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OnlyFans debate on Piers Morgan gets CREEPY (fast!) · NORMAL GAYS Podcast

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I never want a woman in my state to be exploited by the online
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sex slavery that is only fans. That's why I.
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Thought it was a voluntary platform.
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It's not. There's nothing voluntary about
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a platform that exploits women and forces them to sell nude
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photos. On Internet forces them to sell
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nude photos. You don't have to sell nude
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photos on only fans. Well, hey Sophie, good to meet
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you. It's not a punishment at all.
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You creep. Hey guys, welcome to Normal
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Gaze, where we take on insanity. I'm Brad Palombo here with
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Clarkson. Lawson up guys.
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This wait. We're not.
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We're not going. To get riding, we're just
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getting into it. We're going to watch an Only
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Fans debate on Piers Morgan Uncensored.
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We've got our resident Only Fans star with us.
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Thank you. Thank you very much.
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But also you would be directly affected by this.
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If I would, it's not going to happen, but if it did, obviously
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it would affect. You it would be like what's like
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white flight for for sex workers.
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Flight. That's yes.
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Flight. Yeah, I don't know.
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We'll think about that. You guys comment what you think
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it would be called, but we would all move out of Florida.
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But that's the most obvious thing he never seems to discuss
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anyway. And I'm a sexual worker, not a
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sex. Worker, we've been over.
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There's a difference I do not get.
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It's a Republican governor traded on governor candidate.
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Oh my God, sorry. Republican gubernatorial
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candidate James Fishbach, who I. Don't even call him a
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gubernatorial candidate. He's a he's an influencer or put
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his name on the dotted line to for government.
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In the polls, so. He can be, so he can become an
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influencer. Yes sure, but he's anyway
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running for governor. He's a just pandering to the
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gripers and he's trying to become like a Nick Fuentes mini
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world celebrity. And he went on Piers Morgan, who
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of course brought on like the biggest only fans girl.
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And I think of all time for a little panel and it's absolutely
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crazy. We're just going to run the
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teaser of it and then we'll discuss a little bit and then
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we're going to actually watch some extended clips.
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So let's just watch this trailer.
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My boy Pierce knows how to do the the cinematic trailer for
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sure. Let's watch.
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You've proposed a 50% syntax on only fans creators to discourage
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what you call immoral behavior. They feel that this is a classic
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case of Stockholm syndrome. The victim, the enslaved person,
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doesn't feel that they have a real agency.
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Why don't we just bring in Sophie?
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Right, Sophie, look, with all due respect, I want what's best
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for you. You are capable of anything you
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put your mind to. And so when you're doing this
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little cute spider man dance online and you're creating this
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adult content, know that that person that you used to be still
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wants something more giving. You to be the great moral
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arbiter of what young women do with themselves legally in the
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United States. Oh my God, he pisses me off so
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much. He's.
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Going to crash out. He's going.
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To crash the out. Oh my God.
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He's so weird and he's so he also like blatantly contradicts
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himself a bunch of times in this.
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Here's my issue, this is goes bigger than just him because
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everybody hates only fans and they're like only fans has
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ruined our culture. It's like only fans didn't
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increase porn usage. No, it's just a different kind.
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Where people just decentralize the market.
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And the problem is that any time this happens, this happens with
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influencers too, and with just fame in general.
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When something becomes attainable to the general public
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or ease more easily attainable, everybody hates on it because it
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they can't have it. Like that's why everybody hates
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on their influence influencer, OK?
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I don't think everyone hates only fans just because they.
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Want to be, but I'm saying I'm saying there there is a site I'm
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giving a psychological analysis on this.
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Everybody hates their influencer friends because low key they
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realize that it's possible to be famous very easily now and to
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make money very easily. The same thing happens for only
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fans. They don't have the same amount
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of energy. I think there are legitimate
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critiques of OLD, sure. There's well, there's critiques
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of sex work. Yes, and I also think OF in
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particular, the one of the problems with it is that some
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people get the illusion or the impression that they're going to
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make a ton of money from it when in reality only a small
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percentage of graders do. And so I feel bad for the
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gullible young people who that's why even we're going to talk
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about her later. Body Blue.
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To her credit, we'll say it, we'll say in interviews, I don't
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recommend this for most young women.
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They should not do this. And because like, unless you're
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part of that top 1% or whatever, the average creator makes a
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couple 100 bucks a month and their nudes are going to be out
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there forever. It's like that's a very bad idea
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for most people. But you also, I agree with you.
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Only fans did not create pornography and in fact it it
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made it, at least for the women or the creators, probably safer
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and better in numerous ways. Because instead of illicit
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studios or underground sets or having these men control them,
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they now get to run their own business.
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They get to have distance and separation like.
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The problem now is that the Andrew Tate's of the world are
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creating their own agencies and now turning LOF into this.
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Oh yeah, I watched in the Red Pill documentary, there's one
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guy who. Who runs an agency but says
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that? He says it's terrible and
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immoral, but of course I'm a profit off of it.
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Yeah, I mean. Yeah, you get you, wouldn't you?
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You kind of respect the hustle. I do I I kind of do.
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I mean, no, not not, I don't respect the hypocrisy, but I
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respect the hustle. I think if you're going to get
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into only fans, it takes a very, very specific personality type.
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And if you have a lot of like pre-existing strong moral
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beliefs that are just subjective to you, you probably shouldn't
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do it because you're going to hate yourself.
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You're going to convince yourself that what you're doing
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is evil, that it's wrong. And if you hold those beliefs,
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that's fine. You can hold them.
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But there you have to be the type of person that can
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literally just like not care about how you're perceived and
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not care about like, and, and I don't know, you have to be able
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to craft your own morality in order to do it, I think.
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Yes, we're going to talk about the specifics of Fischbach's
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proposal. Yeah, sorry.
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And the debate that we're about to watch?
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First though, we do want to plug our membership, but also just
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subscribe. A lot of you watch the videos.
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And don't subscribe get me if you don't want me to be on only
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fans then join as a member so you.
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Probably won't stop anyway, but you could.
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If that will make you more likely to become a channel
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member, then tell yourself. That Yeah, well, I don't.
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You just ruined it. Everybody was going to give us
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money because they want, OK? They want to see.
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They want to. They want to see me be.
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Like if we get to how about this, if we get to 2000 members,
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Clarkson will delete his OFI promise.
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Well, then you have to give me a higher percentage.
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All right, how about you just all become members and we'll
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figure the details out later. We should actually come up with
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a member. Everybody still thinks I'm
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getting like 20% of this. No, we renegotiated now that we
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have an editor, by the way. Anyways, I think it's hilarious.
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We should actually come up with like a members goal where it's
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like Clarkson will close his legs.
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It's like. My legs have never been open on
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my only. Hands, I know, but you get what
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I'm saying. It's like, that'd be a funny bit
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if. I mean.
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Clarkson delete OF challenge. We would probably need like 4000
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members. Oh my God.
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Do you know basement yard has literally like 60,000 paying
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members on their Patreon? What?
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Yes, they must be making stupid. Money so.
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Much that's crazy. That's that needs to be.
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Odd, I know, but we have to. We have to stop talking about
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trans fats. I don't I think we need to talk
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about more trans. Fats.
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I don't think so. Anyway, oh so because this has.
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Nothing to do with with those subjects, we're branching out.
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They might come up. No, they don't.
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Actually they don't, but. Fish back, Fish back, Fish back.
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Oh yes, we're going to watch the full debate, but do become a
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member. We're going to do a funny video
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where we're going to play the game that all the absolutely
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cooked Gen. alphas are playing five nights at Epstein's.
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It's really bad. You can get.
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Don't tell them you have to watch, you have to join.
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Just to watch part of the game is running away from Stephen
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Hawking. So.
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Well, I don't know. Maybe rolling away, I don't
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know. I am going to get you.
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Oh my God. You look very good today.
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That's incredibly offensive. I don't give a I'm a Slytherin
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all. Right, let's watch.
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You've proposed a 50% syntax on only fans creators to discourage
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discourage what you call immoral behaviour.
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So just explain that. Well, there was a time not too
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long ago in the United States of America where young girls
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aspired to be cooks and lawyers and reporters and doctors.
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And nowadays they are resigned to the fact that if they have an
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unexpected expense or they need to cover their rent or
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groceries. Can we just pause on this idea
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that all girls today just grow up and want to be OF models and
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that's their only? I don't know.
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I've never met one young girl who aspires to be an OF model,
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not one. I'm sure you could find a few
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some women who feel like they they really need cash and they
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don't know what else to do and that they but it's like most
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women are still not. Go outside.
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This is like the most chronically online tape.
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It really is like I know. This is like seeing one of the
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girls getting misgendered at it, like, I don't know, they them
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and thinking that our generation just wants to be called babes.
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It's like that was like that was like one person on TikTok that
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you saw. It's not that serious.
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I I think I listen. I have in laws.
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I have cousins I know young some young women around that age
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19/20/21. I I don't know any of them had
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that had even considered ever once doing that or ever would
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and like they still want to become teachers or lawyers and
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other stuff. My sister's literally in law
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school right now. I.
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Mean I've never met a woman who really wants to be a cook.
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I feel like that's fairly rare. Also it's hilarious that was his
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go to example of. Course it's the first one.
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He's like women just should. We just want to inspire.
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Me in the kitchen. Again, I'm not here saying that
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I think OF is like a pure and amazing business, but I also
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don't believe that grown ass adults who choose this are being
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exploited by OF executives. Like you said.
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Are you being exploited? No, I am.
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Anything you're exploiting? So bad.
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I am so much happier now that I'm not working a nine to five
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and I really just don't give it like it.
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It has made my life significantly better and I'm a
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more pleasant person to be around so.
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All right, let's keep going here.
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I'm not a young girl. Platform and so I respect women.
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I respect them enough to think that they are capable of
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anything they put their minds to.
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And I never want a woman in my state to be exploited by the
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online sex slavery that is only fans.
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But that's why it's governor. I thought it was a voluntary
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platform. It's not.
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There's nothing voluntary about a platform that exploits women
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and forces them to sell nude photos on.
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Internet when you say? What?
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Forces them to sell nude photos. You don't have to sell nude
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photos on only fans. You don't even have to post sexy
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pictures on only. Fans did I just miss the part
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where like these 22 year old girls have a gun to their head
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making them sign up and do it's like he you go off.
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I mean, I just think it's all stupid.
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He's stupid, but he knows what he's doing.
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He's literally everything he's doing is he is saying what in
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cell men who are chronically online and cannot get laid are
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thinking because he wants to cater to the Nick Fuentes crowd.
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He wants to get in with that group and the main audience.
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There are men who can't get laid.
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So then they become resentful towards women and then they hate
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any form of any form of female sexuality because that reminds
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them that that they can't get their wet.
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Oh, that was a expressive phrase, but.
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Sorry, it's true. These men, the Inseld men, are
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very dangerous and that history proves that.
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OK, allegedly. No, I'm serious.
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But allegedly. I watched a TikTok on it.
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Yeah, well, we'll keep the alleged attached there.
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But regardless, I. Think who's going to sue U.S.
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history. Why are you saying allegedly?
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No, I said in cell men are very. Oh, I thought you said his
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history proves that. Oh no, I said history proves.
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Oh, I thought you said this story proves.
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I'm saying history proves that when men are not getting.
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I see, I see, I see. I thought you were talking
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specifically about James Fishback because there are
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allegations that we're not going to get into because I, I haven't
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felt like that. We haven't thoroughly looked.
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Do you see the video where some black dude confronts him on
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these allegations that he did inappropriate things and he
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tells the guy that you should be lame?
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Yeah, see this is. We could.
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That's insane. He wants women to be cooks, and
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he wants to. Lynch black people who insult.
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Him who? Yeah, Offend him.
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Like that's crazy, dude. It's an act, but isn't a scary.
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Act like this isn't something that's like camp.
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This is crazy. It's it's insane.
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But back to this point, I'm I'm there's just this vision of you
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either think that human adults have agency and absent some
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actual observable provable coercion, are not being coerced.
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So like this Sophie Rain girl, she has all the money in the
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world now that is going to come on the show.
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She's got millions of dollars. She there's literally nothing
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stopping her from choosing to stop OF tomorrow if she wanted
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to and she could. Yet he's arguing she's literally
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a slave somehow. It makes no sense.
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He's also arguing that she should do other things that are
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more impactful for the world. I think that his argument rests
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on like you should provide essentially women should provide
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more value. I believe in you, but like a lot
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of these women do OF and then pursue what they truly want to
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pursue, but they wouldn't have been able to do that without the
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funds from OF. So there's actually a case to be
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made that by transiently doing OF, you can actually end up
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providing more value to society, like say, if you're using the
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money to go to college. Or to donate to charity.
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Or to donate to charity or, or if you just want to follow a
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passion of yours because that's what you want to do.
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It's opened up a lot of lanes for people, but nobody has this
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conversation because it's just clouded so much and like
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degeneracy that like, nobody can actually look at this
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rationally. Yeah.
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Let's you're all running. Just to be clear about what Only
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Fans is, my correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding
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about Only Fans is it's voluntary.
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No one's forcing you to do it, people.
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Go on only. Fans create an account.
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He knows he's lying. Charge money for whatever they
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want to put on their account. I'm not sure where the
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exploitation element as you're articulating it is.
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Well, this is often the defense of sex trafficking, that a 15
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year old girl is illegal. Sex trafficking is illegal.
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Oh my God. This is often the defense of sex
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trafficking. This is the part where anyone
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defends sex trafficking a 15 year old girl.
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What? I'm being sex trafficked.
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He actually just said because Piers's argument is no one's
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forcing them to do it. They're not being coerced.
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They're choosing it What's is voluntary.
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And he's like, that's what people say about 15 year olds
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being sex trafficked. No, they don't.
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What the That's the whole point. Of that check is hard drive.
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That is not consensual, it is not voluntary.
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That's why it's sex trafficking. It's coerced and they're a minor
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and can't consent. You know what I think what the
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anti only fans crowd when it comes down to is they, they
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don't believe. They know that you have agency
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to make your own decision to do it, but they fully believe that
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something has corrupted your agency and that is what is
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exploiting you. Like, a lot of Christians will
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say that a demon is exploiting you if you do, if you engage in
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that. So really what their arguments
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come down to is not a logical reason.
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It's not something that can be debated.
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It's just I feel strongly morally that you are corrupted
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and what you're doing is. Bad for yourself.
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I feel entitled to control you and make your life choices for
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you through the force of the. Government if you don't like
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only fans or or if you don't want people to do only fans.
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Specifically, if you're a Christian, I think your best
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ministry in the subject is to befriend only fans, creators and
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show them why their life could be better.
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Isn't that what? Jesus did.
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I have no problem with what you just described.
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If you think it's wrong, if you think people should stop doing
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it, persuade them. That's what it means to live in
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a free society. But you could even boycott the
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company though, I guess what else?
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Like, you know what I'm saying? You can lead.
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They're not going to boycott it because they're buying it.
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They're bouncing those titties. That's a different story.
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We're going to get to once you start because he doesn't just
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want to tax. He also says he wants to in it,
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but then later says actually he makes no sense.
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He's totally not consistent. We'll get to that.
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But when you want to control others and deprive them of their
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freedom and ability to make choices, that's when I have a
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problem with your beliefs. I don't have a problem with you
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believing it's wrong. It's bad people shouldn't do it
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advocating for your beliefs. I have a problem with this.
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And there's in a level of we haven't even got to this
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economic illiteracy that if you put a, if you put a 50% tax on
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only fans creators in Florida as as the governor of Florida,
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which James Fishback will never, ever be, all that would happen
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is that they would literally just relocate their residence to
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another state and then not ever. You just lose tax revenue and
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business. Like literally that's all that
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would happen. There's not a single high dollar
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earning only fans creator who would choose to stay in the
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state of Florida and pay a 50% tax rather than just move
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anywhere else and even live somewhere else and then spend
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half the year in Florida -1 day. It's like they could do that.
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It's just you don't even. It doesn't make any economics.
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It's just. It's actually just.
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You're actually what The funny thing is, is that if the
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government put a 50% tax on specifically Only Fans earnings
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and his his problem is that Only Fans is exploiting these girls.
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The government would then engage in the exploitation that he is
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claiming Only Fans is doing by stealing their revenue.
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Well, in fairness to him, I think he would view it as a way
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to essentially shut down. But that's not what it does.
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It's what it what it actually does is it's the government
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taking funds. So even if these Only Fans girls
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stayed and did it, they wouldn't shut down, they would just have
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to pay the government a fee to do it.
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So you want the government to take the sex money that you're
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claiming? He claims that they're going to
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give it to teachers instead, but also what money?
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Because it's going to raise $0.00 in revenue or near like
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very little revenue because people will just move out and
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it's also, you're never going to be also.
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You're a Republican. I thought that we believed it in
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a state with no taxes, with no state tax except for the tax on
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whores. I will say this, I do think ho
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tax is a funny phrase, but also what oh, it's actually he knows
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this that he this proposal will never happen.
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He's never going to become governor and that even if he did
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it would this wouldn't happen and that it would raise no
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revenue we're. Literally into this video.
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I know we're cooked. It's literally Christian
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nationalist virtue signaling this whole proposal.
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He's building a, he's building a following to launch a show and
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he loses. Yeah, and whatever and.
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I believe that only fans should be illegal as well.
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Or are they breaking? Well, there's nothing.
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Well, I, I would change the law. I would change the law.
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That's how we do things, I mean. Pierce is missing the point
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there. He wants to make it illegal so
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saying what law are they breaking isn't a good rebuttal
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because the point is he wants to make a new law.
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The the real question is like. Well, Pierce tends to take like
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an I don't have a moral stance position on a lot of things.
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I. Don't know he ended up going
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after him in this. One.
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Did he? Yeah.
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I mean, slavery wasn't illegal and then we said this wrong.
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Who's enslaving people? Changed the law.
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I'm really curious. I'm slaving.
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Again, I don't. Maybe you consumed a lot more
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Only Fans content than me and you see.
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I've never been on, only slave. Good job, dear.
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Ate him up a little bit there. That is funny.
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And I will just say I'm sorry. Comparing it to slavery, it's
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freaking ridiculous. Like let's just remain.
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You literally just told a black man that he should be late.
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So why? Since when do you have some
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moral issue with slavery? Dude Like Oh my God he's just
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saying things. He's literally just saying that
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he knows he's going to get clipped.
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He really? Is a total fraud he's done a
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complete 180 on almost all these major issues he he's now like an
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anti Israel griper and pretty openly flirts with anti-Semitism
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and yet you go back a year or two he was talking about how
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amazing Israel is doing photo OPS with Barry Weiss this guy is
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a sociopathic liar and. As most people in politics.
19:59
But like to a media to a shocking degree, though, like to
20:03
a unusual. I wouldn't find that to be
20:05
shocking, no. After meeting enough people in
20:08
the industry, I think they're all just like.
20:09
That I've but I've rarely seen people go as far with it as him.
20:14
I don't think he realizes that his beliefs, these extreme
20:18
beliefs, will go out of style. Very quickly.
20:22
They're also not even really in style, except on.
20:25
Except on the Internet, like the Internet is in a very weird,
20:28
it's been in this very weird maturing phase and it's like
20:31
going back and forth into like these different dark areas.
20:35
But it's going to reach a point where like it settles and it's
20:39
just going to be another piece of tech that we have learned to
20:41
manage socially. And he's going to have all of
20:44
these clips. Did you see Taylor Lorenz poster
20:47
screen time as what was it, 17 hours a day?
20:50
Our business speaking, mine's very high, but.
20:52
It's not that high, Jesus. Everything else, but I don't,
20:55
I'm not aware that that is what Only Fans is.
20:58
It has a lot of adult content, but legal adult content which is
21:02
monitored according to the law and that people who have
21:05
accounts there do so voluntarily.
21:06
They open accounts and they charge money.
21:08
We have somebody I'm going to bring in a moment, Sophie Raine,
21:11
who has made $43 million from her account on Only Fans.
21:17
I don't think she's been enslaved or exploited.
21:19
I think she's perfectly happy and enjoys what she does.
21:22
I mean, I'll talk to you in a moment, but why?
21:24
Why do you feel she's a slave? So I feel that this is a classic
21:29
case of Stockholm syndrome, where the individual, the
21:31
victim, the enslaved person doesn't feel that they have a
21:34
real agency. This goes back to sociology 101
21:37
peers that someone is induced to believing they have choice, they
21:40
have agency, when in fact they can't make a decision for
21:42
themselves. I want young girls in my state
21:44
to aspire to be astronauts, doctors, nurses, small business
21:48
owners. I believe a radical thing that
21:50
women can do anything. They put their minds to peers
21:52
and I don't want them. So do you think Mark, just to be
21:54
clear, do you think modeling is, is modeling to you immoral?
21:57
Modeling. That's a little lame argument
21:59
that Pierce goes down a little bit, but I'm sorry, he's still
22:02
saying she's enslaved and is so hijacked she can't even make her
22:07
own choices. Like who are you to decide that
22:09
absent any actual evidence? I just explained it.
22:13
I did 2 minutes ago. I I explained this.
22:15
I knew it would come down to this.
22:16
It's all about. He doesn't think that you are.
22:19
I've seen this already, but. Yeah, corrupted.
22:21
Therefore, your decisions aren't actually your decisions unless
22:25
they align with mine. And then you know.
22:27
What it's actually a way of it's like it's cognitive dissonance
22:30
because you see people who fundamentally disagree with your
22:32
moral worldview. And rather than coming to terms
22:35
with the fact that people's beliefs are subjective, you have
22:38
to convince yourself that their beliefs are wrong in some type
22:41
of way and they are corrupted and they don't have agents see
22:44
over their beliefs. And that's the only way you can
22:46
coexist with the person. But you would never be OK with
22:49
us deciding that your decisions you make about your life are
22:53
actually corrupted and so we should make them for you.
22:56
About what church you can go to, about whether you can get
22:59
married or divorced, About how many kids you can have, About
23:01
what you can do for work. It's like either you want a
23:04
people to make their own choices absent actual evidence of like
23:09
this person is. Logical evidence.
23:11
You know, fully mentally unfit, right?
23:15
Which there should be a very high bar for.
23:17
Or this person is clearly being coerced and there's evidence of
23:20
this other than that people get to make their own decisions.
23:24
And if you don't get to control others like this, And unless you
23:27
want that same energy applied to your own life.
23:29
And I know I don't. Well, they don't care because
23:32
they just, he doesn't care. He's taking advantage of the
23:36
free country that we live in by pretending to be a tyrant just
23:38
so we can get social media clout.
23:40
I think naked modeling, however you want to euphemize it, naked
23:44
modeling is immoral. I mean, Cindy Crawford was one
23:47
of the greatest iconic supermodels of all time.
23:49
She's done naked modeling, so is she a Sinner?
23:51
Is she immoral? Should she be paying 50% back of
23:54
her income? Well, in that particular act of
23:57
modeling, yes, and modeling nude.
23:59
But you and I both know that Cindy Crawford was not known for
24:01
her nude modeling. She was predominantly known for
24:04
modeling for. So should we retrospectively go
24:06
back to every supermodel who's ever posed nude and get 50% back
24:10
of their income from those pictures?
24:13
As much as I'd love to do that, that's not legally possible.
24:15
What I'm going to do is I'm going to raise an only fan.
24:17
Of women. 'S thinking by the law.
24:19
I don't have AI, don't I? By the way, Piers, you keep
24:21
talking about women. There are thousands of men on
24:23
Only Fans and this is going to apply just as equally to them.
24:27
I mean, that's true. And do you feel at least he's
24:29
seen? I know I feel like he's called
24:31
me out and I feel a part of the conversation.
24:34
I I was feeling very excluded. But I mean, that is a fairpoint.
24:37
And I think the whole thing about modeling and going back a
24:40
better argument is like, you realize, First off, like all of
24:43
everything we've said, but also just like I would love to,
24:45
what's your response to the fact that literally no one is going
24:48
to pay this tax and they would just relocate like you?
24:51
Do you actually want to solve the problem or do you just want
24:53
to compare it for online classes?
24:54
Yeah, correct. Women, that's a very good point.
24:57
Even though it's not a problem. Producing or consuming this
24:59
content. And by the way, Pierce, what you
25:01
haven't brought up is that as governor, I would also levy a
25:03
consumption tax. I'm not going to spare the men
25:07
in this equation as well. If you're a young man and you're
25:09
watching pornography, put down the phone, go to church, pray
25:13
and find a real God fearing woman.
25:15
Society is not going to be dictated by men and women
25:19
commodifying and using one another in these ephemeral
25:22
social relationships. No, it's not transactional sex.
25:25
It is a romantic experience that is reserved for a man and a
25:29
woman in the sanctity of marriage.
25:31
OK, so now society is also going to stop unmarried men and women
25:34
from. Sex.
25:36
And gays and lesbians we'll have, we'll have social police
25:39
that can we can have a surveillance.
25:41
State that can surveillance. That's why I think for immoral
25:43
behavior in the eyes of James Fishbach.
25:45
And then we can advertise it to the grouper, say, hey, sign up
25:48
here, Uncle Sam needs you. Stop these gays from 28.
25:53
And then they'll all be in South Beach.
25:55
And during Pride, actually, you know what?
25:58
They were already probably were there.
25:59
No, I think I might support this because some of y'all bitches
26:02
are acting crazy, yeah. Actually, so you need a little
26:05
bit of morality I. Think that we should I yeah, I
26:07
didn't mean to do that. I was just tapping.
26:09
I didn't mean to look like a chronically online tik toker.
26:12
I think that we should consider some of this.
26:16
You know what I think we should have?
26:17
A gay Gestapo. Gestapo.
26:20
Gestapo Gestapo soup. I don't know.
26:24
Gestapo. Gestapo is the secret police,
26:26
yeah. Well, gazpacho soup.
26:29
Yes, that that would be a soup. Yes, I think we should have a
26:32
gay version of that. What is Gestapo?
26:34
Gestapo. What is that German.
26:36
Yeah. Nazi.
26:37
OK, I know, I know. I had it right.
26:39
Well, why don't we just bring in Sophie, right?
26:41
Just hang on there, Jason, because it can be quite
26:42
interesting to have you guys. Just love how messy.
26:44
Appears Sophie. Welcome to Uncensored.
26:46
I don't know how he does this. You have 4.5 million, well,
26:50
there are 4.5 million only fans creators.
26:53
You are, I think, the highest earner.
26:56
It's claimed that you've made $43 million.
27:00
You've got eight and a half million Instagram followers,
27:02
14,000,000 on TikTok. So you're a massive social media
27:05
phenomenon. For those who are not familiar
27:07
with your work, how would you describe it?
27:11
Well, I post on many platforms, I post content on Instagram, I
27:14
post content on TikTok and all the above.
27:17
And I also post content on only fans.
27:19
And honestly, I do a little bit of everything.
27:20
I do a little dancing, TikTok videos, I'll post Instagram
27:24
photos and then obviously my only fans content and.
27:28
Would you describe it as pornographic or what would you
27:30
describe it as? I mean, I wouldn't describe it
27:33
as pornographic, but it's definitely adult content for
27:35
sure. Oh.
27:36
Sexual work. Not, not, not.
27:38
She's not sex work. Pick your pronoun, I guess, but
27:41
it's pornography all right? No, because I don't think she
27:44
actually fully shows things. I think she's one of those
27:48
creators that doesn't actually do it.
27:49
Really. Yeah, I've heard that she
27:52
doesn't fully. Yet she's like earns that much.
27:55
That's a she's make. More money not showing it.
27:58
Interesting. Yeah, I don't claim to know.
28:01
And unlike James Fishback, I've never viewed any of her content.
28:04
So I I low key that's a joke. But I would bet money he's
28:07
watched. So what do you feel about James
28:09
Fishback in his plan to tax you 50% as a sin tax for being a
28:13
Sinner? I mean, I'm going to be honest,
28:16
it's ridiculous. It's very ridiculous.
28:18
Florida already has no income state tax.
28:20
It doesn't exist. So it just, it seems very
28:23
selective and it seems like it's a punishment.
28:26
I mean, yeah. Yeah, it is.
28:27
Oh, she can't debate. The problem is that the problem?
28:29
Is that she's kind of proven his point that.
28:32
Like, like she's really. You're not.
28:33
Sending the cream of the crop, you know.
28:35
I will say over the course of this full debate, she really
28:38
struggles with like understanding hypotheticals and
28:42
arguments. This is.
28:43
Not everybody knows how to debate.
28:45
It's not her skill set at all so it would have been.
28:48
I get why Pierce wire in just for the cinema of it, but like
28:52
it would have been more interesting to hear like an
28:54
actual debater go against James Fischbach's ideas.
28:57
Yeah. I mean, even somebody like me or
29:00
just like a political commentator who disappeared.
29:01
I should have done it. You would know unironically.
29:05
That would have been. Good because you would have the
29:07
intersection of both actually that you know how to debate and
29:10
you're a political commentator and you do OF so.
29:13
But her, I almost feel bad for her.
29:15
It's not really a fair fight because Fishback, as much as he
29:19
is like a absolutely soulless sociopath, he also is smart and
29:24
is that he literally did debate society and he like knows how to
29:27
debate rhetoric and tools. And so he definitely gets the
29:30
better of her in some of their verbal exchanges.
29:33
This is a really long video. I know, but you don't.
29:35
Have to cut it short. No, we're experimenting with
29:37
long form content. It's fine.
29:39
Yeah, but long form is supposed to be like different subjects.
29:41
No, I think people are really interested in OF.
29:44
You think so And mine are. You there, James?
29:46
Yeah, you are. I mean, Sophie says that she
29:49
feels like this is a punishment. Why are you punishing her?
29:52
Well, hey Sophie, good to meet you.
29:54
It's not a punishment at all. You cream.
29:58
He's trying to raise her up. Oh my God.
30:01
Thanks. Hey, nice to meet you.
30:04
I want what's best for you. Just let me.
30:06
Let me control your life. Put your only pants down.
30:09
Give me your millions of dollars and let me tell you what to do.
30:12
Because I'm a man, I think. Sophie recognizes that our state
30:18
was better off when young women aspire to be teachers, small
30:21
business owners, doctors and lawyers as opposed to creating
30:24
adult content. I can respect Sophie Raine as an
30:27
individual and still respectfully call out that I
30:29
don't want thousands of young women who are in high school
30:31
today to feel like the only way they can make a living when they
30:34
graduate is selling adult content, video, photos of
30:36
themselves on the Internet. This is like one of those
30:38
Internet talking points. The idea that there is a single
30:42
18 year old woman who feels the what he said, the only way she
30:48
can make a living in this world today is doing only fans is what
30:52
you would call a straw man. It's also like.
30:55
It's a made. Up as a politician, if you see
30:58
that you are population is struggling so much that they if
31:02
they actually had this sentiment, I don't think adding
31:05
a tax economically is going to fix that problem.
31:07
I think maybe you should. The lack of.
31:09
Opportunity, other economic problems that are causing that
31:12
lack of opportunity rather than adding a tax attacks.
31:14
It's sounding very Libby. That's well, that's the thing
31:18
about the far right great versus they're I mean they're they have
31:21
a lot in common with like socialist left there, yes.
31:24
So Sophie, look, with all due respect, I know you're from
31:26
Florida. I'm from Florida.
31:27
We both love our state. I want what's best for you and I
31:30
want what's best for every single woman in our state.
31:32
And that's not to be objectified and exploited by the Only Fans
31:35
owners. Sophie, what's your response to
31:37
that? I feel like as adults, we are
31:40
all able to legally make our own decisions.
31:42
And I think that we should also educate a lot more on all of
31:46
these opportunities that you're Speaking of because I just don't
31:49
think that we should be singling out any, any individual for what
31:52
they choose to do. I mean.
31:55
See, like that's like the common end.
31:57
Well, I I want to single out drug dealers, Sophie.
31:59
I want to single out people who are committing crimes in our
32:02
society. And so as governor, my
32:04
responsibility is very simple. I want to make sure that there
32:06
is a path. See, this is an example of how
32:08
she's just not a good debater. Like she made the statement.
32:11
I just don't think we should single out people for the things
32:14
they choose to do. Well, like, no, obviously we
32:16
should single out some people for the things they choose to
32:19
do, like drug dealers like. And obviously she doesn't mean
32:22
drug dealers and this like, but she doesn't know how to
32:25
articulate. Her.
32:26
No. And then the problem, the
32:27
problem is what she means is people who are making their own
32:30
choices and engaging in voluntary interactions with
32:33
others with no victims. Yeah, like, but that.
32:37
But then just like they make the blanket statement that that
32:40
becomes easy to dunk on. Yeah.
32:42
Because you don't understand debate.
32:44
I don't know, it's sad. I'm not gonna be one of those
32:46
Republicans not committing any crime.
32:48
Women. And it seems to me that your
32:49
initial assertions before we spoke to Sophie that she was,
32:53
you know, that people like her on Only fans are enslaved.
32:56
They're being exploited. And then you do an analogy he
32:59
just now to to drugs and whatever, which are illegal.
33:01
Obviously nothing she's doing is illegal.
33:03
It seems to be entirely of her own free will.
33:06
She's very happy doing it. She's very popular doing it, you
33:09
know, under the 1st Amendment. Have you asked her that she's
33:12
happy? Under the 1st Amendment of the
33:14
US Constitution, what what business is it of yours to stick
33:16
your oar in? And what, 50% of her cash?
33:19
No, Piers, did you ask her if she was happy because she posted
33:23
a video 2 weeks ago on International Women's Day where
33:27
she was interviewing her former self who looked to be
33:29
disappointed, who aspired to be quite literally, in Sophie
33:32
Raine's own words, an astronaut? Sophie, you are smart.
33:35
I know you, I know your family. You are capable of anything you
33:39
put your mind. Does he know her?
33:41
Does he know her family? Because if not, that's weird
33:44
because he said nice to meet you earlier.
33:48
He is so creepy. He's very weird.
33:51
Because didn't did he not say nice?
33:53
To meet you, most themselves are very weird.
33:55
I'm not hallucinating that, right?
33:56
He said nice to meet you and now he's saying I know you.
34:00
How many hours of her content have you watched, James?
34:02
Yeah, he sounds like a super fan.
34:04
Yeah, mine too. And so when you're doing this
34:07
little cute spider man dance online, he finds that you're
34:09
creating this adult content. Know that that person that you
34:12
used to be still wants something more out of you.
34:15
And I, as the governor of the state, want every single woman
34:18
in Florida to achieve their maximum potential.
34:21
I just love how he pretends he's a real governor candidate.
34:23
I mean, I think just realistically speaking, I'm very
34:27
happy with where I am. And I promise I would never, I
34:30
would have never got to where I am without the platform.
34:32
Like I've built businesses outside of this.
34:35
I am constantly, you know, chasing new dreams and
34:38
everything. Like I'm very happy with where I
34:40
am. Sophie, you come from a devout
34:42
Christian family. I understand you grew up by your
34:45
end of mission, pretty poor. The family didn't have much
34:48
money. You relied on food, food stamps.
34:49
As a child, you were working as a waitress.
34:52
You then went on only fans. You said you got fired from your
34:54
restaurant job and your boss discovered the account and so
34:56
on. And now, obviously, you've
34:58
become incredibly successful and rich doing this.
35:01
What do you what do your family make of your transition into
35:05
this world? They're actually very supportive
35:08
of me. Definitely.
35:09
At first they didn't really understand it and they were
35:11
cautious of it, but I sat them down and I talked them through
35:14
everything. I'm being safe.
35:16
I'm doing everything legal like I'm I'm good and they they're
35:19
very supportive of. Are you genuinely happy?
35:22
I am. I would have never I I own my
35:25
own house. I like who can who at 21 can say
35:28
that like this has gave gave me so much autonomy over my life.
35:31
Listen, I don't know if she's truly happy or not, but all I
35:34
know. Is I don't even like that
35:35
question because most humans are never actually happy.
35:38
Emotion is are you content? But whatever.
35:40
But also the way I feel about it is just that it it's up to her.
35:44
It's literally in the Declaration of Independence.
35:46
My happiness doesn't determine whether or not a like we
35:48
shouldn't be. No, it's just it's irrelevant to
35:51
the conversation. But the pursuit of happiness is
35:53
literally an inalienable of human right in the Constitution.
35:58
And obviously there's limits on everything.
36:00
But it's like whether she's happy or not is not for James
36:03
Fishback or Brad Palumbo or Clarkson Law.
36:05
Happiness is not an objective law that humans follow, meaning
36:09
that it it doesn't happiness isn't something that we can say
36:12
all humans are happy from this. No.
36:14
So what makes someone happy is very different, which means if
36:18
we're going to have that in law and we want people to be able to
36:22
pursue their own happiness, then you have to open up the
36:25
discussion to people pursuing things that make you happy.
36:29
Really. And but this is like, come on,
36:32
this is I feel, I feel like I'm talking to.
36:35
Like I fear. Yeah, it's this is we're
36:38
explaining very basic concepts. This is like me making the video
36:41
about like 8th grade civics. I just feel like a lot of this
36:44
stuff is just. I don't think it is though.
36:46
I think actually a lot of people will probably come into that and
36:48
be like maybe we should ban only fans or whatever and they
36:50
haven't thought about the layers of it.
36:52
Yeah, I overestimate people's intelligence a lot.
36:54
But not our viewers. They're smart and they have
36:56
really good taste. My life and I'm just so grateful
36:59
for the platform because I wouldn't have been here,
37:01
especially in today's economy. They're just even candy, that
37:04
Clarkson. Brought.
37:04
You know, I'm thinking like of say the.
37:06
Cow. People like that, right?
37:08
They're always dripping off and they're making survey millions,
37:10
billions actually as a family from their bodies predominantly.
37:14
They don't have any other discernible real talent.
37:16
You brought up the Kardashians. It's just stripping off and
37:18
being, you know, in the in the in the media and it's been very
37:22
successful. Does your syntax apply to them?
37:26
The syntax applies to adult content on the Internet, whether
37:28
it's only fans or any other platform peers.
37:30
Let me just ask Sophie a question.
37:32
Sophie, if the number of women doing only fans tripled in
37:36
Florida tomorrow, would that be a good or a bad thing?
37:40
I think I think honestly, it's would be a great thing.
37:43
A lot of women are trying to find different ways to make more
37:46
income in a, you know, heavily damage to the economy.
37:49
So I think that there should be those opportunities out there
37:52
for these women to make an income.
37:54
I would say no, that wouldn't be a good thing and you would have
37:56
failed as governor to create opportunities for other women so
37:59
they don't have to resort to this.
38:01
Rather than banning only fans or putting a tax on it, maybe you
38:04
should focus on making sure that women can actually pursue the
38:07
things they want. Yeah, And I I also think the
38:10
question is too simplistic. It's like, theoretically it
38:13
could be a good thing if those were women no longer working at
38:16
strip clubs where they might get beaten up or working for shady
38:18
porn studios where men are taking advantage of them, and
38:21
instead they're doing a lot that actually could be theoretically
38:23
a good thing. Do I just want a ton more women
38:26
going into this kind of line of work?
38:28
No, I don't. But ultimately, I don't really
38:30
care. Ultimate I, well, I, I think
38:32
it's probably not great, but ultimately it's not my choice.
38:37
It's their choice. You either believe in freedom
38:39
and autonomy for adults or you don't.
38:41
And creepy James Fishback clearly does not.
38:44
Is badly damaged. I proudly voted for President
38:46
Trump Pierce in 2024 and I have to tell you that I am not proud
38:50
of the work that he has done. We are not living in a golden
38:52
age whatsoever. People in my state are
38:55
struggling under the weight of this affordability crisis.
38:57
And Sophie Rein and I see eye to eye that this economy is hurting
39:00
a lot of I think that where we disagree is that the economy
39:04
hurts people. And Sophie Rain wants to say
39:06
let's get them to join only fans.
39:07
And what I say is let's get new job training especially for
39:10
women. Let's create new pathways, new
39:12
opportunities at our public universities career technical
39:15
school. Let's create a statewide
39:17
internship program for anyone under the age of 25 to get a
39:20
great paying job that will teach them new skills in the 21st
39:23
century. So, Sophie, you and I see eye to
39:25
eye. But this is the difference is
39:27
like a non coercive a non controlling a non authoritarian
39:31
social conservative would promote those alternatives with
39:34
the end goal of reducing people going into sex work but not try
39:39
to storch them out of it through the state.
39:42
There's a very big. Difference, and there's a huge
39:44
difference there. And also like, it's very easy to
39:47
just say stuff. We're going to create
39:49
internships for everybody under 25 and teach them valuable.
39:52
Skills, we're not going to be able to do any of that.
39:54
If there was some easy. You don't think Ron DeSantis
39:56
would do that if it was just super easy?
39:58
Also switch to flip. You're not going to make any
40:00
money off of this. You're not going to be able to
40:02
do that part of, yeah, part of what?
40:03
He says. We're going to have public
40:04
school. Teachers bonuses.
40:06
So we're just wasting. We're just wasting our time.
40:08
Yeah, completely. We, I think, disagree.
40:10
Is the solution when? You say that tripling the number
40:12
of Only Fans craters is a good thing.
40:14
That speaks to the damage of the economy.
40:16
What I want to do is create a real economy that allows people
40:19
like those women to do something.
40:21
Or you're missing. Maybe you're missing you?
40:23
Keep you, keep talking for Sophie.
40:25
I've noticed, right? I think you should let us be for
40:27
herself, not least because she's worth $43 million.
40:30
But. But the point I would make is
40:32
what about, you know, the argument that women are
40:35
empowered to make their own decisions about their own
40:37
bodies, their own? So if so, if so.
40:40
Let me ask you a question. Piers, if a woman is empowered
40:42
to make their own decision about their own body and a woman
40:45
struggles to pay the rent, do we then encourage that woman to
40:47
sell one of her kidneys to pay the rent and say it was her own
40:50
decision? No, she's not sending her
40:51
kidney. She's not selling.
40:52
No. Hold on, Hold on you.
40:55
Think, Oh my gosh, selling a kidney is entirely different.
41:00
I don't even, we don't need to explain this.
41:02
Obviously, everyone agrees. That, like autonomy, is not
41:06
totally unlimited, but there's a big difference between risque
41:12
selling, risque photos of yourself and literally having
41:15
pieces of your body cut out in soul, right?
41:17
And most of the time selling. Photos that y'all probably would
41:20
have already posted for free anyways.
41:23
Hoes these days, yeah. You guys post a lot on
41:26
Instagram. I don't know about.
41:28
Kidneys because I don't know like the the differences in, but
41:32
I actually do think I actually do think.
41:34
People should should be able to sell.
41:35
Their kids, adults should be able to sell organs that can
41:38
save, that can safely be donated to others.
41:41
Yes. I actually think you could
41:42
probably save a lot of lot. Yeah, but that's me being a
41:44
pretty strict libertarian there. You don't have to believe that
41:47
in order to disagree with his position.
41:49
He's intentionally pulling an extreme.
41:51
Don't think that having one hard.
41:53
Environmental factor, that is something that everybody can
41:55
have is indicative of exploitation because you still
41:59
have a choice on how you respond to it.
42:00
So if you're struggling to pay rent, a lot of people struggle
42:03
to pay rent, it's still your choice on if you want to sell a
42:06
kidney or not. Yeah.
42:08
So it's not you're not being coerced into this decision.
42:11
You're really just being a human living life, making choices,
42:15
approaching A struggle and and and making a choice that's still
42:19
using your free will. Not every environmental factor
42:23
can be controlled by the government.
42:25
Anyways, let's keep rolling. Oh my God, we're.
42:27
Running. Really.
42:28
That's what I'm saying. How do you draw the line?
42:29
Last, she is. Imperiling her picture as a mom,
42:32
as a worker. You just heard Sophie say she
42:34
imperiled her future as a mom. I don't get.
42:36
That yours? How did she imperil her future
42:38
as a mother? Well, let me tell you how you
42:41
just heard. Sophie tell you that she was
42:42
fired from her job when her boss found out her only fans.
42:45
She was fired from her job and now what is?
42:48
With all due respect to Sophie, what are you going to tell your
42:50
daughter in 10 or 15 years when all of these images are all over
42:54
the Internet and your daughter is being bullied in middle
42:56
school and was told that you guys were Christians?
42:58
With all due respect, what do you say then?
43:00
I think this is a legitimate point.
43:02
I tell my daughter to wipe her tears with the money I get.
43:04
Her. OK, Clarkson.
43:06
I'm serious. Like no, because do you know?
43:08
What's much worse for which probably poverty by every metric
43:13
is where this I have the same argument about like gay adoption
43:16
and gay surrogacy. They're like these things are so
43:18
bad for children's development blah blah.
43:21
And even though they usually say that with no factual evidence
43:24
whatsoever, even if they were in comparison to growing up poor or
43:29
never being many people do or never.
43:31
Well, yeah, but growing up poor has so much detrimental damage
43:36
on a child comparatively to these other things that it's
43:40
it's like your priorities are entirely, entirely out of whack.
43:44
Well, and also, but they'll never.
43:46
Tell a poor person not to have kids.
43:47
They tell poor people to have as many kids as they want, which
43:50
they should, sure, as long as they.
43:52
Can of course, I believe that too, but they'll.
43:53
Never step in and say oh wait, actually poverty is causing a
43:58
lot of the problems we complain about.
43:59
They would rather use sex workers when I say though.
44:02
But when I say he has a point. What I mean is that that is
44:05
something people should think about before they go into this,
44:10
right? That these photos will be out
44:11
there forever. Yeah.
44:12
You will have to explain them to your kids.
44:14
That's why I just made sure all of mine are hot.
44:17
Whenever I take a picture, I'm not saying that's a valid.
44:20
Reason to ban it or like he said he wants to, or to tax it out of
44:24
existence like he wants to. But I am saying that's a valid
44:27
concern that you should have thought through fully before
44:30
making this decision. But at the end of the day, I
44:32
just believe that adults are capable of making their own
44:35
decisions and he doesn't. He wants to be everyone's daddy
44:38
and control them in weird, vaguely creepy ways.
44:44
Also, what would you tell your child?
44:46
When they're getting bullied because you can't afford to buy
44:48
them new shoes. She's a waitress.
44:50
What are what are you going to? Tell your child when there's a
44:52
video of their dad saying a black person should be lynched.
44:54
Oh, that's a good. That's a really good point.
44:58
Yeah. What are you?
44:59
I would much rather have that. But see the thing?
45:01
Is is that a lot? Of what he's saying fits into
45:03
like the radical Christian ideas.
45:05
No, no. I'm.
45:07
I said radical I know, but. Because a lot of radical
45:11
religious people will be will accept these crazy ideas because
45:16
I don't know why, but for some reason they do.
45:18
So I don't think that he's going to have a problem.
45:20
I think his kids would be will be like holy.
45:22
Crap, your dad is that crazy person on TV or he will raise
45:25
them to. Believe the things that he
45:27
likes. I don't know, they will probably
45:29
rebel. Against it.
45:30
Same way all my kids are going to be non binary.
45:32
A real weight, a real tension. Between a mom and her children
45:35
and of course a worker and her employer, I don't want to
45:38
encourage women to go on only fans and then get fired from
45:40
their job and then have a real fight at home about what mommy
45:43
did on the Internet last week. OK, Sophie.
45:46
I mean. I'm only 21, I haven't even
45:49
thought about having kids yet. But also I think that the main
45:52
discussion here is syntax. And like in the state of
45:55
Florida, there's already no income tax.
45:56
So, and that's also one of the main identities of Florida is
46:00
that it is a no income. State.
46:01
Tax and I think the main issue here is, is you're attacking
46:04
women already on the site making money and there's multiple.
46:09
Exactly, there's multiple. People on the site.
46:11
And not everyone does adult content.
46:13
Only Fans is a massive platform and you can do anything on
46:17
there. Not everything is adult content.
46:19
I think to be fair, to be fair to him, Sophie.
46:21
He's not. He's not saying that everyone
46:22
and only fans should get the same.
46:23
He's just saying. He's just saying the people that
46:25
he considers to be sinful should get attacks and you're one of
46:28
them. He thinks you're a Sinner.
46:30
What do you say to that? Well, syntax is.
46:33
You know he's proposing that is going to attack everyone on the
46:35
only fan site. So does that include all of you
46:38
know the cooks on there that are just selling their doesn't
46:40
Sophie? No, it doesn't.
46:42
So how do you? Single out disingenuous.
46:43
How do you work? James, are you going to be
46:47
launching a sin purge? Are you?
46:48
How you going to do this? We're going to put you in charge
46:51
of it, Pierce and. And So what do you do in broad
46:54
mind, James? I, I, I think you.
46:55
People know people are obeying the law.
46:57
They can do what they like with their own lives.
46:58
What's he going to do with you? You know what?
47:00
So. So what do you?
47:00
So what do you say then? Because prior to slavery being
47:03
illegal, they were obeying the law.
47:04
They owned 100 black people saying make it OK.
47:06
Of course God. I mean, yes, obviously.
47:08
Legality and morality are not the same thing, and slavery does
47:11
prove that point. But it's like hype.
47:13
It's, it's just so crazy to be invoking that as if that's
47:16
comparable to this. Well, it's also like you can.
47:19
Tell he doesn't have a strong argument argument to back it, so
47:21
he has to pull a sensational part of history to relate it to
47:25
it so it can make it seem like he has a more valid argument
47:28
because like he really doesn't have a defense here.
47:30
No, and but they're also not. Making a good point by saying
47:33
what about the people who don't do explicit content?
47:35
Well his tax will be on the ones who do.
47:37
It's like that's not the best argument.
47:39
We're still playing in Fantasyland.
47:40
Because the execution of that would never happen.
47:42
I agree. And it would be hard to know
47:44
where the. Line is all of this is in
47:45
fantasyland. This will never happen.
47:47
Well, this whole campaign is fantasyland.
47:49
This whole thing will never happen.
47:51
Here's the point. I'm I'm.
47:51
My my attention is like right now.
47:55
Here's the point that I want to make though.
47:57
What do you think? Because this is not their first
47:59
interaction. He has led his whole campaign
48:01
and he's focused it around her. I don't know if you know this,
48:04
but he's like talked about her at campaign rallies and like
48:06
made videos about this tax that feature her and everything.
48:09
And he's like made her the target of this campaign.
48:13
What do you think the effect of that on her bottom line and
48:16
subscriber count has been positive or negative?
48:18
Oh, she's definite. I was just about to say.
48:20
This is giving her a ton of money.
48:22
The net effect of his fish of James.
48:24
Fishback's campaign for the OF tax will be to have It will
48:29
never happen. You'll get less than 10% in the
48:31
final election for governor and she will get more attention,
48:35
celebrity, followers, money and subscribers to her.
48:37
She is getting that is the net effect all that.
48:40
Will happen is. James will get himself some
48:42
viral moments and attention, but if you actually cared about not
48:45
promoting OF the net effect of this will be promoting it
48:48
correct? Oh my God, let.
48:50
Me get to the very specific point that I think Sophie.
48:52
You think she's a slave you have of all the.
48:55
Arguments. You didn't.
48:56
That's all that you made. Some of the points you've made,
48:58
but. This idea that somehow.
49:00
Sophie. Is some sort of slave.
49:01
I'm just not buying that. Look, Sophie may not be a slave.
49:04
She hasn't made 43,000,000. Don't lowball her.
49:06
She's made over $100 million when I talk to young women.
49:09
Is that right, Sophie? You've made over. 100 million.
49:13
Dollars. She doesn't need to worry about
49:16
debating girl, just show up. Just show up and advertise.
49:20
But at that point, why are you still doing it?
49:22
Like why aren't you? Riding off into the sunset,
49:23
that's why I don't understand, because at that point you make
49:26
so. Much.
49:27
You just keep it going, I guess. And a span of two years, yes.
49:31
Sophie, if you want to be my running bait and be.
49:32
Lieutenant governor of Florida. It'll cost you 10 million.
49:35
You'd be happy to do it. I'd be honored to have you,
49:37
Sophie. No.
49:42
What did he say? He just said I'll you can be my
49:44
running mate. For $10 million, that sounds
49:46
like a crime now of course you're not going to be governor
49:49
so it won't matter, but I don't think you can sell running mate
49:54
position. I I know he's not, he's not
49:56
serious of course, but still also like it's he's not beating
50:00
the. I have a crush on you
50:01
allegations. He is so freaking.
50:03
Look at him, he's like. He is looking at her.
50:07
Your family, God. All right.
50:09
Can we just stop? We're going to watch a few more.
50:12
Sophie I I have to say I don't. I mean this with no disrespect,
50:15
but I I'm not aware I've viewed your work.
50:17
What is it that makes you so popular?
50:20
I think that I'm just very transparent with my.
50:22
Audience, I'm never over here encouraging people to try and
50:25
join the site. I'm very clear on the pros and
50:27
cons of it also, but I'm just very trans.
50:29
Hold on, what are one of the cons then?
50:30
What are one of the? Cons.
50:31
What is a con? Let's be transparent.
50:32
What is a con of Jolene? I mean, exactly like you said.
50:34
I'm not going to sit here and lie and say that.
50:36
Only Fans is a great site. Some of the points you are
50:38
making are correct. Like, you know, it's damaging to
50:40
the future and I want people to understand and educate
50:42
themselves, but you women still should be able to make that
50:45
decision for themselves at the end of the day.
50:50
Tax to disincentivize. It hang on, hang on.
50:52
Did you hear that? He just said I'm not.
50:54
Banning it, I'm raising a tax to incentivize it.
50:56
But also earlier in the same exact video, he said.
50:58
I, I want to make it illegal as well.
51:01
So it's like he see how we're trying to rationalize.
51:04
A provocateur? Yeah, I'm done with him.
51:06
We can be done. OK.
51:08
Thank God this we should have done this last we have.
51:10
A bunch of other videos and my I'm my brain is done.
51:14
We'll take a little break after. This was a little 50.
51:16
Minute. Holy crap.
51:17
You guys let us know what you. Think do you support James fish
51:20
back or will you be voting for him?
51:22
Do you agree with us that he's vaguely creepy?
51:26
And make sure what are the, what are we doing for?
51:28
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51:30
Of the video we did, I did. Oh, OK.
51:33
Yeah, see. We're doing this YouTube.
51:34
We have a lot. Of viewers?
51:36
Nobody. Who is watching at 53 minutes is
51:39
somebody who's not subscribed to us.
51:41
You would be surprised. We just have a.
51:43
Lot of viewers who don't subscribe.
51:44
To the channel, but they watch our stuff and it's like, why you
51:46
do that to us? Anyway, guys, become a channel.
51:49
Member to support. Us, if we get, we're going to
51:51
come up with a number where Clarkson will delete his OF if
51:54
we start making a bunch of money on.
51:55
Here I would probably delete it. Guys, you just heard it.
51:59
All of our, all of our good. Not because I think it's
52:03
shameful. Christian followers need to
52:05
subscribe to us as members right now so we can get this sinful
52:08
home off of the not because I think it's shameful, but just.
52:11
Because it's like kind of I don't feel like taking pictures
52:14
of myself all the time. So anyway, guys, thanks so much
52:18
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52:19
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52:26
probably won't be real soon. Bye.