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Star Wars Visions Presents The Ninth Jedi Ep. 1-4 Review CCXCIX · Star Wars Alliance

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  Speaker 1: The Force will be with you always.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, everyone, Welcome back to through another episode of Star
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  Speaker 2: Wars Lions your home on the GIEK Ultimate Alights Podcast
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  Speaker 2: network for any I don't think Star Wars where I'm
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  Speaker 2: your host as always Katie, and with me as per
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  Speaker 2: always is Clay Claire. How are you doing this evening?
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  Speaker 3: I am doing pretty good.
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  Speaker 4: I am very sweaty, engrossed as Texas is, but I
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  Speaker 4: am getting through it. One thing I forgot to ask
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  Speaker 4: you before we actually went live, because you asked me
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  Speaker 4: if I could hear your background. I have the fan
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  Speaker 4: at full blast this time around. Have you heard an
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  Speaker 4: I don't hear you?
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  Speaker 3: Cool? That's amazing. I love it. But yeah, it's been
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  Speaker 3: a fun week. We I.
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  Speaker 4: As I told you, this morning, I had to drop
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  Speaker 4: off my parents at the airport. They're going on vacation
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  Speaker 4: to Cancun. Their flight was supposed to leave at eleven.
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  Speaker 4: I dropped them off at nine and then they texted
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  Speaker 4: me at like eleven forty five and they said, hey,
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  Speaker 4: our plane doesn't leave until three o'clock. And I was like,
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  Speaker 4: that sucks. I was not about to be like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: do I need to go get you because currently the
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  Speaker 4: car that I drove them in, which was my mom's
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  Speaker 4: car literally is on e Like.
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  Speaker 3: They were like, hey, we're gonna drive the bank.
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  Speaker 4: You have to drive with us, and then when you
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  Speaker 4: drop us off, you have to drive my car back.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like okay.
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  Speaker 4: And then as I was going back home, the light
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  Speaker 4: turned on and I'm like, I make it home.
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  Speaker 3: Geez, Louise. But yeah, it's been a fun week.
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  Speaker 4: I got to, of course watch the four episodes that
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  Speaker 4: we are reviewing.
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  Speaker 3: Today peacefully. Abby and amber Lyn were still asleep when
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  Speaker 3: I got back from the airport.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's nice.
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  Speaker 4: So I was just like, all right, I'm just gonna
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  Speaker 4: sit here. I grabbed tacos on my way home. I'm
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  Speaker 4: just gonna eat these tacos, watch the show, and we're
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  Speaker 4: good to go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is it. I got up at five am
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  Speaker 2: this morning to watch them. We watched the first three
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  Speaker 2: episodes and then I didn't get a chance to put
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  Speaker 2: on the fourth episode until dinner. So mar got her
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  Speaker 2: first glance at Adult Star Wars since Tales of the
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  Speaker 2: Empire when she was in Austin, so she was like,
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  Speaker 2: what happened? What happened?
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  Speaker 4: Amber Lyn did wake up around the time of the
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  Speaker 4: third episode and she's like, Daddy, what are you watching?
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  Speaker 4: I said, this is the new Star Wars show. This
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  Speaker 4: is one of Daddy's shows. She's like, Okay, it's my turn.
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  Speaker 4: And I said, no, no, no, no, you watched TV
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  Speaker 4: all day yesterday. I'm watching my shows today. And she said, okay,
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  Speaker 4: credits roll on episode three. And she looks at me
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  Speaker 4: and she says, now, is it my turn? I said no,
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  Speaker 4: I got one more episode and then we're gonna turn
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  Speaker 4: the TV off because you don't need to be watching
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  Speaker 4: TV all the time. And she looked at me with
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  Speaker 4: the disgust of a fourteen year old. I swear to god.
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  Speaker 4: She rolled her eyes at me and then went upstairs.
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  Speaker 4: My daughter is three going on thirty. It is absolutely insane.
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  Speaker 4: I I I I. I wish you luck because I
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  Speaker 4: know that Mara is still two years out until then.
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  Speaker 3: But who.
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  Speaker 2: Is only one year out? She's only a year and
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  Speaker 2: a half younger.
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  Speaker 3: And that's right, Oh my gosh, yeah, she's she's one
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  Speaker 3: year out.
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  Speaker 4: She did I did hear her give you a little
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  Speaker 4: bit of attitude right before we went live, So I'm like, yep,
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  Speaker 4: I get it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we're in the for those listening. We're in the
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  Speaker 2: phase of potty training and uh also fighting naps, so
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  Speaker 2: she didn't have a nap today, So that doesn't help
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  Speaker 2: the situation at all. I hear negotiating with her dad
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  Speaker 2: right not for one word.
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  Speaker 4: So abby the other day literally this week, looked at
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  Speaker 4: me and she said, I think we're like, I think
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  Speaker 4: the phase of naps is behind us, and like the
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  Speaker 4: sense of dread that just came over me and my
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  Speaker 4: body and I'm just like, I still need it though.
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  Speaker 2: See, but I grew up. I grew up with you
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  Speaker 2: like you get quiet time until you're like eight years old.
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  Speaker 4: So see, that's what we need to quote unquote because
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  Speaker 4: my mom. I love my mom to a point. She
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  Speaker 4: she and I were talking the other day and she's like, Clay,
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  Speaker 4: I trained you, guys.
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  Speaker 3: I trained you guys so good. You never woke me
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  Speaker 3: up when y'all.
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  Speaker 4: Were younger, Like early in the mornings, y'all made your
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  Speaker 4: own breakfast, you did all that. You knew how to
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  Speaker 4: work the TV, you knew how to turn and the
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  Speaker 4: volume you trained. I trained you, so you just need
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  Speaker 4: to train her.
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  Speaker 3: And I was just like, m that feels like the
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  Speaker 3: wrong wording.
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  Speaker 4: That it feels yucky, and I don't want to train
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  Speaker 4: my daughter. I would like to teach her things and
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  Speaker 4: be a part of that process, but training her, she's
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  Speaker 4: not a dog.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm actual evidence. So anyways, yeah, it's.
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  Speaker 3: A whole it's a whole thing. But we are not here.
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  Speaker 4: This is not a parenting podcast, guys, This is a
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  Speaker 4: Star Wars podcast.
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  Speaker 3: We got just very very small pieces of news. The
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  Speaker 3: second bit of.
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  Speaker 4: News is barely even any news because it was something
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  Speaker 4: that we had discussed even before said thing was released.
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  Speaker 3: So we'll talk about it here in just a second.
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  Speaker 3: But I sent Katie a video on Instagram.
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  Speaker 4: Esquire had a interview with n Hathaway and Ian McGregor
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  Speaker 4: due to their new movie that is going into theaters soon.
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  Speaker 3: I can't remember the title of the of the movie.
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  Speaker 4: It looks interesting. It's a very interesting concept. It's our
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  Speaker 4: neighborhood something or other. I literally cannot remember the freaking
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  Speaker 4: name of it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm giggling. Hang on the end of Oak Street.
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  Speaker 4: The end of Oak Street, Yes, the end of Oak Street.
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  Speaker 4: The end of Oak Street.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: The concept is like their street, their neighborhood street somehow
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  Speaker 4: is transported to either like a different part of time
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  Speaker 4: or whatever, like I don't know the full extent of it,
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  Speaker 4: but there's like dinosaurs involved in all sorts of weird stuff.
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  Speaker 4: It looks interesting, It looks like a fun popcorn flick.
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  Speaker 4: But Ann Hathaway and Ian McGregor were uh both interviewed
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  Speaker 4: at the same time. They were having some uh like
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  Speaker 4: questionnaires of their own, like asking themselves questions, and Ann Hathaway,
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  Speaker 4: in one question, asked Ian McGregor, is there any untold
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  Speaker 4: story with your character of Obi Wan Kenobe that you
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  Speaker 4: would still like to explore?
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  Speaker 3: He said yes, he said everything past my Obi one series,
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  Speaker 3: all the way up to Alec McGinness.
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  Speaker 4: We've discussed that, like, hey, there's a long time coming
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  Speaker 4: to like visually speaking, when you see Ian McGregor, he
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  Speaker 4: is essentially supposed to turn into Alec McGuinness like yep.
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  Speaker 4: And we've talked about the age difference and how close
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  Speaker 4: they are actually in all yeahs right, And so I
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  Speaker 4: am still in the camp like I'm still like halfway
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  Speaker 4: like I'm on the fence.
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  Speaker 3: I guess that would be the actual yeah phrasing.
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  Speaker 4: I'm still on the fence on Okay can A Season
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  Speaker 4: two feel legitimate enough to like, is.
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  Speaker 3: There a purposeful story there that.
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  Speaker 4: Can move the of course ongoings Skywalker saga forward? Or
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  Speaker 4: is it just like, hey, Ewan's bored, Let's give him
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  Speaker 4: another season.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's very enthusiastic that he wants to continue
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  Speaker 4: the Obi Wan story.
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  Speaker 3: I applaud him.
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  Speaker 4: But we've discussed it before, like we we both have
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  Speaker 4: had both pros and cons to the idea of uh.
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  Speaker 3: Of them making a season two.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think the one thing that you could
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  Speaker 2: position to do is old man Kenobi where you and
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  Speaker 2: McGregor are telling it, and then you bring in a
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  Speaker 2: younger actor. And I know we're all in this age
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  Speaker 2: of oh we can digitize and like the age older celebrities. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: just bring in a younger actor if you want to
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  Speaker 2: do it that way.
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  Speaker 3: Like, actually, I never really considered that.
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  Speaker 2: It's very similar to the concept that we talked about
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  Speaker 2: with Lando Calrisian's older actor and Donald Glover.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, my brain just exploded. Okay, picture this Lucas film.
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  Speaker 3: I know you're watching.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, we the end season one with Obi Wan having
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  Speaker 4: the conversation with Qui gon Jen. This is assumingly the
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  Speaker 4: start of their training to basically become a force ghost.
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  Speaker 3: This is essentially what they're gonna do. So why don't
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  Speaker 3: we make season two.
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  Speaker 4: An ongoing story of the training while they reminisce.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's basically on.
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  Speaker 3: Their younger adventures.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's about what I would expect.
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  Speaker 3: That would be amazing.
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  Speaker 4: Not only would we get a new young actor for
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  Speaker 4: Obi Wan Kenobi, but we could also get a new
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  Speaker 4: younger actor for Qui gon Jen as well.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so that would be fun.
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  Speaker 2: That would be about all I would expect, though, because
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't make sense for Obi Wan to go back
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  Speaker 2: off planet. So if you want Adventures of Obi Wan,
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  Speaker 2: then you, I mean, you already have the comic where
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  Speaker 2: it's obi Wan Kenobi's journal that he's writing for Luke, Like,
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  Speaker 2: it makes perfect sense to do it that way and
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  Speaker 2: approach it as such. The other thing they jokingly talked
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  Speaker 2: about was like, what character could Anne Hathaway's play.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I was. I was gonna bring that up
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  Speaker 3: right now.
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  Speaker 4: She made two comments, uh, one being what character she
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  Speaker 4: could she play? And she and I I think it's
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  Speaker 4: very cute and funny how some of these actors, like we'll.
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  Speaker 3: Start to talk like they know about like something, and then.
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  Speaker 4: Because it's funny because she sounds so confident saying it,
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  Speaker 4: and then Ewan's like no, no, no, no, not them, hold
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  Speaker 4: on no no, yeah, because he's like, oh, I could
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  Speaker 4: be like Anakin's evil daughter or whatever. He's like, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that tech can't make any sense right now, but it does,
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  Speaker 4: like I think it would kind of soil like the
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  Speaker 4: beautiful picture that we have of the organas but like
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  Speaker 4: you could have like a secret affair with like the
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  Speaker 4: organa family and then then Leah have like an evil
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  Speaker 4: stepsister type of.
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  Speaker 2: Thing, evil cousin is more than I would Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Would make a little bit more sense.
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  Speaker 4: But then and Hathaway did say that in this idea
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  Speaker 4: of a season two of Obi Wan Kenobi, she does
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  Speaker 4: want to be a part of it. And again this
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  Speaker 4: is her speaking like she knows stuff, which again I
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  Speaker 4: am not harping on Anne Hathaway.
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  Speaker 3: This is just what actions.
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  Speaker 2: Do, busy, and she's pregnant.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.
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  Speaker 4: She says, I kind of want to join you on
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  Speaker 4: your quest for Yoda, on this future quest.
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  Speaker 3: Which does like I would be curious.
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  Speaker 4: If you could technically, if you could technically use.
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  Speaker 3: Yoda in a season to a live one. I don't
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  Speaker 3: think you can.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think so, because that would ruin the entire
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  Speaker 4: purpose of them going their separate ways. And then, hey,
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  Speaker 4: if we ever met, it would risk both of our
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  Speaker 4: lives in the trying to hide Luke and Lea and
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  Speaker 4: you know, survive this entire Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And there's not really like a force ghost communication structure. Yeah,
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: but you could also be like Ryan Johnson and be like, yeah,
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: but I'm just gonna invent force powers, you know, so
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  Speaker 2: why not?
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  Speaker 4: I think it's fine for the acting chops that Anne
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  Speaker 4: Hathaway has shown throughout her years.
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  Speaker 3: I would actually love to see her in a Star
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  Speaker 3: Wars project.
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  Speaker 2: I went to. She's definitely one of my top ones.
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  Speaker 3: I need.
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  Speaker 4: I now need to ask because again famously we have
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  Speaker 4: the conversation is somebody too famous for Star Wars?
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  Speaker 3: I now need to ask Travis if.
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  Speaker 4: Anne Hathaway is too famous for Star Wars? And I
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  Speaker 4: genuinely think, like, because of what Christopher Nolan has done
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  Speaker 4: with Oppenheimer and now the Odyssey, I don't think you
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  Speaker 4: can be too famous for any role.
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  Speaker 3: I don't like because.
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  Speaker 2: What Zindea was in there for like five minutes Zindea.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so Zindea was in there. But then also, I I.
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  Speaker 4: Don't understand the idea of these like cinema heads because
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  Speaker 4: it's like, oh, popcorn flakes. But but then like they
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: watch Dune, they watch like it's there's still franchises. They're like,
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  Speaker 4: it's still franchising in a different light with a different
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  Speaker 4: director like that, that's all.
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  Speaker 3: That's all you're doing. People.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm I'm curious. I'm gonna have to ask
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  Speaker 4: him later today. I'm gonna ask Travis if Anne Hathaway
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  Speaker 4: is too famous for Star Wars because I would love
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  Speaker 4: to see, Hey, maybe we can have her in a
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  Speaker 4: future Star Wars movie where she is a part of
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  Speaker 4: the Jedi Order, have her be a jet.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I just thought that was a fun little bit
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  Speaker 3: and forth.
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  Speaker 4: We don't really get to see that from somebody who
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  Speaker 4: is a part of the UH franchise in i P
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  Speaker 4: and somebody who is outside of the I P. Too
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  Speaker 4: often we have two people that are always working on
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  Speaker 4: a Star Wars project conversing. So I thought that was
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  Speaker 4: really really fun.
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  Speaker 5: Other than that, the the only other thing that we had.
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  Speaker 2: Was an investors call for earnings reports CE Disney CEO
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  Speaker 2: Josh Dat de Amberro, when talking about the The Man
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  Speaker 2: Learning Gurgu and how it is uh the lowest grossing
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  Speaker 2: Star Wars film of all time, he said the Mandamorian
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  Speaker 2: Grogu drove healthy growth in retail sales for the Star
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  Speaker 2: Wars franchise and drew guests to the updated Millennium Falcon
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  Speaker 2: attraction to Disneyland and Walt Disney World, and led to
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  Speaker 2: significant engagement in gaming as well. We talked about this
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  Speaker 2: when talking box office productions, and I said, like, I
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  Speaker 2: don't think the box office as long as it can
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  Speaker 2: make its budget back I or like come close to it.
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  Speaker 2: I really did not think the box office failing was
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  Speaker 2: going to matter too much at the end of the
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  Speaker 2: day because of how well Grogu does with retail sales,
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  Speaker 2: and like, we saw the initiatives that they were launching
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  Speaker 2: with uh Galaxies Edge and like updating that and everything.
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  Speaker 2: So I really didn't think it was gonna be a
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  Speaker 2: big deal. And the fact that he said it on
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  Speaker 2: the investors call it makes me think that they made
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  Speaker 2: decent money with it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, we.
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  Speaker 4: We we specifically I remember us saying specifically that, hey,
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  Speaker 4: Grogu makes them enough money outside of this movie.
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  Speaker 3: Just putting more Grogu.
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  Speaker 4: Out there because of this movie is only going to
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  Speaker 4: help them. And I think now, like it was just
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  Speaker 4: I don't think it's officially announced. I think it's still
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: rumored they're making like a Star Wars Land. It sounds
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: like at uh.
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  Speaker 2: I think they're updating Galaxy's Edge to kind of expand
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: it and then like update it for like that's what
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: they're doing with like the comic where they're bringing it
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  Speaker 2: into like the Original Trilogy time frame and bringing those characters,
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  Speaker 2: and so I think they're working on expanding it and
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  Speaker 2: then but like opening up their options with it, and
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  Speaker 2: they will probably end up cycling through sequel characters in
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  Speaker 2: like one season, but then like Original Trilogy characters, we
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  Speaker 2: might even see prequel Trilogy characters come into play.
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  Speaker 4: So, now, before we jump into our main conversation, which
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  Speaker 4: is a Forest ninth Jedi episodes one, two, three, and four,
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  Speaker 4: we are going to be talking about five, six, seven,
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  Speaker 4: and eight next week, I want to give you guys
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: a little bit of an update because later on this month,
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  Speaker 4: we are going to be discussing the young adult novels
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  Speaker 4: of the High Republic and our rankings. I got through
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  Speaker 4: the first book, which was Into the Dark, and Katie,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if you remember this, and I tried
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  Speaker 4: to get an answer on threads from the author, uh
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  Speaker 4: and from Tom, just to see if they would, you know,
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  Speaker 4: even give me.
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  Speaker 2: A little Well, so Tom was not the editor on
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  Speaker 2: Into the Dark Tom. Tom only edits. Tom only edits
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  Speaker 2: adult books. So published under the Random House World Stuff,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: So you're editor for Disney Stuff Berries, but it was
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: under Disney Books, which no longer publishes Star Wars. They
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  Speaker 2: sent it out to Random House.
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  Speaker 4: I wonder if he would still know something though, because
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  Speaker 4: I totally forgot about this. This is one This is
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: another reason why I kind of wanted to do the
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  Speaker 4: whole rankings, is because we both had a little bit
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: of an itch to kind of go back and go
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  Speaker 4: through the High Republic.
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  Speaker 3: Again, and this was kind of the excuse to do so.
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  Speaker 4: In this book they mentioned that the When We Are
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  Speaker 4: because this is the book that introduces the Drin gear,
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  Speaker 4: the gear were used and captured by the scyth mm hmm,
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  Speaker 4: and like it, like I don't know why I didn't
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  Speaker 4: immediately remember that, but like I paused on it for
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  Speaker 4: a second, I was like, hold.
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  Speaker 2: On a second, well, because if you remember in the
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  Speaker 2: Rise of Kylo Wrinn, the a Maxine station is actually
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: where Kylo Wrinn meets Snoke in everything, So there's a
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: lot of history with the Sith Empire with those regards.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: But yeah, the statues involved I haven't finished Into the Dark,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: but the statues involved were Sith based in order to
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: contain the drink gear and make it so they were
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: in spaces basically.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: But I'm glad you brought up the Kylo Wrinn comic
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: because it kind of answers my question that I had
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: kind of put forth on threads.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: I would that story.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: Like if there is any more actual conversation of like, hey,
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: what can we do in the High Republic to get
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: people's attention and like what books can we put out there?
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: I want that book. I want.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: I just don't know if publishing is going to work
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: with Sith at the moment, just because of how influx
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: everything is. I think they're going to maintain kind of
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: status quo with the stories that we do have and
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: expanding things in that region. The other thing I will
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: say about Claudia Gray. Claudia Gray got a lot of
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: hate for the Falling Star and like death threats. So
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: I don't think she maintains her own social media anymore,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Like she has somebody to do that for her, and
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: she doesn't respond to comments. So yeah, because people were
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: like really about Still and Geo's and like some other
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: characters that got killed off, but then also thought it
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: was kind of anti climactic and there was a lot
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: of things going on and stuff. So there's a lot
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: of death threats, which caused like all of the publishing team,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: like Cavin Scott, backed off of social media a lot
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: in the time frame, so they all just kind of
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: took a lesson from it and were like, we need
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: to like draw a line here.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: So man, I am telling you the the fa like
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: we complain about fandoms overall, but like I will say this,
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: like when it comes to controversy, you are just like
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: stirring the pot when you put in like, hey, here's
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: the book fandom and Star Wars fandom put together, and
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: then let chaos suit.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you think about it too, Like in I
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: think it was twenty twenty two, books to Graham and
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: book talk weren't even super big. Yeah at the time,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Like it's only just recently like picked up steam after
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Fourth Wing. I feel like so yeah, yeah.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Like the huge wave of Romanticy has really picked up
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: that whole thing. But yeah, that's that's a.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: Little bit of a bummerum because I just I want
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: my answers.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: I am re listening to Rain of the Empire. I
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: started Into the Dark, but then I went back to
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Rain of the Empire because we got the arc for that, guys,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: so but I wanted to kind of refresh in my
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: brain before diving back into it. So I'm about halfway
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: through that.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: I am starting that one next week, because I am
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: starting tonight. I am starting out of the Shadows. I'm
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: gonna do.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Two because there's there's a total of five.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: Books young adults in the High Republic. There's three books
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: hold On, hold On three in phase one, one in
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: two in phase two, okay, hold on, I forgot the
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: second one, okay, hold on three, two? And is there
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: two in phase three? There's three in phase three, hold On,
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: hold On, hold On, hold On, hold On.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: I got my books back, y'all. I can look at
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: myself and tell.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Y'all so that it would be okay. So into the
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: Light half of the Path of.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Vengeance Into the Dark, Out of the Shadows, Midnight Horizon,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Defy the Storm, Tiers of the Nameless Into the Light.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's what it was. It was Tiers of the Storm.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Defy the Storm or Tiers of the Nameless.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Here's in the Nameless.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: Sorry, I was like, wait, got like three different books
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: mangled up in that one title there.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay, okay.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: So with there being eight, what I plan on doing
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: is because I'm able to because I'm doing at one
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: point five speed, so I can like really remember things.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: I'm going to finish four of these books for the
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: young adult. Then I'm gonna read Written of the Empire.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Reread uh uh oh my gosh. What was the first one,
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Mask Fear, Mask of Fear.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna read Mask of Fear, and then I'm going
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: to finish the other four of the young adult.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: So that way, I am ready to just go through
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Edge of.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: The Abbess when we're done reviewing the young adult stuff.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: But that is a little update on what we plan
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: on doing at the end of this month and going
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: into next month. With that being said, Katie, I believe
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: we are ready for our review. Star Wars Visions Presents
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: the ninth of Jedi episodes one, two, three, and four.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: Katie initial thoughts of what we have seen so far.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: I do need to know have you watched.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Anything else past episode four?
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Originally I was going to, but then I didn't have time,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: so then I did because I wanted to avoid spoilers.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: But I haven't seen a whole lot of conversations. But again,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: I also didn't have a whole lot of time on
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: social media today.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: So that's that's what's gotten me a little interested in shooting.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: On the party. Sorry, Matt sent me a candy gift.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: I'm very excited.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: I am very interested to get into four or five
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: through eight, because guys, if he could have joined, he
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: would have. Adrian texted me earlier today and said that
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: he won't be able to make it. He had some
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: other stuff that he needed to finish, but he said
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: this definitely need to talk about five through eight. Oh my,
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: I will say I am impressed one thousand percent could
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: have been.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: A weekly release. I was not expecting that.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: Because and this is just my initial thoughts one through four,
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: although it brings up interesting concepts that I see being
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: fulfilled throughout the series.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Of course, five through eight one through four is nothing new.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: It really is kind of like your catalyst moment that
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: we see in all Star Wars films without saying too
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: much because we had just like initial thoughts kind of thing.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: It really is standard. But despite that, I was pleasantly
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: surprised with how much I was actually enjoying the story.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: I know, we talked last week guys about how I was,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: how I was concerned that we weren't really gonna go
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: anywhere new with things. And then like how they have
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: the character descriptions like the what is it called the
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: character guide on Star Wars dot com, and they reveal
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: in the character guide that they released a week before
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: the show that actually the father was the Jedi Knight.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: I was pleasantly surprised with how they handled that, so
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: and like, I still don't like that they publish that
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: because I feel.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: The reveal would have been really nice seeing it in
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: the show. Yeah, yeah, I I agree.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: This was really easy on the eyes.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: I don't think they did anything too crazy as far
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: as like choreographed to like really like especially with somebody
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: like you in the instance of some of your migraines
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: and everything else, Like this was not too flashy it
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: wasn't crazy, very easy on the eyes, story was easy
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: enough to follow. I will say there was some awkwardness
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: with the writing.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: And I think, like not just cheesy, but just like
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: some of the like did.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: You watch the dove or did you watch the sub?
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: I watched the dub after I did when we finish,
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: when we finished watching and we finished reviewing, I am
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: going to watch the entire thing through subbed, which normally
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: with the last two times I have watched both Virgin
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Virgins versions of each of the individual episodes on visions,
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: but this I just didn't have the time to do.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: So Yeah, and I think I'll probably watch the sub
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: this weekend, like I'll watch through five through eight, but
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: then I'll watch the sub for next week.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: The other thing, guys that happened in my life that
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: has been crazy is my sister got engaged and she
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: wants to try and have a mini wedding in two months.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: But that expects like we have to help plan in things,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: so I have to do that this weekend too. So yeah, okay,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: So that is my goal for this weekend is watch
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: five through eight and then be able to watch the
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: subah of it and kind of get both so we
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: can talk, so I can talk about that next week.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: But yeah, definitely did not have time to do sub
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: today because I have to be focused.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: Yea, As of right now, there is no real standout
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: character for me. Everything is kind of easy going right now.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: There is a lot.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: Of people on threads right now that are a little
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: fanning themselves over over the villain. We did get a
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: face reveal. I believe it was episode three that we
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: got a face reveal.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: Yes, four, it was for it was the final episode.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: Okay, uh, not the final episode, but the final episode
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: that we are talking about.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: We did get a face reveal here.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: Some of the stuff that I was saying was like, yeah,
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: you know, we got a new Star Wars show. You know,
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: cool and all, but oh my god, the villain is hot.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: I'm just like, that's all you took out of everything
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: that we are trying to push forward in like New
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: Star Wars, Like hot villain is the only thing we're
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: taking away.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it brings the fans.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: If it brings in new fans, I think I will
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: get over it. But I just thought that was very
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: very funny.
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: You're in romanticy Land, come on, that is very true
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: one thing that I think as far as and we
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: can start getting into spoilers here, there is still a
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: lot of mystery.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: I will say this. I'm glad this is not a
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: complete New Hope reskin. Now, yes, there is little crumbs
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: of New Hope here, but it is not a New
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: Hope reskin. And let me tell you. There is a
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: quick moment where the General General Noam is introduced as
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: a villain. And I say introduced verbally. You don't see
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: him first, you only hear about him, and then they
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: discuss something about Kara's father and then you see General Noam,
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: and I'm like, don't you do it. Don't you make
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: her father General Noam, because I will throw something. I
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: will throw something across this room right now if it
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: is revealed that he is the father. But then they
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: were both in the same room together, and I'm like,
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: thank god, because the there's a moment where Noam is
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: fighting a supposed masterless Jedi and when he defeats that
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: masterless Jedi which doesn't have a lightsaber, so we still
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: don't even know if that was a masterless Jedi or not.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: There's a quick flash to Kara's father and the way
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: the shading around him. It made me think he's inside
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: the suit for a quick second, and I'm like, don't
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: you do it?
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: God damn it. But I think it might be.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: I actually never got there, and I think it's because
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Simoulu voices the English version of the character, and so
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: I was just I've always got in my head that
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: he's going to be a good guy. So I was like,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: I can't possibly, So I never went that far. I
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: did find it interesting the twist with the father that
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: he killed the Master that was on Bibben like trying
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: to reignite the Jedi order. I totally saw that coming.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, he had to have a reason,
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: like for Jerro to trust him. I was like, like,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: he knew all these people were bad, like in the
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: opening episode of Like Visions. He knew the people were
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: bad in Vision season one with the short film. So
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: I was like, I feel like if there was a
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: if there was a recognizable reason, Jerro would have detected
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: if something was a miss. So I was like, Okay,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: there has to be a reason, and there was. The
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Master had been corrupted by politics. What a surprise.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: So my my my question to you is, and I'm
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: gonna elaborate a little bit and give context to this, because,
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: as we have discussed in previous episodes of this podcast,
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: there has been I'll say it blatantly, a very toxic
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: conversation around the idea of what people call gray Jedi.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: There's a little bit of a spin on this idea,
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: and I say it, I don't even know if it's
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: even connected to that idea.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: But in this universe of.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: Star Wars of the Ninth Jedi, kyber crystals change color
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: based on you're a lot and relationship with the Force.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: We've seen people have red lightsabers, clearly, We've seen people
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: have blue, green, and we even have hoem with purple.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: We find out that.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: Zeema car is Dad, in the midst of the fight
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: with his Master, had his blue lightsaber transform into a
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: silver lightsaber, which in my eyes is a pretty neutrul color.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And the way that was explained in Vision season
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: one was that basically you your heart didn't know which
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: way it was leading. Yeah, was the structure. I think,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: I know it flashed red and then it flashed silver,
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: and I think it's because so I think initially the
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: red flash was because the Master had his hand on it,
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: and so you could see the tip kind of like
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: flashing where Red was taking over it, but then it
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: fought back because he must all have had his hands
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: on it. And so then I think the neutral state
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: that Nam sees in that moment, I think is Ziema
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: kind of going, Okay, I have to accept that I
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: have to take this guy out for the benefit of us,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: all kind of thing. Yes, And that was the perfect
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: balance that now n'am has become obsessed with.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: Yes, which the big reveal in the trailer and of
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: course in this first four episodes, is that No, wom
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: is revealed to have a blue lightsaber, is very devastated
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: with this because she kind of like innocently.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: And kind of like, uh, ignorance.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: Ignorantly I think is kind of like a really harsh
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: term of saying it, but I don't really know how
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: else to say it. She because all she's ever known
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: is her life with her father. She believes, oh, every
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: lightsaber is forged by my father, and so when she
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: sees a blue lightsaber, or even the red one that
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: was also wielded.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: By No Genora, is it is there an arn name
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: hold on.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: Gino, it's g E N N h Yep, you're right, yeah.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: Gino, he has a red lightsaber.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: So she's like, oh my gosh, Like I can't believe
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: that my father would you know, forge this lightsaber for
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: this type of individual.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: We get a little bit.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: Of sith lore in this universe as well, about passing
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: down lightsabers and stuff like that. But it is also like, hey,
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: he's not the only forger.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: Of lightsabers, uh kind of thing.
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So with Noam having this blue lightsaber, Kara is
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: very like, oh my gosh, does that mean he's not
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: a bad guy?
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: What's going on? A little bit conflicted again, guys.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: She is new to all of this, Like when somebody
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: even asks her after she's holding a lightsaber, hey, are
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: you a Jedi? She's like, uh, I guess I don't know,
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: like like this is all new, Like she yeah, like
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: it's a new concept to her.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: And so.
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: I really dig the idea because everybody's the hero of
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: the wrong story, right, That's like the big thing about
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: any narrative story.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: Seeing this.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: Is really fun because we get to see an actual
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: evolution of a character. There is a moment in episode
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: four where we do get this moment of Noam's blue
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: lightsaber changing into that silver.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Well, but it's when he picks up Juro's lightsaber because
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Kara cuts Noam's lightsaber in half, because we see in
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: the flashback where Noam is talking about his past that
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: he actually picks up the Master's Blade, which had not
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: been forged by Jima, which is why it was blue,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: and he picks up the Margrave's lightsaber. He's able to
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: get that Kiber crystal a tuning which shows him the silver,
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: the so called balance that he thinks he's trying to achieve.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: So I wonder I have to wonder if Na'am thinks
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: that now that he's killed Juro, if he's achieved that
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: balance himself, even though because he may not know what
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Jima did with the tuning of the Kiber crystal, so
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: it changes based on the holder.
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm interested in that as well. You know,
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: as far as Adrian has said, episodes five through eight
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: are a really big like part of this series, So
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: I am really anxious to get to that point. I
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: don't know if I'll be able to watch it tonight,
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: but I will probably be setting some side setting aside
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: sometime tomorrow to get at least started on it, but yeah,
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: I'm very curious about it.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: I will be completely honest.
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: We haven't talked to him about about him very a
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: lot in this conversation, but Ethan. Ethan was a very
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: big part of episode one of The Vision season one.
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: He was almost non existent in the second episode because
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: that was really focusing on Kara and her future mission
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: of what this series.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: Was going to be about. Yep, when he did not
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: show up in the beginning, I was like, where is he?
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: I legitimately thought, oh my god, they forgot to include
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: Ethan in this series because I was like, where is he?
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: What's going on? But then they finally mentioned him and
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: then we see he's on a separate mission. Yeah, I
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: was like, Okay, at least they they acknowledge the fact
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: that he has been absent in these other episodes.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: So I'm really glad for that.
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: I want more just because I think his design is
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: really fun. But he's kind of just there homem or
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: home Omen sorry Homan Wild's the purple lightsaber.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: He's kind of just there. He's not doing a whole lot.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: Right, but I think he's an important transition piece for
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: what's to come with Dureau's death in the fourth episode.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: That is true, which because we'll go ahead, go ahead.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Because like you need somebody else there, and Ethan doesn't
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: have the experience that Holman does to really balance things out.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: And Homan probably also has some additional information because he
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: was a Jedi that went undercover in the Sith and
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: got he got lured by the dark Side, so he
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: probably at least has a little bit more information on
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Jedi techniques and stuff, so he could be an important
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: factor in five through eight.
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: But there was an additional member of our little ragtag group.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: I cannot remember his name for the life of me.
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: We got to see essentially the Jedi world where they train,
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: where they given yeah, yes, where we also see a
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: mining colony. This is where we meet a group of
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: individuals and like their first interaction is the freaking Margrave
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: just in the midst of battle with them, like just
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: running up to them, grabbing the sword that the other
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: guy threw and they just start fighting, and I'm just like,
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: what in the world is going on? Even cars like,
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: oh my god, people are gonna die. What's going on?
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: And of course this is just playful that they know
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: each other, and this is Duro trying to recruit new
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: Jedi to hey, this what's going This is what's going
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: on in the galaxy. We need your help. And we
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: do get one more new recruit. And again, like I said,
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: I can't remember his name.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: For the charts of the k and it's not on
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: the character guide.
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: I am trying to see if he is in the wiki.
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's the short film, Wicky, That's why it's not here.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Other than that, I still we haven't really talked
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: a whole lot about the animation style. Still love this
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: animation style. I love how the ship battles have looked
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: for the show. I know, in uh Vision season three,
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: like I wasn't the hugest fan of how the ship
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: looked animation wise compared comparatively to the characters and stuff,
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: But getting in the zone and experiencing it more, I
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: really started to really enjoy it. I love that we
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: got ship battles. We have multiple ship battles in this.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: It's fantastic animation style. I have loved the combat sequences.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: We've got really good lightsaber fights in this. Not like spectacular,
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: but they're really really well choreographed and draw you into
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: the zone for sure.
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I I am really liking the uh the choreography
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: in this. There was even like an older Jedi in
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: the very beginning, very first episode.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: His name was he is done by Yeah, Yeah, done
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: by very old dude. He's the leader of what's the city.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: His lead planet.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: It actually does Moco dumb Moco at Macoma Co.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Macoma Co. And he is very hesitant at first.
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: He's like, n hey, guys, that that that lives behind me,
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: Like what are you all doing? Like this this is
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: something we cannot do. But then when General uh Nawam
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: comes in with his army, that's when done By like
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: it's covering for them. It's like, oh, I don't know
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: what you're talking about. I've never seen these people before,
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: like blah blah blah. And that's when Carr's like, oh crap,
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: he's actually like working with us, he's actually helping us.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: We get to see him.
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: Fight, but we do see that he's very winded. He
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: hasn't done this in a very long time. Yeah, there's
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: there's a couple of years past this prime. I really
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: like that detail. It shows like, hey, like because he
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: hasn't fought in a while, he's he's gonna be slower.
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: It's gonna be a little bit trickier.
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: This is why we need to go.
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: And recruit more people, because there's people who have just
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: forgotten about this life. So I I do like that
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: small detail. I know there's gonna be some.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: Poor dum.
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm just gonna say some of the earth people
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: that are going to complain about how our group of
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: heroes hopped in hyperspace into the atmosphere.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: Macomoco. I thought it was cool, the idea of them
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: escaping just so.
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: That way they can get enough distance to essentially go
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: in for a sneak attack.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: I thought that was a fun idea.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: And hyperspace jumping in atmosphere has been done. It's done
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: in the Higher Republic books, and it's been done in
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: other cases. It's just very dangerous, which is why it's
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: not recommended.
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's even been done in other visions like it.
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: It was done in the with the Prince and the
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: the Old Lady Android. They hyperspace jumped like in atmosphere
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: going straight up.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So like I just know because it's really silly
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: things like that.
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: It's like, guys, not only is this a fictional world,
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: but like there has been other cases of it, but
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: because it isn't done or it's been mentioned that it's
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: impossible to do, and the original trilogy, you just see
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: that as like, hey, it can never be done, which
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: I think is so stupid. But yeah, I am enjoying
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: what I am seeing. I do not think that. Unfortunately,
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: if somebody were to say, like, hey, I'm giving this
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: four episodes to see if I want to move forward,
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: I would be really interested to see if that is
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: the case for people. Yeah, because watching this, I know
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna watch all eight episodes. Yeah, but I'm afraid
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: that from what I have seen in episodes one through four,
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: if it's going to keep enough people's attention. And that
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: is also why I think that eight episodes is two
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: damn small people.
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: It's like, we've complained about this before. I don't need
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: to vent too much.
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: We we we took twenty three episode seasons for granted,
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: and we asked to reel it back and they took
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: us too literally, and it's it's just it's horrible.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: It's absolutely horrible.
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I I like, I think the gimmick, if you
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: want to even call it that, of or the I
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: wouldn't even call it a gimmick.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: I'll call it a.
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: Narrative plot device of the hyper crystals changing via the characters.
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: You know, heart alignment and relationship with the force is
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: a very fun thing, I think because just like the
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: reveal of the bad guy having a blue lightsaber, I
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: think that's fun. I think that you could really have
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: some twists and turns with it. The again, like we
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: we only saw it in the very first trailer and
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: we don't know the actual context of it, but the
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: idea of Kara holding a red lightsaber like we now know, like, hey,
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: the the swapping of two different people with one lightsaber,
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: like it kind of gets kind of weird. So isn't
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: that really Kara's lightsaber that we see in the trailer? Like,
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: that's what's gonna be interesting to see or not. So
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: that's what's that's what's driving me right now. I want
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: to see what happens with this concept.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And like so Clay had sent me the last
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: trailer that came out, and for the record, guys, Clainn
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: and I neither of us watched that trailer because we
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: were like, if you wanted us to watch this trailer,
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: you should have released it. Oh more than two days
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: before it released.
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: That we completely forgot to mention the fact that they
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: made episode one of this of the actual Visions season
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: one and episode two of Vision season three three to
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: watch literally a day before the season.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: The marketing, it pisses me on it just it just
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: it irks me. It irks me.
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: I want to pull all my hair out. But I
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: am really glad. I will say this. As soon as
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: I woke up today, there was already people saying, Hey,
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: go watch this. There's new Star Wars content, Go watch this,
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: Go watch this. There's people who either they love anime
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: or they love Star Wars, or they love anime and
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: they love Star Wars that are trying to get more
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: people into watching this. I think that, regardless of what
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: you think, oh, that's a weird way of saying it,
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: I think that, regardless of what the masses will say
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: about whether this season is good or not, as far
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: as like the Ninth Jedi, I think more Visions presents
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: are needed. I think that more going into the wild
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: for Star Wars is needed.
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: Because this will show well, go ahead.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: This is such a unique concept to because I know, guys,
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, I know we have what if
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: for Marvel, and I know Visions has kind of been
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: the what if kind of spun off in a different way,
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: but nobody's been really allowed to explore in this type
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: of way since Realistically Legends and having a Star Wars
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: Visions Presents is basically saying, here's a galaxy, here's the
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: concepts you have to stick to, go have fluck. And
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: I love it. It's perfect and it's what's needed.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, No, like this, this is this is the first
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: step to get.
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: What me and you have always wanted, which is genre
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: within Star Wars.
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I really hope we get there. I genuinely do.
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: I really really hope that Lucasfilm sees this and they're.
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: Like, hey, we don't have to just do this in animation.
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: We can do this in live action. We could do
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: this in feature films. We can do this all over
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: the place. So yeah, I'm really really excited to what
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: the future will hold for Visions Presents.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: As far as anything else goes.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: In episodes one through four, I don't think there is
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: much else here.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: No, And I know we didn't really talk about a
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: whole lot guys, but with it being so many episodes,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: we really just wanted to have a general overall picture
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: of what was involved, and it'll be very similar next week.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: It's about two hours for the first four episodes, guys,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: two hours twenty minutes if you have the ad supported
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: Disney like Clay and I do, and I think the
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: back half. I think there's one episode this twenty two
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: minutes from what I saw when I was looking, But
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: then everything else lingers in the thirty minute region. So
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: and clearly I need to turn my lights on before podcasts.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: It just got darker and darker. But yeah, it was
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: a good two hours. I'm not complaining about anything, but
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: I am interested to see how it finishes up so
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: we can really talk nitty gritty next week. Oh the
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: other the last thing, because it was the trophy thing
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: that I talked about in the non Spoiled quession was
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: markret Dureau's death. That's really all I have to say
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: about it was that it was trophy. It feels like
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: that was like the biggest thing that is like constantly
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: reused other than the father and found Child methodology. So yeah,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: but that's it. That's all.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: I'm interested.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: Because there was like a small moment I was actually
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: cleaning some dishes and I should have just like paused
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: the episode. But correct me if I'm wrong. There's a
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: small instance where we hear Duro's voice after his death.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because he did the Force ghost Fade, gave her
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: the lightsabers Forced Ghost Fade, and then she gets knocked
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: off into like one of the mining tunnels basically yeah,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: and Duro talks to her and it is like, dude, you
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: did to get up and go because you go with that.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: So so yeah, it is.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: It is a big Star Wars trope of the Force
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: Ghost Master. It's a padawan type of relationship. I think
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: for me, I really do that you are right with this,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: meaning that Homan's role gets a little bigger, and I
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: really don't hope, like I really hope that it doesn't
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: just push him off to the site even more for
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: Kara's dad to now take over and be like, Okay,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: now I'm the hero.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: Well, I think, so Jima stays on Noam's ship at
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: the end of it, so I don't. The only way
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: I see Hima taking over is really like trying to
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: reason with Noam because of his guilt with how Noam
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: came to be.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: Basically, yeah, Zeema in my mind is one hundred.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: A like legacy Luke Skywalker. M hmm role.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: Here he is like the old hero, He's who everybody knows.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: He's the one that tries to reason with the villain. Yeah,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: very much a Luke Skyrocker Skywalker role here.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: I'm still I don't know how I feel about Ethan.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: In in the in the very first short film that
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: we were introduced.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: With him, I'm like, okay, cool.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: He seems like a like a very Larval Luke Skywalker
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: type of character. Yeah, you know, a New Hope type
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: of Luke Harawalker, not really knowing what he's doing all
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: this stuff. Like, okay, I get that. But Carra is
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: the in that role as well, and I'm more interested
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: in Kara.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: I'll be completely honest. I'm more interested in Kara's role
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: in all of this than I am with you.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: And Ethan might be fading into the back ground two
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: because he's returned to Kara and so his role might
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: become what Homand was in the first four episodes, which
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: I think, I agree with you is perfectly fine if
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: that happens.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, of course we need, uh, we don't need. But
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: of course, what is a star Wars Project without quirky droids.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: We have Ramps. The old droid he like, he doesn't
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: do much, but his dialogue is perfect.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think uh, And so I am perfectly good
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: with with the the quippie android uh representation of this series.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: Ye. And then yeah, I think that's it for me.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: And if that is all from you, I think that
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: is gonna be it for the podcast.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: We will be back next week with episodes five through eight,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: So yeah, we will see you guys.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: Then of course you can always find me at fanboy
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: Clay on threads and Instagram.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm really starting to use threads a whole lot more.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: I'm kind of just done with uh with Twitter, and
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: the only reason why I have is because all the
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: gua still uses the messages.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: And that is it.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: So check me out on the threads, check me out
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: on Instagram. Unfortunately, Jake and I were not able to
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: get together for our normal podcasting day, so we will
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: have to review the first three episodes of the new
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: show that we're covering this upcoming Monday, So go check
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: us out there on Ranger Alliance.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: Uh. And yeah, I think that is it for me. Katie,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: What about you? Y'all.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: You can find me on most social media platforms. It's
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: at Place of Katie. Remember this show is available uh
• 1:07:15
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• 1:07:19
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• 1:07:22
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• 1:07:26
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• 1:07:29
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• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: love to hear from you guys. Any questions thoughts about
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: the Ninth Jedi, thoughts about the lovely books that we
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: had released in July. We had Star Wars Legacy, we
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: had as Like Stars, so uh, super good books. Both
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: reviews are live for you guys if you guys are
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: interested in those. Just as a reminder, like Clay said,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: we are going to be talking uh our Worst Division
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: presents the Ninth Jedi Part two next week, so that's
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: episodes five through eight. On the twentieth, we are going
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: to be reviewing the Hyperspace Storage Codebreaker Trade, and then
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: on the twenty seventh that's our High Republic young A
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: Delivery King. So with that, guys, I want to wish
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: everyone a great day or night, whatever time and day
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: you're listening. Or watching, and we will see y'll next time.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: May the Force be with you.