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Mets Making a Run · The 3-0 Take

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take, where we talk
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all things Major League Baseball.
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Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes it all.
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Starts right now. Welcome back to the three O take
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presented by C Creek business episode 466.
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I'll be your host Kyle Corn. I'm here with my Co host Nate
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Reyes night. Road game Rd. game for us today.
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Yeah, this is a road Rd. This isn't like a home Rd.
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This isn't a home Home. This is Rd.
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Rd. Myrtle Beach, Cali.
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Ontario, CA. Which I didn't know, I thought
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that was just in Canada. That's not a real place,
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Ontario. You're in Ontario, CA.
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That's not a real place. I guess it's near Rancho
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Cucamonga. That's.
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What? I know that I know that we were
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there. That's where the Dodgers play
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spring training. No, that's not where the Dodgers
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play spring training. Where did the Dodgers play
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spring training? Where were we?
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Glendale, yeah. That's close.
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Somebody plays in in, would you say Ranchero Cucamonga?
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Rancho Cucamonga. So who plays there?
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Who? Who plays spring training there?
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I don't think anybody plays here.
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Yeah, they do in California. Hold on.
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We got to figure that out. You're right.
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What am I talking about this? Is an embarrassing start.
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I forgot. I thought you were in.
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I've, I literally said you're in California, but in my mind
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you're still in Arizona, but just elsewhere in Arizona.
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So I'm like, we were there, but clearly we're not in California.
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So there's. There's probably a minor league
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team here, right? Maybe that's what I'm thinking
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of. There's some form of baseball,
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whether it's professional, Little League, college, there's
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there's a level of baseball that I'm sure has played there.
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But no, I do apologize, little brain the.
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Rancho Cucamonga quakes. That's what it is.
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And you know who? They're the minor league
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affiliate for the Los Angeles Dodgers, Which is that C again?
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I know ball catch. Some single A baseball this
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week? Probably not.
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I doubt it. I doubt you're going to make
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your way over there. No, do apologize.
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As I was saying, a little brain dead though, because I have I've
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fully disengaged. I've fully what's the word I've
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I've just essentially cut ties with the 2024 Red Sox.
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I said last episode playing three-game set against the White
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Sox this weekend. I said if they lose a game, the
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question was are they dead? Are the Red Sox said.
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I said if they lose a game, a single game, I got rid.
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If you remember, I put out the video.
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I got up real close and personal with the camera.
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I said I looked at right, I looked you right in the eye.
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I said if they lose a single game, they're done.
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And what do they go out and do today?
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They, they take the first two games of the series Friday and
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Saturday, and then they drop Game 3.
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I mean, they, they milked out as much hope as they could this
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weekend for me. And then they're like, yeah, now
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we're, we're trash. So 4.
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Back in the wild card. Yeah, that explains why I was a
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little mentally, mentally slow there off the top, just not
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really being able to put two and two together because I'm I'm
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checked out of the socks. So now I'm as you can see, if
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you're watching. Given up A7 spot too, That's
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tough. We don't need to talk about it.
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We, as you can see if you're watching the video, shout out
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YouTube, shout out possible Instagram reels that come out of
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this. I got grimace behind me.
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I'm, I'm fully in on the Mets today.
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And even then I, I, I came in expecting or, or hoping or
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planning whatever, whatever verb you want to use there to talk
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about the Mets and their winning streak.
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And then what are the Mets go out and do they, they can't even
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do anything right. They go out and, and, and drop
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Sunday's finale. So you know, kind of killing the
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vibes there as well. I was, I was planning to come in
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and and give them give them some props because they've been
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playing well. They were playing 1000 winning
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percentage baseball coming into today.
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So that was going to be an easy headliner.
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And then they go out and drop, drop the finale to the red.
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So we're still going to talk about it.
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We're still going to talk about the Mets because they're hanging
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on and they're they fall into the category of not dead yet,
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which is something that we've talked about with the Tigers as
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of late. We talked about the cut.
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I think probably a week ago from today, we were talking Cubs in
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that same regard. So I mean they're they're just
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hanging around. They're kicking it around and I
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think today I want to say the Blue Jays were either up or tied
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with the Braves. And then I think the Braves
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pulled it out in extras. So keeping keeping that spread
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close as well between the Mets and the Braves.
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But what I mean, I'm just going to go ahead and ask you because
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you and I have very similar thoughts on the Mets.
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What do you, what do you feel about this little run the Mets
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have gone on? What?
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What do you what do you think this does for their hopes going
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into the middle of September? I mean, overall, like they're
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doing what they're supposed to be doing.
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Like when you look through this streak, the first win started
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with the end of the Diamondback Series, then through the White
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Sox and then through the Red Sox and then through the Reds.
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And again, like you said, drop in the last game of that Red
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Series. But like, this is what you're
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supposed to do. They're they're, this is exactly
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the position you should put yourself in if you're trying to
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work your way into the wild card spot and you've got to beat the
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teams that need to be beat. And that's what they did.
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They're doing, they're doing well.
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It's going to be a tough second-half of the of September,
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though. Like September's going to be
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rough for them. You know, it's it's Phillies.
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You got a little break with the Nationals.
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It's Phillies again, it's Braves, and then it ends with
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the Brewers. So there's no lay downs here.
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And when you're talking about, yeah, maybe the Phillies, they
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have somewhat of like a checked out series out of the two
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series, same with Blue Jays. But like, you know, the Braves
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are going to play them well and the Brewers are going to play
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them well. So currently holding that last
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or they're tied for that last spot with the brews.
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The Cubs just like don't anything the Cubs did this
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weekend against the Yankees was very like the Yankees just
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played poorly and allowed some runs given up.
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I think it's all it was. It didn't.
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The Cubs just don't really show me anything.
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I don't get any good vibes. I mean, there was the most
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energy I've seen out of that fan base was when Anthony Rizzo was
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coming up and they were giving him a standing out.
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So it is I in my mind this is really a two team race.
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It's it's the Braves and the Mets.
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But that's the way I view this. But the Mets been doing what
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they should be doing. And I can't believe I would even
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get to the point of saying this, but at this rate, at this stage
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in the game, I I almost feel like baseball deserves the Mets
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as that spot, as that wild card spot at this point.
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Because the Braves fans have told us all season long, the
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fact that we're even here is a miracle because we have no legs
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to stand on right now. We have nobody that is healthy
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that is able to contribute any sort of meaningful in in any
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sort of meaningful way right now.
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So it's like, well, if that's the product that you that you're
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hoping to send to the the postseason, it's like, well,
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what kind of quality of baseball are we going to get if that's
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the. Case I agree.
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And it's, it's not really going to get any better.
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If if anything, we still have what, 3-4 weeks left.
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It's, there's still room for injuries to take place.
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So I, I, I, I guess given that, given that we do have still a
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few weeks left, there is there is room for possibility that the
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Mets, that this Mets train runs out of steam a little bit and
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they're in a way limp into the, the postseason.
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But as we've said before, you just got to get into it.
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But going back to my original point of the two teams, I, I
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think the Mets would have potential most likely to give
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you better quality baseball at this, at this rate.
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So, and, and looking at the streak that they were that they,
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I mean, like I said, they just snapped it.
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But on on this nine game-winning streak, they were they had
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outscored their opponents 44 to 16.
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Francisco Endor did have a 16 game hitting streak that came to
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an end, but he is he's bumped his on base streak to 35.
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I want to say bumped into 36 today.
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However, the the rough news that come out of out of Mets camp
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this weekend was Jeff McNeil obviously fractured his his
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wrist on a hit by pitch on a very peculiar hit by pitch.
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I got to say. I mean, the loopiest of
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curveballs just caught caught him at the wrong place at the
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wrong time. Very, very odd reaction.
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You noted the just very Jeff McNeil fashion, but you never
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dudes are weirdo. You want to never well, you
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never want to you never want to wish I'll upon somebody.
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But it's just a strange, strange, strange things is all
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around. But he is likely out for the
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rest of the year. It is possible he makes a return
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to the lineup should they make a run into the bowels the depths
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of October. But I'm not holding my breath on
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that. So it's it's very possible,
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likely even that we've seen the last of Jeff McNeil in 2024.
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Yeah, 72 I think miles an hour is what I saw.
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It's like 72 or 74 something like that.
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Just like the perfect spot to get hit in where I do believe he
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he has like a hand guard, right? Didn't have a race card?
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That's what I'm saying. It just got him in the wrong
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place at the wrong time. He even said he was like, yeah,
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I didn't I really didn't feel anything didn't really hurt me.
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So he was like, I'm shocked that I'm I'm missing time.
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So that's just one of those freak baseball accidents.
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But All in all, I mean, you want to talk injuries with the Braves
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is certainly doesn't help the Mets case.
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But to put a bow on it, I I do think at this point the Mets
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just have a better product to offer as we approach the last
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few weeks here. So anything can happen.
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But yeah, either way, not I'm just going to go ahead and can I
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can I can I make a make a a claim here, drop a little bit of
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a hot take. Not really hot take.
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Neither team should they get in? Is it going to do anything of
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note? It's that simple.
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It's just a matter of what what kind of baseball we're going to
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be able to take away from whatever team gets in for the
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first series. Maybe 2?
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I mean, they're going to be dealing with like a very hot
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offense in the in the Diamondbacks.
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So right, I can never remember how the how the layout goes.
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Well, I mean the the. Two and three play each other.
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Yeah, but we don't know who's going to have the top seed
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anyway. So it's.
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Yeah, but I mean Padres. At this point, yeah.
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It is, for sure. I mean, there's still time.
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Padres is currently in that spot.
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But either way, you're dealing with either the Padres or the
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Diamondbacks. And yeah, I don't know.
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I don't know, man. I just, I don't have a ton of
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faith in it. I don't have a ton of faith in
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the Mets pitching offensively. It seems like they kind of just
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make things happen and squeak stuff out, but I don't I Yeah.
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And then like what happens when the Braves, you know, you throw
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Chris Sale and then it's just like, then what?
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So neither of these teams, I think you're going to make a
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huge dent. And it is what it is.
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You know, it's just how it goes. But this is this is like the
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reality of Manfred postseason baseball.
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You're going to have teams that they're going to earn a spot and
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I don't know, maybe, maybe they maybe they get hot.
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You never know. No stops.
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Getting hot. It's just like this is a.
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Reality of this is a reality of the the expanded postseason
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baseball and this is also reality of the NL East in in
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2024 as we've seen it play out. Yeah.
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Let's switch gears here, though. Let's talk about Chapman.
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Weird timing, huh? That was very weird right after
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the last. Yeah, it was like Wednesday or
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Thursday, I think. So it was after we recorded
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last, like you said, but 60 or $151 million contract extension
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to stick with the Giants. I got to say, I did see one
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headline. I don't know if you saw it, but
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it was something to the effect of like top names are now
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looking to play with the Giants now that Chapman is returning to
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San Francisco. And I'm like, pump the brakes of
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the extensions we've seen in the last handful of years.
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I don't think I've seen a headline with that that that
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lays that out with any of these guys.
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But all of a sudden, Matt Chapman puts pen to paper and
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it's like, hold on, I've got to make my way to San Francisco in
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2025. Nobody said that.
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Yeah. Who's who's who's feeding this
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lie to the media? Who's the is this?
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Is this a Boris thing? Nobody's saying that Feel.
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Like it's been somewhat forgettable, right?
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What this year for Chapman? Yeah.
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He's hitting 249. Well, entering Sunday, he's
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hitting two 4922 jacks, 69 ribbies and an OPS of 778, which
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is 47th in the league, by the way.
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I don't know of anybody that's dropping their bags or rather
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picking up their bags or should I say planning to pick up their
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bags and leaving for San Francisco to join Matt Chapman.
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I just, I just don't see it. I mean, good on him.
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I mean, good on him though. He, I mean, he bet on himself.
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He went out and got a contract that he was seeking.
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I don't what was he seeking in the that's.
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What I was trying to find actually, because he said it was
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six years one. 51 is so he like as I was saying, he bet on
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himself. He went out and got a fat
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contract. I still don't think it it
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matches or is even anywhere close to what he was seeking in
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the offseason, but you know, good on him.
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He went out there. He, like I said, bet on himself,
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got his bag, but I don't it it we're we're looking at the same
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situation with giants where it's like, what are we doing like?
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Yeah, he's 31. I I think defensive metrics have
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actually started to go down as well.
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It's it's strange. The Giants again, dude, like I'm
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trying not to sound so negative this episode, but the Giants,
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they just feel like that, Like there's money burning a hole in
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their pocket and they just willing to throw it at anybody
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and in like an aimless weird kind of way too.
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Like don't get me wrong, I understand.
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Chapman defense. But like, I'm not, I don't know,
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like you said, if I'm willing to part ways with $151 million just
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to keep it around. Yeah, that comes up to like
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25,000,000 change per year, which nowadays is like semi
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affordable. That's not that bad.
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But it's like, what are we, what are you expecting at that point
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out of a 353637 year old third baseman?
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Where like offensively the numbers are, I'm not going to
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say like middle of the road, but like, if you're going to call it
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like, I would say middle of the road to like bottom half of your
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middle of the line up guys that you're, you know, seeking that
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most teams are going to be seeking.
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Like he's, he's not anything super special.
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And you can even see that like, like a Nolan Arenado lately in,
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in Saint Louis, like you're you're going to see defensive
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metrics go down a little bit. And then you're like, are we
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gonna get those those same offensive numbers to justify
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this dollar amount? And so far in Saint Louis, like
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I bet a lot of Cardinals fans are like, no, we're not feeling
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great about this. Well, I mean, Nolan is having, I
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mean, he's having like a a pretty down year.
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I don't I don't think the regression was supposed to hit
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that hard yeah, I think he bounces back next year to to
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maybe level that out level that or get to a point of regression
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that made more sense this year I feel like was just a little bit
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I'm. Still, I'm still taking Nolan
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over Matt Chapman like I was in their prime, was taking.
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Yeah, no for. Sure, and everyone hated on
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that, but I just I don't it's again like if they have this
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amount of money and it just it, it seems like it's like the girl
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in high school and no one wants to date.
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It's just like she's just looking for a relationship and
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no one's down. And she's she's probably a
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pretty good cook. She's probably pretty awesome,
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but no one is down. And it's just like the amount of
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rejection that the Giants get over and over and over.
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And it's just like, I hate to call Matt Chapman like scraps,
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but he kind of is. When you're talking about like
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the names they've tried to go after and failed at, he's kind
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of the scraps. Well, I mean, yeah, with with
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every year that passes that I guess that would be be more of
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an accurate statement because like we said this, he's going to
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be 37 when this deal's over. So like what I mean, does he
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make it to the end of that contract with the Giants?
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Probably not, but. I don't know.
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I don't know, it just doesn't it doesn't excite me.
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Like I said, I love me some Matt Chapman defense, but it it's.
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It's just it was strangely timed too, because like, I'm going to
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go ahead and assume Blake Snell's kind of ease out.
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Like I think he's going to opt out and hit the market again.
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So like, if you're trying to throw your your hat in the ring
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again for him, it seemed like weird timing to just commit $25
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million a year of your salary cap to to a name like that.
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When there's possibilities out there in the offseason, there's
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other names out there that you can go hunt down.
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I don't hate what they did this year.
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It's just strange timing and overpay.
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That's my summary. Speaking of strange, the whole
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Kyle Tucker thing. Where thought he had like a a
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contusion on his shin. Turned out to be like a small
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fracture. Nobody really knew but he's
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back. How did it happen or when did it
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happen? How does like how does some like
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how do you not how do you First of all, contusion to me is like
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the biggest. Don't say it's.
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Just the strange description of an injury in sports because it
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feels like it's so vague and unspecified.
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No, a contusion to me is like that Winnie the Pooh meme where
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he's sitting in the chair and he is like the different levels of
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Winnie the Pooh and the the top one is just hit like basic
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Winnie the Pooh. And then the bottom 1 is like
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fancy with a monocle Winnie the Pooh.
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It's like the top, the top level, the top tier to that
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meme. Just regular Winnie the Pooh,
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you've got bruise and then fancy Winnie the Pooh, you've got
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contusion. It's like what?
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Just say he got like, he just got beat up a little bit like.
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Yeah. I don't know but.
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She's got a little Raspberry. But it turns out, turns out it
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was a small fracture. But he is back.
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He made his return Friday for the series with the D backs.
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This is obviously a huge a huge get.
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And when I say get, they obviously didn't have to do
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anything to acquire him and just had to wait it out.
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I think it was over what, three months they've been out.
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They've been out without Tucker and it just sucks too because.
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Let's remind everybody was like in the MVP conversation.
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I was, yeah, just about to say, yeah, he was at the time of of
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that injury being put on the shelf.
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He was he was in that conversation.
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So yeah, this will be huge for a team that we say it every time
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this this return to might was inevitable.
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And the fact that you're getting what was an early candidate for
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the 2024 ALMVP at this, you're getting him back in, in the
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month of September to give him enough time to get ramped up for
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October, that's a dangerous addition for the Astros.
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So I mean, good luck to the rest of the Ali guess at this point.
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Yeah. Do we all right, serious
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question. Who?
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I mean, let's, let's think about this.
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Who? Who are we legitimately giving
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respect to in terms of their chances against the Astros in
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securing the Pennant? Cleveland, that's like the only
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one that I feel I feel more confident in Cleveland than I do
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the Yankees, the Orioles. I think the Royals can be
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somewhat talked about there, but like overall, like, I don't
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know, dude, like this is coming from who Like I, I can see
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through the BS and, and I can watch that team every day and,
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and point out all the flaws that they have.
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I think the Orioles, I think Orioles fans can say the same
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things. There's issues there.
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But like, but I guess my question is, are we putting
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other team? Like are we just defaulting to
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the Guardians or if you want to fill fill in that, that blank
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with the Orioles, are we just putting them in that
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conversation? Because that's the question.
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Like we, you kind of just have to provide an answer like, oh,
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who's good? Who's going to give the the
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Astros the best run for the money?
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Or do we think they legitimately could?
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Because the way I see it right now is I just, it's, it's the
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same thing year after year where it's like you've got, it's the,
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it's the Moneyball meme. You've got the Astros, 50 feet
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of crap and then the rest of the American League.
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And I, I don't see how that's any different this year with the
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way that they've been playing with the personnel that they
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have. I just don't know if, if which
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of these are legitimately giving the Stroves a run for the money.
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I just don't. I'm so sick of it.
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I think. I mean, there's teams like the
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Yankees and the Orioles when hot, when going well can, but
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you just don't know. It's like a flip of a coin of
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what you're going to get in certain aspects, right?
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Like it's a flip of the coin of the defence and the pitching
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that you're going to get from the Yankees.
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It's a flip of the coin of offense randomly shutting down
25:42
for the Orioles and they're pitching the Astros.
25:47
Just what they've done. I mean, if you take out the
25:50
month of April, they've dominated.
25:54
They've dominated. And it's just like it's the
25:56
norm. It's so I'm so sick of it.
26:02
I'm so sick of it. No, I mean, it's, I think
26:04
they're, I think they're very much in the ALCS at least.
26:09
And that's what I'm saying you like, you make a valid point
26:11
when ha Yankees team teams like that, the Yankees, the Orioles,
26:15
they can, they can certainly serve as a threat.
26:20
But to your point, that's a flip of the coin across the field in
26:24
that other dugout, in that other clubhouse, the Astros, they're
26:28
not as much of A flip, a flip of a coin, if at all.
26:31
Yeah, I hate it. Sick of it.
26:35
I don't. I don't know, man.
26:37
Like what year? Is it going to be when we're
26:39
when we're not talking about the Astros like this?
26:42
Because it's every single season I.
26:45
Don't know. I don't know.
26:47
I mean, you got you got Verlander that's close to done.
26:55
You got Bregman who's potentially leaving.
26:58
You know what I mean? They're.
27:00
Not they're talking about not even giving Verland like the the
27:03
I'm seeing the I shouldn't say they I'm not saying the Astros
27:06
are discussing this. Maybe they are.
27:08
But I've seen the question floated around like should the
27:10
Astros give Justin Verlander post season starts?
27:13
And it's like the fact that we can even have that conversation
27:16
and, and still consider them like fine or a shoe into the LCS
27:20
shows you the state of the team and where they're at right now
27:22
and the way they're playing and have been playing all year.
27:26
It's insane. They just continue to bring guys
27:29
in, dude, continue to just fill gaps, fill guys in and it's like
27:34
over and over and over, productive over and over.
27:41
And then they just add a star and Josh Hader's normal Josh
27:46
Hader. I did watch.
27:50
I know you're not a huge fan of him, but the Trevor May does
27:55
stuff on on TikTok where he does like breakdowns and stuff.
28:00
And he talked about how like haters grip gets like different
28:06
life out of his pitch that I believe it was a sinker.
28:11
Was it maybe maybe just A2 seam? I don't remember what it was,
28:14
but what he the way he throws it just comes out at a different
28:18
angle and it doesn't necessarily do what everyone else's does at
28:23
that same pitch. And it's just like when you
28:26
watch it, you're like, oh, it's just an embarrassment of riches
28:30
in Houston. And like you said, like they're
28:32
doing all of this without Kyle Tucker, you know, throw him back
28:37
into the line up. You give him two weeks to get
28:39
right and then the post season is going to be the typical post
28:43
season that they always have. And it's just like you have guys
28:46
are merging on the scene like Rhino Blanco.
28:48
They're just like, OK, like you're just you're another stud
28:54
to the rotation. It's so it's just a really like
29:01
well run organization in so many different aspects and it makes
29:08
me annoyed and jealous. Speaking of a rotation, Speaking
29:14
of a well run organization, the Dodgers are sets to get
29:19
Yoshinobu Yamamoto back on Tuesday.
29:21
He is poised to make a start against the Cubs, has been out
29:28
since June 16th, has made two rehab starts at the AAA level
29:35
and is is set for Tuesday. Tuesday Oh yes, it's Imanaga.
29:46
It's going to be Imanaga and Yamamoto.
29:50
That's sick. That's on purpose.
29:52
It has to be on purpose. So we're going to have Imanaga,
29:56
Yamamoto and Otani all on the field at once.
30:00
That's dope. Tuesday.
30:03
Tuesday's a must watch game. There you go.
30:07
We may we may even just skip our weekend series to watch.
30:09
That may just be like if you watch one game this week, watch,
30:13
watch Dodgers, Cubs. That's so cool.
30:16
That's so sick. Is that really what it's
30:19
showing? Yeah, it's on TBS too.
30:25
Yeah, this is all on purpose. Yeah, for sure.
30:29
And don't forget say it Suzuki too.
30:31
Like, dude, there's going to be, what time is that in Japan?
30:40
Probably like 4 AMI, don't know they're.
30:44
Going to be locked in though, that's dope.
30:49
Love that. Yeah, but this is big for the
30:51
Dodgers. I mean, we've been talking for
30:53
the last last, well for a majority of the season, but
30:56
especially the last month talking about the state of the
30:58
rotation. And this is 11 less question
31:01
mark that you got to deal with because I think they I think I
31:03
saw they have decided to or recently just put Gavin Stone on
31:08
the IL. So that's something that you
31:11
have to deal with, something you have to take into account moving
31:15
forward as again, we approach the middle of the month here
31:18
with just a few weeks left. But if you can get Yamamoto
31:22
stretched out, if you can get him, like honestly, you, you and
31:27
I both have talked about like, OK, what it what would be what
31:30
would be best case scenario for the Dodgers?
31:31
Like do you want to, do you want to take the division and and
31:34
take the rest that your rotation needs with that buy or do you
31:40
just want to kind of roll right into it with a wild card and and
31:45
try your chances there and just hope that you can get hot like
31:48
some of these recent wild card teams in years past have been
31:51
able to to get. But the either way, just use the
31:59
rest of September to like forget, forget results with
32:03
Yamamoto. Just get them stretched out
32:04
again, get them help, get them back healthy.
32:07
And to my original point, that's one last question mark you have
32:11
to worry about once the calendar flips.
32:13
So. That's what, that's what this is
32:16
what it feels like with every like superstar coming back.
32:19
I won't say superstar, but every, every like piece to the
32:22
puzzle just slowly rejoining, right?
32:24
Like we've seen what Muncie coming back has done.
32:28
We've seen what Tommy Edmond, like finally getting an
32:31
opportunity to be in a Dodger uniform has done.
32:33
We've seen Chris Taylor being added in, right?
32:36
Like you're seeing guys just kind of slowly come back.
32:39
You're probably going to get glass now towards the end of the
32:41
month. Like all of these names being
32:43
added back in. That's what it truly means to
32:49
have wins in the Bank of what they've done all year.
32:53
So to have all of that just kind of stacked up and added in and
32:56
then you're slowly just kind of bringing guys back into the
32:59
fold. You know, you can go back a few
33:03
weeks and and go back to like Mookie coming back.
33:05
Like all of these are just another piece to the puzzle of
33:09
just like gearing up for the only thing that matters in in
33:15
LA, which is the postseason. Nothing else matters.
33:21
Speaking of the post season, a team that we will certainly see
33:24
there, the Milwaukee Brewers, being led by a guy that I don't
33:28
think we've given enough credit to.
33:29
I don't. Like anyone does.
33:32
Yeah, not just us, pretty much baseball, the entirety of
33:36
baseball. Willie Adamus, having a career
33:38
year over the weekend was able to reach the 3100 threshold and
33:45
coming into the day, believe it or not, more RBIs than Bobby
33:49
Witt, Gunner Henderson and Frankie Lindor.
33:52
I did see a nugget floating around out there that said he is
33:58
the Willie Adamas is the only primary shortstop in the
34:03
National League with a season of 30 plus homers and 100 plus RB
34:06
is in addition to, and this is I guess going back all time Willie
34:12
Adamas. Obviously this year, Trevor
34:15
Story back in 2018, Troy Tulowitzki and Ernie Banks.
34:20
Two of those had the the the benefit and fortune of being
34:23
able to play in course and the other one is a Hall of Famer.
34:27
So do with that information what you will.
34:29
Willie Thomas is having just a fantastic year and is most
34:35
definitely setting himself up for a little little bit of a
34:41
nice contract coming up. I can I be honest with you, like
34:45
I know I just got done saying like, oh, we don't give him
34:47
enough. We don't give him enough love
34:49
and I haven't given enough credit this year.
34:51
I just don't know if this is going to be one of those guys
34:54
that hands out to any sort of mega.
34:58
Well, I won't even say mega, but presumably large contract that
35:02
he's most likely going to be seeking this offseason.
35:07
Would you agree or would you disagree?
35:08
Yeah. How do we feel about Adamus as a
35:11
as a package at this stage in his career coming up on on 30?
35:18
I mean this in a compliment, like I mean this as a compliment
35:23
because you and I had discussions about it for a while
35:29
that at the time we felt like he was probably the best shortstop
35:34
in the AL. He gives me Zander Bogart's
35:36
vibes where he just quietly puts up numbers and probably doesn't
35:42
get a ton of respect as he's doing it.
35:47
And I'm and I could also imagine a similar fall off the way
35:53
Xander has in San Diego. But overall, like when you look
36:03
at, I mean just look at numbers, he's also gonna get to, he's
36:07
also going to get to 30 double s.
36:09
He's at 29 right now. He's probably going to get to 20
36:12
stolen bases at 18. It's just like it's just overall
36:19
efficient. He's playing every day.
36:21
He's played 142 games this year. Like this is a massive reason
36:29
why the Brewers are where they are.
36:31
A massive reason. He's just kind of like walking
36:37
through year over year being so solid.
36:41
I mean, he had 20 20/21. He had 25 home runs, 31 home
36:54
runs in 20/22/24 last year, 30 this year.
36:59
Like he just quietly just does his job.
37:07
I feel more MVP vibes than Frankie Landour here.
37:13
I'm not going to sit here and say he should be the MVP because
37:16
I don't think Frankie Landour should be the MVP.
37:18
But this gives me the same argument that all Mets fans want
37:23
to say. Same argument is like, oh, the
37:26
bets wouldn't be here without Frankie Landour.
37:28
I don't think the Brewers would be here without Willie Adamus.
37:33
And it just makes you wonder like I'm sure the Dodgers for
37:37
the last few years, because the Dodgers been linked to him of
37:40
like, you know, every deadline, like every offseason, like,
37:44
should they go get their shortstop?
37:45
Should they go get them? And it makes you wonder like,
37:48
are they kicking themselves for not pulling the trigger and just
37:51
giving the Brewers that they asked for?
37:53
Because this is this deserves a lot more respect.
37:57
Not to mention the 8O8O8 OPS this year.
38:03
This man's doing everything right and I don't know defensive
38:10
metrics, but I'm going to go ahead and assume it's pretty
38:13
solid there too. Is that a fair comp though?
38:18
Like the? You're I mean as as as very hot
38:21
take ish of you to say maybe possibly more MVP vibes and
38:27
Franklin Dore, because I mean, the season Franklin Dore has
38:30
been putting up is nothing to turn your nose up at by any
38:33
stretch. But I I don't think that means
38:36
you have to take anything away. In saying that.
38:39
I don't think that that means you have to take anything away
38:41
from from Willy Damas. I think each of them can or, or
38:46
we can view each of them as having great seasons
38:51
respectively in their own rights and doing.
38:55
And, and you made a good point and doing things for their
39:00
respective teams and the, and the Brewers and the Mets that
39:04
has LED their teams to the points in which they're at.
39:08
The Brewers obviously much better off right now than the
39:11
Mets are, but the Mets, you take Franklin Door out of the
39:15
equation for really any length of time this season.
39:18
We're not talking about the Mets right now.
39:21
It's as simple as that. So.
39:23
These are very similar numbers. These are very similar.
39:29
Then, well, I mean then I don't know, like I I mean does do do
39:34
we pull the the East Coast bias card then, like I what is it
39:39
about Willie Damas that's not getting the the recognition I.
39:44
Mean the OPS or. That's leading to him not
39:46
getting the recognition that he deserves.
39:48
Yeah, it's Milwaukee for sure. Like you just get lost.
39:51
You just get lost there. The Midwest, dude.
39:53
But I mean, there are certain numbers, don't get me wrong.
39:55
Like, you know, the OPS is a little bit higher on the Frankie
39:58
Lindor side at 837. Strikeouts are a little bit
40:03
lower, but the Dominus also has more RBIs.
40:09
They're around the same category and or same, you know,
40:12
neighborhood with stolen bases, double s.
40:15
They're gonna be pretty close in numbers.
40:17
It's just I think it's just the voice of Mets Twitter that's
40:23
probably giving me the overreaction status.
40:32
I think that I'm gonna attach to Frankie Lindor.
40:36
Don't get me wrong, it's a very good year.
40:37
It's just, I don't know, the same way, the same way we toss
40:43
around GOAT too much too often. I think MVP is being tossed
40:48
around too much here. This is just kind of right off
40:53
the top of the Dome here, but you could make a comp between
40:56
Franklin and or Taylor Swift great in their own rights.
41:02
They bring a lot of value to their respective industries, but
41:05
at a certain point you almost just get kind of tired of
41:07
hearing about it. Sure.
41:10
And that's no fault of their own.
41:11
Yeah. But it's like when there's a,
41:14
when there's a group of people, whether it be Swifties or Mets
41:17
fans that want you to know about the the, the individual that
41:23
they are cherishing at this moment in time.
41:29
They were going to, they're going to do what they have to do
41:32
to make sure that that message is received.
41:35
And so we are going to continue, say what you will, we are going
41:42
to continue to get the Franklin Door MVP narrative shoved down
41:46
our throat until November until the ward is handed out.
41:49
And then presumably after that as well, assuming.
41:53
The ruckus of being upset, Yeah, yeah.
41:55
If he doesn't, if he doesn't lock it in, then you're we're
41:58
going to hear about it. But that's just that's just how
42:01
they roll in Queens, I suppose. Talk about the golden age of of
42:05
shortstops, though. I mean, we could, we could work
42:10
our way around the league here there's.
42:13
That might be a fun little segment for the offseason, Do a
42:15
little deep dive into the the year of the shortstop that we've
42:18
we've witnessed this year. This is impressive.
42:21
Like going forward to, I don't think there's going to be a fall
42:24
off. There's some really, really good
42:29
shortstops and and maybe that's where, you know, Adamus kind of
42:32
gets overlooked a little bit as well.
42:35
It's just the depth of talent at the shortstop position.
42:40
But overall, both really good years.
42:43
Both between Frankie and Willy, really, really good years.
42:49
Curious to see what kind of bag Willie gets.
42:53
What I'm hearing you say is that Franklin Door is one of, if not
42:59
the worst shortstop we've ever seen and then show hey is
43:04
undeserving of the MVP and that we should give it to Willie
43:07
Damas. That's what I'm hearing you say.
43:09
I'll leave it up to interpretation to our listeners
43:11
that what they can, they can parse that out how they please.
43:15
But as you, as we mentioned off the top here, this is a Road Rd.
43:19
episode for us. I'm wearing, I'm in a, I'm in a,
43:23
I'm in a beach house right now. You're in a, a hotel room.
43:27
So I think. You're clearly.
43:30
I'm clearly hanging out with Grimace.
43:32
Grimace, I'm a bug flying around a.
43:39
Baseball bucket of baseballs, Yeah.
43:42
No, but the the plan was to just kind of get in and out here.
43:45
Didn't want to spend too much time given that we are fighting
43:54
the fight that is the shaky Wi-Fi that tends to haunt us
43:59
around this time of year when we're out of town.
44:02
But you got anything else for the folks before we get out of
44:05
here? I'm done with oven mitts.
44:10
I'm done with the with the oven mitts.
44:13
Let's let's be done. They're sticking out of the back
44:17
pocket. It looks ridiculous.
44:19
The amount of guys that have seen like overslide the bag
44:22
'cause they can't grab it with their fingers.
44:24
The I'm just, I'm done with it. Like how many got like are you
44:29
really jamming your fingers that much?
44:31
Are we scraping your hands up that much?
44:33
Like enough is enough. I'm so tired of the oven mitts.
44:39
Hate them. Outside of that, I'm good, you
44:44
know, I'm feeling. Good.
44:45
Oh, good. Good.
44:46
OK. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're good.
44:48
Glad to hear you doing. Why?
44:49
That is good. I did take a dip in the Pacific
44:51
Ocean yesterday. That must have been miserable.
44:54
No, it's actually really, really nice.
44:57
It was like apparently like, this is the hottest weekend in
45:00
California and who knows how long.
45:02
I heard it was like 114 or something this this weekend.
45:07
I think up here, yeah, 'cause we're like up in the hills a
45:09
little bit now, but the, when we were in like Newport yesterday,
45:14
it was like 95. Yeah, it's been hot here.
45:18
So you best believe went went swimming in the ocean.
45:21
A little freaky. There's a round sunset too, so
45:25
like big time. Just the shark hour, you know?
45:29
But I did it. My closing thought here as as
45:34
dinner time approaches us and sounds like the fam downstairs
45:38
getting a little more rowdy so we'll get out of here.
45:40
But my final thought is that Speaking of the heat in
45:44
California, I've been seeing how some of the some of the
45:46
California teams are giving away like water bottles.
45:50
It was either today or like in the coming days or something as
45:54
if it's like this grand gesture where it's like, hey, pick up
45:58
your voucher for a free water bottle.
46:00
It's like, are you really, like, I mean, good on you, I guess,
46:06
for, like, letting folks know that that'll be available.
46:08
But did you have to go out and make a graphic for it and post
46:12
it on social media? Like, just just tweet it out
46:15
that, hey, we're gonna have water here and you can grab one
46:16
on the way in. Don't pretend like it's this big
46:18
grand gesture that you're helping out us peasants by
46:22
giving us a free water bottle. And I did see that some of the
46:24
teams are giving away Dasani. And then some of the people in
46:26
the replies were like, I'm good, thanks.
46:28
Actually, I'll go without the water.
46:30
Yeah, I'll drink from the sprinkler outside instead.
46:33
Thanks though. That was that was my closing
46:35
thought. I just, I just thought that it
46:37
gave me a good laugh when I saw that these teams are like
46:39
creating. They're taking time from their
46:43
their creative calendars to create social media graphics
46:47
announcing that they're giving away water bottles, which is how
46:49
it was. Funny, but that's all I got.
46:51
Coming in hot today, aren't we? But I guess you'll hear from us
46:57
Wednesday, assuming the the the Internet here doesn't explode.
47:01
Yeah, we shall see. Don't go chasing curveballs in
47:04
the meantime. We love you all as always.
47:06
Looking forward to talking more baseball with you guys soon.
47:08
Until next time, stay filthy.