Latest / Wired To Hunt Podcast / Ep. 896: Foundations - The Hunting Secret That No One Wants to Hear
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide
- 0:05Speaker 1: to the fundamentals of better deer hunting, presented by first Light,
- 0:09Speaker 1: creating proven versatile hunting apparel for the stand, saddle or blind.
- 0:14Speaker 1: First Light, Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your host
- 0:19Speaker 1: Tony Peterson.
- 0:20Speaker 2: Hey, everyone, welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast,
- 0:23Speaker 2: which is brought to you by first Light. I'm your host,
- 0:25Speaker 2: Tony Peterson, and today's episode is all about why white
- 0:28Speaker 2: tail hunting is kind of like more of a physical
- 0:31Speaker 2: endeavor than a lot of folks believe, and what you
- 0:33Speaker 2: should do about that if you want to be a
- 0:35Speaker 2: better deer hunter.
- 0:40Speaker 1: Brilliant.
- 0:41Speaker 2: Look, I actually really hate doing this to you, Like
- 0:44Speaker 2: I honestly do. I talk a little bit about my workouts,
- 0:47Speaker 2: but I don't think there is anything more off putting
- 0:49Speaker 2: than someone who pushes that fitness narrative NonStop. Now, I
- 0:52Speaker 2: think the guys like Cam Haynes and David Goggin's gonna
- 0:55Speaker 2: pass on it because they are definitely like helping a
- 0:57Speaker 2: lot of people and that is just their role. But
- 1:00Speaker 2: I don't see myself that way for many reasons. But
- 1:02Speaker 2: I do think that getting in shape and staying there
- 1:04Speaker 2: has probably helped me kill more deer than anything else.
- 1:06Speaker 2: And I want to say this before I get going.
- 1:08Speaker 2: Even if you have zero desire to run, or lift weights,
- 1:11Speaker 2: or eat right or anything like this, I still want
- 1:13Speaker 2: you to listen. I think you'll at least have something
- 1:16Speaker 2: to consider by the time I wrap this sucker up.
- 1:22Speaker 2: In the interest of talking about things that almost no
- 1:25Speaker 2: one in this audience is actually interested in, let me
- 1:28Speaker 2: start this one with a shallow dive into the life
- 1:31Speaker 2: of a guy named Aaron Martin's. If you follow tournament
- 1:34Speaker 2: fishing at all, especially for bass, you might know his name,
- 1:39Speaker 2: but if not, you probably don't. Martins was a native
- 1:42Speaker 2: Californian who made a name for himself fishing Castaic Lake
- 1:46Speaker 2: with his mother during some early tournaments. Now he outgrew
- 1:49Speaker 2: those team tourneys with Mama Martins to eventually compete in
- 1:52Speaker 2: regional bass tournaments, and then he made it to the
- 1:55Speaker 2: big leagues, where he fished the Elite Series. His run
- 1:59Speaker 2: from nineteen ninety nine to twenty eighteen rivals the biggest
- 2:03Speaker 2: names in the game, including Kevin Van Dam, who is
- 2:06Speaker 2: considered by many to be the goat. Martin's qualified for
- 2:10Speaker 2: and competed in twenty bass Master Classics, which might not
- 2:14Speaker 2: sound like much to people who don't follow the sport,
- 2:16Speaker 2: but that's like Tom Brady level success. He won nine
- 2:20Speaker 2: bass Master tournaments in his career in states like California
- 2:23Speaker 2: and Alabama, Maryland, Illinois, and even New York, where on
- 2:27Speaker 2: Lake Champlain he made a jump from nineteenth place to
- 2:30Speaker 2: first in the final day of competition, which is a
- 2:33Speaker 2: move that is almost impossible to make at that level,
- 2:36Speaker 2: especially when you're far enough north where you're not going
- 2:39Speaker 2: to stumble into a few fish that all individually could
- 2:42Speaker 2: tip the scales at double digits. He fished a few
- 2:45Speaker 2: other top series and one events in all of them
- 2:47Speaker 2: as well. He was the kind of guy who powerfish
- 2:50Speaker 2: but also just brought the heat when it was time
- 2:53Speaker 2: to downsize and go with finesse presentations. In other words,
- 2:57Speaker 2: he was just about as well rounded as they come.
- 3:00Speaker 2: But unlike a lot of fishermen, and what a lot
- 3:03Speaker 2: of people think about fishermen, he wasn't physically well rounded.
- 3:08Speaker 2: He was lean and fit. That was a joke. In
- 3:12Speaker 2: twenty fifteen, after taking the bass Master Angler of the
- 3:15Speaker 2: Year title, he is quoted in an article about his success,
- 3:18Speaker 2: and how he managed to amass much of it by
- 3:22Speaker 2: simply saying this, I'm not sure I want to share
- 3:25Speaker 2: one of my biggest secrets to my success. I mean,
- 3:28Speaker 2: I've tried to help people before with this stuff, but
- 3:31Speaker 2: they just ignore it. Exercise and diet are my cornerstones
- 3:35Speaker 2: to much of my success. Martin's was a runner with
- 3:38Speaker 2: a goal of thirty miles per week in the off
- 3:40Speaker 2: season and twenty per week when he was fishing. He'd
- 3:44Speaker 2: run after tournaments and during pre fishing days. He'd camp
- 3:48Speaker 2: at tournament locations to control his eating and his sleeping,
- 3:51Speaker 2: and his results speak for themselves. He did everything right,
- 3:55Speaker 2: or at least on paper. He did a whole lot
- 3:57Speaker 2: of stuff you should probably do, but he couldn't escape
- 4:00Speaker 2: the hands of fate. Three and a half years ago,
- 4:03Speaker 2: after a rough battle with brain cancer, he passed away
- 4:07Speaker 2: and left his wife and two children alone in the world.
- 4:10Speaker 2: His mother is still alive as well, and I can't
- 4:12Speaker 2: imagine how much she misses her son and former fishing partner.
- 4:17Speaker 2: Now you can look at his story in one of
- 4:19Speaker 2: two ways. That he milked his forty nine years for
- 4:22Speaker 2: what he could, and he did it in a way
- 4:24Speaker 2: that was disciplined and worthy of a hell of a
- 4:26Speaker 2: lot of admiration, having flown in the lightest of fishing circles.
- 4:31Speaker 2: That's where he is in my mind. But you could
- 4:33Speaker 2: also say, well, what did all that running and eating
- 4:37Speaker 2: right do for him? Considering all it took was some
- 4:40Speaker 2: brain cells to metastasize and set him on a course
- 4:43Speaker 2: that no diet or exercise could compete against. Now, this
- 4:46Speaker 2: is a fairly common sentiment amongst people who don't want
- 4:49Speaker 2: to get in shape. You can always find a story
- 4:52Speaker 2: of the marathon runner who had a major chest graber
- 4:55Speaker 2: at thirty years old and say, well, if that is
- 4:57Speaker 2: an evidence to not exercise, I don't know, oh what is?
- 5:01Speaker 2: But that is a feel good coping mechanism that doesn't
- 5:04Speaker 2: take into account the reality of being unhealthy and the
- 5:08Speaker 2: far more numerous examples of what that can and usually
- 5:12Speaker 2: will lead a person to. So here's the thing, because
- 5:16Speaker 2: I feel the need to say this again, I don't
- 5:18Speaker 2: want to come off as preachy. I'm sick of the
- 5:21Speaker 2: fitness world jamming itself down everyone's throat. But I've also
- 5:25Speaker 2: realized something about my own hunting in my own life,
- 5:28Speaker 2: and that reality is this getting in shape has been
- 5:31Speaker 2: probably the biggest benefactor to my hunting success. That is
- 5:35Speaker 2: no joke. Allow me to explain, from the time I
- 5:38Speaker 2: actually figured out how to kill some deer with a bow,
- 5:41Speaker 2: I've always killed some deer with a bow. Those early years,
- 5:45Speaker 2: I drank like a fiend, and it didn't really matter
- 5:48Speaker 2: because I was young and could look past the hangover
- 5:50Speaker 2: to get up at o dark thirty and sit in
- 5:52Speaker 2: a stand. Actually, I'm sure it did matter, and then
- 5:54Speaker 2: I'm glossing over the times and unhealthy lifestyle cost me
- 5:57Speaker 2: a deer, But for that I'm not going to get
- 5:59Speaker 2: in anyway. Generally, though, I was a functioning alcoholic from
- 6:04Speaker 2: about the time I could drive until I was thirty three.
- 6:07Speaker 2: That's a lot of years of addiction, and I paid
- 6:09Speaker 2: for it my friends. Hell, I'm still paying for it
- 6:12Speaker 2: in ways that I don't really want to get into
- 6:14Speaker 2: on this public platform, because that kind of behavior doesn't
- 6:17Speaker 2: make you a great partner or a great person, and
- 6:20Speaker 2: the people who are closest to you when you're in
- 6:21Speaker 2: that stage often have long memories and a low tolerance
- 6:25Speaker 2: for your bullshit, and I don't blame them, but that's
- 6:28Speaker 2: another story and not what I want to talk about here.
- 6:31Speaker 2: Although I will say this, if you do drink a lot,
- 6:34Speaker 2: like say at deer camp, because that's what a lot
- 6:36Speaker 2: of people do, you're not going to be as good
- 6:38Speaker 2: of a hunter than if you don't remember this too.
- 6:41Speaker 2: I'm a freedom guy. I think you should be able
- 6:44Speaker 2: to shoot heroin between your toes if you want to
- 6:46Speaker 2: and you can handle it. Although I don't recommend it.
- 6:49Speaker 2: Most people don't need to think about this, and I'm
- 6:52Speaker 2: happy for them. I'd also say that being a better
- 6:55Speaker 2: deer hunter is about last on the list of reasons
- 6:57Speaker 2: to quit drinking. If you need to. If you need to,
- 7:00Speaker 2: you should find whatever reason you have to. For me,
- 7:04Speaker 2: quitting was like suddenly becoming a different person, and I
- 7:07Speaker 2: can promise you I became a much better deer hunter
- 7:10Speaker 2: for it. But I also started working out as almost
- 7:13Speaker 2: soon as I quit, because if I hadn't, I highly
- 7:16Speaker 2: doubt i'd have stayed off the sauce. And let me
- 7:19Speaker 2: tell you, if you want to feel like a total
- 7:21Speaker 2: fish out of water, abuse your body for about seventeen years,
- 7:25Speaker 2: convince yourself you're still in relatively good shape, then take
- 7:29Speaker 2: your happy ass to the gym. The first couple of
- 7:32Speaker 2: months is just mental torture, not to mention, of course,
- 7:36Speaker 2: the physical side of things. Seeing people who look amazing
- 7:40Speaker 2: and are confident in a gym setting while you feel
- 7:43Speaker 2: like shit and look well kind of like shit really
- 7:47Speaker 2: really sucks. But the good news is no one is
- 7:51Speaker 2: paying attention to you, and you can just go at
- 7:53Speaker 2: your own pace to get better. And that's what I
- 7:57Speaker 2: told myself to do. But it took a while to
- 8:00Speaker 2: get into the groove, and back then when I did it,
- 8:03Speaker 2: it was just all cardio, mostly because I was terrified
- 8:07Speaker 2: to go into the weight room. When I finally did
- 8:09Speaker 2: venture over there, the first person I met was a
- 8:12Speaker 2: completely jack dude with sleeve tats who is a pretty
- 8:16Speaker 2: good friend of mine. Now, well, that was not something
- 8:19Speaker 2: I saw coming. So what does this have to do
- 8:21Speaker 2: with deer hunting? A little bit of nothing and a
- 8:25Speaker 2: little bit of everything. Deer Hunting is a game of discipline,
- 8:30Speaker 2: and I truly believe that if you can find one
- 8:33Speaker 2: aspect of life where you can be disciplined, you will
- 8:36Speaker 2: naturally find other avenues to take it. It's a mindset
- 8:40Speaker 2: thing that serves a lot of parts of life, but
- 8:43Speaker 2: it's also unnecessary to function in modern society, and that's
- 8:48Speaker 2: the rub a big one. Take the difference between the
- 8:52Speaker 2: perception of the average Western hunter and the perception of
- 8:55Speaker 2: the average whitetail hunter. For example, now the Western hunter,
- 8:59Speaker 2: he's either tall and lean, you know, the kind of
- 9:02Speaker 2: person who can just walk down an elk, or he
- 9:04Speaker 2: short and kind of roid it out, often with a
- 9:07Speaker 2: shaved head, and who looks like he could yeat a
- 9:10Speaker 2: bowl over a two story building. Of course, if you
- 9:13Speaker 2: go Western hunting, you soon realize that there are a
- 9:15Speaker 2: hell of a lot of dudes out there who aren't
- 9:17Speaker 2: going to suddenly get a seven figure contract to model underwear,
- 9:21Speaker 2: and that road hunting is way more of a way
- 9:23Speaker 2: of life out there than you would expect. On the
- 9:36Speaker 2: white tail side, the average perception is one mm not
- 9:41Speaker 2: of peak physical specimen, but maybe someone who enjoys downing
- 9:45Speaker 2: the occasional case amountain dew and a couple boxes of Twinkies,
- 9:50Speaker 2: while generally not spending too much time at the CrossFit gym. Again,
- 9:55Speaker 2: we are talking about whole groups of people here, so
- 9:58Speaker 2: the stereotypes definitely don't just everyone. But the truth is,
- 10:02Speaker 2: when it comes to white tail hunting, being fit isn't
- 10:05Speaker 2: really on the radar for most folks, and that's fine.
- 10:09Speaker 2: A lot of deer are killed in situations where very
- 10:12Speaker 2: very few calories need to be burned. Side by side,
- 10:16Speaker 2: box blinds on food plots, and the general nature of
- 10:19Speaker 2: managing land don't require someone with a six pack who
- 10:22Speaker 2: can run half marathons in well under two hours. But
- 10:26Speaker 2: maybe you don't have a side by side or the
- 10:28Speaker 2: kind of deer spot where you can even use one. Hell,
- 10:32Speaker 2: even if you do, sometimes deer run downhill and pile
- 10:35Speaker 2: up at the bottom of a valley, and those deer
- 10:38Speaker 2: need to get out somehow. And if you want to
- 10:40Speaker 2: get a reality check on your physical fitness, go try
- 10:43Speaker 2: to drag even a small deer uphill for a while.
- 10:46Speaker 2: You'll learn a thing of two about yourself, just like
- 10:48Speaker 2: you do when you walk up on a bowl six
- 10:50Speaker 2: miles deep in the back country. The illusions we have
- 10:54Speaker 2: about ourselves, and the protective layer of fog our egos
- 10:58Speaker 2: off and develop around our brain tends to dissipate pretty
- 11:02Speaker 2: quickly in the face of a lot of dead weight
- 11:04Speaker 2: out in nature. Somewhere. In fact, every year hunters are
- 11:09Speaker 2: found out in the woods, blue in the lips, and
- 11:11Speaker 2: deader than easy credit from the exertion of trying to
- 11:14Speaker 2: drag a deer. How some of them die just from
- 11:17Speaker 2: the excitement of seeing a big buck. What that adrenaline
- 11:21Speaker 2: dump does to their tickers. It's not unlike the phenomenon.
- 11:25Speaker 2: Well maybe that's not the right word, but I'll use
- 11:27Speaker 2: it anyway. Of hotel heart attacks, which is a phrase
- 11:31Speaker 2: used to describe when a man, often a middle aged
- 11:34Speaker 2: man who hasn't seen the inside of a gym in
- 11:36Speaker 2: a few decades, who takes his lady out for anniversary
- 11:41Speaker 2: dinner or maybe Valentine's Day, and he eats a big
- 11:43Speaker 2: old steak dinner, downs a couple of glasses of Scotch,
- 11:47Speaker 2: and head back to the hotel room for a little
- 11:49Speaker 2: bit of uh dessert, only to be cut short on
- 11:53Speaker 2: his amorous ambitions by a heart that just can't take
- 11:57Speaker 2: all that stress. Now, I know I shouldn't be joking
- 12:00Speaker 2: about this stuff, because it is serious shit. If you
- 12:04Speaker 2: want to live a better life and have a hell
- 12:06Speaker 2: of a lot more fun in the woods and in other places,
- 12:09Speaker 2: this is truly the way. And like I said earlier,
- 12:13Speaker 2: if putting a few more one hundred and fifty inchries
- 12:15Speaker 2: on the wall of your man cave as a priority.
- 12:18Speaker 2: Then getting in better shape will help you get there.
- 12:21Speaker 2: So think about it this way. Can you name a
- 12:24Speaker 2: single public land killer who isn't in pretty good shape.
- 12:30Speaker 2: I know a whole bunch of people who just get
- 12:32Speaker 2: it done in places where the hunting is anything but easy,
- 12:35Speaker 2: and they all share that one thing in common, every
- 12:39Speaker 2: single one of them. Now, at this point, you're probably
- 12:42Speaker 2: either agreeing with me or pissed off at me. That's fine,
- 12:46Speaker 2: doesn't make me wrong, but maybe I can soften my
- 12:48Speaker 2: delivery a bit. Look at it another way. Go find
- 12:52Speaker 2: a way to pick up a forty five pound plate
- 12:55Speaker 2: or maybe a forty pound kettlebell, carry it around for
- 12:58Speaker 2: a little bit, and tell me if you're having fun. Now,
- 13:01Speaker 2: imagine carrying that weight around because it's just a part
- 13:04Speaker 2: of your body. Are you likely to saddle up every
- 13:07Speaker 2: time you need to or hike deep enough into the
- 13:10Speaker 2: national forest to leave the competition behind. Probably not. And
- 13:15Speaker 2: maybe you're like, well, I'm carrying around a bit more
- 13:17Speaker 2: weight than I should, but definitely not that much. I
- 13:20Speaker 2: look at it this way. It takes about thirty five
- 13:23Speaker 2: hundred extra calories to gain a pound. If you're carrying
- 13:26Speaker 2: around ten extra pounds. My writer math puts that at
- 13:28Speaker 2: thirty five thousand extra calories, forty extra pounds is one
- 13:33Speaker 2: hundred and forty thousand extra calories. Or to put it
- 13:37Speaker 2: in terms that I can relate to the equivalent of
- 13:40Speaker 2: eating four hundred medium sized Snickers blizzards from dairy Queen.
- 13:45Speaker 2: It's not our metabolism, it's not our family genetics, although
- 13:48Speaker 2: that does affect where we store that poundage. It's just
- 13:51Speaker 2: what's going in versus what we are burning that sucks.
- 13:56Speaker 2: But it's reality. And again, I think getting in shit
- 14:00Speaker 2: ap to shoot more deer is stupid, but getting in
- 14:03Speaker 2: shape will help you shoot more deer. You'll help you
- 14:06Speaker 2: set stands better in the summer, scout more in the winter,
- 14:09Speaker 2: drag them out when you're lucky enough to aarrow one
- 14:13Speaker 2: of them in the back country, and generally increase your
- 14:17Speaker 2: overall enjoyment of the process. You'll want to go more
- 14:21Speaker 2: because you'll feel like it. That's about it. So what
- 14:25Speaker 2: does this mean. It's up to us as individuals. I
- 14:29Speaker 2: know when I started working out, it sucked so much,
- 14:32Speaker 2: and now it's just so much a part of my
- 14:34Speaker 2: life that I'd be lost without it even the running,
- 14:38Speaker 2: which is the only antidepressant I've ever been on that
- 14:41Speaker 2: actually works for me in a way that allows me
- 14:44Speaker 2: to stay creative and keep up with my job. The
- 14:47Speaker 2: whole thing is a baby step process and one that
- 14:50Speaker 2: you should look for a few crutches if you need
- 14:53Speaker 2: it to help you along. Maybe that's a pre workout
- 14:56Speaker 2: that's relatively healthy that just gives you a little jolt
- 14:59Speaker 2: before you at the gym or head out to rock
- 15:01Speaker 2: around the neighborhood. I've been using a product designed to
- 15:04Speaker 2: help college kids focus and study a little more. It's
- 15:08Speaker 2: called Study Max, which is made by a company called Panglossian.
- 15:11Speaker 2: Because it's just got a hell of a lot of
- 15:13Speaker 2: healthy stuff and a little bit of caffeine to get
- 15:15Speaker 2: me going. I actually started to take it when I
- 15:17Speaker 2: had big deadlines to hit with writing and realized it
- 15:20Speaker 2: would probably be a subtle but effective pre workout. And
- 15:23Speaker 2: it's great, but there's a lot of great stuff out there.
- 15:26Speaker 2: You just want to be careful with supplements in general,
- 15:29Speaker 2: just like protein shakes and anything else, but also just
- 15:32Speaker 2: got to find a way to go and if that's it,
- 15:35Speaker 2: use it. Figure out how to listen to really good
- 15:38Speaker 2: podcasts when you do cardio or really good German death metal.
- 15:41Speaker 2: If you're going to head into the gym and pick
- 15:43Speaker 2: up heavy stuff and put it down to write, earbuds
- 15:46Speaker 2: and running shoes go a long way toward facilitating my workouts.
- 15:49Speaker 2: As dumb as that sounds, it's simple, but it helps
- 15:53Speaker 2: find a routine, set a doable, achievable goal. Just like
- 15:58Speaker 2: with deer hunting, you wouldn't start bow hunting on year
- 16:02Speaker 2: one and decide it's two hundred inch bucks or nothing,
- 16:05Speaker 2: because it will be nothing. You don't have to run
- 16:08Speaker 2: a marathon or bench three hundred pounds in the first
- 16:11Speaker 2: few months. Figure out your baseline, which will be embarrassing
- 16:15Speaker 2: as hell, and then set a goal off of that.
- 16:19Speaker 2: It might take you three months to hit a sub
- 16:21Speaker 2: thirty minute five k, but who cares, Just hit it.
- 16:25Speaker 2: It might take you six months to go from curling
- 16:27Speaker 2: twenty pounds to curling thirty five, but who cares. All
- 16:32Speaker 2: of that stuff will make you feel a hell of
- 16:34Speaker 2: a lot better, and when you're hanging and hunting this fall,
- 16:37Speaker 2: you'll feel better. Even then when you get invited to
- 16:40Speaker 2: go hunt Western white tails with one of your buddies
- 16:43Speaker 2: and know you're going to have to pack them out.
- 16:44Speaker 2: If you kill one, you're not going to focus on
- 16:46Speaker 2: the negatives talk yourself out of it. You're going to
- 16:49Speaker 2: want to go and you won't be scared to hunt
- 16:51Speaker 2: where the deer are because if you kill one, you'll
- 16:53Speaker 2: be able to get him out. If focusing on fitness
- 16:57Speaker 2: can help a guy rack up over three million dollars
- 17:00Speaker 2: and winnings while fishing for bass, getting in a little
- 17:03Speaker 2: better shape can help any one of us have more
- 17:06Speaker 2: productive hunts and enjoy them a hell of a lot more. Now,
- 17:09Speaker 2: I know that no one needs to do this to
- 17:11Speaker 2: kill more deer, but everyone who does this will likely
- 17:15Speaker 2: kill more deer. And we're all looking for an edge
- 17:17Speaker 2: in this game because what we're doing is hard. Generally,
- 17:21Speaker 2: the stuff that is going to give you a real
- 17:23Speaker 2: advantage over the long term isn't something you can buy,
- 17:27Speaker 2: but something you can learn to do. Take that for
- 17:31Speaker 2: what it's worth, and I promise you I won't do
- 17:33Speaker 2: any more preachy shit on fitness for a long long time.
- 17:37Speaker 2: So think about it anyway, and think about coming back
- 17:40Speaker 2: next week, because I'm going to talk about the other
- 17:42Speaker 2: deer that we can maybe hunt, but we should pay
- 17:46Speaker 2: attention to because those hunting opportunities are going away. That's it.
- 17:51Speaker 2: I'm Tony Peterson and this has been the Wired to
- 17:54Speaker 2: Hunt Foundations podcast, which is brought to you by First Light.
- 17:58Speaker 2: As I always, thank you so much, thanks for listening
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