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Toxic masculinity? Liberal woman explains what she REALLY wants from men | HBR Talk 274 · Honey Badger Radio

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Hello, and welcome to HBr Talk two seventy four. Toxic Masculinity. Liberal
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woman explains what she really wants from men. I'm your host Hannah Wallen here
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with nonsense annihilator Lauren Brooks and the personification of perceptivity Mike Stevenson, and tonight
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we're delving into dating secrets of the liberal feminist woman, you know those women
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So here we go. I'm going to read them now and and then we'll
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show during this show. So last week we got Meredith g gave us five
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I hope you are feeling better, Hannah, and nice to see primback.
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Thanks for the great conversation. Richard Beer gave us five dollars and said prim
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Lauren, Hannah and Mike gave us five parasocial dollars. He says he's five
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then V four Vernon sorry gave us I'm still strep throat really kicks my ass,
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Sorry, guys. V four Vernon Vernon gave us five dollars and said
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similviis maybe pioneered a system of cleanliness for practicing doctors that save many women's lives,
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but he wasn't nurturing enough. And uh and that is all of our
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super chows from last week. So sorry about that. Like I said,
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cold medicine fucks me up, and so does like it's it's I have the
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weirdest immune system, guys. It's like that that angry looking rottweiler that totally
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and completely is is just a big baby, and we'll roll over on its
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back when a burglar comes into your house, right, But then as soon
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as the kid's next door are in the backyard or the mailman puts the mail
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through the mail slot, it goes ballistic and like that's that's my so I
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get I get something like pollen and I can't breathe, but strep throat it's
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like, you know, invites it in, makes a special seat at the
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table. Here, you go have some have some throat space, and let's
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make some extra snot for whole freaking months even after it's done, so you
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guys could hear me clear my thread alot tonight. Sorry, Yeah, that's
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that's the flegm that always seems to linger the longest. Yeah. Usually my
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ancestry is mostly Irish and Scottish, but tonight I'm totally Flemish. But it's
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appropriate because this one snoughty woman that we're gonna bear reading about tonight, Like,
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holy shit, I saw this article and I like, I had been
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looking at some other things that thinking maybe you know, I'll read this,
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I'll look at this on the show, and you know this, this is
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definitely something we'll have to talk about at some point, and blah blah blah,
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And then I see this one and I'm like, oh, you gotta
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be kidding me. I can't just ignore this. A liberal woman goes on
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goes viral on TikTok for saying it's hard to find a masculine man who's not
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conservative. So we're going to decode that because when you hear conservatives and liberals
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talk about each other, what they're really talking about is the difference between and
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in terms of women, they're talking about the difference between like the Marxist feminist
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women and non feminist gynocentric women. Right, there's there's mostly in those two
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groups. That's what you find women who won't call themselves feminists but they're still
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gynocentric, or women who overtly admit they are feminists, and of course they're
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even more gynocentric. So you have the trad cons who expect men to fill
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all traditional roles and it has to be all men, and there's something wrong
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with you if you don't. And then you have the liberal role feminist woman
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who expects expects that all men will abandon traditional male roles and there's something wrong
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with you if you don't. But you know, you still should pay all
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of her bills, of course, because she's a strong she's a strong,
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independent woman, and you've got to pay her bills. And this is this
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is not a new article. This is from like June, so it's not
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something that I'm going over because it's recent news. This is something I'm going
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over because this is something we gotta talk about like this, this is there's
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the article, right, But it's not just that one woman, right,
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It's not just she's not alone in this. When you talk to like if
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I talk to to feminist woman on Twitter and I start talking about out what
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men's issues exist, and what we talk about on the show, and what
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lobbying has been done on behalf of men's rights activists or men's men's rights really
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buy men's rights activists and so on. They get mad specifically about child support
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issues, right, alimony, the idea that men and women, you know,
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should work the same if they're going to get paid the same, right,
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not not equal pay for equal work. They always talk about equal pay
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for equal work, but they never want to talk about equal work for equal
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pay. So here we have this, uh, here we have this situation.
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This woman is mad because you can't find a provider with her values.
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She's telling men not to fill these roles as a liberal woman, as a
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feminist woman. What's she saying don't I mean traditional roles except for this one?
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Right? I mean? Is that really the gist of her position.
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She she just wants a provider and that's what she's deeming masculine. Yeah,
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here we go, and here is the quote from it. And most of
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the men I've dated who do not or who do have that more natural provider
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masculinity about them, are normally conservative. The user lamented. Might that be
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because they are trying to conserve that particular kind of role. It's it seems
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like you can predict everything that's going to be said just by that title.
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Yeah, like, so what does conservative mean? What might be the opposite
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of conservative? That would be progressive? And what's progressive? Feminism and the
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absolute destruction of masculine identity. So if there's someone out there who's who's like
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even a little bit, I don't know. I think maybe masculinity is all
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right, Maybe it doesn't need to be reformed, let alone dissolves out of
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us over entire civilization. You could call that person conservative, and yes they
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are, because they're trying to conserve masculinity. And I think that's that's the
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problem in the mind of I believe what we're calling a liberal woman, which
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might otherwise be called a progressive woman, but it's really a feminist woman,
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miss andrick oikophobic woman, and they don't understand why what the connection is between
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conservativism and masculinity, even despite her own quite pervasive insist since that masculinity be
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destroyed and not concerned. You get what I'm saying. Yes, yeah,
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it seems it seems like the title itself nutshells the problem and you can get
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a solution just from that nutshell. Progress does not mean destroying masculinity. Yep,
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that's that's a really internet shell the point. Yeah, yeah, and
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uh, I will I will also point out we did just get a super
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chow for Meredith g on the on the same thing. She gave us five
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dollars and said, HBr talk to seventy four. The problem for quote liberal,
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which is code for feminist women, is the very that the very things
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they are attracted to in masculinity, it's not conservative but simply a reject of
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the box that feminists want to put men in. H and I love the
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way that that's described because feminists always talk about freeing men from the man box,
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but they're not doing that. They're transferring men from the traditional conservative man
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box to the non traditional feminist man box. The anti male, anti masculinity,
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controlling and subjugating, really man box and instead of men having responsibilities that
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they are in control of fulfilling, they now have responsibilities that women are in
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control of their fulfillment of. And that totally destroys men. And they don't
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get to control their own actions, but they get criticized for everything they do.
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Their agency is taken away, and then they still get the blame,
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right And you know, that's that's because women unmasked have been lied to about
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the very nature of men and masculinity. You know, they've been told that
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it's it's this frightening thing that they should be afraid of. It's it's it's
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you know, it's harmful. It's it's you know, oppressive, it's keeping
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you down, it's not letting you progress because simply because you're a woman.
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You know, it's it's all of these negative stereotypes that women walk around with
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when they think about the average man. Yet they can't fight that instinctive,
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atavistic nature that most women, most people subscribe to, you know, where
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they actually do want a family, they do want to have children, they
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want a man in their lives. They just don't understand they've spent so much
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of their time believing the lies that men are just this harmful entity, this
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this harmful being, this oppressive nature on their lives that you know, they
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can't they just can't square that circle, you know, they can't make it
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fit. They know that they want the man to be a provider, but
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oh my god, being aggressive is toxic masculinity. Well, how the hell
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do you ever expect to find someone, you know, someone to actually mate
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with and have a family with and you know, have all of these wonderful
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things that you think that you want if you spend your whole lifetime. And
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this is what they do, because it's it's God, females such a hive
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mind. Because it's not that they they've done the research. No, it's
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just my friend told me and I heard from this person, and I you
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know, this one says that men are just you know, oh my god,
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they're horrible. They're reprehensible, and I got happen right, And they
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just believe it whole cloth. They don't do any kind of introspection, no
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kind of research, nothing. They just believe it because it makes them feel
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better about being women. I guess I don't know, but it's just so
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it's so counterintuitive to a person's natural biological nature, but they just don't understand
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that. And so this is where this person is finding herself. You know,
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this is where the rubber meets the road, and you know you are
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looking at men, you're finding these qualities. Well, he's not masculine.
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Well, what is masculine. Masculine to you is what your girlfriends tell you.
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It's it. And this is the other thing. It's not even about
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what is masculinity, it's about what's wrong. You have to find on demand
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that doesn't have these toxic trees, right, like you gotta find the needle
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in the haystack by selecting out for all the negative qualities that you don't want,
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instead of looking at what it is you're really looking for and just being
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honest about the whole thing. I don't know how to explain it or how
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to I'm getting caught in my brain. But well, the tough the tough
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part of expecting honesty from these women is they lie to themselves first. Right,
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So they lie about human agency first. Right, Men have agency,
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women don't. Well, that's bullshit. We all are capable of making decisions,
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we all have choices and we all have the power to control our choices
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within the matrix of our surroundings. Of you know, this is this is
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our situation, This is how much money we have, this is how much
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authority we have in our lives and whatever. Women don't have less authority over
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themselves than men. We're not even under coverture where women have less responsibility for
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themselves than men, although our laws do preserve some aspects of male responsibility for
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women's choices. That's why we still have a child support system. That's why
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we still have alimony. Right, That's why there's a gender disparity in criminal
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court where if a man and a woman commit the same crime together under the
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same circumstances for the same reasons they the man goes to jail for years longer
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than the woman does because she can throw him under the bus. Right,
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But in terms of women making, nobody's stopping women from making their own choices.
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Nobody's coming along and say, well, the law says you can't have
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a bank account. Nobody's coming along and said saying, well, the law
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says you can't choose to have sex. You have to have a shop chaperone
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when you go out with a man. You can't leave the house in that
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outfit. You can't have this job because you're a woman, you can't go
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to school because you're None of that is happening today, right, none,
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And it's questionable how much of it happened in the past. There's quite a
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bit of information that has come out over the years to debunk most of what
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feminists have complained about in terms of coverture. And obviously there's the stipulation that
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covidure applied if you got married, you could be responsible for you yourself and
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single, or you could have a man be responsible for you and then you
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had some limitations so that he could meet those expectations. Right, That's that's
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the difference. Today's feminists literally have nothing to complain about, and they still
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do and this is how it pans out. So I'm gonna get a little
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bit into the article, even though like it's this article is, like I
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said, it's not new, it's a few months old, so it's it's
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partly just a stepping stepping off point and partly I want to respond to some
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of the things that are in it. Even though it's an article about a
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TikTok user. I don't normally use TikTok. I don't have it on any
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the app on any of my devices where you have to use an app to
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view TikTok. So I don't know if the video will play well on this
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computer, but so I may not play the video unless we get to a
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point where it looks like we need to in order to respond to it.
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But but we'll read about it. So the article says a self proclaimed liberal
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woman, which I like the way they put that, because really, again,
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it's code for feminist went on a viral TikTok in recent days back in
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June for posting a video complaining about not being able to find a masculine man
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who is not conservative. TikTok user at ms Petch posted the video last week,
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which has since received hundreds of thousands of views. And by the way,
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the blank spots are blocked ads or something I'm not loading, or auto
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plays or something I'm not loading. I have a bunch of stuff blocked on
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his computer to keep like pop up ads and annoying things from playing while I'm
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reading the articles. In a clip, she shared her dating struggles with followers,
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namely though hard time she's had finding a masculine man who matches her progressive
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views. And then it shows the TikTok's video that's I don't know if that's
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a link or just their icon, their logo or whatever. Yeah. She
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opened up the video talking about quote one of the saddest realizations she has ever
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had, which she claimed was as a liberal woman, it's really hard to
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find a man who is willing to play the more traditional masculine role in the
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relationship in today's day and age who is not a conservative. Hey, guess
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what. Masculine men don't want your liberal ass out on the fucking street,
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in the fucking bars and the goddamn strip clugs. They don't want you hanging
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out with your girlfriends, going down to Jamaica having your fucking girls trip.
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Masculine men don't want that misliberal woman. You want to live your life the
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way you fucking want to do it, and you can't call me nothing.
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You can't tell me. I'm gonna tell you. It's get the fuck out
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of here. How where the fuck do you get off thinking that you you
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can prescribe your wants and needs and desires on men, but you're just there's
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none, there's not supposed to be any kind of restrictions or expectations. I
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won't say restrictions, no kind of expectations on you. What world do you
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live in? That doesn't happen anywhere ever. Yeah, that's see, that's
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a that's a big thing for me right there, Like here she is,
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she's making a big deal about this, as if, as if the left
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hasn't been the one to tell men not to fill those roles. M don't
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be like this whole set of characteristics. Don't do these things. But I
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want to marry a guy that does these things, right, I want to
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date a guy that does these Well, you can't have it both ways.
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Have have have a standard and live that standard. Right. It's it's as
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a liberal woman, you're telling men that they shouldn't have to be uniquely under
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the pressure to provide. It shouldn't be all their pressure, but they have
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to deal with right, So share the goddamn pressure. But what's she what
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does she go on with now? As as she spoke, text appeared on
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top of the video revealing some of her scathing critiques of the men she's been
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running into. She wrote, all these men out here wanting to split the
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bill on the first date. What are you kidding? Are you kidding me?
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What? You told all of the conservative men to fuck off? You
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told all of the non feminist men to fuck off. You told all of
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the traditional men that they're bad. You told them their masculinity was toxic.
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You told them wanting to pay on the first date was MISTI genistic and know
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you're mad because they listen to you. But there's a hashtag for that hashtag
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listen to women. Now you're mad because they listen to you, right,
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I was I was hoping. I was hoping to get some differentiation in meanings
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between traditional and conservatives, because in a lot of ways they're synonyms. But
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I guess she's kind of explained to it. What she means about traditionalism is
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paying for dinner on the on the first day, basically, And she hasn't
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explained what she means by conservative, and then that's not a conservative thing,
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apparently not. I think what she means by traditional is all the ways that
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men sacrifice for women, and by conservative she means all the ways in which
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they don't. Yeah, all the ways that men expect women to exercise their
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agency would be would be conservative, right, Conservative men do expect a woman
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to have a little self control in regard to her sexual habits. Right that
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that's like sacrilege. These days, you can't say that. You know you
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you want sexual autonomy, you want bodily autonomy. But autonomy necessarily isn't just
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It isn't just your rights. It isn't just about what you can do and
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what you're allowed to do, and not being interfered with. Autonomy necessarily involves
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responsibility. You are responsible for your body. You are responsible for everything you
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use it to make happen. Even if you use it to gamble on whether
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or not you might get pregnant or whether or not you might get an STI
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and you lose that gamble, you are still responsible. If you roll the
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dice and you want to want it to come up, you know, with
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a with a seven, and you get one, and you know you you
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lost. You just lost. That's it, right. If you want you
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roll the dice, you wanted to come up with a twenty, you want
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you want the perfect score, right, and you get a one. You
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fumbled, that's you. You didn't get knocked up, you didn't get infected.
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You fumbled. You let semen in, you let microbes in You allowed
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conception to occur and it did. You allowed infection to occur, and it
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did. It's your fault, and that's something that women can't handle, right.
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And if you tell people I don't want this from you and then they
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don't give it to you, it's your fault. You said no, and
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you said no means no, and you said listen to women, so you
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don't get to say fuck you for listening. And that's just this. That's
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why this article pissed me off so much. This is probably the most profound
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display of lack of agency that I have seen in a discussion that was not
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about abortion. How dare these men? How dare they listen to women just
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because we said listen to women? And how dare they step out of the
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man box just because we told them to step out of their man boxing into
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ours? And yeah about it. It is like they're allergic to accountability.
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Consequences will never be the same. You've done, goofed. As the video
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continued at ms petch, I want to say, miss petch that's probably Miss
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Petchuh stressed that as a liberal woman, she definitely wants her independence to be
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acknowledged. Oh god, so she wants you to pay the bill, but
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she wants her independence to be acknowledged in dependence from what exactly? How are
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you independent if you need somebody to pay your fucking bills? Your dumb twice
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this this is just what I said before. Like she she thought she wants
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to be able. Just listen, just be honest. You want to sponsor.
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You don't want to partner. You want someone to come in and subsidize
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your lifestyle. You want to be able and free to go and fuck whoever
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you want, do whatever you want to go, wherever you want. You
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want to live. Gog guy wanted to live. I'm hack whoa girls?
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Sum you want to go do all that? Go do all of that.
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But what you want, which really wants whot What she wants What she's describing
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is that she wants someone to be her beneficiary or to she wants to be
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someone's beneficiary, right. She she wants someone to come in and just pay
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lace her with cash and let her do whatever she wants to do. You
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think that she's going to be in any way, shape or form, uh
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committed to that man? Absolutely not? So why would any man sign up
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for that? He and oh girl so stupid that she goes on with this
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too, So acknowledge my independence, pay for pay for me, but acknowledge
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my independence, right. And then she says she wants to not be confined
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or conform to the traditional female homemaker childbearing role. Mr. She wants to
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confine him to the traditional provider role, but she does not want to be
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confined to the traditional homemaker child bearing role. And again, you know,
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like he's got to be a natural provider but not conservative. Now, how
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do you have the right to demand that he fill his traditional role if you
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refuse to fill your traditional role? And exactly what do you expect from your
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independence? If if you're expecting a provider? Like, what do you what
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are you independent from? What are you are you doing? What do you
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You're gonna have a job, You're gonna earn some money, and you're gonna
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do what with it? See, what's what's really happening is that these women
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are coming face to face with the reality of our current situation, which is
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that it's really difficult to make it out here and be unquote independent unless you
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can earn your way into that independence. And a lot of these women can't
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do it. They can't. They are struggling. They are struggling. They
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are more. The rates of black women who are getting evicted out of their
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homes is going through the fucking literally going through the room. You know,
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I'm sorry, I don't mean to laugh. It's not a laughing situation if
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you're in it. I am not, but you know, it's a it's
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a reality that these women have to But they're they're never gonna do it.
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They're never gonna do it. They're never gonna be that self aware, you
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know, They're always just gonna Oh, I could do it. I'm strong
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and independent. I could do it by myself. No you can't, No,
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you can't. You can't for a little while. But let me tell
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you, those years between sixty five and the rest of your life, those
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are long years where you can't work. So there's gonna be a lot of
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h I do. I've worked. I've worked with a lot of women that
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didn't get married and and uh didn't didn't save up for their own retirement,
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And just like personally, I'm I'm kind of I got married, but we're
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not saving up for me to retire because there's not a point to that.
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I don't in my family. I've watched what happens when people in my family
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retire and stop like not just earning, but stop having earning as part of
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their purpose, stop having doing a job or a service to their community as
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part of their purpose, Like they die within a few years, Like it
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just that's our life. That's who we are and what we do. So
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I intend to continue working until I physically can't anymore, because that's I think
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that's probably what makes us happiest in my family is to do that. And
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I watched with my parents. It was really really stark with both of them.
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My mom in particular, became a very different person when she she didn't
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like do the signing for retirement and all that. She just hit a point
32:37
where she was like, all right, I'm not running for city council anymore.
32:40
I'm not going to continue renewing my teaching certificate. Done with this,
32:45
And it really the only thing that she continued with was the photography business,
32:51
and then when she sort of retired out of that, it really did.
32:53
It made her a completely different person in a lot of ways. And and
33:00
I like, I'm not gonna let that happen to me. I like to
33:04
be active and involved in doing things that I can see the result. I
33:09
can see other people benefiting from the result of what I'm doing, and I
33:15
think it would kill me to stop doing that. So one way or another,
33:20
that's that's me. But I think a lot of women expect to have
33:25
some sort of safety net when they get older, whether they do anything to
33:30
build it or not, and it comes as a shock, I think to
33:34
a lot of women when they hit you know, the the late fifties or
33:37
early sixties, they don't have a nest egg. They don't have a partner
33:40
who helped them build a nest egg. And they're looking at the social Security
33:45
system in the United States or or the public retirement systems and some of the
33:50
other countries that listen to our show and going this isn't gonna support me,
33:55
this isn't gonna allow me to retire. I'm still gonna have to work and
34:00
end up in retail. And it's kind of a rough situation for them because
34:04
in retail, because minimum wage goes up and up and up over the years,
34:09
retail employers have started adding more and more and more tasks to what you
34:15
are expected to do if you do that job. So even if you are,
34:21
like, they have the disability job of being a greeter at some stores
34:24
where you stand at the doorway people come in and out of and if the
34:31
machine goes off to say that the magnetic shoplifting detector on various items has not
34:38
been undone, you have to check their receipt and make sure they paid for
34:43
their items and stuff. Well, those people now are doing They have to
34:46
go out and gather carts. They have to do this. They have to
34:49
do that. And people with legitimate physical disabilities that prevent them from performing a
34:54
lot of manual labors suddenly can't get those jobs anymore because they're they're they're now
35:00
requiring multiple tasks that used to be left up to Oh, some jobs that
35:06
have been eliminated. They used to We used to go to the grocery store
35:09
and there would be a cashier, you would see the manager walking around the
35:14
store most of the time. You know, there would be the person who
35:19
works in the deli, the person who works in the bakery, the person
35:21
who works in the meat department, the butcher and everything, and then there
35:24
would be another job that was strictly its own job that was a bagger.
35:30
The bagger put your groceries in grocery bags, very often grocery bags made out
35:37
of paper, very large paper grocery bags, put them in the cart,
35:44
carefully walked the cart out to your car, and then helped you put the
35:50
groceries in the car. And that was his job. And it was almost
35:52
always boys, teenage boys that did that job. That job's gone, the
35:59
cashier jobs are mostly gone, right yea. So now these little ladies are
36:04
stuck doing jobs that they never would have imagined having to do in their old
36:09
age that they have difficulty doing because they don't have the physical capacity that they
36:15
used to have. They don't they don't necessarily understand the younger consumers anymore.
36:22
And it really is, uh, it really is a shame for them that
36:27
it puts them in a situation where they really are at a disadvantage and they're
36:32
still trying to earn some sort of supplemental income to their Social Security checks that
36:37
they're getting because they didn't save up for retirement. Yeah but but yeah,
36:45
they and they they they thought, oh I can I can uh not be
36:49
my own provider, but I can live without a provider. And and that
36:54
is that is the thing that's going on with women now, right, they
36:59
want to claim to be independent, but are they or are they just substituting
37:07
Daddy government for Hubby m Absolutely And you know, as an aside, one
37:16
thing that I found really interesting because again I watched a lot of the court
37:22
dockets and things like that, and I've heard more than one judge in certain
37:29
cases, when speaking about Medicaid say well, and this is recent. I'm
37:35
talking about maybe maybe one or two year and a half, two years old
37:42
at the most. Right, they're saying, well, I don't know what's
37:45
gonna happen with the medicaid system. I don't know what's gonna happen with the
37:50
medicaid system. You better figure out how to get your child some insurance.
37:53
And it really seems like there's gonna be a downfall of a lot of the
38:00
social programs that they have. I mean, time will tell, time will
38:06
tell. You know, We're we're coming into an election year and everything just
38:10
seems to be topsy turvy. Now. I almost wish we had a sponsor,
38:15
because it'd be a great time to place an end by by gold put
38:21
you put your put your invest your IRA in gold. But but no,
38:25
seriously, the people who are dependent on government programs to subsidize their lives.
38:32
They I think it's it's coming to an end, and probably sooner than they
38:39
think. And not everything, not every program obviously, but you can just
38:45
start seeing someone seeing some of these things get rolled back or or you know,
38:51
combined in certain ways, and it's it's just a scary time to be
38:58
dependent on a government that clearly doesn't give a crap about its people. Yeah.
39:04
Well, and that's every government. They never get it, give a
39:07
crap about their people. You think about this, all right, all those
39:10
social programs, all that all that does. What is what is the end
39:16
result of a gazillion programs to pay money out to citizens that was confiscated from
39:24
other citizens? And I posted this a while back, Consider this, all
39:30
right. Authoritarian politicians gave women voting rights early in the twentieth century, you
39:37
know, like the the uh, the the the twentieth Amendment actually in in
39:45
in our sorry, the nineteenth Amendment in nineteen twenty and uh in the UK
39:52
you had just about the same time period, you had the suffragettes there that
39:58
claimed to have bombed and w find their way into voting rights that actually were
40:01
earned for them by men who died in World War One, and the Canadian
40:07
suffragettes that made the same claims that again, you know, this really was
40:13
earned for them by men. So authoritarian politicians gave women voting rights. Women
40:21
didn't earn those, they gave them to them, And almost immediately afterward,
40:28
women began voting to expand national governments and use government violence by proxy as tax
40:35
collectors, right as a means of transferring wealth from male commoners, not wealthy
40:40
men necessarily, but male commoners, because wealthy men were already paying shetloads of
40:45
taxes. Now the middle class is also doing it, the men in the
40:49
middle class, the men even in the lower classes if they are single.
40:52
So male commoners via taxation and social programming, and that's what we have.
40:59
Now. This gave those politicians a rather large power boost, both in the
41:05
form of that expanded government and in a voting block of government services. Addicts
41:12
without the foresight to understand that they were destroying the nation's economy for their children
41:15
and their grandchildren and their great grandchildren. Perhaps just spitballing here. The suffragettes
41:22
were just window dressing. Perhaps there were people in government that went, we
41:28
want more power, how do we get more power. Well, give women
41:30
the vote. We can convince them that they need us to take money for
41:36
men to give to them. We can convince them that we are their saviors,
41:39
and they'll give us more power. And they did. They gave them
41:45
a shitload of power. And they are now ripping off men in all countries
41:52
under English common law. Australia included, right, India included for Bibbs,
42:00
they're ripping off the common man, not necessarily Bill Gates. Right, there's
42:07
like build the plumber down the street, right, they're ripping that guy off
42:14
to pay for some other guy's children to have medical care. They're ripping that
42:20
guy off to pay her rent. They're they're they're ripping that guy off to
42:25
pay to repair her car, to get her a free refrigerator, to pay
42:29
her utility bills, to pay her college, to pay her children's college,
42:35
and he gets jack and shit out of it. Like her kids are going
42:38
to flunk out of college. They were raised without their father at home.
42:43
They're having difficulty in school. Their school system that build the Plumber down the
42:49
street is paying for does not teach them math, does not teach them how
42:52
to read, does not teach them how to write, does not teach them
42:55
the scientific method, does not teach them the act actual history of their nation
43:00
nation, but teaches them that there are seventy two genders and they have to
43:05
pick one in kindergarten. How are they gonna do a job when they grow
43:10
up? Right, that is what women have created. Yeah, with their
43:16
liberal values. That is what liberal women have done. That is what feminist
43:21
women have done. And conservative women don't think you'll have to hook you didn't
43:25
stop them, well exactly, and this is something that holds have Jesus says,
43:30
And it didn't really click in my head until he said it. Conservatism
43:37
conservatives don't really have like an ideology. What it really is is a reaction
43:45
to liberalism. Right. The liberals go out and they want to have drag
43:50
Queen Story Hour for the kids, and the conservatives go and they say,
43:54
oh, we don't like that. You know, they don't really have I
44:00
believe I don't really think they have like a firm. This is what we
44:04
believe in. It's it's more of this is what we don't like and you
44:10
know, take you for what it is. But oh, I guess I'll
44:19
just leave that there. Yeah, we don't like men to be responsible for
44:22
us, But we're gonna make them legally responsible for us, but we're not
44:27
gonna admit it. We're gonna take their tax dollars instead. So, so
44:32
this woman's going through this, this rant about conservative men and her, She's
44:39
got these thought texts popping up. Am I asking too much here? To
44:44
be somewhat equal? Yet have a man provide and take care of me to
44:49
some extent, which what she means is one hundred percent. I really don't
44:53
know what to do because I don't want to compromise my morals and values just
44:59
to find me. But I am asking? Am I asking to have my
45:02
cake and eat it too? Yes? Yes, yes, bitch. I
45:10
could have stopped her at the first fucking question. Am I asking too much?
45:14
No, you're not asking too much. You're asking the wrong question,
45:17
and you're asking it to the wrong fucking people. You know, you need
45:22
to go into that room that I'm pretty sure everybody has in their house is
45:27
called the bathroom and has like a toilet and in a shower and a sink,
45:30
and oh, a mirror. You need to go and look in the
45:35
fucking mirror and ask yourself what am I asking here? What am I looking,
45:40
what am I really looking for? But no, they don't because women
45:45
do not have introspection. What they have is their their little uh you know,
45:53
their tribe of people. Like in the church right there in the they
45:58
have the congregation. You know, they get out here and they say something
46:02
at all and all the congregation congregation jumps up and says, all yes,
46:07
queen, all yeah, praise feminist Jesus. Yep, yass queen. Is
46:13
the amen as a feminist congregation? Yes it is. Can I get a
46:17
yass queen? Well? People call her? No? Right? Can I
46:23
get a witness? No? No, you cannot. You're a dip shit.
46:30
Multiple users left her frank responses in the comment. One observed all of
46:36
the benefits, none of the responsibilities. Another monter logic, saying why can't
46:40
I find a man with conservative values who's not a conservative? Like what?
46:47
Another made the point a same point, saying I want a traditional man without
46:52
being a traditional woman, right right, right, And and of course she
46:58
fought with these people. Oh so. Subsequent videos she posted to her account,
47:07
Miss Petch addressed her critics, and one she insisted that she just wants
47:14
a man who has some traditional values while also being very progressive in social issues.
47:21
So she wants. She wants a financial conservative, an economic conservative,
47:28
a family values conservative that will let her, you know, be basically what
47:37
a person with those values would refer to as a lazy slut, exactly referring
47:45
to her that way. And I mean again, I just it's all it's
47:52
all about. And I God, I was hoping that maybe one of these
47:55
people would actually make her stop and Paul laws and think, oh yeah,
48:01
but no, that didn't happen. No, she just doubles down. And
48:07
of course it's never about does a traditional man want a woman like me?
48:15
Yeah, that's it's just I this is what I want. I want it,
48:21
I want it all, and I want it now. Yep, I
48:27
want it all and I want it now. And I don't care about him.
48:30
Yep, all right, it doesn't. It doesn't occur to her how
48:36
much pressure is put on a person who has other people that depend on them
48:43
to pay the bills, to haul their ass out of bed every morning and
48:46
go to work, no matter how they feel, no matter how difficult it
48:52
may be on a given day, whether they're sick or tired, or injured
48:54
or just depressed. All right, they that they have to earn that paycheck
49:01
every week or every two weeks or however often you get paid right every month
49:06
if you're an educator, and and that they have to be consistent and have
49:14
to be reliable, that they have to be these things because it's not just
49:19
them. It's not just their assets out on the street. If they don't
49:22
pay their rent, it's not just their ass out on the street. If
49:23
they get evicted, it's not just their ass that's without internet or without heat
49:30
or cooling depending on the temperatures, if the utilities get shut off. It's
49:36
their family, it's their children, it's it's that woman who keeps saying I
49:42
want to be a liberal, but I want you to be a traditionalist who
49:46
accepts my liberalism. Like, it's that person. It's that adult child that
49:52
relies on you to do everything for her. Yeah, right, that person
50:00
is helpless. And when you have people who are helpless that rely on you,
50:06
whether it's a baby or a bimbo, you're under a lot of pressure
50:12
and it is hard and it is scary. What if what if I fail?
50:15
What if my employer fails? What am I gonna do? What's my
50:21
backup game plan? What's the backup to the backup, and those things happen.
50:28
Right, you have ship goes down and your employer's closed for a month,
50:31
what do you do? Do you get unemployment? Maybe? Are you
50:36
eligible? Maybe? Does it pay the bills? Nor? It pays half.
50:44
So the pressures that she's putting on this guy, she doesn't give a
50:49
rat's ass about that. She doesn't give a rat's ass about what she is
50:52
demanding that he take on. She doesn't give a rat's ass about how it
50:57
feels to be under that demand. She doesn't give a rat asked about how
51:00
it wears on you when you wake up at night and you think, did
51:06
I put in enough to pay the electric bill? Did I work enough hours
51:12
this week or this month to pay all my bills? Right? Am I
51:15
doing everything I should be doing for my family? She's not having those thoughts,
51:22
So she doesn't know what he's going through, and she doesn't care.
51:25
She hasn't considered it. Why would anyone want to take her as a partner
51:31
if they are a responsible adult. Why would you want to be with somebody
51:38
that doesn't give a rat's ass about you like that? Why would you want
51:42
to be with somebody who is going to put you in a position where if
51:45
you make a wrong move, she and your children are going to get hurt
51:52
and then turn around and tell you. But you're not allowed to watch out
51:55
to make sure you don't make those wrong moves. You have to be consistent,
52:00
you have to be that provider, You have to fall under that pressure.
52:05
You have to fulfill this role. But you're not allowed to have the
52:08
mentality it takes. You're not allowed to have the discipline it takes. You're
52:13
not allowed to expect me to have the discipline it takes to support you in
52:16
that role. She's setting her future partner up to fail, and when she
52:23
is my age, when she's fifty, she's going to be a divorcee,
52:30
still collecting child support on children who are adults from a man that she's set
52:36
up to fail, demanded too much from, didn't support, and then treated
52:42
like it was all his fault when she wasn't satisfied. Oh and she'll probably
52:50
have an STD too. Oh God, I laugh, But it's not funny
52:59
because it's true. Like it's just sad. This is what this is what
53:05
girls are learning to be now when they grow grow up to the age that
53:12
to the maturity level that well, I don't know if I can't even say
53:15
they hit fourteen now, they don't. Women don't grow up, they just
53:20
get older. It's it's it's heartbreaking. You know, in a lot of
53:25
ways, what what are men going to have for partners in the next generation?
53:30
If this is what they're like, I know and I are, what
53:35
you're going to do? If this is all the maturity they have, like,
53:40
there's there's benefits to taking on all that pressure. The benefit is you
53:45
have the ability to recognize your control over the situation. It's all right,
53:52
I'm worried about what if my employer fails. So my response is I will
53:57
have a backup plan. Here's what I'm going to do, and if that
54:00
fails, I might have a backup to the backup. Here's what I'm gonna
54:04
do. Right. You can do that if you take responsibility for your life,
54:12
and that frees you. If you are, you know, the partner
54:19
to a person that lives the values that you really want from them, and
54:25
you are you have the agency to support that partnership and those values and take
54:32
some of the pressure off by being the partner that he needs. That gives
54:38
you the control to say, all right, I'm not going to set him
54:43
up to fail. And if something happens, what if he gets injured,
54:46
what if his employer suddenly shuts down in the middle of COVID. Right,
54:52
we didn't go become homeless when my husband's employer stopped being a company. Right
55:00
that that that job vanished, it's gone forever, it's not coming back.
55:05
Right, we didn't. We didn't become homeless because I was working full time
55:08
and overtime, and I'm used to working full time and overtime. I'm a
55:14
supportive partner. I don't put all the pressure on him. I do live
55:19
my values, and I recognize that if I'm going to have those values for
55:23
him, I'm going to have those values for me too. Right, So
55:29
I didn't have anything to panic over. He didn't have anything to panic over.
55:32
He didn't have to feel bad. I didn't have to feel bad.
55:36
We could look at each other and say, all right, we're going to
55:38
get through this. Here's the plan. And we followed the plan and we're
55:46
both working again, and it all worked out just fine. I didn't even
55:51
have to do like a lot of people do, where you know you have
55:52
a a I can't think of what it's called a kick kickstar or whatever,
56:00
not kickstarter, but go fund me, pay my bills, go fund me,
56:04
like I see a lot of pay my bills go fund me's for people
56:06
in that situation. We didn't have to do that. We didn't have to
56:09
borrow from people, we didn't have to go to a check cashing place,
56:12
we didn't have to do any of that stuff because it wasn't all on one
56:17
of us. And that's that's good for the family, that's good for the
56:22
two of us. But a woman like this will not be able to weather
56:27
a situation like that with her partner. If that happens in her relationship,
56:31
she will be divorced. Afterwards, she will cheat with another guy. She
56:36
will whine about the situation. If she has to get a job, she'll
56:38
win about that. If she has to pay the bills, she'll whine about
56:42
that right and and if she ends up on welfare, she'll whine about that.
56:52
She will never understand that had she been a supportive partner, an equal
57:00
partner in her marriage, had she been somebody that he could rely on,
57:07
you know, had she been not just a woman going where have all the
57:12
good men gone? Are you willing to be a good woman. Had she
57:15
been a good woman, she wouldn't be in that situation. She wouldn't be
57:19
whinnying about this. She also insisted that she has so much to offer than
57:28
more to offer than being confined to the home. All right, you want
57:31
him to pay your bills, but you don't want to. You don't want
57:37
to be a stay at home mom, so you're obviously gonna work and you
57:40
intend to keep all of your earnings. What do you have to offer?
57:46
Tits? Like every other woman on the planet has those having babies, every
57:53
other woman on the planet can do that. She already says she doesn't want
57:58
to be the you know, the baby maker. She doesn't want any you
58:01
know, she doesn't want to do that. But she's got all of this
58:05
extra to to contribute. She has so much more to offer, and you
58:08
know that it's true because she has to insist upon it. I'm gonna offer
58:15
you my selfishness and you can find that attractive. Yeah, yeah, she's
58:23
love my selfish ass. Damn it? What's wrong with you? This?
58:32
She she she clearly has has an over inflated ego. She thinks that she
58:43
is more fabulous than maybe she really is, because if she I'm guarantee you
58:50
if she had this, if she had this this resume of this long laundry
58:54
list of all of these things that she had to offer, she could start
58:59
listening to them all one by one easily and it'd be like, oh,
59:01
okay, well she she she's graduated magna kumbalad. You know, oh,
59:07
she's head of a class. She's she's like, well she's got you know
59:10
what I mean. And you know, things like that aren't necessarily, you
59:17
know, what men go for. But again, if she has this pedigree
59:23
of all these things that she has to offer, it wouldn't you wouldn't have
59:29
to sell yourself so hard. Yeah, that's and that's the thing. You
59:35
wouldn't be you wouldn't be single, That's the thing. Like if she had
59:42
yea, she had something to offer, she wouldn't be on her aunt like
59:45
this. She would be in a relationship. Exactly. It's not that hard
59:52
to find a man to have a relationship with. Most women don't have to
59:59
do anything, even in today's environment, even with a growing trend of men
1:00:07
going their own way, who are are going their own way because of women
1:00:14
like this, like because of women who can't grow up and don't understand honor
1:00:21
and respect and agency, and don't understand men, you know, don't understand
1:00:30
that men are human, like, why would they dedicate themselves to a woman?
1:00:35
Right? But it's still easy to find. There are still simps out
1:00:39
there that would date a woman like this. There are still men who are
1:00:45
are looking for anything, and of course she won't date them unless they make
1:00:52
a lot of money. Right. And it's just it's it's pathetic, it's
1:00:58
sad, it's and I think this is we get to the end of the
1:01:04
article, I'm gonna get into the comments because some of this Let's let's see
1:01:09
how some of these guys respond. I like this read. While reading this
1:01:13
as a conservative man, I find so much to laugh about in all the
1:01:17
responses. I can't help wonder how this is not a common thought among a
1:01:22
significant person of the population. So, as the son of a conservative father,
1:01:28
I mean, open this up so you can see the whole comment.
1:01:32
Thirty years in the Marine Corps and Air Force, who treated his wife and
1:01:37
my mom as a queen, who served ten years in the US Air Force,
1:01:40
and treat my incredible wife who has a master's degree from Stanford and is
1:01:46
the brains of our operation and the father of four incredible children, also by
1:01:52
their own choice, who also by their own choice or conservative. I'm concerned
1:01:55
what is going to become of the greatest country in the world. Like he's
1:02:00
looking at this as you know, this is there's this is the population of
1:02:06
women, the next generation of women. And what we're looking at as the
1:02:13
partners for the next generation of men, right the mothers of the next generation
1:02:16
of children. The teachers, because most teachers now are female. They don't
1:02:22
don't let men even get involved much in public education without falsely accusing them or
1:02:30
making them uncomfortable with it. So this is the teachers of the next generation
1:02:36
that act like this. And I'm sure he's looking at it, going,
1:02:39
boy, I better ready be ready to be off the grid in my old
1:02:42
age. Like what is he going to do as an old man if if
1:02:46
he gets to be an old man, what is he going to do when
1:02:50
all of the women working at the nursing homes that he might live in,
1:02:54
if if he doesn't stay with family or working as nurses at the hospital he
1:02:59
might go to if he's old and sick, you know, are like this,
1:03:06
what's he gonna do when the government is all run by women like this.
1:03:08
What's he gonna do when the whole next generation, what the elderly kind
1:03:15
of depend on to keep society going, is a wreck because of women like
1:03:20
this. I would be scared too. I'm surprised there's not more men who
1:03:27
are scared. Maybe there are, but they're just not vocalizing it. But
1:03:34
yeah, I I can definitely envision a lot of guys. I mean,
1:03:39
this is this. I hear it, you hear the sentiments. But yeah,
1:03:47
I think it's just it's it's a huge wake up call, and these
1:03:51
guys have to I think it's important that they do speak out. And you
1:03:57
know, if we let this guy just talk about his experience in his life
1:04:00
and what he thinks in his fears, because I'm sure a lot of people
1:04:06
would gravitate towards it, you know. And if you're if you just stand
1:04:12
silent and you don't say anything, then nothing really ever is going to change.
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Yeah. Yeah, men have to start holding women to standards. Yeah,
1:04:23
that's a that's a tough one too, because like men in a general
1:04:27
population, men in general have been very very kind for centuries. When women
1:04:33
say we want X, and men make X, happen. Right, Women
1:04:39
say we want why, and men men make why happen? And uh,
1:04:43
you know, women want safety nets, men give them safety nets. Then
1:04:45
women want freedom and the illusion of personal agency within the safety nets, and
1:04:51
men give them that. Women want to tear holes in the safety nets but
1:04:55
not face any of the consequences of falling through, so men become their shields,
1:05:00
right to their own detriment. It's men that then fall upon the spikes
1:05:05
below the safety nets. It's men that end up impaled, and it's men
1:05:10
that end up dying because women don't like the confining nature of the safety nets
1:05:15
that they demanded. It's like it's it's really really a horrifying situation when you
1:05:26
think about it, and women will take advantage of that in mass like the
1:05:31
overwhelming majority of women will be simultaneously highly aware enough to exploit that and oblivious
1:05:41
to enough to never admit that they're doing it. Meanwhile, you have women
1:05:46
like this who stereotype the ship out of these men and the next guy.
1:05:51
Jay Hotnogg's sixty seven pointed this out. He said, I and many,
1:05:57
if not most, of my friends and family are conservative with traditional values.
1:06:00
That does not mean I expect or even want my wife to be barefoot and
1:06:05
pregnant. I expect my wife to be independent, smart, bold, freely
1:06:09
speak her mind, et cetera. She needs to spend more time with conservative
1:06:13
men. And see, that's my experience. I grew up in a conservative,
1:06:17
traditional household. I grew up in a conservative, traditional family, extended
1:06:24
family. Most of my neighborhood was fairly conservative, fairly traditional. Like,
1:06:30
we had maybe a little more poverty issues coming out of divorce in my neighborhood
1:06:38
than the more affluent side of town. But for the most part, most
1:06:44
of my friends had two parents at home. Right, most of my friends,
1:06:48
they're both parents, had jobs, but their father earned more. Most
1:06:54
of my friends. That's the way they grew up. Right, Most of
1:06:57
my friends went to a church. There are our nineteen churches and twenty one
1:07:00
bars in the community. I grew up in German and Irish mostly background,
1:07:08
and they take both very seriously and very very conservatively on both as well,
1:07:15
Like you can go to all nineteen bars, which better not be too drunk
1:07:19
to to appraise your actions by the end of the night. So I grew
1:07:26
up in an area where it was expected that the man would be the provider.
1:07:30
The woman would be a supportive partner. The woman would take some of
1:07:34
the pressure off of him. The woman would be the person who ran the
1:07:39
household. And you know, the man was the mentoring father and the woman
1:07:47
was the nurturing mother. And you know, if the kid needed a band
1:07:53
aid and a pep talk, the pep talk might come from dad, and
1:07:57
the band aid might come from mom. And that was that's traditional roles,
1:08:00
right, That's just our history in the United States. And it's not necessarily
1:08:08
all bad. It's not necessarily all good. It's not necessary that everyone do
1:08:12
it that way. But if you're going to demand that he do it that
1:08:16
way, then you ban damn well better be ready to do it that way
1:08:20
too. And it's not the feminist stereotype of the barefoot, pregnant, uneducated,
1:08:27
helpless, un agencied woman who has to ask her husband for every penny
1:08:32
that she wants to spend at the grocery store. Like that stereotype might exist
1:08:40
on television, that stereotype might exist in feminist creepy pasta, but in real
1:08:45
life, conservative women and traditionalist women worked. They were expected to fulfill responsibilities.
1:08:55
They were expected to be honest and honorable, and they were expected to
1:09:00
understand what that meant. And that's disappearing. It's just going away. Even
1:09:04
neo tradcuns aren't doing that now, right. They've got these women that are
1:09:10
showing off on TikTok and YouTube and everything that they can look like the women
1:09:15
in the TV shows from the nineteen fifties, but they can't show off that
1:09:20
they are acting like women were actually expected to act historically. They don't know
1:09:30
how that was. They don't They can't live up to something that they're not
1:09:34
acknowledging. Great, So so yeah, she's she's being criticized for stereotyping.
1:09:46
Then we have engage or egag Rick and prak. So she wants a man
1:09:55
with progressive values and who will, alike is expected among progressive men, seed
1:10:00
any and all privileges to her, empower her, and, as is common
1:10:05
among progressive women, makes no demand on her, no demands on her or
1:10:12
expectations other than those she chooses to offer up. And simultaneously, she wants
1:10:16
a traditional man who will pay for dates, open doors, defer to her
1:10:20
in public, and generally provide all the behaviors that a conservative man would provide.
1:10:27
This The mildest thing I can think of is that she wants to have
1:10:30
her cake and eat it too. But more clearly, she demonstrates that a
1:10:33
particular or demonstrates a particularly disgusting version of hypocrisy, where she wants all the
1:10:41
rights and privileges that a progressive woman expects, and she wants to be treated
1:10:45
as a lady at the same time receiving deference without incurring even a tiny bit
1:10:48
of the costs such deference requires as a quid pro quo within conservative couples,
1:10:57
i e. She wants it all, but will not accept any of the
1:11:00
constant costs or responsibility that getting all will require, absolutely absolutely right, right,
1:11:10
And no one has so many up votes. Yep, that one has
1:11:15
a lot of up votes. That one's not intertwine and and ninety two replies
1:11:17
like quite a conversation under that one. Yeah yeah, And so I'm looking
1:11:24
at this, and the comments are all very similar, like, you know,
1:11:27
she wants wants to have her cake and eat it too is sort of
1:11:30
a theme. The next one gives the same theme, and and then you
1:11:36
know, we have the people laughing at her. This is hilarious, not
1:11:40
surprising, And and mentioning the double standard. So she makes this rant and
1:11:48
I don't know what she expected, but conservative men are not having it right,
1:11:54
They're not They're looking at this going on. I'm not touching that with
1:11:57
a ten foot pole, Like, what did she expect? Did she think
1:12:00
she could lecture conservative men into dating her? Yes, yes, that's what
1:12:08
they think. That dates. That works on feminist men. It works on
1:12:13
some liberal men, yes, conservatives. Well, yes, that's who it
1:12:17
works on. But it doesn't mean that they won't try to use it on
1:12:21
every man in existence. And the fact that it works on a few select
1:12:30
men will only encourage them to try to do it to every other man in
1:12:33
existence, you know what I mean. And that's the problem. Some men
1:12:38
capitulate to these women, and so they think that all men are supposed to
1:12:43
do to say, Oh my god, you're not a good man. You
1:12:45
don't but you don't believe in what I believe, you know, like the
1:12:50
things you don't accept me for a being who I am, so so ridiculous,
1:12:59
you're ago. I wrote an article for a Voice for Men. It
1:13:02
was originally something I posted on my personal blog, which I have been neglecting
1:13:06
for a few years, but it's a blog or blog, so you know
1:13:10
you can get away with that, right. But this this this post was
1:13:15
titled a question of respect, and the gist of the post is that women
1:13:19
do not understand respect. Women will demand respect, right, and they'll go
1:13:27
they'll actually demand it in the most annoying way possible. They'll they'll run into
1:13:32
a situation where a guy isn't paying attention to them at all, where he's
1:13:39
going about his business. She's not involved in his business, not any kind
1:13:45
of relationship, not any kind of any connection at all to him, and
1:13:49
he does something that she disapproves. And her take is it doesn't matter.
1:13:54
Don't you respect women? Look, there's a woman here. You should be
1:13:57
behaving better, right, and better by her standards. You know, Maybe
1:14:01
he just got off of work, any stinks and she doesn't like that.
1:14:03
Maybe he's smoked and she's any stinks and she doesn't like that, right,
1:14:09
and it it was set off. Actually, I was working at a convenience
1:14:13
store and a guy came in and he smelled foul. But he was homeless,
1:14:21
Right, there's that that's going to happen. And he was he was
1:14:26
buying a carton of cigarettes and she was annoyed because of the smell, and
1:14:33
she was just like, what's the matter with that guy? Doesn't he respect
1:14:35
women? Can't he clean up before he comes into And it was just like,
1:14:40
are you kidding me? You? You? You want this homeless guy
1:14:45
whose only pleasure in life is to be able to have a cigarette while he
1:14:49
freezes or roasts in the elements because he's unsheltered to clean up before he comes
1:14:57
into the convenience store because you might be in here. Bullshit, fuck you?
1:15:01
Right? So I wrote this article about how women don't understand respect.
1:15:08
They don't understand that it's earned. They don't understand that it's a trade off
1:15:12
that you. Respect is a combination of trust and expectations for personal standards,
1:15:21
recognition of each other's personal accountability, exercise of your own personal accountability, and
1:15:30
and so on. You have a whole spectrum of things. Respect is recognizing
1:15:40
that the person across from you doesn't have to be altruistic, and if they
1:15:46
are, you should appreciate it and reciprocate. Respect is understanding that the person
1:15:53
across from you as a human being with their own spectrum of experiences, with
1:15:57
their own personal history, with their own thoughts, their own feelings and what
1:16:02
they may be doing in the moment is a reaction to something that has nothing
1:16:05
to do with you and accepting that that's fair. Right, But women expect
1:16:14
veneration. They are to be centered in everything. Right, that guy should
1:16:18
be even though he's homeless and he's under a lot of different stresses. Maybe
1:16:23
he's homeless because he's mentally ill. Maybe he's homeless because he's a veteran and
1:16:28
he's not getting the medical care that he needs to help him maintain the capabilities
1:16:34
that he needs in order to hold a job. Maybe he's homeless because he
1:16:38
doesn't want to do things the normal way. Maybe he's homeless because he's okay
1:16:43
with it. Know, there's a whole spectrum of different reasons why people become
1:16:46
homeless. Maybe he's homeless because every dime he makes that is on the books
1:16:54
is taken by his ex wife for child support. That happens a lot.
1:16:58
Yes, maybe the money that he's buying cigarettes with was handed to him by
1:17:01
somebody out in the parking lot who felt sorry for him because he was sitting
1:17:05
there on the corner looking homeless. But but no, she doesn't think of
1:17:12
any of those things. She thinks of how he's responding to her, or
1:17:16
rather not responding to her, that he's giving her deference just by the possibility
1:17:23
that she might be in there. That's not respect, that's a demand for
1:17:27
veneration. Women don't understand respect. And this is the whole problem with this
1:17:33
woman's outlook. She doesn't understand respect. She's not looking for a partner that
1:17:40
she can respect, and she's not looking to earn the respect of her partner.
1:17:47
She wants veneration. She wants somebody that she can look down on it,
1:17:51
she can use and exploit, that she can control, who will treat
1:18:00
her like a queen and a goddess, even though she doesn't do anything to
1:18:05
earn it. You know nothing right, And Bodha has a good point too.
1:18:14
Maybe he's homeless because she keeps voting for more taxes, Yeah, to
1:18:17
pay for her gibbs, right to pay for her gibs, And so I
1:18:24
like and that this whole article. The reason this struck me is such an
1:18:28
important topic is because this encapulate encapsulates the relationship between modern women and modern men.
1:18:35
I want, I want, I want, I want. Gimme,
1:18:38
gimme, gimme, gimme you know, screw you if you want any consideration.
1:18:43
And by the way, you have to be everything I told you was
1:18:45
bad when I need it, and everything of that has to disappear when I
1:18:53
don't want to look at it. Why would anybody want to be with you?
1:19:01
It's a fucking mystery. I wouldn't date this woman. I wouldn't touch
1:19:08
her with a ten foot poll. Hell no, I wouldn't piss on her
1:19:11
if she was on fire. Would touching with somebody else's ten foot pole?
1:19:16
Maybe? Grow up? And that's that's my advice. I think you know.
1:19:21
We get hate listeners, right, We get people that like a feminist
1:19:26
woman. We have we haven't seen Carly right. But but but my advice
1:19:31
if you're one of those hate listeners is this, grow up, develop a
1:19:39
sense of personal agency. Recognize that when you make a decision, you are
1:19:44
the person who made that decision. Somebody else didn't do that to you.
1:19:47
You did it. If there are consequences, deal with them, take control
1:19:56
and and maybe consider when you're making your decisions, what consequences might happen,
1:20:01
What will happen if I do this, What can happen if I do this?
1:20:06
Right before you do it? If you want something from somebody, consider
1:20:14
that that person might be a human being and you're not just pushing a button
1:20:18
on a computer to get a result that you want. Right. This isn't
1:20:23
the internet. This is your relationship with another living, breathing, thinking,
1:20:29
feeling, sentient being, and treat that person as such instead of thinking only
1:20:39
about what you want, right and think about what what does that person want?
1:20:44
What does he want? What is he experiencing with you? What experience
1:20:49
are you putting on him? When when you make these demands, and when
1:20:54
you will bring what you have to offer to the table, and what is
1:20:58
it that you have to offer? Maybe build that up a little bit,
1:21:00
Maybe build up the person that you are inside a little bit. Maybe think
1:21:04
about how you can contribute to your relationship, how you can contribute to your
1:21:11
home and your family, how you can be somebody worth spending time with and
1:21:16
worth supporting. If you're going to demand that somebody support you, right,
1:21:21
maybe offer some support back. You want him to support you, support him,
1:21:30
be an adult, Learn what that means. Look at how men do
1:21:35
it. They don't complain about wanting a woman that has conflicting values with each
1:21:44
other rights. It's bologny. They recognize that they can't have everything, and
1:21:53
that anything they are going to have they have to work for it, They
1:21:56
have to earn it. Learn to do that. That's my advice. It's
1:22:03
going to be a difficult thing for women to live up to that. Many
1:22:08
women will take offense at this, right though, immediately when I say,
1:22:12
well, you make a decision and there's consequences. Somebody else didn't do that
1:22:15
to you, You did that to yourself, the first thing that they're going
1:22:17
to think of is, but more abortion? Right? Are you slut shaming
1:22:23
me? Maybe? Are you a slut? Do you not care about yourself?
1:22:30
And I'm not saying you know that having more than one partner makes you
1:22:35
that, But if you don't care about yourself, if you're doing it carelessly,
1:22:41
if you're not considering your partner's humanity, if you're not considering your future
1:22:45
partners, if you're not taking measures to prevent pregnancy, if you're not taking
1:22:51
measures to prevent the spread of disease, then yeah, okay, then I
1:22:56
might be slut shaming you and you might deserve it, but but yeah,
1:23:03
yeah, it's it's it's tough advice, but you'll be a lot happier if
1:23:08
you follow it, then you will be if you don't follow it and you
1:23:11
make demands like this, and then you, uh, you end up divorced
1:23:15
and you know, trying to date when you're fifty and dealing with ah,
1:23:23
you know, poverty and and and demanding more child support because you can't afford
1:23:29
the shoes you want. Like, don't put yourself in that situation, and
1:23:34
if you do, don't blame somebody else. Figure your way out of it,
1:23:40
because you can. You're not stupid. But I probably am speaking to
1:23:49
thin air. There's probably not very many women right now that will follow that.
1:23:54
No, no, no, because the ones who the ones who already
1:24:00
have the impetus to do it, are already doing it, you know.
1:24:05
Yeah, and they're gonna getting looked down on by by tweens on social media
1:24:14
who who should be working already and are in their umpteenth year of university because
1:24:20
it's about making a home here, Jesus beats, so have lectured the non
1:24:30
listening teenagers. I think probably it's time to move on to I don't think
1:24:36
we got sorry, I'm just like bashing my microphone here. Sorry about that,
1:24:41
guys. Hopefully it just resulted in silence, and you didn't all just
1:24:45
get blasted. But let's see, yeah, I don't. I don't see
1:24:54
any super chats through the chat history. We do have another super chow l
1:25:00
L gave us five dollars and said, here's five dollars, thanks for the
1:25:04
show. Hope you are feeling better, Hannah. So I probably should point
1:25:10
out, like I am feeling better. I had strep throat for about a
1:25:15
month, so like, that's that's my wimpiness. My personal wimpiness is that
1:25:21
when I get that kind of sick, I get fucking sick, but I'll
1:25:27
still drag my butt out of bed and work. I have to be really
1:25:30
in bat shape before I don't do that. So so there you go,
1:25:35
guys. And I don't think there's a whole lot else. I don't actually
1:25:41
see any live chat at all. On a rumble. I don't know if
1:25:45
it's just not showing. Because the last time I said that, I when
1:25:54
I stopped the show, a whole a whole chat showed up, like dropped
1:25:59
into the ops. I'm like, oh, great, well that that's you
1:26:02
know. Now. I could react to it, but nobody's listening, so
1:26:08
I guess that's it. There isn't anything else for me to read to you
1:26:11
guys, so I'm gonna go ahead and call it. I think we've really
1:26:15
talked about everything I wanted to talk about with regard to this. Guys need
1:26:19
to start holding women to account, and women need to start holding themselves to
1:26:24
account. Grow the fuck up, you know. And with that, thanks
1:26:31
you guys for putting up with this bizarre article with me, and thanks everybody
1:26:39
for listening. This one's a short sausage, but it's quite an interesting sausage.
1:26:45
And actually, before I go, Joel Mitchell made a good point here.
1:26:48
Telling your daughters that they are royalty won't go bad, right, And
1:26:53
that's the first step parents, raise your daughters to be adults instead of princess.
1:27:00
Yeah right, And with that we'll also thank everybody who works in the
1:27:05
background and make HBr talk happen. And good night all