying to be a truly free speech platform,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: and then there's like a replaced substitutes for Twitter, like, well,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: some people like true social or parlor. But I think
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: that what's Andrew Torba's one called again gab gab is
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: probably like the most like separated, also the most demonized
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: of all the platforms. And generally you know that something
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: is probably good if the media and the government either
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: ignores it or tells you it's a terrible place you
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: should never go to, that usually means you should. And
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: somebody in the chat mentioned no centralized servers, no platform,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: and that essentially it should be blockchain. Blockchain one to
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: one relays are the answer impossible to censor, so and
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I think that, yeah, there's gonna be like another another
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: level beyond that. But all I'm saying is is that
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: I stand with DROV, I stand with Rumble and any
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: alternative platforms. If they're coming after them, then you know
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: that they're probably on the right side. So oh, I know.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: One other thing too is that you know BX on Twitter. Rebecca,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: who does a lot of like reporting and researching into
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: like basically parts of the Internet where children are like
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: seriously groomed that. She talked about how there are you know,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: people on the Internet organization's cults that are looking for
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: vulnerable people to you know, drag into their into their net.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: And she said that, and I've seen scams on telegram.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: I'm on Telegram and I've seen it like all the time.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: I'll go in there and they'll be you know, catfishing.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Women will be like, hey, you know, you want to
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: see my boobies or whatever, and I'm like, no thanks.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: They'll be like money scams like oh, we got all
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: the hot lottery numbers. They'll be black market stuff. But
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: you know that's that's just those yeah, crypto scams. But
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: you know, that's just like the nature of if you
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: want it to be free and you want it to
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: be completely without any government oversight and any censorship, that's
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: what you're gonna get. And it's okay. You just got
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: to deal with that. And you know, if you have kids,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: keep them off those platforms because they're gonna run into
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, there's gonna be predators on there.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: That's just the world. The world is not It is
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: not Heaven. It is Earth, and Earth is a bad
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: place in a lot of ways. So you just got
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: to protect your kids. So that was basically the I mean,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to add to what Mike and Hannah
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: already said. I just want to add that like nothing
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: that they're accusing Telegram of is unique to Telegram and
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: so the but the CEO being targeted is unique and
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: that yeah, that that matters because they're not doing this
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: to Oh, it was one other thing I was gonna share.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: I forgot to mention this. Let me put this back
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: on the screen. So Elon Musk has also been warned.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Sandro Gozi, I think he's part of the European Union,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: says if Musk doesn't comply with our laws, the Union
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: will close X in Europe. If elmus is not comply
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: with the European rules on digital services, the EU Commission
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: will ask continental operators to block X or, in the
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: most extreme case, will impose the total dismantling of the
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: platform in the territory of the Union. So it's obviously
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's all about controlling the information and keeping
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: people from here. Let me show this with you guys,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: because you didn't see it, probably, and keeping the information
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: from basically the citizen and the individual. And they're losing
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: control of that, and I think that's why they're freaking out.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: And the fact again that this is an election year.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: It just sort of like solidifies that. So that's yeah,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: that's basically yeah, go ahead.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: There's nothing that screams super villain behavior like threatening people
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: in other countries that you're going to silence their speech
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: in order to police the people in your own country.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: Like that's there is actually saying that Elon Musk has
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: to impose European laws on everybody, whether they are European
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: or not, in order to operate in Europe. They're not
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: just saying that Europeans are are going to be censored.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: They want Musk to censor Americans as well. And this
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: isn't even the first time. I still remember right when
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Mark Pearson went through his ordeal with Sad for Us,
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: we were not allowed to say her name on Twitter,
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: like I had Twitter deleted tweets of mine that said
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: her name in conjunction with that case. Even though I'm
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: in the United States and it is not illegal in
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: the United States to name an accuser, it is illegal
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: in the UK. And so she was she was not
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: to be named on Twitter, and and they actually suspended
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: people and made them delete tweets, and they also went
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: in and just deleted tweets that that you know, you
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: knew you posted, and that had been tweets you could
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: link to up to a certain point, and then somebody
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: sees it and reports it. The next thing you know,
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: you go to link to that tweet and it's gone.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: And I've had that experience multiple times with Twitter. But
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: there is something else that does need to be said
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: about this, all right. There is a cure for, or
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: at least a mostly cure for, for predatory behavior on
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: the Internet, and predatory in particular predatory behavior toward children
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: and elderly people that are in early stages of dementia
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: or who have just slowed down. And it's family. It
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: is family unity and family care. And it's something that
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: the people who are cracking down on this stuff oppose vehemently,
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: the idea that parents should take full responsibility for their
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: children's safety. And the dumb thing is if I was
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: still a young parent and my kid was elementary school age,
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: for instance, if I let my son or my stepdaughters
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: run free in Dayton with no supervision, go a mile
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: away from from my house to the park in our neighborhood, unsupervised,
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: and they were there unsupervised, and somebody called child protective services.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: The girls never would have been allowed to come back,
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: and they might have actually taken our son like they
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: would have. They would have said, this is bad parenting.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: You can't have kids in your home. You aren't taking
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: care of them. They're in danger because of you. You're done.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: But but nobody does anything like that or talks to
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: parents about that in regard to letting their kids use
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: the Internet unsupervised, which is a much more dangerous thing
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: to do, right then then sending them to a park
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: across the street from a school. And yet we hear
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: all the time, this platform is safe for kids, that
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: platform is safe for kids. That is always a lie.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: There is never going to be a platform where the
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: people who run the platform can effectively always police what's
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: going on on their platform to the degree that you
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: should let your children use it unsupervised. There just isn't
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: a way to do that. And it's it's bad enough,
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: you know that that people think that this is okay,
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: that this is safe, and that they can just let
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: their kids use I mean, they use the internet as
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: a babysitter and these sites as babysitting sites. But it's
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: even worse, you know that that these platforms respond by
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: actively punishing people who try to alert them when there
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: is a problem. And the fact that that happens, and
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: that's the site that I was talking about, isn't the
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: only site that's done that. I got suspended on Twitter
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: for reporting pedophiles. I learned really fast. You do not
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: tell Twitter when when somebody harasses you with well, we'll
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: just we'll just say. I ended up contacting law enforcement
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: in the end and got better results, But I got
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: suspended by Twitter for reporting to them when I should
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: have reported to law enforcement in the first place. And
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: if you see something like that on a platform, where
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: somebody is attempting to rope you into a scam or
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: soliciting children, or posting images or other things that are illegal,
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: you know, by by my illegal drugs, by my illegal
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: currency scam, whatever, don't bother reporting to the platform because
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: they won't do anything about it and you might actually
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: get penalized. Document aside from don't document CP, but report
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: to the authorities, give every detail that you can, and
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: you know, block the individual and leave it at that.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: But your kids, don't give them five minutes on the
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: internet without your supervision. And if your parents are elderly,
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: check in with them frequently, you know about about stuff
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: like that because and keep in touch with them on
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: social media that they're on, because it's very common for
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: their accounts to be targeted. My parents were targeted. They
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: were still savvy enough to not have that problem where
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: they were susceptible to it, but they were targeted, and
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: you know, some of the stuff that they were targeted
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: with was it would have been transparent, much much more
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: easily transparent to them when they were younger. It wasn't
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: so transparent that they didn't feel a sense of doubt
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: in their old age and they asked me about it,
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: and that's you should have that kind of relationship with
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: the people that you're close to. And the breaking up
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: of families, the distancing of people from each other by
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: the types of policies and by the by the systems
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: that have been created by by progressive politics, is actually
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: creating an environment in which those safety measures are not
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: being taken. That contact with your parents, that that monitoring
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: of your children. You don't have a parent in the
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: home with the child, The child's online unsupervised at school,
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: the child is online unsupervised while mom or dad is
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: scrambling to make dinner after work and things like that.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: You end up with your kid getting communications from somebody
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: that they should never hear from in their entire life.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: So yeah, this is this is a result indirectly but
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: definitely a result of feminism and of progressive politics that
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: are particularly guynocentric.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah all right, well, let's you guys think about this
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: one in the comments. I'm gonna move on to next story.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: But I did get a super child from Meredith g
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: I wanted to get that in there while before I forget,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: because I will forget. So she gives us five bucks
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: and says, hbar news for sixty nine. Nice. No, it's
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: never suspicious when someone is arrested by a country at
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: an airport that is technically international space, because this isn't
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: about crimes. It's about being able to get access to
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: people's communications. Yeah, thank you, Meredith, really appreciate that. Let
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: us move on to the next story. So the rest
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: of these are really little ones. That was really the
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: main story, but I did want to address this. So
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Jade Vance was confronted at an interview. He's actually, so
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: if you don't know, if you're not American, you don't
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: pay attention. Jade Vance is the vice presidential candidate that's
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: running in twenty twenty four, and he has been dragged
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: through the mud by the media as always, just like
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: anyone who associates with the Orange Man in any capacity,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: they have to like find ways to make him look bad.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: And he was confronted on the abortion topic, which let's
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: be clear, the Democrats are running on this because it's
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: all they have, Like it's essentially how do we get
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: the woman vote. You know, yesterday, I'm Friday. I'm sorry,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: I'm Monday. Yesterday I did a fire such I thought
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: it was excellent with a gentleman named Arvis, who is
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: part of a group of ex military or former military people,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: men who have been falsely accused and they did not
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: get justice because the military judicial system is like absolutely
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: awful for men and it's all based in let's get
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: this like overweight. It's like worse than the colleges. But
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: it's sort of like the colleges, except they have their
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: own internal courts. But anyway, after the show was over,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: he and I were talking, so we didn't really get
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: into politics on the show. We've just focused on what
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: the issues was, and he said you know, I got
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: to tell you, right. I didn't want to bring it
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: up on the show because I didn't want people to
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: think I was partisan. But all of the stuff that
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about, this happened to him under the Obama administration,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: under the Democrats. And he said that he actually has
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: some Republicans that are supporting them, but that they're too
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: afraid to speak out. And I'm like, well, they probably
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: got dirt on those guys. He's like, yeah, they probably do,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: so there. But my point is is that they do
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: this because it's the same thing with the military. What
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: happened with the military is that they were essentially they
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: were like, Okay, we understand that rape culture is a problem,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: and we know this because we are told this by
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: essentially academic feminists and feminist activists organizations and feminists in politics.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: So that means because we know this is true because
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: they told us this, then that means that there is
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: this problem in the military and we just have to
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: get more convictions. And so they were literally focused on
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: we didn't get those conviction numbers up because these are
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: things must be happening because feminists told us so. So
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: a lot of guys have had their lives ruined, and
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: it doesn't like it doesn't. Some guys saw jail times,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: some guys didn't. No one did well. And the reason
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: I'm saying all that, I think you should watch the
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: fire such ch Io that it was great. But I'm
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: saying all that to set this up because this is
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: the platform. Okay, they're not running on the border, they're
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: not running on the economy, they're not running on foreign
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: wars and foreign policy. They're not certainly not running on
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: men's issues. So all they have is women's issues. And
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: the only women's issue is abortion.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: When we covered the overturning of Rob Wade way back
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: when it happened, I said, and I think we all
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: said that this is going to be their new Like
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: that's what they're gonna run on. It's gonna be everything.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: And so jad Vance was confronted by a journalist saying
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: that you know, Trump's gonna like put a a you know,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: a uh a you know, like a what did he say,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: a national abortion ban if re elected, and Vance disagreed.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: He said, Donald Trump's view is that we want the
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: individual states and their individual cultures and their unique political
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: sensibilities to make these decisions because we don't want we
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: want to have, we don't want to have a NonStop
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: federal conflict over this issue. So basically it's just an
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: issue of that. But this isn't going to stop them
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: from running with it. And I'm just I'm pointing this
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: out because there are a lot of women and they're
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: and they're all over the political spectrum. In fact, there
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: was a I just saw a study today that showed
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: like the majority of women that are voting for Kamala
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: on the abortion issue, as though it's not just like
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: their top issue, you it's the only issue is essentially
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: suburban white women, so probably women with kids. By the way,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: awful themselves.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: You know what levels are, right, No, no affluent white
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: female urban liberals. Yeah, yeah, liberals for for leftists, that
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: works just as well. But yeah, that that that sort
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: of nails. Like I was saying on I think it
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: was Thursday's show, the Democrats act like they're trying to
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: appeal to to women in general and non whites in general,
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: but they're they're appealing to Awful's affluent white female urban
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: liberals because they're approaching half of the electorate, if not
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: only because they're so good at vote harvesting, and yeah,
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: it's it's it's all smoking mirrors and and there is.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: And they're assuming they're going to be able to get
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: all the awfuls, and maybe they can, but they're only
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: going for for the for the awfuls. Like I say,
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: they they claim they're trying to get the black vote,
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: that claim they're trying to get the uh rural vote,
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: but they're not. They're just trying to get the awful
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: vote because they know who the awfuls hate. Can anyone
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: out there tell me who the awfels hate. It's it's
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: it's straight white cisgendered Christian men. It's just like you
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: saw at the d m C. None of it was
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: here's our policies, it was all here's why orange man
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: is bad, here's why really especially orange man. But we
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: are not racist. We did we did not care about
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: the color of people's skin unless unless it's orange. And
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: yes they have they have no idea of what forward is.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: All they have is is this pretzel concept of what
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: backwards is and its tradition. Tradition is weird, weird, and
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: everything else is progress, which I believe of already coming
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: in sub detail.
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: It's it's never going to end, all right, Campaigning on
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: the concept of women's issues is never going to end.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: Every politician has to pander to it. Every politician is
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: going to be involved in it, and there isn't an
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: escape from it for politicians because the largest voting block
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: that votes together is women. It's an unfortunate truth. You
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: have two groups of women that are in competition with
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: each other. And the abortion issue is and how polarized
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: it is and how prevalent it is in the discussion
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: is just a symptom of that. Right, the abortion industry
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: is women scamming women into doing the dumbest thing, one
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: of the dumbest things a woman can possibly do, and
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: that is being careless with her reproductive choices. And there
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: is no male victimization of women and as a as
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: an oppressive factor involved in that. There is no men
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: forcing women to get pregnant, There is no men forcing
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: women to have abortions. In this situation, it's women scamming women.
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: And the reason I say this is I researched this
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: in response to Guy. I can't think of the name
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: of the movie, but it was. It was basically a
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: movie made in response to the issue recently, just the
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: last few years in which they went through the story
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: a made up story of a particular woman who had
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: a medical issue and needed an abortion according to her doctor,
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: and couldn't get one because one hospital wouldn't wouldn't do
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: an abortion for her, and so you end up with
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: this whole underground system helping her, and the rest of
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: the movie is about that underground system. So I looked
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: into that under around system and it was it was
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: woman run, right, It was women powered. Women did all
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: of the footwork, all the legwork of bringing women in
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: to have abortions. And occasionally they would involve a doctor
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: an obgn that was a man who was sympathetic to
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: women's causes, but the women were in charge and it
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: was the women who were seeking abortions. And the number
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: of abortions that are estimated to have been done annually
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: by this group, this movement is far more than people
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: would imagine because they talk about it like women only
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: sought abortions through them for medical reasons, right, the movie
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: presents it that way, But when if you look into
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: the numbers, the number of abortions that were done annually
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: by this indicates that women were seeking abortions from illegal
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: abortions from them for the same reasons that they seek
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: abortions legally. Today, there are over half a million abortions
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: done annually in the United States. It is big business.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: It is lucrative for Planned Parenthood and other organizations that
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: do this business. And it's lucrative at both ends because
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: they charge to perform the procedure and then they sell
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: the parts. They sell the body parts. And I don't
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: care how you excuse the selling of the body parts,
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: They're still selling parts of dead bodies. So this idea
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: that there's any male victimization of women involved in is bullshit.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: It's women exploiting women, and a lot of the women
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: that go do this later regret it. Many of them
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: are naive. Many of them believe the bullshit about well,
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: it's just tissue, you know. Well, it's not a living thing,
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: you know. Even though they go through school and they
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: learn all about reproduction, they learn all about what constitutes
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: living organism and everything, they get convinced that this particular
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: living organism that has human DNA is not a living
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: human organism and therefore, you know, they can kill it.
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: And at the other end of it, the primary objectors
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: to abortion are women who have figured out that it's
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: a scam. It's not men trying to police women's bodies.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: It's women trying to get women to understand that this
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: is a dumb idea and you shouldn't do it, and
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: it's better to prevent being fake with the possibility in
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: the first place by being careful with your reproductive choices.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: And uh, the women who are pro abortion hate us, right,
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: They hate us because we are suggesting that women should
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: use the tools available to them, and girls should use
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: the tools available to them to avoid getting pregnant in
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: the first place when they're not ready to have a
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: baby and they're not going to raise that baby with
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: with a man that they've they've gotten pregnant by right there,
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: then they shouldn't do it. Shouldn't shouldn't get pregnant in
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: the first place. And it's not like women don't have
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: a plethora of ways to prevent that. You absolutely can.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: There are. There are literally dozens of ways to prevent pregnancy,
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: so it's not difficult, it's not rocket science. It's not
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: even expensive to prevent pregnancy. So, uh, yeah, the issue,
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: the issue is not a men's issue, right, The only
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: aspect of it that is a men's issue is that
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: a woman can kill your baby and there's nothing you
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: can do about it. That is a men's issue.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: Men.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: Men have no way to stop it, and as far
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: as you know men's ability to deal with that, it
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: goes up to the line of the discussion about sexual violence,
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: because a woman can also get away with raping a
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: man and then killing his baby and there's nothing he
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: can do about it, and if she doesn't, she can
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: get child support. Men have no equivalent recourse. So there's
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: really no making this an issue of men attacking women, right,
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: But what do we hear from women on both sides?
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: What do we hear from conservative women when they talk
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: about abortion and what a bad thing it is. They
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: treat it like it's men scamming women. And what do
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: we hear from progressive women when they talk about abortion
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: and how important it is to them. They treat it
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: like it's men trying to take it away from women.
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: They're both lying. Both sides know. Women on both sides
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: know that this is an issue of women scamming women,
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: and they still blame men if they're going to do that.
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: On the absolute most contentious issue, the issue where the
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: other side is always the devil, no matter which side
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: you're on, no matter what angle you take, the other
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: side is always the devil that tells you how women
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: treat men in regard to any kind of issue that
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: can be considered a gender issue. Politicians have to run
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: for office in that environment. So what you should look
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: for in terms of a politician while we're waiting for
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: one to come along that doesn't pander to women at all,
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: is look for the politician that at least tries to
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: pander to a women's sense of accountability. That's about the
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: best we're going to get right now, right the politician
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: that says, we can see that when women take control
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: of their lives and make mindful decisions and don't do
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: stupid shit, their lives are better. And so we want
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: to advocate for women to be able to make those
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: choices and to be encouraged to make smarter choices. So basically,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: the candidates that want to see family protected, the candidates
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: that want to see women discouraged from engaging in stupid
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: choices like abortion. The politicians that are willing to call
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: women out for being childless cat ladies, and criticizing a
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: man with a family as a weirdo. Right, the women
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: who lie about men, the women who make false allegations,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: and the women who lie about masculinity. Right though, that's
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: about as good as we're going to get. We're lucky
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: that a politician will even do that until we push
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: more in our society. And the Overton window is heavy,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: but until we push more in our society to make
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: it the norm for people to recognize is that when
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: women make bad choices, it's their fault and the consequences
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: of those choices are their fault. This is this is
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: all we're going to get.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's the reality. Like, we're not ready for
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: anything more than this, because women are not ready.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: So far be it from me to prescribe what Americans
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: should be voting for. But there is some logic and
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: indeed some pragmatism that can be sprinkled on this situation.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: I say this for the sake of those who gravitate
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: to the hard line of pro life. Those are few
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: who are turning away from Trump because he's not hard
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: line enough on the subject. This is a sentiment that's
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: being meaned right now. So I'll do my best to
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: join in with the meming and and the back and
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: forth and whatnot. Ahem, Candidate A wants to kill ninety
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: percent of babies nine zero. Candidate B wants to kill
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: zero point zero one percent of babies. But I want
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: to kill zero percent of babies. So I don't know
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: who to vote for. None of these options meet my criteria,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: so I'll guess I'll just I'll just vote independent. Oh wait,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: that guy, that guy just sided with the guy who
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: wants to kill zero point zero one percent of babies,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: and that seems to have lowered the aggregate total. Is
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: it zero percent yet? No, it's it's now zero point
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: zero zero one percent. Oh well, never mind. If the
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: candidate who wants to kill ninety percent of babies happens
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: to get in, then that's life. There was nothing I
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: could have done to stop it. This will be written
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: on your gravestone, America. It's already written on ours.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: I knew I would never be a good example, but
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: I knew I could be a hideous warning.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: That's probably better, all right, So we're gonna move on.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: But first I did get a super chat from Richard Bierre.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: He gives us five dollars and says did you hear
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: about hasan Piker getting kicked out of the DNC Convention.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: Also saw a humorous clip where someone being introduced as
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: an illegal immigrant was being denied entry into the DNC
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: convention because he didn't have ID and other credentials. No, I,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: I haven't really been following it, but that is kind
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: of hilarious or true. Yeah, so thank you Richard Pierre
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: for that. We're gonna move on to the final story.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: Let's bring it up here this one. I don't know
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: if this is cringe or if it deserves like applause.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but it appears. Let me just share that.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: Oh I am sharing this one. That's good. Okay, So
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: it appears that single girl single women are using chat
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: GPT to expose men for lying about their height on
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: dating apps. You little liars. So this is kind of
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: a short one. Why don't I you know what, Let
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: me see if I have the right, because I'm pretty
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: sure that I. Yeah, I did do this one. Okay.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: Some men on dating apps have apparently been misleading potential
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: partners about their height, but women are now using AI
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: specifically chat GPT, to catch them in the act. Just
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: see More of venture capitalists shared that women can upload
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: photos to chat GPT, which can estimate a person's height
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: based on proportions and surroundings. More tested this on friends
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: and family, and the AI's estimates were within an inch
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: of the real height. This development could spell trouble for
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: shorter men who have been exaggerating their height, as studies
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: show women generally prefer taller men. Despite chat GPT's ability
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: to expose these deceptions, the AI alsose or other purposes
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: in case you guys don't know, like helping with every
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: eight tasks and and also acting as a matchmaker. Apparently,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: More suggests that gen Z women are particularly adept at
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: finding innovative uses like this one for chat GPT.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: I reckon, I'm thinking right now what a lot of
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: people are thinking right now. I'm okay with this. As
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: long as y'all are okay with that app that removes
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: women's makeup, that you'll remember that.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: What about?
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: What about?
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: What about if men use the app to to get
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: chat GPT to estimate their weight?
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that women live about it and their age and
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: their age. Women live about their age all the time.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: That's a big one is how many women say they're
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: thirty nine and counting for the next fifty years after
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: they turn thirty thirty nine using.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: AI to figure this shit. When photo Shop was was
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: decades ahead of the game, doing for women what apparently
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: only AI can can crack through when it when it
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: comes to men. And this is what I mean about
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: the the app that removes women's makeup, that really pissed
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: them off. You know, you know why it pissed so
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: so many women off to be able to see their
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: faces without the makeup because the app was so fucking good,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: because it was so accurate. These these caked up women
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: are because of that app became they were thrust face
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: with their real face.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: You mean like like face cake or like cake cake.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: I mean probably both.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, yeah, to watch out or you know
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: women women object to being caked in the mouth.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it it That app actually showed you what
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: Anakisparian looks like without the thousand layers of clown. Dave
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: Cullen actually met Anna Kasparian at Vidcom twenty seventeen. We
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: were there, We were I remember.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: Dave Colin what's up bruh here?
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: He and Dave showed me this selfie that he took
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: with this random hag, this holy unremarkable swamp donkey, and
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: Whoa, Mike, you can't call women hags. That's an anti
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: Semitic remark. I don't know if you know. It's an
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: anti Semitic trope to call.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: A woman even though she was a woman. When Dave
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: showed me this photo and he's like, Mike, and then
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: I'm like, who's that and he's like, it's fucking Anichasparian.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: It's not even the same person. I swear it. I
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: don't even know how he recognized her. I could have
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: walked right past her and thought that just that looks
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: like someone you'd see on an Egyptian street corner selling
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: fal affl or something. I'm not surprised, but at the
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: same time, I am. When you've got the clown face
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: on Nanna, you are And yeah, this is why I
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: refuse to participate in these parlor games people play like
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: is she hot? Talking about some celebrity or other, would
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: you is she hot? I don't know how, because my
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: answer is I don't know. I can't see her face.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: Ninety nine times out of one hundred, you're not looking
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: at a human face, You're looking at a thousand layers
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: of clown So you're just asking me, do you think
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: this woman's clown face is hot? And I actually no, mate,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: come to think of it, Joe, I'm going to confess something.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: I have never had any sexual thoughts while looking at
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: a clown face. I don't do I need therapy? Am
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: I am? I am? I weird? But yeah, by all means,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: use AI to determine how to all a man is
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: so he doesn't trick you into receiving misleading impressions about
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: his measurable esthetic attributes. If you want, if you want equality,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: this is the kind of equality I'm on board with.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: Anyone can use any app or any AI that can
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: unweave the tapestries of esthetic deception that are available to
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: and implemented by anyone else. I think this is this
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: unanimous or not? Can we shake on it? Can we?
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: And yes we can, until that too, becomes illegal and
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: the CEO of the app that removes makeup from women's
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: pictures gets arrested and imprisoned for twenty years, while the
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: multi billion dollar industry that paints a thousand clowns on
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: the faces of a billion women remains mysteriously too big
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: to fail. You can't arrest the majority. That's the fucked
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: up thing. Like we were talking about last week with
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: how misogyny is becoming a terrorist offense in the UK,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: nobody expresses even a fraction of misogyny that is even
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: comparable to the fountain of miss injury that will spew
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: from the mouth of every other human being. If miss
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: andrey was illegal, like misogyny is illegal, you would have
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: to arrest half of the population. So of course it's
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: not going to happen. Even if they made miss andrey illegal,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: no one would be arrested. The police and the courts
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: would simply never recognize anything as missentry no matter what,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: no matter how much people say I hate men, I
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: want to kill all men, I'm going to kill all men. No, nothing, No,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: it's some mysonry. Nothing is misistery. And yes it's not
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: just a legal master when it comes to these these
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: this gigantic fat bird blockage of myssonry in the system.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: We can condemn men who lie about their appearance because
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: there aren't very many of them, and we can easily
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: pick them off. Starting with Trump, right, he wears makeup. Wow,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: what a narcissist. But if we condemn women who lie
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: about their appearance by wearing makeup, we'd be condemning really
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: rather a lot of women more than we But yeah, well, yeah,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: I mean based why not. I'm just illustrating the imbalance
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: of the situation. The more imbalanced it is, the harder
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: it is to correct that imbalance. And boy, howdy, rue,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: are we ever at the point of imbalance where it
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: looks like nothing but a herculean effort can bring back equilibrium.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: We need to work together, folks, put a petty differences
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: aside and face the largest problem we have. No, it's
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: not the immigrants. It's the horribly broken state of gender
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: relations going on in this imploding empire of us. Everything
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: else is a symptom. You guys know that.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: And I'm just.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: Saying, get the word out so someone can carry on
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: culling the leaves of this ideology. But someone else needs
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: to be there pulling out the roots of it. Don't
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: work your fucking chop chop. You like how I managed
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: to extract a motivational speech from the vapid shlock that
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: is this article, subscribe.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: To what's really interesting to me. Here is the bigger
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: picture on this in regards to dating and what it
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: says about the rift between men and women, Because where
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: we're looking at a situation here where women get mad
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: if a man is more than an inch shorter than
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: he than he than he estimates, than he says he
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: is right, and they're using UH chat GPT chat GPT
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: two uh to actually check this. Meanwhile, these same women
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: are perfectly comfortable wearing fake hair, a fake face, fake boobs,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: a fake ass, wearing clothing that restricts their body from
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: showing its true shape. There's literally underwear you can buy
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: that you have to roll up over your fat rolls
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: that can significantly shrink them, especially if it's that that loose, fluffy,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: cellulate kind of fat. Right, these same women wear all
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: that stuff, that combination of prosthetics and corsets or other
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: cinching devices to hide their appearance. But they're mad if
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: a man is a little bit shorter, then they want
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: him to be. They don't care about his personality, They
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: don't care about whether he is full grown adult or not,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: or at least three and ten of them don't care
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: if he's a full grown adult or not. Right, But
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: they give a crap whether he's tall, because being tall
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: is apparently more important than anything else. And yet these
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: are the same women, when asked what they bring to
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: the table, who will tell you they are the table.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: They want a man who makes six figures. They want
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: him to be six feet tall. They want a guy
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: with a big dick, even though that doesn't really make
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: a difference in terms of sexual pleasure. They just want
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: it there for looks, right, But they are the table.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: Do they have a job?
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: Do they have a kid by some other guy? Probably?
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: Are they real half the time?
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: No?
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: And I don't even mean are they ai? I mean
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: are they fake personalities? Do they fake everything you know?
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: Do they fake being nice? Do they fake being interesting? Yes,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: it's not just the fake hair, it's not just the makeup,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: it's not just the fake boobs. It's not just a
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: fake ass. And by the way, when a woman once
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: wants to look taller than she is, she wears high heels.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: I used to have a pair of six inch heels,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: and I'm tall, and by comparison, i'm tall even now
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: that I've shrunk, I'm still taller than the average woman.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: Nobody complains about that. Women faking their height, women faking
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: everything about their personality, women patting their resume when they're
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: claiming they are the table. But yeah, men, men have
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: to be totally open books, totally real, and totally perfect,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: or they don't deserve relationships. This is why there is
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: a gap, why there's a gulf between men and women,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: because women take no accountability whatsoever for their end of
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: a relationship. They don't feel obligated to bring anything to
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: the table, they don't feel obligated to be worth partnering with,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: and they don't feel obligated to be a partner in
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: the relationship. But they sure as hell want you to
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: do all those things right. Why on earth would there suddenly,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: in this environment be an epidemic of women who are
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: single that wouldn't have been single ten or fifteen or
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: twenty years ago.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's that.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: Maybe it's the fact that men are fed up with
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: that shit. Maybe it's the fact that a large majority
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: of women aren't worth having relationships with. Maybe it's the
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: fact that being involved isn't a relationship when it comes
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: to a large majority of women. So yeah, they they
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: can make it tall order all they like, But if
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: they really want to find the man they're looking for,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: maybe women need to grow up and instead of trying
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: to catch him in a lie, they should remove the
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: board from their own eye before addressing the spec in
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: their neighbors.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: Well said, well, thank you Hannah for that, And let
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: me just make sure there's no super chows or super
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: chats or anything that I'm missing here. I don't think so,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: So we're gonna end the show there. Yeah, I got
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: not much else to add, So, yeah, it was all
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: very good. I mean, it just sort of shows that, like,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: as there are more tools that I think allow women
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: to be more and more selective, then there will be
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: more and more disparages disparities because there will be like
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: more and more reason for women to not settle ultimately.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: And these are just like little ways that it just
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: kind of shaves away at that, right because and the
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: funny thing is, too, is that the accuracy can be
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: off by like an inch. It's probably not even proven,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: so women might make really important decisions potentially potentially based
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: on very shallow reasoning coming from this app So but anyway,
• 1:19:31
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  Speaker 4: Yes, are machines, dude. Okay, they are literal machines. They
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 4: are talking point machines. They are impossible to fucking deal with,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: especially if you have like especially if you have like
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: a couple of dudes who have good memory. On top
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 4: of that, too, Holy shit, you're fucked