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This Geologist Believes The Earth Is Warming, But There's No Need For Alarm · Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott

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  Here we go. It's the third hour of the Morning Show with Preston Scott.
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  I'm Preston. That's Grant Allen running the show, and it's program number
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  fifty seventy seven. That's right, five thy seventy seven, Thursday, January
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  eighteenth. They'll chili out there, so be mindful of the temperatures because a
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  lot of you aren't used to it being this chili here. Appropriate weather related
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  things taking center stage on the program this week, and we are joined by
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  a familiar voice, a good friend of the program, Greg Wrdstone. He's
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  a geologist by trade now author as well. He was the author of the
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  best selling book Inconvenient Facts. Now it's a very convenient warming the new book.
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  Greg, how long after writing the first book did you come to the
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  conclusion you needed to write the second? Well, yeah, you know,
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  it as a gradual evolution. When we've talked over we've talked quite regularly over
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  gee, what's it been five six years? Yeah, And you know when
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  we talk I always go back to there is no climate crisis. But really,
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  this has been an evolution for me and the CO two coalition is not
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  only is there not a climate crisis, but boy, by every metric you
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  look at, Earth's ecosystems and humanity are benefiting from modest warming and more.
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  Co Two, it's this huge I call it the greatest untold story of the
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  twenty first century. It's the story of a thriving Earth. It's completely an
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  opposition to what we're being told. We're being told regularly in new uncertain terms,
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  that we're going into a climate crisis, a climate disaster, that rising
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  seas will swallow islands and heat waves will increase and people will die. And
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  boy, just as you look into it in each one of these allegations,
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  if you actually look at it, just the opposite's happening. It's you know,
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  I've got the book in three sections. In the last section is life
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  is good in getting better, And I start with my quote from Frank Sinatra,
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  the best is yet to come. And that's what we see. It's
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  it's hard, it's hard to argue about this against this because the facts are
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  stark and uplifting actually, but yet we find ourselves needing a book like this.
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  Now, you know, Greg, I'm I'm a little bit different from
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  you in that I'm still not convinced we're warming all that much. Because the
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  temperatures, you know, they give us faulty numbers based on where they place
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  the temperature reading devices. I mean, I don't feel like we ever get
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  really clean data. But if I, if I accept that we're warming,
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  I know, and you know, this is a natural process that Earth has
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  done for well since God made it. Yeah, well, you're right that
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  it's over as. The warming is overstated, But there's absolutely and there's no
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  doubt that were warmer today than we were three hundred years ago, Absolutely no
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  doubt. For example, just we can do. I can go eighteen miles
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  south of where I am in Arlington, Virginia and get down to George Washington's
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  home, and they have an ice house there that he built for Martha.
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  Martha loved ice in her summertime drinks. And every winter he'd have his enslaved
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  workers and some of the adventured service. They could down to the Potomac with
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  big saus and they cut big slabs of ice out of the Potomac okay.
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  And that was in the late seventeen hundreds, And the last time the Potomac
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  froze like that was some twenty five years ago. It occurred every single year
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  at that time because it was a lot colder. And so we can look
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  at historical data like that to say, yeah, maybe they've got the degrees
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  off by five tenths of a degree or something. Maybe we don't have it
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  exact, but there's no doubt in my mind that we are warmer today.
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  And even just taking the data that they're using, we've warmed all about a
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  degree since eighteen fifty one degree centigrade. And that's not too alarming to me.
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  And again, I look back at another section of the book, I
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  look at human history, equate human history to temperature history, and find that
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  the warmer periods were warmer than today, and all of them were hugely beneficial.
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  And that's what we're seeing. For example, you're questioning, I'm not
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  beating you up here, but you're questioning about are we really warming? I've
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  got in the book I capture the growing seasons. The length of growing seasons
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  lower forty eight United States have increased more than two weeks since nineteen hundred,
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  two decades of doing morning drive radio differently doing it his way like old Blue
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  Eyes, except he has a little more hair. The Morning Show with Preston
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  Scott, it's a brand new book. You need to get it. It's
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  the companion to Inconvenient Facts. It's a very convenient warming. How modest warming
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  and more CO two are benefiting humanity? Greg I think if the algores of
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  this world, which clearly they want to make money, they also want to
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  use all of this to control our lives. If they had come out with
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  the idea, hey, you know what, looking three hundred years, over
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  a span of three centuries, we're seeing a modest warming in the climate,
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  and here's what we can do to take advantage of it, we'd beat a
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  whole different discussion different places in the world, wouldn't we Oh, we would.
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  And you know, Michael Mann was one of the climate I'm going to
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  put in air quotes scientists that came out with It was his hockey stick that
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  he created out it's in air. And you know, he was asked,
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  what's the what's the ideal temperature for the planet. He said, well,
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  that's easy, it's what the temperatures were before we started adding CO two to
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  the atmosphere. Well, that would put us squarely in the middle of the
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  temperatures of what was called the Little ice age. That was horrific. It
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  was half the population of Iceland Parish. A third of the population of the
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  world died during that time because mainly of cooler temperatures. Because they had each
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  of these cool periods like that we're associated with crop failure, famine, pestilence,
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  and nasty population and these were horrific. No, no, no history.
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  He would call me, and he does call me a science denier.
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  I would call him the history desire because he's denying what history actually tells us
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  about warming and cooling, and that is that we should welcome the warmth and
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  fear the cold. Again, it's just opposite of what we're being cold.
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  Well, but that's why I wrote this book. But Greg, that's factually
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  borne out every single year in the news cycle when cold snaps kill people and
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  when there's a heat you know, imagine it gets warmer in the summer.
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  Go figure, it's a crazy phenomenon. But the fact of the matter is
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  more people dying cold than they do in heat or warmth. Yeah. The
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  largest study of its kind is done by doctor Antonio Gasprini. He looked at
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  seventy four million temperature related deaths. In that study, he concluded in his
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  team with twenty some scientists are actually doctors around the world. That's twenty times
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  as many people die cold related deaths as heat related deaths. Twenty times.
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  There was another large study that concluded was fifteen times as many people die due
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  to cold as to heat. Well, what does that tell me? That
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  tells me that global warming saves lives? And you know when you say that
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  people's heads exploded, you can't say that, Well, yes I can.
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  And the facts, the facts corroborate that that global warming, another degree or
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  so of warming, it may save millions of lives from premature deaths related to
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  cold. And again, these are things, these are things, you know,
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  say it once more. We should welcome the warmth and fear the cold.
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  And that's what that's what history tells us, that's what the science,
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  effects and the data tell us. It's it's completely I don't know why these
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  people are doing this. Basically, your your listeners are being lied to on
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  a daily basis about a climate change and the dangers of a moderately warmed climate.
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  They're telling us, aren't they. Well, we can't get a degree.
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  You probably heard a degree and a half warmer than it was the beginning
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  of the Industrial Revolution. Well, we've already warmed up one point two degrees.
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  What they're warning us about is three tenths of a degree centegraded warming.
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  That equates to half a degree fahrenheit. If your studio went up or down
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  half a degree while we're talking, you never notice it, it wouldn't trigger
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  the thermostats. And if you're that worried about half a degree fahrenheit of warming,
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  it just moved nineteen miles further north and your average temperature will fall by
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  half a degree fahrenheit. It's just when you look at it and things like
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  this, they're saying, we go, you know, the world's going to
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  come to an end because half of Agrea warming. It's ludicrous, isn't it
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  when you look to put it in that in that context? Absolutely, And
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  that's why we have you on the program, Greg to help us kind of
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  put some context on all this. The book is a very Convenient Warming.
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  Greg Wrightstone is the author. We got more to come with Greg next on
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  The Morning Show with pres In Scott. Final Minutes with Greg Wrightstone. Convenient
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  Warming dot Com. If you want the book before it gets to Amazon,
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  that's where you go. It's not to the Amazon distributors yet so Convenientwarming dot
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  com. The book of Very Convenient Warming. Greg I mentioned to you in
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  the break I have had great fodder out of a story that involves the major
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  resort builders around the world, all of them dropping significant cash investing in new
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  resorts in the Maldives. What's the significance of that. Yeah, well,
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  let's go back to the beginning right now, the un list. If you
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  there's a site where they list the most at risk island nations in the world,
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  and the Maldives in the Indian Ocean head that list is the most at
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  risk island nation. These are series of dozens of ireland and so right now
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  they're talking. You'll see all these prime ministers and presidents of each of these
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  island nations. They're standing with a handout wanting climate reparations because they say their
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  nations will be underwater in a few years. Well, let's take a look
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  at that sea level is rising at a rate of seven inches per year,
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  okay, which is not too alarming. And if we go back the Maldives,
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  the highest point in the island, or of the islands, are fourteen
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  feet above sea level, and so it's not too much to think, well,
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  it will be on the water soon. But let's look back fifteen thousand
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  years ago, the Maldaves were also just above sea level. In that fifteen
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  thousand years, sea level has risen four hundred feet. Well, why aren't
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  those islands under four hundred feet of water. That's because of a geologic process
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  known as a creation the viands. As sea level rises, so do the
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  islands. It's called accretion. It's during storm events that the near shore gravels
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  and sands get swept up onto the island. It's a slow process of accretion.
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  The geology is a slow process, and these islands grow along the sea
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  level. And so what they're telling you is now bear in mind, by
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  twenty fifty at the current level of sea level rise, sea level will have
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  risen two inches, barely to your ankles. And what they're telling you is
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  the last four hundred feet of sea level rise didn't put them under. That
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  next two inches look out, that's going to put them on the water,
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  right, That's what they're telling you. And the other thing is, as
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  we mentioned in the break, if you google Forbes and Maldives, there's a
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  story there about dozens of resort complexes being built. There are three air law
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  airports either under construction or just complete in the nowadays, these are many millions
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  of dollars that are being invested by equity companies and importantly they're being ensured by
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  multinational insurance companies. These insurance companies avoid risk like that plague. If they
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  thought there was any chance that the Maldives and their resorts that they're funding and
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  insuring we're going to be underwater, they'd be running away, not flocking to
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  them. But no, they don't believe it. They're putting their money where
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  their risk is and they know there's no risk of this being underwater. Why
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  isn't this story more broadly told. Well, it's the same for the same
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  reason that the other things we talk about are not broadly. They can't let
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  this information app They have to stifle any science that goes contrary to this mantra
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  of catastrophic CO two driven warming. They need to silence people like me and
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  the other brave scientists of the CO two coalition, as well as those that
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  were on the other side. Greg. I'm sorry to rup, but there
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  are many on the other side of this that have now said yeah, we
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  were wrong. Yeah, well, and there's there resist an article in Politico
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  two days ago that came out about the new science deniers and now they're saying,
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  and it's us that they're talking about, being my new book, and
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  the scientists and the CO two coalition and the new science deniers are saying,
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  well, climate change is actually happening, but it's really beneficial, and that's
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  right, that's what we're saying, and that we can back it up by
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  science, facts and data. And that's the new science denialism that they're talking
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  about, is the fact that it's beneficial. And it is, but it's
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  not the drastic change that Al Gore promised, predicted, told his stories about,
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  lied about. It's the incremental function of the Earth being the Earth,
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  isn't it? It is? And you know we talked about the Earth warm.
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  We're in a warming trend that started more than three hundred years ago,
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  and I'm okay with that again, growing seasons of length and more than two
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  weeks in the continental United States at least to more food production agriculture were agricultural
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  increases are outpacing population growth on this two to one. And it's because of
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  warming more CO two driving plant growth and fossil fuel derived nitrogen fertilizer. Those
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  three things our driving crop production to record breaking levels year after year after year.
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  I captured that in the book. I look at the top eight crops
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  of the world in terms of tonnage produce, and all eight of these you
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  need to see the charts. They're just year after year after year, increasing
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  and breaking new records. And we should celebrate that we're feeding a growing population
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  because of warming. We're co two. Greg, thanks as always for the
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  time. I appreciate it. Thank you, Greg rivestone with us this morning.
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  A very convenient Warming is the name of the book. Convenientwarming dot Com
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  is the website.