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Ep 3: Joy, Pride, and Safe Spaces · Tony & Sarah Unscripted

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Hi, everyone.
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Welcome to this episode of Tony and Sarah Unscripted.
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We want to talk about last weekend
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or this past week, and I should say.
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I just want to I want you to start talking about
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how you felt when you walked in to the space,
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and then you can, you know, just go ahead, go ahead.
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Because I'm so excited to talk about.
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So, what are we going backwards?
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Let's go backwards a little bit.
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Let's actually, you know,
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we have some new followers, you know, which I'm super excited about.
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They don't know how we met.
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So why don't we start from, like, the beginning?
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Beginning?
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The beginning when your life changed forever.
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Okay. Yes.
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So the beginning.
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In the beginning would be about
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three, four years ago now.
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Probably four.
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Yeah.
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Cameron came out to us as transgender.
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And so I say this before I still don't know how I got your name.
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I still don't remember, really.
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I just can't I don't know that because it was one of those things
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where it was sort of like an underground, right, underground thing, like
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because the groups that you ran were very, well, you very private.
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So somebody gave me your name.
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I reached out to you, and then you reached out back to me, I think the next day.
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Procrastinator.
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And, and we got,
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a zoom call a couple of days later.
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Remember that? Yes. So that's how we met.
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And it was basically a parent not knowing
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what to do or to turn, like all, you know, just
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very, lost.
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I think it's important to mention
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how you introduced yourself to me, because I think that's a really
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that's what shocks me when I think about our first interaction.
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And I said, hey, how you doing?
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And you said, hi.
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And my husband is
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Catholic, Republican, conservative.
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And I almost fell off my chair.
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But that was some
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that was scary for me a little bit.
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I was like, am I going to be able to help this family?
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Because some other parents, like us, other family.
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I've had other. Yes.
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And some have helped their child and some have not.
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So it was like.
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But I remember it.
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I remember that like it was yesterday.
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Yeah. Yeah. My husband and I was.
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It was off the camera wouldn't get on the camera.
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He was kind of behind the scenes, as they say.
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Yeah.
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What you were saying and my friend Lynn, my best friend Lynn, who I swear.
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Okay, Lynn, hold on for a second. Lynn.
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Lynn says I met her.
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Yes. Okay, Lynn.
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My apologies. Okay.
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Are you coming to the. Okay. Forget it.
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I will meet you again. And remember. Yeah.
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Well, she was actually in the room as well when we were talking.
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Oh, I didn't know that.
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Yeah. Yeah. Just finding out about that.
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But anyway,
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so that's kind of how you and I met, and then,
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I came to the groups that you offered, and,
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Cameron got involved in different things
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and sort of the journey of that journey began with you alongside us.
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I remember I was doing this art event in North Haven,
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and this is another moment when I think about I almost start crying.
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So, you know, I might get emotional here.
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And it was over.
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A lot of kids showed up and I walked to leave, and you were sitting in your car
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and I walked over to you and you were like, I said, what's going on?
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Well, he's I hope he makes friends.
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I hope he makes friends because he really didn't have that type
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of friendships after he came out
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and started, his transition and.
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Yeah. And man, did he make friends.
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I mean, yeah, he is very, very close to one of the girls that he met that night.
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They're very, very close. So yeah. So cool.
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And that's all it takes, right?
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I mean, he was he before he came out in terms of friends
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and was popular and all that stuff.
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And then everything changed.
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So he I know he felt very lost and, very lonely.
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And when we went to that night in North Haven, he met quite a few kids and, and,
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and I feel like they, kind of all understand each other.
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And it's almost an easier way to make friends
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because you already have something in common. Yeah, yeah.
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So, so
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keeping that in mind from
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that journey, I remember sitting down with a friend of mine, Bob Hargraves,
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who I said to her, I want to do A girl for pride.
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And we were in the back of a restaurant in the summertime.
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A few years ago, and she said, okay, I'm in, you know, whatever you need.
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And I was like, okay.
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So we just kind of went with that.
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And we started. You were in the first group that we had?
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Yep. We had, got a committee together and,
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we had that first pride.
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It was about over three years ago now because the fourth one is coming up. Wow.
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And it was very successful.
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But in order to have that, you needed to have a nonprofit sponsor, right. So
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I just said, okay,
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well, I said of finding a nonprofit, I'll just create.
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And why not? Why not?
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So I did I started off Alex, acceptance, love, equality in the NHS.
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And I loves
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the NHS because so many people are like, that just doesn't make any sense.
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And I think that your meaning is wrong.
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And I was like, what is this NHS means?
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Eager to learn, eager for change.
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Which made perfect sense.
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Makes perfect sense, right?
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Because I had so much that I needed to learn about this
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new community.
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And X is hard and X is
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not a whole lot.
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So from from that, we kind of, sponsored a career prom.
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And then we got together with North Haven Pride,
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and we sponsored a second career prom with them.
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We sponsored a talk with you for your author talk.
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Yeah, it was great. That was great. Yeah, it was a lot of fun.
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And then we kind of tried to do some sort of educational things
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and noticed that that was a little bit more harder. Right?
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You'd get the same people that would come to these presentations,
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and they were all the people that already supported.
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Yeah.
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And already had no issues with with what we were doing.
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They maybe wanted to learn a little bit more about the, the transgender community.
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So we started just to think about like, what are we going to do?
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And, and I always in the back of my mind,
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I thought it would be great to have a space
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because I go back to that time with Cameron when he was in North Haven.
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Yeah, that thing and with very like minded kids.
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And he instantly, instantly
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made friends and connections and I think about those kids
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and how hard it might be for them to find that connection in their own school.
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Right.
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It's hard when you, when you don't play sports
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because you automatically, you know, in sports it's great.
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It's a team sport.
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You're automatic on a team, right?
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They have things in common.
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Even in theater, it's great. Right?
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Because you're with people that are like minded to you.
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And so, I think that,
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sometimes kids don't have that comfortable
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place.
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They don't quite sure where they fit in.
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And if they're not, academically minded, sports driven or anything like that,
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they just feel like maybe they don't they don't quite fit in, particularly
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where we live, which is in the shoreline, which is a fantastic area to live.
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And I do love it.
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And there is nothing for them on the shoreline,
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closest Pride Center or anything like that.
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A welcoming space is in New Haven.
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New Haven, right? Yeah.
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And how it happened was, one of my neighbors reached out to me
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and said that she would like to put Alex in as a contender to get a $25,000 grant
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from her company. And so if you remember, I.
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Yeah, I was like, this is this is amazing.
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Got her all the information she needed. And
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instantly I thought,
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well, if we did get that, we could open a space.
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And so that was in December.
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Yeah.
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And the space just opened this past week.
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Who does that?
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14th.
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We had our open house.
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It's beautiful space, very small, but just
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and cozy, I should say. So small.
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Cozy, right.
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So, it's just perfect for what we want to do with it right now.
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And the.
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I think the hardest part right now was just getting the information out there
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about it. Yeah, that it's open.
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And what what we're doing there and what we'd like to offer.
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And I've spoken to a bunch of,
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a couple of different therapists who have all sort of said the same thing,
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which is that this is a space that's needed and it's not it's needed community.
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It's also for kids that just don't feel that they belong.
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Yeah.
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And beyond that, I know that I've met a few adults
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in the queer community who have sort of said, listen, we miss getting together
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and having, coffee talks or just moments where we can get together and talk about
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what's going on. Yeah.
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So now we're kind of providing this space for adults.
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We're looking to provide space for we're doing tee times.
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So this would be for either transgender youth 13 to 17,
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or the other side of that will be 18 and up.
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And that's just within the transgender community.
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There is, a whole bunch of struggles that they deal with on their own.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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Are so separate from anything that I would know.
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And beyond the fact that they have to deal with
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the terrible political side of things, as a trans female,
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I think you want to learn things maybe like how to dress.
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If I want to wear makeup, you know, that kind of stuff, which is probably it.
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It's it just may not come naturally or may you may think, oh,
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I'd like to, to sit with somebody who could kind of show me, yeah,
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what might suit me or how or just sit with community,
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just sitting in a space where you don't have to explain who you are.
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You don't have to be afraid of who you are.
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I mean, you know, as a trans person myself, I remember the first time
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I was in a room with other trans people
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and there wasn't that many trans men.
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There was.
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There were really almost I think I was the only trans guy in the space.
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And I remember saying to myself, man, this is great, but,
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you know, same church, different pew type of thing.
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Like, how can I like, I always dress like a dude, so I didn't need to.
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I always wore a tie was, you know, I was so butch when I was
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in the lesbian band that I was in when I identified as a lesbian.
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We were playing at this event, and I remember when we were leaving,
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I heard this woman say, I thought it was a lesbian band.
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Who's the guy?
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And that was prior to transition.
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But just offering this space.
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And when you walk into this space for everybody who's listening,
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there's peace.
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There's just that sense of I'm safe here
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as you get it, as soon as you walk into the space.
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And I'm just super excited.
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But I'm so proud of you because,
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you know, it just happens because it's supposed to happen.
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Like the reason why you said, oh, in December, December, this past December,
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I think we're going to do a space.
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And then February 14th the space opens.
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That's unheard of.
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And the universe or God or whoever anybody believes and knows
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when something is needed, it needs to be there.
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And and I'm so proud of you. Thank you.
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Yeah, I do, I do think everything just sort of aligned at the right.
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Yeah.
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And it was pushed by this neighbor of mine saying, you know.
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Yeah.
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I'd like to add to see if I get this right now,
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we got some of the money, not all the money,
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but it, was just enough for us to say, okay, let's just take this plunge
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and let's do this.
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So it did kind of all fall, just fall together at the right time.
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So this, so, yeah.
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So the space is going to be used for different art groups and support groups.
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We're thinking of opening it as well for local schools.
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If there's kids who just want to come down and hang around and sort of
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sit on a very comfortable beanbag chair.
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Yeah. Read some of the books that we have.
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We've got a lot of different books there.
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If they want to just draw or write or color or take a breather
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or listen to music, you know, whatever they kind of want to do,
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and then for them not to worry about or how do I look?
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What am I wearing? Someone going to make fun of me,
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somebody to call me by the wrong name or pronoun.
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Right? Yeah. So
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and I remember watching Taylor Swift,
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this whole documentary that they did
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about, the, the error tour that she did
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and one of her dancers, did you ever did you watch that?
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I did not watch it.
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I watch it, though, I watch it. You should watch it.
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I will say I'm not a huge Taylor Swift fan.
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I think she's amazing.
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Isn't Joe, though?
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Your husband?
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Yeah, but she.
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But she's fantastic of what she's done.
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What an incredible businesswoman.
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But she had one of her dancers was,
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a male who, you know, you could tell
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he liked to sort of dress more feminine at times.
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And he had longer hair, and I, I, using the pronoun
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he maybe doesn't know it by he.
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I don't quite know because I don't think they really spoke about that.
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But what he did
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talk about was how difficult it was for him
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growing up in the dancing world, because he wanted to do a lot of what
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the females were doing, and it just he it was very hard for him to find a studio
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that would agree to that, or that would allow him
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to just express himself however he wanted to.
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And it was difficult, very difficult for him.
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And I suppose the dancers
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all get excited if they're chosen to do the song.
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I think it's ready for it.
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Yeah, and he was chosen to do it and he was beyond excited,
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and he just spoken in tears
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through tears of of how this much this meant to him,
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that he was going to be allowed to express himself.
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However, he wanted and he wasn't going to be judged,
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and he could truly be who he has always been.
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Yeah, but rarely allowed to show.
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And what an incredible talent to me.
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He's just so talented and just a huge smile on his face.
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And he was so grateful to Taylor Swift.
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And I don't think that I'm sure she knew what she was doing for him.
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But I also, from what I gather from her,
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she was probably like, of course he can do.
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Yeah.
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And if you if you're if you've never felt
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that feeling of not being able to be yourself.
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And I think people need to understand that like being a trans person myself,
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I know what it's like to hide who I really, really at was, you know,
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I mean, I was never able to express fully who I was.
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And if you've never been
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in that situation, man, when you get to do that, your life changes.
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It's lifesaving when you can be in the space.
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And we know this for the youth of our community that
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when they're in a space, even if it's a few hours a week, it saves them.
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It saves them, you know, when they're around people and they can
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every time I'm talking about this and, you know, and when we talk, we write.
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We see a story in our brains, you know, and I, I just picture Cameron
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laughing with all his friends and leaving his 16th with a 16th
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or 18th birthday, his 18th birthday.
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He walked out of that pub with a bunch of friends,
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and I leaned over to you and I said, do you remember when you in the parking lot
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in North Haven, you were worrying about if you should have friends or not?
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But it's life saving.
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So Alex really is providing a space that's really going
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to make a big difference in a lot of people's worlds.
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Because when your kid is sad, you're sad.
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When your kid is struggling, you're struggling, you know?
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So yeah.
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And it's not just about
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opening a space for the queer community, which of course, that's what this is.
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But it's also a space, even if you're not queer.
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Yeah. And you feel
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unwanted
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if you feel like you don't belong, even as adults.
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How many times have we walked into spaces and
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you're like, oh, gosh, I don't really fit in with this group.
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And and you're uncomfortable.
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So we never truly get out of that.
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We just probably learn where to walk into and yeah,
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and where we're going to feel wanted and needed and like, like we belong.
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But, it's something that I think we all, we all deal with.
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And sometimes I remember even a few years ago, I was on a trip
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with a few girls, and I knew most of them, but not very, very well.
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But there were things about them that I just felt like I didn't belong,
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and it was very uncomfortable and I say a few years ago, this is probably
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going back 8 or 10 years ago, but okay, well, that's a few.
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Yeah, yeah, I was in my early 40s and still in my early 40s.
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I felt like not good enough.
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Yeah, I felt like I just didn't belong.
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It was very uncomfortable for me.
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And I thought, why would I put myself in that situation?
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I think people I mean, it's hard, like
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it's hard to make friends when you're an adult to think it's harder
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because, you know, a lot of people just isolate nobody, you know,
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I don't like prior to transitioning, there were bars I used to go to.
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I was a club promoter.
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I was around a lot of people all the time, and not anymore.
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I mean, there's really no place where I feel I feel comfortable going,
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you know, and sometimes you drag me out
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like the other day or like just come down to the space and
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it makes a difference when you're around, just being around other people's energy.
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And I'm glad the space is open, not just for the LGBTQ community.
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That it's a space for everyone is welcome.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So, super excited about it.
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We're going to run into a couple of groups.
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This week, which is the week of February 16th.
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And then really what we're looking to do is,
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what do what does the community need?
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What do these kids need?
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Who are not into sports, who are not into academia,
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who are not even maybe even to theater?
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And they just they just can't find their space.
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Like, what do they need? They'll tell you.
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Yeah, that's what we want to hear back.
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Like, when should we be open? What groups do they want?
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And not as a, as I
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said, not just the youth as well, you know, the young adults.
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Given that Cameron's 18,
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most of his friends now are,
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young adults, right? Yeah.
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And as you know, we had an event at fired up in Brantford.
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Yeah, it was great to go.
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20 adults showed up and it was heartwarming to see.
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And it reminded us of the need of just maybe,
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this kind of fun event where people could go and be together.
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They want to not worry about snickering in the corner or not worried about someone
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getting mad or upset or, as you say, wrong pronouns, wrong names or or anything.
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Yeah, and I would love to have heard the story of every single person
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that was there, because some of them I would look at and I was like,
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You know what?
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I wonder what their story is.
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Or I wonder why they felt this was a there was somebody that showed up
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that I started they started my group when they were 12 or 13
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and they were there
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and they came up to you afterwards and said, thank you for doing this.
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And so many people
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came up to you and Cameron and said, thank you for doing this thinking
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we got to do another one because, it was just super successful.
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Yeah.
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So it just
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it just shows you that again, it's not just the youth, it's the young adults.
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And, and it's also the older adults.
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Right. So we'll try to get
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all ages
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and yeah, you will see it'll organically narrow
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down to what it's supposed to be and what's needed right now.
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But right now we're just thinking, let's see.
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Let's open it to everything and everyone and all ages and see who who we can help.
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Yeah, we can, you know, and and it might just be a few people
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that want to get together and, and knit while they talk.
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Right. Yeah. Yeah.
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Or just have, you know, a coffee and a few snacks
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while they, talk about their fears.
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Right.
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And I think right now, particularly the parents of transgender individuals,
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we also are going to be having a parent or caregiver.
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That's great.
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And as a person who
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when Cameron first came out to me a few years ago and living where we live,
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it was a
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lonely existence for me because I knew what I needed to do.
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And, you were obviously very, very helpful to me,
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but to deal with what I was feeling was hard.
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I didn't quite know if anybody else felt the way I was feeling
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because I almost didn't want to show or tell how I was feeling,
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because I felt like that would show that I was not being supportive.
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And that's not the case.
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I, you know, I could be supportive of Cameron,
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and loving of him,
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but also having my own difficulties with, with what I was dealing with.
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So I think it's important
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to create a space where caregivers and parents and families
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can say, of course, I love my child, and of course I'll do whatever I can.
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However, can we just talk about what this means?
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Yeah, yeah. How difficult this may be.
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Can we talk about how all of my dreams and thoughts and everything that I thought
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was going to
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happen is going to happen in a different way now?
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And how yeah, how you accept that.
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And, and so I wanted to make sure that there was a space
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where these families could come and be like, what the heck?
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Yeah, I'll tell you that.
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It was so important.
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When the group started for me in 2008, the parents were sitting outside
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in their cars while the teens were inside, and one day I was just I went outside.
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I said, listen, I can get you a room in the in the building.
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I think you might have something to talk about for parents started.
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And, you know, I would, you know, after this, I'm saying like, don't
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go by the numbers because a lot of people start support groups
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and then people don't show up, or two people show up and they're like, I don't.
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I didn't care if one time one kid showed up
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and I took them to Starbucks and we had coffee, it didn't matter.
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And then you walk into these rooms and the parent group, at one point
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there was like 40 parents that showed up.
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It was it's so it will it will build on its own.
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It will become what it's supposed to become.
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And I love that.
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I hope in your facilitating the parent group.
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Yeah. Okay.
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Good.
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So, you know, you have your facilitating, you have the space.
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Now everything else will just the does the sense of,
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peace and love and compassion that that space has already.
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And then you going in and you facilitating this.
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People are going to want to be there because people aren't around
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that we're not around that energy of compassion and love a lot, you know.
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Well, particularly now, I think, that as parents,
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all we're seeing and hearing a lot of is the damage
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that we're doing to our children, the irreparable damage.
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Yeah.
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And you're seeing a lot or I'm seeing a lot because I'm on the wrong side
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of something.
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Detransition stories
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or whatever they call them now, and they're pushing those out now a lot.
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But their agenda, right?
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Yeah. Of course.
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And it's.
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I won't say that I won't read through these and think
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this is nothing like Cameron's story.
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And that's the thing is some of these,
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are they teach, you know, just what are they called?
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I always say change in gender journey, but I don't like the word detransition.
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But some some of their stories are most of the stories
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that I read are completely different from Cameron's and
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then you read the
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comments and you read how parents should be, you know,
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sent to jail and the parents are at fault for all this.
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And then it goes to the doctors are at fault. And,
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you know, let's let's just really take a moment here because
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we hear a lot about I'll use the I'll use the term detransition.
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It's less than 1%.
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But we never ask why.
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And I can tell you that in my experience working with this,
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you know, this community that I've had a couple of kids
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who had said, you know what, I can't do this.
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I can't because they weren't getting support.
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They were getting bullied at school.
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So they stopped their transition until they were old enough to do it
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on their own.
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You know, listen, we know,
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we know, especially you and I.
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We sat in the pain. Yeah.
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I remember that call that FaceTime with Cameron
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like it was just again like it was yesterday.
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I remember the only thing I said to him was, what do you need?
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Okay.
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And it changed.
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Like, you know, I mean, it's that simple.
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It was that simple.
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It was that simple that anybody that knew what he was going through.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So, I mean, that's a whole other podcast to talk about, right?
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Yeah.
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But but the whole point is that as parents, we, we
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we struggle a lot. Yes.
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And then we're being questioned by our decisions and then we're told
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we actually can't do what we know is best for our child.
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Yeah.
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This spaces for that.
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Yes, I love it, I love it, I love it.
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What we'll do, is a short link,
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the website link, the email, that you can send an email.
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Yeah.
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And I have, if you have any questions about groups, if you have any ideas
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of what you would like to see us do, please send us an email.
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We're open to to hearing lots of different things right now.
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I'm excited.
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I'm excited to see where this goes.
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I will make a prediction right now on this podcast
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that we will grow out of this space in six months.
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All right, I'm telling you.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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When I say your mouth to God's ears, my mouth to God's ears,
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I guess I don't know my mouth to Buddha's ears.
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And I'm getting I don't know. This is this.
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I'm really proud of you. I'm proud of you.
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And I can't wait to see this grow.
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I mean, again, from December to February.
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Who does that?
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Who does that?
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You know, and then. Oh, wait wait wait wait.
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Pride's coming. Coming.
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May 17th.
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Nope. That's Cameron's birthday. But,
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16, which is a Saturday rain date is May 7th.
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Okay.
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And so out of the three years that we don't say it.
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Okay, the first year it did not.
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I can tell you, right?
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Yes it did.
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We use the rain date to tell you right now the what
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if we have about May 16th as a day of our.
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I can tell you that it will rain on May 6th and 2020.
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And listen, one year it was raining right over the.
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Oh, right over the Guilford Green,
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because when I left a block down it wasn't raining, I swear.
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But here's the deal everybody,
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if you're listening, start praying to the weather angels, okay?
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Make it a beautiful, sunny, breezy, not too breezy
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for the 10th day, but something that not, you know, hot.
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You know, just just nice.
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Just good stuff. That's it.
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All right. Yeah.
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That's it.
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So thank you again for joining us.
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And we'll see you next time.