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Back from the Beach with Rachel Recchia · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Hey guys, what's up.
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  Speaker 3: It's almost famous. It's Jess Ashley right now because Ben
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  Speaker 3: is stuck in traffic. So if you see him, just
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  Speaker 3: like pop into this interview, know that he's late to
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  Speaker 3: arrive but always appreciated when he's here. The other person
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  Speaker 3: that I have in the room with me digitally is
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  Speaker 3: Rachel Rekya.
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  Speaker 4: Hello, Rachel.
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  Speaker 5: Hi, ash It's fine. I like it better home me
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  Speaker 5: just do us too anyway, Love you, Ben?
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, why do you say that?
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  Speaker 5: The last time meet you and Gabby did that girl
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  Speaker 5: chat one was probably one of my favorite podcasts I've
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  Speaker 5: ever recorded.
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  Speaker 3: We did, we had some good tea in that, but
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  Speaker 3: you know what we didn't have And not to like
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  Speaker 3: make this interview not about you right off the bat,
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  Speaker 3: because I want it to be about you because you're
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  Speaker 3: about to be a star on Bachelor of Paradise. But
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  Speaker 3: at that point Gabby was dating her girlfriend Robbie, and
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  Speaker 3: nobody knew in that room I'm assuming except for.
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  Speaker 4: You, Yes, yes, Gabby.
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  Speaker 5: It was kind of like very under wraps for a
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  Speaker 5: long time, which I love that they did. They kept
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  Speaker 5: it kind of just in between them too. But yes,
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  Speaker 5: very exciting just met Robbie. Actually she is so incredible,
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  Speaker 5: so very happy for them both.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, nice, So how did Gabby come to you saying
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  Speaker 3: that you had a girlfriend after you guys both had
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  Speaker 3: a big pool of men to date together.
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  Speaker 5: Ye As, So she had just gotten off of Dancing
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  Speaker 5: with the Stars tour, which was just a whirlwind, and
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  Speaker 5: we were out to dinner, we were catching up, and
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  Speaker 5: she just kind of mentioned that she had been like
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  Speaker 5: thinking about it, that she had.
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  Speaker 4: Gone on a couple of dates.
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  Speaker 5: And I think at this point her date was set
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  Speaker 5: up with Robbie, but I don't think she had gone on.
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  Speaker 4: So we were all just super excited, so happy for her.
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  Speaker 5: I think discovering that part of yourself is so huge,
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  Speaker 5: so just like being able to be a part of it.
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  Speaker 4: I just am so happy for her.
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  Speaker 3: So there's some people out there saying that like Colton dated,
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  Speaker 3: you know, he had a whole season of girls to date,
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  Speaker 3: and then like the girls could have felt possibly, you know,
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  Speaker 3: let on when they find out that he's actually interested
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  Speaker 3: in men years later. So within a year, the guys
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  Speaker 3: of your season find out that one of the girls
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  Speaker 3: that one of the girls that they were dating ends
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  Speaker 3: up to be interested in women. Do you think there's
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  Speaker 3: a double standard on how the reaction went down between
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  Speaker 3: Colton and Gabby.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's a little different. Well, actually, I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I would assume Colton is only interested in men because
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  Speaker 5: you didn't like a where is dated men, she was
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  Speaker 5: engaged to a man. I think she will always have
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  Speaker 5: a part of her that still is interested in men.
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  Speaker 5: But I think right decided to explore something she maybe
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  Speaker 5: has in the past.
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  Speaker 4: And I really feel like it's been.
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  Speaker 5: All positive across the board from the guys I have
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  Speaker 5: heard speak about it. So I don't know, like, what
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  Speaker 5: do you think about it?
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  Speaker 3: No, I think that I think that it's really nice
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  Speaker 3: that everybody is just saying, you know, she they're they're
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  Speaker 3: happy that she's just doing her thing. Yeah, I'm happy
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  Speaker 3: when you ever she's with whoever, you know, whatever their sex.
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  Speaker 5: Right, because I've seen comments too and they're like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 5: the whole season was a waste, Like it was a
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  Speaker 5: waste no matter what, just because we both didn't end
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  Speaker 5: up engaged.
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  Speaker 4: So I guess it really doesn't matter who she dates.
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  Speaker 3: After speaking of your season being a quote waste, which
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  Speaker 3: you guys got plenty from it, even if you didn't
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  Speaker 3: get fiances.
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  Speaker 2: That's stuck, Tino has.
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  Speaker 3: Said recently, and he's actually been quite quiet, so I'm
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  Speaker 3: surprised to hear this headline from him. Maybe we're misinterpreting it,
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  Speaker 3: but he said that he is planning on watching your
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  Speaker 3: season A Bachelor in Paradise. How does that make you feel?
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  Speaker 4: Well, that wasn't the full quote, Okay, what is it?
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  Speaker 5: No, he said he said he will be watching, but
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  Speaker 5: he will not be watching me.
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  Speaker 2: Woo.
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  Speaker 3: So he's just gonna press fast forward through you.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know, maybe it's just to close his eyes
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  Speaker 5: every time I come on screen. I was very shocked
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  Speaker 5: to see that. Honestly, it feels like so much time
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  Speaker 5: has passed. I mean, I talked to you the last time.
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  Speaker 5: We know he's moved on, he's dating, so happy for him,
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  Speaker 5: like wanting him to be happy, so kind of hearing
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  Speaker 5: the negative remarks, it was very shocking.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, a little disappointed. Honestly, that is super.
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  Speaker 3: Weird, Like why would he even be invested enough to
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  Speaker 3: watch the show if he's going to be fast forwarding
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  Speaker 3: through you? Like, why does he care so much to
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  Speaker 3: watch the show to like have to go through the
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  Speaker 3: you know, difficulty of fast forwarding through you on a
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  Speaker 3: show that like you're gonna be very intricately a part of.
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  Speaker 5: He said he wanted to watch Tyler and Avon, who
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  Speaker 5: you know may or not be on the be We'll see.
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  Speaker 3: I think we don't see them in previews.
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  Speaker 5: I mean there is one fully about Tyler's apps, Okay,
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  Speaker 5: but never you never know who's gonna show up.
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  Speaker 3: We think we know that Brayden shows up, and we
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  Speaker 3: know that they placed you guys next to each other
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  Speaker 3: at one of the recent tell alls.
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  Speaker 4: Why with Braiden? Yeah, who knows. Everyone's gonna have to
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  Speaker 4: tune in and find out.
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  Speaker 3: We recently also heard from Wells regarding Bachelor and Paradise
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  Speaker 3: cast that this cast has more former leads than anyone
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  Speaker 3: else any other season, and I was like, hmm, but
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  Speaker 3: all I can think of cast wise is that Rachel
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  Speaker 3: is a former lead. And then he told us we'll see.
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  Speaker 3: So so I'm looking at your and it's kind of telling.
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  Speaker 3: Is the entire Bachelor of Paradise cast released yet? Or
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  Speaker 3: are we going to have somebody who's not on the
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  Speaker 3: list or not showing up at all in the teasers
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  Speaker 3: we've seen thus far.
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  Speaker 5: I think that this season is definitely stacked with bachelorettes.
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  Speaker 5: I think the more bachettes the better, honestly. But who
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  Speaker 5: is going to stay to date? Who's just coming down,
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  Speaker 5: you know, to deliver a date card. That's going to
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  Speaker 5: be something that everyone's going to have to tune in
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  Speaker 5: and find out.
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  Speaker 4: I for sure I am there to date.
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  Speaker 5: But everyone else will have to wait and see what
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  Speaker 5: they come down to the beach to do.
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  Speaker 3: What encouraged you to go on this on Bachelor in
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  Speaker 3: Paradise because before Becca Kuferin kind of well, she got
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  Speaker 3: great success from going on Bachelor in Paradise and she
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  Speaker 3: was a former lead, very popular one. She sort of
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  Speaker 3: I think paved the way for it to be cool
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  Speaker 3: and acceptable for a former lead who didn't have success
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  Speaker 3: in the past to go on another bachelor show. So
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  Speaker 3: was there any convincing that needed to happen with you
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  Speaker 3: or were you pretty much like, yeah, I love this experience,
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  Speaker 3: We're just gonna do it again.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. So I this all started out as something where
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  Speaker 5: they were kind of like, would you be interested? I
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  Speaker 5: was like yeah, like joking, never thinking it was gonna happen,
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  Speaker 5: and we start getting closer and closer to it, and
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  Speaker 5: I start thinking about it as more of a possibility.
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  Speaker 4: But it's actually funny because you.
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  Speaker 5: And Ben were the two people who found out first,
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  Speaker 5: because at the.
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  Speaker 4: Time I was still keeping yeah, and the last time
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  Speaker 4: we were together, you guys were like, are you gonna
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  Speaker 4: do it?
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  Speaker 5: And Ben actually had an hour drive back with him
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  Speaker 5: and he really convinced me.
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  Speaker 4: I was so on the fence.
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  Speaker 5: And then Becca was the one I ultimately talked to
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  Speaker 5: that really convinced me to go. And there's just so
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  Speaker 5: much like success obviously you Jared Dawson, like, how can
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  Speaker 5: you not take that opportunity if it's in front of you,
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  Speaker 5: especially because mine it wasn't even like I got to
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  Speaker 5: be successful for a little bit, like it failed before
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  Speaker 5: the show even ended. So it was just I figured,
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  Speaker 5: if if this is gonna work for me, it's gonna
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  Speaker 5: be paradise.
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  Speaker 4: And you guys all convincing and here we are.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm so happy about that because I'm just such
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  Speaker 3: a fan of the shows and I'm also just such
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  Speaker 3: a fan of the experience. Yes, it like led me
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  Speaker 3: to absolute wonderfulness with my family, today, But it's just like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. The growth that happens when you've partaken
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  Speaker 3: one of the shows and the friendships that are formed,
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  Speaker 3: just like always seems worth it to me. And I
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  Speaker 3: know that like other lums may not feel as passionate
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  Speaker 3: about it as I do, but like I'm always like, oh.
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  Speaker 6: They like want you back.
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  Speaker 2: You have to do it.
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  Speaker 3: It's gonna be so great, and you know.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know, yeah no, but like exactly what you said,
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  Speaker 5: I feel like I feel so strongly about it and
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  Speaker 5: doing it three times, it was such a different experience
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  Speaker 5: each time, and you probably felt the same way each time.
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  Speaker 5: You do it so different and I'm so so happy
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  Speaker 5: I did it.
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  Speaker 4: My favorite experiences A part is franchise.
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  Speaker 6: Honestly totally agree.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so you are also in Paradise with a few
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  Speaker 3: guys from your season. I know that in our last
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  Speaker 3: interview you said that you were like pretty much not
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  Speaker 3: interested in revisiting anybody from your cast. However, when you're
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  Speaker 3: there in Paradise and underneath the Bachelor bubble again and
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  Speaker 3: you kind of lose all space and time, did feelings
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  Speaker 3: reemerge for anyone in your past?
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  Speaker 5: So I wanted to go down and I know the
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  Speaker 5: last time we talked to Mike, you know, I would
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  Speaker 5: never do it again, but I wanted to really give
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  Speaker 5: Paradise the chance it deserved fully, and I think I'm
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  Speaker 5: not the same person that I was when I was
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  Speaker 5: the bachelorette, So these guys have probably changed so much too,
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  Speaker 5: not that they needed to, but being able to meet
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  Speaker 5: some of these guys again for the second time, it
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  Speaker 5: was really incredible.
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  Speaker 4: And I mean, maybe.
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  Speaker 5: Not to give too much away, but I think there
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  Speaker 5: might be a little bit of a rekindling, maybe with
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  Speaker 5: an ex flang, So we'll have to wait and see.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, I was definitely super excited to see some
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  Speaker 5: old faces down on the beach.
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  Speaker 3: Cool good answer. We like to hear that because it
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  Speaker 3: gets us excited. Was what was the guy that you had,
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  Speaker 3: like on your list that you wanted to meet down there?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So I actually didn't have a list, which.
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  Speaker 5: I I know, I thought the list was like not real.
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  Speaker 5: I thought it was just kind of like people were like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: I want to see so and so. So I came
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  Speaker 5: down just fully like like wanting to meet everyone and
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  Speaker 5: just experience it. And I think that might have hurt
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  Speaker 5: me just a little, just because I don't think I
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  Speaker 5: was as prepared as they came down with plans, plans A, B,
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  Speaker 5: and C, and I was just I don't think people
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  Speaker 5: expected me to be there, and then I didn't have
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  Speaker 5: a plan, so I was floundering a little bit. I
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  Speaker 5: feel like in the beginning trying to catch my footing.
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  Speaker 5: It was definitely a transition, but I eventually feel like
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  Speaker 5: I got the hang of it.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe should have planned a little bit better.
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  Speaker 3: Wells told us that you were kind of like a
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  Speaker 3: Mama Bear figure almost because you have been so experienced
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  Speaker 3: in the process that possibly you were like more of
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  Speaker 3: a guider than like somebody jumping into the dating pool.
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  Speaker 3: Does this have to do with you not having numbers too?
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  Speaker 5: I definitely had a conversation with Wells. He definitely kind
• 12:06
  Speaker 5: of had to steer me in the right direction because
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  Speaker 5: I feel like I've just done this process in so
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  Speaker 5: many different ways that I, you know, wanted to help
• 12:16
  Speaker 5: everyone and give everyone advice, and then I kind of
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  Speaker 5: put myself in the situation where maybe I was like
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  Speaker 5: friend zoning myself to everyone without realizing.
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  Speaker 4: It because I was just trying to comfort everyone.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, he definitely had to give me a little
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  Speaker 5: bit of a talking to get.
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  Speaker 4: Out of that mind zone.
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  Speaker 5: It was just a hard transition from like batcherette onto
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  Speaker 5: the beach. So yeah, I definitely struggled just a little
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  Speaker 5: bit in the beginning, and I think.
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  Speaker 3: Well, what are you looking for and a guy there
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  Speaker 3: that you haven't found before.
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  Speaker 5: I think mainly I really really wanted to meet someone
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  Speaker 5: who I was able to form a really solid friendship with. First, Okay, like,
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  Speaker 5: these are the values I want, and of course those
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  Speaker 5: are still the things I want, but I wasn't prioritizing
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  Speaker 5: like a friendship, and I think that's what really kind
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  Speaker 5: of hurt me in the end, because that is so
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  Speaker 5: important in a relationship. So the first thing on the
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  Speaker 5: beach I wanted to do is make sure that I
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  Speaker 5: could see a life partnership in a friendship as well.
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  Speaker 5: So that's definitely something I did different, I think this
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  Speaker 5: time than the last couple of times.
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  Speaker 3: People are always curious about the living conditions in Bachelor
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  Speaker 3: in Paradise because it's kind of like camping in the tropics.
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  Speaker 3: How did you deal with that and like what was
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  Speaker 3: what was your tricks to survival?
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  Speaker 5: So I, of course have had all my friends go down,
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  Speaker 5: tell me it's going to be raining and there's me
• 13:44
  Speaker 5: crabs in my bed and it's going to be like insane.
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  Speaker 5: And we actually got a pretty mild summer. We were
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  Speaker 5: very lucky. It didn't rain much, actually didn't rain at
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  Speaker 5: all while I was there, and I mean it wasn't
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  Speaker 5: too hot. But I did bring like one of those
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  Speaker 5: portable fans and it died within the first.
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  Speaker 4: Couple of days. I don't know how, but I.
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  Speaker 5: Just, you know, tried my best to embreak elements and
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  Speaker 5: just make the most of it, like you're just gonna
• 14:12
  Speaker 5: look sweaty and the slickbag. Butns were definitely in the
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  Speaker 5: summer for sure, so thank god they're like trendy now.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, all right, So you you rap Paradise a
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  Speaker 3: couple months ago. We hope that you're with a guy
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  Speaker 3: or you know, you you have some good friendships from it,
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  Speaker 3: but like, where are you with piloting right now?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: So for me, I went back to teach in between
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: The Bachelor and the Bachelorette, and it was really difficult,
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  Speaker 5: I think, especially being in a really male dominated industry,
• 14:51
  Speaker 5: getting everyone to take me seriously in general's already one
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: thing being on TV while I was doing it was
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  Speaker 5: really really hard. The guys would like watch the show
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: and people would talk about it. And so after Rechelorette,
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  Speaker 5: it was like, I'm gonna give myself some time off,
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  Speaker 5: and when Paradise came up, I'm like, oh no, I'm
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: gonna have to take more time off. But I think
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  Speaker 5: I've just gotten to the point where I'm just gonna
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  Speaker 5: accept it for what it is. I really want to
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  Speaker 5: get back to flying. So the boys are just gonna
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: have to deal with it while it happens. But yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it's just it's something that's hard to navigate. But I
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  Speaker 5: think it's really something that I've missed for a really
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  Speaker 5: long time. So I'm excited to get back into teaching.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Okay, that's so exciting. I was worried
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: that you were going to lead that conversation into like
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  Speaker 3: so we're just gonna take like a semi permanent pause.
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  Speaker 3: But you're actually getting back into it. So when are
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  Speaker 3: you officially starting?
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  Speaker 5: So I have a really good friend that lives down
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  Speaker 5: here I went to college with, and so he and
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  Speaker 5: I are going to go back up and do reviewing
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  Speaker 5: because I've been out of practice for almost a year,
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  Speaker 5: which is the longest I've ever gone without flying.
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  Speaker 4: So he's gonna take me back up very.
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  Speaker 5: Soon, within the next week or so, and get back
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  Speaker 5: in to hang at things, get back into like the
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  Speaker 5: teaching brain because I've been like just all over the
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  Speaker 5: place for the past two years. But I'm really excited
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  Speaker 5: to get back in the air. And everyone's always like
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: all over my Instagram, like you gave up flying, and
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, I promise I didn't. I just like needed
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  Speaker 5: a second, so excited for everyone to like come along
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  Speaker 5: in that journey as well.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so we know that Pilot peat was not in Paradise,
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  Speaker 3: although we've all said on multiple podcasts we think that
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  Speaker 3: he'd be a great Paradise cast member. He's like made
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  Speaker 3: for reality TV, but we've only seen him in the
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  Speaker 3: Bachelor role, you know, So wouldn't it been a cool thing?
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know why I'm just hypothetically just coming
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  Speaker 3: up with dates with you right now, But like if
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: you and Pilot Pete both led a date on Bachelor
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  Speaker 3: in Paradise where it was like girls team boys, team whatever,
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  Speaker 3: and you're both flying separately in different.
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  Speaker 4: Planes you're facing there, actually is a pilot Peat in
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  Speaker 4: your nice Oh the.
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  Speaker 3: Other pilot Pete two point oh, two point oh.
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  Speaker 2: I heard this guy's a great dude too.
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  Speaker 3: Do we like this new pilot Pete romantically?
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  Speaker 1: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: Who knows? I mean, who knows?
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  Speaker 7: I think I do after all the good things I've
• 17:19
  Speaker 7: heard about him. He sounds like a cat.
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  Speaker 4: He's a great guy. He's a really great guy, and
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: he's funny.
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  Speaker 3: I make you guys have a lot in common.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, and sometimes I feel like that could be a
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: good thing more a bad thing. So we'll have to
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: wait and see.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Rachel's good to see you. It's good to be here.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: He's Ben.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: Who would have thought after our car ride, me and
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: Ashley were just talking like you guys were the first
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: people who found out I was going to Paradise.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Well, no, that's not true. That's not true at all.
• 17:48
  Speaker 7: In fact, you were still questioning in our car ride
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: if you're going to Paradise, And I think I was
• 17:52
  Speaker 7: in the camp of you should go.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: I think you had already made your decision.
• 17:56
  Speaker 7: You just didn't want to like tell us, yes, you're convinced,
• 18:00
  Speaker 7: you're a little freaked out about the idea, But we
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: were both in the camp of you should make this work.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: Yes, I was so on the fence.
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: I really wanted to go, but I kept thinking like,
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: is this the right thing to do?
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: Is it gonna work?
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: Is it gonna be just like embarrassing that I like
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: go again and if something didn't work out, But I'm
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: so happy I did it, like one of the best
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: decisions I ever made.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Okay, Rzel, this is such a hilarious vanity question. But
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: I know that the internet is taken quite the opinions
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: on your eyebrows being bleached, and you always have comebacks
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: for them. What's your ultimate comeback?
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Here?
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: The ultimate comeback? Well, someone said I looked like Boltimore
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: the other day, and I was like, well, is it
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: at least like in a hot way? But they're not
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: bleached in paradise. So it's just like a new It's
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: like a phase I'm going through.
• 19:08
  Speaker 7: Wait time, understand this is this is where I have
• 19:11
  Speaker 7: the most fun on this podcast. I have no idea
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: why or what is happening, Like, why would you your
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: eyebrows bleached?
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: I just bleach them.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: OK's just that it's just the thing.
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: I mean, That's what I'm saying, is I have I
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: don't keep up on these trends, and I don't understand
• 19:25
  Speaker 7: what's happening in the world. So like, it's just a
• 19:27
  Speaker 7: thing that you want to do. It's like cutting your
• 19:29
  Speaker 7: hair short or letting it grow out.
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so I just bleach them to match the blonde.
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: But normally when people have blonde hair, they bleach their
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: eyebrows to look darker. So everyone's really upset about the brows.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: But I think, do you, girl, I just keep doing
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: it now.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Do you kind of love just snapping back at people.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: I just think it's funny. I'm like, why not, Like,
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: why not bleach them?
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Rachel.
• 20:00
  Speaker 7: I've known you since your time on the show, and
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: I would say this, I don't want to speak for you.
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: I've thoroughly enjoyed our times together, and I feel like
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: we've had moments where we've gotten to really have life
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: conversations and life moments where I've gotten to know you
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: better and appreciate you a ton. I think very highly
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: of you. So that's where I'm coming from in this statement. Okay,
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: when I first met you, I felt like you wouldn't
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: have handled the criticisms as well as you're handling them now. Like,
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: I think it would have really bothered you. I think
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: it probably would have kept you up at night. I
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: think it would have been one of those conversations we
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: would have had where You're like, I don't get it,
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: and I think I remember something similar when we talked
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: a couple of years ago, where I was like, it
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: happens to everybody, like You're never gonna do this thing right,
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: and you're just you got to build some Cali skin.
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: So can you talk to me a little bit about
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: how you've gotten to the point where you can do
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: this for yourself because you just want to also have
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: criticisms and clap back at them with like confidence and hilarity.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean it's been crazy.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: I think I've went through like every phase you can
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: in the bachelor world. I think people, you know, they're
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: really excited for me, and then they really disliked me.
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: And I think just I can see where people are
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: coming from in each stage, and I think there were
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: times where I made mistakes and I can honestly understand
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: where the criticism's coming from. I think at this point,
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: I've done so much work on myself that this is
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: I think the first time I'm on the show where
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: I really feel like I'm bringing my true self completely forward,
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: and if people have like things to say about that,
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: like that's fine, because I really am so proud of
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: like how far I've come and who I am now.
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean, it's always going to be difficult,
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: and I think it's easier said right now than when
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: it starts airing. But I am really confident with whom
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: I brought to the beach, and I think it's like
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: my truest self.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: So I'm so happy about that, and I vibe that
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: very much. I concur with what Ben said for sure,
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: to change topics on something very scandalous, Are you willing
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: to talk scandal for a second?
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: I am all right, I don't know. I don't think.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: I don't think. I'm so excited.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: Okay, it doesn't know.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: No, Ben probably hasn't been scrolling on Instagram over the
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: past twelve hours.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: We saw you with Clayton get pretty chummy at our
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: event in February, and it looked like you guys like
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: almost could have rekindled something. Right then you were having
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: like deep conversations. You shake your head, but like you know,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: you got friendly in the in like a true friend way.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: You know, it's like the first time you guys got
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: together since the dumping, and this past day or so,
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: there has been something that's come out about him. He's
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: been served with paternity papers of a paternity lawsuit from
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: an alleged pregnant X And it's not just that she's pregnant.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: She's pregnant with twins.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: You you're kidding. Wait, I'm I really, I'm just.
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: What allegedly Well, when I heard about it, I just
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: think that's probably one of the craziest things I've ever heard. Again,
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: I guess we don't know completely what had happened, but
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: I just hope everyone you know, and figure it out
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: and so definitely insane.
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: So we won't make Rachel get completely put on the spots.
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: I don't think she knows anything more than we do, right,
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: But I do have questions for the two of you.
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: So can I cause I don't know about this, Can
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: I play or just try to understand?
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: Of course, Rachel. This is what I do with Ashley
• 23:55
  Speaker 7: in most situations when it comes to pop culture or
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: just anything happening in the world.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: World. Okay, what is a paternity lawsuit?
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, so without reading it, what I'm assuming it is
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: is that, like she's pregnant with twins, and she's allegedly
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: claiming that she's slept with Clayton in May, and he
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: is denying that they had any sexual encounter.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: So he has came out publicly and commented on this
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: and said he's not that he's denying, and.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Maybe not publicly, but like within the two of them,
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: and like so like in the paperwork, it's saying that
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: he's denying it.
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: Okay, So he's so in the paperwork, she's claiming that
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: it's his kids and that he said I'm that I
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: wasn't a part of this, and now she's saying, well,
• 24:45
  Speaker 7: you're going to have to be a part of this.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Is that how this plays out? Okay?
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Yes, So apparently on August first, she filed the lawsuit,
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: So it's been a while alleging that she's pregnant with
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: twins after engaging in sexual activity with Clayton on May twentieth.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: The the kids are due in February twenty twenty four,
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: and she's saying that she hasn't been with anyone besides
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: him since March of twenty twenty two.
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: Okay, So I'm trying to okay, and then the sources
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: of this are who this isn't like I don't know
• 25:15
  Speaker 7: the ones that we find at like grocery stores. These
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: are legitimate sources or this. We do know for certain
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: that this lawsuit has been filed.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: It's via page six, and page six usually has you know,
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: it's usually pretty reliable. I'll continue with the with the
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: quotes here, it gets quite scandalous. So this is PG
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: almost r this is kind of our He's saying that
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: they only had oral sex that night.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: Oh I didn't hear that.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: That's not how you make kids. I will say that
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: just for an it doesn't know.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: The court filing includes screenshots of alleged tax from the
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: reality star, including the messages that include quote, I don't
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: believe you for a second. I legitimately hate you right now.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: You have lost your mind. And I hope you think
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: about how terrible this is that you would subject me
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: to this. My personal hell would be having to be
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: part of your life.
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: Okay, so this just came out. What I'm understanding is
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: the story is breaking. Rachel knowing Clayton having some sort
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: of relationship with Clayton.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: How do you feel about this.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: I mean, I guess my first thought is, this is
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: obviously something that's very public. I've seen a lot of commentary,
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: a lot of people, you know, taking sides. I know
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: Clayton does struggle with his mental health, so obviously that's
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: something like I thought about first, like hopefully doing okay.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: No matter what the situation is, obviously we're all going
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: to kind of be seeing the development on it. I
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: just hope everyone is okay, because this is definitely like
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: a very crazy, crazy situation that I said, you can't
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: even make up.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: So we'll see where it goes.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just to add into the story, basically, what we're
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: waiting on is him to take a paternity test, which
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: the lawsuit has said that she's offered more than fifty
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: times in runing to pay for one for him, but
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: he is unwilling to participate.
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: Oh my, I you know, I don't know if this
• 27:23
  Speaker 7: is gonna come off crazy, I feel, I mean, I
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: I don't know enough about this situation to really have
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: any opinion whatsoever. But you know, what initially reminds me
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: of is like the moriy Show when they'd be like
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: you are the father or you're not the father, and
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: everybody celebrates or like that. That's kind of what I
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: feel like in my mind, that's what's coming to me.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Well, of course it is. Oh is that fair? Is
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: that fair?
• 27:46
  Speaker 7: Because that's the only that's the only like tangible example
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: that I have of this happening.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Is that crazy? Am I speaking like wild here?
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: No?
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: And I feel like you're not the first one to
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: have made that reference.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I like, yeah, The Bachelor girl chat has
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: been blowing up. My seasons group chat has re emerged today.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of gifts. This is crazy.
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: The what I just really hope everyone's okay, because this
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: is just yeah, very very you.
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: Know, you know, Rachel in uh, however long we've been
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: doing this podcast, the Bachelor world has never ceased to
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: give us stories, good, bad, and different. They've never no, never,
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: And so with that being said, it always gives us stories.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Rachel. We hope that you give us a story.
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: Of love and peace and joy and happiness on the
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: beach in Mexico and onto the future. We hope you
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: are following Sue with the trends of the past. We're
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: leads fine love on the beach in Paradise.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: Amen. Hopefully we'll see goodness Grace. Yeah, well, we'll have
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: you on soon.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: But until then, I've been Ashley.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: I've been Ben, and I'm Rachel.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah there you go, all right, bye, see you guys.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: See Rachel Bye.
• 29:22
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