Latest / The Frommer's Travel Show / Japan Vacations: Expert advice from David McElhinney, author of the new "Frommer's Japan" guidebook
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- 0:20Welcome
- 0:20to
- 0:20the
- 0:20Fromer
- 0:21Travel
- 0:21Show.
- 0:21I'm
- 0:22your
- 0:22host,
- 0:22Pauline
- 0:23Fromer,
- 0:24and
- 0:24we
- 0:24are
- 0:24celebrating
- 0:25today
- 0:26because
- 0:27for
- 0:27the
- 0:27first
- 0:27time
- 0:28in
- 0:28over
- 0:28a
- 0:29decade,
- 0:29we
- 0:30have
- 0:30a
- 0:30new
- 0:31Fromer's
- 0:32Japan
- 0:33book
- 0:33out.
- 0:34In
- 0:34the
- 0:34interim,
- 0:35we
- 0:35had
- 0:35done
- 0:36a
- 0:37book
- 0:37just
- 0:37on
- 0:38Western
- 0:38Honshu,
- 0:40which
- 0:40is
- 0:40the
- 0:41part
- 0:41of
- 0:41Japan
- 0:42that
- 0:42most
- 0:43visitors
- 0:44go
- 0:44to
- 0:45Tokyo,
- 0:46Kyoto
- 0:46and
- 0:46the
- 0:47like.
- 0:47But
- 0:47we
- 0:48realized
- 0:48that
- 0:49the
- 0:50entire
- 0:50nation
- 0:51deserved
- 0:52better
- 0:53coverage,
- 0:54and
- 0:54so
- 0:54we
- 0:55went
- 0:55on
- 0:55a
- 0:55big
- 0:56search
- 0:56to
- 0:57find
- 0:58the
- 0:58best
- 0:58author
- 0:59for
- 1:00that
- 1:00job.
- 1:01We
- 1:01found
- 1:02him.
- 1:02He
- 1:02is
- 1:03on
- 1:03the
- 1:03phone
- 1:04right
- 1:04now.
- 1:04His
- 1:05name
- 1:05is
- 1:05David
- 1:06McElhenney.
- 1:07Did
- 1:07I
- 1:08pronounce
- 1:08your
- 1:08name
- 1:09right?
- 1:10Almost,
- 1:10but
- 1:11I
- 1:11wouldn't
- 1:11worry
- 1:11about.
- 1:11Everyone
- 1:11butchers
- 1:12it.
- 1:12It's
- 1:12McElhenny.
- 1:13McElhenny.
- 1:15I've
- 1:16mostly
- 1:16talked
- 1:16to
- 1:16you
- 1:17and
- 1:17said
- 1:17just
- 1:17David.
- 1:17So,
- 1:18yeah,
- 1:18most
- 1:18people
- 1:19do.
- 1:19They
- 1:20say
- 1:20the
- 1:20name
- 1:20and
- 1:20they
- 1:20avoid
- 1:21it.
- 1:21Right.
- 1:22And
- 1:22I
- 1:23think
- 1:23probably
- 1:23people
- 1:24can
- 1:24hear
- 1:25from
- 1:25your
- 1:26accent
- 1:27that
- 1:27you
- 1:27are
- 1:27not
- 1:28a
- 1:28Japanese
- 1:29native,
- 1:29that
- 1:29you
- 1:30come
- 1:30from
- 1:32Northern
- 1:32Ireland.
- 1:32Correct?
- 1:33Yes.
- 1:34Yeah.
- 1:34If
- 1:34the
- 1:34name
- 1:34didn't
- 1:34give
- 1:35it
- 1:35away,
- 1:35I'm
- 1:35sure
- 1:35the
- 1:35accent
- 1:36will.
- 1:36Yeah.
- 1:36From
- 1:37Belfast,
- 1:37originally.
- 1:38So
- 1:39how
- 1:39did
- 1:39you
- 1:40come
- 1:40to
- 1:40be
- 1:41what
- 1:41I
- 1:42consider
- 1:42one
- 1:42of
- 1:43the
- 1:43finest
- 1:43Japan
- 1:44experts
- 1:45I've
- 1:45ever
- 1:45encountered?
- 1:46Thank
- 1:47you
- 1:47very
- 1:47much.
- 1:47That's
- 1:47making
- 1:48me
- 1:48blush.
- 1:49Well,
- 1:50it
- 1:50was
- 1:51sort
- 1:51of
- 1:51a
- 1:52spontaneous
- 1:52decision.
- 1:53I
- 1:54was
- 1:54traveling
- 1:55a
- 1:55lot
- 1:56in
- 1:56Southeast
- 1:56Asia,
- 1:57really,
- 1:57like
- 1:58that
- 1:58part
- 1:58of
- 1:58the
- 1:58world.
- 1:58I
- 1:59lived
- 1:59in
- 1:59China
- 1:59for
- 1:59six
- 2:00months
- 2:00as
- 2:01a
- 2:02teacher.
- 2:02I'm
- 2:02using
- 2:02inverted
- 2:03commas
- 2:03there
- 2:03because
- 2:04I
- 2:04didn't
- 2:04do
- 2:04an
- 2:04awful
- 2:04lot
- 2:04of
- 2:04teaching,
- 2:05but
- 2:05that
- 2:06was
- 2:06my
- 2:06official,
- 2:06official
- 2:07role.
- 2:08And
- 2:09then
- 2:09I
- 2:09lived
- 2:09in
- 2:09Australia
- 2:09for
- 2:10a
- 2:10year,
- 2:10which
- 2:10was
- 2:11fine,
- 2:11but
- 2:11I
- 2:11was
- 2:12just
- 2:12kind
- 2:12of
- 2:12doing
- 2:14odd
- 2:14jobs
- 2:14on,
- 2:14like,
- 2:15building
- 2:15sites,
- 2:16worked
- 2:16in
- 2:16call
- 2:17centers,
- 2:17things
- 2:18like
- 2:18that.
- 2:19But
- 2:19I
- 2:19kind
- 2:19of
- 2:19felt
- 2:20drawn
- 2:20back
- 2:20to
- 2:21Asia,
- 2:21and
- 2:21I'd
- 2:22never
- 2:22been
- 2:22to
- 2:22Japan,
- 2:22but
- 2:22it
- 2:23was
- 2:23always
- 2:23somewhere
- 2:24culturally.
- 2:24They
- 2:25kind
- 2:25of
- 2:25fascinated
- 2:25me.
- 2:26So
- 2:26I
- 2:26decided
- 2:27I
- 2:27would
- 2:27move
- 2:27there
- 2:28for
- 2:29a
- 2:29year
- 2:29in
- 2:30principle
- 2:30to
- 2:31teach
- 2:31English,
- 2:31and
- 2:32that
- 2:33turned
- 2:33into
- 2:33two,
- 2:33which
- 2:33turned
- 2:34into
- 2:34three,
- 2:34and
- 2:34so
- 2:35on.
- 2:35I
- 2:35just
- 2:36kind
- 2:36of
- 2:36fell
- 2:36in
- 2:36love
- 2:36with
- 2:36the
- 2:36place
- 2:37as
- 2:37I
- 2:37thought
- 2:37I
- 2:38might.
- 2:38So,
- 2:38yeah,
- 2:39that's
- 2:39the
- 2:39very
- 2:40contracted
- 2:40version.
- 2:41Yeah.
- 2:42And
- 2:42it's
- 2:42been
- 2:43seven
- 2:43years
- 2:43now
- 2:44that
- 2:44you've
- 2:44been
- 2:45in
- 2:46and
- 2:46around
- 2:46Japan.
- 2:47Seven
- 2:47years,
- 2:48yeah,
- 2:48Seven
- 2:49years,
- 2:49yeah.
- 2:50And
- 2:50writing
- 2:50about
- 2:51it
- 2:51extensively.
- 2:53And
- 2:53as
- 2:53a
- 2:53writer,
- 2:54I
- 2:54don't
- 2:54think
- 2:54this
- 2:54will
- 2:55come
- 2:55as
- 2:55a
- 2:55surprise
- 2:56to
- 2:56anybody.
- 2:57You
- 2:57do
- 2:58not
- 2:58have
- 2:59funding
- 3:00that
- 3:00is
- 3:00unlimited.
- 3:02Right.
- 3:03And
- 3:03Japan
- 3:04can
- 3:04be
- 3:05a
- 3:05very,
- 3:05very
- 3:06expensive
- 3:07country.
- 3:07Well,
- 3:07it's
- 3:08less
- 3:08expensive
- 3:09now
- 3:09because
- 3:09the
- 3:09Japanese
- 3:10yen
- 3:11is
- 3:11much
- 3:12weaker
- 3:13against
- 3:14many
- 3:14world
- 3:14currencies,
- 3:15including
- 3:15the
- 3:16US
- 3:16dollar.
- 3:17But
- 3:17still,
- 3:18it
- 3:18is
- 3:19an
- 3:19overall
- 3:20Expensive
- 3:21place.
- 3:22So
- 3:22what
- 3:22are
- 3:22some
- 3:22of
- 3:23the
- 3:23ways
- 3:23that
- 3:24you,
- 3:25in
- 3:25the
- 3:25book
- 3:25and
- 3:26in
- 3:26your
- 3:27daily
- 3:27life,
- 3:27talking
- 3:28with
- 3:28pals,
- 3:29tell
- 3:29people
- 3:29they
- 3:30can
- 3:30save
- 3:30money
- 3:31in
- 3:31Japan?
- 3:32Yeah,
- 3:33I
- 3:33think
- 3:33you
- 3:33kind
- 3:33of
- 3:33touched
- 3:34on
- 3:34there.
- 3:34It's
- 3:34like
- 3:34expensive
- 3:35is
- 3:35a
- 3:35relative
- 3:35term.
- 3:36I
- 3:36mean,
- 3:36Japan
- 3:36certainly
- 3:37was
- 3:37more
- 3:37expensive
- 3:38than
- 3:38it
- 3:38is
- 3:38now.
- 3:38But
- 3:39I
- 3:40think
- 3:40people
- 3:40always
- 3:40want
- 3:41to
- 3:41try
- 3:41and
- 3:41save
- 3:41money
- 3:41where
- 3:42they
- 3:42can.
- 3:42And
- 3:42there
- 3:43are
- 3:43certain
- 3:43things
- 3:43in
- 3:43the
- 3:43country
- 3:44which,
- 3:44which
- 3:44are
- 3:44still
- 3:44quite
- 3:45pricey.
- 3:45Like
- 3:46I
- 3:46would
- 3:46say
- 3:46the
- 3:47number
- 3:47one
- 3:48biggest
- 3:48expense.
- 3:49Well,
- 3:49the
- 3:49two
- 3:49biggest
- 3:50expenses
- 3:50are
- 3:51accommodation
- 3:52and
- 3:52transport.
- 3:53It's
- 3:53perhaps
- 3:53not
- 3:54unique
- 3:54to
- 3:54Japan,
- 3:54but
- 3:55with
- 3:55transport
- 3:56specifically,
- 3:57what's
- 3:57expensive
- 3:57are
- 3:57the
- 3:57bullet
- 3:58trains
- 3:59which
- 3:59people
- 3:59will
- 3:59obviously
- 4:00use
- 4:00to
- 4:00get
- 4:00around
- 4:00the
- 4:01country
- 4:01because
- 4:01it's
- 4:01more
- 4:01convenient
- 4:02than
- 4:02flying.
- 4:02It
- 4:03is
- 4:03more
- 4:03expensive
- 4:03than
- 4:04flying,
- 4:04but
- 4:04it's
- 4:05more
- 4:05convenient.
- 4:05And
- 4:05I
- 4:05think
- 4:06people
- 4:06see
- 4:06the
- 4:06bullet
- 4:06train
- 4:07as
- 4:07like
- 4:08a
- 4:08travel
- 4:08experience
- 4:09in
- 4:09and
- 4:09of
- 4:09itself,
- 4:10you
- 4:10know,
- 4:10so.
- 4:11Well,
- 4:11I
- 4:11felt
- 4:11that
- 4:11way
- 4:12when
- 4:12I
- 4:12did
- 4:12it.
- 4:12I
- 4:13mean
- 4:13there
- 4:13is
- 4:14that
- 4:14moment
- 4:14where
- 4:15it
- 4:15just
- 4:15zooms
- 4:16out
- 4:16of
- 4:16the
- 4:16station.
- 4:17I've
- 4:18always
- 4:18heard
- 4:18about
- 4:18the
- 4:19Concorde
- 4:19when
- 4:19that
- 4:20was
- 4:20flying.
- 4:20And
- 4:20there
- 4:20was
- 4:21this
- 4:21moment
- 4:21where
- 4:21you
- 4:21were
- 4:22pressed
- 4:22back
- 4:22into
- 4:23your
- 4:23seat
- 4:24and
- 4:24then
- 4:24you
- 4:24suddenly
- 4:25rocketed
- 4:26forward
- 4:26and
- 4:27the
- 4:27bullet
- 4:27train
- 4:27almost
- 4:28felt
- 4:28like
- 4:29that.
- 4:29I
- 4:29mean
- 4:29the
- 4:29speed
- 4:30was,
- 4:30was.
- 4:31I
- 4:31could
- 4:31feel
- 4:31it.
- 4:32Yeah.
- 4:32Now
- 4:32that
- 4:33you
- 4:33mention
- 4:33it,
- 4:34you
- 4:34do
- 4:34get
- 4:34that
- 4:35sensation
- 4:36the
- 4:36first
- 4:36time
- 4:36you
- 4:36take
- 4:36the
- 4:36bullet
- 4:37train.
- 4:37But
- 4:37it's
- 4:37weird,
- 4:38you
- 4:38know,
- 4:38like
- 4:38anything,
- 4:38when
- 4:39you
- 4:39start
- 4:39to
- 4:39do
- 4:39it
- 4:39quite
- 4:39regularly,
- 4:40you
- 4:40sort
- 4:40of
- 4:40forget
- 4:40about
- 4:41that.
- 4:42Yeah,
- 4:42it's
- 4:42an
- 4:42experience
- 4:42in
- 4:42and
- 4:43of
- 4:43itself.
- 4:43So
- 4:43people
- 4:43will
- 4:44almost
- 4:44certainly
- 4:44use
- 4:44the
- 4:45bullet
- 4:45train
- 4:45as
- 4:45their
- 4:45primary
- 4:47method
- 4:47for
- 4:47getting
- 4:47around
- 4:48the
- 4:48country.
- 4:48A
- 4:49good
- 4:49way
- 4:49to
- 4:49save
- 4:49money
- 4:50on
- 4:50that
- 4:50is
- 4:50through
- 4:51the
- 4:51JR
- 4:51pass,
- 4:52the
- 4:52Japan
- 4:52Rail
- 4:53Pass,
- 4:53which
- 4:53you
- 4:53have
- 4:54to
- 4:54get
- 4:54before
- 4:54you
- 4:55come
- 4:55to
- 4:55the
- 4:55country.
- 4:56It
- 4:56basically
- 4:57gives
- 4:57you
- 4:57like
- 4:58a
- 4:59one
- 4:59use
- 4:59ticket
- 5:00that
- 5:00you
- 5:00can
- 5:01or
- 5:01one
- 5:02all
- 5:02encompassing
- 5:02ticket
- 5:03that
- 5:03you
- 5:03can
- 5:03use
- 5:03on
- 5:03all
- 5:04of
- 5:04the
- 5:04different
- 5:04bullet
- 5:04trains
- 5:04that
- 5:05you'll
- 5:05use
- 5:05and
- 5:06local
- 5:06trains
- 5:06provided
- 5:07they're
- 5:07operated
- 5:08by
- 5:08Japan
- 5:09Rail.
- 5:09Now
- 5:09it
- 5:10gets
- 5:10a
- 5:10little
- 5:10bit
- 5:10confusing
- 5:10in
- 5:10the
- 5:11cities
- 5:11because
- 5:11sometimes
- 5:12they're.
- 5:12A
- 5:12train
- 5:12might
- 5:13be
- 5:13run
- 5:13by
- 5:13a
- 5:13private
- 5:14operator
- 5:15or
- 5:15you
- 5:15know,
- 5:15might
- 5:15be
- 5:15a
- 5:15metro
- 5:16line,
- 5:16which
- 5:16I
- 5:16think
- 5:16is
- 5:17sort
- 5:17of
- 5:17run
- 5:17by
- 5:17the
- 5:17city.
- 5:17But
- 5:18in
- 5:18general
- 5:18it
- 5:19means
- 5:19that
- 5:19you
- 5:19have
- 5:19one
- 5:19ticket
- 5:20that
- 5:20you
- 5:20can
- 5:20use
- 5:20on
- 5:20the
- 5:20majority
- 5:21of
- 5:21trains
- 5:22that
- 5:22you're
- 5:22going
- 5:22to
- 5:22get
- 5:23in
- 5:23the
- 5:23country.
- 5:24Rather
- 5:24than
- 5:25like
- 5:25kind
- 5:25of
- 5:25going
- 5:25into
- 5:26the
- 5:26specifics
- 5:26of
- 5:26pricing,
- 5:27I
- 5:27would
- 5:27say
- 5:28the,
- 5:29the
- 5:29best
- 5:29way
- 5:29to
- 5:30think
- 5:30about
- 5:30it
- 5:30is
- 5:30like
- 5:30you.
- 5:31You
- 5:31can
- 5:31go
- 5:32online
- 5:32to
- 5:32the
- 5:33Japan
- 5:33Rail
- 5:33Pass
- 5:33fare
- 5:34calculator,
- 5:35kind
- 5:35of
- 5:35taught
- 5:35up
- 5:35the
- 5:36journeys
- 5:36you
- 5:36think
- 5:36you're
- 5:37probably
- 5:37going
- 5:37to
- 5:37do
- 5:38see
- 5:38how
- 5:38much
- 5:39that's
- 5:39going
- 5:39to
- 5:39cost
- 5:39and
- 5:39then
- 5:39just
- 5:40cross
- 5:40reference
- 5:40that
- 5:41with
- 5:41the
- 5:41price
- 5:42of
- 5:42the
- 5:427,
- 5:4214
- 5:43or
- 5:4321
- 5:43day
- 5:44ticket.
- 5:44Sometimes,
- 5:45you
- 5:45know,
- 5:45the
- 5:467
- 5:46day
- 5:46ticket
- 5:47might
- 5:47be
- 5:47a
- 5:47little
- 5:47bit
- 5:47more
- 5:48expensive
- 5:48than
- 5:48the
- 5:48amount
- 5:49of
- 5:49trains
- 5:49you
- 5:49want
- 5:49to
- 5:49get
- 5:50in
- 5:50a
- 5:50seven
- 5:50day
- 5:50period.
- 5:51But
- 5:51you
- 5:52also
- 5:52might
- 5:52say,
- 5:52well,
- 5:53it's
- 5:53only
- 5:53a
- 5:532,3000
- 5:54yen
- 5:54difference
- 5:54and
- 5:54that's
- 5:55negligible
- 5:55given
- 5:55that
- 5:56I
- 5:56don't
- 5:56have
- 5:56to
- 5:56go
- 5:56through
- 5:57the
- 5:57stress
- 5:57of
- 5:57getting
- 5:57a
- 5:57ticket
- 5:58for
- 5:58each
- 5:58train
- 5:59I'm
- 5:59getting.
- 6:00I
- 6:00mean,
- 6:01people
- 6:01who
- 6:01are
- 6:01thinking
- 6:02about
- 6:02going
- 6:02to
- 6:02Japan
- 6:02might
- 6:03have
- 6:03read
- 6:03that
- 6:03there
- 6:03was
- 6:03a
- 6:04big
- 6:04price
- 6:04hike
- 6:05in
- 6:05the
- 6:05JR
- 6:05Pass
- 6:06recently.
- 6:06It
- 6:06was
- 6:07a
- 6:0769%
- 6:07price
- 6:08hike,
- 6:08which
- 6:08is
- 6:09yikes.
- 6:10Yeah,
- 6:10it
- 6:10is
- 6:10pretty
- 6:11yikes.
- 6:11But
- 6:12to
- 6:12put
- 6:12that
- 6:13into
- 6:13perspective,
- 6:14it
- 6:14was
- 6:14the
- 6:14first
- 6:15time
- 6:15they
- 6:15had
- 6:15increased
- 6:15the
- 6:16price
- 6:16since
- 6:16like
- 6:16the
- 6:1680s
- 6:17or
- 6:17something.
- 6:18So.
- 6:18And
- 6:19I
- 6:19think
- 6:19it
- 6:19was
- 6:19also
- 6:20kind
- 6:20of
- 6:20in
- 6:20line
- 6:20with
- 6:20the
- 6:21fact
- 6:21that
- 6:21the
- 6:22yen
- 6:22had
- 6:22already
- 6:22weakened
- 6:23by
- 6:23that
- 6:23stage
- 6:23and
- 6:23they
- 6:23were
- 6:24trying
- 6:24to
- 6:24capitalize
- 6:25on
- 6:25tourists
- 6:26increased
- 6:26purchasing
- 6:26power.
- 6:27So
- 6:27I
- 6:27would
- 6:27say
- 6:27from
- 6:28a
- 6:28tourist
- 6:28perspective,
- 6:30I
- 6:30still
- 6:30think
- 6:30it's
- 6:31like
- 6:31a
- 6:31good
- 6:31value
- 6:31pass,
- 6:31but
- 6:32you
- 6:32can
- 6:32obviously
- 6:32arbitrate
- 6:33on
- 6:33that
- 6:33yourself
- 6:33depending
- 6:34on
- 6:34where
- 6:35you
- 6:35plan
- 6:35on
- 6:35going.
- 6:35Right.
- 6:36And
- 6:36it's,
- 6:36and
- 6:36it's
- 6:37a
- 6:38price
- 6:38we
- 6:38should
- 6:39note
- 6:39that
- 6:39the
- 6:40Japanese
- 6:40themselves
- 6:41do
- 6:41not
- 6:41have
- 6:42access
- 6:42to.
- 6:43This
- 6:43pass
- 6:44is
- 6:44only
- 6:44for
- 6:45tourists,
- 6:45which,
- 6:46you
- 6:46know,
- 6:46is
- 6:46an
- 6:47interesting
- 6:47thing.
- 6:48Usually
- 6:48there's
- 6:49something
- 6:49that
- 6:49we
- 6:50think
- 6:50of
- 6:50as
- 6:50the
- 6:50tourist
- 6:51tax
- 6:52where
- 6:52tourists
- 6:53are
- 6:53charged
- 6:54more.
- 6:54This
- 6:55has
- 6:55always
- 6:55been
- 6:55a
- 6:55very
- 6:56generous
- 6:56program,
- 6:57I
- 6:57thought,
- 6:58on
- 6:59behalf
- 6:59of
- 6:59the
- 6:59railroad.
- 7:00Yeah,
- 7:00that's
- 7:00true.
- 7:01I
- 7:01mean
- 7:01I've,
- 7:01I've
- 7:02always,
- 7:03I
- 7:03mean
- 7:03recently
- 7:04actually
- 7:04I
- 7:04lost
- 7:04my
- 7:05visa
- 7:05for
- 7:05the
- 7:06first
- 7:06time.
- 7:06So
- 7:06the
- 7:06next
- 7:06time
- 7:07I
- 7:07go
- 7:07back
- 7:07to
- 7:07Japan,
- 7:07I
- 7:07will
- 7:08be
- 7:08there
- 7:08as
- 7:08a
- 7:08tourist.
- 7:08But
- 7:10it
- 7:10means
- 7:10that
- 7:10I've
- 7:10never
- 7:10had
- 7:11access
- 7:11to
- 7:11this
- 7:11past
- 7:12myself.
- 7:12And
- 7:12I've
- 7:12always,
- 7:13always
- 7:13been
- 7:13jealous
- 7:14when
- 7:14people
- 7:14come
- 7:14to
- 7:14visit
- 7:15and
- 7:15they're
- 7:15doing
- 7:15these,
- 7:15you
- 7:16know,
- 7:16kind
- 7:16of
- 7:17wild,
- 7:17you
- 7:18know,
- 7:18trips
- 7:18all
- 7:18around
- 7:18the
- 7:19country
- 7:19and
- 7:19any
- 7:19time
- 7:20I
- 7:20join
- 7:20them
- 7:20I
- 7:20have
- 7:21to.
- 7:21Yeah,
- 7:21pay
- 7:22the,
- 7:22pay
- 7:22the
- 7:22standard
- 7:23fare.
- 7:23So
- 7:23yeah,
- 7:24it
- 7:24is,
- 7:24it's
- 7:24great.
- 7:25I
- 7:25mean
- 7:25there
- 7:25are,
- 7:26I
- 7:26would
- 7:26say
- 7:26tourists
- 7:27are
- 7:27taxed
- 7:27in
- 7:28other
- 7:28ways,
- 7:28but
- 7:28when
- 7:29it
- 7:29comes
- 7:29to
- 7:30riding
- 7:31the
- 7:31bullet
- 7:31train.
- 7:32Yeah,
- 7:32they,
- 7:33they
- 7:33certainly
- 7:33get
- 7:33a
- 7:34good
- 7:34deal.
- 7:34Well,
- 7:35before
- 7:35I
- 7:35let
- 7:35you
- 7:35go
- 7:36on
- 7:36that,
- 7:36how
- 7:36are,
- 7:37how
- 7:37are
- 7:37tourists
- 7:37taxed
- 7:38in
- 7:38other
- 7:38ways,
- 7:39would
- 7:39you
- 7:39say?
- 7:40There's
- 7:41been
- 7:41quite
- 7:42a
- 7:42lot
- 7:42in
- 7:42the
- 7:42news
- 7:43over
- 7:43the
- 7:43past
- 7:44couple
- 7:44years
- 7:45about
- 7:46over
- 7:46tourism
- 7:47in
- 7:47Japan
- 7:47and
- 7:49particular,
- 7:49I
- 7:49guess
- 7:50what
- 7:50one
- 7:50good
- 7:50example
- 7:51to
- 7:51use
- 7:51is
- 7:51himeji
- 7:52Castle,
- 7:53which
- 7:54is
- 7:54probably
- 7:55the
- 7:55most
- 7:55beautiful
- 7:56castle
- 7:56in
- 7:57Japan.
- 7:57It's
- 7:57largely
- 7:58viewed
- 7:58as
- 7:58that.
- 7:58Like,
- 7:58it's
- 7:59just
- 7:59really
- 7:59stunning.
- 7:59It's
- 8:00in
- 8:00this
- 8:00city
- 8:00that's
- 8:01between
- 8:01Kobe
- 8:02and
- 8:02Hiroshima.
- 8:03A
- 8:03lot
- 8:03of
- 8:03people
- 8:04go
- 8:04to
- 8:04Himeji
- 8:05just
- 8:05to
- 8:05see
- 8:05the
- 8:05castle.
- 8:06You
- 8:06know,
- 8:06the.
- 8:07I
- 8:07think
- 8:07it
- 8:07was
- 8:08the
- 8:08city
- 8:08mayor
- 8:09I'm
- 8:09trying
- 8:09to
- 8:09remember
- 8:09now,
- 8:10but
- 8:10someone
- 8:10from
- 8:11officialdom
- 8:11was
- 8:12basically
- 8:12trying
- 8:12to
- 8:13make
- 8:14tourists
- 8:14pay
- 8:15five
- 8:15times
- 8:15the
- 8:16amount
- 8:16that
- 8:16locals
- 8:16would
- 8:17pay.
- 8:17Wow.
- 8:18Which
- 8:19in
- 8:19some
- 8:19respects
- 8:20it's
- 8:20like,
- 8:20well,
- 8:20that
- 8:20seems
- 8:21like
- 8:21a
- 8:21huge
- 8:21hike.
- 8:22But
- 8:22at
- 8:22the
- 8:22same
- 8:23time,
- 8:23if
- 8:24I
- 8:24think
- 8:24if
- 8:24the
- 8:25purpose
- 8:25of
- 8:25it
- 8:25is
- 8:25to
- 8:26only
- 8:27entice
- 8:28people
- 8:28who
- 8:28really
- 8:28want
- 8:28to
- 8:29go
- 8:29and
- 8:29see
- 8:29the
- 8:29castle,
- 8:30rather
- 8:30than
- 8:30people
- 8:30who
- 8:30are
- 8:30walking
- 8:31past
- 8:31going,
- 8:31I'll
- 8:31go
- 8:31in,
- 8:32because
- 8:32it's
- 8:32only
- 8:32whatever,
- 8:33500,
- 8:331,000
- 8:33yen
- 8:34to
- 8:34see
- 8:34it.
- 8:34I
- 8:35think
- 8:35if
- 8:35it's
- 8:35used
- 8:35in
- 8:35that
- 8:36way,
- 8:36and
- 8:36therefore
- 8:37it
- 8:37does
- 8:37manage
- 8:38the
- 8:38crowds
- 8:38a
- 8:38little
- 8:38bit,
- 8:39I
- 8:39don't
- 8:40have
- 8:40much
- 8:40of
- 8:40a
- 8:40problem
- 8:40with
- 8:41it.
- 8:41But
- 8:41at
- 8:41the
- 8:41same
- 8:41time,
- 8:42you
- 8:42know,
- 8:42there
- 8:43is
- 8:43the
- 8:43moral
- 8:43aspect
- 8:44of,
- 8:44well,
- 8:44if
- 8:44we
- 8:44start
- 8:44levying
- 8:45that
- 8:45everywhere
- 8:45and
- 8:45tourists
- 8:46have
- 8:46to
- 8:46pay
- 8:46crazy
- 8:46money
- 8:47for
- 8:47everything,
- 8:47you
- 8:47know,
- 8:48that's
- 8:48its
- 8:48own
- 8:48issue.
- 8:48But
- 8:49that's
- 8:49just
- 8:49one
- 8:50example.
- 8:50And
- 8:50I
- 8:50think
- 8:51some
- 8:51restaurants
- 8:52were
- 8:52floating.
- 8:53In
- 8:53fact,
- 8:53I
- 8:53think
- 8:53some
- 8:54restaurants
- 8:54actually
- 8:54did
- 8:54implement
- 8:55that,
- 8:55but
- 8:56different
- 8:56prices
- 8:57on.
- 8:57The
- 8:57English
- 8:58language
- 8:58menu
- 8:59or
- 8:59how
- 8:59did
- 8:59it
- 8:59work?
- 9:00Well,
- 9:01some
- 9:01of
- 9:01them
- 9:01were
- 9:01caught
- 9:02sneakily
- 9:02doing
- 9:02that,
- 9:03unfortunately.
- 9:03But
- 9:04I
- 9:05think
- 9:05there
- 9:06were
- 9:06some
- 9:06restaurants
- 9:07in
- 9:07smaller
- 9:08towns
- 9:08and
- 9:08stuff
- 9:09that
- 9:09basically
- 9:09said
- 9:09locals
- 9:10will
- 9:10only
- 9:10pay
- 9:11this
- 9:11price
- 9:11and
- 9:12non
- 9:12locals
- 9:13will
- 9:13pay
- 9:13a
- 9:13bit
- 9:13more.
- 9:14It
- 9:14certainly
- 9:14hasn't
- 9:15caught
- 9:15fire
- 9:15and
- 9:16spread
- 9:16all
- 9:16around
- 9:16the
- 9:17country,
- 9:17but
- 9:17there
- 9:18are
- 9:18little
- 9:18stories
- 9:19like
- 9:19that.
- 9:19And
- 9:20as
- 9:20there
- 9:20is
- 9:21some
- 9:22growing
- 9:22kind
- 9:23of
- 9:23unrest
- 9:23in
- 9:23certain
- 9:24corners
- 9:24of
- 9:24the
- 9:24country
- 9:24about
- 9:25the
- 9:25amount
- 9:25of
- 9:25foreigners
- 9:26coming
- 9:26in
- 9:28on
- 9:28a
- 9:28yearly
- 9:29basis
- 9:29and
- 9:29the
- 9:29numbers
- 9:29increasing
- 9:30each
- 9:30year,
- 9:30then
- 9:31stories
- 9:32like
- 9:32that
- 9:32will
- 9:32be
- 9:32in
- 9:32the
- 9:32news.
- 9:33But
- 9:33I
- 9:34don't.
- 9:34I
- 9:34don't
- 9:34expect
- 9:35that
- 9:35to
- 9:35be
- 9:35implemented
- 9:36on
- 9:36a.
- 9:36On
- 9:36a
- 9:36broad
- 9:37scale
- 9:37anytime
- 9:37soon.
- 9:38Interesting.
- 9:39All
- 9:39right,
- 9:39we'll
- 9:39go
- 9:39back
- 9:39to
- 9:40saving
- 9:40money.
- 9:40So
- 9:40you
- 9:41save
- 9:41money
- 9:42by
- 9:42getting
- 9:42the
- 9:43bullet
- 9:43train
- 9:43pass
- 9:44or
- 9:44the
- 9:45train
- 9:45pass,
- 9:45which
- 9:46covers
- 9:46a
- 9:47lot
- 9:47of
- 9:47different
- 9:47trains.
- 9:48You
- 9:48also
- 9:49need
- 9:49to
- 9:49save
- 9:49money
- 9:50on
- 9:51accommodations,
- 9:53but
- 9:53there
- 9:53are
- 9:54hotels
- 9:55or
- 9:56hotel
- 9:56types
- 9:57that
- 9:57don't
- 9:58exist.
- 9:59Other
- 9:59places
- 10:00like
- 10:00capsule
- 10:01hotels,
- 10:02do
- 10:02you
- 10:02recommend
- 10:03those
- 10:03for
- 10:04visitors
- 10:05and
- 10:05can
- 10:05you
- 10:05give
- 10:05a
- 10:06definition
- 10:06of
- 10:06what
- 10:06those
- 10:07are,
- 10:07or
- 10:07is
- 10:07that
- 10:08really
- 10:08just
- 10:08for
- 10:08Japanese
- 10:09businessmen?
- 10:10Well,
- 10:10that's
- 10:10how
- 10:11they
- 10:11started.
- 10:11They
- 10:11were
- 10:12kind
- 10:12of
- 10:13advertised
- 10:14as
- 10:14these.
- 10:15Yeah,
- 10:16kind
- 10:16of
- 10:16stopover
- 10:17places
- 10:17for
- 10:17Japanese
- 10:18businessmen.
- 10:18Like
- 10:19if
- 10:19you
- 10:19go
- 10:19to
- 10:19some
- 10:20of
- 10:20the
- 10:20old
- 10:20ones,
- 10:21they
- 10:21still
- 10:21have,
- 10:22like
- 10:22corded
- 10:22telephones
- 10:23and
- 10:23you
- 10:23know,
- 10:24stuff
- 10:24that
- 10:24a
- 10:24businessman
- 10:25might
- 10:25need,
- 10:25you
- 10:25know,
- 10:26when
- 10:26he's
- 10:26overnighting.
- 10:27They're
- 10:27still
- 10:28used
- 10:28by
- 10:29younger
- 10:30tourists,
- 10:30I
- 10:30would
- 10:30say.
- 10:31I
- 10:31don't
- 10:32mind
- 10:32them
- 10:32on
- 10:33occasion
- 10:33as
- 10:33like
- 10:34maybe
- 10:35to
- 10:35like
- 10:35show
- 10:35someone.
- 10:36Like
- 10:36I
- 10:36see
- 10:36it
- 10:36as
- 10:37more
- 10:37of
- 10:37a
- 10:37novelty
- 10:37thing.
- 10:38Like
- 10:38I,
- 10:38personally,
- 10:39I
- 10:39wouldn't
- 10:40book
- 10:40one
- 10:40myself
- 10:41typically
- 10:41if
- 10:41I
- 10:42was
- 10:42going
- 10:42somewhere.
- 10:42But
- 10:43it's
- 10:43worth
- 10:44seeing.
- 10:44I
- 10:44mean
- 10:45we
- 10:45should
- 10:45define
- 10:46what
- 10:46these
- 10:46are
- 10:46before
- 10:46we
- 10:47go
- 10:47further.
- 10:48Can,
- 10:48can
- 10:48you
- 10:48give
- 10:48a,
- 10:49a
- 10:49description?
- 10:50Yeah,
- 10:51I
- 10:51mean,
- 10:51I
- 10:51guess
- 10:52the
- 10:52best
- 10:52visual
- 10:53aid
- 10:53I
- 10:53can
- 10:53give
- 10:54is
- 10:54like,
- 10:54you
- 10:54know,
- 10:54imagine
- 10:55like
- 10:55a
- 10:55morgue
- 10:55was
- 10:55a
- 10:56hotel.
- 10:56It's
- 10:56got
- 10:57these
- 10:57kind
- 10:57of
- 10:57like
- 10:58lines
- 10:59rather
- 10:59than
- 10:59pull
- 11:00out
- 11:00drawers.
- 11:00They're
- 11:01just
- 11:01sort
- 11:01of
- 11:01like
- 11:01little
- 11:02kind
- 11:02of
- 11:02cubby
- 11:03holes
- 11:03that
- 11:03you
- 11:03enter
- 11:04into
- 11:04and
- 11:05you
- 11:05have
- 11:06the
- 11:06entire
- 11:06space
- 11:07is,
- 11:07is
- 11:07just
- 11:08a
- 11:08bed
- 11:09with
- 11:09maybe
- 11:10like
- 11:10a
- 11:10side
- 11:10shelf.
- 11:11No,
- 11:11you
- 11:11can't
- 11:12stand
- 11:12up.
- 11:12Maybe
- 11:13there's
- 11:13like
- 11:13a
- 11:13side
- 11:13shelf
- 11:14and
- 11:15there'll
- 11:15be
- 11:15a
- 11:16charging
- 11:16station
- 11:16or
- 11:16whatever.
- 11:17And
- 11:18down
- 11:18the
- 11:18hall
- 11:18somewhere
- 11:19will
- 11:19be
- 11:19the
- 11:20locker
- 11:20area
- 11:21where
- 11:21you
- 11:21can
- 11:22put
- 11:22your
- 11:22bag
- 11:22and
- 11:22all
- 11:22that
- 11:22kind
- 11:23of
- 11:23stuff.
- 11:23So
- 11:24is
- 11:24there,
- 11:24is
- 11:24it
- 11:25curtained
- 11:25off
- 11:25or
- 11:26is
- 11:26there
- 11:26more
- 11:27of
- 11:27a
- 11:27solid
- 11:27door
- 11:28to
- 11:28your
- 11:29cubby?
- 11:29It
- 11:30depends.
- 11:30A
- 11:30lot
- 11:30of
- 11:30them
- 11:31would
- 11:31have
- 11:32kind
- 11:32of
- 11:32like,
- 11:32you
- 11:32know,
- 11:32pull
- 11:33down
- 11:33blinds
- 11:34which
- 11:35you
- 11:35sort
- 11:35of
- 11:35hook
- 11:36at
- 11:36the
- 11:36bottom.
- 11:36I
- 11:37mean
- 11:37they
- 11:37are
- 11:37quite.
- 11:38They're
- 11:38private
- 11:38in
- 11:39a
- 11:39sense.
- 11:39It's
- 11:40sort
- 11:40of
- 11:40like
- 11:40a
- 11:40hostel
- 11:41room,
- 11:41but
- 11:41a
- 11:41bit
- 11:42more
- 11:42private.
- 11:42That
- 11:43also
- 11:43means
- 11:43it
- 11:43has
- 11:44the
- 11:44attended
- 11:45noise
- 11:45that
- 11:46you
- 11:46get
- 11:46in
- 11:46a
- 11:46hostel
- 11:46room
- 11:47but
- 11:48times
- 11:48by
- 11:48perhaps,
- 11:49you
- 11:49know,
- 11:49a
- 11:50factor
- 11:50of
- 11:5010
- 11:50because
- 11:50maybe
- 11:51there's
- 11:5140
- 11:51people
- 11:51sleeping
- 11:52in
- 11:52the
- 11:52area.
- 11:53So
- 11:54you
- 11:54hear
- 11:54every,
- 11:55you
- 11:55know,
- 11:55snore
- 11:56and
- 11:56fart
- 11:56and
- 11:56burp
- 11:57and
- 11:57you
- 11:57know,
- 11:58rustling
- 11:58pillow
- 11:59and
- 11:59all
- 11:59the
- 11:59rest
- 11:59of
- 12:00it.
- 12:00But
- 12:01yeah,
- 12:01I
- 12:01mean,
- 12:01I
- 12:01guess
- 12:02it's
- 12:02kind
- 12:02of
- 12:02like
- 12:02an
- 12:03interesting
- 12:03thing
- 12:03to
- 12:04maybe
- 12:04stay
- 12:04in.
- 12:05They're
- 12:05cheap,
- 12:06like
- 12:06certainly
- 12:06cheaper
- 12:07than
- 12:07most
- 12:07other
- 12:07accommodation
- 12:08options.
- 12:09If
- 12:09you've
- 12:09got
- 12:10one
- 12:10night
- 12:10in
- 12:10a
- 12:11place
- 12:11like
- 12:11I
- 12:11think,
- 12:11you
- 12:12know
- 12:12and
- 12:12you
- 12:12want
- 12:12to
- 12:12check
- 12:12it
- 12:12out,
- 12:13why
- 12:13not
- 12:13give
- 12:13it
- 12:13a
- 12:13go,
- 12:14right?
- 12:14You
- 12:15know,
- 12:15what's
- 12:15the
- 12:15worst
- 12:15that
- 12:15could
- 12:15happen
- 12:16kind
- 12:16of
- 12:16thing.
- 12:16If
- 12:17you
- 12:17are
- 12:17claustrophobic
- 12:18or
- 12:18you
- 12:18really
- 12:18like,
- 12:19you
- 12:19know,
- 12:19home
- 12:20comforts
- 12:20and
- 12:20things
- 12:21like
- 12:21that,
- 12:21maybe
- 12:22give
- 12:22them
- 12:22a
- 12:22miss.
- 12:23Another
- 12:23thing
- 12:23actually
- 12:24is
- 12:24a
- 12:24lot
- 12:24of
- 12:24them
- 12:24have
- 12:25like,
- 12:25they're
- 12:26basically
- 12:26designed
- 12:26for
- 12:27one
- 12:27night
- 12:27stays
- 12:27so
- 12:28that
- 12:28if
- 12:28you're
- 12:29between
- 12:30the
- 12:30usual
- 12:30checkout
- 12:31and
- 12:31check
- 12:31in
- 12:31time,
- 12:31you
- 12:32would
- 12:32have
- 12:32to
- 12:32take
- 12:32all
- 12:32of
- 12:32your
- 12:32stuff
- 12:33out
- 12:33of
- 12:33it
- 12:33and
- 12:33back
- 12:33in
- 12:33again.
- 12:34Oh
- 12:34wow.
- 12:35Which
- 12:35is
- 12:35super
- 12:35inconvenient.
- 12:36That
- 12:36kind
- 12:36of
- 12:36defeats
- 12:37the
- 12:37purpose
- 12:37of
- 12:37staying
- 12:37in
- 12:38a
- 12:38hotel
- 12:38to
- 12:38begin
- 12:38with.
- 12:39Right,
- 12:39right.
- 12:39So,
- 12:40yeah,
- 12:41yeah.
- 12:41I
- 12:41mean,
- 12:41I.
- 12:42I
- 12:42see
- 12:42them
- 12:42more
- 12:42as,
- 12:43like,
- 12:43kind
- 12:43of,
- 12:43you
- 12:43know,
- 12:43curiosities
- 12:44than
- 12:45something
- 12:45I'd
- 12:46like
- 12:46to
- 12:46stay
- 12:46in
- 12:46with
- 12:46any
- 12:47regularity.
- 12:47But,
- 12:47you
- 12:48know,
- 12:48to
- 12:48each
- 12:48their
- 12:48own.
- 12:49Yeah.
- 12:50One
- 12:50of
- 12:50the
- 12:50things
- 12:50that
- 12:51surprisingly,
- 12:51isn't
- 12:52expensive
- 12:52in
- 12:53Japan,
- 12:53I
- 12:53found
- 12:54when
- 12:54I've
- 12:54been
- 12:54there,
- 12:54I've
- 12:55been
- 12:55there
- 12:55a
- 12:55couple
- 12:55of
- 12:55times,
- 12:56is
- 12:57food.
- 12:58You
- 12:58can
- 12:58get
- 12:59very
- 12:59decent
- 13:00food
- 13:00in
- 13:01convenience
- 13:02stores.
- 13:02You
- 13:03can
- 13:03get
- 13:03a
- 13:03wonderful
- 13:04meal
- 13:05for
- 13:06less
- 13:06than
- 13:06the
- 13:07equivalent
- 13:07of
- 13:08$10
- 13:08at
- 13:09a
- 13:09noodle
- 13:09place.
- 13:10That,
- 13:10to
- 13:10me,
- 13:11is
- 13:11not
- 13:11one
- 13:12of
- 13:12the
- 13:13major
- 13:13expenses.
- 13:14Were
- 13:14you
- 13:14going
- 13:15to
- 13:15give
- 13:15another
- 13:15tip
- 13:16for
- 13:16saving
- 13:16money?
- 13:17Did
- 13:17I
- 13:17cut
- 13:17you
- 13:17off
- 13:18with
- 13:18the
- 13:18capsule
- 13:19hotels?
- 13:20No,
- 13:20I
- 13:20mean,
- 13:20I
- 13:21guess
- 13:21just
- 13:21to
- 13:21finish
- 13:22off
- 13:22on
- 13:22the
- 13:22accommodation
- 13:23point.
- 13:23It's
- 13:23like
- 13:23a
- 13:23very
- 13:24sort
- 13:24of
- 13:24brief
- 13:24point.
- 13:24But
- 13:25there
- 13:25are
- 13:25some
- 13:26really
- 13:26nice
- 13:27chain
- 13:27hotels
- 13:28you
- 13:28can
- 13:28stay
- 13:28in.
- 13:29Like,
- 13:29one
- 13:29of
- 13:29the
- 13:29most
- 13:30famous
- 13:30ones
- 13:30is
- 13:30Apa
- 13:31or
- 13:31Apa,
- 13:33another
- 13:33one
- 13:33called
- 13:34My
- 13:34Stays.
- 13:35And
- 13:35they're
- 13:35like
- 13:36just
- 13:36basic,
- 13:37you
- 13:37know,
- 13:37chain
- 13:37hotels,
- 13:38but
- 13:38done
- 13:38well.
- 13:39You
- 13:39know,
- 13:39I
- 13:39would
- 13:39say
- 13:40they're.
- 13:40They're
- 13:40pretty
- 13:40comfortable.
- 13:40The
- 13:41amenities
- 13:41are
- 13:41quite
- 13:41good,
- 13:42and
- 13:42it's
- 13:42often
- 13:42a
- 13:42good
- 13:42way
- 13:43to
- 13:43cut
- 13:43costs
- 13:43rather
- 13:43than
- 13:44staying
- 13:44in
- 13:44maybe
- 13:44a
- 13:44nice
- 13:45kind
- 13:45of
- 13:45boutique
- 13:45accommodation
- 13:46or
- 13:46something
- 13:47that's
- 13:47a
- 13:47bit
- 13:47fancier
- 13:48in
- 13:48one
- 13:49of
- 13:49the
- 13:50more
- 13:50popular
- 13:50areas.
- 13:51But,
- 13:51yeah,
- 13:51on.
- 13:51On
- 13:52food.
- 13:52Yeah,
- 13:52I
- 13:52mean,
- 13:53I
- 13:53completely
- 13:53agree.
- 13:53I
- 13:53think
- 13:54Japanese
- 13:54food
- 13:54is,
- 13:55for
- 13:55me,
- 13:56it's.
- 13:56It's
- 13:56probably
- 13:56the
- 13:57greatest
- 13:57food
- 13:57culture
- 13:58on
- 13:58earth.
- 13:58There
- 13:58are
- 13:58certainly
- 13:59a
- 13:59couple
- 13:59that
- 13:59could
- 13:59give
- 13:59it
- 14:00a
- 14:00run
- 14:00for
- 14:00its
- 14:00money.
- 14:00And
- 14:01I'm
- 14:01probably
- 14:01biased
- 14:02given
- 14:02the
- 14:02amount
- 14:02of
- 14:02time
- 14:03I've
- 14:03spent
- 14:03there.
- 14:03But
- 14:04part
- 14:04of
- 14:04what
- 14:04impressed
- 14:05me
- 14:05about
- 14:05it
- 14:05is
- 14:05the,
- 14:06you
- 14:06know,
- 14:06when
- 14:06I
- 14:07moved
- 14:07there,
- 14:07I
- 14:07thought
- 14:07it
- 14:07was
- 14:07like
- 14:08sushi
- 14:08and
- 14:08ramen.
- 14:08I
- 14:09didn't
- 14:09really
- 14:09know
- 14:09that
- 14:10was
- 14:10kind
- 14:10of
- 14:10like
- 14:10the
- 14:10extent
- 14:11of
- 14:11my
- 14:11Japanese
- 14:12culinary
- 14:12knowledge.
- 14:13But
- 14:13there's
- 14:13amazing
- 14:14depth
- 14:14and
- 14:14complexity.
- 14:15And
- 14:15like,
- 14:16every
- 14:16region
- 14:16will
- 14:17have
- 14:17a
- 14:17mei
- 14:17butsu,
- 14:18which
- 14:18is
- 14:18sort
- 14:19of
- 14:19like
- 14:19a
- 14:19regional
- 14:20specialty.
- 14:21Usually
- 14:21it's
- 14:22some
- 14:22kind
- 14:22of
- 14:22food.
- 14:22It
- 14:23might
- 14:23just
- 14:23be
- 14:23like
- 14:23noodles
- 14:24made
- 14:24a
- 14:24certain
- 14:24way
- 14:25or
- 14:25a
- 14:25certain
- 14:26type
- 14:26of,
- 14:26you
- 14:26know,
- 14:27pounded
- 14:28rice
- 14:28cake,
- 14:29or
- 14:29maybe
- 14:30it's
- 14:30like
- 14:30a
- 14:30certain
- 14:31fish
- 14:31or,
- 14:31you
- 14:31know,
- 14:32beef
- 14:32that
- 14:32they
- 14:32do
- 14:32a
- 14:33certain
- 14:33way.
- 14:33Often
- 14:33they'll
- 14:34have
- 14:34multiple,
- 14:34you
- 14:34know,
- 14:35specialities.
- 14:36So
- 14:37that
- 14:37aspect
- 14:37of
- 14:37it,
- 14:38really,
- 14:38of
- 14:38it
- 14:38is
- 14:39really
- 14:39cool,
- 14:39as
- 14:39is
- 14:40the
- 14:40fact
- 14:40that
- 14:40you
- 14:40can
- 14:40get
- 14:41good
- 14:41food
- 14:41at
- 14:42every
- 14:42price
- 14:43range.
- 14:43So
- 14:43like
- 14:44you
- 14:44said,
- 14:44you
- 14:44can
- 14:44go
- 14:44to,
- 14:45you
- 14:45know,
- 14:45some
- 14:45of
- 14:46the
- 14:46best
- 14:46ramen
- 14:46shops
- 14:47you'll
- 14:47ever
- 14:47eat
- 14:47in
- 14:47in
- 14:47your
- 14:47life,
- 14:48and
- 14:48you're
- 14:48paying
- 14:4810
- 14:49bucks,
- 14:49maybe
- 14:50current
- 14:50exchange
- 14:51probably
- 14:51less
- 14:51for
- 14:51a
- 14:51bowl
- 14:52of
- 14:52ramen.
- 14:52That's
- 14:53a
- 14:53big,
- 14:53hearty
- 14:53plate
- 14:53of
- 14:54food,
- 14:54you
- 14:54know,
- 14:54that's
- 14:54been
- 14:55simmering
- 14:55for
- 14:5614
- 14:56hours
- 14:57or
- 14:57something
- 14:57like
- 14:57that.
- 14:57You
- 14:58know,
- 14:58it's
- 14:58like,
- 14:59it's
- 14:59incredible
- 14:59really,
- 15:00what
- 15:00you
- 15:00can
- 15:00get
- 15:00for
- 15:01very
- 15:01little
- 15:02money.
- 15:02Then,
- 15:02of
- 15:02course,
- 15:02you've
- 15:03got
- 15:03the
- 15:03super
- 15:03expensive
- 15:04sushi
- 15:04restaurants,
- 15:05you've
- 15:05got,
- 15:05you
- 15:05know,
- 15:07all
- 15:07that
- 15:07kind
- 15:08of
- 15:08stuff.
- 15:08Yeah.
- 15:08And
- 15:09in
- 15:09Tokyo
- 15:09alone,
- 15:09you
- 15:10know,
- 15:10there's
- 15:10like
- 15:10300
- 15:10plus
- 15:11Michelin
- 15:11stars
- 15:12across
- 15:12however
- 15:12many
- 15:12restaurants.
- 15:13Might
- 15:13even
- 15:13be
- 15:14more
- 15:14than
- 15:14that.
- 15:14Might
- 15:15even
- 15:15be
- 15:15500
- 15:15across
- 15:16300
- 15:16restaurants.
- 15:17I
- 15:17can't
- 15:17remember
- 15:17exactly,
- 15:18but
- 15:18it's
- 15:18a
- 15:18lot.
- 15:18It's
- 15:19the
- 15:19most
- 15:19in
- 15:19the
- 15:19world
- 15:19anyway.
- 15:20So
- 15:20you've
- 15:21got
- 15:21a
- 15:21lot
- 15:21of
- 15:21stuff
- 15:21at
- 15:21that
- 15:22end
- 15:22of
- 15:22the
- 15:22spectrum.
- 15:23And
- 15:23like
- 15:23you
- 15:23mentioned,
- 15:23even
- 15:24the
- 15:24convenience
- 15:24store
- 15:25foods,
- 15:25like
- 15:25in,
- 15:26in
- 15:26the
- 15:26UK
- 15:26and
- 15:27from
- 15:27my
- 15:27experience
- 15:27in
- 15:28America,
- 15:28you
- 15:28know,
- 15:28if
- 15:28you
- 15:29went
- 15:29to
- 15:29711
- 15:29or
- 15:30something
- 15:30like
- 15:30that,
- 15:30if
- 15:31they
- 15:31have
- 15:31a
- 15:31hot,
- 15:31hot
- 15:31food
- 15:32counter,
- 15:32the
- 15:32food's
- 15:33usually
- 15:33pretty
- 15:33bad.
- 15:34Oh,
- 15:34terrible.
- 15:35Being
- 15:35charitable.
- 15:36Yeah,
- 15:36yeah.
- 15:37Get
- 15:37you
- 15:37sick
- 15:38bad.
- 15:38Yeah,
- 15:38yeah.
- 15:39Whereas
- 15:39in
- 15:39Japan,
- 15:40that
- 15:40food
- 15:41is
- 15:41obviously,
- 15:41it's
- 15:42very
- 15:42cheap,
- 15:42you
- 15:42know,
- 15:43because
- 15:43of
- 15:43the,
- 15:44the
- 15:44type
- 15:44of
- 15:44food
- 15:45that
- 15:45is.
- 15:45But
- 15:45like
- 15:45the
- 15:45hot
- 15:45chicken,
- 15:46actually
- 15:47really
- 15:47good.
- 15:47Yeah.
- 15:48The
- 15:48sandwiches
- 15:48are
- 15:49nice.
- 15:49They
- 15:49might
- 15:50be
- 15:50filled
- 15:50with
- 15:50msg,
- 15:51but,
- 15:51you
- 15:51know,
- 15:51you're
- 15:51never
- 15:51going
- 15:52to
- 15:52get
- 15:52the
- 15:52healthiest
- 15:52food
- 15:53in
- 15:53a,
- 15:53in
- 15:53a
- 15:53convenience
- 15:54store
- 15:54to
- 15:54begin
- 15:54with.
- 15:55But,
- 15:55Right.
- 15:56Like
- 15:56they're
- 15:56famous
- 15:57to
- 15:57the
- 15:57point
- 15:57that
- 15:58there's
- 15:58loads
- 15:58of
- 15:58YouTube
- 15:59vlogs
- 16:00and
- 16:00stuff
- 16:00that
- 16:00cover
- 16:01the
- 16:01kind
- 16:01of
- 16:01subculture
- 16:02of
- 16:02Japanese
- 16:03convenience
- 16:03store
- 16:04food.
- 16:04So
- 16:05if
- 16:05you're
- 16:05interested,
- 16:05it's
- 16:06worth
- 16:06going
- 16:06to
- 16:06check
- 16:06some
- 16:07of
- 16:07them
- 16:07out.
- 16:07You
- 16:07know,
- 16:07it's
- 16:08like
- 16:08they
- 16:08do
- 16:09fruit
- 16:09sandwiches
- 16:10and
- 16:10all
- 16:11these,
- 16:11you
- 16:11know,
- 16:11strange
- 16:12flavors
- 16:12of
- 16:12Kit
- 16:13Kats
- 16:13and
- 16:13things
- 16:13like
- 16:14that.
- 16:14And
- 16:14yeah,
- 16:15like.
- 16:15And
- 16:16they're
- 16:16all
- 16:16open
- 16:1624
- 16:177,
- 16:17so
- 16:17a
- 16:17great
- 16:17place
- 16:17to
- 16:18stop
- 16:18late
- 16:18at
- 16:18night,
- 16:18you
- 16:19know,
- 16:19if
- 16:19you
- 16:19need
- 16:19a.
- 16:19Need
- 16:19a
- 16:20bite
- 16:20to
- 16:20eat
- 16:20before
- 16:20you
- 16:20go
- 16:20to
- 16:20bed
- 16:21or
- 16:21whatever.
- 16:21Now,
- 16:22in
- 16:22terms
- 16:22of
- 16:22regional
- 16:23specialties,
- 16:24going
- 16:24back
- 16:24to
- 16:25that
- 16:25briefly,
- 16:25is
- 16:26there
- 16:26a
- 16:26region
- 16:26you
- 16:27think
- 16:27that
- 16:27has
- 16:27the
- 16:27best
- 16:28food
- 16:28in
- 16:28Japan
- 16:29or
- 16:29the
- 16:29most
- 16:29interesting?
- 16:30Wow.
- 16:31Yeah,
- 16:31that's
- 16:32a
- 16:32good
- 16:32question.
- 16:33I
- 16:33mean,
- 16:33the
- 16:33boring
- 16:34answer
- 16:34is
- 16:34probably
- 16:35Tokyo.
- 16:36Just
- 16:36because
- 16:36it's
- 16:36got,
- 16:37I
- 16:37think,
- 16:37the
- 16:38greatest,
- 16:39it's
- 16:39got
- 16:39the
- 16:40most
- 16:40innovation
- 16:40in
- 16:40food.
- 16:41Like,
- 16:41Japan
- 16:42is
- 16:43quite
- 16:43steadfastly
- 16:44against
- 16:44change
- 16:44when
- 16:45it
- 16:45comes
- 16:45to
- 16:45cultural
- 16:45traditions.
- 16:46Whereas
- 16:46if
- 16:47you
- 16:47look
- 16:47at
- 16:47like
- 16:47the
- 16:47ramen
- 16:48space
- 16:48in
- 16:48Tokyo,
- 16:48there's
- 16:48lots
- 16:49of
- 16:49really
- 16:49innovative
- 16:49things
- 16:50going
- 16:50on.
- 16:51Lots
- 16:51of
- 16:51the
- 16:52kind
- 16:52of
- 16:52best
- 16:52modern
- 16:53fine
- 16:53dining
- 16:53restaurants
- 16:54there
- 16:54are
- 16:54not
- 16:55these
- 16:55sort
- 16:56of
- 16:56super
- 16:56serious,
- 16:57you
- 16:57know,
- 16:57have
- 16:58no
- 16:58fun,
- 16:58eat
- 16:58the
- 16:59food,
- 16:59buy
- 17:00say
- 17:00thank
- 17:00you
- 17:00and
- 17:00then
- 17:00get
- 17:01the
- 17:01hell
- 17:01out
- 17:01of
- 17:01here
- 17:01type
- 17:01places
- 17:02which
- 17:02used
- 17:02to
- 17:03be
- 17:03like
- 17:03the
- 17:03entire
- 17:04kind
- 17:04of
- 17:04upper
- 17:04end
- 17:05of
- 17:05the,
- 17:05the
- 17:05dining
- 17:05market
- 17:06in
- 17:06Japan.
- 17:06In
- 17:07Tokyo
- 17:07there's
- 17:07a
- 17:07lot
- 17:07more
- 17:07kind
- 17:08of
- 17:08like
- 17:08very
- 17:08homely
- 17:09places
- 17:09that
- 17:10are
- 17:10still
- 17:10serving
- 17:10food
- 17:11that's
- 17:11like
- 17:111,
- 17:112
- 17:11Michelin
- 17:12star
- 17:12quality,
- 17:13you
- 17:13know.
- 17:14So
- 17:14that's
- 17:14the
- 17:14kind
- 17:14of
- 17:14boring
- 17:15answer
- 17:15I'm
- 17:15trying
- 17:15to
- 17:15think
- 17:15of,
- 17:16you
- 17:16know,
- 17:16something
- 17:16that's
- 17:16maybe
- 17:17a
- 17:17bit
- 17:17more
- 17:17interesting.
- 17:18Oh,
- 17:19Kyotango
- 17:20is
- 17:20a
- 17:21cool
- 17:21area.
- 17:22It's,
- 17:22it's
- 17:23part
- 17:23of
- 17:23Kyoto
- 17:23prefecture,
- 17:24but
- 17:25if
- 17:25you
- 17:25go
- 17:25to
- 17:25the
- 17:25kind
- 17:26of
- 17:26the
- 17:26coastal
- 17:27area,
- 17:28so
- 17:28I'm
- 17:28just
- 17:28called
- 17:28Kyoto
- 17:29by
- 17:29the
- 17:29sea
- 17:29actually.
- 17:30And
- 17:31they
- 17:32produce
- 17:32a
- 17:32lot
- 17:32of
- 17:32foods
- 17:33there
- 17:33with
- 17:34koji,
- 17:34which
- 17:35is
- 17:35the
- 17:35fungal
- 17:36mold
- 17:36that,
- 17:37that's
- 17:37used
- 17:37in
- 17:37like
- 17:37sake
- 17:38production
- 17:39and
- 17:39stuff.
- 17:39And
- 17:39it
- 17:39has
- 17:40I
- 17:40think
- 17:40more
- 17:40than
- 17:40100
- 17:41enzymes
- 17:42that
- 17:42facilitate
- 17:43digestion.
- 17:44So
- 17:44there's
- 17:45lots
- 17:45of
- 17:45really
- 17:45good,
- 17:45like
- 17:45miso,
- 17:46soy
- 17:47sauce,
- 17:48rice
- 17:48wine
- 17:49vinegar.
- 17:49They
- 17:50produce
- 17:50a
- 17:50lot
- 17:50of
- 17:50that
- 17:51stuff
- 17:51there.
- 17:51And
- 17:51then
- 17:51obviously
- 17:51they
- 17:52serve
- 17:52it
- 17:52with
- 17:52the
- 17:52different
- 17:52rice
- 17:53noodle,
- 17:53you
- 17:53know,
- 17:53dishes,
- 17:54etc.
- 17:54Fish
- 17:55that
- 17:55they
- 17:55make
- 17:56in
- 17:56the
- 17:56region.
- 17:56But
- 17:57that
- 17:57fungal
- 17:58mokouji
- 17:59is
- 17:59supposedly
- 18:00really
- 18:00beneficial
- 18:00to
- 18:01longevity.
- 18:02So
- 18:03Okinawa
- 18:03is
- 18:03usually
- 18:04the
- 18:04most
- 18:04famous
- 18:04place
- 18:05for
- 18:05centenarians
- 18:06or
- 18:06people
- 18:06that
- 18:07live
- 18:07beyond
- 18:07100
- 18:08in
- 18:08Japan.
- 18:08But
- 18:08there
- 18:09was
- 18:09a
- 18:09study
- 18:10in
- 18:102019,
- 18:11albeit
- 18:11I
- 18:11think
- 18:11with
- 18:11a
- 18:12smaller
- 18:12sample
- 18:12size,
- 18:13that
- 18:13found
- 18:13that
- 18:13in
- 18:13Kil
- 18:14Tango
- 18:14they
- 18:14have
- 18:14almost
- 18:15three
- 18:15times
- 18:15as
- 18:16many
- 18:16centenarians
- 18:18as
- 18:18the
- 18:18national
- 18:19average.
- 18:20And
- 18:20the
- 18:21oldest
- 18:21guy
- 18:21that
- 18:21ever
- 18:22lived
- 18:22actually
- 18:23lived
- 18:23there
- 18:24as
- 18:24well.
- 18:24He
- 18:24was
- 18:24116
- 18:25when
- 18:25he
- 18:25died.
- 18:26Born.
- 18:26Oh
- 18:26my
- 18:27goodness.
- 18:27Yeah,
- 18:27he
- 18:27lived
- 18:28through
- 18:28three
- 18:28centuries.
- 18:29Yeah,
- 18:29born
- 18:29in
- 18:291897,
- 18:31died
- 18:31in
- 18:312013.
- 18:32Kind
- 18:32of
- 18:32amazing,
- 18:33right?
- 18:34Yeah.
- 18:34So
- 18:35yeah,
- 18:35a
- 18:35lot
- 18:35of
- 18:35the
- 18:35locals,
- 18:35if
- 18:36you
- 18:36speak
- 18:36to
- 18:36like,
- 18:36you
- 18:36know,
- 18:36local
- 18:37producers
- 18:37and
- 18:38stuff
- 18:38down
- 18:38there,
- 18:38like
- 18:39food
- 18:39producers,
- 18:40they'll
- 18:40always
- 18:41credit
- 18:41koji
- 18:42as
- 18:42like
- 18:42the
- 18:43kind
- 18:43of
- 18:43the,
- 18:43I
- 18:44don't
- 18:44know,
- 18:44the,
- 18:44the
- 18:45elixir
- 18:45of,
- 18:45you
- 18:45know,
- 18:46long
- 18:46life
- 18:46or
- 18:46whatever.
- 18:47Right.
- 18:48And
- 18:48just
- 18:48as
- 18:49an
- 18:49aside,
- 18:49if
- 18:49anyone
- 18:49wants
- 18:50to
- 18:50visit
- 18:50that
- 18:51region,
- 18:51there's
- 18:51a
- 18:51woman
- 18:51called
- 18:52Junko
- 18:52Hamilton
- 18:53who's
- 18:54Japanese,
- 18:55grew
- 18:55up
- 18:55in
- 18:55the
- 18:55Kyoto
- 18:56area,
- 18:56but
- 18:56she
- 18:56lived
- 18:57in
- 18:57Ireland
- 18:57for
- 18:5710
- 18:57years
- 18:58and
- 18:58she
- 18:58runs
- 18:59cooking
- 19:00classes
- 19:00and
- 19:00can
- 19:00kind
- 19:01of
- 19:01explain
- 19:01all
- 19:01this
- 19:01stuff
- 19:02to
- 19:02you
- 19:02and
- 19:02fluent
- 19:02English
- 19:03and
- 19:03yeah,
- 19:04you'll
- 19:04get
- 19:04to
- 19:04cook
- 19:05foods
- 19:05with
- 19:06koji
- 19:06and
- 19:06try
- 19:07different
- 19:07koji
- 19:08made
- 19:08products.
- 19:09The
- 19:09restaurant
- 19:10called
- 19:10Table.
- 19:11Table.
- 19:11Table
- 19:12is
- 19:12the
- 19:12name
- 19:12of
- 19:12the
- 19:12restaurant,
- 19:13but
- 19:13I
- 19:13think
- 19:13it's
- 19:13T
- 19:14A
- 19:14B
- 19:14L
- 19:15E
- 19:15T
- 19:15A
- 19:15B
- 19:16E
- 19:16L
- 19:16or
- 19:16that's
- 19:17the
- 19:17other
- 19:17way
- 19:17around.
- 19:17I
- 19:18can't
- 19:18remember,
- 19:18but
- 19:19it's
- 19:19in
- 19:19the
- 19:19book.
- 19:19If
- 19:19you
- 19:19buy,
- 19:20if
- 19:20you
- 19:20buy
- 19:20the
- 19:20book,
- 19:20you'll
- 19:20find
- 19:20it.
- 19:21Get
- 19:21the
- 19:21book.
- 19:21Get
- 19:22the
- 19:22book.
- 19:23That's
- 19:23what
- 19:23we're
- 19:23here
- 19:23to
- 19:24say.
- 19:24Now,
- 19:24you
- 19:25were
- 19:25talking
- 19:25a
- 19:25Moment
- 19:26ago
- 19:26about
- 19:26YouTube,
- 19:27YouTubers
- 19:29doing
- 19:29convenience
- 19:30store
- 19:31food
- 19:32videos,
- 19:33which
- 19:33brings
- 19:33us
- 19:33to
- 19:34the
- 19:34pop
- 19:35culture
- 19:35side
- 19:36of
- 19:36Japan.
- 19:37You
- 19:37have
- 19:37a
- 19:37beautiful
- 19:38phrase
- 19:38in
- 19:38the
- 19:39book.
- 19:39You
- 19:39say
- 19:39it's
- 19:39their
- 19:40soft
- 19:40power
- 19:41basically
- 19:42that
- 19:42the
- 19:42whole
- 19:42world
- 19:42has
- 19:43been
- 19:43taken
- 19:43over
- 19:43by
- 19:44anime
- 19:45and
- 19:45manga
- 19:45and
- 19:46other
- 19:47Japanese
- 19:48incredibly
- 19:49creative
- 19:49ways
- 19:50of
- 19:50seeing
- 19:50the
- 19:50world.
- 19:51It
- 19:51used
- 19:52to
- 19:52be
- 19:52that
- 19:52people
- 19:52went
- 19:53to
- 19:53Japan
- 19:54strictly
- 19:54to
- 19:54visit
- 19:55temples
- 19:55and
- 19:56have
- 19:56kaiseki
- 19:57meals
- 19:57and
- 19:58indulge
- 19:58in
- 19:59traditional
- 19:59Japanese
- 20:00culture.
- 20:00But
- 20:01now
- 20:01a
- 20:01lot
- 20:01of
- 20:01people
- 20:02go
- 20:02there
- 20:03to
- 20:03see
- 20:03what's
- 20:03happening
- 20:04on
- 20:04the
- 20:04cutting
- 20:04edge,
- 20:05what's
- 20:05happening
- 20:05in
- 20:06youth
- 20:06culture,
- 20:06what's
- 20:07happening
- 20:07in
- 20:08these
- 20:08new
- 20:09artistic
- 20:10expressions.
- 20:11So
- 20:11if
- 20:11people
- 20:12are
- 20:12interested
- 20:13in
- 20:13that
- 20:14side
- 20:14of
- 20:14Japan,
- 20:15where
- 20:15do
- 20:16they
- 20:16go?
- 20:16What
- 20:16do
- 20:16they
- 20:16do?
- 20:17Yeah,
- 20:19it's
- 20:19an
- 20:19interesting
- 20:19trend,
- 20:20isn't
- 20:20it?
- 20:20I
- 20:20mean,
- 20:20I'm
- 20:20kind
- 20:20of
- 20:21of
- 20:21that
- 20:21generation,
- 20:21you
- 20:21know,
- 20:22I'm
- 20:2231,
- 20:22so
- 20:23I'm
- 20:24that
- 20:24generation
- 20:24that
- 20:25grew
- 20:25up
- 20:25playing
- 20:26Pokemon,
- 20:27you
- 20:27know,
- 20:27getting
- 20:27Pokemon
- 20:28cards
- 20:28in
- 20:28Yu
- 20:28Gi.
- 20:28Oh,
- 20:29all
- 20:29that
- 20:29kind
- 20:29of
- 20:29stuff.
- 20:29So
- 20:30I
- 20:30was
- 20:30certainly
- 20:31influenced
- 20:31that
- 20:32by
- 20:32that
- 20:32stuff
- 20:33myself.
- 20:34So
- 20:34I
- 20:34get,
- 20:34I
- 20:34do
- 20:34get
- 20:35the,
- 20:35the
- 20:36incentive
- 20:36to
- 20:37travel
- 20:37to
- 20:37Japan
- 20:37to
- 20:37kind
- 20:38of
- 20:38see
- 20:38that
- 20:38side
- 20:38of
- 20:38it.
- 20:39Like
- 20:39a
- 20:39lot
- 20:39of
- 20:39things,
- 20:39Tokyo
- 20:40is
- 20:40sort
- 20:40of
- 20:40the
- 20:40beating
- 20:41heart
- 20:41of
- 20:41that,
- 20:42particularly
- 20:42an
- 20:42area
- 20:43called
- 20:43Akihabara,
- 20:44which
- 20:44to
- 20:45anyone
- 20:45who
- 20:46has
- 20:46done
- 20:46any
- 20:47research
- 20:47about
- 20:47like
- 20:47pop
- 20:48culture
- 20:48Japan
- 20:48will
- 20:49have
- 20:49come
- 20:49across
- 20:49that
- 20:49place.
- 20:50It's,
- 20:50it's
- 20:50the
- 20:50Mecca,
- 20:51you
- 20:51know,
- 20:52and
- 20:52it's
- 20:52just
- 20:52a
- 20:52cool
- 20:53area
- 20:53in
- 20:53general.
- 20:54You
- 20:54know,
- 20:54it's
- 20:54like
- 20:54a
- 20:54big
- 20:54thoroughfare,
- 20:56just
- 20:56neon
- 20:57lights,
- 20:57you
- 20:57know,
- 20:57on
- 20:57either
- 20:57side
- 20:58and
- 20:58filled
- 20:59with
- 20:59arcades
- 20:59and
- 21:00retro,
- 21:00retro
- 21:01game
- 21:01stores,
- 21:02all
- 21:02that
- 21:02kind
- 21:03of
- 21:03stuff.
- 21:03Another
- 21:04area
- 21:04of
- 21:04Tokyo
- 21:04that's
- 21:05quite
- 21:05famous,
- 21:06particularly
- 21:06for
- 21:07women
- 21:07is
- 21:07called
- 21:07Otome
- 21:08Road,
- 21:09which
- 21:09literally
- 21:09means
- 21:10maiden
- 21:10Road.
- 21:11And
- 21:11it's
- 21:11in
- 21:12Ikebukuro,
- 21:13which
- 21:13is
- 21:13sort
- 21:13of
- 21:13north
- 21:14west
- 21:14ish
- 21:15of
- 21:15the
- 21:16city.
- 21:16And
- 21:16it's
- 21:17particularly
- 21:18famous
- 21:18for
- 21:18doujinshi,
- 21:19which
- 21:19are
- 21:20like
- 21:20basically
- 21:21fanzines.
- 21:22So
- 21:23the
- 21:23sort
- 21:23of
- 21:23thing
- 21:23that
- 21:24if
- 21:24it
- 21:24was,
- 21:25if
- 21:25it
- 21:25was
- 21:25in
- 21:26America
- 21:26or
- 21:27the
- 21:27uk,
- 21:28it
- 21:28would,
- 21:29these
- 21:29things
- 21:30would
- 21:30fall
- 21:30out
- 21:30of
- 21:30every
- 21:31copyright
- 21:32law
- 21:32of
- 21:32the
- 21:32legislature.
- 21:33Like
- 21:33they're,
- 21:34they're,
- 21:34they're
- 21:34completely
- 21:35illegal.
- 21:35But
- 21:36loads
- 21:36of
- 21:36doujinshi
- 21:37artists
- 21:37are
- 21:37really
- 21:37talented,
- 21:38so
- 21:39the
- 21:39industry
- 21:39just
- 21:39kind
- 21:40of
- 21:40lets
- 21:40it
- 21:40pass.
- 21:41And
- 21:41then
- 21:41sometimes
- 21:42they
- 21:42co
- 21:42opt
- 21:42those.
- 21:43Before
- 21:44we
- 21:44go
- 21:44further,
- 21:44fan
- 21:45zines.
- 21:46So
- 21:47these
- 21:47are
- 21:47magazines
- 21:48made
- 21:48by
- 21:49fans
- 21:50in
- 21:50the
- 21:50style
- 21:51of
- 21:51more
- 21:51Famous
- 21:52artists.
- 21:53Is
- 21:53that
- 21:53the
- 21:53way
- 21:54to
- 21:54put
- 21:54it?
- 21:54Yeah,
- 21:55I
- 21:55think
- 21:55so.
- 21:55I
- 21:56guess
- 21:56the.
- 21:56Yeah,
- 21:57I
- 21:57guess
- 21:57that's
- 21:57how
- 21:57I
- 21:57would
- 21:57put
- 21:58it.
- 21:58Yeah.
- 21:58And
- 21:58often
- 21:59you
- 21:59might
- 21:59get,
- 21:59for
- 22:00example,
- 22:01a
- 22:01character
- 22:01from
- 22:02one
- 22:02famous
- 22:03series
- 22:03and
- 22:04a
- 22:04character
- 22:04for
- 22:04another
- 22:04famous
- 22:05series,
- 22:06and
- 22:06the
- 22:06fanzine
- 22:07will
- 22:07be
- 22:07those
- 22:07two
- 22:08characters
- 22:08in
- 22:08some
- 22:09kind
- 22:09of
- 22:09romantic
- 22:09relationship
- 22:10or
- 22:10whatever.
- 22:11I
- 22:11see.
- 22:12So
- 22:12this
- 22:12is
- 22:12the
- 22:12area
- 22:13where
- 22:13they're
- 22:13produced.
- 22:14But
- 22:14why
- 22:14would
- 22:15a
- 22:15visitor
- 22:15go
- 22:16there?
- 22:16Would
- 22:16they
- 22:17experience
- 22:18any
- 22:18of
- 22:18this
- 22:18culture
- 22:19there?
- 22:20So
- 22:20this
- 22:20is
- 22:20the
- 22:21area
- 22:21where
- 22:21the.
- 22:21Yeah,
- 22:22the
- 22:22shops
- 22:22are
- 22:22that
- 22:23sell
- 22:23those.
- 22:23Oh,
- 22:24I
- 22:25see.
- 22:25I
- 22:25see.
- 22:26Yeah.
- 22:26So
- 22:26it's
- 22:26famous
- 22:27for.
- 22:27For
- 22:27that,
- 22:27actually,
- 22:28and
- 22:28also
- 22:28for
- 22:28cosplay.
- 22:29So,
- 22:29you
- 22:30know,
- 22:30lots
- 22:30of
- 22:30women
- 22:31especially,
- 22:31again,
- 22:31would
- 22:31go
- 22:32and
- 22:32buy
- 22:32costumes
- 22:33of
- 22:33their
- 22:33favorite
- 22:34anime
- 22:34and
- 22:35manga
- 22:35heroines.
- 22:36And
- 22:36then
- 22:37in
- 22:38that
- 22:38same
- 22:38area
- 22:38in
- 22:38Ikebukuro,
- 22:39there's
- 22:39a
- 22:39Halloween
- 22:40cosplay
- 22:40festival.
- 22:41So
- 22:42if
- 22:42you're
- 22:42there
- 22:42that
- 22:43time
- 22:43of
- 22:43year
- 22:43and
- 22:43you're
- 22:43into
- 22:43cosplay,
- 22:44that's
- 22:44the
- 22:44place
- 22:45to
- 22:45go
- 22:45to
- 22:45both
- 22:45get
- 22:46your.
- 22:47Get
- 22:47your
- 22:47gear
- 22:47on
- 22:47to
- 22:48flaunt
- 22:48it
- 22:48on
- 22:48the
- 22:49street,
- 22:49I
- 22:49guess.
- 22:50Wow.
- 22:50So
- 22:51thousands
- 22:51of
- 22:51people
- 22:52in
- 22:53crazy
- 22:53costumes
- 22:54all
- 22:54over
- 22:55the
- 22:55place.
- 22:55Yeah,
- 22:58so,
- 22:58yeah.
- 22:59Yeah,
- 23:00it
- 23:00is.
- 23:01You
- 23:01know,
- 23:01it's
- 23:02like
- 23:02there's
- 23:02obviously
- 23:02huge
- 23:03songs.
- 23:03I
- 23:03mean,
- 23:03even
- 23:03the
- 23:03word
- 23:04cosplay,
- 23:04like,
- 23:04we
- 23:04kind
- 23:05of
- 23:05think
- 23:05of
- 23:05it
- 23:05as
- 23:05like
- 23:05an
- 23:06English
- 23:06word,
- 23:06but
- 23:07it
- 23:07was
- 23:07actually
- 23:08a
- 23:08Japanese
- 23:09portmanteau
- 23:10of
- 23:10two
- 23:10English
- 23:10words,
- 23:10like
- 23:11kosuple,
- 23:11you
- 23:12know.
- 23:13Yeah.
- 23:14Which
- 23:14I
- 23:14already
- 23:14discovered
- 23:15that
- 23:15not
- 23:15that
- 23:15long
- 23:15ago.
- 23:16And
- 23:16I
- 23:16was.
- 23:16What
- 23:16does
- 23:16cost
- 23:17mean,
- 23:17though?
- 23:18I'm
- 23:18not
- 23:18sure.
- 23:19They've
- 23:19taken
- 23:19the
- 23:19English
- 23:20words
- 23:20costume
- 23:21and
- 23:21play
- 23:21and
- 23:21just
- 23:22squeeze
- 23:22them
- 23:22together
- 23:22into
- 23:23their
- 23:23own
- 23:23words.
- 23:23Yeah.
- 23:24Oh,
- 23:25wow.
- 23:26I
- 23:26didn't
- 23:26know
- 23:26that.
- 23:27I
- 23:27just
- 23:27thought
- 23:28it
- 23:28meant,
- 23:29like,
- 23:29duo
- 23:29play,
- 23:30like
- 23:30co
- 23:31play.
- 23:31But
- 23:31no,
- 23:32it's
- 23:32costume
- 23:33play.
- 23:33Oh,
- 23:33yeah.
- 23:34That's
- 23:34an
- 23:34interesting
- 23:34way
- 23:35to
- 23:35think
- 23:35of
- 23:35it
- 23:36etymologically,
- 23:36actually.
- 23:37Yeah.
- 23:37I
- 23:37guess
- 23:38I
- 23:38hadn't.
- 23:38I
- 23:38just
- 23:38hadn't
- 23:39questioned
- 23:39it.
- 23:39It's
- 23:39like,
- 23:39you
- 23:39know,
- 23:39when
- 23:40you
- 23:40hear
- 23:40and
- 23:40see
- 23:40a
- 23:41word
- 23:41enough,
- 23:41you
- 23:41just.
- 23:42It
- 23:42just
- 23:43is
- 23:43that
- 23:43word.
- 23:43It
- 23:43was
- 23:43only
- 23:44probably
- 23:44about
- 23:45a
- 23:45year
- 23:45or
- 23:45so
- 23:45ago
- 23:46myself
- 23:46that
- 23:46I
- 23:46realized
- 23:47it
- 23:47was
- 23:47of
- 23:48Japanese
- 23:48origin.
- 23:49Japanese
- 23:49English
- 23:49origin,
- 23:50if
- 23:50that
- 23:50makes
- 23:50sense.
- 23:51Yeah,
- 23:52Very
- 23:52interesting.
- 23:53And
- 23:53I
- 23:53have
- 23:54a
- 23:54dear
- 23:54friend,
- 23:54Mike
- 23:55Foster,
- 23:56who
- 23:56is
- 23:56a
- 23:57professor
- 23:57of
- 23:58Japanese
- 23:58mythology,
- 24:00and
- 24:01he's
- 24:01written
- 24:01a
- 24:01whole
- 24:02bunch
- 24:02of
- 24:02books
- 24:02on
- 24:03the
- 24:03fact
- 24:03that
- 24:04we
- 24:04are
- 24:05seeing
- 24:05mythology
- 24:06being
- 24:06created
- 24:07in
- 24:07real
- 24:07time
- 24:08in
- 24:08Japan.
- 24:09You
- 24:09know,
- 24:09we
- 24:09think
- 24:09of
- 24:09mythology
- 24:10as
- 24:10being
- 24:11something
- 24:11that
- 24:11maybe
- 24:12was
- 24:12part
- 24:12of
- 24:12religion
- 24:13eons
- 24:14ago
- 24:14and
- 24:15is
- 24:15something
- 24:15in
- 24:16the
- 24:16past.
- 24:17And
- 24:17in
- 24:17Japan,
- 24:18he
- 24:18feels
- 24:19that
- 24:19what's
- 24:19going
- 24:20on
- 24:20with
- 24:20this
- 24:21very
- 24:21intense
- 24:22Culture
- 24:23around
- 24:25what
- 24:25we'd
- 24:25call
- 24:25cartoons
- 24:27is
- 24:27actually
- 24:28a
- 24:28rejiggering
- 24:29of
- 24:30the
- 24:30mythological
- 24:32hierarchies
- 24:33of
- 24:34the
- 24:34Japanese
- 24:36mind.
- 24:37Yeah,
- 24:37that's.
- 24:38Yeah,
- 24:38that's
- 24:38interesting.
- 24:38I
- 24:38mean,
- 24:39a
- 24:39lot
- 24:39of
- 24:39these
- 24:39places,
- 24:40you
- 24:40know,
- 24:40in
- 24:40the
- 24:40same
- 24:41vein,
- 24:41they
- 24:41do
- 24:41feel
- 24:41like
- 24:42temples
- 24:42to
- 24:43Japanese
- 24:44pop
- 24:44culture
- 24:45to
- 24:45different
- 24:45series.
- 24:46I
- 24:46mean,
- 24:46a
- 24:46good
- 24:46example
- 24:47actually
- 24:47to
- 24:47throw
- 24:48in
- 24:48another
- 24:48one
- 24:48is
- 24:49Kyoto.
- 24:50Just
- 24:50outside
- 24:50Kyoto,
- 24:51they
- 24:51recently
- 24:52opened
- 24:53the
- 24:53Nintendo
- 24:54Museum.
- 24:55It's
- 24:55just
- 24:55the
- 24:55first
- 24:55sort
- 24:56of
- 24:56museum
- 24:56of
- 24:56its
- 24:56kind.
- 24:57And
- 24:57it
- 24:57really
- 24:57does
- 24:57feel
- 24:57like
- 24:58a.
- 24:59Almost
- 24:59like
- 24:59a
- 24:59religious,
- 25:00you
- 25:00know,
- 25:01ode
- 25:02to
- 25:02this
- 25:03very
- 25:03storied
- 25:04Japanese
- 25:05video
- 25:05game
- 25:06maker,
- 25:06console,
- 25:07developer.
- 25:07And
- 25:08it's
- 25:08a
- 25:08really
- 25:08cool
- 25:08experience
- 25:09that
- 25:09getting
- 25:10a
- 25:10ticket
- 25:10for
- 25:10it
- 25:10is
- 25:11a
- 25:11nightmare.
- 25:11You've
- 25:11got
- 25:11to
- 25:12go
- 25:12through
- 25:12this
- 25:12sort
- 25:12of
- 25:12convoluted
- 25:13lottery
- 25:14system
- 25:14and
- 25:15then
- 25:15call
- 25:15a
- 25:15Japanese
- 25:16number
- 25:17and
- 25:18then
- 25:18you
- 25:19get
- 25:19your
- 25:19ticket
- 25:19sent
- 25:20by
- 25:20QR
- 25:20code.
- 25:21Oh
- 25:22my
- 25:22goodness.
- 25:22A
- 25:22couple
- 25:22days
- 25:23before.
- 25:23Yeah,
- 25:23it's,
- 25:23it's
- 25:24a
- 25:24pain.
- 25:24But
- 25:24the,
- 25:24the
- 25:25one
- 25:25advantage
- 25:25of
- 25:26that
- 25:26is
- 25:26that
- 25:28they
- 25:28have
- 25:28very
- 25:29controlled
- 25:29numbers
- 25:30that
- 25:30can
- 25:30be
- 25:30in
- 25:30the
- 25:31museum
- 25:31at
- 25:31any
- 25:31one
- 25:31time,
- 25:32which
- 25:32obviously
- 25:32benefits
- 25:33the
- 25:33user
- 25:34experience.
- 25:34And
- 25:35also
- 25:35in
- 25:35the,
- 25:35the
- 25:36main
- 25:36top
- 25:36floor,
- 25:37which
- 25:37is
- 25:38kind
- 25:38of
- 25:38all
- 25:38the
- 25:38archives
- 25:39of
- 25:39all
- 25:39the
- 25:39old
- 25:40games
- 25:40and
- 25:41peripherals
- 25:41and
- 25:42box
- 25:42arts
- 25:43and
- 25:43destruction
- 25:43manuals,
- 25:43all
- 25:44that
- 25:44kind
- 25:44of
- 25:44stuff.
- 25:44You
- 25:45can't
- 25:45take
- 25:45any
- 25:45photos
- 25:46in
- 25:46there,
- 25:46which
- 25:46I
- 25:46think
- 25:47is
- 25:47great
- 25:47because
- 25:48otherwise
- 25:48it
- 25:48would
- 25:48just
- 25:49be
- 25:49selfie
- 25:49sticks
- 25:50everywhere
- 25:50and
- 25:50influencers
- 25:51blocking
- 25:52all
- 25:52of
- 25:52the
- 25:52displays
- 25:52and
- 25:52all
- 25:52that
- 25:53kind
- 25:53of
- 25:53stuff.
- 25:53That's
- 25:53not
- 25:53to
- 25:54be
- 25:54sports
- 25:54influencers,
- 25:55but,
- 25:55you
- 25:55know.
- 25:56Yeah,
- 25:56I've
- 25:56experienced
- 25:57that
- 25:57enough
- 25:57times
- 25:57in
- 25:57places
- 25:58like
- 25:58that
- 25:58that
- 25:58I
- 25:58think
- 25:58that's
- 25:58what
- 25:59would
- 25:59have,
- 25:59that's
- 25:59what
- 25:59would
- 26:00have
- 26:00happened.
- 26:00So
- 26:01before
- 26:01you
- 26:01go
- 26:01on
- 26:01from
- 26:02that,
- 26:02so
- 26:02it
- 26:03sounds
- 26:03like
- 26:03a
- 26:03really
- 26:04difficult
- 26:05process.
- 26:05Is
- 26:05it
- 26:06all
- 26:06in
- 26:06Japanese
- 26:07or
- 26:07can
- 26:07Americans.
- 26:08Can
- 26:08non
- 26:09Japanese
- 26:09speakers
- 26:10go
- 26:11to
- 26:11this
- 26:11museum?
- 26:12Yeah,
- 26:12yeah,
- 26:13it's
- 26:13an,
- 26:13it's
- 26:13an
- 26:14English.
- 26:14Like,
- 26:15I
- 26:15think
- 26:15it's
- 26:16kind
- 26:16of
- 26:17created
- 26:18as
- 26:18the
- 26:18experience
- 26:19for
- 26:20the
- 26:20wider
- 26:21J
- 26:21tourism
- 26:21market,
- 26:22I
- 26:22would
- 26:22say
- 26:22as
- 26:22a
- 26:22lot
- 26:23of
- 26:23modern
- 26:24museums
- 26:25and
- 26:25things
- 26:25are
- 26:25built
- 26:25with
- 26:25that
- 26:26in
- 26:26mind.
- 26:28So,
- 26:28yeah,
- 26:28very,
- 26:28very
- 26:29approachable
- 26:29for
- 26:30English
- 26:30speakers.
- 26:31And
- 26:31as
- 26:31is
- 26:31the,
- 26:32the
- 26:32ticketing
- 26:32system
- 26:33is
- 26:33all
- 26:33in
- 26:33English
- 26:34as
- 26:34well.
- 26:34It's,
- 26:34it's
- 26:35convoluted
- 26:35more
- 26:36from
- 26:36like
- 26:36a
- 26:37design
- 26:37perspective
- 26:38rather
- 26:38than
- 26:38a
- 26:38language
- 26:39perspective.
- 26:40If,
- 26:40I
- 26:40mean
- 26:40for
- 26:40anyone
- 26:41listening
- 26:41who's
- 26:41got
- 26:42any
- 26:42affiliation
- 26:42for
- 26:43Nintendo,
- 26:43I
- 26:43do
- 26:44recommend
- 26:44going
- 26:44because
- 26:44it's
- 26:45a,
- 26:45it's
- 26:45a
- 26:45cool
- 26:45experience.
- 26:46Cool.
- 26:47Okay,
- 26:48now
- 26:48at
- 26:49the
- 26:49very
- 26:49beginning
- 26:49of
- 26:49our
- 26:50talk,
- 26:50you
- 26:51brought
- 26:51up
- 26:52the
- 26:52fact
- 26:52that
- 26:53Japan
- 26:53is
- 26:54getting
- 26:54over
- 26:54touristed,
- 26:55that
- 26:55there
- 26:55are
- 26:56certain
- 26:56areas
- 26:57that
- 26:57are
- 26:57just
- 26:58too
- 26:58Damn
- 26:59crowded
- 27:00to
- 27:00be
- 27:01as
- 27:01enjoyable
- 27:02as
- 27:02they
- 27:02used
- 27:02to
- 27:02be.
- 27:03And
- 27:03I
- 27:03know
- 27:03you
- 27:03took
- 27:03it
- 27:04very
- 27:04seriously,
- 27:05wanting
- 27:06as
- 27:06a
- 27:06guidebook
- 27:07writer,
- 27:07to
- 27:08show
- 27:08that
- 27:08other
- 27:09parts
- 27:09of
- 27:09the
- 27:09country
- 27:10that
- 27:10people
- 27:11don't
- 27:11think
- 27:11of
- 27:11going
- 27:12to
- 27:12are
- 27:13as
- 27:14intriguing,
- 27:14as
- 27:15rewarding
- 27:16to
- 27:16go
- 27:16to.
- 27:17So
- 27:18let's
- 27:18talk
- 27:18about
- 27:18some
- 27:19of
- 27:19the
- 27:19places
- 27:19that
- 27:20people
- 27:20don't
- 27:20think
- 27:20of
- 27:21going
- 27:21to,
- 27:21but
- 27:21really
- 27:21should.
- 27:22Sure,
- 27:23yeah.
- 27:23I
- 27:23think
- 27:24you've
- 27:24got
- 27:24to
- 27:24strike
- 27:24that
- 27:25balance,
- 27:25don't
- 27:25you?
- 27:25You
- 27:25know,
- 27:26if
- 27:26lots
- 27:27of
- 27:27people,
- 27:27especially
- 27:27if
- 27:28they're
- 27:28going
- 27:28to
- 27:28Japan
- 27:29for
- 27:29the
- 27:29first
- 27:29time,
- 27:29they're
- 27:30going
- 27:30to
- 27:30want
- 27:30to
- 27:30go
- 27:30to
- 27:30Tokyo,
- 27:31Kyoto,
- 27:32probably
- 27:32Osaka,
- 27:33maybe
- 27:34Hiroshima,
- 27:34maybe
- 27:35Hakone,
- 27:35something
- 27:36like
- 27:36that.
- 27:36So
- 27:37you've
- 27:37absolutely
- 27:37got
- 27:38to
- 27:38cater
- 27:38to
- 27:38that.
- 27:38But
- 27:39I
- 27:40think
- 27:40also
- 27:40there's
- 27:40some
- 27:40responsibility
- 27:41to
- 27:41kind
- 27:41of
- 27:42show
- 27:42people
- 27:43that
- 27:43Japan
- 27:43is
- 27:43actually
- 27:44a
- 27:44much
- 27:44bigger
- 27:44country
- 27:45than
- 27:45that
- 27:45golden
- 27:46route
- 27:46as
- 27:46it's
- 27:46known.
- 27:47And
- 27:48furthermore,
- 27:49lots
- 27:49of
- 27:49the
- 27:49places,
- 27:50especially
- 27:50smaller
- 27:51places
- 27:51in
- 27:51Japan,
- 27:52are
- 27:52suffering
- 27:52from
- 27:53depopulation
- 27:54and
- 27:54economic
- 27:55malaise
- 27:55and
- 27:56all
- 27:56that
- 27:56kind
- 27:56of
- 27:56stuff.
- 27:56So
- 27:57if
- 27:57you
- 27:57go
- 27:57and
- 27:57visit
- 27:58some
- 27:59of
- 27:59the
- 27:59smaller
- 27:59towns
- 28:00around
- 28:00the
- 28:00country,
- 28:01every
- 28:02dollar
- 28:03yen
- 28:03you
- 28:03spend
- 28:03there
- 28:04actually
- 28:04has
- 28:04a
- 28:04bit
- 28:04of
- 28:04an
- 28:04impact.
- 28:05So
- 28:06from
- 28:06an
- 28:06ethical
- 28:07standpoint
- 28:07as
- 28:07well,
- 28:08I
- 28:08think
- 28:08it's
- 28:08good
- 28:08to
- 28:08try
- 28:09and
- 28:09vary
- 28:10things
- 28:10a
- 28:10little
- 28:10bit
- 28:10when
- 28:10you
- 28:11travel,
- 28:11but,
- 28:11I
- 28:11mean,
- 28:12it's
- 28:12up
- 28:12to
- 28:12the
- 28:12traveler
- 28:12in
- 28:13question.
- 28:13My
- 28:13job
- 28:13is
- 28:14not
- 28:14to
- 28:14tell
- 28:14anybody
- 28:14what
- 28:15to
- 28:15do.
- 28:15Sure.
- 28:16From
- 28:16an
- 28:16ethical
- 28:17standpoint.
- 28:17And
- 28:18would
- 28:18it
- 28:18also
- 28:18be
- 28:19fair
- 28:19to
- 28:19say,
- 28:20from
- 28:20a
- 28:20welcoming
- 28:21standpoint,
- 28:22are
- 28:22they
- 28:23excited
- 28:23to
- 28:23see
- 28:24tourists
- 28:24in
- 28:25a
- 28:25way
- 28:25that
- 28:25maybe
- 28:26folks
- 28:26in
- 28:26Kyoto
- 28:27and
- 28:27Tokyo
- 28:28won't
- 28:28be?
- 28:29Yeah,
- 28:29for
- 28:29sure.
- 28:30Just
- 28:30to
- 28:31take
- 28:31an
- 28:31example,
- 28:31from
- 28:31Niyodo
- 28:32in
- 28:32the
- 28:32center
- 28:32of
- 28:32Kochi
- 28:33Prefecture
- 28:33on
- 28:34Shikoku
- 28:34island,
- 28:35they
- 28:35kind
- 28:35of
- 28:35do
- 28:36need
- 28:36you.
- 28:36You
- 28:36know,
- 28:37like
- 28:37every
- 28:38penny
- 28:38you
- 28:38spend
- 28:39there
- 28:39is,
- 28:39like,
- 28:39actually
- 28:40beneficial
- 28:40to
- 28:40the
- 28:40town
- 28:41in
- 28:41a
- 28:41way
- 28:41that,
- 28:42you
- 28:42know,
- 28:42tour
- 28:42buses
- 28:43coming
- 28:43into
- 28:43certain
- 28:43places
- 28:44and
- 28:44just,
- 28:44you
- 28:44know,
- 28:45buying
- 28:45food
- 28:45from
- 28:45a
- 28:45convenience
- 28:46store
- 28:46and
- 28:46drinks
- 28:46from
- 28:46a
- 28:46vending
- 28:47machine.
- 28:47And
- 28:48the.
- 28:48The
- 28:48money
- 28:49kind
- 28:49of
- 28:49doesn't
- 28:49really
- 28:50go
- 28:50to
- 28:50any,
- 28:50like,
- 28:50independent
- 28:51people
- 28:51living
- 28:52in
- 28:52certain
- 28:52areas,
- 28:52if
- 28:53that's
- 28:53kind
- 28:53of
- 28:53the
- 28:53method
- 28:53by
- 28:54which
- 28:54you
- 28:54travel.
- 28:55And
- 28:55to
- 28:55come
- 28:55back
- 28:56to
- 28:56that,
- 28:56that
- 28:56place
- 28:56in
- 28:57the
- 28:57Odo,
- 28:57just
- 28:57to
- 28:57give
- 28:57a
- 28:58bit
- 28:58more.
- 28:58Yeah.
- 28:59Tell
- 28:59us
- 28:59about
- 28:59context
- 29:00as
- 29:00to
- 29:00what
- 29:00it's
- 29:00like.
- 29:01So
- 29:01it's
- 29:01right
- 29:02up
- 29:02in
- 29:02the.
- 29:02The
- 29:02heart
- 29:03of
- 29:03the
- 29:03Kochi
- 29:04Prefecture
- 29:06in
- 29:06the
- 29:06mountains.
- 29:07It's
- 29:07this
- 29:08sort
- 29:08of
- 29:08thundering
- 29:09gorge.
- 29:10And
- 29:10on
- 29:11this
- 29:11little
- 29:11precipice
- 29:12in
- 29:12the
- 29:12gorge,
- 29:12there's
- 29:12a
- 29:13guy
- 29:13called
- 29:13Ken
- 29:14Mukai.
- 29:14He's
- 29:15got
- 29:15a
- 29:15Japanese
- 29:15name,
- 29:15but
- 29:16he's
- 29:16actually
- 29:16from
- 29:16California.
- 29:17I'm
- 29:18not
- 29:18sure
- 29:18what
- 29:18his
- 29:19ancestry
- 29:19is,
- 29:19but
- 29:19he
- 29:20grew
- 29:20up
- 29:20as
- 29:20a.
- 29:21Grew
- 29:21up
- 29:21in
- 29:21California.
- 29:22He
- 29:22taught
- 29:22as
- 29:23a
- 29:23science
- 29:23teacher
- 29:23in
- 29:24the
- 29:24public
- 29:24school
- 29:24system
- 29:25there,
- 29:25and
- 29:25then
- 29:25decided
- 29:26to
- 29:26move
- 29:27to
- 29:27one
- 29:28of
- 29:28the
- 29:28most
- 29:28rural
- 29:28places
- 29:29you
- 29:29could
- 29:29find
- 29:29in
- 29:29Japan
- 29:30to
- 29:30brew
- 29:30beer.
- 29:31So
- 29:31he's
- 29:31got
- 29:31this
- 29:32little
- 29:32tiny
- 29:32microbrewery
- 29:33and
- 29:33tap
- 29:34room
- 29:35literally
- 29:35perched
- 29:36right
- 29:36over
- 29:36this
- 29:36gorge.
- 29:37And
- 29:37the
- 29:37water
- 29:38in
- 29:38the
- 29:38gorge
- 29:38itself
- 29:39is
- 29:39called
- 29:40Neodo
- 29:40Blue,
- 29:41which
- 29:41is.
- 29:42It's
- 29:42kind
- 29:42of
- 29:42like
- 29:42known
- 29:43as
- 29:43that
- 29:43because
- 29:43it's
- 29:44got
- 29:44this,
- 29:44like,
- 29:44very
- 29:44clear,
- 29:46very
- 29:46clean
- 29:46water.
- 29:47Like
- 29:47the
- 29:47artesian
- 29:47springs,
- 29:48I
- 29:48think,
- 29:48are,
- 29:48like,
- 29:48neutral.
- 29:49So
- 29:50basically
- 29:50gives
- 29:50him
- 29:50a
- 29:50canvas
- 29:51to
- 29:51create
- 29:51any
- 29:51beer
- 29:52he
- 29:52wants
- 29:52from
- 29:52it.
- 29:53When
- 29:53I
- 29:53visited
- 29:53him,
- 29:54he
- 29:54was
- 29:54telling
- 29:54me
- 29:54they
- 29:54have
- 29:54like
- 29:55a
- 29:56residence
- 29:56magazine.
- 29:57They
- 29:57get
- 29:57sent
- 29:57out.
- 29:58And
- 29:58since
- 29:58he
- 29:59moved
- 29:59there,
- 30:00which
- 30:00was
- 30:00like
- 30:012020
- 30:01or
- 30:02something,
- 30:02not
- 30:02an
- 30:03auspicious
- 30:03time
- 30:03to
- 30:04move
- 30:04anywhere
- 30:05and
- 30:05start
- 30:05a
- 30:05new
- 30:05business.
- 30:05But
- 30:06since
- 30:06he's
- 30:07moved
- 30:07there,
- 30:08the
- 30:09number
- 30:09of
- 30:09residents
- 30:10per
- 30:10kilometer
- 30:11squared
- 30:11has
- 30:12dropped
- 30:12by
- 30:12like
- 30:12four,
- 30:13I
- 30:13think,
- 30:13from
- 30:14like
- 30:1417
- 30:14to
- 30:1413,
- 30:15something
- 30:15like
- 30:15that.
- 30:15Because
- 30:16they
- 30:16get
- 30:16these
- 30:16figures
- 30:16in
- 30:16the
- 30:17residence
- 30:18magazine
- 30:18I
- 30:18mentioned,
- 30:19and
- 30:19he's
- 30:21named
- 30:21one
- 30:21of
- 30:21his
- 30:21beers
- 30:2218,
- 30:22the
- 30:22number
- 30:2318
- 30:23because
- 30:23he's
- 30:23trying
- 30:24to
- 30:24get
- 30:24the
- 30:24population
- 30:25per
- 30:25square
- 30:26kilometer
- 30:26back
- 30:26up
- 30:26to
- 30:26that
- 30:27number.
- 30:28So,
- 30:28yeah,
- 30:29going
- 30:29somewhere
- 30:29like
- 30:30that,
- 30:30you
- 30:30know,
- 30:30visiting
- 30:30these
- 30:31places,
- 30:31speaking
- 30:31to
- 30:31these
- 30:32people.
- 30:32There's
- 30:32an
- 30:32end
- 30:33just
- 30:33across
- 30:33the
- 30:33bridge,
- 30:34which
- 30:34is
- 30:34at
- 30:34a
- 30:34former
- 30:35elementary
- 30:35school
- 30:36run
- 30:36by
- 30:37the
- 30:37former
- 30:38students.
- 30:39And
- 30:39you
- 30:39kind
- 30:39of
- 30:40get
- 30:40a
- 30:40sense
- 30:40that,
- 30:40like,
- 30:41oh,
- 30:41yeah,
- 30:42me
- 30:42being
- 30:42a
- 30:42tourist
- 30:43here
- 30:43is
- 30:43actually
- 30:44having
- 30:44a
- 30:44positive
- 30:44impact
- 30:45rather
- 30:45than
- 30:46a
- 30:46negative
- 30:47one.
- 30:47Sure,
- 30:47yeah.
- 30:48Or
- 30:48just
- 30:48kind
- 30:48of
- 30:48a
- 30:48scourge.
- 30:49You
- 30:49go
- 30:49there
- 30:49through
- 30:49the
- 30:50brewery.
- 30:50You
- 30:51go
- 30:51there
- 30:51to
- 30:51see
- 30:52the
- 30:52incredible,
- 30:52gorgeous.
- 30:54But
- 30:54I
- 30:54mean,
- 30:55maybe
- 30:56I'm
- 30:56a
- 30:56selfish
- 30:56person.
- 30:57I
- 30:57think
- 30:57that
- 30:58most
- 30:58people
- 30:58won't
- 30:59travel
- 30:59just
- 31:00to
- 31:00be
- 31:00good.
- 31:00You
- 31:01know,
- 31:01it's
- 31:01their
- 31:01time
- 31:01off.
- 31:02So
- 31:02why
- 31:02else
- 31:03do
- 31:03you
- 31:03go
- 31:03there?
- 31:04What
- 31:04are
- 31:04the
- 31:05other
- 31:05attractions?
- 31:05What
- 31:06do
- 31:06you
- 31:06see
- 31:06there
- 31:07and
- 31:07do
- 31:07there
- 31:08that
- 31:08you
- 31:08won't
- 31:09find
- 31:09elsewhere?
- 31:10Yeah,
- 31:10no,
- 31:10that's.
- 31:11That's
- 31:11a
- 31:11good
- 31:11question.
- 31:11A
- 31:12lot
- 31:12of
- 31:12people
- 31:12would
- 31:12sort
- 31:12of
- 31:12raise
- 31:13their
- 31:13eyebrows
- 31:13at
- 31:13that,
- 31:13I
- 31:14guess.
- 31:14I
- 31:15mean,
- 31:15first
- 31:15of
- 31:15all,
- 31:16it's
- 31:16a
- 31:16stunning
- 31:16area
- 31:17to
- 31:17drive
- 31:17through.
- 31:17So
- 31:18if
- 31:18you're
- 31:18able
- 31:18to
- 31:18rent
- 31:19a
- 31:19car.
- 31:19Granted,
- 31:20not
- 31:20everyone
- 31:20is,
- 31:20but
- 31:21if
- 31:21you're
- 31:21able
- 31:22to
- 31:22rent
- 31:22a
- 31:22car,
- 31:22it's
- 31:23really
- 31:23nice
- 31:23driving
- 31:24through
- 31:24that
- 31:24area.
- 31:25There's
- 31:25lots
- 31:25of,
- 31:26like,
- 31:27canyoning
- 31:28activities,
- 31:29rafting,
- 31:30lots
- 31:30of
- 31:30outdoor
- 31:31stuff.
- 31:31You
- 31:31can
- 31:31hike
- 31:31around
- 31:32there.
- 31:33There
- 31:33are
- 31:33onsen
- 31:34hot
- 31:34springs,
- 31:35so
- 31:35you
- 31:35can
- 31:36go
- 31:36and,
- 31:36you
- 31:36know,
- 31:36relax
- 31:37in
- 31:37a.
- 31:37In
- 31:37an
- 31:37outdoor
- 31:38hot
- 31:38spring.
- 31:38So
- 31:39it's
- 31:39more
- 31:39of
- 31:39a.
- 31:40An
- 31:40outdoors
- 31:41person's
- 31:42Kind
- 31:42of
- 31:42a
- 31:42destination.
- 31:43But
- 31:44if
- 31:44that
- 31:44appeals
- 31:44to
- 31:45you,
- 31:45or
- 31:45if
- 31:45you
- 31:45feel
- 31:45like
- 31:45I'm
- 31:46traveling
- 31:46quite
- 31:47a
- 31:47lot
- 31:47in
- 31:47the
- 31:47cities,
- 31:47I
- 31:47wouldn't
- 31:48mind
- 31:48taking
- 31:48like
- 31:484
- 31:49days
- 31:49to
- 31:49just
- 31:49go
- 31:50and
- 31:50get
- 31:50completely
- 31:50off
- 31:50GR.
- 31:51I
- 31:51recommend
- 31:52somewhere
- 31:52like
- 31:52that.
- 31:53And
- 31:53as
- 31:53I
- 31:53said,
- 31:54that's
- 31:54just
- 31:54one
- 31:54of
- 31:54the
- 31:55examples.
- 31:55There
- 31:55are
- 31:55other
- 31:56slightly
- 31:57closer
- 31:57to
- 31:57civilization
- 31:58examples
- 31:58of
- 31:58places
- 31:59where
- 31:59your
- 31:59tourism
- 32:00dollars
- 32:00can
- 32:00have
- 32:01more
- 32:01of
- 32:01a
- 32:01positive
- 32:01impact,
- 32:01I
- 32:02would
- 32:02say,
- 32:02on
- 32:02the
- 32:02local
- 32:02communities.
- 32:03I
- 32:04know
- 32:04also,
- 32:04you
- 32:05know,
- 32:05the
- 32:06Camino
- 32:06de
- 32:06Santiago
- 32:07in
- 32:07Spain
- 32:08has
- 32:09become
- 32:09very,
- 32:09very
- 32:10popular.
- 32:10It's
- 32:11a
- 32:11walking
- 32:11pilgrimage,
- 32:12basically.
- 32:13I've
- 32:14heard
- 32:14there's
- 32:14a
- 32:14temple
- 32:15to
- 32:15temple
- 32:16pilgrimage
- 32:17in
- 32:17Japan
- 32:18now
- 32:18that
- 32:18a
- 32:18lot
- 32:19of
- 32:19people
- 32:19are
- 32:19doing.
- 32:20Do
- 32:20you
- 32:20know
- 32:20about
- 32:20that?
- 32:21Yeah.
- 32:22Well,
- 32:22it's
- 32:22interesting
- 32:23you
- 32:23mentioned
- 32:23the,
- 32:24the
- 32:24Camino
- 32:25because
- 32:26it
- 32:26actually
- 32:26has
- 32:26a
- 32:27sister
- 32:27trail
- 32:28in
- 32:28Japan
- 32:28of
- 32:28Wakayama,
- 32:30which
- 32:30is
- 32:30not
- 32:31the
- 32:31one
- 32:31you're
- 32:31referring
- 32:32to,
- 32:32but
- 32:32I'll
- 32:32come
- 32:32to
- 32:32that
- 32:32in
- 32:32a
- 32:32second.
- 32:33So
- 32:33the
- 32:33one
- 32:33in
- 32:34Wakayama
- 32:34is,
- 32:35I
- 32:36guess
- 32:36the
- 32:36kind
- 32:36of
- 32:37brief
- 32:38version
- 32:38of
- 32:38the
- 32:38story
- 32:39is
- 32:39that
- 32:39it's.
- 32:40It
- 32:40tells
- 32:41the
- 32:41tale
- 32:41of
- 32:42Japan's
- 32:42first
- 32:43emperor
- 32:44who
- 32:44got
- 32:44lost
- 32:44in
- 32:45these
- 32:45mountains.
- 32:46And
- 32:46then
- 32:47a
- 32:47three
- 32:47legged
- 32:48crow
- 32:48lands
- 32:49on
- 32:49a
- 32:49branch.
- 32:50He
- 32:50follows
- 32:51the
- 32:51crow
- 32:52through
- 32:52these
- 32:52mountains
- 32:53and
- 32:53then
- 32:53attacks
- 32:54his
- 32:54enemy
- 32:55with
- 32:55the
- 32:56rising
- 32:56sun
- 32:56at
- 32:56his
- 32:57back.
- 32:57Wins
- 32:58and
- 32:58finds
- 32:59Japan,
- 33:00basically
- 33:00is
- 33:00what
- 33:00happens.
- 33:01So
- 33:01his
- 33:02former
- 33:03route
- 33:03essentially
- 33:04is
- 33:05charted
- 33:05by
- 33:06the
- 33:06sister
- 33:06trail
- 33:07which
- 33:07is
- 33:07called
- 33:07the
- 33:07Kumano
- 33:08Koro,
- 33:08which
- 33:08is
- 33:09in
- 33:09Wakayama,
- 33:09quite
- 33:10close
- 33:10to
- 33:10Osaka.
- 33:10That's
- 33:11actually
- 33:11like
- 33:11a
- 33:11cool
- 33:11one
- 33:12today,
- 33:12which
- 33:12is
- 33:13it
- 33:13doesn't
- 33:13require
- 33:13too
- 33:13much
- 33:14travel
- 33:14away
- 33:15from
- 33:15kind
- 33:15of
- 33:15the
- 33:15main
- 33:17tourism
- 33:17route.
- 33:18And
- 33:19the
- 33:19one
- 33:19you're
- 33:20referring
- 33:20to
- 33:20is
- 33:20the
- 33:20Shikoku
- 33:21pilgrimage,
- 33:21which.
- 33:22But
- 33:22before
- 33:23we
- 33:23leave
- 33:23this
- 33:23one,
- 33:24you
- 33:25mentioned
- 33:25the
- 33:25rising
- 33:26sun.
- 33:27Was
- 33:27this
- 33:28the
- 33:28inspiration
- 33:29for
- 33:29the
- 33:30flag?
- 33:31Yeah,
- 33:31yeah,
- 33:32basically.
- 33:32So
- 33:34the
- 33:34rising
- 33:34sun
- 33:36is
- 33:36a
- 33:36sun
- 33:37goddess
- 33:37called
- 33:37Amaterasu,
- 33:38who's
- 33:39one
- 33:39of
- 33:39the
- 33:39main
- 33:40deities
- 33:40in
- 33:40Shinto
- 33:41mythology,
- 33:42Shinto
- 33:42being
- 33:43the
- 33:43sort
- 33:43of
- 33:43predominant
- 33:45national
- 33:45religion
- 33:46there.
- 33:47Ah,
- 33:47okay.
- 33:48All
- 33:48right.
- 33:48Sorry.
- 33:49Sorry
- 33:49to
- 33:49interrupt
- 33:49you.
- 33:50No,
- 33:50no,
- 33:51you
- 33:51were
- 33:52talking
- 33:52about
- 33:52the
- 33:52other
- 33:52route.
- 33:53Yeah,
- 33:53the
- 33:54Shikoku
- 33:54pilgrimage.
- 33:55So
- 33:55that
- 33:56basically
- 33:56follows
- 33:57the
- 33:57idea.
- 33:58It's
- 33:59kind
- 33:59of
- 33:59a
- 33:59loose
- 33:59idea,
- 34:00but
- 34:00the
- 34:00idea
- 34:00is
- 34:00that
- 34:00Shikoku
- 34:01island
- 34:01is
- 34:01a
- 34:02mandala.
- 34:02So
- 34:03like
- 34:03a
- 34:03Buddhist
- 34:04diagram
- 34:04of
- 34:05eternal
- 34:05spiritual
- 34:06truths
- 34:06or
- 34:06something
- 34:07like
- 34:07that.
- 34:07And
- 34:08there's
- 34:0988
- 34:09temples
- 34:10that
- 34:11kind
- 34:11of
- 34:11go
- 34:11around
- 34:12the
- 34:12island
- 34:12sort
- 34:12of
- 34:12in
- 34:13a
- 34:13circle,
- 34:13a
- 34:13little
- 34:13bit
- 34:13into
- 34:14the
- 34:14middle
- 34:14and
- 34:14then
- 34:14back,
- 34:15back
- 34:15out
- 34:15around
- 34:16to
- 34:16where
- 34:16they
- 34:16started.
- 34:17And
- 34:17they're
- 34:18in
- 34:18honor
- 34:19of
- 34:19a
- 34:20monk
- 34:20known
- 34:20as
- 34:20Kukai
- 34:21or
- 34:21Kobo
- 34:22Daishi.
- 34:22And
- 34:24he
- 34:24didn't
- 34:24actually
- 34:26establish
- 34:26or
- 34:26build
- 34:27all
- 34:27of
- 34:27those
- 34:27temples.
- 34:28I
- 34:28think
- 34:28he
- 34:28maybe
- 34:28established
- 34:29some
- 34:29of
- 34:29them,
- 34:29and
- 34:29then
- 34:30this
- 34:30route
- 34:30sort
- 34:31of
- 34:31formed
- 34:31an
- 34:31honor
- 34:32to
- 34:32him.
- 34:32So
- 34:33lots
- 34:33of
- 34:33people
- 34:33do
- 34:34that,
- 34:34not
- 34:34necessarily
- 34:35because
- 34:35they
- 34:35have
- 34:36any
- 34:36affiliation
- 34:37to.
- 34:38I
- 34:38think
- 34:38it's
- 34:38Shingon
- 34:39Buddhism,
- 34:40which
- 34:40is
- 34:40quite
- 34:40an
- 34:40esoteric
- 34:41sect
- 34:41of
- 34:42the
- 34:42religion,
- 34:42but
- 34:43just
- 34:43because
- 34:44it's
- 34:44kind
- 34:44of
- 34:44a
- 34:45cool
- 34:45thing
- 34:45to
- 34:45do,
- 34:45you
- 34:46know,
- 34:46it's
- 34:46a
- 34:46good
- 34:46way
- 34:46to
- 34:46disconnect.
- 34:47Takes
- 34:48about
- 34:48six
- 34:48to
- 34:48eight
- 34:48weeks,
- 34:49which,
- 34:49granted,
- 34:50is
- 34:50longer
- 34:50than
- 34:51the
- 34:51average
- 34:52traveler
- 34:53is
- 34:53going
- 34:53to
- 34:53have
- 34:53in
- 34:54Japan.
- 34:54Right.
- 34:54But
- 34:55like
- 34:55the
- 34:55Camino,
- 34:56I
- 34:56guess,
- 34:56you
- 34:56know,
- 34:56you
- 34:56can
- 34:56come
- 34:57and
- 34:57do
- 34:58a
- 34:58week
- 34:58here,
- 34:59two
- 34:59weeks
- 34:59there,
- 34:59you
- 35:00know,
- 35:00split
- 35:00it
- 35:00up
- 35:00whatever
- 35:01way
- 35:01you
- 35:01want.
- 35:01Maybe
- 35:02you
- 35:02can
- 35:02just
- 35:02pick,
- 35:03like,
- 35:04oh,
- 35:04here's
- 35:04four
- 35:04temples
- 35:05that
- 35:05are
- 35:05a
- 35:06decent
- 35:06enough
- 35:06distance
- 35:07away
- 35:07from
- 35:07each
- 35:07other.
- 35:07Why
- 35:08don't
- 35:08I
- 35:08just
- 35:08follow
- 35:08that
- 35:09route?
- 35:09You
- 35:09know,
- 35:09there's
- 35:10no.
- 35:10There
- 35:10is
- 35:11a
- 35:11prescribed
- 35:11route
- 35:11you
- 35:11can
- 35:12follow,
- 35:12but,
- 35:12you
- 35:12know,
- 35:12of
- 35:12course
- 35:13you
- 35:13can
- 35:13do
- 35:13it
- 35:13whichever
- 35:14way
- 35:14you
- 35:14please.
- 35:15Like,
- 35:15there
- 35:15are
- 35:15lots
- 35:15of
- 35:16different
- 35:16access
- 35:17points
- 35:17in
- 35:17terms
- 35:17of
- 35:18airports
- 35:18and
- 35:19ferry
- 35:19ports
- 35:20and
- 35:20train
- 35:21stations
- 35:21and
- 35:21things
- 35:22like
- 35:22that.
- 35:22So
- 35:22you're
- 35:22not.
- 35:23You
- 35:23don't
- 35:23have
- 35:24to
- 35:24Start
- 35:24at
- 35:25Temple
- 35:251
- 35:26or
- 35:26Temple
- 35:2688,
- 35:27if
- 35:27that
- 35:27makes
- 35:28sense.
- 35:28And,
- 35:29like,
- 35:29the
- 35:29Camino,
- 35:30do
- 35:30you
- 35:30have
- 35:30people
- 35:30from
- 35:30all
- 35:31over
- 35:31the
- 35:31world
- 35:31doing
- 35:31this?
- 35:32So
- 35:32it's
- 35:32a
- 35:32very
- 35:32social
- 35:33activity?
- 35:34Yeah,
- 35:35very
- 35:35much
- 35:35so.
- 35:35I've
- 35:35never
- 35:36actually
- 35:36walked
- 35:36it
- 35:36myself,
- 35:37but
- 35:37I've.
- 35:37The
- 35:38last
- 35:38time
- 35:38I
- 35:38was
- 35:38in
- 35:38Shikoku,
- 35:39I
- 35:39made
- 35:39a
- 35:39point
- 35:39of
- 35:40driving
- 35:40to
- 35:40as
- 35:40much
- 35:41of
- 35:41it
- 35:41as
- 35:41I
- 35:41could,
- 35:41as
- 35:42I
- 35:42could
- 35:42fit
- 35:42in.
- 35:43And
- 35:43I.
- 35:43I
- 35:44would
- 35:44stop
- 35:44off
- 35:44at
- 35:45various
- 35:45temples
- 35:45and
- 35:46go
- 35:46and
- 35:46sort
- 35:46of
- 35:47accost
- 35:47people
- 35:47and
- 35:48try
- 35:48and
- 35:48ask
- 35:48them
- 35:48questions
- 35:49about
- 35:49why
- 35:49they
- 35:49were
- 35:50doing
- 35:50it.
- 35:50And,
- 35:51yeah,
- 35:51you
- 35:51do.
- 35:51You
- 35:51get
- 35:51people
- 35:52from
- 35:52all
- 35:52over
- 35:52the
- 35:52place.
- 35:52Like,
- 35:53you
- 35:53know,
- 35:53I
- 35:53met
- 35:53an
- 35:53American
- 35:54guy
- 35:54who
- 35:54was.
- 35:55He'd
- 35:56worked
- 35:56in,
- 35:56like,
- 35:56tech
- 35:57for
- 35:57quite
- 35:57a
- 35:57few
- 35:57years
- 35:58and
- 35:58just
- 35:58decided
- 35:59that
- 35:59he
- 35:59wanted
- 35:59to
- 36:00kind
- 36:00of
- 36:01disconnect,
- 36:01I
- 36:01guess,
- 36:02from
- 36:02the
- 36:02world
- 36:02for
- 36:02a
- 36:02little
- 36:03while.
- 36:03So
- 36:04he
- 36:04was
- 36:04doing
- 36:04the
- 36:04full
- 36:04thing.
- 36:05I
- 36:05budgeted
- 36:06about
- 36:06eight
- 36:06weeks
- 36:06for
- 36:07it.
- 36:07And
- 36:08he
- 36:08said,
- 36:08it's
- 36:09amazing,
- 36:09you
- 36:09know,
- 36:09you.
- 36:10You
- 36:10walk
- 36:10along
- 36:11the
- 36:11road
- 36:12and.
- 36:12Because
- 36:13pilgrims
- 36:14often
- 36:14wear
- 36:14the
- 36:15same
- 36:15clothes.
- 36:15They
- 36:15wear
- 36:17conical
- 36:17straw
- 36:18hats
- 36:18and
- 36:18these
- 36:18white
- 36:19kind
- 36:19of
- 36:20garments
- 36:20and
- 36:20have
- 36:20a
- 36:20stick
- 36:21that
- 36:21people
- 36:22will
- 36:22just
- 36:22stop
- 36:22and
- 36:23maybe
- 36:23give
- 36:23you
- 36:23some
- 36:24money,
- 36:24like,
- 36:25just
- 36:25like
- 36:25a
- 36:25couple
- 36:25hundred
- 36:26yen
- 36:26to
- 36:26get
- 36:26a
- 36:26drink
- 36:27at
- 36:27the
- 36:27next
- 36:27vending
- 36:27machine
- 36:28or
- 36:28something,
- 36:28or
- 36:29maybe
- 36:29they'll
- 36:29give
- 36:29you
- 36:30some
- 36:30fresh
- 36:31produce
- 36:31from
- 36:31their
- 36:32farm.
- 36:32But
- 36:32he
- 36:33said
- 36:33that
- 36:34the
- 36:35generosity
- 36:36you
- 36:36see
- 36:36from
- 36:37strangers
- 36:37when
- 36:37you're
- 36:37a
- 36:38pilgrim
- 36:38on
- 36:38that
- 36:38trail
- 36:39is,
- 36:40yeah,
- 36:40kind
- 36:40of
- 36:40amazing.
- 36:41So
- 36:41that's
- 36:42a
- 36:42cool
- 36:42aspect
- 36:42of
- 36:43it.
- 36:43You
- 36:43know,
- 36:43Japanese
- 36:43people
- 36:44are
- 36:44known
- 36:44for
- 36:44being
- 36:45generous
- 36:45and
- 36:46friendly,
- 36:46and
- 36:46I
- 36:47think
- 36:47they.
- 36:47They
- 36:47really
- 36:48respect.
- 36:49On
- 36:49that
- 36:49island,
- 36:50they.
- 36:50They
- 36:50respect
- 36:50the
- 36:51tradition
- 36:51of
- 36:51the
- 36:51Shikoku
- 36:52pilgrimage.
- 36:52So
- 36:53they'll
- 36:53always
- 36:53help
- 36:54people
- 36:54out.
- 36:54And
- 36:54there
- 36:54are
- 36:54inns,
- 36:55you
- 36:55know,
- 36:55and
- 36:57campsites
- 36:57and
- 36:57things.
- 36:57You
- 36:58can
- 36:58stay
- 36:58out.
- 36:58There
- 36:58are
- 36:59some
- 36:59rest
- 37:00stops.
- 37:00I
- 37:00think
- 37:00you
- 37:01can
- 37:01stay
- 37:01in
- 37:01for
- 37:01free.
- 37:02There
- 37:02are
- 37:02temples
- 37:03that
- 37:03will
- 37:03also
- 37:03give
- 37:03free
- 37:04accommodation.
- 37:05Interesting.
- 37:07So
- 37:07it's
- 37:07a
- 37:07whole
- 37:08ecosystem
- 37:09created
- 37:09for
- 37:09the
- 37:10pilgrimage.
- 37:10Yeah.
- 37:11And
- 37:11it's
- 37:11still.
- 37:12It's
- 37:12still
- 37:12not
- 37:12super
- 37:13popular,
- 37:13but
- 37:14it's,
- 37:14I
- 37:14think,
- 37:14becoming
- 37:15popular
- 37:15enough
- 37:16that
- 37:17it's,
- 37:17I
- 37:18guess
- 37:18it's
- 37:18becoming
- 37:18more
- 37:19approachable
- 37:19for
- 37:19non
- 37:20Japanese.
- 37:22Right.
- 37:22Tourists
- 37:22to
- 37:23do.
- 37:23Interesting.
- 37:24Well,
- 37:25as
- 37:25you
- 37:25can
- 37:25see,
- 37:26David
- 37:26is
- 37:26a
- 37:26wealth
- 37:27of
- 37:27information
- 37:28and
- 37:28he
- 37:28poured
- 37:28it
- 37:29all
- 37:29into
- 37:29Fromer's
- 37:30Japan.
- 37:31We
- 37:31are
- 37:31so
- 37:31thrilled
- 37:32with
- 37:32the
- 37:32job
- 37:32you
- 37:33did,
- 37:33David.
- 37:33Thank
- 37:34you
- 37:34so,
- 37:34so
- 37:34much
- 37:35for
- 37:35doing
- 37:35this
- 37:36great
- 37:36book
- 37:36and
- 37:36also
- 37:37for
- 37:37appearing
- 37:37on
- 37:37the
- 37:38Frommer
- 37:38Travel
- 37:38Show.
- 37:39That
- 37:39was
- 37:39great.
- 37:40Thank
- 37:40you
- 37:40very
- 37:40much.
- 37:40And
- 37:41you
- 37:41know,
- 37:41I
- 37:41hope.
- 37:41Well,
- 37:42I
- 37:42hope
- 37:42people
- 37:42buy
- 37:42it,
- 37:42of
- 37:43course,
- 37:43but
- 37:43I
- 37:43hope
- 37:43if
- 37:43they
- 37:44do
- 37:44that
- 37:44they
- 37:45find
- 37:45a
- 37:45lot
- 37:45of
- 37:45value
- 37:46in
- 37:46it.
- 37:46You
- 37:46know,
- 37:46it's.
- 37:47Writing
- 37:47a
- 37:47guidebook
- 37:48is.
- 37:49Is
- 37:49difficult,
- 37:49but
- 37:51it's
- 37:51a
- 37:51labor
- 37:52of
- 37:52love,
- 37:52you
- 37:52know,
- 37:52in
- 37:52a
- 37:53lot
- 37:53of
- 37:53ways.
- 37:53You
- 37:53know,
- 37:53you
- 37:53gotta
- 37:54enjoy
- 37:54doing
- 37:54it.
- 37:54But
- 37:55I
- 37:55think
- 37:55it's
- 37:55turned
- 37:56out
- 37:56well,
- 37:56so
- 37:56I
- 37:56hope
- 37:56people
- 37:57agree.
- 37:57I
- 37:58know
- 37:58it
- 37:58has
- 37:59your
- 38:00editor,
- 38:00Holly,
- 38:01felt.
- 38:01It's
- 38:02one
- 38:02of
- 38:02the
- 38:02best
- 38:02books
- 38:03we
- 38:03have
- 38:03in
- 38:03our
- 38:03series.
- 38:04Oh,
- 38:04that's
- 38:04great.
- 38:05Many
- 38:05thanks
- 38:06to
- 38:06Holly
- 38:06as
- 38:06well.
- 38:07Yeah.
- 38:07All
- 38:08right,
- 38:08that's
- 38:08it
- 38:08for
- 38:08today's
- 38:09show.
- 38:09I
- 38:09thank
- 38:10you
- 38:10so
- 38:10much
- 38:10for
- 38:10listening.
- 38:11If
- 38:11you
- 38:12like
- 38:12the
- 38:12show,
- 38:12be
- 38:13sure
- 38:13to
- 38:13give
- 38:13us
- 38:13a
- 38:13nice
- 38:145
- 38:14star
- 38:14rating.
- 38:15To
- 38:15those
- 38:16who
- 38:16are
- 38:16traveling,
- 38:17may
- 38:17I
- 38:17wish
- 38:17you
- 38:18a
- 38:18hearty
- 38:19bon
- 38:19voyage.
- 38:32Sour
- 38:32candy
- 38:33on
- 38:34the
- 38:34table.
- 38:37Lazy
- 38:37afternoons
- 38:39in
- 38:39your
- 38:39sweatpants
- 38:40Watching
- 38:41table.
- 38:43Well,
- 38:43it
- 38:43feels
- 38:44so
- 38:44far
- 38:45away.
- 38:48All
- 38:48the
- 38:48channels
- 38:50seem
- 38:50the
- 38:50same.
- 38:53Trying
- 38:53to
- 38:54remember
- 38:55all
- 38:55the
- 38:56songs
- 38:56we
- 38:56like
- 38:57to
- 38:57play.
- 38:58Cause
- 38:58those
- 38:58lazy
- 38:59afternoons
- 39:00don't
- 39:00come
- 39:01so
- 39:01frequently
- 39:02these
- 39:02days
- 39:07long
- 39:08And
- 39:08I
- 39:09cannot
- 39:09help
- 39:10but
- 39:10wonder
- 39:11Are
- 39:11you
- 39:12ever
- 39:12coming
- 39:13home?
- 39:14I
- 39:14like
- 39:14you
- 39:15with
- 39:15your
- 39:15sour
- 39:16candy
- 39:16in
- 39:17the
- 39:17boat
- 39:17house
- 39:18on
- 39:18the
- 39:18lake
- 39:19oh,
- 39:19but
- 39:20I
- 39:20hate,
- 39:20I
- 39:21hate,
- 39:21I
- 39:21hate,
- 39:21I
- 39:22hate,
- 39:22I
- 39:22hate,
- 39:23I
- 39:24hate
- 39:24the
- 39:24way
- 39:25it
- 39:25tastes.
- 39:37I
- 39:37can't
- 39:37get
- 39:37you
- 39:38off
- 39:38of
- 39:38my.
- 39:39Mind.
- 39:41Looking
- 39:42out
- 39:42the
- 39:43window
- 39:43where
- 39:44we
- 39:44spend
- 39:44so
- 39:45much
- 39:45of
- 39:45our
- 39:45time.
- 39:47Cause
- 39:48I
- 39:48miss
- 39:48the
- 39:49way
- 39:49it
- 39:49bel.
- 39:52But
- 39:52I
- 39:52guess
- 39:52you
- 39:53can't
- 39:53control
- 39:54those
- 39:54damn
- 39:55cards.
- 39:58Babe,
- 39:58I
- 39:58know
- 39:59the
- 39:59both
- 39:59of
- 39:59us
- 40:00are
- 40:00happy
- 40:01when
- 40:01we're
- 40:01free.
- 40:03But
- 40:03would
- 40:03it
- 40:04be
- 40:04so
- 40:04hard
- 40:05to
- 40:05find
- 40:05your
- 40:06freedom
- 40:06here?
- 40:07With
- 40:07me.