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Running A Business Like A Pro Athlete with Dr. Sean Drake · Age Defiantly with Mark Young

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  we can throw the nervous system in it can click chaos, we can throw it in the
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  piece. I want to create chaos. What does it actually look like inside the body
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  of a professional athlete, the recovery protocols, the technology, the daily
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  maintenance that keeps someone performing at their highest level possible in the
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  world. And more importantly, what would it look like if you applied those exact
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  saying tools and principles to a 50 year old who just wants to keep doing what
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  they've loved doing for the last 30 years. It's amazing to me the safety factor.
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  Like, that's what it comes down to. Are you safe? And if you're not safe in your body,
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  you can't be safe in life and life's a sport you got to train for.
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  Where does a person who considers himself a high performing person even start?
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  Well, I think the first thing is...
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  Welcome back to the Age Defiantly Podcast. I am your host, Dr. Mark Young and I
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  had the pleasure of being joined today by my good friend, Dr. Sean Drake.
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  And I'm going to read you the bio that we have here about Sean as we join here because
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  the the the way again, I always say this Sean, I already hear this, the way my team explains you,
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  I could never get justice too. It's true. It says Dr. Sean Drake started his career as a walk-on
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  to the track and field team at Florida State University. He went on to earn a masters in sports
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  health science and a doctorate in a chiropractic from like University Atlanta and then spent years
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  doing what very few practitioners ever get to do that is strangling the world as a team doctor
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  and sports medicine specialist alongside professional athletes at the top of their sport.
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  Like you're a big deal dude. No, no. Like NFL NBA NHL MLB PGA tour LPGA X Games Nitro Circus
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  UCI BMX CrossFit USA Adaptive Serving. If elite performance happens here, Sean Drake has
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  probably been in the room and in your office like the entire office looks like the sports museum
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  because it's just autographed everything's from every team imaginable. But he took everything he
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  learned in the world and built modern athlete formerly athlete chiropractic in Scottsdale,
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  Arizona. His practice is built on the conviction that the tools and protocols used by the world's
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  best athletes shouldn't be explicit with the world's best athletes. Red light therapy, PEMF,
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  hyperbaric oxygen chiropractic sports medicine, biometrics, you run all of it together under one
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  roof and you are a featured contributor in the Amazon documentary biohacked yourself, hold
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  certifications as I blabla blabla. Dude, like I could go on all day talking about your credentials.
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  Yeah, but but the truth matters. I mean, I'm blessed to call you my brother and friend. But
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  beyond that, what I love about what you do is you could you could I could hail your athletes
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  your all day long and you'll probably try to write your most of them off and then be humble about
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  it. Yeah. Because that's who you are. But beyond that, I know you as all of this, but I know you
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  as somebody much deeper than all of this because I think a lot of people would take your level of
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  sophistication, acclaim, whatever you want to say, like you know some of the top performing people
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  in the world and yet you approach everything with humility. You approach everything
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  very, very direct thing. This is a guy that that doesn't get shaken about stuff and I think
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  it's exciting to watch that. And a lot of that boils down to nervous system regulation, 100%
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  and so much of what you do. And I think this is actually really cool because when people talk about
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  performance of athletes and all this other kind of stuff and I've been to your practice and I want
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  to talk through that too. Yeah. But I watched the way that you interacted with everybody that came
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  into your practice because while I was there for for me, I also was just watching what was going
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  on as well as water skills. Right. I'm watching everything that's taking place and making my own
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  observations. And it's like, I watched the way you were working with 18, 19-year-old young guys who
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  were in there from an injury. And I think most people think of recovery as you know, I'm going to
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  get them on some kind of balanced beam or I'm going to do something to massage out and not
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  in the muscle or whatever. Like you're thinking of the physiology of recovery and you've got
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  them sitting in a room on a yoga mat doing breast work. And there's one young guy where it comes
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  to mind because you have like people of all ages, male, female, everybody. But like this one young
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  kid and you're like, okay, so you wanted, you wanted to tell me about it, tell me about it,
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  tell me about it. And it's like, and I was watching like layers of this kid like do you want to be
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  the best? You know, and he's like, well, you know, if you can't answer that question for me,
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  then we can't go any further. Yeah. I mean, it's a standard, right? I mean, it comes down to,
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  I mean, Bowie said I'm going to give him credit for this and do. He's been my coach for the last
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  three years. And one of the things that he's taught me and brought back out in me that my dad
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  and still is you got to have a standard. And a lot of the times the nervous system can't match
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  your standard. Like you can have an idea of what your standard is. But if you haven't trained
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  the physical, the mental, the emotional, and the spiritual side of it, you're crashing or you're
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  hitting a wall. And then all of a sudden, you have a mental issue, you have a physical issue,
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  you have some type of other situation that's happening. And that's why you're not getting to where
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  you're at. And so when we work with people and they come into our office, you know, if there are
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  local clients, one thing, but when you come in for intensive, like we're meeting weeks ahead of time,
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  I'm giving you very specific things to focus on. And a lot of the things that people don't
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  realize is old injuries and traumas. And traumas aren't just physical, they're emotional, they're
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  mental, you know, and so if these are stored in your body, you're never going to truly make
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  anything happen. And my whole philosophy is that anything's possible. Life is the limitless,
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  you are limitless. You just have to have a nervous system safe enough to push that edge.
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  Well, the first question you asked me because I came out of your clinic. I spent a few days there.
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  And it was at a point that you observed everything as well. Yeah, much like I do. And
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  I'd run into you at another conference. We were hanging out and you're like, we need to get
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  your nervous system in check. I'm like, yes, yeah, there was no even denying it. I was like, yes,
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  you were correct. And the first question you asked me when I came out to your clinic, I was there.
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  You came in, you sat down, and your answer was, what does your perfect life look like? Yeah.
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  And I was like, okay, well, I mean, I keep a goal list. So I mean, I could have answered that
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  question with a scroll, but that wasn't the question. The question was, what does your headspace
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  look like in this perfect life? What is your operating system look like that delivers that
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  perfect life? And you can expand on that. But to me, I look at it as I can only reach as far as
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  my line can imagine. Yeah. And that's why it's so important. Everybody talks about recovery centers.
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  And I'm all form, right? But it's, it's systematizing what you need in that moment.
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  And the reason that we have so many modalities is, I don't know where your system is based on your
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  physical, mental, emotional state that I'm working with you in. And so throughout the time that I'm
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  with you, the first thing I'm like, okay, where are you at energetically right now? Because I don't
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  always blast you through PMF just to make it feel good. I'm like, maybe I need to bring you down.
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  Maybe you're going through something and I've got to, I've got to change that physiology,
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  not just into like the physical part, but on the emotional part. And so when we're working together,
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  I'm constantly looking at you, figuring out kind of where you are. And it's why it's so amazing
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  that we have these tools now. It's like why I say we connect science and soul, right? But it's
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  awesome that we're creating tools now that can magnify our opportunity. Then saying, hey, we
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  pretty go take a walk in the woods or any go walk on the beach. Well, we don't have an option very
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  often. So it's like, how are we bringing nature into your life? And at the end of the day, like,
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  we got to reactivate the warrior this inside men. We got to get females to being back into them,
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  they're their female side. And I can talk about my wife about it, but like, it's amazing to me,
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  the safety factor. Like, that's what it comes down to. Are you safe? And if you're not safe in your
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  body, you can't be safe in life and life is a sport you got to train for. So how do we build that
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  resilience, that capacity, that level within you that allows you to go back into the chaotic
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  world and not crash? Well, and again, going back to the whole nervous system regulation, right?
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  We live in a chaotic world. We're in this sympathetic nervous system, this fight or flight system
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  for most people all day of home, right? And then we want to go home and relax.
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  Do we though? We put ourselves in situations that should bring some kind of relaxation,
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  except we're sitting scrolling on phones, we're watching news stations, we're even in our
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  relaxation time, we're triggering these moments. Some of the modalities that you do, can you list
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  some of that? What is some of the down regulation that you do? So there's down and up, right?
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  Yeah, there's times when we need to bring somebody up and like say they're like, for instance,
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  you know, I had a guy from in that was suicidal. And so he came in for a three day intensive,
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  spoke to his mom, and he's going to be okay. We talked about this. I'm not going to say his name,
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  but he's known me for about five to seven years, I think coaching him, been a really good kid,
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  but he was done. And I'm like, hey, these next three days are going to be rough. They're not
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  going to be fun. Like, you know, by day three, you're going to be in a way different position,
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  but you got to trust me. And so the first day is all about safety. So I just regulated down
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  regulating them. You know, I put them on PMF. I made sure that we did flow press out. I made
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  sure that we knew you shift wave, Roxieva. I used Solodon to do, you know, sound system,
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  nervous system, regulation. We did some very like low key calm breath work. Just to get him
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  into regulation, I used NanoV to make sure that we got proper oxygen to assist them and energize
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  the cells. And what was amazing is you took this kid who was just frantic and to just pure calm,
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  not to mention the quantum neurology and working with resumes and then having EQ work on with
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  him by Keke, but like the minute that he got safe, he was like, wow. And I'm like, cool,
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  now I can go in and cost chaos. And so from there, I'm like, I'm throwing you to cold plunge
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  at 32 degrees in my burrosco. And literally, your cold plunge is the coldest cold plunge I
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  have ever felt in my life. It's the best bull plunge in the world. It's the worst.
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  Literally almost tears, but this sound modalities work. It's like, I don't have to yell at him.
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  I can throw him in a cold plunge. It creates this like fight or flay. And then he, he like,
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  either adapts or he crashes. And I knew he was going to crash, right? So he freaks out. I wanted that
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  because I had him at peace, but now I got a build that resilience backup in the nervous system
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  to start looking at capacity. So he gets out. And then I'm like, okay, cool. So now I throw him into
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  a heavier breath work and they can fill emotion for the first time. Like, actually, I have to feel it,
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  right? Like you have to feel your emotion or to heal it. And then he crashes goes in straight
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  me. Yeah. And my staff's looking at me like, shit, what do we do? And I'm like, show, it's all good.
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  This is a whole point of safety, right? Like he has to know. So then all of a sudden, I'm like,
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  cool, let's do it in the shift wave. So I throw him on the shift wave. I put him on a regulation setting,
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  calm the system right back down. So we can throw the nervous system in it can clear chaos. We can
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  throw it in the peace. And at this point, now his body instead of having to talk about it and
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  be like, oh, it's how many of you're feeling. Right. We're moving this energy out really quick.
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  And we're getting in the stabilizer realize that was a that was a trigger that's not rare.
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  So let's move past that. Well, and it's the idea that it's the, you know, throw somebody into
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  the deep end because they're going to learn how to swim. Yeah. It's there is that that pattern. And
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  a lot of times I think what people miss is they're always wanting that down regulation. They always
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  want to live in this, you know, and no, there's cons to run. Yeah. Like there are moments like
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  and I was used the example with I see a lion in the distance. Like it's time to run. It's time for
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  the sympathetic nervous system to kick in and protect me 100%. And as you mentioned, or even
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  before we started recording, like there are, there are safety systems that are built in to protect us.
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  Right. At that sympathetic nervous system gives me the energy. It gives me the adrenaline. It
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  gives me the nitric oxide boost. It gives me all of this to sprint out of danger. The problem is
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  I think for too many people, they don't know how to go back. Yeah. And some people, as you mentioned,
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  they don't know how to even get into the sympathetic. Like they, the balance in the automatic
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  nervous system is being able to shift back and forth. It's not that one is better than the other
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  know. And that's the key. Like everybody's chasing parasympathetic way. And like I'm like, no,
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  I want to create chaos. Because if I can create chaos under system and I can teach you how to be
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  safe in chaos, now you know how to turn on turn. Correct. And that's where like, I use the arrow
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  for hypoxic training, right? Like, you know, I talk about my life and my experience. And the reason
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  of this clinic is even the way it is is because of my own story at going through depression, suicidal
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  thoughts, comparing an Iron Man, having to use the modalities to rebuild my mind, my body, my soul.
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  And it's, so I'll use hypoxia to really put somebody into that like complete fear of death,
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  right? And so if I can take somebody into that setting of, oh my god, I'm dying, I'm dying,
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  but good, not in your safe, then all of a sudden show them that. They now know that they have a
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  higher output that when something happens, they can't freak out. They're using, they're actually
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  using breathwork and a modality that's actually training their life. And so that's what I love about
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  what we get to do. It would be what I get to do with you and then all our friends and CEOs and
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  people that are going through, but they're missing the traumatic side of their life. Well, so there's
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  something I want to stop there real quick. And I want to go into that CEO methodology as well. But the
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  one of the things that I laugh about my, I tell my guy, because my dad is literally like the most
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  optimistic human being that's ever walked planet Earth, but he's so self nurturing. It comes across
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  as being just that completely aloof to anybody else's concerns because like nothing phases him
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  ever. And it irritates the his eye to me, to be honest, because I'm not that guy. And I want to be
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  optimistic all the time. I'm not. But one of the things like for me when something's going poorly,
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  literally, I have to play out the worst case scenario in my head. And it took me a while to
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  realize that I actually was training my nervous system in some respects. Like I play out the
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  absolute worst case scenarios like in business. If something doesn't seem to be going the way I want
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  it, like I will build a budget as a worst case scenario. Like if this happens and this falls apart
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  and this happens and like if all of these scenarios that have me awake at night happen,
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  what are the numbers look like? Yeah. Because now I know the size of my enemy 100% and once I know
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  the size of my enemy, my nervous system down regulates because now I'm no longer operating out of
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  fear. And now I moderate, you know, I'll say I'm operating on a conquest. Yeah. Because okay,
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  I've sized up the enemy. I know all your stats. I know exactly what I'm going up against. I don't
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  feel unsafe anymore because I know this is the worst you can do. But most people don't know their
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  enemy. I'd really, you know what I mean? I'd read and they also don't have a plan and routine set
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  in place that trains them for that army. Well, and yeah, that's exactly where I'm going.
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  So in me, like it took me probably a lot of years of, you know, I know people who live in worst case
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  scenario, don't do things, but they live in a very vague space. Yeah, you know, in worst case scenario,
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  you know, but did it kill you? But did it kill you? Like that kind of mindset. It's like for me,
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  like I want to itemize, like literally sit and itemize the enemy. If it's business related,
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  at least the relationships are more complicated than that. But if this is the worst case scenario,
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  I can deal with that on over something. If I can deal with that, then this is this is the lowest,
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  this is the highest and the likelihood statistically is that reality somewhere between those two
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  things. No doubt. And that down regulates me truthfully because it down regulates me enough to turn
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  off the fear. But then the now I'm going to go kick ass, pox back into that sympathetic and it
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  is that training between that that that autonomic nervous system, right? It's the up regulation,
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  down regulation pattern. How does what you do play into that as well? Because for me, that's very
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  cognitive behavior. Yeah, 100%. So the cognitive is great. You got to match to the physical, right?
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  Like so many times we get out of our body and in all these thoughts, patterns, processes,
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  procedures, right? It's why I love putting visualization and these thoughts into what I'm doing with
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  my client. For instance, like we may I may take them out on a big mountain, like five in the morning,
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  and I'm going to challenge them. I'm going to make them look at different viewpoints on the mountain.
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  So if we're walking the mountain, like the first part of it, I get them there as sunrise.
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  As the sun comes up and I'm like, Hey, look, what do you know this?
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  You know, I was a beautiful view. I'm like, when's the last time you watch a sunrise or a sunset?
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  Like either one. When's the last time you did that? And then I'm like, okay, we get up the mountain
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  and there's a tough part. We use it at the top to that next view. And I'm like, what do you notice?
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  Like, oh, like the city. I'm like, how about a different viewpoint? You're in a different part
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  of the mountain. You have a goal. And you're frustrated with this viewpoint, but you don't realize
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  like that peak, you're going to have multiple viewpoints through this. So it's like, it's my way of
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  showing them, Hey, there's not one point. We got to be president. We got to honor it. And yeah,
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  parts are going to suck. Parts are going to be fun. Parts are going to be, you know, in between.
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  And so that gives me like by the morning I'm done with them and gives me an idea of how to
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  handle them and how to take them into themselves and how to show them anything's possible. So it
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  reminds me, Dan Sullivan and Ben Dirties would gap in the game 100 percent. And the gap of the
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  game, I find myself always, always in the gap. Yeah. And it has become and for people who don't
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  know what that means. It's it's the we measure ourselves against how far we still have to go as
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  opposed to looking back and realizing all those milestones along the way. When you're on Kilimanjaro,
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  you're not like, Oh crap, you know, how far I've gone. You're like, Polly Polly. One step,
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  right? Like the first thing that your guy tells you when you get to Africa is like, Polly Polly.
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  This is in about speed. Yeah. This is about progress finishing and being president. And it was like
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  one of the hardest lessons for me to learn because like, I'm I'm an all or nothing kind of guy. Yeah.
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  And he'd be like, slow down. And I'd be like, well, and so I'm related back to businesses.
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  I'm respect because I'm a lot of my life is spent there. And recently one of the challenges
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  that I got in a strategic coach meeting is I know where I want to go. I see the future so vividly
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  that anybody who doesn't share that vision irritates me. They are like, I get there because I'm
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  like, my God, that can you not see what I see? And I'm like, no, you can't because you don't have
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  my perspective on it. But also you don't have my review mirror 100 percent that you don't know
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  where I've been to get to where I am. So you don't know how determined I am to go forward because
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  your experience has been this part of my timeline. Yeah. And one of the one of the recent
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  challenges that I got at a strategic coach meeting was about literally putting together a
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  historical timeline of your business that's part of your onboarding. That every new employee who
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  comes into the business literally gets a, okay, so the business has been around for 12 years.
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  You only know today's staff. You only know today's clientele. You only know today's
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  address. You don't know all of these other things. And what happens is we all sit around the
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  campfire sometimes and tell stories about you remember when so and so worked here, ha ha ha,
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  that whatever. And it's like, yeah, but the business is more than that. This is this is a life
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  of its own. Yeah. And that that gain is part of my history as well. Let me relate this to your
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  listeners on that. Please. The same one with you. So I think this is this goes with the trauma side.
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  Yeah. Right. Like so often when we're working with a client, you know, they're coming in
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  if you're chiro PT, whatever, right? So I got to have a little background and you're focused
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  on the physical. Yeah. And when you really like sit down with somebody on an intensive and you
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  could say, look, I need you to write down your physical, emotional and mental and spiritual trauma
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  for your life. You don't and all of a sudden they start to look at it. They become aware of it.
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  And now all of a sudden they can feel it. You're like, you're you are not where you are right now,
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  dude. You have you have conquered this. You've survived this. You've done this. And what it does
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  is it flips the script on. So instead of being in this, you know, I'm in pain. I'm having this
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  current problem. I'm like, no, dude, like you've been beat to crap up your whole entire life.
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  And now we clean and clear all that. Now they're like, holy crap. I'm super humor. I'm like,
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  you are. And physiologically, each one of those reflections, physiologically triggers a
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  an oxytocin, the iratoning and dopamine response in the body because your percent gratitude releases
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  that, that, you know, neurological response where we end up with an endorphin rush, just focusing
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  on gratitude. It's like, oh, dopamine hit. Yeah. You know, dopamine hit leads us into what it leads
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  us into this next step, which leads to serotonin, which leads to oxytocin. You literally get out
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  of a depression spiral on just by focusing on gratitude. And that gain is off to me. You're right.
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  I tend to allow it. It actually reminds me one of my one of my favorite songs of all times. I
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  don't know if you've ever heard it's a CC wine in song called Al Bastard Box. Okay. You've ever
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  heard of it. It's obscure. It's an obscure obscure song. But she actually the song is sung from
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  the perspective of the woman who broke the oil on Jesus' feet and wiped him with her hair.
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  And she was being judged by everybody. But the chorus of the song,
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  you know, everybody's judging, going, that's such an expensive, you know, jar of oil. And you
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  broken on his feet, you're wiping the hair like that's such a disgusting thing that you're doing.
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  And me and the chorus of the song repeats as she goes,
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  out paraphrasing, don't judge me because you don't know the cost that it took me to do this.
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  Yeah. You know, it's the idea that you don't know the cost of that oil that I just poured. Like,
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  it was so many years of my trauma, years of my troubles that being able to do this today
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  is not an incident. It's an entire legacy that led to this moment. And I think that's important
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  for everybody, that gap in the game thinking. Well, at least when you're aging defiantly,
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  like you are, I think you have to, well, dude, I think you come off. But I think in reality,
• 22:29
  like you have to go back in time. You have to. And so many people, they're aging right now. And
• 22:35
  you know, I've been able to have been blessed out my mom and I, you know, my grandma just got
• 22:39
  put in the hospice last week or I or getting put in hospice and I flew in. And I hadn't talked to her
• 22:44
  25 years because of anger and things that happened to me. And it was amazing. I teach this, right?
• 22:51
  Forgiveness, like, loved. And I show up and she wasn't like coherent for like the week before
• 22:58
  and I get there and she's completely coherent. And I would run the eyes and my mom walked out of the
• 23:02
  room and I got real and I was like, why did you do this? Why were you? Why did this happen? Is
• 23:08
  you a Sean? I'm sorry? You know, I'm it happened. I forgave her. I gave her a hug. And it was like
• 23:17
  this generational healing and so many people that I see right now, especially my clients that are
• 23:23
  aging defiantly, that really want to be their best. They're the ones that are saying, look,
• 23:27
  man, I got to, I got to forgive. I got to heal my family. I got to let go of some stuff. And they're
• 23:32
  the ones that live and have driving lives. So much of the pain that I see 40 year olds are older.
• 23:39
  It's emotional. It's not physical. You may have a structural problem, but there's so much
• 23:43
  emotional stuff. And what's amazing to me is when you get these people in a nervous system
• 23:48
  regulation, pain goes away. And I'm like, I invest their body. That's and a love. First of all,
• 23:55
  thank you for sharing that because that's very personal and a so glad that you had that moment.
• 24:00
  And I'm glad you were open to it. And I'm glad she was open to the hospital because the minute
• 24:04
  takes two to tango in those situations. And that's that's so healing. I've recently, I think I
• 24:10
  said this to you. I did a Tommy Roblin's conference last year, but I'd also done one the year
• 24:15
  before. And my life was in such a different place, particularly related to family because my
• 24:21
  family's historically lived in the gap. Like there's been, there's been a lot of, you know,
• 24:28
  emotional dysfunction there for a lot of years. And the year half ago, that was probably the
• 24:35
  greatest burden that I carried into that conference. And so that's funny because a year later,
• 24:39
  I went ahead and did it again with another friend of mine. I was like, that was actually on my,
• 24:43
  all of the wonderful things that happened in my life. It actually was in the positives category.
• 24:48
  It was such a complete switch a year later. And I find myself just as much as I, you know,
• 24:54
  we all kind of just push that to the back. And that is what it is. And so on. No, it's not
• 24:59
  this, but it never goes away. Like you don't compartmentalize part of you. Like we are integrated
• 25:05
  beings, I say all the time. And it's like you can't compartmentalize part of you without
• 25:09
  it affecting those other pieces, 100%. Sean, I want you to unpack for me because I know
• 25:15
  part of your future part of your, your, your gap here is possible because of your lifetime of gain.
• 25:22
  Yeah. The gap for you next. I know a lot of what you're focusing on right now is you've worked
• 25:29
  with high performance athletes. You've evolved your own practice over the last couple of years,
• 25:35
  which in many cases has required you to actually kind of stop and say like, okay, wow, I wish I'd
• 25:40
  have done it this way five years ago, but I didn't know then what I know now. Yeah. And the
• 25:44
  admission of wow, I'm constantly evolving in my understanding of, you know, holistic treatment as
• 25:51
  well. In that, I know you're focused on working with with high output people, not just athletes,
• 25:59
  but that a mindset of the athletes that you work with. It's the same mindset for a CEO. It's
• 26:05
  the same mindset for a politician. It's the same mind like anybody who is a driven human being.
• 26:11
  These exact same traumas, these exact same nervous system dysregulations, like they all
• 26:17
  impact. And it's like, how do you unpack? What are the parallels that you see there? And where does
• 26:23
  a person who considers themselves a high performing person even start? Well, I think the first thing is
• 26:28
  is realizing that life is a sport, right? Your business is a sport. Yeah, your family is a sport.
• 26:34
  And the fact is, if you're not training for that, then you're going to crash. You're going to get,
• 26:38
  you're going to sound down to the minor leagues, you're going to kick down the league, you're going to
• 26:42
  mean. So I've been blessed to work with some of the most elite people in the world. And that's an
• 26:47
  absolute blessing and art, right? And a lot of it couldn't have been, you know, done without mentors,
• 26:52
  like Dr. Greg Rose, a title of performances too. I can go down the list of people, right? But now,
• 26:58
  what I'm realizing, so many people reached out to me to be like, you know, I'm not an athlete,
• 27:03
  but I'm burned out. I'm stressed. I'm in this darkness. And I'm like,
• 27:08
  why is it this so many of my players have succeeded? And I had to really go back and look at it. And I'm
• 27:14
  like, it's not just the physical. It's how I'm talking to them. It's how I'm getting them to see
• 27:19
  things differently. It's how I'm getting them to realize like, you're more than your sport.
• 27:23
  And all of a sudden, I'm like, hey, I'll say I took on a CEO that was like, can fully be burned out.
• 27:29
  He's like, like, crap, you just changed my life. His company just grew through 100%. I had this
• 27:34
  young kid and his dad's in over multiple businesses. And he's like, hey, I want some of
• 27:38
  a son to you for a three day program. Like, I'm not taking him unless you come to him. And he's like,
• 27:43
  why do I need to come? And then I'm like, watch. It's on my Instagram. You can watch it, right? Like,
• 27:47
  CJ is that like now all of a sudden, it's it opened my eyes to realizing like, I want to see
• 27:54
  business owners take control of their life in their nervous system because that changes culture.
• 28:00
  Right? If you can change the culture, now all of a sudden, they're in a different nervous system
• 28:04
  setting, they're calm. They can get chaotic when they need to, but they can stay calm. That
• 28:09
  trickles down their animal. That trickles down their staff. That trickles out to the world.
• 28:13
  And so if we can get CEOs to realize, hey, it's good. You're allowed and take a break to work
• 28:18
  on you. That's important. That's going to transfer throughout the entire culture of the company.
• 28:23
  Yeah. And if that happens, now all of a sudden, we have a real opportunity to move this
• 28:29
  ship from a sick world, a diseased world, a broken healthcare system and do a thriving world.
• 28:35
  And like, that's where the passion is. And like, seeing men take their warrior back,
• 28:41
  like, not be impassive saying, no, I want to be the best. It's okay for you to be the best.
• 28:47
  Stop 100% like quit apologizing for that. Quit apologizing. Like, be the best. Yeah. Like,
• 28:52
  I'm over. If you want to be the best work with me, if you don't, go somewhere else.
• 28:57
  Like, that's, that's what I've gotten to. I'd love that you're talking about culture shift,
• 29:01
  because I know you mentioned company culture, but I think it's national culture. Yeah.
• 29:05
  It's the global culture to be honest with you because in recent books that I just published,
• 29:10
  it's like, one of the reasons why I did it was I'll directed a business owners in small brandy
• 29:14
  commerce brands. And it's like, the entire purpose that I say is like, because I think there,
• 29:19
  that's where the backbone of American society is. Is it rest on the hands of the entrepreneur?
• 29:24
  Like, the entrepreneur carries the economy more than people realize, because they look at the
• 29:29
  big businesses and they don't realize where every large business that you're looking at,
• 29:32
  there's thousands small ones that are trying to make it and they're, they're squeezed,
• 29:37
  because they don't know. They don't have the resources. They don't have that kind of stuff.
• 29:40
  But man, if we can empower people like that who are living their most frustrated lives and those
• 29:46
  burn out. Correct. They drop us. They are the most burnt out. They are the people that are stressed
• 29:51
  out. I mean, a strategic coach here. So they're the ones that are working seven days a week and
• 29:58
  devaluing a date off because there's valor in being in the office seven days a week. And in fact,
• 30:05
  you find out that the people that are working six, seven days a week are usually less productive.
• 30:10
  Strategic coach, I mean, one of the things that I've really taken away from from dance teaching has
• 30:15
  really been the idea of defending your calendar. I'm demanding free days, 100%. And I'm terrible at
• 30:22
  it because there's so much to do. But the idea that when I actually just stop and say, you know what,
• 30:29
  I had a thousand things that he'd accomplished by tomorrow. And they're going to wait until tomorrow.
• 30:35
  Then I'm proud of you because we made the commitment for you to get Scottsdale. You put it in
• 30:39
  your calendar. I did. And you did it. Yeah. And it wasn't easy. No, because you know how busy I was
• 30:44
  during that time. And you're in my commitment to you as much as I hated it was that the cell
• 30:49
  phone stayed in the locker. Yeah. I never looked at my phone for three days. You know, I checked it at
• 30:55
  night just to make sure that if there was anything urgent that I was able to answer questions. What's
• 31:00
  interesting to me though is spending eight, nine hours, whatever it was at the clinic during the day.
• 31:06
  When I got back that night and opened my computer, I wasn't opening my computer in a frantic state.
• 31:13
  There's I was opening it in a what really needs my attention today versus what isn't urgent.
• 31:21
  But I'm so used to every time the phone dings, it must be urgent. When in fact, it's just not the case.
• 31:27
  Like we have, we're stuck on these machines that are popping everything into urgent mode. And
• 31:32
  the minute it eminute the phone dings, the sympathetic nervous system kicks in because
• 31:38
  it must be an emergency. And we we stop it recognizing what an emergency is.
• 31:43
  That's the scary part. That's the absolute scary part right now is that we don't know the truth
• 31:50
  between a like a fear response right versus it's okay versus a dopamine. Yeah. And like because we
• 31:58
  I mean, the phone is a dopamine. Like this is a dopamine. This is a dopamine. Like we are burned
• 32:02
  out on that 100% and it's so cool to take athletes, you know, people especially people that are
• 32:08
  aging that weren't thrown up in the technology world that are now addicted. Like before my dad,
• 32:12
  I mean, he was on this phone all the time playing a fucking game, right? And it's getting them back
• 32:18
  into their body and getting to realize like life is now outside of your house. Like you have an
• 32:23
  opportunity to do anything you want. Like what do you want to do? Yes. And so I think at the end of
• 32:27
  the day, it comes down to a few things. Like number one, you know, are you willing to look into
• 32:33
  your history and face it? Like look in the mirror. Like that's what it comes down to you.
• 32:38
  Are you willing to make amends and apologize and forgive? And it doesn't have to be in person.
• 32:42
  Like I think the biggest thing people get fearful of is like, man, I gotta go, I gotta go do it.
• 32:46
  I'm like, no, like this is you and you're like, if you need to go in person, that's one thing.
• 32:51
  Well, and sometimes the people that we need forgiveness from or oh forgiveness to are
• 32:57
  they're not even alive. No. But you can't physically have the conversation that you were blessed
• 33:02
  to have with your grandmother. Like sometimes those that reconciliation is has to be in
• 33:08
  trial because the other party's not even around anymore. And sometimes that amends is best left
• 33:13
  without a phone call. You want a person is alive because if there's a difference between healing
• 33:17
  a wound and picking up a scab. Yeah, you don't want to hurt the other person, right? And I think,
• 33:22
  you know, so, so often now, especially when I get to work with clients, I'm like, this is about you.
• 33:29
  Like this is you. Like what's the best version of you look like? And we're going to sharpen that.
• 33:34
  And you're going to find ways that are going to make you better every day. And yeah, there's no
• 33:39
  nowadays. There's tools. There's this. It really comes down to number one, can you control your breath?
• 33:44
  You know, it's the biggest thing in the world. Like do you know how to breathe? Can you just take a
• 33:48
  moment? Can you just be still? Like so many answers come to us installness. And yet we don't rust.
• 33:55
  Right. And at the end of the day, I think that's that's the biggest key takeaway is like, you've
• 34:01
  got to learn how to slow down enough to be still. And once you can be still, now you can create
• 34:06
  capacity. But if you're it's like a training cycle, if you're just constantly beating a crap out
• 34:11
  of the body and you're not getting stillness, that's an issue. Well, and again, people talk about
• 34:16
  recovery gaze. And it's like the problem is is most people's recovery gaze. So you didn't go to
• 34:20
  the gym. Yeah. But you didn't recover that day at all. For real, like you spent that entire day
• 34:26
  overstimulated doing other things like you didn't, I mean, maybe the muscle didn't get worked
• 34:30
  the same way. But that's only part of the training. And particularly for people with extreme
• 34:35
  athletes, perhaps no, disappointing their body is more important than a CEO for say, but it's all
• 34:42
  the same thing. I think it's the same thing. Yeah. I mean, you look at the report,
• 34:46
  Oshatai, and he sleeps 12 hours a day. He takes naps throughout the day, right? And you look at
• 34:51
  the top performing people. It's like they had set eating times. They have set sleep times. Like
• 34:56
  your routine matters. It matters to your hormones. It matters to your entire environment.
• 35:00
  In the fact of matter is is like, and I'd be guilty of this and something I'm currently working on,
• 35:05
  not hired somebody to look at my nutrition, my macros at microse, which has been hard for me to
• 35:10
  focus on because we're on the road, we're on the client, we're here there. But I've hired coaches
• 35:14
  now to be like, what kind of you? I don't want to think me personally, right? I think enough
• 35:19
  on helping others. I'm like, I don't want to think I need you to tell me what to do so I can do it.
• 35:24
  And then I just follow their advice. And then I'm improving, right? Like everybody needs a coach.
• 35:30
  Like I have experts that I look to that you're one of them, right? Like you're my one of my business
• 35:34
  coaches. And I use you because I know you're the best. I'm like, I don't play games anymore. I'm like,
• 35:39
  I've wasted 42 years in a lot of ways of ideas, thoughts, patterns. Now it's time to like,
• 35:45
  if I'm going to change humanity, I've got to have the right people on my team to help me get to
• 35:49
  where I'm going. But the end of it's funny is because you say, you're one of my business,
• 35:52
  I'm like, yeah, I look at you the same way. I'm like, no, you're one of my coaches as well,
• 35:56
  because I want your input and your wisdom. And again, just we end up in weird places that put
• 36:01
  these people in our lives, right? Yeah. You said something in there that that triggered a thought to
• 36:06
  me. And I actually lost track of whatever same because I was in there. It was you said you didn't
• 36:10
  want to think. Yeah. And the answer to that is, I agree. Like I do the same thing. Like I tell
• 36:16
  you, why do I go to a hit gym more often than anything else? It's not because I don't know how to
• 36:21
  use the equipment at my home gym. I will go to a hit gym because I think all day, I solve
• 36:27
  everybody else's problems all day long. And when I go to the gym, I just want my body to work.
• 36:32
  It's delicious. So you tell me what to do. You tell me what to lift. You tell me when to do it.
• 36:36
  You tell me when to put it down. It's not because I don't know how to work out on my own.
• 36:40
  But it's easier for me to not have to think about that. Like my brain gets a break while my
• 36:46
  body is working because all day long, my body's not getting used. My brain is. And I think that's
• 36:53
  a pattern that a lot of people can relate to. And it's, I think a lot of people look at over
• 36:58
  simplification as being a bad thing because they, they, they enjoy that there's a high that comes
• 37:04
  with complexity. Yeah. And I'm at a point in life right now that I just want everything to be
• 37:10
  simple and I want the simplest answer to things. And sometimes the simplest answer is this is
• 37:16
  really complicated outsource. Yeah. I mean, Dave asked for you to talk about that the best.
• 37:21
  He's always like, dude, I want the most efficient life. And he has a mentor of mine. He's taught
• 37:26
  me, but like I love the way he's like, if I don't have to text that, I'm not gonna go. I'm like,
• 37:30
  if I'm gonna put this person on this, I'm gonna put this person on this, I'm gonna hire for
• 37:33
  this. I'm gonna have my clothes pick up. Like there were, once I figured that out, I was like,
• 37:38
  wow, like towels in our office, for instance, like we were taking them and washing them at home.
• 37:44
  And I was like, wow, it's higher somebody. My sister actually made the recommendation. She's like,
• 37:47
  I guess just hire somebody. Right. And then we did. And it's like, now we're not awake tonight.
• 37:51
  We're not getting up and we're not stressed. We're not frustrated. We folded it. And it's like,
• 37:55
  my staff is calm. It's like, there is efficiency there. For reason, there's experts that do
• 37:59
  something that you don't need to do. And the thing is, is for a lot of those people, like that's
• 38:03
  what they're worried at. Yeah. Like let them live in their great thus, because you're not the ultimate
• 38:09
  when it comes to towel washing. You know, maybe there's someone out there who that is their best
• 38:14
  use case. You know, and it gets down to unique ability. Like I was talking to my team,
• 38:19
  who's here with me this weekend. Like I was talking with them. And like I hope you guys see,
• 38:22
  like there's nothing at our office that I can't do. But there's also nothing that our
• 38:28
  office specifically that someone else can't do either. Yeah. When we're here, we're at the
• 38:34
  changing light destiny conference. Like there's things here that no one else can do about me. Yeah.
• 38:40
  Like, and those are the things that every time I'm stopped from doing the things that only I can do,
• 38:47
  we take a step backwards. 100% and that may be something as ridiculous as I'm having a furniture
• 38:52
  delivery sent to my house next week in the girl. The text message came, nope, sent it to my
• 38:58
  assistant, go schedule this. You deal with the insurance and the building. You deal like, I don't
• 39:01
  want to know about it. Tell me what day the couch is riding. Like, you know, it's just that simple.
• 39:05
  I don't want it in my life. It's one more thing I don't want to deal with. And that I try to
• 39:12
  live that like dance all of me even talk. Dance all of it hasn't driven the car in decades. I know.
• 39:17
  Because that's a waste of time for him. Why do I spend my time driving a car when I can hire
• 39:20
  somebody to drive for me and be productive in the vaccine? 100%. You're getting the done.
• 39:25
  Well, the same comes to your body and your mind and your soul. It's like, you don't have to do
• 39:30
  everything. There are experts out there that can help you get to where you want to be. I think
• 39:35
  so often I like guys, I see it all the time. I have people that get on the eye and they're like,
• 39:39
  oh, like, what are you doing? I'm nervous system. Well, they don't know you. And like,
• 39:43
  don't get me started on it. No, I know. But it has a big thing, right? They're getting fitness,
• 39:46
  yes. And this and that and meal preps and this and that. And I'm like, have you had your
• 39:50
  buttburn checked? Have you had your back? Have you had this? Like, if you have all that,
• 39:54
  there's one thing. But if you don't, like you don't know if you're improving, you may feel better.
• 39:58
  But you also made putting yourself into another reaction. 200%. I think it's good to have
• 40:03
  experts still. You get it all the time. People come to me because, you know, oh, you're the person I know
• 40:07
  who knows the most about a particular area. And they'll ask questions, you know, what supplement should
• 40:11
  I be taking it? And I'm like, it sounds like a complete sellout. But my, my answers, I don't know.
• 40:16
  I don't know your physiology. But I need to know more about your physiology before I can even
• 40:22
  comment on what you should be taking. Like, I don't know how you eat. I don't know what your
• 40:26
  dietary inputs in it. So when they get the same thing with business, well, I need help with my,
• 40:31
  with my marketing, I need help with my, what should I do? I don't know. I don't know your
• 40:36
  business. I don't know what you've done already. I don't know what scaffolding exists. Yeah.
• 40:41
  It's a deeper dive. And in our social media world, we can say it, but there's a lot of advice
• 40:47
  up there. Yeah. And it's a lot of really canned advice that absolutely makes no sense. And because
• 40:54
  none of it is contextualized. And that's why when people come and they talk about buyer hacking or
• 40:58
  they talk about health advice, normally my answer, they're coming in at the question is what should I
• 41:03
  add? Yeah. And that's why my response is normally, well, I don't know what you should be taking
• 41:08
  because I don't know your physiology. I don't have your labs. But let's talk about what you could
• 41:12
  do without. Yeah. Well, but how can I help you through subtraction? What, what things in your life
• 41:17
  do you think we could eliminate that may actually help your health without you adding more things to
• 41:23
  the problem? I think that's a big thing too. It's like everyone's like, add, add, add more, more,
• 41:27
  more, more, more. Take, take away. And I'm like, let's go back to basics. Yeah.
• 41:31
  Even with my pro players, sometimes I'm like, dude, let's get back to basics. Yeah, Mike, I
• 41:36
  get guys the question like, one of your top three buyer hacks, like what are the top three things
• 41:40
  that you think everybody ought to be doing? And like, okay, like, well, I'm going to respond to
• 41:44
  this because for a lot of people, healthy living, the biggest objection is it's too expensive.
• 41:49
  Wonderful. And I'm like, so I'm going to actually tell you what my top three are and they're not
• 41:54
  going to cost you a dime. We're going to start with sleep. Then we're going to go with movement.
• 41:59
  And then I'm going to add fasting because they're all about elimination. They're all about
• 42:06
  down regulation. They're all about autophagy. We're like, we're detoxing through all of these things
• 42:12
  and they're going to cost you nothing. In fact, I'd arguably say, they're going to save you money
• 42:16
  100%. I'm like, this is not an additive world that we can subtract our way through some of this
• 42:22
  stuff before we start adding to it. And again, Ben Hardy, science of scale, all right? Figure
• 42:28
  out the one thing that you do best and get all the rest of the noise out. And that's where we're
• 42:32
  going. And I love it. I absolutely love it. I love what you're doing. I can't wait to be part of
• 42:36
  your next chapter to see where this goes. I appreciate it. But I think you've got such a wide
• 42:41
  audience and a megaphone amongst influential people. And I look forward to I know what you do. I
• 42:48
  have experienced what you do and recommend to anybody. But I absolutely love the idea that you're
• 42:54
  going to magnify this outside of your current audience. And I absolutely love that reason.
• 43:01
  Today, we've been talking with Dr. Sean Drake, who is, I could read you as credentials again,
• 43:06
  but that would probably take another 12 minutes. But Sean Drake, who actually runs modern athlete
• 43:12
  in Scottsaw, Arizona, as well as any number of things as a keynote speaker coming up at the
• 43:17
  Dave Aspery biohacking conference. The I oath he changes the name every year. I can just be
• 43:22
  on this year. This year's be awesome. I mean, there we go. Which I love. I think that's
• 43:26
  a super cool name. But Sean is actually a keynote speaker in multiple different venues as well
• 43:31
  as being an expert and scientist in this area. Dude, you've taught me so much. And I appreciate
• 43:38
  everything that you offer care for anybody who's interested in getting a hold of Sean. I'm going
• 43:42
  to tell you look down to the show notes, Bill Nath, and we'll actually have all your URLs for
• 43:47
  your social leanings at athletes doctor on Instagram. We'll put all that down below. So take a look,
• 43:53
  follow what Sean's doing, because it is, I say it's addition by subtraction. Like you're saying,
• 43:58
  you're using all of these things. But in fact, all of them are just trying to reduce the noise.
• 44:02
  I mean, it is exactly what you're doing. So and I appreciate that. I recommend you check out
• 44:07
  Dr. Sean, learn more about what he's doing and his practice following on social media. And we
• 44:12
  will see you next time on Age to Firework.