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94. [Oklahoma] The Douglass Family · Bless This Mess: A Southern True Crime Podcast

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of Oklahoma. Richard Barry Douglas was born January nineteen. Not what nay Douglas.
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No, No, hey Douglas. I don't think they you know what,
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Stuy. In current times there might be a nay for Richard, a
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nay name. But back then, you know, those stuff was, that
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stuff was on the d L. So this is all Dick Douglas. Yes,
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Stewart, he's obviously the victim in this. Do you have to start
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already? Jesus Christ? Do you have to start in on? What?
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Have we ever started with the killer's name? We always start with the victim's
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name, you were so anyways, he's looking at me like, oh shit,
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because he's making fun of the victim because he thought it was the killer.
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I guess because he's used not used to us heaven because usually men,
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you know, were always doing the murdering around here. But m Richard Berry
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Douglas, would you like me to continue stut out all that other stuff?
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No. Richard Barry Douglas was born January nineteenth nineteen thirty six to Charles and
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Myrtle Douglas in Norman, Oklahoma. He would that's where ou is do?
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I had an aunt and uncle up there I had Well, that's where I'm
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originally from, Norman, No, Oklahoma. Well, my great aunt and
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uncle were in Norman, Okay. Nobody gives a fuck anyway, mine.
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They're not listening right now. Can we get past the first sentence? All
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right? He would grow up in Anna Darko, Oklahoma. Now Richard had
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a passion for sharing the Word of God and began teaching sermons at the age
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of sixteen. See don't you feel really bad about everything you said? Call
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him Dick Douglas. You shoe have really been. Now in his twenties,
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he would meet Maryland Sue Douglas nay Lacy. There you ghost do nay Lacy.
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Marylyn was born January first, nineteen forty three, to Clarence and Jesse
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Lacy and Shawnee, Oklahoma. Now Marylyn shared Richard's faith, and the pair
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quickly fell in love. They would marry on July eighth, nineteen sixty one,
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in Altus, Oklahoma. Maryland was just eighteen and Richard was twenty five.
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Now Shortly after marrying, they would welcome their first child, Richard Brooks,
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in nineteen sixty three, and four years later a daughter named Leslie.
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Now, after having children, the Douglases loaded up and they headed to Brazil
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to spread the gospel. So they're going on a missionary down there, now,
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they were. They did this missionary for several years, living in a
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town called Bellham. Now, the family had some of their best memories living
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in Brazil. As the children grew older, they decided to return to o'carty,
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Oklahoma, probably mispronouncing that o'carty Oklahoma, to live more traditional lives so
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the kids could go to like a regular high school and things like that.
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But they really did love their time at Brazil because they kind of were living
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in you know, like missionaries. They were living in the wilds. Yeah,
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they weren't living in no resort lifestyle. I've never been a missionary thing.
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Now I've done some missionary work before posession. I'm so messed up.
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Okay, oh man, I'm going to helm Um anyways, So Richard became
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the pastor of Putnam City Baptist Church in Oklahoma City, and Maryland sang in
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the choir each week and stayed at home with the children. Now, Richard
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was a very popular pastor. His his church would pack in the crowds every
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single Sunday. Now, I also worked with prisons at the penitentiary. They
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would uh the prisoners at the at what I said, Okay, he went
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to the penitentiaries and he did all that. He was like a pastor and
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things like that, and spread the word of God to to prisoners at the
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penitentiary. Now they would uh. They were very known as be very giving
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members of the community. They were always looking out for everybody else above themselves.
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And the Douglas says they were doing well in Oklahoma. Brooks was like
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this. The children were as well. He was an athlete playing on the
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football team, and Leslie enjoyed spending time with their mom in the kitchen and
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competing in pageants. On Monday, October fifteenth, nineteen seventy nine, the
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whole family was at their home and o'karkey, is that how you're going to
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say it? I don't know how, I said, o'carchy, okay,
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okarchy, Marilyn and Markey sounds weird. I don't know. Oh, CarKey,
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Oh there's oh, there's my car keys there they are. Oh you're
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wearing carkeys today? Oh jeez. The family was preparing to sit down for
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a meal when they heard the dog's bargain. Leslie went out the front door
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and found a man. She asked him if he needed any help, and
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he said he didn't, in fact need some help. He needed to find
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an address. Leslie went into the house to get the phone book and the
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man entered the home behind her, saying that he also needed to use the
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phone. Now, they didn't know him, but it was not uncommon to
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how strangers showing up at the house. So this goes back to, like
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we said, they're very helpful, giving people in the community. People knew
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they could go to this and they could and overly trust him. Yes,
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they Well, they're trying to follow the word of God Stewart, which you
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would know anything about. But are you talking about missmissionary now? The man
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put the phone book back down and he said that he left the phone number
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that he needed in his pants, the route in the car. So the
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guys driving around with a couple of pairs of pants, I guess. Now
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he returned into the house, he bent down and he pulled a gun out
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from behind his back. He then pointed the gun in Brooks's face and told
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him, you know what this is about. At this point, the family
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knew that this was a robbery, so Brooks handed the man forty three dollars.
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This is what he had in his pocket at the time. I just
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want to add, I don't know if we mentioned it that the sun goes
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by Brooks because remember he had named Richard Brooks. He goes by Brooks because
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his dad's name was Richard. So that's when we're referencing Brooks is the teenager.
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Yes, Now, another man entered the home at this time, and
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he also had a weapon, which was a shotgun. They went through Marylyn's
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purse and they found what they could and there to steal. The two men
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then gathered the family together and one of the men they bound and gagged Richard,
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Marylyn, and Brooks. So the mom, dad, and teenage son.
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Now at this point they hadn't tied up Leslie. So one of the
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men stood over the family pointing a gun at them, and the other man
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went through the house pulling phone lines to make sure they couldn't if someone got
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loose, they couldn't call for help. He also ransacked the home, stealing
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anything of value. Now, when the man returned to the family, he
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had Leslie come with him and asked her to show him where they hid any
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of their value pules. Now, after she walked on the house with him,
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he took her to her room. This is when he then raped Leslie
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and after he was done, the other man raped her as well. Remember
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she's only twelve years old. The family could hear all of this going on
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and Leslie crying and saying no. Now, after they were done being some
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second motherfuckers, they brought Leslie back down with the rest of the family and
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they tied her up as well. They then helped them sell to the hunt.
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Cooked meal that Maryland and Leslie had on the stove. They sat down
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at the table was all prepared for dinner. Yeah, the family had set
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the table, plates, knives, forks, the whole thing for their family
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dinner. They were getting run having these sick fuckers just do all this then
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sit down at their place settings and start to eat the food. And start
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to eat the food. The cat is out of control, guys. Now,
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these guys have been there in the house for about two hours and after
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they ate, they started talking with the family trying to figure out how they
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were going to get out of the house, which get in your car and
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lean I guess now the family, I mean, but how are they going
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to leave with without getting caught? I mean the whole family seeing their faces
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and everything, like what are they what are their plans? Like, what
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are they going to do? Or are they gonna go completely forward and murder
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all these people? Or are they just gonna take their chances or what that
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they won't call the police and let them get a head start, Like,
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oh my god, what's going to shut up? Stuart? You're so annoying.
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Why don't you read Stuart? So the family agreed. The family agreed
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not to call the police for about four hours after the men left, but
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the men started backing out on the deal. I mean, what deal.
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They're the ones that hold all the cards. I know that they're negotiating with
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them and the guy and they thought they had it. They had had it
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said They're like, hey, we'll wait four hours and then we'll call the
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police, giving you guys a head start or whatever. And they're like,
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Okay, that sounds like a good idea. And then the guys are like
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oh wait, maybe that's not so. Yes, they were backing out of
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the deal. They are negotiating with these assholes. So the family's trying to
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negotiate and the assholes are like, you know what, we don't have to
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negotiate about nothing, I guess Stuart. Yes, yes, yes, go
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on, I'm right, thank you. Finally, one of the men went
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out to the car and just started it. The other man, the one
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with the shotgun, had told him before he left, listened for the sound.
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Now this is when the family knew that they were in deep, deep
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and that they probably weren't going to get out of her alive. The man
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walked over and shot Brooks from behind. Then he shot Maryland, then Richard,
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and then Leslie. Now the men left, Brooks was able to move,
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so he crawled over to untie his mother and his father. Now his
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father told him to untie his mother first, and he does and tells her,
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you know, he's tell him, He's like, mom, you're free
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and stuff with that. You can move. She looks up at Brooks and
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then puts her head back down and she died at that moment. That was
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the last thing he saw was her lifting her head up and then her putting
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it down and she was gone. Now Brooks calls Crawls over to Untie his
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dad and tells him that tells his dad, you know mom's mom's dead.
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He then tells his dad that he loves him, and that's when Richard passes
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away as well. So now mom Brooks is again only a teenager. He
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just watched his mom die in front of him, and then the same thing
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with his dad. Now at this point, it's just Brooks and Leslie tied
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up. They're bleeding out in their home with their mom and dad line dead
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beside them. Now, Brooks was shouting into Leslie, not sure what they
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were going to do. Leslie managed to get her for her like the binds
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that were around her free and she runs to the kitchen to get a knife.
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She cuts the rest of Brooks's ties loose that he had around his ankles
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and stuff, and they were able to run up the house and they just
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they weren't even sure where the killers were or anything, because this was they
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didn't lay there after. They as soon as they heard him leave, they
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started moving around trying to get free and everything with this. So these guys
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are not that far off from the house at this point, Yeah, they
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could be style out there in the yard or or whatever. So they get
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into their dad's plymouth duster. They drive to a family friend's home who happened
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to be a doctor. Once inside, Brooks collapsed. The doctor took both
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children in the nearest emergency room, where they went into surgery to repair the
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damage from the gunshot wounds. Brooks had been shot twice in the back.
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One of the bullets nicked his heart and collapsed as lung Laslie had been shot
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twice as well, once in the lower back and once up at the top
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in the center of her back. The bullet had gone through her chest,
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through her back, and then out her chest. While the children fought for
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their lives, the doctor and his son drove out to the Douglas's home to
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see if they could say Richard and Maryland. Now obviously there was no help
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in them, and they found them laying lifeless in the living room. Now
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police were called to the home and after looking at the scene, it looked
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very similar to another robbery that had occurred not too far away in Hennessey,
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Oklahoma. I do know how to pronounce Hennessey. Now, the family at
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this home in Hennessey had only been robbed, and but they were left unharmed.
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They were they were able to give police a very good description of the
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two men, as well as the card that they were driving. Thankfully for
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a police The car that they did drive was unique as in it was a
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yellow Chevy Malibu Malibu with primer spots. I didn't know know they made Chevy
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Malibus back then? Is that car has been around for that long? I
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guess, okay, I don't drive Chevy. Another lineage of the Chevy Malibu.
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Someone out there knows all the lineage of Chevies and specifically the Malibu.
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I'm sure now it because they had those primer spots on it. That's where
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it was very distinct. It wasn't you were gonna you were gonna notice that.
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It's like a car with tattoos. For God's sakes, you're going to
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notice it. So when they got the description of the car, they began
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asking around if anyone recognized it. Now police caught a break when a man
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named Wayne reported that the car had been stolen. He told police that he
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had let two men he worked with on an oil rig borrow it and they
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failed to return it. They visit that oil rig to talk to Wayne,
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and he says, the men quit that morning. They said they needed to
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get They had to get to town because they were afraid the police were looking
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for them over some warrns. So they asked to borrow the car. I
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don'm not sure how Wayne thought this was going to end for him. We
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have to leave town, Wayne, because yeah, they said we have to
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get to town because they have thought the police were had some warrants out for
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him, and so I'm not all sure. Away, Wow, Wayne thought
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that they were going to bring the car back or I mean, depending on
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where, which which um position on the rig he worked, could be the
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level of thinking. Well, back then it was we hired you for your
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we hired you for the from the neck down. If you worked on an
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oil rig, you're out there round about it. Yes, anyway, So
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so he said, so he reports the car stolen. Well, this whole
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thing about the warrants wasn't true at all, but the two men h Steven.
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I mean, I don't know why you would cope with that story.
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You would say, I have warrants. Why would't you just come up with
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some other just a normal story. Why would you come with you have warrants
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if you don't even have warrants, it's a brand. Yeah, like we
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gonna we're gonna run to the local, the local burger joint and get some
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food. And Wayne's like, sure, bring me back up burger and cheeseburger.
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So anyway, so the two men their names were Steven Keith Hatch and
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that he was twenty six, and Glenn Burton Agg who was twenty four.
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They had been rested before in burglary to burglary charges but did not haven't,
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like said, any active warrants, and no one's looking for them or anything.
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So this whole fabricated story was just something that they made up on the
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spot to get Old Wayne to let them barter their car, which Wayne should
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have said no. Frankly, Wayne could have stopped this. Come on,
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Wayne, get it together. Police start tracking down the movements that day and
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after they left the oil rigg they headed into town withdrew all the money that
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they had in the savings account from the bank, which was about a thousand
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dollars, which I feel is like a lot of moneys do back then.
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It's a lot of money. Right now, well, I mean it's a
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lot is it? I mean, am I buy you a cardon at Eggs
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or whatever? Yeah, I'm looking it up right now. Oh, that's
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purchasing power of about four thousand, one hundred and eighty nine dollars. That's
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a lot for two dumbasses that came with the excuse of a warrant. But
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they were working on the oil riggs. Don't if they paid similar to Nell,
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I mean or riggs pay really well. They paid well back then too,
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Yes, they were always paying well now. They then went and purchased
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whiskey and beer from a liquor store. After that, they found someone to
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buy cocaine and speed from. After this, they headed to the first home
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that they had planned to rob out in Hennessee. There they took about another
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thousand dollars, ironically not drinking any Hennessey not drinking any and they also stole
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the shotgun that they used later for the murders. After doing this, they
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headed to the Douglas's home, where things went obviously terribly wrong. Police were
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concerned that the men did not need to go to the Douglas's home that day,
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and they had because they had already had close to two thousand dollars cash,
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a car, and a gun. Yeah, there was no Their concerns
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is like, okay, so they had this, they had this robbery that
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went really really well. They go in, they get their cash, they
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doubled up what they had. They've got drugs, they got alcohol, they
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got guns. Now they got this car. Nobody knows who they are at
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this point that they're you know, looking for them or anything like that.
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Why continue on when you already have enough to get you out of town and
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get you pretty far down the road out of the area. I'm glad you
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asked that, Okay, because police believe that they were so hyped up from
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the first robbery going so well that when you mix the drugs and the alcohol,
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they pretty much thought they were invincible. Yeah, and that high on
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like if everything going right, they're like, Wow, we're really good at
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this. This is so new calling We're gonna do it. We're gonna do
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this all day. I have about five or six places. Yeah, I
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mean, the fucking idiots, Now this is a dangerous combination. And police
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need knew that they needed to find these two fellows before they pulled this shit
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again. Yeah, because now they've already murdered what they believe is for people
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they obviously now have nothing else to lose. I mean, once you do
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that, they've raped a twelve year old, murdered for people like you know,
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they don't know that two of them are still alive. But at that
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point where there's nowhere else to go but continue on this path and try to
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see how long you can make it. Yeah, suicide by cop if you
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do get cornered. So now police started a statewide manhunt for Ache and Hatch,
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and they had a six hour head start on the police, So they
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could be anywhere at this point. Yeah, in Oklahoma, I don't know.
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I mean, Texas is pretty far to drive. You could still be
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in the state six hours in Oklahoma, you could be you could be gone
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the state at this point. Oh yeah, Now all of Oklahoma was on
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high alert. You had two armed and dangerous men on the loose. During
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this time, the community was coming to grips with their beloved pastor and his
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wife being murdered. On October eighteenth, just three days after the home invasion,
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Richard and Maryland were laid to let two rests at Puntingham back this church,
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thousands showed to pay their respect, but two very important people were missing,
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Leslie and Brooks. They were still in ICU, fighting their lives with
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police guarding their rooms. They were afraid Aki and Hatch would come back to
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try and kill the siblings because they were witnesses. I don't understand. I
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didn't really understand. So why would they Maybe the kids said go ahead and
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have the funeral, But you know, why wouldn't you wait and have the
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funeral because some people need that closure, you know, to go to the
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funeral and be able to mourn and do all that stuff. But the two
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kids were left out of this. I don't know if they're completely left out
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of this decision. I'm assuming so because they were an ICU. I don't
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even know if they could talk or anything. I don't know. I don't
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know. Maybe some better research would answer these questions. Shut ups, Stuart,
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maybe you should do some research, assphase. Now, both Brooks and
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thank you. Both Brooks and Leslie were helping the police as much as they
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could, walking them through the events of that night and the descriptions of both
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men. Now, on the afternoon of the funeral, a woman was shopping
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in Fort Smith, Arkansas, and she noticed a yell yelly yelly, yellie.
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I started reading yellow and Chevy as one word a yellow or our daughter
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would say, yello, Chevy Malibu sitting in a motel parking lot. Now
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she had seen reports to be on the lookout for this such a vehicle,
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and she called police because this has been spreads and you know, any of
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the surrounding states are like, hey, these people are crazy. You need
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to be on lookout for this car. So police arrive and they confirm it
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was the car. They asked around and found out that the men had been
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seen walking to a nearby bus station. They also found that the out that
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the men had hired some ladies of the Evenings too, if you will,
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because I'm not getting in the whole debate a belt no, no hookers is
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completely out sex workers versus prostitutes, because I have my own strong feelings about
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it, but I'm not gonna get into it anyways. So we're just gonna
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call them ladies with the Evening. No, We're definitely not gonna go with
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hookers, although you call me a hooker sometimes, so oh, this is
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true. Anyway, So some ladies of the Evening and the women good for
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them were cheering for these ladies, because guess what, they stole a thousand
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dollars from these dumbs. So these women are our heroes at this point.
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So they check with the bus station and found that they had taken a bus
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to Memphis, Tennessee. They're gonna go to Graceland, Yes, to see
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the King. Now, the police they continued to track them in and found
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that they had hitchhike down to South Louisiana looking for work on oil rigs in
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here. Yes, that's why I told you I was confused. I was
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not confused, but had to take a second about where the murders occurred because
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they were everywhere. They they did the full tour of the US, so
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they felt to get any work on any oil rigs down in South Louisiana,
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and so they ended up working at a carnival as carnies like because classic You
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know, is that where the red flags were from last episode? Yes,
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that's where the red flags were. Meanwhile, back in Oklahoma on Halloween,
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Leslie and Brooks were finally released from the hospital and they were moved to a
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secure location. They were still under police guard in case Ak and Hatch came
24:11
back. The two would go through pretty much in unimaginable circumstances because shortly after
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the murders, all of the belongings in their home that they shared with their
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parents was auctioned off to pay their medical bills. They were then separated physically
24:26
because Leslie went off to live with relatives in another town and Brooks stayed with
24:32
church members so he could finish his senior year. Yeah, these were This
24:34
was in the time, so they were in the secure location. And then
24:37
obviously after the the guys were caught. Yes they were caught spoiler lord.
24:44
But yeah, they just I mean, I can't even imagine all there was.
24:47
They even had pictures of them. This garage cell that they just were,
24:52
opened the house up, pulled everything out, and started selling the stuff
24:53
to pay the medical bills for the house. Who the help pulled this off?
24:56
I don't know. I guess the church. I'm questioning why they had
25:00
they weren't they didn't hold off on the funeral until the kids could come.
25:03
I don't know. It's very I don't know. Maybe someone should have researched
25:07
this anyways. Now, while working the Carnie circuit, Akee and Hatch met
25:14
a woman named Virginia Ginger Keith. Her name is Virginia. She went by
25:18
Ginger Keith and she began to hang around with the pair. Now we got
25:22
a new cat. That's a problem. This is Jangles. Jangles. You
25:26
were sitting in the easter basket happy as can be. Yes, I still
25:30
have easter basket stuff. Don't judge me. All right, the cat is
25:36
gone. Now he might still be crying outside the room, but he's gone.
25:40
Um, you know what the thing is, guys, The children aren't
25:44
the problem with this podcast. It's the animals. They're out of control.
25:47
They're well, what happens is once the children go to bed, they they're
25:52
like, okay, we can come, we can we can uh descend from
25:56
our our cat trees in our beds and everything. We were hiding from these
26:00
children so we didn't have to interact with them all day. And so then
26:03
they come down and they're like, okay, where are the big humans at
26:07
that we like to play with. We're full of energy. Now, yeah,
26:08
we're full of energy. Let's do this, and we locked ourselves in
26:11
a room. So then they're like, well, we want to be involved,
26:15
but they suck. So anyways, so they so they meet this ginger
26:18
girl and she starts riding around with them. Well, they end up being
26:21
fired from the carnival after eight got drunk and fired off his shotgun in the
26:25
air. Classy move, I mean, I think that's I felt like back
26:27
in the seventies, that would beard That'd be standard practice at any carnival,
26:33
I would assume. Well, used to do it at my meddle school all
26:36
the time, no problem. So as they hit the road until they were
26:40
almost out of money. Now, once they were at the end of those
26:42
funds, they used the little that they had left to hop on a bus
26:45
to get as far as they could, and this landed them in Lumberton,
26:49
Texas. So now they've been They started in Oklahoma, been to Arkansas and
26:53
Louisiana, and now they're in Texas. So they are just making the the
26:59
full tour. Well they must have been everywhere the carnival as well too,
27:03
So well, yeah, well, I don't know, it's probably a low
27:04
I'm sure assuming it's probably a probably just while they travel the country. Then
27:08
I know they travel, I don't know if they are you sure, were
27:11
you a corny? There's a town outside of Tampa. I believe there's nothing
27:17
but carnis but I don't know if that's how the carnivals work back in the
27:19
seventies. Could they even travel that far with the carnival back then? Oh
27:25
my no, with horse and buggy, I don't know. Could they I
27:29
don't know, stear I'm asking the real questions, the hard hitting questions that
27:33
the listeners expect. Yeah, they want to know about this garage. Hell
27:37
and uh, while the kids weren't out of the hospital before the funeral,
27:44
maybe you should do something, I am. I'm asking questions. I'm asking
27:48
the real questions that the listeners might want to have answers to. Oh my
27:52
god, I hate you. In Lumberton, they had the bus driver dropped
27:56
them off in front of a residential home with some woods behind it. Guess
28:00
back then you could just ask the bus. Nowadays you'd ask the bus driver
28:02
to drop her and be like, fuck, let's go to the bus stop.
28:04
Yeah, going to the bus stop you. I guess back then they
28:07
were a little bit more customer service oriented. Remember they stake and they're like,
28:11
yeah, I want you yeah right there? Yea. What is ginger
28:15
doing to that one guy in the back of the bus. We gotta get
28:17
them. I wonder what Ginger was doing for her transportation anyway. Yeah,
28:23
they never got into the whole relationship of what ginger, Ache and Hatch um
28:30
the whole. I don't know whether there was romance or not romance. I
28:33
don't know what that relationship was. Well, Ginger stayed in the woods while
28:37
Ache and Hatch broke into the home. They waited there until the homeowners arrived.
28:42
It was a man and his friend. They attacked both the men and
28:47
bound them just like they had done what the douglasses. They ransacked the house.
28:51
Then they shot the two men in the back of the head with the
28:53
sawt off shotgun, and then they exited the home, hopped in the homeowner.
29:00
There's doubts in two at Z. And then they grabbed Ginger and headed
29:03
off with a little bit of money they got from the home invasion. Now
29:07
you're driving to two at Ez. You don't know nothing about that. It's
29:11
a sporty little car. I think it's like a two sitter. There might
29:12
have been a little hatchback in the back, but I don't know. I
29:18
don't know where they put Ginger. Ginger probably was willingly sitting on someone's lap.
29:22
Think yes. Anyways, So now they've committed there you're talking about the
29:25
damn car, Stewart, they've committed another set of murder. Stewart, no
29:29
people are they they've committed. They've killed two more innocent people. So now
29:33
their count is up to four on this rampage they've been on. So the
29:38
Lumberton police did not link the murders to the ones in Oklahoma. Obviously,
29:44
this is the seventies and they're not going to be have that kind of And
29:47
plus they changed up the car situation that that car was the thing that was
29:51
connecting everything. That Chevy, that yellow Chevy Malibu with the primer spots was
29:56
the thing connecting. And so now that's gone. This could be any home
30:00
invasion at this point. I mean, this is pretty pretty standard MO to
30:04
tie somebody up and then mardyline. I guess, I don't know. I'm
30:08
not a I don't know. Why are you saying a standard? I feel
30:11
like it's standard iMOS. Dude, if you say some of their murder,
30:18
did you lose your spot? I lost my spot a long time. Okay,
30:22
now police, it is relationship. Maybe police did know that a car
30:29
was missing, so they put a bolo out on the two ADZ. Now
30:33
BOLO stands for be on the lookout caral in case you were wondering. Now,
30:40
the Deadly Trio decided to head out west to California, then ended up
30:44
in Whyoming and they were there looking for wild field work up there. That's
30:48
they're tried and true thing to make money is they follow the oil. They're
30:51
like, okay, we can't we're out of cash. But but and oil
30:55
right back. Then you could walk up and they just hire you on the
30:57
spot. They don't care. They don't look into you, they don't they
31:00
don't even care if they know your real name or not. They're just like,
31:02
here, get to work, get to work, as long as you
31:04
can get out there and do what what we're paying you to do. Yes.
31:10
Now, they were staying in a town huh put a hole in the
31:12
ground. Now, they were staying in a town called bags, Wyoming.
31:18
They were in a bar. Akie got drunk. Oh Akie. He's the
31:22
one that's always causing freaking problems. I think they're all causing problems to well,
31:26
they're specifically the worst one of the group. He causes the sea.
31:32
He's the one that sends his plate back at the restaurant. I ordered this
31:34
medium rare. This is definitely medium. Well, he's the one that fired
31:38
the shotgun and got him fired from the car. Is the wild card,
31:42
isn't he? Yeah? Out of the three wild cards, he's the wild
31:45
one. If there was three village idiots traveling together, he'd be the idiot
31:51
of that group. Yeah. Now, so what he did was he got
31:55
into a fight with Ginger. It was verbal, and then he slapped her
31:59
and laughed. So Ginger got really upset and she started telling the bartender everything
32:05
that they had done. The bartender called the police and they started looking for
32:08
the men, but they were already gone. Now, in November twentieth,
32:14
a little over a month since the Douglases were murdered, an elderly rancher named
32:19
Mike Pondela arrived at the sheriff's department in Craig, Colorado, saying he had
32:23
just been held hostage for several hours. The sheriff had some photos of Ake
32:29
and Hatch from that nationwide bolo and he showed them to Mike, who said
32:32
that those were the guys who held him hostage. Now, they asked Mike
32:36
what happened and how he escaped because he's just showing up at this sheriff's department,
32:39
like, well, what how did you get here? He said that
32:43
the two men broke into his home, and Okay, guys, I'll be
32:45
honest with you, I almost didn't put this in here because I thought,
32:49
well, this is too far. I can't you're like Quentin Tarantino. Yeah,
32:54
I'm like, I actually did not type this in here because I thought
32:58
this is too much for I mean, talk a lot about people being murdered
33:00
and stuff. So they broke into the home and they killed his dog as
33:05
a warning, which I felt was just and it's just not me. Stu
33:09
said that Quentin Tarantino won't kill a dog in his movies because it's like too
33:15
far. Yeah, the guy that made pulp fiction reservoir Dogs. Yeah,
33:20
very violent movies. It was not going to kill not even have a animal
33:24
get hit by a car or something. Yeah. Anyway, So but I
33:28
did put it in there because it is part of the story. But yes,
33:30
it's very upsetting that he did kill the dog. I also just listened
33:35
to a podcast where it was this um. It was called It's called Finding
33:39
the or looking for the Tote Family or something, and it was a story
33:45
I had never heard. But anyways, this the husband killed his family,
33:47
but then he also killed the dog named Breezy, and the reporter kept going,
33:52
I don't know why everyone was so focused on like that he killed the
33:53
dog and it's just something different though. People are like, why why killed
33:58
the dog? You know, it's just anyways, But so he kills the
34:04
dog as a warning to Mike. So Mike, not knowing what to do,
34:07
he decides to be nice to the men and offers them some beer.
34:10
So they drank so much that they passed out, and that was when he
34:14
was able to escape these fuckers. So the sheriff began to put a plan
34:19
together to arrest the men. They believed that they were still at the ranch
34:21
house. They believed that they were armed and heavily so between what they had
34:25
brought with them and what Mike hat in his home. Because Mike's got this
34:30
ranch out there in the middle of Colorado. You know, he's armed to
34:32
the tea out there. He got guns upon guns. Okay, well he
34:37
was Stewart, Sure he's got some raffles. So anyway, so after assembling
34:40
a team the next day, they go to arrest them men. Yes,
34:45
as they approached the home, and the two men jumped out. As they
34:47
approached a home, the two men they jumped out of a window. Well.
34:51
Authorities were able to catch them on foot, and they were arrested and
34:53
finally taken into custody. After this months long robbery and killing spree that they've
35:00
been on, where's Ginger? Ginger? I don't know Ginger should be arrested.
35:05
I don't know what happened to Ginger. Yes, I guess someone probably
35:10
should have researched that would happened to Ginger. The men were brought back to
35:15
Alreno, Oklahoma, where Aki wanted to speak to police about what they had
35:20
done. There's Aki again. On Thanksgiving Day, nineteen seventy nine. Aki
35:24
admits to shooting the Douglases and that he was in charge the whole time.
35:30
He said, Hatch ain't not done this, He ain't had no guts to
35:34
do it. He took a complete blame for both killings in Oklahoma and the
35:39
ones in Texas. He said that Hatch was just going along to get along.
35:45
Aki asked for the death penalty by lethal injection. This is all in
35:50
his interview. Yeah, this is He's just like just give it to him
35:55
shot going off at the carnival two. I'm the I'm the reason and I
36:00
shout the dowg. Yeah. Still what too far? Mek, You went
36:05
too far? Do you not think Ankie's the one that did that? I
36:09
do believe Hatch might just be like, oh my god, what did I
36:13
get myself into. There's always one if the duo, there's always one that's
36:17
in charge, the really crazy one and the one that's just kind of like,
36:21
uh, if I don't do this, he might kill me. Not
36:23
not excusing Hatch. Hatch is a terrible person too. They both deserve to
36:28
die, yes, they do. Now. It seemed to be an open
36:30
and shut case. Police had the man in custody, with evidence on them
36:35
and statements made to the police, but when it came time to plead in
36:40
court, they both pleaded not guilty, so both of them would go to
36:45
trial. You know, this is the of all the damage that they caused
36:49
to all these families and trauma, you know, traumatizing everything. The least
36:53
they could have done, these killers, they could do it, just plead
36:57
guilty and stop putting people through this whole charade of all these trials and everything
37:02
like, yeah, because they're going to drag people through the mud, and
37:07
yeah, I mean over and all. Well, we all know that you
37:10
did it. I mean everyone knows you did it. Why why do this?
37:15
Why revictimize the family by putting him through all this? It's the lowest
37:19
of lows. Now, Hatch went on trial first, and despite Ache saying
37:22
that he did not kill anyone and he was not in charge, it was
37:27
found that Hatch actually picked out the Douglas home and pushed to go on additional
37:30
robbery. So while he wasn't actively killing anyone, he was he actually was
37:36
kind of the person encouraging this behavior. Now, during the trial, Brooks
37:40
and Leslie went on the stand to testify against Hatch. In the end,
37:45
Hatch was found guilty and sentenced to death. Upnext was Achy. Are we
37:49
pronouncing a key or Ache? I think it's Ache. You've been saying Akey,
37:53
You've been saying Aki. Now I just said a key, it's Ache.
37:57
He was very different than Hatch. Ache was very volatile and aggressive.
38:00
He was under heavy security the whole time as they were afraid he might try
38:04
to escape. Now again, Brooks and Leslie testified against Ache. After two
38:08
hours of deliberations. He was found guilty and was sentenced to death. Both
38:13
were taken to McCallister State Prison. But this would not be the end of
38:15
the trials for Hatch an Ache. Now it would not, because in nineteen
38:20
eighty three, the US Supreme Court ruled on a case out of Florida involving
38:23
aggravated circumstances for the death penalty to be allowed. Way to Go Supreme Court
38:30
the way to go. This ruling brought Hat bought Hatch more time. His
38:35
sentence was vacated twice. However, a judge reinstated his death sendant, saying
38:40
that if this case doesn't fit heinous, atrocious and cruel, I don't know
38:45
what would. He said. The crime was wicked and shocklingly cruel, showing
38:50
indifference in the suffering of others. Hatch went back to death row, but
38:54
Akey was filing appeals himself. Now I think that I was trying to he
39:00
searched what the From what I understood, the Supreme Court ruling was that to
39:04
get the death penalty, it needed to be aggravating circumstances. It couldn't just
39:07
be you killed someone. It had to be particularly like they said, heinous
39:13
or something like that, and that's where they were able to get these sentences
39:19
vacated and then have to go back in front of a judge. On November
39:22
seventh, nineteen eighty four, a Key's legal team argued in front of the
39:25
US Supreme Court that he deserved a new trial, and in February of nineteen
39:30
eighty five, they ruled in a Key's favor. Come on Supreme Court.
39:35
The court said that the Constitution requires that a defendant have access to psychiatric examination
39:39
and assistance necessary to prepare an effective defense based on mental condition when sanity at
39:49
the time of the offense is seriously in question. At the time of the
39:52
original trial, the state did not provide a psychiatrist paid for by the state.
39:58
Brooks and Leslie would have to testify again to keep Anky behind bars.
40:02
Yeah, all these all these rulings and stuff like that. I understand we're
40:07
trying to we're following the rule of law and all this stuff like that,
40:10
laws and shit like that, but it never takes into account the victims and
40:16
what they have to go through, you know, having to go and have
40:21
to testify again for this fucker after you thought he was done and dusted off
40:25
to the death penalty. You go now. In February of nineteen eighty six,
40:30
the new trial began, now played not Guilty by Reason of Insanity.
40:36
Brooks and Leslie testified, as well as others who had arrived at the scene
40:39
after the murders. They also played the recordings of the confession back in nineteen
40:44
seventy nine. The defense brought forward three psychiatrists who claimed he was insane on
40:47
the day of the murders and that he did not know right from wrong.
40:52
These psych I, I mean, they're idiots because from what I understood,
40:57
it's very difficult to get not guilty by reason of insanity, very very difficult.
41:04
His his state of mind. He was on drugs and alcohol. That's
41:06
not insane. That's anyways, this could have been back because they've been gone
41:10
through these weird cycles of stupid shit back back in the eighties. I want
41:16
to say it was the repressed memories stuff. And basically what it was was
41:22
psychiatrists were telling these people that if something traumatic happened to them, they could
41:28
be repressing it, and that's what was called the never they never remembered it,
41:31
that it would even happen. Yeah, So then the psychiatrists would like
41:35
lead them into this. It was usually almost like leading the witnesses pretty much,
41:38
and it was usually turned out to be like a sexual assault when they
41:42
were kids from a relative, father, mother or some sort, not saying
41:46
that this can't happen. It was just a big thing, yeah, because
41:51
they tied it into PTSD and the PTSD was causing them to repress this memory
41:54
from whatever. So all these false accusations started happening against family members. And
42:00
then finally with all this crap going like it, it just spread like wildfire
42:05
and then people are, man, we gotta we gotta reevaluate this. And
42:08
then they were like, well, maybe a repressed memories is not a thing.
42:13
Well, repressed memories is a thing. It can be a thing,
42:15
but it's not as it's not as prevalent as they as people were, well
42:21
just started exploding. It started spreading like wildfire. Everybody thought they had repressed
42:24
memories of something happening to them, but they were all wrong, well not
42:29
all of them, I'm sure some wrong obviously, Kara obviously, or someone's
42:34
gonna write and be like I had a repressed memory back in the eighties and
42:37
Stuart's an idiot and you guys sucking, We're gonna cancel you guys. Well,
42:39
if that kind of person is listening and they're that that sensitive, so
42:45
stop jesus, oh my god. Anyway, anyways, and now that we
42:52
have three listeners now instead of ten, let's continue on. Let us do
42:57
yees. So the ci psychia just claimed that he was insane on the day
43:00
of the murders. So Ake played the part of the mentally ill person.
43:05
So instead of this hothead like confidence self that was he was at his first
43:08
trial because he went in like, oh, you know, I'm aggressive,
43:12
I'm like the shit, everything like that. All of a sudden, he's
43:15
got his head hung low, never looks up one time, grew his hair
43:19
out, looked like what a typical mental patient you would see that was drugged
43:23
out, you know, just has their head hang down to the Well.
43:28
It didn't work because in the end, the jury did find him guilty of
43:30
murder, but only sentenced him to life in prison instead of the death penalty.
43:34
Well, you know, another fad that the psychiatrist had way back before
43:37
that was front a lobotomy where they take that ice pec stick it in your
43:40
eye and give you maybe they should have gave him a from the lobotomy to
43:45
effects him, brought the lobotomies back. He could have started a new trend.
43:50
Now, the family and community were shocked by this sentencing because they really
43:53
and everyone can have their feelings about the death penalt and everything. But if
43:57
the family that if the family that that this happened to, would like them
44:02
to have the death penalty, then who am I to tell you that you're
44:07
wrong? You know? What I'm saying is to if the family that this
44:10
happened to would rather them not have the death penalty and would rather them serve
44:14
a life sentence because that's just how they feel about it, who am I
44:17
to tell you this isn't happening, Because if this motherfucker gets paroled for something,
44:22
it could be my family next that gets murdered. So I don't care
44:27
what your wishes are, if you think he ought to be let out or
44:30
whatever. And we just lost the last three Listen, we have heard the
44:32
things about what the it was. Was it The last case we did where
44:37
it was seven years was considered life in prison and the guy was up for
44:39
parole after that because it was only seven years back at the time, he
44:44
was sentenced or whatever. Anyways, now, like when we're telling you in
44:47
the League of Battles, continued and continued and continued. All in all,
44:52
Brooks and Leslie had to tell their story nine times just to keep Achy and
44:58
Hatch in prison, which is a Travis. Yeah, so it was pretty
45:00
much traumatized at each time they did it. They had to go back for
45:04
however many days they had to testify, answer questions from the prosecution, then
45:08
being cross examined, Yeah, by the defense, like the prosecutions your friend
45:13
over there, asking you just to tell the facts, and then defense is
45:15
trying to break holes in all your stories and it's like, we've already told
45:19
this multiple times. These fuckers did this, Like why are we here?
45:21
This is ridiculous. Yeah, and you know at this point they're just some
45:24
sleeves bald defense attorneys like you were twelve, but you were mature. You
45:29
wanted it didn't end. Stewart. I hate these defense attorneys that are all
45:34
like, no, you don't what These motherfuckers didn't were this far. I
45:37
don't think they said that. I don't think they did, but I wouldn't
45:40
put it past these guys to say some shit like that. Because they some
45:44
of these attorneys do get pretty sleazy. Are the ones whenever the guys raped
45:47
the girl and he's like, well, she was she was drinking too much
45:51
though, wasn't she was? She did she really say no? Or well
45:54
it's like that the girl that died and it was really bad. Yeah,
46:00
his defense hit Their defense attorney's like, well, had she lived, it
46:02
wouldn't have been considered sexual assault. Yeah, it's only because she died,
46:07
and it's like what a sleaves ball. Anyway, Basically she was, wouldn't
46:12
she She was? She was very integrated, but the guys raped her.
46:16
She rubbed the back of the car and they raped her. They threw her
46:20
out on the street, and then she got hit by a car because trying
46:23
to cross the street. To be sorry, she got drunk. She was
46:27
three times a legal limit stumbling into the street, someone hit her. The
46:30
guy actually stopped to help her, and they found out that she had been
46:35
raped by the guys and then basically thrown on the street, super super drunk.
46:38
Yeah, they met her at a bar, kept buying her drinks and
46:43
then they tried to make it. And he said that this would have just
46:45
been a consensual sexual act if if she hadn't got hit by the car.
46:51
So yeah, that's how low some of these I understand. We all need
46:54
a defense attorney. And if I was accused of killing Stewart, and I
46:58
definitely probably did it, but to get off, I would really appreciate what.
47:02
Yes, but sometimes they just make your skin crawl. Yes they did.
47:07
Now during this time of going to trials and testifying against these clowns and
47:13
times that she's not in court, Leslie went on to college, graduated with
47:17
a master's degree, and became a teacher and then a principal. She had
47:22
two children of Rome now Brooks. After struggling through college, finally did graduate
47:27
and went on to law school. After graduating, he decided to run for
47:30
the Oklahoma State Senate. His platform was victim victims' rights and he wanted to
47:37
change the system after what he and his sister had gone through. He was
47:42
able to get legislation passed to help protect victims in the legal system. In
47:46
February nineteen ninety five, Brooks went on a tour of the McAllister State Penitentiary,
47:52
where both Aki and Hatch were being held. He decided he wanted to
47:55
speak to Aki Akie agreed. Brooks said he decided to forgive Aki, and
48:01
he said Aki was remorseful and tearing up. I don't give a fuck,
48:06
dude. I know I've never been in the situation, but I'd have a
48:10
real hard time the eye for the eye guy. Now, But they were.
48:15
They did grow up very religious, so I mean I grew up very
48:19
religious as well. But I'm still but you're an eye for an eye.
48:22
I'm still like, let's stab the motherfucker. You're going all Old Testament on
48:24
a mother. Oh, I'm Old Testament for sure, for sure. Now.
48:29
Brooks tried to meet with Hatch after his meeting with Aki, but Hatch
48:31
refused. Piece of shit. Hatch, Well, yeah, the Hatch,
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the supposed, oh, the innocent guy, you didn't kill anybody. He
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was the one that was actually the asshole that wouldn't even give the Brooks guy,
48:44
the um the respect to go and meet him after he asked. He
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wouldn't even go do that anyway. They did attend hatches clemency hearing, where
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Hatch seemed unremorseful and even denied raping Leslie. He was denied clemency and on
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August ninth, nineteen ninety six, with Brooks and Leslie witnessing he was put
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to death in the McAllister State Penitentiary. Yeah, Leslie was more of I
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don't know if she was extreme as us, but she didn't really understand.
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She couldn't be in the headspace of like I forgive these people and stuff like
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that, and it really hurt her. Whenever he wouldn't even at the clemency
49:28
admit that he raped her, he still denied that whole thing. When she's
49:31
sitting right there and knows what happened, and she she just thought that was
49:37
just the lowest to not even admit your wrongdoings at that point in time,
49:42
say you know what, I did this and it was really bad. Oh
49:44
mammy, he called himself. He didn't do it it, He just watched
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the other guy do it, and then he didn't participate. Some people,
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I know, I mean, some people are just why do you always whatever?
49:52
Why you always got to play devil's advocate over that. That's what I
49:54
do until I'm the devil, Oh Jesus now old Hatch. He did not
50:04
make a final statement, but he did leave a note saying that the people
50:07
that judged him were barbaric and evil. Yeah, so it's really ironic that
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he thinks that everyone else's barbaric for judging him when he's the one that did
50:16
all these things. And now I'm starting to believe was the mastermind behind all
50:20
of it, and that Ache was just as he was, the one that
50:23
was Ache was the puppet and because he actually felt, yeah, he seemed
50:29
to feel bad for his re actions. And I mean, I don't care
50:31
if he felt bad or not. I still think he's should die or whatever.
50:35
But anyway, so after three terms in the Senate, Brooks left and
50:39
moved to California, where he met a woman and had two children. Now
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Brooks went on to write and produce a movie called Heaven's Rain in twenty ten,
50:47
starring Aran Manning and Mike Vogel, as well as Brooks and his sister
50:52
Leslie. Now Ache died in prison on April twenty third, twenty eleven,
50:57
of natural causes. Brooks moved to Texas, US, and sadly, in
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May of twenty twenty, he passed away from cancer at the age of fifty
51:04
six. Leslie still alive from what I understand from your research, from my
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research, Steward. But yeah, there's a movie you can watch that they
51:12
made over this, this whole this whole thing that they've gone through. They
51:15
made a whole movie about it that we can we can watch along with what
51:21
was that other movie we were supposed to watch that we watch halfway? I
51:23
got halfway through and got tired and went to bed. Oh about that?
51:27
We started it, like we recorded this podcast. We talked about it,
51:30
and then we decided rant the movie. You rant the movie, watch it,
51:35
which is a bad idea because we record this this at night after our
51:37
children go to sleep, so it's already late. Renting a movie and trying
51:43
to watch it. It's not a good ideat But what was the movie?
51:45
Can? Oh? Yeah? It was about the the y'all need Jesus.
51:51
We did so anyways, but um, all right, do you have a
51:55
y'all need Jesus to speaking of? Well, yes I did. Would you
51:59
like to hear it? Yes? I would? All right? All right.
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The story comes to us from twenty twelve in September. Here's the headline.
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Kent Okay, Florida, not Florida. I'm Jack Sparrow. Drunk woman
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claimed she was a pirate as she hijacked a passenger ferry and floated away from
52:17
police. Florida, a drunk woman claimed she was a pirate as she hijacked
52:25
a passenger ferry and floated away from police while shouting, I'm Jack Sparrow,
52:30
Alison Wheel and fifty one stole the one I gotta get regretted. Go girl,
52:37
you you still live in life at fifty one now? She stole the
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one hundred seat ferry on the river Dark and Devin England, Oh England.
52:46
My yes, I would have never guessed it. I would have never well,
52:51
I had to look it up. My second guess would have been California.
52:54
I was thinking, like Disneyland, Disney World, Jack Sparrow, and
52:58
where do they be? Just you know, I guess Kia Knightling was in
53:01
there, and she's got a British accent. Would you Jack Sparrow of a
53:04
British accent? I don't know what coming up. He was doing a drunk
53:07
accent in that moment. Oh he was. That's just his regular accent though.
53:10
I think you know he's from like Tennessee or whatever. He needs to
53:14
He's like Madonna, he needs to give up the goat, like we get
53:15
it, okay, thank you. Madonna went through her stupid thing with our
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English whatever act. That's what I'm saying. They're from the south like,
53:22
let's like, let's just embrace it, like Reese Witherspoon. Let's not pretend
53:25
where something we're not, I mean, spaken to England. Can one of
53:30
our English listeners UK over there? England, Great Britain or UK or what
53:37
are you? What are your requesting, Stuart? Come get your parents and
53:39
your princess. Oh, come pick him up? Why we're tired of him.
53:44
We don't want him here, Harry and Megan. Oh, well some
53:49
people want him. Who I don't know people anyway, when any royalty over
53:54
here? Now we have the Kardashians, Okay, anyway, Devin or Diva
54:00
or whatever. I'm sure it's Devon and it's in southwest England. It's at
54:06
the name of the town or a person. The river Dart is in Devon,
54:08
England. Okay, I don't think it's de Vaughn. O. Hell
54:14
this, I visited, but I have no idea. I did not.
54:17
I had went to geographically you went to Devon. I did not. But
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what'd you say you visited? I said I visited England. Oh, yes,
54:27
I've been with you, Stuart. Yes, well, I've been one
54:29
more time than you, So suck it, Mitch, You suck it,
54:30
Mitch. Anyway, where was I hundred cedar? I also don't think they're
54:37
princes and princesses anymore. Just fy, I think they were announced your whatever
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of sussexes, your suck ass sucks he's whatever they call them, kind kind
54:50
of contening with my story? Yeah, now is this gonna be like my
54:52
my whole George Jones one that you run. No, we've literally lost all
54:57
that. We had one listener left, and now you just just did it
54:59
in with the whole. Let's get rid of the prince and princess over here.
55:04
Well, evidently they're not real prince and princess anymore. I think they
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think they got rid of all that or whatever because they wanted to be free.
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Can I finish? Yes? Please? She had been drinking lambrining,
55:20
which I have no clue what it is, and eating deadly plant called nightshade
55:24
for two days, Oh nightshade, causing her whose name? She shouted Jack,
55:30
I'm Jack Sparrow and I'm a pirate. After she unmoored the Dark Princess
55:34
passenger ferry, which is a forty five foot vessel who witnessed her yelling this
55:39
with her companion Tristam Locke from the Kingswear Pontoon, and they set up up
55:46
river, up the river the hair. The pair could be heard laughing and
55:51
shouting from the deck what are you gonna do now? And I believe this
55:54
is out of your jurisdiction. We import them into the United States and deport
56:01
the Prince and princess, because I would definitely take these two, these two
56:06
jokers, yes now, wheeling of they sound like a fun paid Pagnanton Devon
56:12
was sent uced to one hundred and twelve days in jail for the in incident,
56:15
which saw the ferry bumping into other boats like a pinball machine and a
56:19
police chase that lasted an hour more than thirty ambulance, Police, Coastguard and
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r n L. I I don't know what that is Royal Navy. I'm
56:29
going they were drafted in during the incident. Torquay Magistrates Court in Devin heard
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this is a little wordy speaking that you continue on? Why yes I do?
56:45
Speaking after the hearing, PC Claire Pearson said, this lady put police,
56:49
ambulance and Coastguard to an awful lot of trouble shout it read this in
56:52
an English accent. Okay. The amount of people called out to recover the
56:59
b and the damage caused to other vessels made it quite an expensive night before
57:05
the duo unmoored de boat Wheelan who is a chronic alcoholic awaiting a liver transplant
57:12
called par You don't get one of those. If you start drinking, you
57:15
get moved off the list. If we've learned anything from Scrubs, it's that
57:20
you cannot drink if you were on the liver transplant list. No, not
57:24
even a little bit a champagne at your daughter's wedding. You cannot say that
57:30
because you will get moved off the list, because there are strict rules as
57:32
to if you're going to get one of these organs. Well, I don't
57:36
know how she's waiting the liver transplant. Well she called paramedicferent rules in the
57:40
UK. We don't know. They might they you know who they should have
57:45
called to get this under control. Black Beard, he's dead. No black
57:50
Beards? Who even got Jack Sparrow and send him off to Davy Jones's lock
57:55
it locker, locker, Jesus, I can't even deal with you, how
58:01
many of those you had. I've just had this whatever the Lambardini is in
58:07
some nightshade, well wheeling. She called paramedics in the early hours of September
58:13
tenth last year, which would be twenty eleven, after fairying. She was
58:17
having a seizure. Paramedics said they found the defendant rambling and obviously drunk,
58:24
while Locke became abusive and pushed over one of the medics. Ambulance technician Peter
58:30
Jordan said he and his colleague awaited in their vehicles a few yards away from
58:36
the fairy for police to arrive. Smart move. As they watched through the
58:42
wing mirror, the fairy started to move, he said, we saw it
58:45
drifting down the estuary. Man, they got all kinds of fancy words.
58:50
Fancy words in this story. I heard a female voice saying that they were
58:54
pirates and they were asking, what are we going to do now? Is
59:00
that it's Stewart? Is this over? Can this? It can be?
59:04
It probably should? Okay, let's be done. Okay, I mean some
59:07
crazy drunk ass bitches stole up, stole up thing, cause some damage to
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call themselves Jack Sparrow and spend one hundred and twelve days in jail, and
59:16
hopefully she sobered up in that time and she's back on the liver transplant list.
59:22
I doubt she's probably dead ten years now. She is married to Prince
59:27
Harry. Damn, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Everything's fine. Anyways,
59:34
Well, I saw the south Park episode, which is like a documentary on
59:37
them. Okay, so that's where I'm coming from. Okay, I mean
59:44
you gotta believe south What south Park episode did you watch? When did you
59:47
watch this? I must have been out of town, mammy. Okay,
59:52
this is what you do when I'm out of town, watch south Park?
59:57
Catch up on south Park? Why are you acting like I don't want to
1:00:00
watch south Park? I love south Park, I love Cartman. Yes,
1:00:07
we can watch the Canadian Prince and Princess episode then Canadian Yes? Oh anyways,
1:00:15
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